Meet Pole Entrepreneur Zoe Bently, Founder of Misfit Aerial

Pole on the Call Podcast — Season 4
Pole Entrepreneur & Founder of Misfit Aerial, Zoe Bentley

In this episode, Cris Rivers & Mændy Mac interview the amazing Zoe Bentley, who is a Pole Entrepreneur & Founder of Misfit Aerial in Montgomery, IL.

The topic was about changing the way a studio is structured from the typical employee or contractor relationship to instead a network of independent businesses that are able to provide services for their customers within a shared space.

BIO:
Zoe stepped into her first pole studio experience after the birth of her second child in early 2012 and hasn’t stopped since. She’s been a student and member of many local studios in that time and began her teaching career in January 2020.

She specializes in beginner to intermediate level skills for pole, sling, and Lyra with an emphasis on building strong physical foundations to support her students’ aerial journeys.

Zoe’s experiences and observations over the years is what led her to open her own studio where the members are the instructors themselves to conduct their classes for their students with autonomy and the ability to make decisions based on their own customer base.

LINKS:
https://www.misfitaerial.com/
Instagram @misfitaerial


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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, hey, hey, everyone. I am excited to be here
with another episode of Poe on the Call.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
My name is Chris Rivers and I'm Mandy Mack.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
So we are here with the incredible pop coach and
owner of Misfit Ariel Zoe Bentley.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Why.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Thank you so much again for being here with for us, Zoe.
I'm excited to hear about miss Fit and your Poe journey.
We're reading your bio and you've been You've been in
the business for a while. I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah, it's been a journey, so Benna, at least a decade.
So I'm one of the ogs as far as the
student goes. You know, I still remember who a lot
of these people were when there was like twelve of them,
you know, twelve of the big stars. So I love that.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
So let's get into the beginning. What's started your Poe journey?

Speaker 3 (01:00):
A Funnier die video on YouTube. Christina Applegate was pregnant
and she did a pole video and it was like
her playing a character as if she were selling pole
classes for pregnant women. And I thought it was the
funniest thing I'd seen. But I also was like, wait

(01:22):
a second, our pole class is like a real thing,
because I had only seen Karma elektras like middle of
the night infomercial, and I thought that was just like
a you know, like that was just that backyard wrestling
right after it, you know. And so I had just

(01:42):
had my daughter. I was pregnant with her when I
saw it, and then I had my daughter, and then
about five and a half months she was when I
took my first poll class. I just thought, you know what,
I was a gymnast as a kid. This looks like gymnastics.
I bet I could do it. No, it was quite

(02:04):
the reality check I walked in. I did a teaser
class at a local studio and it was just ninety
minutes of my head spinning and that was about it.
Nothing else moved, just that, and and of course I
was intrigued, and I signed up for the next session.

(02:24):
In classic fashion. My husband had said, well, just give
it some time and give me a heads up, and
I called them on the way home and said, heads up,
I'm starting next week. And so it started with one
class a week, and then as time went by, I
probably not I'm not going to recommend this to people.

(02:46):
But I had gone up to like four or five
classes a week as time went on, and just piling
it on because I was not a natural and I
was at a studio where you you know, each time
you went for eight weeks, then you leveled up. Well,
I didn't understand how to do the first level of stuff,

(03:08):
and so now it's all this other, brand new stuff.
And so I was told, just take more classes and
then you'll get you'll see it more than once a week,
and I thought, okay, And so as I continued to
not really progress like everybody else around me, I just
kept adding classes until I blew my shoulder, so you know,

(03:29):
and so that's that's how that went. And then a
year of rehab and not using the right side of
my body, still going to classes, just relearned from the
ground up how to do stuff on my left side.
So as an instructor, I'm a huge proponent for not
expecting you to have it be perfect on both sides.

(03:52):
You're gonna have your good, graceful side and you're gonna
have your wild, jankie side. That's okay, just try it,
because you know, number one, you may surprise yourself, which
you're actually capable of. And number two, Paul always has
a way of having you happy to pick your poison. Well,
do I want to do my opposite side jasmine to

(04:14):
do my good side butterfly or vice versa, you know.
So I always as an instructor, I do emphasize just
try it at least you know, you don't have to
be an expert at it, but just try it. So
that's kind of how I got my beginning back in
twenty twelve. And I've been to several studios in the

(04:37):
area as a student, as a member and yeah, and
then I started teaching in twenty twenty. So I'm still
a newbie, I feel in the teaching field, you know,
just four years so, but it's been fun so learning
every day either from my students or just my own

(05:01):
you know, education.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
So I love it.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
I love also like I feel like every single og
polar we interview, they're like.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Don't do this at home, But I practiced every.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Single Yeah, we all have our learned it the hard way.
I feel like I always tell I tell my students,
you know, like I did. I don't know, I get
weird and weird adhd rabbit holes and I went down
the rabt hole of like how many like how big

(05:38):
is the fitness industry versus how many pole and aerials,
you know, studios are there. And it turns out that
it's probably roughly estimated, like one percent of the fitness
industry is like poll and aerial if you kind of
go on things, and so I tell people, I'm like,
that means that if you're in a room of one
hundred people, you're the only one who spent your time

(05:59):
upside down. That's pretty kick ass in my book, you know.
So you know, just whatever you're doing, wherever you're at,
just walking through these doors, you're already better than everybody else.
Like I like, you've got a leg up, you know already.
So just have some confidence in that, you know, just
relish in that.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
So I love that.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Too, And I appreciate how you mentioned because it's so
important the importance of practicing both sides, because you're right,
you pull often does how you pick your poison on.
Do I want to do this jasmine if it's going
to put me on this side of my butterfly? And
also when you mentioned the injury, sometimes you may need
that other side back, the other side that you just injured.

