October 21, 2025 • 38 mins
This week's edition of the PodKaz from USCHO.com starts with an unusual occurrence: The end of a series split between Minnesota and Ohio State in Minneapolis on Sunday brought game disqualifications and additional suspensions because of a post-buzzer tussle.
Minnesota will be without defenders Gracie Graham and Chloe Primerano for the opener of its series at Minnesota Duluth, while Ohio State's Kassidy Carmichael and Jordyn Petrie will sit out the first game of the Buckeyes' home series against St. Cloud State.
In the East, Quinnipiac improved to 8-0 with a sweep of Northeastern fueled by seven goals by Kahlen Lamarche -- four in a 5-3 win on Friday, three in a 4-2 win Saturday.
Then we discuss a volatile bottom few spots in the USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll, where Boston University held onto a top-15 spot with an 0-5 record. St. Thomas joined the rankings just in time to christen its new arena this week with a series against Providence.
A look at the week ahead includes the WCHA series in which Minnesota and Ohio State will be missing players as well as the start of ECAC play.
The PodKaz is a production of USCHO.com. Have a question for us? Reach out to Nicole (@NicoleHaase) or Todd (@ToddMilewski) on social media or email todd.milewski@uscho.com.
Minnesota will be without defenders Gracie Graham and Chloe Primerano for the opener of its series at Minnesota Duluth, while Ohio State's Kassidy Carmichael and Jordyn Petrie will sit out the first game of the Buckeyes' home series against St. Cloud State.
In the East, Quinnipiac improved to 8-0 with a sweep of Northeastern fueled by seven goals by Kahlen Lamarche -- four in a 5-3 win on Friday, three in a 4-2 win Saturday.
Then we discuss a volatile bottom few spots in the USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll, where Boston University held onto a top-15 spot with an 0-5 record. St. Thomas joined the rankings just in time to christen its new arena this week with a series against Providence.
A look at the week ahead includes the WCHA series in which Minnesota and Ohio State will be missing players as well as the start of ECAC play.
The PodKaz is a production of USCHO.com. Have a question for us? Reach out to Nicole (@NicoleHaase) or Todd (@ToddMilewski) on social media or email todd.milewski@uscho.com.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Uscho dot com. Hi again, Welcome back to the podcast.
Todd Molusky and Nicole Hasey here from a us echo
dot com and Nicole, We've got a seven goal weekend
from Kaylin LaMarsh at Quinnipiac and a great weekend for
the Bobcats to talk about. We've got some upsets over
(00:25):
the weekend. We had a heck of an event Sunday
afternoon in Minneapolis with Ohio State and Minnesota really wrapping
up their series in a kind of unusual way with
a couple of game disqualifications and then some supplemental disci
one happening there, and maybe that's where we should start.
(00:46):
It really was a series that was a lot more
than what happened when it was over. But that's what
we're left talking about, was a couple of suspensions and
then a couple more suspensions added on after some bad
blood came out at the end of the series.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
What's fascinating is that to some extent, this really mirrored
that last series they played last season in Minneapolis, where
each team sort of really dominated one game, right and
there was you know, postgame extracurriculars there too, with a
game misconduct after the whistle and so that one, Ohio
State came out on top. But yeah, it's what's fascinating
(01:26):
to me is how the games are so different. Ohio
State absolutely dominated the first game. I set this over
at Victory Press. But my thought while watching that game was,
I guess, your high flying offense isn't like it doesn't
matter much when you can't get out of your defensive zone.
That's how oppressive Ohio State was. They just manned. Did
they put the pressure on. They really threw Minnesota off
(01:49):
their game, and they were making mistakes and just like
taking away all that time it's space and basically sort
of nullifying any sort of hockey IQ that might be there,
right because you were just they were just so under
pressure the whole time. And Haley mcclob played the spectacular game.
And then we get to Sunday's game and you know,
the extracurriculators aside, like Minnesota came out scored or anyway,
(02:09):
it was a completely different game. Like I don't know
where Ohio State went. I don't know what flipped. I
don't know what I guess. I like, I wish I
knew more in terms of like what what the approaches
were because Ohio State dominated that first game and that
team was not the team that came out and played
on Sunday and Hayley McLeod got pulled after four goals,
and man, it's just so fascinating when two teams, two
(02:30):
really strong teams, kind of come out and play two
completely opposite games in a weekend series.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Right, And that's a little bit of what happens when
you play two games in consecutive days, right. One team gets,
you know, maybe doesn't put out the performance they want
and feels like they've got something to make up for.
And I feel like that was Minnesota on Sunday. So
I would say four to one on Saturday and then
six to three for the Gophers on Sunday as they
just kind of got back to that you know that
(02:58):
we're going to score from from a lot of different people,
sort of mentality that they showed in the first couple
of weeks of the season, and it just kind of
built up to the last couple of minutes of being
there's some some things that carried into that what we
saw after the buzzer And if you haven't seen the
Coles had this on her socials, you can go watch
(03:20):
the video of what happened in the last couple of
minutes of that game. It ends up with what was it,
two game decues and then seven or five I.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Think it was seven. There were nine total penalties.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
So Cassidy Carmichael and Gracie Graham, who had tussled right
before about three seconds ago, leading to some penalties, they
both got sent to the penalty box, tussled again after
the horn, apparently coming out of the box after there
was a an incident at the horn, some cross checking
going on after a face off, and then everything broke
(03:59):
loose and ends up with Carmichael and Graham getting the DQ.
So they are out for their first game this weekend.
It's the automatic one game suspension. But then on Monday,
the WHA also sent over some one game suspensions of
their own from supplemental discipline. For I say it's Jordan
(04:20):
Petrie and Minnesota's Chloye Premurano, so they are also out
for that first game of this week's series. Also, then
some game is conducts which don't take a player out
of their next game, but if they add up your
third game is conduct of the season does add up
to a one game suspension, So not there yet, but
(04:42):
it's something to keep an eye on and keep in
the back of your mind as the season goes on.
We're not that far in here, and there's a lot
of time where things can happen, and game is conducts
also count you know, hitting from behind, if you get
thrown out for that, that's game is conduct that adds
up for that. So a lot of things to watch
for there as we go forward. But this one, the
(05:02):
WA statement you know, that they sent out said the
wh is not support fighting and acts of aggression that
result in player safety concerns and reflect poorly on our league.
And so the reflect poorly on our league part was
kind of what stood out to me as a I
feel like, they don't want this to happen again, so
(05:23):
they're sending a message.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Now, yeah, absolutely it was. I mean, clearly they're sort
of ongoing, you know, I don't want to bad blood
feels like even worse than it needs to be. I mean,
there are two highly competitive teams that beat up on
each other. They're highly competitive players. I think, you know,
it's a very physical league. I think depending on who's
officiating the games, the games can be more or less
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physical and sort of in the bounds of what's supposed
to be allowed. I actually thought the officiating, at least
in the first game was quite good. Like there was
a face off where there was some pushy chovy in
the immediately set both those players to the box. They're like, nope,
we're not doing this, and so it was like that
was a to me. It was like stood out to
(06:07):
after sort of all of the stuff that we've seen
missed that they really were like, we're not letting stuff go.
And so I didn't feel like that game on Sunday
was particularly contentious, more contentious that I expect from either
of those two teams. But yeah, towards the end, it
just kind of sorted to boil over. And there's a
limit to how long videos can be on social media.
(06:28):
Someone was like, well, you didn't post long enough to
show everything and you didn't have audio, and I'm like, friends,
I like, I feel like I was the only when
watching that game because I'm lucky to have the media
access to be ten plus and it was Sunday when
everybody else was watching football, So I just wanted to
share what had happened because a lot of people don't
have that you know, subscription, and so you know, I've
(06:48):
seen a lot of very upset Gopher fans, and yes,
there was a grushion there, but also you all are
not innocent in this ongoing feud. That was not a
a isolated incident that happened there. That was a build
up of a whole lot of other stuff. And so
I think there's a whole lot of everybody sucks here
in this particular instance, and the finger pointing is not
(07:08):
great in that aspect. I just I don't like that's
a Reddit reference. Sorry, that's I wasn't like trying to,
but I just it was an am I the asshole
reddit reference? Anyway? Yeah, I just think that like there's
there's no winners here, and I'm not sure it like
does anybody any favors just in around and go like
you guys are worse than others. Like everybody came out
and not looking great. That's wha statement, as you said,
(07:30):
kind of pointed that out. There was aggression all over
the place, not great. So that face off happened down
you know, to the side of one of the goals,
on the other side of the ice from the penalty boxes.
