Pole and Burlesque Performer & Coach, Gin-ni Gelato

Pole on the Call — Season 4
Pole & Burlesque Performer & Coach, Gin-ni Gelato

In this episode, Cris Rivers & Mændy Mac interview pole and burlesque performer and coach, Gin-ni Gelato! She shares insights about her amazing pole dance journey and some tips about healing from pole injuries, too.

BIO:
Gin-ni demonstrated a passion for dance from a young age. With expertise spanning Chair Dance, Pole Dance, and Burlesque, she has showcased her talents in productions like Lucky 13 and PSO Pole Sport Organization. Additionally, she teaches at Love Pole Fitness and the Bar.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, hey, hey everyone, I'm excited to be back. We're
here with another episode with Poll on the Car. I'm
Chris Rivers and I'm Mandy Mack. So we're here with
the incredible Poll and burlesque performer and coach Jenny Gelato.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hi guys, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Thank you so much for being here with us.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yes, I am glowing and excited.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yay right, We're so excited to learn more about you
because you have so many things you do, even beside Poll.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yes, many hats.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
It was so fun we got to meet you in
person briefly at PSO Northeast.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yes. Always a good time seeing you guys. Yes, I
worked with you, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Brilliant judge. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
We had a great time.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yes, so much.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Mandy's the best person work with. I will tell you
so far. I know one year in we'll see now.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Just kidding, but let's get started with the beginning of
your poole journey. What brought you to pole dancing?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
So, I was a dancer when I was little. I
did like jazz and tap in ballet, and I was
one of those cute little ballerina children. And I deliver
like five or so years and my studio closed, and
I kind of stopped dancing, and it was very sad,
but like you kind of don't know when you're a kid,
you know what I mean, You don't know any better.

(01:38):
You just kind of go along with life and everything.
So something was missing from my life, I feel like,
and into my teens. As soon as I was in
my twenties, I feel like I understood that I was
missing something. So I started looking for dance studios to
fill that creative void, if you will. And I found

(02:01):
a studio called Diosa, which is no longer there unfortunately,
and I took all the classes there and it was
a really lovely little dance studio and I actually, funnily enough,
did not take any pole classes there, which is crazy
because they had poles. They were the only pole studio
I knew of back in like, oh my gosh, when
was it like before, like twenty fifteen. It was a

(02:24):
while ago. But I was intimidated by the polls, wicked
intimidated at that point. So I just did like all
the dance classes, the chair the burlesque, and I started
my burlesque career back then. I actually worked with Maureen Lawler,
who is a choreographer, and she helped me with my
first burlesque debut, if you will, at Lucky thirteen, and

(02:47):
that was a really exciting time, which is still going
to this day. It's an amateur burlesque competition in Boston,
and I highly recommend everybody look it up. It's a
wonderful time, really really inclusive, amazing people that run it
and work it and perform at it, so it's really cool.
I actually did a pool burlesque show there, or a

(03:11):
performance there at the Burlesque I'm sorry, at one of
the showcases for the veteran performers. It was really fun.
But going back, yeah, I didn't take any pool classes,
but I fell in love with like small studios, independent
run studios like that kind of like vibe of like

(03:31):
family and dance and love and all that stuff. That
studio ended up closing, and I actually moved closer to
this area, which is I'm in Holliston, Massachusetts, so I
kind of moved closer here. Was looking for a new
dance studio. I think I googled dance studios and I
found love Pool Fitness and I took a pool class

(03:56):
for my first time, and it was with the Majestic
Tobin Crosby, who is the owner of Love Poole Studio. Yes,
everybody's clapping because she's amazing and we all love her, right,
and she kicked my butt and I came back the
next day and I fell in love with pole. I've

(04:16):
been doing it since twenty seventeen. I believe that was
my first pole lesson, and then I've been teaching pole
for five years, so I kind of just fell in
love with it. As you do, one thing led to another.
I took training certification and I love teaching pool. It's
so fun.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
I love some so scientists here, so many studios clothes.
But did you find your background with dance help? Did
you find that I helped you when you started going
into burlesque, and then did you find all of that
helped you when you started transitioning more to pole?

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Good question. Yeah, definitely, definitely the dance helped me with
burlesqu for sure, because you know, the choreography, the timing,
all that jazz. And I don't know what helped me
with pole. I mean, pole is very dancy as well,
but you can be very you know, you can give
pole arena or you can be like a trick poller

(05:16):
who is just like doing strong moves all day. So
you know, it was a transition. I had to build
up those muscles, as we all do, right, but it helped.
I think it helped a lot with my flow for sure,
having that kind of training deep down.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
What would you say is your favorite style of hold hands.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
So hard? I feel like I love everything, but I
do like I do kind of tend to go more
towards the slow and slinky stuff. I feel like it
used to be a lot more into tricks and I
just don't care anymore. It's terrible, which we can get
into later the reason for that. But I yeah, this low, slinky,

(06:07):
the stuff that kind of like you just like go
into a meditative trance because you're dancing. That's what I like.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
It's been so long since I've gone into that trance.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
No, we got to get you back there. Yes, I agree.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Have you been able to experiment with mixing poll with
the other styles that you enjoy?