(06:51):
And it's a good reminder to constantly share that with people. Yeah,
so have you. You've mentioned you were a student and
then you started teaching twenty twenty. Did you ever start
competing or have any of that.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Nope, No, I like to go to the competitions. I
like to watch. I The most I'll do is I'll
perform in our like local showcases and stuff like that.
But showcases we either have held at now my own
studio or at previous studios that I've either attended or

(07:34):
you know, yeah, as a student or worked at. And
I actually didn't even start performing until I think twenty nineteen.
I came to a studio and I was told, well,
you know, if you don't perform, you're basically like the
only one who isn't performing. And I'm like, okay, and

(07:57):
so so I performed, and I actually don't I've I've
only recently performed on Pole and it was at our
latest October showcase, and you got to see me perform
on Pole for about twenty seven seconds. So it's I
usually pick Liro or Sling to perform on, but I

(08:20):
do have it on my bucket list. At some point
I will do a poll routine. But I got to
tell you, I started putting one together a couple of
years back, and I don't know how the hell people
perform on that apparatus. It is endurance on steroids. It
is just I don't know how people do it. I'm like,
holy cow, I'll go back to I need support. I

(08:43):
need a liro or a sling. I need to just
hang here like a dead baby or something. I don't know.
I just you can't on a pole. It's just up
and down. So yeah, but yeah, So I don't do competitions,
but I love supporting others, either from studios i've been

(09:04):
or just going just it's always fun to see the
creativity not only as like a character, but just the
combinations of the moves themselves. And you know, because sometimes
people I'm like, I would have never thought to put
those two moves together like that, Like that's really fun.

(09:25):
And I like going to pso because I feel like
the there's less restraint on what you're allowed to do.
So that's where you really get to see the creativity
of each performer and how each I mean already, when
you do you could have eight performances on a poll

(09:47):
and you're going to have eight different styles. But with
the way that they set up the categories and stuff.
It's even you even get deeper into that nitty gritty
of what that style can be. And I really enjoy
seeing that. So it's a lot of fun. I encourage
people to go, especially those with students like mine that

(10:07):
are in the beginner intermediate. I'm like, they always go,
I don't know how to put these moves together. I
don't know how to do it. Come to a competition
and you'll see, you know, it's fun to see.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Thank you for sharing that with us, honestly, because in
this industry, competitions are huge in it. It really I
feel it intimidates a lot of students and you don't
always need to be performing or competing. You can just
go and enjoy it and still learn so much from
the experience. Yeah, I can't wait to see what you

(10:44):
create in the future, though.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, there's always that running, you know, in the background,
the constant playlist of routines for the future, and then
which apparatus would work right, and then buying a costume
for it, and then not performing it. Yeah, but we

(11:08):
had to have a costume. Yeah, we had to have
a costume. Otherwise what's the point, you know, and then
yeah and then yeah, I mean it was a good sale.
That Dance Square solution gets me every time with that
free shipping, you know and final sail. Oh okay, get

(11:28):
going mm hmm yeah, oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
I love also, like you mentioned like the sling and
the lira uh. I also like them because they were
a comfortable seat, like a nice place to rest. What
would you see as your favorite aerial apparatus, then, le Lys.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Lera that is the one that Paul I've been doing
as it's been a long time since I've been a student,
but I have been an ongoing student continuously with Lera
for I think it's nine years. So it's the one
apparatus that I feel the most comfort to fa fo

(12:12):
on without feeling like I can really get hurt, whereas
with a pole it's just straight up and down, you know.
So and also I like it because it's a great
cross trainer to pole. But also I have found that
for myself in particular, there are certain moves that just

(12:37):
are seemingly unattainable for my body to be able to
get into on a pole because of how vertical it is,
and it's not as forgiving, whereas with weira. Because of
the circle of it, I can shift my hips in
a way where I don't have a big forty five

(12:58):
milimeter bar me back. I have like a one inch bar.
And so there's been certain moves that I've been able
to unlock for myself on a lira that I still
struggle with, like even even something as simple as the
cross knee release. I teach that in poll, but oh,

(13:18):
I have to really make sure that I keep my
nerves together so I don't sweat and get you know,
sweaty and then slip. But on a lira, because you
can put your foot through, I feel safer, there's like
an extra contact point. Or like with my Ayesha's I can.

(13:41):
I struggle to do those myself on a pole, but
I can do them on a lira. Whether you want
it on a double tab, a single tab, a handlop,
do you want it inside, do you want it outside?
You know I can do those and so to me
that boosted my confidence. But then also doing lira it

(14:02):
boosted my upper body strength to where now my upper
body now matches a little bit better to be able
to make those moves more attainable for me on pole
as well. So that's why I really like it. Once
I reached a certain level in my practice to be
able to go, okay, what's really difficult for me to

(14:23):
do on pole? I want to see if I can
do it on lira and then oh it's hard on lira,
but not as hard as it was on pole. So
that keeps me coming back. So and that's what my
selling point is for my own classes. Just be like, hey,
you know, if you're struggling here, maybe try this one,

(14:45):
you know. So yeah, right everyone.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
It's so interesting how everyone's body like understands physics in
different ways. Like for me, the lay back on a
lyra scares the crap out of me.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
But I'll do it all day long on a pole.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah, I'll do it no hand in, no holding or
anything on a lira, and on a pole I'm gripping
everything I can. And it's only been a few times
that I've been able to like let go of my ankle,
and I feel like I have old barbie legs, like
you know, like when you had the barbie and you'd
try to bend it and then bounce back. And I

(15:23):
can remember in my own like early years, I had
an instructor when I was learning my inside leg hang
versus my outside like hang, and she'd come by and
pull my leg down for the for you know, outside
leg hang or Gemini, and my knee would just pop
right back up. And it wasn't until like I just
it wouldn't go into that locked position. I wasn't told

(15:45):
to shift my hips or you know, maybe you know,
pull yourself, pull your chest up more to get more
into you know, so you can get the pole next year,
you know, in between then that sweet spot and that
you know, that sweet meat that we have on the
side of our hip or right above it. I wasn't
told those things, and I don't blame that instructor for it. Again,

(16:08):
this was twelve years ago. We didn't have the education
that we have now. The market wasn't as saturated as
it is now. But it wasn't until I learned how
to do leg switches from inside to outside. Then all
of a sudden it was like, oh, well, now my
knee bends, and so it took a different approach for