And so when the final buzzer ring, and the the
reps were paying attention to the sort of pushy chevy
that was coming after the face off. They they didn't
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pay the attention to the two women they had just
put the box for being aggressive with each other. And
so those two came out basically started releasing and so
that was really I think the escalation. And you had
both coaches on the ice, and then the coaches had
words and we did not have a handshake wine and yeah,
that's uh, it's October. So those two teams are gonna
(08:13):
meet at least two more tine times, probably more, and
so yeah, there's just there's a lot of bad blood.
There's a lot of aggression and and I don't know,
I don't I don't know what you know, I don't
know that that's going to like none of this made
any diffused any of that, you know. So that part
is the other The thing that I think will be
interesting now is you've got Minnesota, who already I think
(08:36):
had someone injured, was down to I think eleven forwards
to begin with. So now you're talking about taking another
player away and from Rono is obviously on defense, but yeah,
that is sort of handicapping both these teams as they
head into you know, tough matchups next week, right, And
I thought one of the things that like that run
(08:57):
for me is the we before Wisconsin had got kind
of pulled into some stuff because of the officiating, and
Mark Shohnson basically just said, like you have to you
just have to be able to skate away and go
stand at the face off circle and wait, like you know,
know that you're winning on the scoreboard, and just like
let that go. And that's kind of what I was thinking,
which is all easier said than done and obviously very
what everybody knows you're supposed to do. But yeah, I
(09:19):
think there's a point where where all the players have
to just be able to be like, you know and
go back to the face off circle and move on.
So that's what their coach is going to tell them,
and you can't get pulled into this again. But I'd
imagine that the sort of leash that anybody has is
going to be pretty short from the league. So I
would think that any sort of future aggression between these
(09:40):
two teams are against other teams as well, it's not
going to be looked to bond kindly.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, Minnesota down two D when they play at Minnesota
Duluth this weekend. So not exactly did I say that backwards? Sorry, Well,
it's just that I think you had one forward, one
D and that's unless they move players around. That's that's
too deep for them, and too forwards for Ohio State,
which is already short on forwards this year as they
(10:05):
host Saint Cloud State this coming week. So, uh, that'll
be interesting to see those you know, those line charts
for that. Uh. I believe they both start Friday in
those series this week, and uh yeah, that's uh, you're
gonna get the that'th's gonna get challenged, I guess for
for both of those teams. And it's just.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
A preview of Olympic stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I guess, well, I guess yeah, at least.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
They're already planning to be Yeah. Uh yeah. It's one
of those where I mean, obviously my socials blew up
right like tons of people that that video made its
way around and people were, oh, I love fighting, Oh
let them fight things like that, And I mean moral
of the story is that's not allowed. It's really not
even allowed on the men's side in college, and it's
just it's not good. And so you know, I think
(10:51):
that's whoever the teams were, we'd have to be having
this conversation. And I think just for the good of
the sport and really for the safety of the players,
it can't. It can't happen like it just this is
when we talk about, when you and I talk about
like the officiating and things getting out of control. This
is I think sort of the worst case scenario we
were imagining right as teams getting in fights and teams
(11:12):
like that, that aggression boiling over. And so I think
that that's why, like we hartput some of the officiating
and stuff like, we're worried someone's gonna get hurt. We're
gonna worried it's gonna end up in something like this.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And so so now here we are, yep, a message
sent there by both referees and the league as they
exit that series. But let's let's move out east for
what we had looked ahead to last week as a
series to watch Quinnipiac hosting Northeastern for a couple of
(11:44):
non conference games. Uh and Northeastern you have to say,
had their chances in this series, but it became the
Kaylin Lamar Show. She scored seven goals over the two games,
four of them on Friday, three of them on Saturday,
so back to back half tricks. The really important goals too.
On Friday, the goal ahead goal to make it four
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to three and another goal to make it five to three,
and that ended up being the final after Jules Constantinople
scored a couple of goals for Northeastern to get them
right back in that one, and then LaMarsh scores the
tying in goal ahead goals in the third period and
the goal ahead goal with less than two minutes left
on Saturday as Quinnipiac got a four to two win there,
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and all of a sudden, She's got twelve goals this season.
It's like out of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I think she had fourteen last year. I was just
trying to pull it up, and of course I got
an error message on the website. But yeah, just an
absolute masterclass from her this weekend. I thought too. It
was funny. Emerson Jervis scored the first goal for Quinnipiac
in the last goal and then in the middle and
we just want to say we apologize if you're saying
her name correct. They don't have her name phonetically spelled
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that we could find anywhere, And so I went and
even listened to some of the broadcast highlights that we
were just getting. Last name, so apologize for saying your
first name was wrong, because you definitely deserve all the kudos.
Just an absolute master kept classical performance. I mean, when
you're scoring six in a row, like everybody knows what's
coming and she still sort of did it without being
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stopped and so absolutely the player to watch. Amazing to
me that we sort of talked about like the run
that Abbie Murphy had been on, and here we've got
another player that just absolutely broke out. It has ridiculous
numbers and you know, less than ten games.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
That was a series, as we previewed last week, between
teams that had not lost yet this season. So Quinnipeg
moved to eight to oh their scoring margin is thirty
four to thirteen. Pretty impressive on that and on the
Northeastern side they fall the four and two and it's
you know, it just needed really on Friday, they needed
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a goal to get over because they fell behind I
believe three nothing and then got back in it and
then needed needed to find that extra goal and they
couldn't do it same thing on Saturday. They grabbed the lead,
couldn't hold on to it. That's that's got to I mean,
that's got to be a bit of a blow for
for Northeastern UH to have the chances that they did
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in some games that are probably going to mean something
in the NPI towards the end, UH and and not
being able to get them done.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, absolutely, I think, you know, it's it's a double
edged story. It is still early, they are non conference
games in that way, you know that that doesn't necessarily
hit the same way. But I also think it says
a lot about them that they were able to you know,
sort of cost some of that back, Like they didn't
go down and just completely give up. And so you know,
again I'm always looking for the positives to take from it,
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and I think there are some for them there. But yeah,
they would have wanted the opportunities for Northeastern to play
ranked teams and get you know, points off ranked teams
is just fewer because there are a fewer ranked you know,
Hockey East teams and so so they really like that
was one circle on the calendar for them as a
big deal, and they unfortunately ran into a Quinnipiac team
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that's just absolutely rolling, and I'm not sure. I feel
it's kind of crazy to me. The Quinnipiac is still
ranked seventh in the polls at the moment. I understand
like based on who's ahead of them, it's hard to
move anybody up or around. And but yeah, eight and no,
and they've pretty much sat in those teams, bot in
the poles this whole time. They definitely, I think proved
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another thing this weekend. Like we said last week, we're
talking about sort of them proven that they were the
real deal, and I think they did that again this weekend.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Part of the reason that there's you know, not a
lot of advancement there for Quinnipiac is okay. Penn State's
also right in that mix as an unbeaten team. I
believe they're eight and no now right eight no as well,
they're at the six. Cornell just starting their season started
off at two and zero. People expecting a lot out
of Cornell again this year. And then you've got that
block of WHA teams that has just kind of proven
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that it's going to be in that mix.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
And so right, yeah, and their only losses to are
to each other.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
They're beating each other, right, so it's yeah, it's gonna
be tough to crack that, but I I feel like
in the end, you keep going, you keep with a
just got.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
To keep your head down and keep doing it right.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It's going to show up in the end for you
in in what matters, that being the NPI, and you know,
then your your conference standings really are going to count
a lot towards towards the idea of you know, how
how good of a team you are in the voter's
eyes at the end too.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, I mean we've talked about all the time, you know,
like particularly when we've talked as like maybe Hockey East
about sort of like winning the games you need to win,
like just sort of putting your head down and doing
what you're supposed to do. And that's what Quinip is
doing right now.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yep, let's spin around or the rest of the country.