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yes, I have. I actually teach sometimes it's not on
the schedule right now, but I teach a class called
poll Lesque. It might be my trademark. I don't know
if anybody has ever coined that term before maybe, but
it's basically at what it sounds like is poll and
burlesque mix together. I do chair, I do poll. I
sometimes do chair and poll mix them together, do all

(06:57):
kinds of crazy acro stuff. And it's basically just like
sexy choreography, sometimes with strip, sometimes not combining all the
things I love. So yeah, puh less.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yes, there a Poleste competition back stuff. I think they
were I don't know how many years, was like two
or three, and I loved how you could combine those
two beautiful sexy forms.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
And like the combinations and things you can do or
like endless. It's very fun.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yes, may I asked, do you have any tips for
people who might be looking for ways to kind of
combine a little burlesque with poll or something else with.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Poll Ooh yes, don't overthink it, it's a good one.
Keep it simple, don't do too many costume pieces. You're
just gonna weigh yourself down and get stressed out. So
start with like a simple shirt strip. Take that slow,
humanly possible, you know, like one, pick one thing first

(08:03):
and perfect that.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
That is amazing advice because honestly, like I have enough
hard time trying to dance with the pole and then
you add a chair, I'm.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Like yeah, yeah, or a strip or you know, like yeah,
it definitely you don't think about it, but adds up
and it kind of can stress you out.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yes, yeah, it doesn't help that sometimes we're creating pieces
with a time limit because of like certain competitions. Yes,
you hit the nail on the head kind of like
adds more to the stress. You can't be free with
this certain pieces.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, that's why I say start simple. Don't Yeah, don't
do to try to do too much because you will
bog yourself down and get stressed out and you're not
gonna have fun when you're doing that, So don't do it.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
I love. If you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
That's right. Oh.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yes, we went into a little bit about teaching, but
I mean, would you like to go into more what
do you teach teaching? Maybe a little about your certification?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, sure, all right. I have like a mocktail that's
like juice and fruit and lime and seltzer and it's
so yummy. It's my favorite during the week, vitamins and water.
So yes, I am a teacher. I teach I'm trying
to get to more studios and that's how I found Mandy,

(09:40):
and that's how I'm teaching at Pool in the Wall
every once in a blue moon. I do live a
little bit far away. Yeah, we're all dancing, you know,
a little far away, so it's hard for me to
get there like weekly or whatever. But I've been trying
to get my butt out more and more. So definitely
keep it your eyes peeled. I'll be doing a sexy
workshop there coming up, burlesque sexy choreography. And then yeah,

(10:06):
I have one actually at Cape Cod Poole coming up.
Oh my gosh, it's in March. It's like a Saturday
in March. I forget what the data is. I can
look it up a little later. But I love doing
workshops at other studios that really trying to push myself
to meet and network and stuff. I love meeting new
people and new students and such. But my home based

(10:27):
studios are Lovepool Fitness and the Bar. Love Poole Fitness
is in Millis, Massachusetts. We're actually in a gym, so
it's really cool. We have a lot of like facilities.
We have like a sauna. It's really nice and I
teach shar dance there and poll pull one poll too.
I love, I actually love poll one. I love introducing

(10:49):
people to pole. It like gets me going. It like
it's so satisfying and in nerdy way. You guys know,
you know how it is. They're shaking your heads up,
we know. And then I teach at the bar. I
teach a burlesque class called Last Call Burlesque, and it's
every It's like the last riety of the month, so

(11:10):
that's what we call it, last last Call. If you
haven't been to the bar or or love Poole Fitness,
please check them out. They're lovely. And that's it right now.
I just got a new job, so I haven't been
teaching as much as I usually do. I used to
do like three or basically four or five classes a week,

(11:31):
and I had to cut back a little bit. But
hopefully as I'm like getting into my nude muggle job situation,
I can teach more as I get more comfortable with
my commute and such.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yes, yes, the balance is hard, it is. Yes. We'll
have all those links in the comments on the coast.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Thank you, Yes, and you can check out past podcast
episodes with looch of the bar.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
And Tobin.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Handy.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, please do. They're all amazing and wonderful.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
It's super inspiring.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yes for sure, Tobin's my poll mom.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yes, do you teach any online classes?

