Meet Pole Coach and Performer JazzyBee

Pole on the Call — Season 4
Pole Coach and Performer, JazzyBee

In this episode, Cris Rivers & Mændy Mac interview pole coach and performer about her pole dance journey, traveling, and pole community!

BIO:
JazzyBee grew up playing softball and dabbling in other sports throughout college and beyond. She began her pole journey in January 2020 and has enjoyed teaching since 2022. JazzyBee is a self-proclaimed goofball and enjoys teaching all levels and styles, but her own style leans towards acrobatic and artistic tricks and combos. Her teaching and training focus is on building strength and mobility for proper progression for anything from flexibility to powerful tricks to occur safely. Her favorite aspect of pole is the community built around everyone learning to express themselves and cheering on others as they do the same. When she's not doing pole or in the gym, she's working towards her PhD in Immunology or probably outside somewhere.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Hey, hey everyone, I'm excited to be here. We
are Poll on the Call.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
My name is Chris Rivers and I'm Mandy Mack.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yes, and we are here with Poe coach and performer
Jazzy B.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Hello. Thanks for having me. Very excited.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yayually for being here.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Thank you for having me again.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm super excited to learn all about your pole journey
starting at the beginning. What started your poll journey?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, I feel like so earlier today, I was actually
listening to Vaughn's and I think that mine is quite
similar to Vonn's initial start in that like, I also
had sort of a New Year's resolution to just do
the things that I wanted to do. And I guess

(00:56):
a little extra context for that is I had found
a group all on for pole classes and I was
trying to get some of my friends to go with me.
We were a couple of years out of college and
I personally played softball all through college, like played sports
my whole life, So I was trying to find a

(01:17):
way to do something, be active, find a new identity
because when softball ended for me, that at least was
part of my identity that was kind of gone. So
I was trying to get some friends to go to
this pole class with me, and it seemed like people
were kind of dragging their feet on it, maybe not

(01:37):
really ready willing to go, even though they said like, oh,
that sounds so fun, but we could never really find
the time. And then January rolled around and I was
coming back from visiting my family in California and was
just like, Nope, I'm going to do this. I don't
need anyone else to go. I can be independent. And

(02:00):
so I signed up for a class and I had
a blast on the first day, and then signed up
for a second class that was like the next week
and also had a blast. And then because I was
in my first year of graduate school, I got kind
of busy with rotations and trying to find my lab,

(02:23):
so I didn't really take another class for about a
month and a half. I also had gone to New
Orleans for my birthday, and then when I got back
it was March of twenty twenty, by the way, and
I did one more class, and then after that class,

(02:44):
the studio had to close for lockdown, and I was
really sad for a little bit, and then I was like,
you know what, I'm going to see if I can
buy a pole and lo and behold, you're able to
buy a pole very easily online. So I got a POLL,
put it up in my apartment and started taking online
classes with local instructors. And that became my whole life

(03:09):
through spring and summer of twenty twenty and all the
way until now. In different ways and different phases, but
that really I feel like having to be either in
my apartment or running around outside just to get some

(03:30):
fresh air. Really solidified. Poll is a new chapter in
my life because I got to spend so much time
with it right away.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
I love it. One good thing probably the one good
thing about COVID people getting into poll a dancing.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, you really got to have like your own reflection
time to figure out like what was important to you,
what things you enjoy doing? And I don't know, that's
what I tried to take away from it.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Online shopping became huge. You definitely can buy a pole
very easy.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
It's so fun I had no idea beforehand.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Too funny. Did you find that your experience with softball
and when you started transferring over it to POLL, did
you find it helped training discipline wise or anything?

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I think it definitely helped. I was used to literally
from high school, I think being in the gym and
doing strength training. So I think that having that strength
training background all the way from high school into college
where it got more intense, made it so that I

(04:48):
progressed pretty quickly early on. I still had a lot
of learning to do on coordination and flow especially, and
I'm always still learning, but I definitely had a pretty
strong base because of my experiences in athletics and sports
and softball and yeah, I had like a brief stint

(05:13):
when I was in middle school where we did cheer
as well, so I knew I was kind of flexible,
but I didn't really pursue that path, so I didn't
know what like my upper limits were. Now I have
learned that I have some hypermobility, and I think that
a lot of the time that was masked just because

(05:35):
I had sort of experience in strength training that like,
I had kind of the base muscular support to not
experience any issues with my hypermobility. But now that I
am pushing my limits more and more I can I'm
starting to notice where my limitations are that are at

(05:56):
least partially due to hypermobility. So softball and sports definitely
helped with like having experience with strength training and kind
of understanding a bit of the appropriate reception of pole,
but I still had a lot more to go for sure,
and always still do.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
I love that that's like the part that I'm missing
that strong foundation because I am also hyper mobile and
I'm just a floppy noodle. Do you have any tips
for like that carried over that you still do that
you can offer for any of us that are also
floppy noodles.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
For floppy noodles, I don't know. I feel like I
never had the like complete floppy noodle experience, but working
with coaches now where I find that, oh, I really
am not using the right muscles here. I find that
for me, I like have a hard time with push

(07:00):
in my right arm. I'm used to pulling with that
arm rather than pushing. And part of the reason is
because like I kind of just like can get really
extended and that's it, and my muscles aren't really doing anything.
It's just because there's more mobility in my joints. So
I've started trying to like take it really slow and

(07:22):
feel and at least like put my hands where I
need to feel muscle engagement to try and I guess
acknowledge where I should be feeling my body actually doing
something as opposed to just kind of like throwing myself
into things. I think though, generally a tip would be

(07:48):
to start small in the gym and find a way
to get yourself in there. It can be really scary
at first, especially if you're going alone. So I either
start small if you're going by yourself, or find a
buddy to go together with. Pick just a few exercises
that are like compound exercises to start, and yeah, start small,

(08:16):
and then it's actually really fun to see yourself progress
as you spend more and more time in the gym too.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well, thank you for that advice that you just made
me feel good about, because I just started going back
to the gym and I started at like, no weights,
just let's feel what this feels like, and it's been
so eye opening, So thank you for Yay. Yes, right,
I was like, I can be strong too, but yeah,

(08:46):
it'll take a little time. Right, How long into your
pulled An's journey before you knew that you wanted to
be a coach?