In Atlantic hockey, Penn State UH solidified its hold on
that the number one spot in the well early in
the stand condensingly. Yeah. Yeah, three nothing and six to
one wins over Mercy Hearst and you know Mercyhurrist being
the team that last season really gave Penn State it's
best challenge. So UH Mercius off to a three and
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five start this season, which is not quite what a
lot of people felt I think like going into this
and and Penn State is really moving out to that
uh getting that gap and in Atlantic hockey that we
have seen occasionally from them.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, and importantly for Penn State, not everything is coming
from or through Testagianiky and so for sort of the
growth of the program and the future of the program,
I think it's really important that we keep seeing from
them that they're they're doing. I mean, they didn't even
play her last week, and then it's not like she
is she's she did not get to get LaMarsh for
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way through the weekend. Everybody else is contributing there, and
so I think that's that's one of the keys for them.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, seven goals allowed in eight games for Penn State.
So that's a positive side for them too that it's uh,
you know, they're playing the style that that they can
pop possession and you know, good defense when you need it.
Also a couple of other upsets that we saw over
the weekend. UH Providence got a two to one win
over Clarkson on Friday before Clarkson rebonded with a three
(18:13):
nothing win on Saturday. Important win there for Providence. Uh,
they're only won so far getting some footing after a
rough start. They're they're one and five and they've been
outscored twenty three to five. So that one like was
a bit of a double take for me. It's to
see that that's how that game turned out on Friday.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It was a wild third period. But what I think
even more than the win for Providence is they took
the lead and then held it for quite a long time,
including killing a five minute major. So I think the
confidence boost of not just like it's not like they
stole the game right like they it was two to
one win, they got their goal ahead goal, and then
they held Clarkson off and they were still it wasn't
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like they just turtled. They were still you know, getting
some shots off and things, and so that was a
wild and fun third period to watch. But also I
think just a really huge and necessary sort of mental
win in addition to the actual win for Providence in
terms of like okay, we can do this, we can
you know, we can play against the top team, we
can hold on to this and really, you know, play
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our game in the face of all that pressure.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, despite that seven minutes of power play time for
Clarkson in the third period shots on goal, we're still
fourteen to eight for Providence. So that that tells you
that they were able to you know, settle it down
a little bit and not not let that spiral away from.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Like superpressive from them. Particularly you know, going into that
that weekend, you're thinking like, ooh, this this could be
a rough matchup, like they just hasn't been how to
start they wanted. I think, you know, sort of any
team doing that well in that situation and this, oh
and fourteen going in and doing it was it was
really fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Maine got a two one win over Colgate on Saturday,
which was we've we've seen some flashes for Maine or
last couple of years, right, and and this maybe I
guess I can't remember all of their their wins, but
it feels like it's one that's up there in terms
of things you can build on and things you can
use as a launching point towards uh where that team
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wants to get to.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, you know, sometimes we talk about like when I'm
like that that that lost wasn't as bad as it looked,
like if you think about the team that lost Wisconsin
five oh five OHO in Madison. But like you and
I both said that we watched them of that and
more like wow, like this is main like really held
them at times and really it was just there were,
(20:38):
like you said, those flashes there of like Okay, I
can see how this can work. And so I was
really impressed that, like in a short period of time,
you're talking a couple of weeks, they did that against
Colgate and so I think, you know, I'm not it's
not just a team can pull in those eas and
what they might pull together. So yeah, that was nothing
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and later number at Colgate and so that to those details,
that's what we're talking about and what we're looking at
and hoping to see in the future from the Dems right.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Boston University's tough start has continued. A lost brown sank
the Terriers to zero to five this season. That's on
the heels of making the NCAA Tournament last season. A
lot of things going in the right direction there and
and this start is is obviously a bit of a
turn in the wrong direction for BU. But for Brown.
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I mean, we've talked about them in the past as
being able to get the occasional victory. That that looks
like it's a well, okay, there, there they go. We
can we can see what what Brown is and what
Brown could be. And I'm not I'm not sure which
which side to put more on here of the will
be used in trouble or hey, maybe there's Brown coming again.
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But I think there's probably something on both sides of
the equation there.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, and Brown went out the next day and beat Merrimack.
It was just a one to win, but you know,
still win. And I think being able to put those
close games it makes me wonder about Brown's ability to
I need them to course some more goals if they're
going to make their way through the East. But yeah,
two oh start is exactly what they need, is a
launch pad, right right.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Saint Lawrence also having a tricky time now, got to
win against r T but then lost four to one
on Friday in that Thursday Friday series. This is a
kind of a really volatile bottom five of the top
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fifteen right now. It feels like where there's there's not
a lot set and stolen there. I mean where we're
seeing the top teams are like okay, there's not a
lot of movement there, and we like we're saying, you,
Quinnipiac at seven can't move up because there's really no
one to pass. But then there's a lot of things
happening at.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
The bottom there really is like you get as someone
who votes in poles, like you're starting to put it
in and you're looking at the weekends, you know, resulting
like okay, well that they lost, like what you know,
who could move up? And then you're like all the
teams below them lost and then you're like, well, okay,
like bu is winless, like they should probably drop out
at this point. And then you look at like the
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other teams receiving votes and they also all lost, and
you're like, well what do I do here? Like what
do you like who gets the Yeah, So it's been
it's been a little fascinating that bottom half of the
fifteenth team pole. It's for sure a tale of two halves, right,
like you have that top half. I think if you
look at the points this week to like the accumulated points,
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there's like a fifty point difference between seven Quidnipiac and
eight is that full gate, like I apologize, So, yeah,
it's it's making the poll each week is certainly has
been challenging, and you know, I think one of the
cool things is that Saint Thomas made their way onto
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the poles for the I think the first time since
they joined the NCAAA, and they're doing it in time
to open their new stadium next week. You pointed out,
so that's pretty cool for them. But yes, I think
you know at five and two they certainly they had
an upset win over Sat Cloud's State this weekend. That
was a fun series that was weirdly chaotic and sort
(24:23):
of like two. It was two four to three over
five wins, one for each team, including sort of ridiculous
overtime goals to end the game. But yeah, so the
polls right now, I think at this point I'm ready
for a few more games to figure this out because
it's every week. I just then go out, yeah up,
who moves down?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
So there's a big get you Like you mentioned there's
a big gap in points between seven and eight, and
then again between Northeastern and twelve and Saint Thomas and Yale,
who are now tied for thirteenth. Northeastern ninety five points
Thomas and Yale at twenty seven. So that's where voters
are seeing the drop off happening. And then it's the
bottom three that it's like, well, okay, who do we
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want to throw in there this week? And Saint Thomas
and Yale both moving into that Yale starting two and
oh after last week, And like you mentioned, Saint Thomas
five and two is an intriguing story out of the
w c h A. We've we've talked about how it's
tough to break into that top four for Saint Cloud. Well,
(25:25):
Saint Thomas is gonna make a run at something. Yeah,
so uh, let's see where that goes. They're gonna have
to beat some some of those top four teams to
make anything happen. But yeah, like you mentioned, a great
timing opening Lee and Penny Anderson Arena this Friday against Providence.
I believe that's a two game series Friday and Saturday.
So yeah, a lot, a lot of good things happening
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at Saint Thomas and something to keep an eye on
going forward for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And just to point out, like the other teams receiving
votes were Mercy Hurst, Saint Lawrence, Minnesota State Princeton, Boston College,
Brown and Providence. And so again you're talking Mercyhurst was swept,
Saint Lawrence has not a great record, you know, like Boston,
these are not what do you look at six teams
there and you're like, so one of those teams should
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move in in their losses over another team that. Let's
It's just it's getting very sticky and weird right now.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
And that's why, I mean, you can look at the
computer rankings right now, but it's I wouldn't recommend it
because it's all meaning. There's not enough in there to
for that to mean anything. So give give, give that.
Put pause on that.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Uh for not, I haven't even pulled it up. I'm like,
it's not.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
There's not enough games in in the formula to really
make any real sense of it. So better to hold
off on that for now. Okay, let's pause there. We'll
take a break. When we come back, we were going
to look ahead at what we have coming up this weekend.
Stay with us on the podcast. Welcome back to the podcast,
(27:08):
Todd and Nicole with you. I wanted to mention one
more result out of last week in the New Ha
the the Assumption Greyhounds with a couple of victories over
l i U last week three two in overtime on Friday,
two to one in overtime on Saturday. I haven't been
able to talk about assumption a lot in a a
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positive way, I guess for for positive results in in
the last a little while here. So a couple of
wins over l i U. Big thing for them. They're
they're right now if you look at the standings, they're
they're leaving New Ha. So uh uh we.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Think those are their first two wins against LU had
only ever gotten a tie. So yeah, big for them. Really,
Like I there were so many upsets it was hard
to fit this into but I like I was tempted
to put it in my list of like, look at
all the upsets we saw this weekend, just because I,
you know, like you said, it's rare that we get
to talk about them this way.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
So gosh, that.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Sounds so but I just I wanted to. I really
wanted to highlight it. I was so excited for them.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Well chance from behind too, ye, yes, chance for upsets again.
