Thanksgiving trophies awarded, Princeton's 25-goal week and Ohio State's Makenna Webster stops by

The Dec. 5, 2024, episode of the PodKaz takes a look at a week in which Princeton outscored opponents 25-2 over three games, with Issy Wunder capping it off with a five-goal performance. Other results last weekend included Clarkson and Yale winning Thanksgiving weekend tournaments and Brown winning the Mayor's Cup.

Ohio State forward Makenna Webster joins the show to talk about the challenges in playing both ice hockey and field hockey for the Buckeyes.

And we wrap up the show with a look ahead to a series between Minnesota Duluth and St. Cloud State plus other matchups to watch.

The PodKaz is a production of USCHO.com. Have a question for our mailbag? Reach out to Nicole (@NicoleHaase) or Todd (@ToddMilewski) on social media or email [e-mail].

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Usccho dot Com. Hi everyone, Welcome back to the podcast.
Todd Mluski here along with Nicole Hosey with us cho
dot COM's weekly look at NCAA Women's hockey and probably
all things women's hockey. But right now, looking at the

(00:24):
winding up of the first half of the NCAA season,
we've got an interview coming with McKenna Webster from Ohose
State two sports star McKenna Webster, we should say from
Ohio State, but Nicole. First of off, Hello Princeton. Last week,
Princeton outscored opponents and three games twenty five to two

(00:45):
to move up to number two in the country goals
per game at five point two to three, right behind
Wisconsin five point nine to four. Princeton's just outside the
top fifteen in the usacho dot Com pole. Not to
mention that one of those wins last week was eight
to one at number thirteen Boston University and a midweek game.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, I was gonna say, it's not just that they
beat up on an opponent and a you know.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah in New huh and it was Stonehill for two
games on the road again on the weekend, but uh one, yeah,
eight one five nothing twelve to one. The three results
for Princeton last week not a bad week and not
a bad week for Izzy Wonder in that twelve one
wins Saturday. Five goals one in the first, one the second,

(01:36):
and then three in the third. Wow. I mean, what
a week for a team to go through and just
kind of run over an opponent in three straight games.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah. I think maybe because they weren't ranked and we
weren't paying and there were some losses in there. But
like scrolling back, they have one game where they scored
one goal and one game where they scored two goals,
and every other game they whether it's win or loss,
they've scored three or more goals, like just the offensive output,
which is fascinating because they graduated Sarahfiliates one season, right yeah, uh,

(02:12):
they were not scoring like this with her on the
on the team. Yeah, it's fascinating. I was I was
saying to you, like over at Victory Press, I was
writing up a little like midpoint, like who are some
of my favorites for some of the awards, And if
you go you go look at and see women's hockey stats.
Right now, it's just a bunch of Badgers and Tigers
because of you know, these blowout games they've played. Like

(02:33):
it's it's really skewed it. It's not at all accurate
to just like look at I mean, I don't only
look at goal scored or whatever, but you look at
things at like points per game and you know some
other stuff, and like, nope, it's just if you were
to look at the stats, which sadly a lot of
voters do right now, you would just get like an
entire like Patty has top ten of Well, no, I
shouldn't say that. They'll be a culty from Colgate and

(02:54):
maybe Melissa Peterman, but yeah, it's uh wow, those games
really just skewed the heck out of the country stats.
But yeah, I don't you know, I have to admit that,
like I was not planning to watch that that Princeton
be You game. I don't remember why. There was something
else going on, and then I was like, I guess
I'll be turning this on. Oh that's because it was

(03:15):
two in the afternoon, that's why. Uh. But I was like, uh,
excuse me, Like I saw the first score update, you know,
at like four or five goals, and I was like
what No, So yeah, uh guess we should. At Princeton
was mad we weren't paying attention and we all need
to be start doing that too. And I'd like to say, like,
no offense to some other teams, but they're their upcoming
schedule doesn't like make me think. I mean, they have

(03:37):
Quinnipiac this upcoming weekend, but like they play l A
U R P I in Union after that, so I'm not, like,
again trying to be realistic, but friends, I don't think
those are going to be low scoring games either.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
I did notice the the game this weekend Saturday game,
Princeton hosting Quinnipiac set on Saturday, So that is one
where Okay, you score twenty five goals in a week,
you can't drop back down again and score two goals
against Quinnipiac and and and let that ride that way.

(04:13):
This is something you've got to follow up with that.
You've got to if you're Princeton, you've got to take
it back and try and get something on Quinnipiac, which
is easier said than done.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Well, they have one of the best goalies in the
country as well, like Kaylie Doyle has been having you know,
a heck of a season, So yeah, I think this
will be it To me, it'll just be an interesting test, right, Like,
I think it'll tell us a decent amount of both
both teams in terms of like, is this this scoring
output that we're seeing for Princeton for real? I mean they,
like I said, they've been It's not as though it
was just those three games. Obviously those were the big ones,

(04:43):
but you know, they were putting four or five goals
up on the board, you know against Colegate. You know,
they scored three against Cornell and and Lee's Bergman and
net another really great goalie. So I don't expect that
they're not gonna score any this weekend. But yeah, I
think the preparation for Quinnipiac probably changed quite a bit

(05:04):
after the last couple of results, So yeah, it'll be interesting.
I mean, Izzy Wonder is on an absolute tear. But
they also Princeton also has one of the one of
the best freshmen in the country doing really interesting stuff. Well,
they have the Taher Holomos, but McKenzie Alexander has been
absolutely like lights out and obviously like she was really
good with the Candy you eighteens, but still she's having

(05:26):
a heck of a season. So it will be.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Interesting asists on Saturday for Mackenzie Alexander. Not a bad day,
not a bad month for some players, but not a bad.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Day, right, And I'd like to remind people, like we're
talking about Princeton. This is a IVY League team, so
they've only played been playing for about a month, right, Like,
this is not so when we talk about freshmen usually
needing some time to get used to what, you know,
the speed and the stuff, Like McKenzie should be still
in that window. And instead she's like, no, I'm good.
I'm gonna be one of the top scoring people in