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, I so, I think I was about a year
and a half or almost two years in when I
was like in a class at one point and the
instructor was like, have you thought about teaching, Like we
have a teacher training program, you should think about it.
And I was like, no, I'm not doing that. I

(09:20):
don't know. I don't know enough. I'm not ready for that.
I don't I don't feel like I can like be
someone else's coach. Did you not just see me like
fall out of that in like the most uncoordinated way.
So I was kind of reluctant at first, mostly because yeah,
I think I wasn't I didn't necessarily have the confidence.

(09:41):
And I consider myself also an introverted person. I can
hid hide the introvertedness and be more of an extrovert,
but I definitely consider myself more of an introverted person.
So it took me a little while. I was as
I was like getting more into poll and how having
fun with the other people in class that I was

(10:02):
seeing more frequently with the instructors. I wanted to get
more involved in the community. And then I think I
got to a point where I was like, Okay, I
want to be in the studio. I want to spend
more time with these people. There wasn't really another way
to be involved in terms of like some studios have

(10:22):
like desk managers or social media managers, and that wasn't
really an option at the time. So I decided, Okay,
I will do this teacher training and if it works out,
it works out. If not, that's okay, and I can
try again later. It just wasn't the right time, And

(10:44):
this was also good timing because I was like, if
I want to spend more time on POLL, I also
need to subsidize this lobby some way. And I do
not condone pull instructing being entirely motivated by financial but
it definitely helps. So I don't think that that should
ever be anyone's main motivation for teaching other people. You

(11:07):
have to actually really enjoy teaching and want to lay
that foundation for yourself to be a good teacher, and
then for lay the foundation for others to progress safely
in their pole journeys and encourage them and have a
good time and whatnot. But yeah, so I felt like
I was a little on the early side for when

(11:30):
you should become an instructor, but I knew that I
would still take it very seriously, and I think that
that has stayed true. I hope my students feel that
way as well. So yeah, kind of early about two
years in to my pole journey. So I've been teaching

(11:50):
for almost three years now.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, I love that. I mean, you're right, it shouldn't
be only about money because it requires so much education
and continuing learning to serve the different communities, body types
and learning styles. And you have to definitely really enjoy teaching.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Absolutely absolutely, and I do. And like I knew that
I liked teaching because I like have been a mentor
for various types of things I teach people at my school.
I was always like a ta or tutor beforehand, So
I do love teaching and helping people to understand things

(12:33):
or explore their own curiosities, that kind of stuff. So
I knew that like that kind of thing would translate.
I just wasn't yet confident in my ability to do
that in the context of poll But that quickly sort
of developed and took training courses, learning online, learning from

(12:57):
other instructors in person, always trying to add to the
repertoire I have, like textbooks and stuff on biomechanics. Now
it's been super fun to continue learning being a lifelong student.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yes, one hundred per nerding out.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Absolutely absolutely, I'm a nerd in always.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Right, Like, I didn't know how much I liked physics
before Poldion's thing.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
It's actually really cool. This is super nerdy. But I
was just telling my partner earlier that I missed taking
engineering classes, and I for the past couple of days
have been thinking about foury A transforms and how I
miss knowing how to do them. I haven't had to
use them in forever, so I don't really remember how

(13:49):
to do any of it, but I remember enjoying that
part of my signal transduction class and wanting to revisit ITMG.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
That's the worst. So when you get to do like
fun things in school and learn about these things and
then you don't even use them in the world, and
do you forget about them?

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, lost a lot of knowledge since not applying it,
which like translates to everything that we do, right, Like,
if you're not using it, you're gonna lose it.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, it's sad.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Right, If you don't practice a pulse it, it's gonna hurt.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Next time you do it, it's gonna hurt.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Oh. What what is your favorite style of pole dancing.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
So hard.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
That's so hard. I feel like it really goes in waves,
because yeah, you could, it goes in waves. You try
something and then you start to explore more and then
you're like, ooh, I really like this. I'm gonna spend
some time on it, and then something else pops up
and you're like, ooh, I'm really into that for me

(15:03):
at least right now, And probably what's been the most
consistent for me is acrobatic pole and static pole. So
I really like doing handstands and things that are low
on the pole and upside down. I am really wanting
to love and be good at static rotation. I love

(15:26):
watching static rotation. Am I proficient at it? Not that proficient,
but it is a goal that I have and would
like to continue to pursue, which kind of flows into
the like acrobatic static pole, So that's kind of I

(15:47):
would say that that's my favorite. But I like flowy
spin pole. I like, I don't know, power pole. I've
been kind of like toning down on the power pole
right now just to make sure that my shoulders are already.
But yeah, definitely more of a static than a spin
pole person. But there's a time and a place for

(16:08):
both of them. And then I'm really trying to get
into my heels era. You can see my heels back here.
I'm really trying to make that happen, to get more
flowy and have some fun with the ankle weights.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Your heels. Your heels era is going to be awesome
once you start edited to the acrobats and everything. I
love it, And you're right.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Stuff so hard. It's so hard and it's so painful.
I didn't realize that. I took a static rotation workshop
once and I was like, my skin was just gone.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
It's interesting, even the grip like and the way you
have to grip in order to get that rotation and stuff.
I was like, this is fascinatingly hard.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
It's so hard. If you're a little sweaty. See yea, goodbye,
you're not staying up there.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yes, And I totally respect the fact of you listening
to your shoulders for the power pole, because I'm a
huge powerful power pole fanatic. I love it, but sometimes
like the shoulders just it's not happening.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, you got to take care of them, especially if
you have one side that is dominant, because then you
can really exacerbate the exhaustion on one side and get
the injury way too quickly.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Okay, the things we want to do and it is
too much. Yes, And it's good for the listeners and
viewers to know it's okay to go in waves. You
do not have to like just one style of po.
You'll go through errors.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Right because we're all in this forever.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Okay, you must change, but there will always be pull.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yes, I agree, and like, yeah, I think something that's
important to me is something that I try to like
stress in like my classes too, is we want to
we want to be able to do this for a
long time. We want longevity, so we have to like
listen to our body. We have to prepare it properly
for anything that we want to do, and we have
to like properly progress through things so that we're not