This week We've got a few games between ranked teams,
but then also some some teams looking to get their
season moving again. I guess uh in in a positive direction.
Let's start, Uh, let's start with Quinnipiac and Yale so quinnetpack.
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Like we mentioned eight no, Yale just started to and
O feels like, you know, if if, if Quinnipiac wants
to win the ECAC this season, like they're showing that
they can be in that mix. Uh, getting a win
against Yale on opening that of ec A C play
would be big for them.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah, I mean, I think you know, when these the
wins you have to have, I think a because you're
just clearly at the top, you know, of of the
conference right now and in playing your best hockey. And
also you know, you know, Y'll just hit the ice
last week and at this point, quinnipiacs a boulder rolling
down the hill and they just got so much momentum
and so much experience under their belt at this point.
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And I think, like sometimes we talk about that and
I'm not sure how much it matters, but it does
feels particularly important. Quinnipiack probably couldn't be more confident in
their abilities and what they're capable of. And Yale it's
probably still you know, figuring things out a little bit
and so yeah, like you said, it's just really important
to get those conference points, and you know, Yale will
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be looking to prove that they're there's somebody that should
be you know, in the conversation this year. So you know,
anytime you're the top team, you're going to give everybody's
best game, and so it's always going to be a
little bit of a trap for that better team coming in.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, quining Piac then goes to Brown on Saturday. On Friday,
Princeton zat Brown. Prince a couple of close losses to
Yukon last week we mentioned Brown with a couple of
or you know, an impressive start to their season. You
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were you were saying before, this feels like one of
those where, well, well we'll know a little bit more
about these teams by the end, by the end of
this one.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, it feels a little bit of a a you know,
undercover test of like which ones may be the real
deal after with very little information, right, like we just
we don't know yet. And so that we were super
impressed with Brown that first weekend. I thought, you know,
Princeton unranked, Yukon ranked, like they're they're not supposed to
win those games. They were close games. I thought Princeton looked,
you know, pretty good for a team that was hitting
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the ice for the first time and who had you know,
graduated some really good talent, had lost some talent to
the transfer portal. So yeah, I think it's it's a
really good early test. It's funny you were were like,
and then Princeton does. I like, because we've been doing preseason,
a non conference, I had forgotten that we're moving into
ECAC Travel partners. It's like, well, yes, they're not pretty
playing the same team twice an arrow. They caught me
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my surprise for a second into.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
That mix of lug. Oh, that looks like that would
be a good series. No, wait, that's just one one.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
It was just on auto auto pilot.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
There a couple of big ones in the w c
h A, Like we mentioned before, We've got Minnesota at
Minnesota Duluth and Saint Cloud State at Ohio State. Minnesota
and Ohio State both missing a couple of players from suspensions.
H does that open up the door for a potential
upset in those series. I don't know if it would
be a big upset with you know, d Luth getting
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wins win or wins against Minnesota in their home rink,
when you know, the Bulldogs are fourth and the rankings
Gophers the third, but Saint Cloud going into the os
u Ice Arena maybe having an opportunity against a shortened
bench of the Buckeyes.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah, it's a team that they've you know, really pushed
to their limits and really showed that they can play
well with in the past couple of seasons that you know,
of the sort of teams above them in the standings,
I think that's probably the best matchup for Saint Cloud.
And so yeah, when it's already been closed in Saint
Cloud is mailed to, you know, pull some points in
those matchups and the door opened just that little bit more.
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Saint Cloud really has to try and take advantage of that.
What I liked from Saint Cloud this weekend in their
close games was how much they were on a fast
break at times. That game felt like a uh speed
skating match, you know, like it was just there was
so much quick play in that. And so when you're
talking a short bench and a team that likes to
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pressure and that likes put possession, I mean, I don't
I'm not sure you can ever really fatigue a Nady
Mozarell team. But I think that, you know, if they
can really keep Ohio State running with that fast paced
game on a short bench, that could really lead to
some interesting things.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah. I wonder if Minnesota death will be as effective
in I don't know if getting under the skin is
the right way of seeing it, but of being able
to disrupt what Minnesota wants to do offensively and pop
possession wise, as the Louth was against wisponsin for a
lot of the series a couple of weeks ago in Madison.
(33:14):
That seems like if if they can use that as
a strategy and if it, you know, get gets the
Gophers off their game a little bit, that might work
out pretty well. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And the other thing I would say is counterpoint is
that Minnesota State at Ham Minnesota the loof on the
ropes at one point pretty late in one of their
games this weekend, and so you know, like kim Minnesota Duluth,
Kin Minnesota, give that to Minnesota Duluth and sort of counteract.
I feel like it's going to be a bit of
a chess match that way. It was like once Minnesota
Duluth finally was able to score, then they came in bunches,
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but Minnesota State had them really frustrated and steinyed, and
so you know, in terms of like watching tape and
what the Gophers can do back to them, I think
there's going to be some some interesting, uh sort of
coach machinations and planning going into like the hypotheticals of
like what what does this short bench look like and
what the you know, how does that affect things and
all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, we had mentioned before the opening of Lee and
Penny Anderson Arena in Saint Paul, Minnesota for Saint Thomas
against Providence. It's been a long stretch on the road
for Saint Thomas opened the season waiting for their Yeah,
I think they build in a little extra time in
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case the rink wasn't quite ready for the side of
the season, to just make sure they weren't having to
play somewhere else or moving wolve home games. But now
they're here, they're uh St Thomas five and three, having
played I believe all those games on the road. If
if I'm remembering that right or five and two, I'm sorry,
we have the right five and two and five and
(34:52):
two on the road. Yeah, So to do that on
the road to now be able to come back home.
You're going to have a run of home games at
some point here to be able to build home ice.
Uh boy, that that looks like it's in a pretty
good shape now for the Tommies.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, I really think they're they're sort of the team
to keep an eye on right now. Right Like they've
got great coal attending, they've found consistent scoring, they've got momentum,
they've got confidence, they have this rink sort of like
it's just check check check in terms of like what
they sort of needed to go for them. And I
think too, there's just you know, there had been some
negative around the team. There had been just a lot
(35:31):
going on. So like this is this team under this
coach in their own arena, just like deep breath, let
it all out, relax and be you know, be comfortable.
And so I think there's something to be said for that.
And and yeah, you were talking about timeline. If you
sort of the social videos they posted it to the
girls just or the women just saw the arena like
last week, maybe the last ten days, so it's not
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like they've they've been in there this whole time for
anything else. And so yeah, I think there's just there's
a lot that positive for them to build on, and
it's it's cool.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
To see, all right, anything else you're looking forward to
this week?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
That wasn't meant to sister. It was a deep breast
and maybe some sleep and there's just it's a very
busy time for me at the moment. But no, I'm
looking forward to you know, I was lucky to weirdly
we had a brunt of brunch hockey again on Friday,
and so I mean I felt, like I said, and
was able to watch hockey and you know, I was
doing some you know, writing and work and data gathering,
(36:34):
but I got to watch hockey for a lot of
time on Friday and it was really nice to to
just kind of go game after game after game. And oh,
I should shout out to ESPN Plus, who has been
like promoting women's college hockey games on their socials mostly
in the PR but you can also turn go into
ESPN Plus and put in like the multiview, so there's
(36:55):
up to three or four games on one screen and
in a time, and then you can it's kind of
like a red zone where you can just click into
one when when you want to and goodness, I watched
some really ugly feeds. Also it's Catch twenty two, but
it's such a like it's such a huge step forward
and it's just so nice to see that. Like when
(37:16):
I go into ESPN Plus, you know, and again, I
know there's not a ton going on it noon on
a Friday, but like all of the women's college hockey
games are just on the top of the screen, like
it's just like it after some lean times. It's really
nice to see. So it was just a happy thing
for me to like at one point. I mean, I've
talked about I have my multi screens going, but that
I could.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Just do it.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I had the multi screwing on one. It was really nice.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Absolutely, Yeah, it's great to see. It's great to see
that technology being used. I thought it was just because
I watched a lot of hockey games that I'm getting
those up at the top of my feed. Maybe that's
the way the algorithm works. But if it's not, it
it'd be great to have those games promoted the more
and more people who are just like you're saying, flipping
through looking for something to watch it, you know, early
(38:01):
afternoon Fridays.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, I mean you sort of quote unquote more you know,
bigger profile stuff comes the women's talky stuff, who's lower
on the streets. That's why I think it might not
just be the algorithm for me. But yeah, it's still
it's like you said, it's just it's the small things
and I'll take the wins when we get them.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Right, all right. Uh, we hope you enjoy this week's games.