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Not at the moment, but I've been thinking about adding
more into my repertoire. I used to do a Sunday
stretch class called Splitty City where we would work on
our hips and our splits and really get a gooey
and I'm thinking of bringing that back on Sundays and
that has a virtual option as well.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I love the names splitty City.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Lady City. Yeah, because everybody's always complained. They're like, ah, well,
we'll come to my class, thank you.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Do you always have like really fun names for your classes,
Like I remember one it was called ask Class.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yes, Ask Class. Oh my god, I love that class.
It's so satisfying. I do love to twerk. That is
one of my favorite things to do. It's fun, Yes
for sure. Yes, I'm trying to get more virtuals on
the menu, So stay tuned. And you guys are really

(13:19):
good with that poem. Well, we don't have a lot
at love Pool right now, but we need to. We
need to get into the technological era.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah, some people come out from it from everywhere.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
It's true.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, it allows us, It allows you to meet people
in places you might not normally meet, which is I.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Love virtual classes for sure.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Then finds it's a little different feel from that being
in person, but it's true.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, like you can't spot or anything like that, but
you can still have a really good class.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Agreed. Ge. Let's go into some competition and performance.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Oh yeah, oh man, So I've actually only been in
PSO once, which is crazy. I've been a bunch of times,
like as a spectator and as a judge and a volunteer.
That I was only in PSO one time in twenty
twenty three as showcase.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
You killed it.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
I know. It was such fun. I know, I know,
I just say it like that. I had a lot
of fun with it, how about that. But I'm not
a big competitor, so I'm never like I need to
compete because it just takes me too nervous. So i
just did suitcase just to have fun and get good

(14:45):
photo video because that was just came out awesome.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah yeah, those those are really memorable photos and videos
from then. It was such a good thank you. I
realized it was showcase.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, it was showcase, but he was like, why did
you do that? I'm like, I because I wanted you guys, okay,
leave me alone.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Look like, that's fun and when you have fun during
a piece, it's I find the audience and joys and more,
and it's it's fun for you as well.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Definitely, I think I did get the judge's comments because
I did the showcase. Plus they don't have anymore for
some reason. But they were all like, your charisma, your
is your face, and I'm like, b lesque, baby, that
burlesque will help you get that face and that like

(15:36):
charisma and that attitude that a lot of people struggle
with with their performance.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
They really did. Would you offer any tips on how
you help improve that?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Well? I think a lot of mirror worship is probably
a number one. Flirt with yourself, Okay, I know, and
it's very hard because it is so personal. I think
what you're trying to convey through your dance and your
performance and your routine, it depends on like a million

(16:10):
different factors, right, But I always just flirt with myself.
It's so dorky.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
I agree, I do the same, but it is hard.
Days you don't want to look at yourself in the mirror,
and another.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Day that is true. That is true. Then you just
have to fake it till you make it. Baby.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
I started recording for the days I don't want to
look at the mirror. I just it's like, okay, I
just watching to record it to myself. It's not actually
looking in the mirror.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, you know you're recording yourself, so you're like, okay.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Fine, yeah, too funny. Thank you for those tips of course.
Oh goodness, Uh, I can't even remember what track we're
on with the question, I know.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Do tea? Do you teach any just like straight up
burlesque classes.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Or I do? Yeah, at the bar, I have the
Last Call Burlesque, which is straight burlesque where we like
we'll do gloves one week, we'll do boas, we'll do
you know, dresses, bras panies, all that jazz on special
ty burlesque stuff. My chair class. I do bring a
little burlesque into chair. I like, can't help myself. But yeah, no,

(17:26):
like straight like weekly burlesque classes, just the one at
the bar. So definitely check out Last Call up Burlesque.
It's not a virtual action. But as I said, me.
You know, I've been trying to work more of those
in so maybe that's something that will be popping up
in the future. I am. I did a stint of
performances last year I had don't have anything coming up,

(17:49):
but I'm trying to get into a few shows, probably
for the end of the year in the falls when
I like to perform. So yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Continued and I need to.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Get out to what is it pints and pasties and pints?
A couple of your students are in, right is that.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Was called Pasty's and probably a kaa Ladybird fixing.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yes and Stella. Right. I need to get my butt
out there. I want to go so badly. It looks
like a fun time. Have you guys been not yet?
It's but yeah, let's go out.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah. It's thanks to Molly too. She kind of like
did all of that in this area.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I think that's awesome. It's a lot of work producing
a show, God I did. I produced one virtual burlesque show,
which was a lot of fun. That was during the
pandemic when we were all shut inside and my partner
and I were like, let's produce our ound burlesque show show.
We had like people submit their videos and there was
actually a lot of pole routines which was awesome, very crossovery,

(19:01):
like poll a burlesque pole esque if you will, and
it was great. It was a lot of work. It
was Halloween themed, which was even cooler because I'm a
big Halloween and it went really well. But like, I
can't even imagine trying to produce an in person show
the amount of work that must go into that. So
that's something that's actually on my roster. Also, I want

(19:23):
to co produce a show in probably the summer, so
keep your eyes peeled for that. It's a lot of work,
but I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
What else are we going to do?

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I know at least one time. I do like the
virtual shows as how it is.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, they're fun.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
They are.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Maybe speaking of By the time this episode comes out,
your video submissions will be due for our online showcase.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yes, that's been on my radar as well. Too many things.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Open to all pull dancers. We just want a network
and show you off.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
It's really cool. I love that so much. I will
share that for sure.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Love it. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yes, yes, doing so many amazing things.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
I appreciate that it is hard. Mandy is like the backbone.
I'm in the back end.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
You're the booty bone. Yeah, the boy boy bone. Yes,
I don't know what that means at all.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
It's working, that's always. Yes.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I'm glad. I'm very glad.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah about us. I know earlier we mentioned we went
into a little bit about injury, injury prevention and three
would you like to slowly go into that and maybe
why we were talking about it slowly going?