(18:25):
just going to go straight to injury. Yeah, we want
to be doing this for a long time, So listen
to your body. Take it in waves.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
I think the hardest thing for me, and I don't
know if you've started seeing this yet, Jazzy is the
age thing realizing I am in my mid thirties, I
am no longer in my mid twenties early twenties. I
cannot do what I used to, so it's been hard

(18:56):
to readjust to like you said that long jevity. We
want to do it forever and I can't be doing
the ship I used to do, right.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Chrissy, I want to comment about that too, like I
see that, but I think the like going in waves,
like going back to maybe something else, and like revisiting basics.
That's kind of what's helping me keep the longevity for now.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
You'll keep it for a long time.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Ye, yes, yes, so far, so good. But what what
classes do you teach.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
So right now? I am teaching mostly on Saturdays. I
teach in acro pole class. Acrobatic Pole Class, we work
on our handstands, we do some low poll and floor
based combos, and then I teach in Artistic poll Choreo class,

(19:59):
which than it being choreo that I make up each week,
it's kind of like a guided freestyle class where we
have each week a different theme that's related to creating
your own art, creating your own choreo. So maybe one
week will be about shapes and lines, another week will

(20:22):
be about contrasts, so big versus small, fast versus slow.
Another one would be about energy, and we'll kind of
like have some group discussions around the topic. We will
do some exercises that are either solo or partner exercises

(20:43):
to practice playing with whatever that week's theme is. And
then I'll give some prompted freestyle opportunities where I'll maybe
say a word or phrase or ask a question while
people are dancing to a particular song and however they
interpret that then feeds into their movement, and then we

(21:05):
do a little reflecting and a non prompted freestyle at
the end of that class.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
These classes are Saturday morning.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Saturday afternoon, Saturday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
I'm going to definitely try to make it to those.
Those sound amazing and exactly what I need.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Com Yes, please, we have a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Do you teach online yet or is it in the works.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
It is definitely in the works. I now have the
second room in my apartment set up with my poll,
so I want to start teaching online for flexibility classes
privates if people want that, and then maybe some sort

(21:48):
of like handstandy type class as well. Definitely really wanting
to incorporate the flexibility classes because that is another type
of class that I really enjoyed teaching and I miss
teaching it, so I want to add it back into
the schedule. Just finding the right place for it right now.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yes, that's excited. I love flexibility classes. They were one
of my favorite take and teach too.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, sometimes you just need someone to like push you
and like tell you what to do so you don't
have to think about it yourself.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
So you're because, like, let's talk about this. Why can't
we keep flex classes on the schedule. I want to
take flex.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
No, I think people do want to take flex It's
just at least right now at my studio schedule, there
are quite a few flex classes and so there was
more of a need for the other more niche classes
that I'm doing, which are accurate, artsy And I'm not
mad because having the rest of my Saturday open is fun.

(22:59):
This past week and though I taught from ten am
to five pm, which was a lot but very fun
and I got to teach different classes too. But yeah,
we'll add some flexi classes into the rotation. And I
think online flex is good because you can do that
from anywhere, don't necessarily need a pull.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, I found at least at our studio the reason
why I was like, wait a second, you have trouble
getting with the flex classes? Are students? They don't come
to our flex classes, So.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, it could be maybe they who class is more popular.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Everyone just wants to pull.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Maybe they don't like my flex classes or.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Mine or anyone.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
I'm sure that's not true. I'm sure that's not true.
They're probably like I could see it getting discouraging for
students if they feel like they're not making progress with
each week and right, or it's just scary to take
that first sleep, if you're like just told yourself already,
oh I'm not flexible enough, like it's not going to

(24:09):
be worth it for me to go, which is like,
not true. It's always worth it, even if you're not
getting into the splits within one day or even one year, Like,
it's still worth it to prepare your body for the
other stuff you want to do.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Right, and also for all like the muscle building that
we do, we need to like stretch because stretching helps relax.
We can't just keep building up so much tension. So
thank you for these tips. I'm going to play them
for our students.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
You could try offering the online flex classes. Maybe people
will be more comfortable doing it from their homes instead
of at the studio.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Right, that's true. That's a good idea. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah you late at night. Maybe we have to bring
it back late at night, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Before bed relaxation, get your body ready for bed. That
sounds very nice, right.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
See, I would like that too.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
I would love to teach more flex classes like it was.
It wasn't until I started posts. Seriously, I've been doing
yoga even longer and my flexibility never really increased that
much of passive stretching until I learned about active stretching
and strength building with flexibility.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah, yep, it is all about the active flex If
you're trying to do a jade, got to have active
flexibility to get it nice and straight. Not that in
not straight jade is not great, because those are still great.
It's just if your goal is to get it flat,
need to have the active flex And yeah, you'll see
a lot more progress.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
That way, Yes you will. Any Who, when did you
start making the transition to performing and competing?

Speaker 3 (26:00):
In my first competition, which was also my first performance
and my first time performing any dance thing solo, I
had done cheer like I mentioned back when I was
in middle school, and I had like one semester in

(26:21):
college where I was in or dance troupe and did
a few but those were nothing Solow That was virtual
pso Taurus in twenty twenty one, so I was about
one year one and a half years into poll almost
and it was really nerve racking and really scary to

(26:44):
come up with something on my own and share it
with everyone, especially considering I felt like I was putting
a lot of my own emotion into it. And I
got I was I think dramatic level three and there
were four people in my category and I got third place.