We hope we will have you with us here again
next week. For Nicole on Todd, thanks for listening to
the podcast.
Uscho dot com. Hi again, Welcome back to the podcast.
Todd Molusky and Nicole Hasey here from a us echo
dot com and Nicole, We've got a seven goal weekend
from Kaylin LaMarsh at Quinnipiac and a great weekend for
the Bobcats to talk about. We've got some upsets over
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the weekend. We had a heck of an event Sunday
afternoon in Minneapolis with Ohio State and Minnesota really wrapping
up their series in a kind of unusual way with
a couple of game disqualifications and then some supplemental disci
one happening there, and maybe that's where we should start.
(00:46):
It really was a series that was a lot more
than what happened when it was over. But that's what
we're left talking about, was a couple of suspensions and
then a couple more suspensions added on after some bad
blood came out at the end of the series.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
What's fascinating is that to some extent, this really mirrored
that last series they played last season in Minneapolis, where
each team sort of really dominated one game, right and
there was you know, postgame extracurriculars there too, with a
game misconduct after the whistle and so that one, Ohio
State came out on top. But yeah, it's what's fascinating
(01:26):
to me is how the games are so different. Ohio
State absolutely dominated the first game. I set this over
at Victory Press. But my thought while watching that game was,
I guess, your high flying offense isn't like it doesn't
matter much when you can't get out of your defensive zone.
That's how oppressive Ohio State was. They just manned. Did
they put the pressure on. They really threw Minnesota off
(01:49):
their game, and they were making mistakes and just like
taking away all that time it's space and basically sort
of nullifying any sort of hockey IQ that might be there,
right because you were just they were just so under
pressure the whole time. And Haley mcclob played the spectacular game.
And then we get to Sunday's game and you know,
the extracurriculators aside, like Minnesota came out scored or anyway,
(02:09):
it was a completely different game. Like I don't know
where Ohio State went. I don't know what flipped. I
don't know what I guess. I like, I wish I
knew more in terms of like what what the approaches
were because Ohio State dominated that first game and that
team was not the team that came out and played
on Sunday and Hayley McLeod got pulled after four goals,
and man, it's just so fascinating when two teams, two
(02:30):
really strong teams, kind of come out and play two
completely opposite games in a weekend series.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Right, And that's a little bit of what happens when
you play two games in consecutive days, right. One team gets,
you know, maybe doesn't put out the performance they want
and feels like they've got something to make up for.
And I feel like that was Minnesota on Sunday. So
I would say four to one on Saturday and then
six to three for the Gophers on Sunday as they
just kind of got back to that you know that
(02:58):
we're going to score from from a lot of different people,
sort of mentality that they showed in the first couple
of weeks of the season, and it just kind of
built up to the last couple of minutes of being
there's some some things that carried into that what we
saw after the buzzer And if you haven't seen the
Coles had this on her socials, you can go watch
(03:20):
the video of what happened in the last couple of
minutes of that game. It ends up with what was it,
two game decues and then seven or five I.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Think it was seven. There were nine total penalties.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
So Cassidy Carmichael and Gracie Graham, who had tussled right
before about three seconds ago, leading to some penalties, they
both got sent to the penalty box, tussled again after
the horn, apparently coming out of the box after there
was a an incident at the horn, some cross checking
going on after a face off, and then everything broke
(03:59):
loose and ends up with Carmichael and Graham getting the DQ.
So they are out for their first game this weekend.
It's the automatic one game suspension. But then on Monday,
the WHA also sent over some one game suspensions of
their own from supplemental discipline. For I say it's Jordan
(04:20):
Petrie and Minnesota's Chloye Premurano, so they are also out
for that first game of this week's series. Also, then
some game is conducts which don't take a player out
of their next game, but if they add up your
third game is conduct of the season does add up
to a one game suspension, So not there yet, but
(04:42):
it's something to keep an eye on and keep in
the back of your mind as the season goes on.
We're not that far in here, and there's a lot
of time where things can happen, and game is conducts
also count you know, hitting from behind, if you get
thrown out for that, that's game is conduct that adds
up for that. So a lot of things to watch
for there as we go forward. But this one, the
(05:02):
WA statement you know, that they sent out said the
wh is not support fighting and acts of aggression that
result in player safety concerns and reflect poorly on our league.
And so the reflect poorly on our league part was
kind of what stood out to me as a I
feel like, they don't want this to happen again, so
(05:23):
they're sending a message.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Now, yeah, absolutely it was. I mean, clearly they're sort
of ongoing, you know, I don't want to bad blood
feels like even worse than it needs to be. I mean,
there are two highly competitive teams that beat up on
each other. They're highly competitive players. I think, you know,
it's a very physical league. I think depending on who's
officiating the games, the games can be more or less
(05:47):
physical and sort of in the bounds of what's supposed
to be allowed. I actually thought the officiating, at least
in the first game was quite good. Like there was
a face off where there was some pushy chovy in
the immediately set both those players to the box. They're like, nope,
we're not doing this, and so it was like that
was a to me. It was like stood out to
(06:07):
after sort of all of the stuff that we've seen
missed that they really were like, we're not letting stuff go.
And so I didn't feel like that game on Sunday
was particularly contentious, more contentious that I expect from either
of those two teams. But yeah, towards the end, it
just kind of sorted to boil over. And there's a
limit to how long videos can be on social media.
(06:28):
Someone was like, well, you didn't post long enough to
show everything and you didn't have audio, and I'm like, friends,
I like, I feel like I was the only when
watching that game because I'm lucky to have the media
access to be ten plus and it was Sunday when
everybody else was watching football, So I just wanted to
share what had happened because a lot of people don't
have that you know, subscription, and so you know, I've
(06:48):
seen a lot of very upset Gopher fans, and yes,
there was a grushion there, but also you all are
not innocent in this ongoing feud. That was not a
a isolated incident that happened there. That was a build
up of a whole lot of other stuff. And so
I think there's a whole lot of everybody sucks here
in this particular instance, and the finger pointing is not
(07:08):
great in that aspect. I just I don't like that's
a Reddit reference. Sorry, that's I wasn't like trying to,
but I just it was an am I the asshole
reddit reference? Anyway? Yeah, I just think that like there's
there's no winners here, and I'm not sure it like
does anybody any favors just in around and go like
you guys are worse than others. Like everybody came out
and not looking great. That's wha statement, as you said,
(07:30):
kind of pointed that out. There was aggression all over
the place, not great. So that face off happened down
you know, to the side of one of the goals,
on the other side of the ice from the penalty boxes.
And so when the final buzzer ring, and the the
reps were paying attention to the sort of pushy chevy
that was coming after the face off. They they didn't
(07:52):
pay the attention to the two women they had just
put the box for being aggressive with each other. And
so those two came out basically started releasing and so
that was really I think the escalation. And you had
both coaches on the ice, and then the coaches had
words and we did not have a handshake wine and yeah,
that's uh, it's October. So those two teams are gonna
(08:13):
meet at least two more tine times, probably more, and
so yeah, there's just there's a lot of bad blood.
There's a lot of aggression and and I don't know,
I don't I don't know what you know, I don't
know that that's going to like none of this made
any diffused any of that, you know. So that part
is the other The thing that I think will be
interesting now is you've got Minnesota, who already I think
(08:36):
had someone injured, was down to I think eleven forwards
to begin with. So now you're talking about taking another
player away and from Rono is obviously on defense, but yeah,
that is sort of handicapping both these teams as they
head into you know, tough matchups next week, right, And
I thought one of the things that like that run
(08:57):
for me is the we before Wisconsin had got kind
of pulled into some stuff because of the officiating, and
Mark Shohnson basically just said, like you have to you
just have to be able to skate away and go
stand at the face off circle and wait, like you know,
know that you're winning on the scoreboard, and just like
let that go. And that's kind of what I was thinking,
which is all easier said than done and obviously very
what everybody knows you're supposed to do. But yeah, I
(09:19):
think there's a point where where all the players have
to just be able to be like, you know and
go back to the face off circle and move on.