(05:57):
the country. It's fine. I'm like several games, so yeah, fascinating.
Can't wait to keep watching what's gonna happen here, because
I I it's crazy. I mean, there are several of
their players are now, you know, averaging more than two
points a game. Yeah, McKenzie Alexander's leading the country with
two point two three points per game, slightly more than

(06:20):
Casey O'Brien, and then Izzy Wonder is third at two
point one five. There are three players at two points
a game and two of them are from Princeton, So
uh yeah, it's a it's a fascinating. I like, I
don't know what to make of it, Like I'm in
the like let's wait and see, like watch it. But
you certainly have my attention.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, all right, well, also getting our attention. Last week,
trophies season getting started a little bit, well, the mid
season trophy season, I guess.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Tar trophy season.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yes, guitar trophies. You're right that guitar went to Clarkson,
which won the Smashville Showcase in Nashville by beating Merrimack
four nothing after squeak king past Saint Thomas five to
four and overtime in the semi finals.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
It is surprising way to go to Saint.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Thomas, and Saint Thomas took Penn State the overtime to
the next day. So I mean playing two ranked teams,
that's you know, Saint Thomas seemed, that's that's gone through
some self.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
I's just gonna say, like would be impressive in isolation,
but knowing the story of what's been going on with
that program in the last couple of weeks, like way
to you know, way to pull it all together and
sort of surround themselves, like circle themselves up and play
for each other as a team.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Right, But Clarkson gets the win in the first game,
Carolyn Geffredo with an overtime goal with one point five
seconds left on the clock that had to be reviewed
and checked over and did end up counting. But you know,
that's it's that far away from going to a shootout
to decide who advances, and you know, who knows what
happens there. It's you know, Clarkson kind of gets past

(07:53):
that one and and you know puts a stamp on
in the championship game winning for nothing against Merrimack.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
But shout out Merrimac taking down Penn State three one, right,
I mean that was their fifth win of the season.
Like Merrimack is a team that is is not been
putting it together that well this season, so that was
a really impressive win for them.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
So that tournament to me was a little bit of
the huh, Like, wasn't necessarily expecting maybe expected the result
at the end of Clarkson coming with the trophy.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
But it was maybe not played Merrimac, right, maybe not.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
The path that that all those games took. So that
that was an intriguing one for me.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yep, it was, and it was unfortunate, like I appreciate
they had those games streamed on YouTube, but it was
like the stationary camera at the back of the stand.
So in terms of like getting a red one, what
what was happening in those games and understanding of those
different outcomes, I'm not I'm not sure that was possible.
But yeah, may you know Merrimack Tessa Jiannicky had penciyed

(08:50):
up when nothing after the first and Merrimack came back
and scored the next three goals, the last one being
an empty nutter. But yeah, continue, Like we've talked about
my love for an underdog, and so I just I
am I am very competitive, but I'm also very like,
I just want everybody to do well. And so just
like when teams that have been struggling and are not
maybe living up to what they want to be able

(09:11):
to do and hope people to do, when they get
wins like this, I'm just like, I'm so jazzed for them.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Well, continuing on that theme, Yale, which went into the
Nutmeg Classic at five hundred, gets a win in the
semifinals against Yukon number fourteen. Yukon we sem three to one,
and then takes Quinnipiac to overtime and that ends up
in a one to one tie and Yale wins the
shootout to come away with a Nutmeg Classic championship, avenging

(09:36):
the result from last season in that tournament of all
Connecticut teams, and so that that was enough to push
Yale back into the top fifteen at number fourteen. They're
sitting six five and two this season. That's you know,
a record that's not you know, I don't think anyone's
going crazy over but winning a championship and doing you know,

(10:00):
what you needed to do to get a trophy here
at the end of November, end of December, you know,
maybe sets you up for a nice little run eventually
when they when they're able to get more of a
runway year because you know, you have to shut it
down here for winter break eventually, but maybe leads into
something in the second half too.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, I think it's important that like they're winning the
games they're supposed to be winning, you know. Notably, they
beat Princeton early on, tied Quinnipiac, you know, swept a
weekend with Brown, a home and home with Brown when
Brown was ranked, and then their losses to the ring
other eight teams in the ectar are mostly one goal
losses or overtime losses, and so that definitely that record

(10:39):
doesn't tell their full story, right, But man, that championship
game with them against Quinnipiac was a heck of a
game to watch. As I mentioned Kaylie Doyle from Quinnipiac,
one of the best goalies and she she had herself
a game that time, and and but p of Duke
ch was amazing in the shootout. And I think importantly,
I think Yale buys their own right, like they're I

(11:01):
think they're their best hype women. Like I think they
know that they're a little better than their their record,
and they know that people haven't been paying attention because
of the record. And I don't know, they just they
play like they're feeling themselves, like they know that they're
a really good team, and the just kind of confidence
that they carried in that shootout. But man, that was
one of the most hung games to watch in the
last couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
The Mayor's Cup in Providence on Saturday, Brown winning that
one three to two over the Friars India mcdotti brokeing
a to two tight thirty nine seconds into the third
period for the final margin there. Brown's house up and
down right for some season, looked really good for a while,

(11:42):
took a few steps back.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
That's what happens when your building right, it is right.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
And I think anytime you win a trophy and the
time you win a rivalry game, that gets you up
a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Well, it was their first one in ten to eleven years,
since twenty fourteen, so not just that they wanted, but
the bit first win in you know, a very long
time for Brown in that Mayor's Cup. So like as
you said, I think anytime you win, that's a it's
a boost, but that particularly knowing that it was a
long time coming and that like I think that for
a while, that was just like it was given that

(12:17):
the providence was going to take that win. And so
just a big another one of those sort of milestones
for Brown to know that like they're they're building, they're
changing you know, the past and making some you know,
making the program something different and growing. So yeah, congratulations
to them. I think that must have just been an
absolutely huge, huge win for them.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
And in Hockey East on Saturday, Boston College shutout Northeastern
three nothing behind a twenty three saved shutout from Grace Campbell.
Boston College moved up from eleventh to tenth in the
U s eho dot Com Pole this week. It's you know,
they're they're right in that mix. They're in that and