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yes, I know, I don't like bringing it down either,
but it's something very important and very near and there
to my heart is injury prevention and also kind of
like not even just like injury, but like mental, mental
health and poll and just taking care of yourself. It's

(21:26):
very important. So in twenty twenty two, was it twenty
twenty two, Yes, twenty twenty two. I had a tiny
fall off the pool, something that you would think you
would bounce back from, no problem. I'd fallen a million
times before. You fall, you just get back up again,
you bounce, you do whatever. I felt like two feet

(21:48):
and then I ended up breaking my shoulder and having
to have surgery. So it was really bad. It was
the dumbest shit ever, like something you like you would
never or think would happen. And I had been pulling
for years, you know, there's a fluke. I can't explain
what was going through my mind, if anything at all.

(22:09):
I just know a few things. I know that I
was pulling like three or four times a week. I
was coming to the studio too much, doing too much,
not getting enough sleep, not getting enough food or water.
Probably I was overdoing it right, And I was also
very tired from the previous day, So I think there's
a lot of things working against me that particular day.

(22:33):
It was a very arguous and long recovery. I had
to get surgery. As I said, I had my arm
in a sling for almost a month. It was bad.
It was really bad. My mental health suffered so so
much from that, and it's something I like to talk

(22:54):
about to get it out of me and like to
hopefully raise awareness for my you know, other fellow dancers,
to take care of yourself and don't push yourself too hard.
It's just not worth it. Like I, I can't state
it enough to my students now. If you're learning something
for the first time and you don't have a spotter.

(23:15):
Just get a mat. You don't know if your hand's
gonna slip. You don't know if you're going to do
a right hand instead of a left hand. Your brain
does a lot of farts all day. Mine does all
the time. So it's it's just like take the ego
out of the room and.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Put a mat down.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
I don't know, that's that's what I say, just to
prevent any injury and yeah, get rest, don't do too much. Yeah,
it was. It was crappy. I was out for like
a good year, Like I was healing for four months.
I basically hand to stood on my couch while my
bones like healed back together again like like Humpty dumpty

(23:55):
or something. I watch a lot of my like comfort
shows and got it to ASMR. So, you know, good
things came out of it. My love for lo Fi,
I'm pretty sure it came from that injury. And I
had to take like I think it was like three
or four months more of physical therapy learning to use
my arm again, because it was like completely like I

(24:18):
don't know, how do you call it. It's like it
started like, you know, the muscle's shrunk because I wasn't
using it, so it was like, oh my god, it
was rough. I didn't know if i'd ever pull again.
You know, all those thoughts go through your head when
you have an injury. You're like scared and you don't

(24:39):
think you'll ever be the same again, and you may not,
and that's okay as long as you keep positive. I
would do my little push ups every day. You know,
all of your exercises compound you get stronger. But yeah,
it was a rough road. And I want to say
anybody out there who has an injury or had an injury,

(24:59):
like the people around you are the ones that like
keep you strong. Your loved ones, the studio girls, all
my girls came and visited me and brought me gifts
and stuff, and like I want to say, a lot
of people were like, oh, you're not going to go
back to poll right, And I'm like, actually i am.
And they were like you're crazy, and I'm like, no,

(25:22):
I'm coming out stronger and wiser and more mindful than
I ever was before. Like I can sense things like
a student is doing that's like a nope, nope, red flag, Nope,
red flag. So I think I came out a better
person because of it. As crappy as it was to

(25:44):
go through, and you know other dancers out there that are,
you know, struggling with a similar situation. You just have
to be patient and I hate that and it's like
time is like your worst enemy in that kind of
a situation. But just stay strong and just yeah, think
about what's important to you. If you, you know, want

(26:04):
to do something else for a while, you can try
out new things. Hobbies are important, and dance is important,
and movement is important, and there's like a million ways
to dance. So I don't know, it's not the only thing.
Well isn't the only thing, you know. I got into
liquid motion. I got back into like choreography. Yeah, I

(26:24):
love liquid motions so fun, And slowly worked my way
back to pole and kind of started over again, and
like your muscle memory comes back pretty damn quickly. I
was like, oh man, I'm going to be a little
weakling blah blah blah. But like I was like shoulder mounting.
Within like a few months, it was like it all
came back. Yeah, I know, which is like shoulder mout.

(26:48):
I never wanted to do that. I was like one
of my least favorites when I was first learning, I
was like, why would you want to do that? It's
so bad? But it came way back. It's like riding
the bike sometimes but more mindful and different but better.
I don't know, I don't know how to explain it.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Thank you for sharing that. I guess you're You're right though,
Like you do become more creative when you become injured,
because what else are you going to do? Yes, like
while you're in it, you're like, this will never end
and I'll never pull dance again, and it's like it's
so hard?