So that's what their coach is going to tell them,
and you can't get pulled into this again. But I'd
imagine that the sort of leash that anybody has is
going to be pretty short from the league. So I
would think that any sort of future aggression between these
(09:40):
two teams are against other teams as well, it's not
going to be looked to bond kindly.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, Minnesota down two D when they play at Minnesota
Duluth this weekend. So not exactly did I say that backwards? Sorry, Well,
it's just that I think you had one forward, one
D and that's unless they move players around. That's that's
too deep for them, and too forwards for Ohio State,
which is already short on forwards this year as they
(10:05):
host Saint Cloud State this coming week. So, uh, that'll
be interesting to see those you know, those line charts
for that. Uh. I believe they both start Friday in
those series this week, and uh yeah, that's uh, you're
gonna get the that'th's gonna get challenged, I guess for
for both of those teams. And it's just.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
A preview of Olympic stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I guess, well, I guess yeah, at least.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
They're already planning to be Yeah. Uh yeah. It's one
of those where I mean, obviously my socials blew up
right like tons of people that that video made its
way around and people were, oh, I love fighting, Oh
let them fight things like that, And I mean moral
of the story is that's not allowed. It's really not
even allowed on the men's side in college, and it's
just it's not good. And so you know, I think
(10:51):
that's whoever the teams were, we'd have to be having
this conversation. And I think just for the good of
the sport and really for the safety of the players,
it can't. It can't happen like it just this is
when we talk about, when you and I talk about
like the officiating and things getting out of control. This
is I think sort of the worst case scenario we
were imagining right as teams getting in fights and teams
(11:12):
like that, that aggression boiling over. And so I think
that that's why, like we hartput some of the officiating
and stuff like, we're worried someone's gonna get hurt. We're
gonna worried it's gonna end up in something like this.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And so so now here we are, yep, a message
sent there by both referees and the league as they
exit that series. But let's let's move out east for
what we had looked ahead to last week as a
series to watch Quinnipiac hosting Northeastern for a couple of
(11:44):
non conference games. Uh and Northeastern you have to say,
had their chances in this series, but it became the
Kaylin Lamar Show. She scored seven goals over the two games,
four of them on Friday, three of them on Saturday,
so back to back half tricks. The really important goals too.
On Friday, the goal ahead goal to make it four
(12:07):
to three and another goal to make it five to three,
and that ended up being the final after Jules Constantinople
scored a couple of goals for Northeastern to get them
right back in that one, and then LaMarsh scores the
tying in goal ahead goals in the third period and
the goal ahead goal with less than two minutes left
on Saturday as Quinnipiac got a four to two win there,
(12:29):
and all of a sudden, She's got twelve goals this season.
It's like out of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I think she had fourteen last year. I was just
trying to pull it up, and of course I got
an error message on the website. But yeah, just an
absolute masterclass from her this weekend. I thought too. It
was funny. Emerson Jervis scored the first goal for Quinnipiac
in the last goal and then in the middle and
we just want to say we apologize if you're saying
her name correct. They don't have her name phonetically spelled
(12:53):
that we could find anywhere, And so I went and
even listened to some of the broadcast highlights that we
were just getting. Last name, so apologize for saying your
first name was wrong, because you definitely deserve all the kudos.
Just an absolute master kept classical performance. I mean, when
you're scoring six in a row, like everybody knows what's
coming and she still sort of did it without being
(13:15):
stopped and so absolutely the player to watch. Amazing to
me that we sort of talked about like the run
that Abbie Murphy had been on, and here we've got
another player that just absolutely broke out. It has ridiculous
numbers and you know, less than ten games.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
That was a series, as we previewed last week, between
teams that had not lost yet this season. So Quinnipeg
moved to eight to oh their scoring margin is thirty
four to thirteen. Pretty impressive on that and on the
Northeastern side they fall the four and two and it's
you know, it just needed really on Friday, they needed
(13:52):
a goal to get over because they fell behind I
believe three nothing and then got back in it and
then needed needed to find that extra goal and they
couldn't do it same thing on Saturday. They grabbed the lead,
couldn't hold on to it. That's that's got to I mean,
that's got to be a bit of a blow for
for Northeastern UH to have the chances that they did
(14:15):
in some games that are probably going to mean something
in the NPI towards the end, UH and and not
being able to get them done.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, absolutely, I think, you know, it's it's a double
edged story. It is still early, they are non conference
games in that way, you know that that doesn't necessarily
hit the same way. But I also think it says
a lot about them that they were able to you know,
sort of cost some of that back, Like they didn't
go down and just completely give up. And so you know,
again I'm always looking for the positives to take from it,
(14:43):
and I think there are some for them there. But yeah,
they would have wanted the opportunities for Northeastern to play
ranked teams and get you know, points off ranked teams
is just fewer because there are a fewer ranked you know,
Hockey East teams and so so they really like that
was one circle on the calendar for them as a
big deal, and they unfortunately ran into a Quinnipiac team
(15:03):
that's just absolutely rolling, and I'm not sure. I feel
it's kind of crazy to me. The Quinnipiac is still
ranked seventh in the polls at the moment. I understand
like based on who's ahead of them, it's hard to
move anybody up or around. And but yeah, eight and no,
and they've pretty much sat in those teams, bot in
the poles this whole time. They definitely, I think proved
(15:24):
another thing this weekend. Like we said last week, we're
talking about sort of them proven that they were the
real deal, and I think they did that again this weekend.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Part of the reason that there's you know, not a
lot of advancement there for Quinnipiac is okay. Penn State's
also right in that mix as an unbeaten team. I
believe they're eight and no now right eight no as well,
they're at the six. Cornell just starting their season started
off at two and zero. People expecting a lot out
of Cornell again this year. And then you've got that
block of WHA teams that has just kind of proven
(15:54):
that it's going to be in that mix.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
And so right, yeah, and their only losses to are
to each other.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
They're beating each other, right, so it's yeah, it's gonna
be tough to crack that, but I I feel like
in the end, you keep going, you keep with a
just got.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
To keep your head down and keep doing it right.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It's going to show up in the end for you
in in what matters, that being the NPI, and you know,
then your your conference standings really are going to count
a lot towards towards the idea of you know, how
how good of a team you are in the voter's
eyes at the end too.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, I mean we've talked about all the time, you know,
like particularly when we've talked as like maybe Hockey East
about sort of like winning the games you need to win,
like just sort of putting your head down and doing
what you're supposed to do. And that's what Quinip is
doing right now.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yep, let's spin around or the rest of the country.
In Atlantic hockey, Penn State UH solidified its hold on
that the number one spot in the well early in
the stand condensingly. Yeah. Yeah, three nothing and six to
one wins over Mercy Hearst and you know Mercyhurrist being
the team that last season really gave Penn State it's
best challenge. So UH Mercius off to a three and
(17:03):
five start this season, which is not quite what a
lot of people felt I think like going into this
and and Penn State is really moving out to that
uh getting that gap and in Atlantic hockey that we
have seen occasionally from them.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, and importantly for Penn State, not everything is coming
from or through Testagianiky and so for sort of the
growth of the program and the future of the program,
I think it's really important that we keep seeing from
them that they're they're doing. I mean, they didn't even
play her last week, and then it's not like she
is she's she did not get to get LaMarsh for
(17:44):
way through the weekend. Everybody else is contributing there, and
so I think that's that's one of the keys for them.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, seven goals allowed in eight games for Penn State.
So that's a positive side for them too that it's uh,
you know, they're playing the style that that they can
pop possession and you know, good defense when you need it.