(27:08):
So I was like, Okay, cucker cool. And I took
kind of a long break from it because I realized
that it was really stressful to me to lay my
soul bear like that. It was definitely a good exercise
to think about how to build a performance, how to

(27:32):
build combos, pick a song, and I had some really
good guidance from other instructors and peers on like getting
feedback on things. But I do think that the nerves
really got to me at the time when I was
more of a baby polar and they still get to you.
But I was feeling it very intensely at that time,

(27:58):
but I shared the link in the video with friends
and family and everyone was so supportive that it made
it feel even more worth it. So that was like,
it was really nice to have a positive response to
seeing me try this thing that I had gotten really
into over lockdown period. And then I took a break

(28:23):
and the next time I performed for people was in
Oh Okay, okay, sorry, at a showcase for the studio.
Well it was more like a party than a showcase

(28:44):
because there were multiple performers going at the same time,
so it felt kind of relaxed because I was not
the only person up, but there were definitely a lot
of people watching. And that was the first time that
I was performing something live. It was more freestyle, so
I didn't really prepare something ahead of time, just kind

(29:04):
of listen to my body, did what I could what
felt like I wouldn't fall. And that was in twenty
twenty three, and then I told myself that I was
going to try PSO again and I was going to
try it in person. So I as soon as PSO
Northeast opened up for comper registration, I signed up. I

(29:32):
think that it opens in like May for our November one,
and I literally signed up the day that I saw
the announcement so that I could not back out from there.
That was me saying, Okay, I'm doing this. I know
I'm going to be nervous about it. We're just going
to sign up right now. So I signed up, and
then I started working with a coach in like July

(29:56):
of twenty twenty three to prepare for it. I had
also started see some friends performing in local shows like
cabaret and burlesque shows, and I was really intrigued by
that because I wanted to have more friends come to

(30:17):
hang out and see kind of see the world that
I really love and adore, and potentially even see me
be a part of it. So I looked into auditioning
or signing up to be a part of a show.
And I got to be a part of a show
called Sinner's Paradise put on by Nista Hart Studios at

(30:39):
the time was the name, and that was in September
twenty twenty three, so it kind of coincided with PSO training.
So I performed in that show, and that is what
I would say is my first like live stage performance.
I was super nervous, but it was really fun. I
remember stressing out about my a couple of combos that

(31:04):
I had planned like a few days beforehand, and then
I was like, you know what, whatever happens happens. And
I had actually not long before that in my PSO
training hurt my hip flexor training a trick for that,
so I was also worried about that. But it went

(31:25):
really well. I had a great time, and I think
the audience enjoyed it. So it was really fun and
I highly recommend performing to anyone that is interested in it,
whether that's in your local studio showcase, which are super
low key and I supposed to be a fun opportunity

(31:45):
to show your own progress or something where there are
tickets sold.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Or.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Competing as well. You can compete in regional competitions, you
can go to the competitions, and can in the showcase.
All of those opportunities are available and super worthwhile if
you're at all interested. You don't have to be interested
to be a valid polar. You can totally stay as

(32:13):
a student. You can just do it as a hobby,
you can just do it as an instructor, like whatever
you choose is fine. But if you're interested in it,
definitely take the leap and try it at least once
so you can get to know about it. And then
I came back to PSO and was I think more
than from this time around, having known how anxious and

(32:40):
stressed out I got about it the first time around,
I think I took it a little bit more at
my own pace when it came to the cadence of
practicing and how I talked about preparation with other people
and what sort of rituals I would come up with

(33:05):
for myself prior to competing, because I really think the
psychological part of competition is the hardest part. The training
is kind of something you just have to do to
be prepared, but the psychological part you can try to
prepare yourself, but something could happen at any moment that

(33:26):
just like knocks you off your rocker. So that is
definitely the hard part. And we got to PSO. I
did my piece. I was definitely really nervous leading up
to it, jumping around. I do these things that I

(33:47):
call like my nervous hops. I look like a little
bunny energizer bunny anytime I'm like scared of something, which
I get really scared doing like flips and stuff on
the pole, so I'll always end up like hopping for
a while after i'm trying something. And this time I
was hopping before I was doing something which was going
to get on stage for the performance, and I think

(34:12):
I blacked out on stage. I literally think I blacked out.
I don't remember what happened. I just know that in
the first few seconds I messed up my routine, like
I did the wrong thing, and I just had to
kind of like play it off, and then I was
off stage. Basically, I don't remember what happened in the middle.

(34:35):
Apparently I survived. I thought I was about to puke.
I started crying. I think that the other people who
were backstage were like, you were so good, Oh my god,
that was great, like everyone being super supportive, and I
was like, I'm so sorry, I'm crying right now. Thank
you for supporting me. You're gonna do awesome, kick ass

(34:56):
out there, good grip. I'm gonna go maybe to the
bath root. Yeah, I feel like I was once again,
maybe this is not the right strap, but I really
feel like when I'm putting a performance together, I try

(35:16):
to like think about what state of mind I've been
in recently, what experiences I've had that I would like
to convey in my dance in my performance. And that
was a performance that came after a really stressful time

(35:39):
for me in school and in life. So I was
truly like bearing my soul. I know I already said
that with the last one, but this time I think
I like turned it up a notch further to really
share what I had been feeling. And so I think
I definitely right after the performance was like feel the

(36:00):
weight of like, Okay, I put that all out there,
and now someone's gonna judge me on that. Ah, that's
so scary. But yeah, I ended up winning, so that
it was cool. I was not expecting that there were
some really great artists in my category, and I am

(36:26):
grateful to have been on stage the same stage as them.
The people that I shared the podium with were incredible people. Yeah,
I was not expecting that. It was just kind of
like an added plus and kind of validating to know
that not that like I accomplished all the moves that

(36:49):
I did or anything like that, but that the message
that I was trying to share got across at least. Yeah,
and then after that I was like, Okay, performing is
just going to be fun now on So I did
another like cabaret show and showcase, and I'm now kind

(37:12):
of just chilling though. I will be performing at poll
Con in the Creepy Showcase, so a little different style
from what I've done in the past, but I'm excited.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah, Oh my goodness, so much experience. I love it, Poe.
Competition is a lot of emotions, so I do not
blame you for having those emotions getting off of stage
and congrats on the wind.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah that was a little while ago now, so it
feels like like old but I have I will probably
compete again at some point in my life, but I'm
not in a rush to do it. I feel like
I have to give myself more and more time between
each competition.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Enrollment understand, I can't believe it's gone by so fast.
Two years already.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Well right, I've almost Yeah, yeah, now you're a PSO unicorn.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Everyone sign up for PSO happy to answer questions and
it doesn't have to be as stressful as it was
for me.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
I love it. I love What would you say is
the biggest difference? I mean, obviously there's quite a few
differences both virtual and real life competition. For those who
might want to dip their toes in PSO but are
not sure yet, I.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Think virtual is a good way to get started because
you have as many tries as you want to record it.
I do think, though, that that is a dangerous game
to play because we are our biggest critics, and you
might never feel satisfied with the video that you come
out with, so it almost I almost want to flip

(39:00):
my answer and say, like, do the stage performance first,
so you know that you will survive even if not
everything goes perfectly well. On stage, you will have probably
more nerves ahead of time because there's a live audience.
But the added like support that you get from hearing
audience screams is so uplifting and you get one and done.