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Is it definitely teaches you to be more mindful, Like
m just recently had an injury and whole dance is
like my main thing. Again, Yeah, you can't always do
it and you have to rest or find ways to.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yeah, you have to adapt. You have to adapt and
humans are really good at adapting. So yeah, don't lose
faith in yourself. Just adapt is what I say.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Bring up like the mental health part of it too,
because because also like in addition to like the waiting
and like, how do you have to like grieve over
the situation? Yea, So for me, my when I tore
my hamstring, not my hamstring my a.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
C l oh, that's a rough one.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
And then I was like it didn't exist anymore and
they had to like make a new one. I was
like it was such a weird feeling, like I had,
like my knee, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, yeah, do you grieve like that past self.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
On? Yep?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yep, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
I can't imagine not having use of an arm though,
because like I got legs, you know, but like not
to use my arm, like not like that's the main
thing you use pole, yeah, like a shoulder injury.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yes, And I had to I'm sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
I just can't imagine like all the things that had
to like reheal, and like, yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Off because oh, atrophy, that was the word I was
looking for, because you're shit atrophies because you're not using
it because it's in a slang and you're like he
was like, oh, you need to stay as still as
possible so your bones go back together. And I was like,
this is this crazy. But and also when I started
getting back to pool, I would I would favor my

(29:20):
right side because actually I was very lucky in that
I broke my non dominant arm, Like imagine if I
broke my dominant arm. Oh my god, that would have
been crazy. I guess I would have become more ambidextrious.
Maybe that would have been a benefit. But I love it.

(29:42):
But I where was I going with that? Oh my god,
my brain just farted. But no, I I was. When
I was going back to pool, I was using my
strong arm, you know, getting lobster clap in here, even
more than I did before. Like before, I was really
trying to be good with the rights and lefts, and
then you know, you want to baby it and you

(30:04):
kind of can't do that. It's really not great. So
I started having problems with my right side because I
was babing my left side. You guys know that. It was.
It's funny. So I had to like be like, no,
we're doing the other side extra times to get it stronger,
because it's not going to get strong on its own,

(30:25):
you know. But I just went slowly back into it.
I took level one stuff. I would do conditioning, a
lot of conditioning.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yeah, thank you for mentioning, like going back to level
one too, because I think I see pulled answers coming
right back to like where they started, and I'm like, really.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, sure, did.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
No, you need to go back to one baby, get
that conditioning. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
I actually, I will say my first two weeks with
the Edward for I did go back to more abs
and more off old stuff, which was fun, but then
it was great. Was put on the fucking heels.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yep. I know.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Good times. I'm sharing those tips with this love it.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
But I you know, I can definitely I I utilize
all of those thoughts when I'm teaching too. I try to,
you know, give people advice and words of encouragement and morale.
That's like, what I want my student to get out
of my class is like I'm feeling awesome, I had
a great class. My confidence level is up. I'm feeling snacksy.

(31:39):
You know. That's that's my goal. That's the whole end goal.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Mm hmm. I love it. We want them to be
better than us and learn from our mistakes.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I love when my students like surpass me. I'm like,
you you may.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Go and you're doing it in my job.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, because you guys know how it is like, especially
if you're a teacher, you don't tend to take a
lot of classes because you're teaching so much. That was
me for a good while. So my students were like, zoo,
wasn't past, wasn't passed, and I'm just still teaching like
one two. I'm like, ash, shit, guys, it's great though,
it's wonderful. I'm happy to see it. It makes me

(32:24):
very happy. That's their pole journey. Okay, I'm on my
own pole journey right.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
That's what I'm glad you bring that up too, because
that's something I'm trying to impart on our teacher trainees
right now, because it's like that also happened to me,
Like I stuck at the level that I, you know,
was at when I started teaching. Yeah, it's what it is.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, I will say sometimes I feel stuck. But thankfully
our level three and four students which I get to
work with, they're always sending me stuff is say can
we try this? Can we try this, which motivates me
to train it, learn how to train it. My job
helped me kind of learn without like I want to

(33:07):
be a student, but it's helped me kind of learn
things that I normally wouldn't work on because they requested today.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
That's awesome. I love that. Yeah. We used to have
a class called work for Real at Lovepool and it
was like, send me your videos and I will break
them down for you. Send me your five million Instagram
videos that you saved, because I know I've saved a
million of them myself. So that was a really that's
a really cool class concept that was Toven's idea.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Did people take it seriously or were they say most
ridiculous things to make you both.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Mandy both my god, Like, I'm gonna mention Sherry because
I love her and she maybe she'll listen to this.
She would send the craziest things that are like three
four and this is like one chu class and I'm like, Sherry,
you're insane. I love you, but I know, but here's
a progression. Yes exactly, this is what you need to

(34:04):
do to work up to that. But we're not doing that.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Today's so funny, right. I feel like students would definitely
like play jokes.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yes, yes, yeah, I reisually would. I don't think anybody
did jokes, but maybe they didn't. I just didn't know.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
And then you did it and they were like, oh,
jokes on me.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Hah. There are some weird moves that I really like
that nobody else likes. Like what I really like, Sunflower
is that it's called sunflower. I don't know. It's very prezzily.
It's like a sit, but you like are crossed over
your legs in front all crazy. I really like that move.