(16:31):
me to And that was kind of the first time
that it was like I thought, outside legking was just
unattainable for me. And because I was never doing it correctly.
But I just I needed a different entrance, and once
I had that, then it was like, well, what is
happening here? Why is my knee? Now? It can do it.
So it was just my body needed to be in

(16:53):
a different position from the start. So, you know, it's
all the long life learned lessons of doing it the
hard way.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
So have you ever? Have you tried for the lollipop lira?
Which is I haven't.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
A friend of mine has and I haven't. I I'm intrigued.
I'll try anything once, you know, Yeah, I like, you know,
I've Yeah, I just haven't had the opportunity, you know,
I don't. I don't know anyone around here that has one,
or if they do, they haven't offered me to be

(17:35):
able to hop on it. So yeah, but if I
ever find the chance, I definitely will. I mean, come on,
we're in poll An aerial. I mean, I have a
met in my trunk. I bought it, used it once
for a photo shoot. I have a pocket lira. I mean,
I think we've become apparatus junkies, you know, and this

(17:58):
is an expensive.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
I hate to use.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
The word hobby, but it starts out that way. For
some of us. It's expensive either way, you know, with
all the apparatuses and costumes, always costumes, costumes for class
and costumes for routines that don't happen or whatever. Shoes

(18:26):
and I don't even I have two pairs of shoes,
and I'm not really a heels person in class. I'm
a baby giraffe. So that is even after all these years,
it's just, yeah, that's a new that'll be a challenge.
So mm hmm. I'll take it on at some point,
probably next week, I'll teach with heels on, So just

(18:48):
bear with me, bear with me class. So I love it.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
Do you have a style of pull, roll around on
the floor and work it out?

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Anything that allows me to keep my pants on? I mean,
I think I yeah, I thought of the beginning because
I had a background in gymnastics that I used to
watch all of the videos of like all the tricksters,
and I was like, oh, I'm going to do that
one day, and then reality hit me and my body

(19:30):
is just no, that's not going to happen. And I
started pull when I was thirty three, I think. So,
I don't want to say in my later years, but
I was older in compared to some of a lot
of the people that were in my class. And I
just had a baby, and you know, I came from

(19:53):
working out like CrossFit and powerlifting and you know that stuff.
So it was a completely different, different change. So when
I first started it, I didn't come into POLL trying
to get sexy. That truth be told, I've only gotten
more comfortable with that side of myself as an instructor

(20:17):
because I was told, you're the exception, not the rule.
Most people come into PULL to get in touch with
their more feminine side or to feel more sexy, and
I was just like, okay, so you know, and it's
part of that beginner curriculum, you know. So as time
has gone by, I've I've gotten a lot more comfortable

(20:39):
with it, and my choreography shows that. But I would
say for my own personal stud I'm probably more fitness forward.
That's what I tell people when they come to my classes, Like,
you know, we're going to laugh a lot, We're going
to warm up for a while, We're going to do
a lot of conditioning that's going to help strengthen your foundation,

(21:00):
going to learn a couple of skills, and then you
can follow along with me at the end to dance,
and by that point I'm going to be probably laying
on the floor a lot, you know, and doing that
kind of stuff because I'm fired too, And you know,
so I think for me, I really do enjoy, since

(21:20):
I'm a personal trainer, as you know my past education,
I really enjoy deep diving into the nitty gritty of
like how can we get this move to possibly work
for you, and also being more supportive from the get

(21:40):
go with having progressive exercises that work towards the big
moves like inverts and shoulder mounts and climbs and butterflies
and handsprings. You know, I'd rather brass monkey. I mean,
these my students know, like all of this is starts

(22:04):
on the floor, starts away from the pole even and
just kind of building from there. So I tend to
take a slower pace with my students, not to hold
them back. They still set the pace, but I really
want to make sure that they're like my children. I

(22:24):
want them to be better than me. I want them
to get their skills faster than me. It took me
nine months to get a butterfly. It takes them sometimes
just maybe a couple months. You know at the most. Okay,
you know, I'm not in any rush, and my clients
tend to be older. They tend to be between thirty

(22:47):
and forty five, so and working working moms or you know,
or just working desk jobs. We're not athletes. You come
to me one day a week. You know, we're going
to do a little bit more conditioning and stuff like
that than jumping into the fun stuff because I want
to make sure that your body is ready for it.

(23:07):
You'll thank me later, but you know, so you don't
have the injuries that I have. You know, so.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Right, we're a little bit like that out pull on
the wall too. We're all older, so take a little
bit more care of our bodies and pass that along
to our students. So thank you for bringing that up,
because I think sometimes well, different studios might be totally different.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
How lots of youngsters.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Oh yeah, I mean it's crazy even with like I
love watching those posts where it's like I even have
saved some of them on Instagram or YouTube where they're
like here's a beginner combo and then it's like a
freaking shoulder mount and I was like, what, like this
is okay, that's if you're doing your Superman and you're
going upside down in your first class, like, please don't

(23:59):
say you're a beginner. That's and I and I realized too,
like maybe it's because I'm in the middle of the
Midwest and I live outside of Chicago. Like we're on
the cornfields, you know, Like we like a slower pace.
There's a drawl out here, you know, So we're gonna
we're gonna equate that with you know, our pace as well.
Whereas when you have like La New York Chicago, that's

(24:21):
a different a different culture, I think. And and also
it's a bigger pool of people, I think, and so
and they're coming from I don't know. Everybody comes in
from different levels no matter where you're at. But I
just think, yeah, my pace is not Chicago paste. It's Montgomery,

(24:42):
Illinois paste. And I'm forty six years old. So and
my my kids don't care if I injured myself. They
still want dinner and you know, so it doesn't matter.
I need to make sure I can at least preserve myself. So,

(25:02):
but I think it's such a good example for my students.
I tell them, when did you think you were going
to get the skill on the first class, like your
intermediate level is such a chasm from your beginner. Beginner
is like spins and floor and accents, but now intermediate
it is Okay, hold your body weight and do it
upside down. You know, it's just two completely different worlds.