(13:00):
their their pair wise number and their NPI is better
than that, so they're they're in the mix for talking
about in that large spot in the NCAA tournament if
it gets to that point, if they're not able to
win the Hockey East title, so.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Well, and you gotta win, Like these are the types
of games you have to win. I mean, you know,
we've talked about in Hockey East maybe sometimes that the
losses you shouldn't have against teams, but like this was
a prime time on nesson like huge game for them,
and they went out and like no doubt, one three nothing.
It was also Katie Crowley's four hundredth career win, so
congratulations coach. That's a massive accomplishment. But yeah, I just

(13:35):
I thought it was. I mean, I think I've said
this before, but in years past, like there are times
when you're like waiting for BC to sort of like
take that next step or like the opportunities there, the
doors open, and then they would sort of go out
and lay an egg and not win a game that
you were like, oh, you needed those points and that
would have been so good. So for them to like
have this one off really sort of big, big deal
game and go out and win it definitively right, like

(14:00):
it was an empty net or but like they had
this game you know they played well, there wasn't It
wasn't something they squeaked out or had to win in overtime.
Like this was a pretty secure win for them. And
so yeah, I just I was excited to see that
for them. And I think, like you said, they're they're
polling lower than their numbers ultimately show that they should be.

(14:21):
And so yeah, imagine two Hockey East teams in the
in the tournament at large Hockey East team.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
It feels like it's been a while or that we've
been talking abouts of that, but that that could be
the case of this area. Yeah, what else jumped out
of you about Thanksgiving weekend?

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Well, I was a really interesting series between Saint Coades
Stanton Union and as we talked about just sort of
seeing West coast East coast teams or how you that
west coast but East and West teams, Uh, Midwest coast,
Midwest coast, Yeah, Great Lakes coast. But anyway, it's just
we you know, sometimes we see the top teams for
each other, but it's actually kind of nice to see
sort of like middle of the table or lower teams

(15:01):
for each other and see like where they're where they're
matching up with each other. So really good series from Union, right,
Like they they got massively out shot, and they were
but they they weathered the storm and you know, had
some great goaltending and I just thought it was really interesting.
I'm not necessarily I sure I expected Union to be
able to pull off what they did, so, you know,

(15:22):
just good for them, and I think it's just, uh,
it's good for I think Saint Cloud to play a
game like that where they're gonna get frustrated and put
all those shots and not be able to answer. I
think like they'll learn a lot from that series as well.
But yeah, I they won in a nine run shoot
at Union one in a nine one shoot nine round
shootout in game one, and then Saint Cloud took a

(15:44):
two one win in the second game. So just a
closer series than I think I expected it to be,
but I thought it was it was really cool to
to sort of see the two different styles and and
where those two teams match up.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, Saint Cloud's got a big series coming up this weekend,
which we'll touch on a little bit later in the show.
But when we come back, McKenna Webster from Ohio State
will join us, so seale us on the podcast. Hi,
welcome back to the podcast. Todd Loski here with Nicole
Hosey and our special guests from the Ohio State University

(16:16):
of McKenna Webster. McKenna, thanks for being with us. Happy
holidays to you. We're really happy you're with us as
a as someone who can talk about what it's like
being a fifty year player in college hockey but also
a player in field hockey, because that is really something
that you don't see a ton of any more, two
sport athletes in college. And I wanted to ask you

(16:40):
right away how difficult that's been to balance being as
good as you are into sports over over a length
of time like this.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, I mean in the past three years been playing both.
Obviously there's hard days, but like I always say, Ohio
s has the resources and the communication to allow me
to so I would say it's been it's been going smoothly,
so it's been good.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
You started your career at the University of Wisconsin and
then transferred because Wisconsin doesn't have a field hockey team
and you wanted to be able to do both sports.
Can you just kind of talk us through sort of
that decision. Obviously then you had not been playing field
hockey at that level, and so like were you playing,
you know, outside of the ice hockey season. Can you

(17:30):
kind of just talk us through sort of the process
in choosing Wisconsin and then at one point deciding that,
like you wanted to put some focus on field hockey
and I think for you probably focus on trying to
make a national team, and just sort of how that
all came about.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yeah, I would say kind of decided to go to
Wisconsin only play ice hockey for my goal to be
on the national team, be on the Olympic team. And
then after those two years things aren't really aliging, like
no matter. Well I was kind of doing which is sad,
but in reality, I just decided my second year kind

(18:07):
of by the end, I'm like, if I have the
opportunity to play two sports in college, why didn't I
take it? I was missing field hockey obviously is some success.
When I was younger with it, and the last few
years of kind of deciding in high school about college,
I was debating on playing both and then it's kind

(18:28):
of kind of my sophomore year, I'm like, I'm gonna
do it and got in the portal and that's what
I was looking for, only to play at schools that
had both sports.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
What was it like from you know, talking with coaches
about that, wanting to be part of two sports because
I know every coach wants you on their team, but
you wanted to go in this splitting with sports that
overlap each other in terms of schedules. How how were
that were those conversations like with coaches to find this

(18:59):
a fit for or that that they'd be okay with.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah, so obviously if you go to school, choose a
team you're on, they want you for that whole year.
But it was pretty interesting. A conversation I had with
various different schools were really understanding and they knew that
I couldn't be at everything at all times, but they
basically said, if we have you that this amount of time,
like we want you. And so it's pretty cool that

(19:27):
both sports within the schools wanted me and allowed me
to do that because obviously it's not fair a lot
not being around all the time. So conversations went well
and the schools that I was deciding from was okay
with no matter what I did.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
With ice hockey having such a long season, like it's
kind of impossible not to overlap, right, but like once
field hockey season is over, you do like you still
have several months of the ice hockey season that you
can you're solely focusing on.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yes, which is also nice playing a sport like ice
hockey which has a long season and obviously there's overlap.
So it worked out playing I think five weeks this year,
playing three games in a weekend.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Goodness for you. I guess I wanted to ask what
that can you tell us for people that are maybe
not familiar with either one of the sports, maybe their
field hockey people listening or ice hockey people listening. How
the two storts inform each other for you and how
you use the skills that you've learned in both in
the other sport, Like, how do those two work together
for you?