(39:24):
After you're done, like that's it, and you're like sweet, cool,
whatever happens happens from here, or you could stress out
about it, but go give your give your people a hug,
go get a snack, drink some water, and let whatever
happens happen versus like, yeah, the virtual one. You have

(39:48):
all these chances, So if that's something that would make
you feel better, I think that that's a good place
to start. Yeah, I think that they offer kind of
opportunities for people who might have different like questions or

(40:08):
anxieties about performing. If you're really into having audience feedback,
then live performing live competition is definitely for you. If
you want to share it far and wide, or if
you want ample opportunity to revise and refine your performance,
then virtual would be a good option.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yes, thank you for sharing that. And I'm excited to
see your weepy po piece for po Coon. We need
more horror stuff. I'm like big horror, Like I want
to see the blood and gore and all of it.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Oh my god, there's not going to be any gore
in mind, but hopefully it's a little creepy.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yay. That's exciting.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Still, so you'll be there.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Not a pocon unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Not this year. We'll try again next year.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
There's also going to be a pocon West this year.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Oh interesting, hokon West, So that means California ish.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
I think they're doing it in Denver. But yeah, there's
going to be slightly different showcase categories and makes it
a little more accessible to people on the other side
of the country. For sure. That one is going to
be I think in September. That's cool, but I'm not
going to be there, But it's.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Cool that they're expanding that's even farther.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Yeah, I know, I really wanted to go this year,
but unfortunately it's not going to happen, right.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
I like that they have this scholarship program available, yeah,
because that's really my barrier.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Yeah, yeah, I yeah, I if I think I didn't
know about the scholarship program before. I kind of just
had to like budget hard to make this happen this
time around. Yeah. I think it's really nice to see
studios and organizations trying to make whole training, performing learning,

(42:25):
and teaching more accessible as a whole. I feel like
our transition to having more online resources has been really
helpful and making things more accessible to people, but it
doesn't it sometimes doesn't compare to the in person component
where you get to not only do the learning and stuff,
but be a part of the community in person. So

(42:50):
it's nice that they're doing.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Something like that, and no, that was our biggest goal
this year.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
And you guys are also like contributing to the accessibility
in the community with having this podcast. I feel like
it helps people to kind of get a sense for
the different journeys and feel like they got to meet
more people. So thank you for putting this together.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Truly our pleasure. We love sharing stories, and I mean,
there's so much talent out there and we just want
to share you all.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Everyone's got their like you said, their unique story and
and like, I've learned so much from everyone just talking right,
I've already learned so much this episode from you, Jasey.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
I don't know, I didn't really teach anything. It's fine,
you'll be something bad. It helped.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Now is to learn about your favorite poll trick.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
So I have I think a love hate relationship with Geniro.
Geniro is a move that I learned fairly early in
my pole journey because I have a pretty bendy back
and at the time just had kind of strength from softball,

(44:23):
and then I also had I have a bit of
rock climbing experience as well, so that was something I
got early on and was like, oh my god, I
need to figure out all the different variations of Genio
that I can do all the entries and exits, and
I loved it. I was like doing Genio splits and
all this stuff. I put it. I tried to put

(44:45):
it in every routine that I could ever come up with,
and then after I injured my hip flexer, I like
was not really able to do it. I I wasn't
training it for a while as part of it, so
the muscle memory just wasn't there because I was focusing

(45:05):
on other tricks. But that, combined with the hip flexer,
made it very challenging for me for a while. And
then because it was challenging physically, it became challenging mentally
and I was developing like a mental block around it
because I wanted it so badly, but it wasn't working

(45:26):
and I didn't know what was going on. And then
I set it aside and trying to rebuild my love
for Janeiro by getting back to the basics, really trying
to make sure that I understand the mechanics behind the
trick and what I actually need to do to get

(45:48):
there on my own and hold it stably so then
I can hopefully once again progress towards some of the
variations that I enjoyed, like the split and trying different entries.
So that's my favorite move, though I can't say that
it's something that I'm doing a lot at the moment.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
That's funny. We just had a discussion about Gennaro about
and also about hip placement and Gennaro because it is
a thing like I think that's why I keep falling
out of it.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Yeah, if you're not like getting on the right part
of your elbow, good luck slip right off.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah, it's hard.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
I can't wait to see when you get in it again,
though you're going to get it.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
See, I'm trying my best.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
That's all we can do.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
You're so right, so true.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Do you have a pole nemesis?

Speaker 3 (46:53):
My pole nemesis? I have two? Iguana. I don't like iguana.
I haven't tried iguana in a long time, so I
don't even know if I can do it anymore. But
I don't like it. And Marry and Amber, I feel
like my lower half is so heavy that it's hard

(47:15):
for me to get my butt up on top of
my shoulders when I'm already like relying on my knee hook.
So yeah, that one is another one. And it's scary,
like taking the leg off the pole, Oh my god,
so scary. But that one I did recently, and I

(47:36):
was I was very afraid the whole time. But I
didn't fall, which is a wind.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
That merrit amber. That one gave me quite a few
hearts to my ass moments.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Right, it's scary, and some people just get up there
so easily. They're like going from a jasmine or from
a cupid or I don't know, jumping into it.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
And I'm like, uh, I found like releasing the knee
like painful on the leg. I don't know why, Like
straightening that, it made no sense.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
It's so scary. My leg like shakes as I'm taking
it off because it doesn't want to go. It's like no, no, no, no, no,
I'm supposed to be on the pole. Oh we're constantly
battling our fears in Yeah, that.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
One is like tricky, Like I could do a butterfly,
so I could definitely do that. And it is not
the same.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
It is not the same. I don't know. The position
is different.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Yes, your butt is like oh it's yeah, your butt
is in a different place.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
But I'm also.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
Maybe it's a hyper mobile thing.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Right, every anything that's behind me, I'm like, uh.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
I'm like scared, I'm gonna lose an arm, Like my
whole arm is gonna Yeah, just take it.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yes, yeah, I like this. I like descending into it,
but the raising into it, yeah no, there's no.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Way I could raise into that. But it might feel
better if I was strong enough to raise up into it. Yeah,
the coming down is just so scary.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
No, thank no, I'm like staring at my pole now, Like,
do I try iguana.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Later after a nice warm up?