(25:25):
So you've got to change the mindset. And so there's
a lot of psychology when you're with people. They are
like children. But it's a good thing. It's a good thing,
you know.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Right, you go upside down, you can never go back.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Yeah, or you don't know how to come back down,
so you're kind of stuck there. And then yeah, here
I come to help you down. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Can you tell us a little bit more about where
you teach.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah, so I teach at Misfit Aerial. We're located in Montgomery, Illinois,
so we're probably what is that about an hour or
so outside of Chicago. We're west of Chicago. Yeah, so
we have been. We stopped opened last year October thirtieth,

(26:29):
and we officially opened January first of twenty twenty four.
At that time, we had let's see bye. By January first,
we had eight members and now we have twelve. So

(26:49):
there are eleven of us that are poll or aerial
and or aerial instructors, and then one photographer who puts
on like special like fantasy photo shoots and stuff like that.
So it's it's been really fun and we're expanding. So

(27:13):
we're in the process of we took over the rest
of the half of the building, so we went from
twelve hundred square feet to over three thousand. So we
are building out a thousand square foot dedicated pole studio
and we're only putting six poles in there. So the

(27:35):
sixth that we have right now, they're just getting moved
into that room and so there'll be a lot of
space in between. But it will also be able to
hold four aerial rig points so that we can also
have that be for showcases because that's kind of a
big deal we like to put those on, and so

(27:57):
big nice room to do it in have the one
side that has two aerial rooms each is about six
hundred square feet, and then now the other thousand square
feet for dedicated poll because right now I take the
poles down every Tuesday night and then put them back
up Friday night, and then take them back down sometime

(28:18):
on Saturday, and then put them back up on Sunday
or Monday, just because of the rhythm of the studio.
So I'm very much looking forward to when the other
space is open, so I only have to take poles
down maybe a few times a year.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
So yeah, that was going to be one of my
questions because we interviewed. I would want to say tenants,
because I also want to know more about the business
model that you guys have going on.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
But Laura of elevated Ariel to us.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
About you, and we were so interested and it was
laughing because I always dreamed about like polling the mall
and having like everything just together in one space, and
you've done that, so I wonder. I guess we can
first start with, like what is it a co op
or what type of business is us?

Speaker 3 (29:13):
It's a community. The members, the ones who pay the
memberships are the instructors, so myself included, I am one
of those members. I pay the membership just like everybody else,
and then we rent the space for our classes and

(29:34):
then after that it's off to the races. Everyone is
their own business, so their clientele is their clientele. Their
clients pay them directly, and it's been really good. It
allows everyone the freedom.

Speaker 6 (29:54):
To teach what they want, teach who they want, how
they want, and also allows our clients to kind of
bounce around.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
And I know a few of us share clients back
and forth. Someone might take poll with me, but take
Aeriel with somebody else, or when it's workshop time, you know,
to jump around. And like I said, we're early in
this in our infancy, so we're all learning at the
same time. So there's a lot of conversations between us,

(30:30):
and which is good. It's very collaborative. Everyone's kind of
I mean, I guess as much as we are each
other's competition because we don't we're not competing with five
area studios. We're kind of competing with each other. But
it doesn't really feel that way because we all had
our own we had our followings, we had our some

(30:55):
of us, you know, we've we've been building since we
got in and we're watching each other and talking to
each other like, well, what worked for you, how did
you get those new clients? Or Hey, I'm going to
do this marketing strategy and see what works and what doesn't.
And then you know, and as misfit, well, this is

(31:15):
where I wear a second hat. You know, I try
to be as much of a resource for them as possible.
Like I have someone who is running a workshop here
in a couple of weeks and I said, well, give
me the content and I'll send out a newsletter, you know,
because I've got a pretty big following of email addresses
as Misfits, So let me send it out and see

(31:38):
if you can get any more interest in your in
your business. And same with the Instagram. You know, I'm
I'm not a very big social media person. I'm trying
to be better at it. I'd rather just lurk in
the shadows. Truth told, my Instagram was literally the back
of my head for the longest time. And my sister said,
I know that's new. I know that neck anywhere, and
I'm like, damn it, you know. And so being more

(32:03):
out there is it's different. But but I think what
I what we have going at Misfit has been really good.
I I mostly just did it because I just wanted
to be left alone. I don't like people telling me
what to do, and I and anything that people tell
me to do. I'm I've coined a term, I'm positively spiteful,

(32:26):
Like I just will I'll do it with a smile
on my face. But I operate very well out of
spite and just people telling me no, you can't do that,
or that's not what everybody else does. I know that's
why I wanted to do it. But it's been very
I've been very honored by the amounts of positive reception

(32:55):
that it's gotten and so far just from the people
that have come on to be members and to take
the leap with me. That does not I don't take
that lightly. I I have a lot of people depending

(33:15):
on me. Now, some that this is they teach one
or one day a week, you know, maybe one or
two classes here there, because they have a forty to
fifty hour publer, you know, job during the rest of
the week. But there are some this is their job.
This is how they pay their mortgage and their bills.

(33:36):
And I wanted something better for us in this industry
in the sense that well number one, I I didn't
I didn't want employees or contractors, you know. I didn't
want to deal with any of that, and and with

(33:57):
that comes the level of control. And I didn't I
didn't want to control anybody either. I I I didn't
want a boss, But I also didn't want to be
anybody else's boss. I just want to continue to do
what I love and I wanted that for everybody else.