(34:51):
I think it might have another name.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Is this seeded not seeded not?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Maybe it's so.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Hard they all have such name. Sometimes.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, you like come around and you like grab your
legs and you're in this kind of like funky.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
It's so.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
But the problem is, I think a lot of moves
I have very open hips, Like I can do crazy
splits and straddles because I've been practicing them. As I said,
I did Spillity City for so long, so I've got
pretty good flexibility. And if you don't, it can be
very challenging too. So I tend to really warm up
my students' hips before we try anything like that, or

(35:31):
I try to. But yeah, it's hard. We all have
different bodies and different shapes and different flexibilities. It's a
tough world up in the pole world. Man.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
We all need different times to warm up different exercises.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
It's as I'm getting older, I feel like I need
like an hour warm up before and sometimes especially in
the winter, it's just like.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Like do anything else you need, and I'm like, we
don't have time. You have time for me, Let's just continue.
I'll be open.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
It's hard because I didn't learn that, but by with
body by friend that like after forty like they should
be warming up at least twenty minutes. That sometimes you
can't always do that the time.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
I definitely struggle you warm up Yeah, yeah, my head
and neck every day.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yep, the shoulders, the hud, the neck. That's smart pre
warm up. I love that idea. I need to do
that more often.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
We could have an extra portion of the class. I'd
be like, if you're forty enough and it's before the
class starts, because we'll be starting then Yes, I love it.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
That's fantastic. I'll be there. I'm not even forty yet,
but I'll be there.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Yeah. Would be a good idea.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Period right for anybody who else who wants a longer
warm up.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
I love it. I know it's hard to because do
you guys do more dynamic warm ups or do you
do more like it, uh like passive warm ups.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
I try to incorpor I was always trying to incorporate both,
but mostly dynamic. Authority of the passive or the cool
down exactly.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
I say, right when you get your pancakes split at
the end, when you're just like, as we'll sit down.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
The end. This is all.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Like some stretches in the beginning, but not too many.
It's really supposed to warm you up.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Same, I guess I depinds on like the class what
you're going to teach too, because yes, sometimes you would
need to do some splits.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Stuff like where we're working on flex stricks definitely longer, yes, yep,
I agree.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Cool, right, this is good. Thank you for bringing all
of this up because I love it. Yeah, because sometimes
you know, everyone's so different with their warm ups too.
I know, like studio, if you miss a certain part
of the warm up, you can't take class.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
I know. Some other studios are really lenient, and I'm like, every.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Studio does it differently. Yeah, it's crazy. So we if
you miss my warm up, I will make you like
we have a warm up sheet and you have to
choose so many out of that and do it on
the side while I'm running class. So that's what we
usually do it love pool. But that's the problem too,
is like how do you know they're warming up effectively,

(38:46):
can't deny on everybody. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
We had a late to class warm up sheet as well,
we used to have.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
But I do like that though. I appreciate that because like,
you can really get hurt if you don't warm yourself up.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, and sometimes students are just always late.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
That's the world I know. As an instructor, if you're
late to a class, it's like ten times worse because
you're an instructor. You should know better. Do you feel
that way? Right?

Speaker 3 (39:24):
I try so hard to get there at least like
ten minutes before, but there's been so many times when
I'm there like five minutes before, and I'm like, one
sees me's doing that's doing that?

Speaker 2 (39:39):
I know, I know the struggles real.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Usually when I teach nights, I can get there about
a half hour earlier. If I teach maybe twenty minutes.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah. Yeah for me too.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, I will literally live at the studio because I
know myself. And if I, like say, I go directly
home and I have like an hour to kill, I
will be late. But if I go straight to the studio,
I will be productive and have a nice warm up
and hang around and be social. But yeah, you have

(40:13):
to know your own timing mind and how that works.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
These are good tips that I am off following because
I find like I'll be doing the same exact thing
at home that I'm going to do at the studio anyway,
So like just go there, just.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Go just get there. Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Well, do you have any like go to warm ups
that you have, like any that, yes.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
I have, I mean I do. Yeah. I also do
kind of like a cardio. My brain's not working like
a total body workout. Sorry. I look up total body
workouts on YouTube and I find stuff that has kind
of like a little bit of everything, and say, you know,
if I'm doing more splits, I'll add in more like

(41:05):
you know, the legs the bottom half of the body,
or if I'm doing more shoulder stuff, all out in
more of the top part of the body. But I
just have like a laundry list, a collection, a dictionary,
if you will, an encyclopedia of just exercises in my brain.
Now that I just do total ten minute total body workout.
I found it on YouTube. It's thirty seconds of each