Speaker 3 (49:36):
It's been so long?

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Maybe my gosh. I want to circle back though, because
you keep bringing up in like your uh performance and
everything about the mental part of it, and that's so true,
and especially for us hypermobile people, I feel like we
have to do a lot of like calming of our

(49:59):
nervous system so that we can like do the thing.
Do you have any tips for the mental part of
pole dancing and performance and competition and in general?

Speaker 3 (50:14):
I guess I can have some general tips the mental aspect.
I really feel like as far as getting myself into
a more steady mental state, I take from my experiences
in softball, where each player kind of comes up with

(50:35):
their own ritual when they're walking up to the batter's box,
and I have my own sort of ritual where I
would like tap different parts of the box. I would
spend my bat a couple times and then like inhale
and deep exhale, and then like get into the zone
where I was looking directly at where the ball was

(50:55):
going to come from. And that was sort of my
ritual as I was getting into the box. There are
other components of the ritual that would come up in
different parts, like even before I'm walking up or when
I'm getting ready, Like every softball player, baseball player is
a little we like to say we're a little stitious.
We're not superstitious. We're just a little stitious, where like

(51:16):
you'll have an order to things. Maybe we're just all OCD,
but you'll have an order to things, like you can
only put on I don't know, everyone is different, but
you have to put on your socks in a certain order,
and then your shoes and whatever. Each person's different, but
you kind of come up with your own ritual that

(51:38):
helps you to solidify your headspace and focus in on
what's in front of you. And I feel like having
had practice with that probably helped me to get through
the more mentally tough parts when it came to performing

(52:00):
for pole or other things. Definitely didn't do it as
effectively with pole because it's a different environment, not everyone
is necessarily doing the same thing, but I would highly
recommend finding your ritual. Maybe you know that you need
to eat a certain number of hours before and then

(52:23):
you want to check your costume a certain number of times,
check your makeup a certain number of times, and sit
in silence. I don't know. For me, I tried to
like just make sure I had my own space prior
to going up, so I would either sit in the

(52:45):
what was the room called at PSO where all the
competitors go just for him, just the dressing room. I
thought I had a different name, but yeah, the dressing
room and just kind of sit there. And then what
actually I ended up being really helpful was all the
other people who were competing in there were just like
talking to each other and kind of just being really friendly,

(53:08):
and that made it feel less scary. And then before
I was going on just trying to settle my thoughts,
and then I had to do my bunny hops for
a while to really get in the zone and shake
it out sort of. And as I walk up onto stage,

(53:35):
the guy who gives everyone hugs and supports everyone and
gives them nice words of affirmation beforehand really helps and
then you're like, okay, now time to get in the
zone and then you can black out and it's fine.
But I do think that should I do it again,
I would be more intentional about developing a ritual that

(53:57):
i'd want to keep four whole competition or pole performing
in general. The softball ritual took me like years to
figure out for myself, so I think offering myself grace
and it's okay that I don't have a ritual yet,
but figuring out what would work to call my nerves

(54:19):
and get me into the competition or performance headspace is
something that would probably be helpful.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
I love that, Thank you for sharing that. I just
like thinking about my own experience and like, I've been
on stage for like twenty years and I literally don't
do any of that, And that sounds really good to me,
like something you can control before, like because you can't
control what's about to happen.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
I love that you said that, because that is literally
like how our coaches would talk to us. They would
anytime someone would get stressed out about something that like happened,
they would say, control the controllables. That's not something you
can control. The controllables are your attitude and your effort,
and that's pretty much it. And so just control those things.

(55:11):
And if there's a little ritual that helps you to
get into that headspace, all the better.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Yes, cheers to rituals. I know I have a rituals.
I have this thing that like, I feel like I'm sweaty,
so I feel comfortable like reapplying grip all over, like
the ten minutes spack or something. I keep gripping up
my knees, my shoulders, my hands. It's pretty bad, like

(55:40):
I could go through half a bottom before I even
go on.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
That's super common though. I feel like like in even
just a class, before you're attempting something, people kind of
have little mini rituals where they're they're putting grip on
or wiping the pole down and they feel like they
have to do it every time, And so taking that
and translating it to performing is great. And yeah, I

(56:07):
don't want to be too slippery on the pole.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
And just have fun. I noticed that's a big one too,
Like if you're doing it to win, it kind of
takes the fun out. If you're doing it to like say, hey,
I'm here to perform and give you a show, then
it's such a different experience absolutely.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Right, because you could be on stage like like what
Chazzi's doing and bearing her soul. I sound so silly, No,
I like as like, to be so vulnerable on stage
is something that I always want to do and I
think I always like try to do it and then
I cheat myself. So thank you for being able to

(56:50):
do that and you.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Can do it. It's scary, for sure, have a bucket ready.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Right, but it is so like transformative just to like
because you talked about like the energies that you were
feeling before your performance and you just kind of like
let that out and that's such an important way to
experience art and pull dancing and cathartic for the audience too,

(57:22):
like for everyone. It's better for everyone.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Yeah, I hope that it just like comes across. I
think that was my biggest worry is that like I'm
gonna do this and people are gonna be like, what
is that about?