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, it's funny. We're kind of talking about this today
about how like espnW posted on Instagram and the comments
are basically saying, that's the same as playing beach volleyball
and regular volleyball are running two sprints in track, but
in reality they're completely different. The training's completely different, it's
played way different. Obviously, field hockey on you can use

(20:47):
one side of the sick a lot different rules. So
I would just say, obviously a team sport work ethic,
like growing up, that's the similarities to it playing on
a team sport and kind of just working as hard
as you can. But besides that, it's completely opposite when
it comes to everything else.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Your parents were really high level athletes when they're growing up, right,
and that they continue and playing in the college. And
I wonder how much of that, you know, athleticism is
just kind of running in your family feel, and there
is this kind of a continuation of that of like
wanting to be competitive in a lot of different areas.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah, I think growing up obviously having a successful brother
in ice hockey, growing up, always competitive, family, always competitive.
They both played at high levels, so and they encourage
us to like learning a lot from them kind of
what it takes to be a Division one athlete. We
kind of learned that from starting from them and then

(21:46):
going into the competitive nature of me and my brother
and just wanting to be always better than him kind
of allowed me to be where I am today.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
When it came to picking up field hockey after your
second year, your sophomore in terms of like how were
coaches because you hadn't been playing obviously in college, and
so I was just curious how that went in terms
of how you were like had to sell yourself for show, like, wait,
I can still I'm still this good, I can still
compete at this level, like sell yourself a little to them.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yeah, honestly, I think kind of being younger, been playing
throughout my senior year, going to lots of camps and
be able to make the team that went to Germany,
coaches were able to see me there, and I think
it was kind of just there, either take a bet
on me and it's good or it's not. So I

(22:41):
would say that because obviously people haven't seen me play
in two and a half years, so it was more
just we'll try to build you back up.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Did it take a while. Did it feel like, you know,
maybe because you're in you were in such good shape
from playing ice hockey that you were a be able
to keep that going a little bit, even though you're saying,
you know, it's different training, it's different. You know, parts
of your body you're using obviously, but.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
What was that like, Yeah, I was gonna say, like,
my first year here is definitely tough. It is definitely
tough balancing both sports, but getting back into field hockey,
getting back into running, getting back in systematically of the sport,
the technical part of the sports, and just my stick skills.
But I think over time and eventually got better being

(23:30):
more successful. My second year, I kind of needed to
get under my feet again, not only the skills, but
just kind of the game and understanding, especially at that
college level where I never played high school for field hockey,
so I never played at the highest level with that.
So the transition took me a little longer, but eventually
I was able to get where I needed to be.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
I feel like, you have to be the world's most
organized person to be a two sport. Do you want
an athlete like that? How like just and what kind
of skilled maybe the off I stuff or maybe like
what have you learned from from doing what you've been
doing the past couple of years. What are the big takeaways.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Takeaways is just a lot of communication, a lot of
sometimes reflecting about how your body feels and how much
you can endure. Just with that time management. I mean
playing one sports obviously so tough. Let alone to have
good time management. Just as I said, communication kind of
telling what your needs and just having communication between each

(24:33):
sports has been great.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
I wanted to take you back the last season last
March and April. Really, you're in National, you're in Frozen four,
your brother mckaid's and the n NCAA's championship at the
same time. You win a championship. A couple of weeks later,
he does too. How can you just put that those
few weeks into in the perspective as a family and

(24:58):
what that meant. We've seen it happen before that, you know,
brothers and sisters win the same season. But I'd love
just for some perspective on what that meant for you
all and how what it was like going through it
on both sides of the glass, winning a championship on
the ice and watching it happen from right on the

(25:19):
other side of the glass.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah, first one to say, on the other side, I
understand like how parents are now. I don't know if
I can have kids after watching my brother and I
think that was more nervous for him than myself. But
obviously winning national championship for US last year was such
an amazing experience after what happened the year before US

(25:42):
losing coming back when with kind of a new team
and a very great team, like one of the best teams.
I think anyone could say that was is ever going
to be a team. So winning that and the work
we put in, it's just again any talking to any
of Ohio State coach, the work we put in is
second to none, and all we want to do is

(26:06):
strive to win and obviously the goals to win the
last game of the year and we're always doing that.
So great to win that, and then I was able
to fly to watch my brother and his semi finals
in before the Frozen Four or going into the Frozen Four,

(26:26):
which I was awesome too. And it was really cool
just seeing him as the captain the team leading that
team as he wasn't one of the best players on
the team, he wasn't the goal scorer, but they chose
him as a captain for a reason and just shows
like how great of a person he is to be
wearing a seat in that situation and going off that
he had so many injuries, struggling with his last few seasons,

(26:51):
so being able to finish on top and then eventually
having to retire due to all his injuries, even though
he got a call from Tampa Bay sad his body
just couldn't handle anymore. So finishing out my parents get
to see his last time ever playing sports again was
winning so as the captain of Denver, which is one

(27:11):
of one of the best schools for men's hockey. So
it was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
You sound it sounds like you're getting emotional just talking
about it, Like how how close are you guys? How much?
I mean, I would assume playing the same sport like you,
there's I would assume there's both, but competitiveness and support
and just for you as as a player, like you
were saying, like being not wanting to be a parent,
Like are you just kind of the person sticking in
the chair, Like no, you know, it's like pass it here,
do this? Why didn't you do that? I'm just curious

(27:40):
about sort of like the sport and then what it
feels like to not be able to have the control
in that situation where you would much rather be the
person on the ice.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Yeah, say can you repeat?

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Like sure?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah? Just what was it? Are you and your brother competitive?
Like did you grow up playing together? Like how what
is the relationship that you two have?