(41:28):
exercise and you go at your own pace for that
thirty seconds, Like you don't need to like keep up
with anybody. You don't need to count. I'm doing the timing,
and then we have like a break in the middle
for water, and then we keep going. So you do
like planks and sit ups and jumping jacks and just
get the blood pump. And I love this.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Yeah, so we're again our teacher trainee is one of
the biggest issues they they're having or putting together their
warm ups and then everyone's got a different warm up
style and I'm like, you have to come up with
their own warm up stone. This is another great option.
I actually hadn't even thought of doing it like that.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, it's I think it's nice for me personally. I
like I do it on my own and you don't
have to really think. You don't have to count, which
I hate counting during exercise. It's like the bait of
my existence. And you know, everybody can go at the
different pace, Like I can do like a million situps
in a row because I've been doing pole for seven

(42:27):
years or whatever. It been seven years, five years. Oh
my god, it's been seven years. That's crazy because I
you know, I can do planks for a long time.
I can do push ups for a long time. But
like me doing sixteen, you know, like two sets of
eight or something is gonna be a lot different from
someone who's just started, you know, their pole journey, who's
not very strong yet. So they can go at their

(42:50):
own pace and they know their limit and how slow
or fast they need to go. So yeah, I like
the total body ten minute thirty second intervals.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Training and that also, oh, let's everyone like more bodily autonomy,
so they're like, I listen to myself and I know
I want for myself exactly Mandy.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
I find like warming like warm ups, change them up,
like experiment, have fun things like the total body work out.
It's cool to have your own style, but definitely having fun.
I love something them up when they use each other
me push ups and you have to clap the.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yes, I haven't done this in a long time, Chris,
I'm gonna bring those into class now, thank you.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
And you're you're stating at the pole facing each other
and you yell okay, jump squats you're right, jump squats
your left, and you got.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Oh my god, I love that.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
That's so really good. Yeah, it's fun to experiment with
the warm ups.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
I love doubles. Anything. I I this is a good
Devils class. We haven't had one in a million years.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
US do doubles and people. It's long overdue.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
A couple I want to come, I'll come. I'm kidding you.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
We definitely need to plan one wanted to put a
workshop for me and a.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Couple of people have asked.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
It's so fun.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Get that going. In addition to rescheduling, Jinny Gelatto.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
US take me back. The snow wouldn't allow me out
the door. Awful.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah, I'm glad everyone was safe though.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Yes the main factor. Yeah, yes, excellent. You guys rock.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Any other up and coming things coming soon?

Speaker 2 (44:48):
I was trying to think of stuff like I don't
have any performances. I know that we're going to have
a showcase at Loveful Fitness in April, so that's really exciting.
I think, God, how many years have we been open.
I think it's like, oh my god, probably like fifteen
years or something total, and we've been in our our space. Tobin,

(45:12):
don't kill me. I think it's three years. Three years maybe,
so it might be like an anniversary type thing where
we usually have a showcase. We have Burlasque, we have poll,
we have chair performances. We have class and solo performances
from the teachers and the students. We have food, we
have schmoozing. It's also fun and yeah, follow me Jinny

(45:38):
Gelato on Instagram and I post fun stuff.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Well, I love it Orange. We didn't ask the questions
do you have a favorite Poe Trick or a Poe Nemesis?

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Ooh, great question? Did it write down? Let's see, I
was on the train earlier and I was doing all
my questions answers. So it's hard. Fave pull trick, anything splitty,
of course, respectfully. And then I like cross Ankle, laidbacks
a lot, really fun. My least favorite, which I'm getting

(46:19):
better at but I still hate with a burning passion,
is Brass Monkey.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
I know, why is it like that?

Speaker 2 (46:31):
I don't know. It shouldn't be. It should not be.
I'm working on it.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
I know everyone's trying to help me with it too,
and I appreciate it so much, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Is it one of those movies you just hate it
or you love it?