(34:18):
So it's my little slice of libertarian paradise in this
in this world, you know. And it's working. And I'm
really happy to see us grow and to see others
that have come on and to see their businesses grow
as well, and to hear that they want once once

(34:38):
the new space opens, that they want to add to
their classes, add to their schedule. That fills me with
so much joy for them. It's really really inspiring and
fun to be in at a front seat to see

(35:00):
other people's growth as well. It makes me want to
be better, but not in a competitive kind of way.
Just I'm surrounded by excellence and that makes that makes
me want to be better. I'm not saying imposter syndrome
doesn't poke its head up. It definitely does. But I

(35:27):
know my students, hm, they like me for me that
I sell my personality, you know, and everybody else does
the thing, and it's really fun. I don't know. I
equate our the business like it's an old Simpsons where
mister Burns goes to the doctor and they show all

(35:47):
of his diseases in the doorway and they're just like
it's the perfect you know, it only works because they
know nobody can get through. That's how I kind of
feel as the top of the pack of all all
of these personalities because we're all EVAs. That's just the
polin aerial community. We're all a bunch of divas. But

(36:08):
it somehow works, and I'm really happy that it works.
So that that is my biggest driver, is just to
continue to keep the lines of communication open amongst the instructors,
either with me or with each other. And we're all adults,
and let's figure it out and let's be collaborative, let's

(36:29):
build a community. Especially after COVID, a lot of that
was really broken and I really missed that from previous
studios who really did it right. And then I'm trying
to do that again, like you know, be better, you know.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Right, thinking outside of the box. I always like laugh
because I'm like, oh, there's so many like options, but
none of them seem right. For Pollian saying there should
be like a secret third thing, and this sounds like
the secret third thing as far as what like business models,

(37:13):
like because you said that you didn't want to have
employees or independent contractors, and you know, as we learn
more about like business, it doesn't really it's not really
for us in the pole industry. It doesn't really make
sense for us. So there should be like some other
other thing for us to do.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
And yeah, love it.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
The membership is genius, right, so.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
As far as like you right now, you just have
the one space and all of the members are sharing
the space, so no one can plan a class at
the same time as another members.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
That how it goes or.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
No. So for aerial we have two rooms, so we
have for example, on Thursday nights, this is kind of
a perfect example of how misfit is. So on Thursday
nights at seven pm, for example, one one room is

(38:20):
being operated by by one business and then in the
back room myself and another business are operating at the
same time, sharing that space. So she has one half
of the room and I have the other half of
the room, and we warm up our students together and

(38:44):
it's actually and she's teaching Lira and I'm teaching sling,
and it's a lot of fun. It's you know, just
to again build that community amongst even the members who
probably otherwise would have never met each other, and yeah,
it's been a lot of fun. So that's that's how

(39:04):
that works. Honestly, I had no idea. I knew that
I wanted to build a space that took the safety
of aerial lists, like seriously. So we have a mantrust

(39:25):
that we had custom We had a custom fabricated, my
husband and I designed it, and then we had performance
rigging solutions through the design and everything, and so yeah,
so we have lower out pulley systems so no more ladders.

(39:46):
We all came from studios that had ladders too. And
we also have six foot by six foot and eight
inch thick crash mats underneath each rig point. So there's
six rig points in each room, and so each person
gets their own crash mat and we got those from
AKA Athletics. It's their aerial specific crash mats. So and

(40:09):
it's funny because those were like the star of the
show here, I've got this big ass trust and they're like,
oh that's cool, Oh my god, those crash masks. And
then the first month of being open, I would say
we had to have some conversations with some people because
it was like, Okay, just because we have good crash

(40:31):
masks doesn't mean, you just like ling yourself around like
there still needs to be some responsibility here, you know,
like they're crash maks. They're not full proof, you know.
But I think we a lot of us came from
studios where the best we could get was maybe a
tumbling mat, and despite constant like can we please get

(40:54):
the mats? And so when I was having kids ask
me if they get more crash mats underneath them, can't?
I thought, there's something here that's I need to really
look into. And so when I built Misfitted, safety was

(41:16):
definitely at the forefront of my mind and it really
has paid off. I mean not to say that there
isn't still personal responsibility and also you know, good coaching
and all that kind of stuff, but I think when
people walk into the facility seeing a big steel trust

(41:40):
that you know can hold hold six twelve brig points,
we designed it as if we had twelve one hundred
and eighty pound people doing a single slack drop at
the same time. Could it hold it? Yes, it can.
That'll probably never ever happen, but in case, and then

(42:00):
with the lower out systems, those have come into use
a couple of times. Really glad we had them as
someone gets stuck. And then, like I said, having it
so that the space could be adaptable, so the poles,
I went with loop it, so I just removed them

(42:21):
up and down with a little pole cart every week.
And yeah, so but like I said, most of us
are aerialists, and the beginning we only had we have
right now there are two pole instructors that only teach pole.
There are four pole instructors, but two of us teach

(42:42):
other apparatusus. So everybody else is aerial So that's where
it was kind of like whoa. I definitely tapped into
something here because just for people to come in and
be like, oh my yead, look at these polling systems
and those crash mats. So yeah, the star of the
show I saw about doing just an Instagram post just

(43:02):
featuring just our crash man, you know, just safety.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
They eat that stuff up.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Yeah, well, thank you for describing that a little bit more.
It's it's just so interesting and awesome. It was hard
for me to to understand, but now I'm kind of
seeing more. It definitely is does sound like a community
and that's so awesome, like a great way for everyone
to like work together. I like how you guys share

(43:35):
the warm up and then you split up, Like.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
That's so cool.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
We've looked about different ways to start studios, and I
then this is definitely a new one, and I'm so
intrigued and I can't wait to see where it brings you.
You are in the future, that's so exciting.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Yeah, me too. Yeah, it's been it's been fun. I
need to I need to keep breathe. But yeah, I
could tell myself, oh, I'll take a break in January,
and the I'm like, oh no, I've got this thing.
Plan in January. Maybe February Nope, Nope, not in February,
getting getting another certification of February Okay. Maybe March nope,

(44:13):
train cation and showcase Steven, Okay, maybe June. You know. Like,
so it's good though it's it's been a lot of
it's been a lot of fun. It theys can get hectic,
but overall, I don't really find it too stressful. I

(44:35):
am surrounded by I have a very supportive husband. I
also have very supportive friends who are also my members,
and so, like I said, I have a good community
around me. And then I'm expanding it even beyond them
with the mentorship program and doing things like this so