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, so grew up always playing together or
like playing together, shooting pucks down in our basement, always
competing that way, playing horse, playing pig. One time I
somehow like took a shot and gave him a black guy.
We have lots of stories growing up, but we did
a bunch of camps growing up, lots of skills session,

(28:21):
get up at six am before school a lot of days,
and just kind of did the grind together. So I
think it was always competitive, but to a point. Obviously,
he's just he's a guy excels a lot lot faster
than me, So it kind of turned in to instead
of the competitiveness, more helping out and kind of being supportive.

(28:42):
And obviously we went to Shaddock for two years together
and having him there was pretty cool, and like going
to watch his games and he went to go watch
my games, probably more to like see my teammates play,
but it was still it was still nice he was there.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
You've been on both sides of the Ohio State Whisky
and rival now and I mean we see how how
intense those games are from the from the outside, from
the seats, can you can you express what they're like.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
On the ice inside the boards of just how good
that that feels to be in a game that's that
really evenly matched between teams and you know you're playing
at the highest level of NCAA hockey.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Yeah, I mean those are my favorite games to play.
Then like Minnesota, but going to just Wisconsin is just
being on first. Being on the Wisconsin side, it's like
going into house Sate. I didn't know too many people personally.
I just knew, like, wow, these girls work hard and
they will do anything to win, like lay their body out,
and playing them is like the hardest games ever. And

(29:52):
it came down to who wanted it more. And it's
just a different style that we saw. And then kind
of coming over to Ohio State, like you see how
coach Mas trains us to do that and what the
work we put in. And I have so many kudos
for the girls before us when I was on Wisconsin.
So it's just so it's so interesting to see, but

(30:12):
the rivalry is just it's amazing. And playing with all
those girls I've played in the past. I played with
some Wisconsin girls, played with them at camps, and then
I stay obviously playing with all of them. It's just
I feel like I know every single person on the ice.
But it's just still such a huge rivalry and it
just comes literally, like I said before, it just comes

(30:32):
down who wants it more. Because both teams super skilled,
Both teams have so many national team players, and it's
just it's so awesome.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Is there a grudging respect between the two Do you think?

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yeah? I think for like, we really respect them, Like
we know how great of players every single one of
them are. You can see it on NCAA stats. It's
just they're all amazing players. They're all like representing their
country and like they put in the work. They're great players.
But like so are we. Like I respect so many

(31:03):
players on our team. Most of our team is going
to four nations, and it's just it's so awesome to
see on both teams. It's such a respect thing playing them,
and it's just it's so awesome to play them. Like
I feel like sometimes we learn a lot from playing them.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
I was wondering because the big game coming up is
Wisconsin Ohio State, first here in Madison and then going
to Rialley Field for that January fourth game. One part
of it is can you just maybe get into what
the excitement level is like for that for to be

(31:41):
on that big of a stage. And then two, I
would imagine from having played at Wisconsin, you know a
lot of the Obviously you know the players, but you
know their parents. You have to see them around at things.
I'm sure you know Casey O'Brien's parents, you've known them
for years. What is that like, you know, having that
interaction of you know, maybe we don't range into each

(32:02):
other very often, but I would imagine there's still some
some pretty good feelings there.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah. I mean it's pretty funny. Actually, after our game
we played a few weeks ago, my parents, who are
on the Wisconsin side, the whole time after the game,
kind of like when we were all coming up and
saying hi to our parents, and they had no idea
that there's two different sides because they were hanging out
with all Wisconsin's parents just saying hi, just checking in

(32:28):
because I've known so many of them grow up with
a good amount and just respect for them and all
my friends. So it's pretty awesome playing them. I feel
like I always hang out and have such good conversations.
But so it's pretty funny. My parents love them too.
But eventually I told them where they were supposed to
stand after the games, know how the state side, but

(32:51):
went back to the game. I think it's just such
a unique opportunity on its own, just playing at real
Wrigley Field, playing outside, I mean, I've never got to
do an outdoor game, so it's just it's such a
unique opportunity. And playing Wisconsin on that feel, it's just
I mean, it's there. Couldn't have been a better setup
for that game.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
I have to ask, are you a Cards fan? Are
you a Cardinals fan?

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah? Yes, I haven't been in Saint Louis for a while,
but I went to one of their World Series wins.
I want to say it's twenty eleven, but I can't
quite remember. But the Cardinals are on. I'm cheering for them,
but I can't probably tell you what their record is.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
It's just laughing at like of the Wisconsin folks and
now you from Saint Louis, like going into Wrigley Field,
like not exactly home territory. I know, we kind of
just jumped right in, and I guess we kind of assume,
but I just want to make sure. I just want
to talk a little bit about like the people understand that, like,
you know, you were the like number six score in
the nation in field hockey, Like when you're doing this,

(33:52):
you had twenty six points last season and ice hockey League,
you were performing You're not just playing two D one sports,
but like performing at this really elite level. I kind
of threw in there, like you had a couple three
game weekends, like just this absolutely sort of elite. Like
I don't think people can wrap their heads around sort
of what it is that you're going out there and doing.
And so I just wanted to ask, can you tell

(34:12):
us a little bit about like what it takes for
you to switch between those two over the course of
the weekend or is at this point is it just
sort of like muscle memory, Like you got out a different,
different outfit, different uniforms, so you know what you're doing.
But yeah, I just like this isn't just that like
you're doing something like this. You were out there being
one of the best players in the country in field hockey,
and then also you know, really contributing. It's it's uh

(34:35):
for ice hockey as well, and have in the past
had some of the best numbers in the country in
ice hockey, and so I mean, it's just it's just
this really impressive thing. I mean, we kind of just
want walked into the interview started asking you questions. What
I want to make sure our listeners know that that
this is this is big deal stuff that you're doing,
and you're you know, you're working towards playing you know,
in the Olympics and for the US national team. So

(34:55):
can you just tell us a little bit about you know,
that transition and then maybe what the the work looks
like coming up next for field hockey.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, obviously playing three games in a weekend, nuts it's crazy,
but I always tell people like I don't have time
to think. I just go and do it. But it's
definitely a little different switching between both sports every other day,
Like I said, completely different different mindset. Going in prepare

(35:26):
differently like field hockey at wake up, maybe put a sweatshirts, sweatpants,
go to our game and it's done by three hockey
like we have pregame skate, we have meals, we we
dress up, and we have like a whole system. So
definitely different. But I feel like it's just been muscle
memory after these three years. I know, I know what

(35:47):
it's like going into an ice hockey game. I know
how to prepare, and then Sames field hockey is just
you gotta have the same mindset kind of just what
you're gonna do today, Like I'm gonna go out there
and be successful like personally but especially with the team.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
So yeah, and then what does like in terms of
working towards like national team stuff and things like that,
what does that look like for field hockey, like moving
forward now that you're sort of your collegiate career is over,
and what what you are hoping you know what comes next?