Also a couple of other upsets that we saw over
the weekend. UH Providence got a two to one win
over Clarkson on Friday before Clarkson rebonded with a three
(18:13):
nothing win on Saturday. Important win there for Providence. Uh,
they're only won so far getting some footing after a
rough start. They're they're one and five and they've been
outscored twenty three to five. So that one like was
a bit of a double take for me. It's to
see that that's how that game turned out on Friday.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It was a wild third period. But what I think
even more than the win for Providence is they took
the lead and then held it for quite a long time,
including killing a five minute major. So I think the
confidence boost of not just like it's not like they
stole the game right like they it was two to
one win, they got their goal ahead goal, and then
they held Clarkson off and they were still it wasn't
(18:58):
like they just turtled. They were still you know, getting
some shots off and things, and so that was a
wild and fun third period to watch. But also I
think just a really huge and necessary sort of mental
win in addition to the actual win for Providence in
terms of like okay, we can do this, we can
you know, we can play against the top team, we
can hold on to this and really, you know, play
(19:18):
our game in the face of all that pressure.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, despite that seven minutes of power play time for
Clarkson in the third period shots on goal, we're still
fourteen to eight for Providence. So that that tells you
that they were able to you know, settle it down
a little bit and not not let that spiral away from.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Like superpressive from them. Particularly you know, going into that
that weekend, you're thinking like, ooh, this this could be
a rough matchup, like they just hasn't been how to
start they wanted. I think, you know, sort of any
team doing that well in that situation and this, oh
and fourteen going in and doing it was it was
really fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Maine got a two one win over Colgate on Saturday,
which was we've we've seen some flashes for Maine or
last couple of years, right, and and this maybe I
guess I can't remember all of their their wins, but
it feels like it's one that's up there in terms
of things you can build on and things you can
use as a launching point towards uh where that team
(20:16):
wants to get to.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, you know, sometimes we talk about like when I'm
like that that that lost wasn't as bad as it looked,
like if you think about the team that lost Wisconsin
five oh five OHO in Madison. But like you and
I both said that we watched them of that and
more like wow, like this is main like really held
them at times and really it was just there were,
(20:38):
like you said, those flashes there of like Okay, I
can see how this can work. And so I was
really impressed that, like in a short period of time,
you're talking a couple of weeks, they did that against
Colgate and so I think, you know, I'm not it's
not just a team can pull in those eas and
what they might pull together. So yeah, that was nothing
(21:01):
and later number at Colgate and so that to those details,
that's what we're talking about and what we're looking at
and hoping to see in the future from the Dems right.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Boston University's tough start has continued. A lost brown sank
the Terriers to zero to five this season. That's on
the heels of making the NCAA Tournament last season. A
lot of things going in the right direction there and
and this start is is obviously a bit of a
turn in the wrong direction for BU. But for Brown.
(21:33):
I mean, we've talked about them in the past as
being able to get the occasional victory. That that looks
like it's a well, okay, there, there they go. We
can we can see what what Brown is and what
Brown could be. And I'm not I'm not sure which
which side to put more on here of the will
be used in trouble or hey, maybe there's Brown coming again.
(21:56):
But I think there's probably something on both sides of
the equation there.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, and Brown went out the next day and beat Merrimack.
It was just a one to win, but you know,
still win. And I think being able to put those
close games it makes me wonder about Brown's ability to
I need them to course some more goals if they're
going to make their way through the East. But yeah,
two oh start is exactly what they need, is a
launch pad, right right.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Saint Lawrence also having a tricky time now, got to
win against r T but then lost four to one
on Friday in that Thursday Friday series. This is a
kind of a really volatile bottom five of the top
(22:41):
fifteen right now. It feels like where there's there's not
a lot set and stolen there. I mean where we're
seeing the top teams are like okay, there's not a
lot of movement there, and we like we're saying, you,
Quinnipiac at seven can't move up because there's really no
one to pass. But then there's a lot of things
happening at.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
The bottom there really is like you get as someone
who votes in poles, like you're starting to put it
in and you're looking at the weekends, you know, resulting
like okay, well that they lost, like what you know,
who could move up? And then you're like all the
teams below them lost and then you're like, well, okay,
like bu is winless, like they should probably drop out
at this point. And then you look at like the
(23:19):
other teams receiving votes and they also all lost, and
you're like, well what do I do here? Like what
do you like who gets the Yeah, So it's been
it's been a little fascinating that bottom half of the
fifteenth team pole. It's for sure a tale of two halves, right,
like you have that top half. I think if you
look at the points this week to like the accumulated points,
(23:41):
there's like a fifty point difference between seven Quidnipiac and
eight is that full gate, like I apologize, So, yeah,
it's it's making the poll each week is certainly has
been challenging, and you know, I think one of the
cool things is that Saint Thomas made their way onto
(24:03):
the poles for the I think the first time since
they joined the NCAAA, and they're doing it in time
to open their new stadium next week. You pointed out,
so that's pretty cool for them. But yes, I think
you know at five and two they certainly they had
an upset win over Sat Cloud's State this weekend. That
was a fun series that was weirdly chaotic and sort
(24:23):
of like two. It was two four to three over
five wins, one for each team, including sort of ridiculous
overtime goals to end the game. But yeah, so the
polls right now, I think at this point I'm ready
for a few more games to figure this out because
it's every week. I just then go out, yeah up,
who moves down?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
So there's a big get you Like you mentioned there's
a big gap in points between seven and eight, and
then again between Northeastern and twelve and Saint Thomas and Yale,
who are now tied for thirteenth. Northeastern ninety five points
Thomas and Yale at twenty seven. So that's where voters
are seeing the drop off happening. And then it's the
bottom three that it's like, well, okay, who do we
(25:02):
want to throw in there this week? And Saint Thomas
and Yale both moving into that Yale starting two and
oh after last week, And like you mentioned, Saint Thomas
five and two is an intriguing story out of the
w c h A. We've we've talked about how it's
tough to break into that top four for Saint Cloud. Well,
(25:25):
Saint Thomas is gonna make a run at something. Yeah,
so uh, let's see where that goes. They're gonna have
to beat some some of those top four teams to
make anything happen. But yeah, like you mentioned, a great
timing opening Lee and Penny Anderson Arena this Friday against Providence.
I believe that's a two game series Friday and Saturday.
So yeah, a lot, a lot of good things happening
(25:46):
at Saint Thomas and something to keep an eye on
going forward for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And just to point out, like the other teams receiving
votes were Mercy Hurst, Saint Lawrence, Minnesota State Princeton, Boston College,
Brown and Providence. And so again you're talking Mercyhurst was swept,
Saint Lawrence has not a great record, you know, like Boston,
these are not what do you look at six teams
there and you're like, so one of those teams should
(26:12):
move in in their losses over another team that. Let's
It's just it's getting very sticky and weird right now.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
And that's why, I mean, you can look at the
computer rankings right now, but it's I wouldn't recommend it
because it's all meaning. There's not enough in there to
for that to mean anything. So give give, give that.
Put pause on that.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Uh for not, I haven't even pulled it up. I'm like,
it's not.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
There's not enough games in in the formula to really
make any real sense of it. So better to hold
off on that for now. Okay, let's pause there. We'll
take a break. When we come back, we were going
to look ahead at what we have coming up this weekend.
Stay with us on the podcast. Welcome back to the podcast,
(27:08):
Todd and Nicole with you. I wanted to mention one
more result out of last week in the New Ha
the the Assumption Greyhounds with a couple of victories over
l i U last week three two in overtime on Friday,
two to one in overtime on Saturday. I haven't been
able to talk about assumption a lot in a a
(27:29):
positive way, I guess for for positive results in in
the last a little while here. So a couple of
wins over l i U. Big thing for them. They're
they're right now if you look at the standings, they're
they're leaving New Ha. So uh uh we.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Think those are their first two wins against LU had
only ever gotten a tie. So yeah, big for them. Really,
Like I there were so many upsets it was hard
to fit this into but I like I was tempted
to put it in my list of like, look at
all the upsets we saw this weekend, just because I,
you know, like you said, it's rare that we get
to talk about them this way.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
So gosh, that.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Sounds so but I just I wanted to. I really
wanted to highlight it. I was so excited for them.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Well chance from behind too, ye, yes, chance for upsets again.
This week We've got a few games between ranked teams,
but then also some some teams looking to get their
season moving again. I guess uh in in a positive direction.
Let's start, Uh, let's start with Quinnipiac and Yale so quinnetpack.
(28:34):
Like we mentioned eight no, Yale just started to and
O feels like, you know, if if, if Quinnipiac wants
to win the ECAC this season, like they're showing that
they can be in that mix. Uh, getting a win
against Yale on opening that of ec A C play
would be big for them.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah, I mean, I think you know, when these the
wins you have to have, I think a because you're
just clearly at the top, you know, of of the
conference right now and in playing your best hockey. And
also you know, you know, Y'll just hit the ice
last week and at this point, quinnipiacs a boulder rolling
down the hill and they just got so much momentum
and so much experience under their belt at this point.