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Right? I think that's what my biggest fear is as well.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Yeah, well someone.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
But honestly, it doesn't matter if they do feel that way,
like it's just it's true, it's your.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Moment that's true.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
You get a comment like that. So I survived this,
so you will too. Like I had to understand it,
like what was going think? I was like, oh, I'm sorry,
Oh no, AnyWho, So how do you cross train? I
know you mentioned that you do the gym, and prior

(58:14):
to the interview you mentioned something else.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Yeah. Yeah, I try to go to the gym with
regular frequency. I'm trying to get more regular, but traveling
and stuff ends up kind of getting in the way.
But I try to do some daily mobility work either
in the morning or sort of midday after working for

(58:40):
a little while, And recently I have started going to
a circus studio to train contortion. This it was like
mostly out of curiosity to see, like, one, how is
contortion different from like the flexibility that we train. And

(59:04):
also the curiosity kind of came from me trying to
learn about flexibility training. I came across several contortion coaches online,
took some sort of online learning with them, and then
wanted to start learning in person and finally finally got
the opportunity, largely in part to New England. Black Circus

(59:29):
is an organization that gives scholarships to individuals interested in
circus training from minority backgrounds. So I applied to their
scholarship and was able to get a partial scholarship for
the classes that I'm taking at ESH Circus in Summerville,

(59:53):
which is super helpful and definitely made it a lot
more accessible for me. I probably wouldn't be doing the
in person training otherwise just from my own budget perspective.
So that's been really helpful and it's been really fun.
We like alternate between back and shoulder flexibility and then
splits flexibility. And the first week that we did splits flexibility,

(01:00:17):
I was like this close to my middle splits, which
has never happened for me before. I was convinced my
hips don't open that way. And then the coach was like,
can I push down on your hips? And I said
no because I was really scared. But I was like,
this close to being on the floor for my middle splits.
It has to come, It has to come. It hasn't
happened yet, but I think this year is the year.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Yeah, it's twenty five for flexibility.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Yeah, and did you so, yeah, those are go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Did you see any differences between contortion and the and
like what we do, like the act of flexibility. I know,
I feel like it's more hands on. I think that's
why I kind of stay away from it as well,
But maybe it's necessary.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
I do think, Yeah, we end up doing more partner
assisted I guess, trying to identify your end range passive flexibility.
We still do lots of active flexibility, especially in the
beginning to get our muscles and joints ready, but then

(01:01:29):
we'll do some partner assisted stuff to try to reach
those deeper end ranges in our joints that you might
not be able to get to just with your active
and then trying to kind of find active tension once
you have gotten to a deeper passive zone. So I

(01:01:53):
think that it's it's really nice because I'm learning a
lot of exercises that I think would translate really well
well that are either partner or solo exercises that would
that would translate really well to pole training. But I
do feel like I have to be careful because depending
on the skill that you're training for contortion, it will

(01:02:16):
look very different from what you might see as a
similar skill for pole.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Yeah, good to know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
I'm tying to take a contortion class that sounds like fun.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
They are super fun. Yeah, you're like, I didn't know
I could bend that way. My arms are so tired today.
I was doing some like bridges and then trying to
do push ups to touch my nose to the ground,
and I think my shoulders are just like tired from that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
That sounds so scary. My face would just eat it,
but I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Sure mine has no It's so okay though. That's just
how it goes what we learn exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Well, back to pol do you have any hand and
body grip that you use for Poldian sin?

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
I mostly use dry hands, but honestly, I feel like
more often than grip, I'm just using the towel with
the ethanol. H Yeah, I feel like more. My problem
is more often that my skin is too dry than

(01:03:45):
too sweaty, so there's not a ton of moisture to
absorb unless it's like the heat of the summer and
superhumid in a way where I stop being sticky and
I start actually being slippery. But you usually the heat
the humidity helps me to just be sticky, and I
like that. I like that sensation for pole, so I

(01:04:09):
don't use too much grip. I feel like I still
have the same not bottle but pack of bottles that
I started with.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
No way even for like power pole and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Yeah, I haven't. I don't run through that much grip.
I feel like I use the alcohol more often, which
probably contributes to me having too much drynax.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
But yeah, yeah, I can see that sometimes the alcohol
definitely helps for sure, or like don soap.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Never tried that, oh right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Because it gets all like oils off.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Okay, okay, we'll consider right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
And somebody else said shaving cream, which I haven't tried yet.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
I have tried the shaving cre might have to get
back to it. I don't know. I've been having a
struggle with grip. One of the lucky ones Jazzy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Right, I'm the unicorn pulled answer.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
I'm kind of jealous though. I feel like everyone figures out,
like what's their favorite grip, and I'm like, I just
use the first thing that's someone handed to me. I don't.
I feel like I I that's a new dimension of
knowledge that I should probably acquire to be able to
like recommend things to other people or have an opinion
at the very least. But yeah, just I'm just not

(01:05:32):
as knowledgeable.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
If it works, though, like, why would you go anywhere else?

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
I know mine I'm changing every season.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
Every year, you're just testing the products.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
My skin keeps changing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Yeah, that's the other thing. Our seasons really dictate how
our skin feels.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Yes, yes, our age. But do you have anything upcoming
that's fun that you want to let everyone know about?

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Pull Con I mentioned it already. I'm very excited to
be performing in the Creepy Showcase. If anyone is there
in person, I'll be there the whole weekend, So come
say hi, let's hang out. I personally love the Pole
community and think that that's like my favorite aspect of it,

(01:06:35):
So would love to meet more people, talk in person,
learn about you, and go from there. Kind Of on
that topic, what I'm hoping to have come up is
putting on some community events. I like to on occasion

(01:06:56):
do either fundraiser or community poll classes is at local studios.
Might try to find a way to do like an
online fundraiser class. I think that, once again, our community
is one of the best parts of poll. It started,
at least for me as an individual journey and very

(01:07:17):
quickly became a collective experience, and I think that has
kept me so engaged and excited about poll. So yeah,
trying to put together more opportunities for people to be
in the same space and kind of share their joy

(01:07:40):
around Pole with one another, whether we're on the poll
or not, or just in each other's presence, that kind
of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
And if you want to reach out to her, we'll
have all her links and social media and the comments,
the captions, the notes. But oh yes, I will say
the POE industry, like the community is pretty amazing for
the most part. Everybody's from the because you know, there's
always a few odd boss, but it's always very encouraging