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Yeah, Actually last week I traveled to Charlotte, North Carolina
and played with the senior national team in a three
game series against Germany. So I missed more games. I
missed man Cato weekend, which obviously is not ideal. But
I gotta think too of the my future, but just
kind of keep trying to camp in actually December for

(36:41):
a team later on in the year. So I'm just
gonna keep keep grinding, keep seeing the opportunities that I
have given and just try my best to get on teams.
And my goals in life is just I want to
keep playing as long as it can at the highest level.
Like dream has always been an Olympians, So do whatever
it can and to make that dream happen.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Last question for me before I turn it back over
to Nicole, is you've been on a couple of NCAA
championship teams, one right away as a freshman, then again
last season. You've also been really really close and not one.
What's the thing that puts it over the top. I mean,

(37:25):
when you talk about being there to win a championship
and and being the one that actually does it, it's
miles apart the feeling afterward. But I wonder if you
have any thoughts on just what it takes, I guess
even to be there in that conversation, but also to
to be the one that's left standing at the end.

(37:45):
And is there is there something you can point to there?

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah? I mean it's hard. I've I've lost in the championship,
won in the championship, lost in the semi finals, but
any team can win on any given day, depending like
how hard you work, no matter who's on your team
and how skilled someone is, every team's going to give
you their best, so kind of taking each game one

(38:11):
on one and one game out of time. But getting
into that championship is just all the work that you've
done throughout the year, Like that's the moment that you
need to put it all and just go and leave
everything out there. But I wouldn't say I think the
year we lost mentally it was just something weird. Our

(38:32):
team just wasn't there. We had the people we easily
just hard Wisconsin, like they're so great, you know, always
one bounce can lead to a national championship, which is
tough in the sport. It's hard to win. But she's
got to be ready. I don't know, I don't know
what exactly is the way to win it in the championship,

(38:56):
but you got to do everything you can.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
There's just sort of nobody that has the range of
experience that you have, having played for these two top teams,
playing the two sports, the national championships, the stuff with
the national team in field hockey, the junior national team
in ice hockey. Do you have can you give like
one piece of advice or like one big thing you've learned,

(39:20):
or what you take away from all of this that
that maybe can help other people. Just it's just such
a unique experience and I think it would be helpful
to hear, like what you take from this that other
like other younger players might be able to use.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah, I would just say the people around, the people
that helped you, like where you are, never forget that
and listen to what people have to say, like growing
up from when you're little, from coaches you've had, from trainers,
from everyone. Listen to them because all they wanted is
the best for you. And as you grow up you
meet so many great people and just having that connection

(39:56):
kind of supporting them, having them supporting you in the future,
like so many things, opportunities will happen, but just being
a great person. Obviously anyone can be such a great athlete,
can do well in sports, but it all just takes
being a great person and leave your legacy in a

(40:17):
great way. And then like in the past, when growing up,
I know that I'll have so many connections to help
support me or someone else in the future. So just
moral a story wrapping it up is just the connections
you have with people and how you treat people.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Perfect. Thank you so much. We appreciate the time.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, McKenna Webster a twenty twenty one champion at Wisconsin,
twenty twenty four champion at our house state. I got
to think that might be the only two championships at
different schools and women's hockey. I haven't done the research
on that, but just off the top of my head,
I'm thinking you're one of one, McKenna. So congratulations on that.
Best of luck with everything here the rest of the

(40:57):
season and then going forward with everything you do. And
thanks a lot for joining us.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah, thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Good buck with the field hockey. We're excited to watch.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
All right, stay with us on the podcast. We'll be
read back. Welcome back to the podcast. Todd Molluski here
with Nicole Hosey. Nicole, let's look ahead to this week
in NCAA Women's hockey and also to really this week
in women's hockey because we'll talk a little Pet dub

(41:29):
as well. But one of the big series we talked
about just briefly earlier in the show coming up this
weekend is number four minisode Duluth at number eight, Saint
Cloud State teams that are you know, not far away
from each other in w H standings. And really when

(41:51):
you're looking at Duluth, if they get three points, they
are ahead of Ohio State in the standings. As it
goes into the winter break, uh, Saint Cloud can hide
Duluth at twenty three points with a sweep. So there's
you know when you're talking about where this is going
to end up and where these teams. You know, last
year we're playing for home ice in the playoffs and

(42:14):
you know, playing each other in the playoffs, and you know,
I think it was the final weekend or one of
the final weekends they were playing each other to see
who would hoist that series if it comes down to that. Again,
we're talking about these these games being an awful lot.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah, you know, we were talking about Saint Cloud State
having that series last weekend that went differently than they
want to want. In Minnesota, Duluth we didn't talk about,
but had a really convincing weekend series against Vermont, a
team that has been struggling, but still Minnesota Duluth you know,
went out and put up nine goals. Caitlyn Kramer had
her first career hat trick, so you know, they're sort
of rioting high. And yeah, I think we you know,

(42:51):
if you look at the w CCHA standings there, you know,
you see Wisconsin at the top in Ohio state, but
that that middle group is is mighty close. And I think,
you know, even arguably you're looking at Mankato and Saint
Thomas are are not, you know, one good weekend away
from at least pushing back at Saint Cloud. So these
are these are must win games for both of those
teams as far as I'm concerned, just in terms of