(44:59):
and meeting more more people. So my world is getting
bigger and bigger, which puts me a little bit more
at ease. I don't not to say that I'm not
very busy, but I know I'm in good hands. So yeah,
it's it's a ride, it is.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
And it's so fun. I will say, taking a break
in the pole industry is like hard. You're always like
working on something new. You're always working on a new certificate,
working on a new showcase, working on new things for
the studio. But it is such a rewarding thing.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
It is. Yeah, definitely, definitely is. I never thought I
would ever be an instructor. Ever. I didn't want to teach.
It was I didn't think I had it in me,
and the studio that I was at they didn't have
like a a dedicated beginner program. And I said, well,

(46:04):
if I design a curriculum, can I teach it? And
I'm very thankful for my friend who took a chance
on me, because I definitely have a mouth on me
and I will let you know when I don't like something,
and so that was her own reservation and but I'm

(46:26):
thankful every day that she vouched for me, and so I, yeah,
I always want to do right by her because you know,
if it weren't for her taking that chance on me,
I wouldn't be here today and she wouldn't be one
of my members. So because I brought her with me,

(46:48):
So you know, it was, it's been a.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Lot of fun, I believe. Would do you mind? Goodness,
I have a couple of questions, but you brought up
teacher to ansorship. Do you mind talking about that experience
a little? Because I I think that's a beautiful experience.
I'm so glad to hear that you're going through it.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Yeah, So it was I don't even know. I well,
I uh, I kind of signed up for it not
really knowing what all was going to be involved with it.
So I actually signed up for two different thirds at
the same time. And then my ADHD kicked in and

(47:32):
I was like, fran I got all, I went through everything,
and I'm ready for my level one and I just
like got it done. And you know, I don't even
think we maybe had our first doom call and I
was just like I'm done, you know, and just you know,
to get it. But yeah, and because I don't know,
but it's been a lot of fun and just a
wealth of information and just resources and validation has been

(48:02):
the biggest thing, like just just whether it's how to
focus your social media ads or how to you know,
how to create a more inclusive or a safe environment
for your students, or how to get them on a

(48:24):
better progressive track. It's been very validating to know that
I've kind of been fumble fucking my way through it.
And then of course there are things that I didn't
know that I'm like, oh, I'm going to try that,
you know, and sometimes they work for my business and
sometimes they don't. I don't take it as oh, that

(48:46):
was bad advice. It's just we all have different businesses,
and we all are in different areas and different industries.
You know. Just it is what it is. But it's
been a lot of just a lot of information. I'm
very thankful to Fran for being so available and so
just here take it, you know, here's my knowledge, carry

(49:09):
it on. And I've I've had that opportunity with a
few others in real life here like that. I definitely, again,
I don't take it lightly. I want to do right
and also just to be at a point where it
wasn't until I owned my own business that now I

(49:30):
can actually go somewhere, you know, because before I was
teaching anywhere between twelve to fifteen classes a week across
two studios. There was no sub, or if there was,
I could maybe get a sub for like one class,
and it was like, h Now, if I want a sub,
I have somebody stub my classes and I, you know,

(49:53):
take care of it, or they just pay that person. Hey,
so and so it's going to be sub in that week.
You pay her, you know, or I just cancel class.
That's okay too. My students they know if I'm going someplace,
it's probably because number one, I need the vacation, or
number two, I'm going to get further educated, so it's
going to come back to help them. So yeah, I've

(50:17):
been just eating it up with what France has been
giving me. And I'll be doing the Level two start
in January. And then I know she's talking about the business.
Uh well, I forget what it's called where it's just
deep diving into the business side of it. So I'm

(50:39):
deciding on whether or not I'm going to do that one.
We'll see. I also have another certification. Yeah, I don't know.
I'm yeah, I'm just spending that money. So my students
are paying me to hey certifications. But it's good, you
know you're past.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
It does look fun. The teacher took a mentorship. If
y'all can ever check it out, I definitely recommend it.
It is so worth the money I have made, the
money I spent on it, and then some back. Always
got a shout out fran because she was just changing
the game out there for everyone.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
We have two interviews with her in our podcast, Interviews
with Phone the Calls, So if you want to learn
more about bodyby Fraan, go check those out.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
I'm also in the stage where you are, where I
know the benefits of the business intensive and I want
to take it so much, but I'm like, can I
afford it at this time with everything else going on?

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Yeah, it's not even affording it necessarily financially. It's just
do I have the mental space to take on all
that's going to come with it, you know? So yeah,
I'm definitely coming up to that. Like I'm trying to
finish up another sert right now with the doctor Emily Rousch,

(52:11):
and I really enjoy it. It's the how not to
fuck up your students the instructor portal. Holy cow, I
love a good deep dive, but I'm in the middle
of the energy systems right now, and I'm like, I'm
trying that to like it's good, but I'm also going,
how am I gonna how does this work? In my class?

(52:34):
It's like they don't care. They're eating you know, like
you know what I mean. So it's like I'm trying
to like figure it out, and part of it is
just to tickle my own like brain. But yeah, I'm
a few weeks behind on that. I think they're supposed
to be finishing up. I think next week and I
will not be. I'm a little behind. But thankfully it's

(52:57):
you know, you can ship away at it, but cow,
it is. She said that it was going to be intensive,
and I thought, oh, okay, you know, sciencey whatever. I
was pre med, I was pre chiropractic back in the
college days, you know, and I thought, oh, no, big deal.
I had no idea. I mean, I love it, but
it's rabbit hole, rabbit hole, you know. But it's good.

(53:21):
But yeah, just trying to figure out how to that's
been the biggest thing with all of this further education,
just trying to figure out how to fit it all
into what I'm doing now, how to like take little
bits here and there and just try it a little
bit at a time so that I don't completely throw
my stoness for a loop. Because I tried a cardio
thing and they were like, what the hell is this?