(01:08:16):
and there's so much to learn, so many people to meet,
so many places to visit.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Yeah. Yeah, we definitely can't like speak for everyone, but
at least I feel pretty privileged in my experience to
have met such incredible people, people who I really look
up to, whether they're instructors or other students, people who
become my really close friends. It's I am not from here,

(01:08:47):
and pol is really my home away from home. And
also with travel, it becomes a way for you to
find community no matter where you are. There are more
and more studios popping up everywhere. We have a vibrant
online community. So it makes it much easier to kind

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of find your way in an unfamiliar place when we
have this the shared experience.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
So yeah, it sure does. I love it. I just
want to visit all the studios, travel everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
I have a map on Google Maps where I like
every time I am made aware of a different Pole
studio in a different city, no matter where it is,
I add it to the Google Maps and it's in
my Instagram. People can find it. Happy to send the
link if it's hard to find on my I think
it's somewhere in my stories. But yeah, so hopefully people

(01:09:51):
can find places to train or meet other people no
matter where you go, where you visit.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Yeah, I love that. I love that. Oh I'm ge
what whole song are you tired of listening to?

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
That's hard. I'm trying to think what songs have I heard? Yeah,
I mean, you know, it's always going to go. Like
with whatever's popular, you're gonna start to hear it a lot.
I it pains me to say it. I am preparing
myself to be overhearing defying gravity. I love the song,

(01:10:37):
I love the musical, but I am preparing myself for
the time where all the performances are going to be defined,
and there's gonna be some beautiful performances. I know. I
know they're coming and they're gonna be wonderful. They're gonna
be so awesome. But it's gonna be a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
I'm gonna have to check this to find gravity out wicked.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Oh, I still have a yet, right, somebody in my
class the other day said too. They were like, there's
a lack of Broadway musicals in the poo No, there's not.
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
And I also kind of want to ask, and this
is a new question. I don't think we've ever asked anyone,
but I want to start asking with you, what songs
do you recommend to dance to people. I want to
start introducing dances to new music, and everybody has different tastes.
It doesn't have to be like a list. Maybe want
to so, I.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Have like a lot of playlists on my Spotify, and
I'm sure pretty much every dancer does. But I have
like a playlist for like slower songs and chiller songs.

(01:11:58):
I have some that are higher energy. I have my
like pull warm up mix songs that I've enjoyed dancing
to a lot of them are from Ault J, which
is kind of like an indie band. They're not that
indie anymore that they're they're pretty popular as far as

(01:12:20):
indie bands go, and it's been a long time since
they've been making music. But there's a couple of songs
in their repertoire that I would love to put performances
together for, and I think that they're fun to dance to,
even without having sort of a goal in mind or

(01:12:41):
an idea for a performance. Flowy songs, I like, I'm
forgetting the name of the artists, hold on, hold my
work too, I'm gonna remember it as soon as I like, like, yes,

(01:13:04):
two Feet, well, how could I forget that artist name?
But two Feet I think is a good artist for
kind of like flowier dance style. And then if you
like more energy, Beyonce is always great.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Yeah, I love it. Thank you for sharing that in
introducing us to new music, well not new music, but
new music.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
Of course, anytime, happy to share music. Someone asked for
my playlist in class this past weekend, and I was like,
that's the highest compliment you could ever get.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
I was thinking about that, like, baby, how if people
we interview are down for sharing their playlist and we
can add it to their links.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
I'm down. I think I have it in my link.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Trio is calling all past interviewees send over for your playlist.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
This is fun.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
Yeah, you guys have songs you'd recommend. I want to
know now.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Oh my goodness, I've been on an amnoty binge lately, like,
oh the beats that artist creates very yeah, very, I
don't know, very sexy, very soulcry and just very different exotic.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
Yeah, okay, I got to check it out. Oh this
is like a small artist.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Yes, oh okay, incredible flexy beats me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
I will always dance to port Ashead and Tool okay,
those who will always forever?

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Okay, I haven't heard portis Head before.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Oh that song. I'm so tired. I'll play in play
in with this bow and narrow gonna give away? Do
you know it's it's like, give me Okay, well.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Maybe maybe I will, maybe I will.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
I'm also not a singer, so I'm probably like making
it sound terrible beautiful voice.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
Okay, now now I give okay, yep, well I think
it was.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
That was all the questions that I had for for
Chelsei today.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Do you have anything else you want to share off
for anyone at all, anything, maybe give a shout out anything.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
I'm gonna give a shout out to all of my
teachers and classmates. All the way from the beginning to now,
you guys have helped to shape me into who I
am and how I experience the pole world. You two
are included in that. We have been peers in class before,
I have learned from you before. I look up to

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everyone in different ways, but also fully because you are
each a whole person, and I just yeah, I thank
you for having me on. And I wouldn't be here
without all of those other people, so thank you to
them as well.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Yes, truly, our pleasure has been so beautiful to watch
your journey.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Oh that was so sweet, so sweet, right, I can't
wait to with you again soon.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
Sorry, I'm a little bit of a cry baby. This
is why I am like about to throw up whenever
I perform. But anyways, this is so embarrassing. It's if
you are, it's okay, it's okay, it's me, it's who
I am. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Well, thank you so much for sharing you and who
you are. And like I said, you taught me so
much just during this interview, and I know you've inspired
so many others as well, and we'll continue. So thank
you so much for being willing to share your story.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
Yeah, I can't wait to see where it takes you
in five to ten years, we'll still be doing this podcast,
but yes, yes you should be.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Oh my gosh, I can't wait to see where this
goes in five to ten years. Yeah, thank you so
much for the opportunity to be here and chat with
you guys, and I feel like it was just really fun.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Yeah, thank you so much to our listeners and watchers
of this episode of Pull on the Call podcast. My
name is Mandy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
Mackett and Chris Ribners. Let me see if I can
balance oooh heels. Be happy, baby pops.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
I'm jazzy. I'm not them.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Rainbow glitter. Oh those are gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Those are amazing.