(29:18):
And I think, like sometimes we talk about that and
I'm not sure how much it matters, but it does
feels particularly important. Quinnipiack probably couldn't be more confident in
their abilities and what they're capable of. And Yale it's
probably still you know, figuring things out a little bit
and so yeah, like you said, it's just really important
to get those conference points, and you know, Yale will
(29:39):
be looking to prove that they're there's somebody that should
be you know, in the conversation this year. So you know,
anytime you're the top team, you're going to give everybody's
best game, and so it's always going to be a
little bit of a trap for that better team coming in.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, quining Piac then goes to Brown on Saturday. On Friday,
Princeton zat Brown. Prince a couple of close losses to
Yukon last week we mentioned Brown with a couple of
or you know, an impressive start to their season. You
(30:13):
were you were saying before, this feels like one of
those where, well, well we'll know a little bit more
about these teams by the end, by the end of
this one.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, it feels a little bit of a a you know,
undercover test of like which ones may be the real
deal after with very little information, right, like we just
we don't know yet. And so that we were super
impressed with Brown that first weekend. I thought, you know,
Princeton unranked, Yukon ranked, like they're they're not supposed to
win those games. They were close games. I thought Princeton looked,
you know, pretty good for a team that was hitting
(30:42):
the ice for the first time and who had you know,
graduated some really good talent, had lost some talent to
the transfer portal. So yeah, I think it's it's a
really good early test. It's funny you were were like,
and then Princeton does. I like, because we've been doing preseason,
a non conference, I had forgotten that we're moving into
ECAC Travel partners. It's like, well, yes, they're not pretty
playing the same team twice an arrow. They caught me
(31:05):
my surprise for a second into.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
That mix of lug. Oh, that looks like that would
be a good series. No, wait, that's just one one.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
It was just on auto auto pilot.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
There a couple of big ones in the w c
h A, Like we mentioned before, We've got Minnesota at
Minnesota Duluth and Saint Cloud State at Ohio State. Minnesota
and Ohio State both missing a couple of players from suspensions.
H does that open up the door for a potential
upset in those series. I don't know if it would
be a big upset with you know, d Luth getting
(31:36):
wins win or wins against Minnesota in their home rink,
when you know, the Bulldogs are fourth and the rankings
Gophers the third, but Saint Cloud going into the os
u Ice Arena maybe having an opportunity against a shortened
bench of the Buckeyes.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah, it's a team that they've you know, really pushed
to their limits and really showed that they can play
well with in the past couple of seasons that you know,
of the sort of teams above them in the standings,
I think that's probably the best matchup for Saint Cloud.
And so yeah, when it's already been closed in Saint
Cloud is mailed to, you know, pull some points in
those matchups and the door opened just that little bit more.
(32:16):
Saint Cloud really has to try and take advantage of that.
What I liked from Saint Cloud this weekend in their
close games was how much they were on a fast
break at times. That game felt like a uh speed
skating match, you know, like it was just there was
so much quick play in that. And so when you're
talking a short bench and a team that likes to
(32:37):
pressure and that likes put possession, I mean, I don't
I'm not sure you can ever really fatigue a Nady
Mozarell team. But I think that, you know, if they
can really keep Ohio State running with that fast paced
game on a short bench, that could really lead to
some interesting things.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah. I wonder if Minnesota death will be as effective
in I don't know if getting under the skin is
the right way of seeing it, but of being able
to disrupt what Minnesota wants to do offensively and pop
possession wise, as the Louth was against wisponsin for a
lot of the series a couple of weeks ago in Madison.
(33:14):
That seems like if if they can use that as
a strategy and if it, you know, get gets the
Gophers off their game a little bit, that might work
out pretty well. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And the other thing I would say is counterpoint is
that Minnesota State at Ham Minnesota the loof on the
ropes at one point pretty late in one of their
games this weekend, and so you know, like kim Minnesota Duluth,
Kin Minnesota, give that to Minnesota Duluth and sort of counteract.
I feel like it's going to be a bit of
a chess match that way. It was like once Minnesota
Duluth finally was able to score, then they came in bunches,
(33:48):
but Minnesota State had them really frustrated and steinyed, and
so you know, in terms of like watching tape and
what the Gophers can do back to them, I think
there's going to be some some interesting, uh sort of
coach machinations and planning going into like the hypotheticals of
like what what does this short bench look like and
what the you know, how does that affect things and
all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, we had mentioned before the opening of Lee and
Penny Anderson Arena in Saint Paul, Minnesota for Saint Thomas
against Providence. It's been a long stretch on the road
for Saint Thomas opened the season waiting for their Yeah,
I think they build in a little extra time in
(34:31):
case the rink wasn't quite ready for the side of
the season, to just make sure they weren't having to
play somewhere else or moving wolve home games. But now
they're here, they're uh St Thomas five and three, having
played I believe all those games on the road. If
if I'm remembering that right or five and two, I'm sorry,
we have the right five and two and five and
(34:52):
two on the road. Yeah, So to do that on
the road to now be able to come back home.
You're going to have a run of home games at
some point here to be able to build home ice.
Uh boy, that that looks like it's in a pretty
good shape now for the Tommies.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, I really think they're they're sort of the team
to keep an eye on right now. Right Like they've
got great coal attending, they've found consistent scoring, they've got momentum,
they've got confidence, they have this rink sort of like
it's just check check check in terms of like what
they sort of needed to go for them. And I
think too, there's just you know, there had been some
negative around the team. There had been just a lot
(35:31):
going on. So like this is this team under this
coach in their own arena, just like deep breath, let
it all out, relax and be you know, be comfortable.
And so I think there's something to be said for that.
And and yeah, you were talking about timeline. If you
sort of the social videos they posted it to the
girls just or the women just saw the arena like
last week, maybe the last ten days, so it's not
(35:54):
like they've they've been in there this whole time for
anything else. And so yeah, I think there's just there's
a lot that positive for them to build on, and
it's it's cool.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
To see, all right, anything else you're looking forward to
this week?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
That wasn't meant to sister. It was a deep breast
and maybe some sleep and there's just it's a very
busy time for me at the moment. But no, I'm
looking forward to you know, I was lucky to weirdly
we had a brunt of brunch hockey again on Friday,
and so I mean I felt, like I said, and
was able to watch hockey and you know, I was
doing some you know, writing and work and data gathering,
(36:34):
but I got to watch hockey for a lot of
time on Friday and it was really nice to to
just kind of go game after game after game. And oh,
I should shout out to ESPN Plus, who has been
like promoting women's college hockey games on their socials mostly
in the PR but you can also turn go into
ESPN Plus and put in like the multiview, so there's
(36:55):
up to three or four games on one screen and
in a time, and then you can it's kind of
like a red zone where you can just click into
one when when you want to and goodness, I watched
some really ugly feeds. Also it's Catch twenty two, but
it's such a like it's such a huge step forward
and it's just so nice to see that. Like when
(37:16):
I go into ESPN Plus, you know, and again, I
know there's not a ton going on it noon on
a Friday, but like all of the women's college hockey
games are just on the top of the screen, like
it's just like it after some lean times. It's really
nice to see. So it was just a happy thing
for me to like at one point. I mean, I've
talked about I have my multi screens going, but that
I could.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Just do it.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I had the multi screwing on one. It was really nice.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Absolutely, Yeah, it's great to see. It's great to see
that technology being used. I thought it was just because
I watched a lot of hockey games that I'm getting
those up at the top of my feed. Maybe that's
the way the algorithm works. But if it's not, it
it'd be great to have those games promoted the more
and more people who are just like you're saying, flipping
through looking for something to watch it, you know, early
(38:01):
afternoon Fridays.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, I mean you sort of quote unquote more you know,
bigger profile stuff comes the women's talky stuff, who's lower
on the streets. That's why I think it might not
just be the algorithm for me. But yeah, it's still
it's like you said, it's just it's the small things
and I'll take the wins when we get them.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Right, all right. Uh, we hope you enjoy this week's games.
We hope we will have you with us here again
next week. For Nicole on Todd, thanks for listening to
the podcast.
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