(43:11):
holding steady and keeping their trajectory and also being in
a good place heading into the winter break. Right.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, that's in the w c AHA. You've got Wisconsin
and then you've got a gap, and then you've got
a bunch of teams that are kind of bunched together there.
It's gonna be fascinating and we see how that shakes out.
I won't be completely surprised if it ends up being
a little bit like we've seen in the past, where

(43:39):
it's either Wisconsin or House stated one in two Minnesota, Minnesota,
Saint Cloud. I won't be surprised for it that way,
but I think there's a chance that it gets shaken
up this year.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
I mean, Team Chaos always wants that, and yeah, I
mean I think it's it's great for the conference, it's
great for fans, it's great for for hockey. Like these
these teams, like it's all so cyclical. We've talked about,
like with recruiting and all that sort of stuff. So
so some of these teams, they're not going to break
through if they aren't getting some of those wins. And
so you know, that's like where Saint Cloud wants to be.
And they've shown that they're capable of beating some of

(44:12):
the teams and pushing up against the teams at the
top of the conference. And you know, this is a
really got opportunity for them to to you know, gain
some ground. And we also, like we saw was that
two weeks ago that when Saint Cloud and Minnesota had
the home and home Saint Cloud dominated on their home ice.

(44:33):
Like we sometimes I think we talk way too much
about the size of the larger ice sheet there. And
then I turned around and watch Saint Cloud like really
use that and and make have it make a difference
for them. And so I think it also makes a
difference then that that this is a game happening at
Saint Cloud's or weekend happening at Saint Cloud State, and
just the way that they use that ice. But I
also think that, like as Kreitl Graymer gets used to

(44:54):
to that she's going to be really dangerous there. She's
just such a creative player. Yeah, I you know, it's
going to be about how the goalies play it. And
these are you know, teams with some of the best
goalies in the conference and so, but they're both young,
and yeah, I have no idea I will be surprised
by no outcome in this like if they tie, if
they split, if one wins, if one sweeps off the

(45:16):
other sweeps. I think like both teams are capable of
all of those things, and so that's what makes it
a worthwhile series to watch as far as I'm concerned,
because I don't think the outcome is at all one
you can guess.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Right also in the this week another there is that
has a little bit more intrigue, I guess now after
seeing what happened last weekend with Saint Thomas and the
Tommy's hosting Minnesota for two games, even I think there's
a usually home and home series when they played Consitting
there what seven miles apart or something like that, But
it looks like on our schedule anyway, we have Saint

(45:50):
Thomas hosting both of them. So Saint Thomas didn't get
a win last weekend, but still kind of felt like
there was some winning happening in Nashville with the as
we talked about before taking Clarks into the very last
second and a half of overtime before falling in the

(46:10):
semi final of that tournament, and then going to overtime
in a shootout with Penn State in the third place game.
Now you bring that home and you have to play
Minnesota and so that the stretch of tough opponents doesn't
get any easier for them, and I think Minnesota will

(46:32):
be more than happy to to, you know, get back
on the ice.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
And the San Gophers are coming off a bye weekend as.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Well, show that they've you know, the cross town even
though it's the same town cross Twin Cities area rivalry
is still on their side.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah. Absolutely, I mean I do think that, you know,
you have to assume that the Gophers are the favorites here,
but like you said, I just think it gets slightly
more intriguing now after what Saint Thomas showed last week,
and I just think the again it's it's going to
be goaltending. But you know, Danny Stram has been so
strong for them, and I do think that, like, you know,
it's really unfortunate what they've gone through, but it does

(47:09):
seem to have really like made the team very cohesive,
and I, yeah, I don't I'm not sure it's just
as much of a given. We've seen Minnesota, you know,
drop points that we didn't maybe didn't expect them to drop.
We've seen Saint Thomas pull points off Ohio State, so
if that those were games at home as well, And
so I just think, knowing having seen over the last

(47:30):
month what Saint Thomas is capable of, this definitely has
to be more of a concern from the Gophers than
maybe it would have been in different situation.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Yeah, in the Atlanta Cocky America Conference, we have Penn State,
which we had mentioned before, having a rough weekend last
weekend in Nashville named Rebound, playing at Mercyhurst. That's a
matchup of the top two teams in AHA and Penn State.
Really you know, has a four point lead on Mercy here,

(48:01):
so it has a little bit of a cushion, but
that could be gone quickly if they're not able to
rebound this weekend and get some get some results at
at Mercy Hears.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yeah, and Mercy Hurst had Upstate New York had a
rough weekend weatherwise, and they were meant to play Ohio
State and those games got or that team got postponed
because of that. So you know, there they've had a
nice long rest and we're preparing for a you know,
a fast paced, you know, quick game, and so the

(48:33):
way that that might help them here could be interesting.
Penn State obviously you had to travel down to Nashville,
and then now they're traveling to Mercy Hurst, and Penn
State having been able to I'm sorry, Merciers, having been
able to stay home and not have that extra game,
but have been prepared for an apponement that is tougher
than Penn State might really work out for them and
this weekend. So, you know, I think Mercyhurst is one

(48:55):
of those teams that's kind of just just on the edge, right,
Like they've just shown flashes of being really capable of
doing some great stuff. There's seven night and one right now.
But we've talked about they've got some really great international
talent and I just think they're a team that is
going to continue to get better. And so yeah, that
that what makes that an intriguing series to me.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
I hope we didn't jinx that series, the Penn State
Wars series series, because the area is supposed to get
another couple of feet of snow this week.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Almost a joke about like is it going to happen?