(53:42):
And I was like, it's a warm up guys, you know,
and they're just like, you know, so, you know, I
try to make it fun. I try to, like, you know,
it's fine, you don't have to, but yeah, they're they yeah,
they let me know. My students. Your students always are

(54:03):
like you you know, so my students are my karma
for sure. They're like squirrels. They're not really listening. I
have to show them fifty times and that's me as
a student. Could you do it again third time? Slower?
I wasn't listening. I what, you know, so you know it.
But I love them. They're you know, they're they're what

(54:27):
it's all for, even if it is hurting cats too.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Funny Orangee, I know we talked a lot about whole
business and your studio. I have to ask, do you
have a favorite Poetrick?

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Oh god, I know you know, this was the one
question that I really like, have been pondering all week
and I'm like, what is it? I definitely have a
fucket list, But.

Speaker 6 (54:58):
I would say.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
As a student, my favorite ben was the back hook
because it was the first spin I ever got, because
they said, just fall backwards, and I'm like, oh, well,
I've been falling forward and it hasn't been working out
for me, so let's try falling backwards. And it did,
and so that I really enjoyed For my students. I

(55:31):
really enjoy teaching them. They're firemen because truth be told,
that that spin I did not get until about six
years ago. And paper are like, that's like your first spin,
and I was like, yeah, welcome to my journey because

(55:52):
I just and so I really really worked on breaking
it down and I've got your two matching arrows on
the same side of the poll pointing in the direction
that your hips have to fall, and I've really taken
it down to a nitty gritty that I like to do,

(56:13):
and it really it really makes me proud when I
see them get it. They don't have to get it
on the first day, and I always tell them, don't
judge this class on the first time because your body's going,
what the heck you know? But come back a second
time because your your muscles are going, oh, we've kind
of done this before. And even if it's not a

(56:36):
full spin, just anything. And I love getting to experience
their excitement when they get it, and the fact that
they're getting their skills way faster than I ever did.
It's like I said, it's that's why I teach. I

(56:57):
want them to be better than me, and that's all
I'm here to do. I'm here to help you be
successful in your journey. And and so yeah, that that's
I would say. Yeah, so back hook for me, sorry
as my dog, and environment spend for my for my students.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Yes, I love those, both of them. You can easily
add to transitions, especially the back cook one of my favorites.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
And I have to ask, do you have a pole nemesis?

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Well, Superman, definitely, you'll learn one way from me, one
way do you want to learn one another? I have
several colleagues that you can go and learn from them.
I just I don't know that and cross ankle, cross

(57:59):
ankle is I will teach it, but I will not
do it. And actually that one is the one that
kind of universally in our studio, that is the one
that people are like, I will, I will teach you
how to do it, but I will not do it myself.
Out of the four of us, every single one of
us has had a bad experience with that move. And

(58:20):
it's so funny because that's how I kind of pinpoint
who's a home polar when they walk into my studio,
because they'll be like, oh, why don't you kind of
show me what you know? And next thing you know,
they're like the aerial invert and then they go right
into like a spinning cross ankle release. I'm like, you
taught yourself at home, didn't you. You know? It's like
and I love the move. I love it, and I'm

(58:42):
like so jealous that they can do it so easily,
and then just for myself, I immediately get thigh sweat
and Nope, it's just not going to happen. But I like,
I do like teaching it to my students that want
to learn it, and I have a couple that have
and I like seeing that for them. That's good for you.

(59:05):
That's so good for you, for you, not me.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
I love that, Thank you. For sharing that honestly, because
we can teach it, even though we don't like it,
we can get them in it.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
Yeah, and I don't necessarily have to get up there
and do it. Like truth be told, they're I know.
Part of the issue is I just, for whatever reason,
have a hard time with internal rotation with my legs,
and you need a lot of it for that move,
and for whatever reason, I have a limit. But for

(59:44):
one of my students, I mean, she surprised the hell
out of me by doing a legit crucifix on a sling.
And I don't mean the sling was like closed and together,
and she just mounted it like a pole and then
let go upside down. And I was like, I'm going
to teach you cross ankle next time we're in hole,

(01:00:07):
because I think you could do it. And I was like,
I was just floored. I I'm not going to try that,
but I said, if you ever perform, put that in there,
because that's a show stopper. You know, I've never seen
anything like that before. It was so cool about dropped
to the floor and bowed to her in her presence.

(01:00:27):
You know, just, oh my god, I'm not worthy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Like all of the squeeze.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Yeah, yeah, uh huh.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Get the students better than us.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
I wanted to ask, did you have any advice for
anyone looking to provide a space for aerial or a
pole or anything or performance?

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
What do you mean? I'm or I didn't quite understand
the question.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Oh, just if you had any advice for anyone who
is looking to maybe do something like what you have going.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
On, oh, like to start their own whether you know
whether they're using my model or anything. I have a
student who recently opened her own studio, and I just said,
make sure that you surround yourself by the right people

(01:01:30):
and also know your boundaries. Say now and either just
to yourself, knowing that you have the limit. My plate
is full. I cannot take on anymore and just take
it a day at a time. It's a lot owning

(01:01:52):
a business, and I'm I was a professional cotail writer
for a very long time as a happy wife, happy wife,
happy life, and you know, so to be a business
owner and of two businesses, I kind of just threw
myself in the deep end and it's been good. That's

(01:02:15):
the only way I'll do it, just throw myself in.
But yeah, I don't think that I would be where
I'm at if I wasn't surrounded by the good, supportive
people that I have around me. And I'm very thankful
and appreciative that i have a pretty good sized community.

(01:02:37):
But even if you just have one person in your corner,
and if that's your life partner, your business partner, your
best friend, somebody who's going to help you keep your
head on straight and lead you in the right way
and be the one to tell you when you start

(01:02:57):
to waver and go know you're a badass, you know,
or just calm down or whatever it is. That's what
I encourage. Like, it's a big world out there, and
this is a small community. Even if some of the
areas that we're in have more than one studio, There's

(01:03:17):
a lot of people out there. And this is a
really fun industry to be in as far as for
exercise and friendships. And it's so much fun to be
in a class where you have everyone from the young
college kid to the stay at home mom, to the
lawyer to the corporate bigwig to everything else in between,

(01:03:40):
and we're all sucking at the same time or or
succeeding at that move. You know, It's like it's really
the equalizer, and I wouldn't have met the people that
I know today if it hadn't been for this. And
I was not a group fitness person. I was the
put a hoodie on, put my earbuds in, and go
work out on a machine. Don't talk to me, And

(01:04:03):
when I didn't do group classes, I didn't like it.
Don't talk to me like I don't. I'm not here
to socialize, whereas with Pole and aeril like, there's a
lot of socializing, but what a lot of is bitching
about the moves that we have to do or the
condition that we're doing. And we're all bonding on that,
and that's fine. Again, go back to the spipe, positively, spiteful.