Speaker 1 (49:25):
I didn't check your local listings on that one to
make sure that that series actually.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Are upstate New York. Those ones will actually get rescheduled.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
You would have to, Yeah, they would have to reschedule
at some point unless there's just no way of doing it.
And then you're talking about what we were doing in
the COVID seasons of But hopefully hopefully everything's okay there
and uh, Penn State's able to get there and get
a couple of good games in there. We'd mentioned this earlier,
Quinn't Pak number nine playing at Princeton on Saturday. Again,

(50:03):
it's it's a you know, ECAC important point, ECAC point
game for both of those teams, depending on kind of
where they are in their individual places in the standings,
whether you're kind of in the middle or in the
upper reaches, there trying to be there. And I just

(50:24):
think that this is, like, like I think you mentioned before,
a test of whether Princeton's scoring can continue against a
really good defense.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Yeah. Absolutely, Quinnipiack is a great defensive team anyway, Like
as we mentioned, Killy Doyle is just I mean, like
she's probably my front front runner for goalie of the
Year at the moment, used to facing a ton of shots,
and so yeah, I just think this is sort of
like a really great offense and a really great defense,
you know, sort of hitting each other and we'll see

(50:55):
which way, you know, who's gonna win that push pull.
And that's not to discount Quinnipiack's offense as well, Like
they've got some really great gold Sports may Labad has
been exceptional this year, really stepped into a bigger role
after the graduation and transfer of some players. So it's
not as though Quinnipiac will also be pushing on offense.
But I think based on what we've seen from Renston's

(51:18):
offense the past couple of weeks that it's it's going
to be the defense for for Quinnipiac in the offense
for Princeton, and how Quinnipiac can keep them from you know,
getting set up and holding possession too long, things like that.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Yeah, one thing we want to mention. We may talk
about this more next week and our final show before
the break, but the sixth Nation Tournament happening in Finland
starts on the eleventh. Correct. I believe that said earlier
and I didn't write it down. That's my mistake. In Finland,
just tons of NCAA players going to that, which makes

(51:56):
winter break a little shorter for some of them and
adds some travel and thing like that. But I would
I would imagine that's a pretty quick yes to when
your country says, hey, we want you to play in
a tournament, doesn't matter that it's taking up winter breaker,
having to reschedule final exams or those kind of things.
That's uh, that's a pretty quick yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Well, yes, particularly and we talked a little bit about
this because of the when the US roster was but
this is for both For many of these players, they're
they're not regular senior camp attendees. I mean there are some,
but for many of them, like this is their opportunity
to really shine and prove that they should be getting
invited to camp and should be in consideration. And so
you're talking about sort of like that that cusp group

(52:37):
of players because there are so many women that can
make the national team. So I think even more so
than normal, like getting this opportunity and getting this call
is about like really showing up and showing out and
proving that you know, you've improved in collegiate since you
were you eighteen and in the system those sorts of things,
and really earning your place and getting that call into

(52:58):
camp where you can earn your way into the the
senior team roster. So that I think is the big
thing here. We do know that like you know, KK, Harvey,
Leyla Edwards, Agency Dunn, some of those players that are
regular senior team players are also going to be there.
But I think across the board we're seeing there were
several collegiate players NCAA players that were named to the

(53:19):
Finland roster. I saw Chechia just announced a bunch of
changes because some of the players that won't be able
to leave the p ub that made rosters. So yeah,
just more and more collegians not just from US and Canada,
but across the board being added to the rosters, and so,
as we've said in the past, those games, as far
as I understand when I was told by someone from
USA Hockey is that it's going to be streamed in

(53:42):
Finland and you need a VPN to watch. So as
soon as I hear anything more, if I ever find
a feed, I will be sharing those on social media.
But yeah, hopefully, hopefully we get to watch some of
those because it's a unique group of players playing each other,
and I'm sad we don't know for sure whether or
not we're you.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Get to watch them, right, And the p WHL is
entering into its second week of the season, after starting
last Saturday with a couple of games and then another
one on Sunday to get all six teams going for
the season. What what did what did you I guess
what did we learned from the first weekend of p

(54:20):
WHL season two?

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Did you know Sarah Philly is really good at hockey?
Heard Alex Kurpeter Yether is going to be something to watch.
I know that Carpi already scored again tonight. She's on
pace to have one of those crazy seasons like she
did when she won the Patty and just you know,
outscored everybody in the country by like a couple dozen points.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
But things where you can see how quickly things can
turn around for a team with a really good, you know,
star player added to a group that I already had
some star players.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Yeah, but just wasn't congealing the same way, right, Like, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
We're two games, let's not get too far sure, but
so the.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Way these two have connected in just like a game
and a half has been has been unreal. No. I
think the best thing about it right for me is that, uh,
there's games on all the time, and I just want
people to be like in the US, these games are
on YouTube, so they're very easy to watch. There were
two games on at seven Eastern tonight, but there's a

(55:25):
game scheduled for Friday, Saturday and Sunday and then next
week Tuesday, Wednesday. Oh I'm sorry, No, they have the
break for first six nations, but the seventeenth eighteenth, nineteenth, Like,
there's just constantly women's hockey on and in the US,
at least, it's very easy to watch. In Canada, it
is less easy in that you have to subscribe to
several things because they're swited between TSN, CBC, and now
Amazon Prime. They're also available on ourds, which I am

(55:49):
told is the French language version of TSN more or less.
But in the US it's very easy to pull up
a YouTube link and watch them. So there's that. And
understand that most people have access to CBC and TSN
in Canada, as I'm told by the Canadians. So yeah,
just it's something like ninety percent of those players played

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in the NCAAA, so it's a ton of people that
you're familiar with. We write a lot about this over
at Victory Press, so if there's more that you want
to know, ahead over there or ask questions and we
can write more articles to get people introduced. But yeah,
it's the second season and there's there's a lot of
really good hockey. We already had some overtime games, we
had some you know, late comebacks and surprise upsets, and

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it's just it's amazing that this is just like I
can just pull up at YouTube channel and watch women's
pro hockey pretty much every night of the week.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Yeah, good hockey to watch there, good hockey to wash
an NCAA hockey this weekend, we hope, and we hope
you'll be following along, and we'll be back next week
to pretty much wrap up the first half of the season.
We'll kind of get some perspective on what we've seen
and learned and hopefully have some some interesting nuggets to
share about what's going on in the first couple of

(56:58):
months of the season, and we look forward to talk
to you then, So thanks for joining us on the podcast.
For Nicole Hasey, I'm Todd Mluski. We will talk to
you Max.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Please