(01:04:26):
We'll get through it together. And so that's what I
recommend to people, like, figure out what model works for you.
This is what worked for me based on my personality
and kind of based on what I was willing to
risk to go my own way. If you want employees,

(01:04:47):
have employees, it's great, you know, if you want ten
ninety nine contractors, do it. Whatever makes you happy, whatever
whatever brought you to the yard, you know, just do
what makes you happy. It's all that I can really say.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Thank you for that advice, and I should also add
to check in with your local state.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
As well, because it might be different for wherever you are,
so make sure that you look into that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
But also thank you for a beautiful new way for
you know, Aeriel and Pole to exist together in the
same space.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
I think that is a way for us to all
evolve in our craft, so that I can't wait to
see more of that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Please make more.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate the conversation and just having this opportunity.
It's I just went for it, you know, so, and
Laura wanted me to make sure that I let you
know that our trust is fourteen feet high at the
top and underneath our poles are thirteenth eat long, and

(01:06:01):
our ceilings go up to I think nineteen feet, but
they're slanted and we're not hooked up to those anyways,
because the Trust is independently bolted to the floor. So
at some point, if any of us ever get insured,
myself included, for anything beyond thirteen feet, then I'll think
about expanding upwards. But for right now, we're expanding outwards

(01:06:24):
and that's enough expansion for me at this time. But
just setting the record straight, thirteen foot polls and fourteen
foot trust She goes, She goes, you should open the
interview with that, and I was like, that would be
really funny. You know, I'm here to set the record straight,
so I'll have to at least I got it in

(01:06:45):
so because it would have been a shame to go
through this whole thing and not set it straight. So
shout out to Laura. It's good.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Yeah, we're good. Those are some awful.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
Yeah, and coming from Slovenia.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Thank you Lupet for you know, for shipping them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
They come in one piece.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Yeah, these ones did. Yeah, they did, and they actually
shipped very quickly, but then they sat in customs at
the airport for three weeks. So yeah, yeah, I was like,
can't I just come and pick them up? And they
were sitting at a air Come on, let me come
and get its. July I got to get him out
of the plastic.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
So yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Hell yah, love it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
Both.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
I guess Christy, do you have any other questions to ask?
I think we.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Asked so much and we covered so much.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
I'm a talker.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
There's not with that at all. I guess I like
to kind of ask and think, where do you hope
to see yourself with your studio or with Poe in
the next two to five years.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
I don't know. I think each year looking back, going,
oh my god, can you remember when we were doing this?
And now it's just like someone saying, you know, like
I really hate like the part and the new job,
when you're like, I know, a month from now, I'm
going to know how to wait on these tables. Like
it's just like I'll know this menu inside and out,

(01:08:34):
Like can I just get to that part? And so
I realized, like in this industry and just with us
all growing as businesses, I think in two years will
we'll all have found our groove. And by five years

(01:08:54):
I have no idea. By five years, my daughter will
be eighteen and we'll evaluate, you know at that point,
because then she'll be graduated high school and let's see
where she's going to go. And at the end of
the day, all else failed, I can use this mod
trust to be the standing walls of a new home

(01:09:14):
in a different state. So I have no help repurpose
my studio. But I really have no idea. I I
know you're supposed to have an exit strategy, before you
even start. But I guess that's my exit strategy, use
the studio to build my own. But that's what I think,

(01:09:39):
so so yeah, I don't I don't know, but it's
been it's a lot of fun, and I know that
we're just going to get better and better as we
figure things out, and and I'm I'm enjoying it. I'm
just taking it as it comes and letting things happen
kind of organically so that I don't try to stress
too much. And it's been working. I'm learning how to

(01:10:08):
calm down and not control things and just let it happen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Going well, Hello, yeah mm hmm, I love that so much.
Thank you for sharing that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Yes, thank you. I'm excited. I can't wait to see
what's in store for you in two to five years
because I know me and man they were trying to
have this podcast in two to five years, so.

Speaker 4 (01:10:38):
Right, and we're trying to go on tour too, and
I would love the opportunity to see the space that
you guys have.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
And oh, absolutely, anytime you find yourself in Illinois, give
me a shout out. We'll make it happen.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
I'd love to have you check it out, so and
do a virtual tour for everyone so they can see
what it looks like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Yeah, I know, do one of those Instagram live videos
that Brand was talking about today. I'm like waiting for
the new space to be open enough to do that.
So hopefully January that's.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
What we're hoping for.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
So love it. That sounds so awesome, And thank you
so much for being willing to be seen as the
face behind mistera Ariels the interview, you were saying that
everyone was wondering, So thank you for being willing to
share that story and that journey because.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
It's I know it's going to be super inspiring. It
already inspired me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
And celebrating a year, so.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Yeah, thank you. Yeah, it's exciting. It's exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
That is jeez, so much to think about, right.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
Right, have any ideas now for the futures. Thank you
so much for everyone for listening to and watching this
episode of Pull and the Call podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
My name is Mandy mack.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Zoe.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
We We did not prepare you for our ridiculous ending.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
I mean, I mean, I have two different stocks. That's
kind of my signature thing. My students always ask me
if I'm wearing two socks that match they're like, is
everything okay. It helps me track, It helps me know
my right arm is a sleeve, you know, a tattoo sleeve,
so I always know which is my right arm, so
then I just got to remember which stock. And then

(01:12:36):
it makes it easier for me when I'm reviewing my
videos to go, oh, okay, I know where I'm at,
So you were prepared then, yeah,