Speaker 3 (46:45):
It's so beautiful, like if there's so many cool things.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
I know, Yeah, I need like brass mon. Brass conditioning
is what I need because every time I do it,
I'm just like, oh, this is a terrible time, Like
through it, get through it the pain.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Still do the hip rays, hook the brass and try
to do a crunch with it. Those are some of
the best.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Okay, yeah, like from the floor.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Yeah, I got to back it up to those for sure.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Love that. Yeah, I need to get back to a
breast conditioning.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Then the negatives. Genie to a brass it helps you,
that's true.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
I do like that one.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
I like that entry definitely. That was like the only
way I could get into brass. For a long time.
I couldn't even do like the fart seat thing.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
The part seed is hard.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
I couldn't do it. It like looks so easy and
you're like, what the hell's going on with my legs
and my thighs. So the genie to brass is a
very good entry for you to get in that sweet
spot I feel like, which is hard to do.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Yeah, you call it the fart seat like that made sense? Yay, excellent,
But yeah, I think it's the hardest way.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
I've grown to love it. But it was hard. When
Paulina used to try to teach me how I used to
be like, what the fuck is.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
I think the more you do it, the better it gets.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Too.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
I can't say that I do a lot of brass anymore.
All my most of my classes are like level one
or choreography. Right now, I'm not in a the poll
versus much anymore, but things change, so I'm kind of
missing it. So you never know what's on the horizon.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Sometimes we just back and tried different things, like.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
And choreography takes like so much most of my time.
You guys know, Choreo's heart insane. How much time choreography takes.
It's insane.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Always needed creating choreo. For choreo classes, I find it
so much easier to create like a levels class mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Way easier, yeah, because you have like a like standard
of stuff. Choreography is just like the creative juices, like
you can't I mean, I guess you can borrow. You
can definitely borrow moves from everywhere, but you have to
string them together, whereas like a regular like poll class
is a lot more routine and structured.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Always string up together. But teach other people that you
just create a.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
They want it to a certain song.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
It's like, yes, yes, that's what I do all the time.
They love it, I know, but it's so fun. I
love to do on the fly choreo though. With classes
it's really fun, Like we build a choreo, Like we'll
put a song on and I'll be like, Okay, you're
gonna do the first part, and then you're gonna add on,

(49:49):
like the next student's gonna add on to it, so like, okay,
we get to the chair and then what oh, then
we're gonna do a straddle then what Like it's I
love to build a bear choreo. Those are really fun to.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Do too, and I forgot about it.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, get it exercise, Yeah, yes, built.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Up there coreo that's coming in March.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
I love it. I'll be there.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
All right. It's too funny.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Oh oh, your hand and body grip.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
I put in the cold months, in the cold winter,
I like due point, And in the warm of summer,
I like to get a grip or the dry hands. Yeah,
because then the cold months I have no oil on
my skin whatsoever, I turn into a dry husk. So
dew point gives me that like little bit of stick

(50:50):
that I need without being dry. It has like I
think it's like glacerom based right mainly.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Right that one was always too it was too stick
for me. But yeah, it's sticky moisture.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
I use the light light one or the medium one.
It's not too bad. I use a little bit and
it moisturizes and I really like that. And then yeah,
the warmer months, when I'm sweaty, I don't want to moisturize.
I'm too moisturized. So the dry Hands or the Ghetta
Grip does the job.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
I think the Ghetta Grip. I think we have some
at the studio sent Us want to try.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Yeah, it's basically it's basically dry Hands, Yeah, just in
a different bottle of it. I heard a rumor that
dry Hands the company does not like poolers, so that's
what I heard too, So yeah, I don't know if
it's true or not, but I was like, they're stupid.

(51:52):
They're missing that big market, Like, are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (51:56):
We got to be like at least ten percent of
their who's buying them.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
I don't know. Maybe we make us stand and have
them lose money.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Glass Well, Angelina is the owner of Gatta Grip and
she's one of my friends. So she she was like, oh,
I see I see a void in the market. Let
me step right in over here, get a grip.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Thank you for sending it to a poll in the wall.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
That's awesome. I'm glad you guys have it.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
It's great. Y, I love it. Uh goodness.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
You got a new job. Do you want to talk job?

Speaker 2 (52:43):
The nuggle job? Yes? So I was working in like
signage design for a long time. I got my degree
in art and graphic design years and years ago, eight
hundred years ago, and I worked any Ray Comics for
a long time, and I loaned that job. Yeah, And
but I went to school eventually, and I kind of
wanted to get out of retail because it was dead

(53:04):
dye for me personally. And I got my degree I got.
I was in signage for a long time and I
didn't really like it. It was very corporate and capitalistic
healthscape Nightmaryland. So I've been looking for something that was
like to myself in art and doing fun stuff. So
I now work at the Museum of Finance as the

(53:26):
design coordinator for the design department. It's pretty cool, Nrity.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Yes, congratulations, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Thank you. It's very cool. It's very cool place. Yeah,
And I work with art and it's it's so fun
and like seeing people like respond to art is so cool.
I like it.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Will probably inspire you more in your pol dance journey too.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Yes, I don't know how, but yes, let's go. I
want to you like whole dance sculptures. They're like weird
and abstract. I think that'd be a really cool exhibit.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
To the museum.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
I'll get I'll talk to the director right now. Get
a pole dance exhibit, sir, thank you.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
I'm waiting for like an artist poll dancer to like
do a routine in a bob add a little bob Ross,
like create something peace we dancing.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
That happened here, miss Jazz did that?

Speaker 1 (54:36):
You missed it?

Speaker 2 (54:38):
You remember it? Mandy?

Speaker 3 (54:40):
No, I don't think it was a bob Now, we've
got to look it up.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
I'm not crazy. Yeah, there was a bob Ross one.
It was fantastic. It was so much. That wasn't last year,
it was another year. But she definitely did it. And
then she did mister Rogers Neighborhood one too, which was
really fun. Tugger Cardigan Office, like, oh my god, amazing.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Although we'll have to look those up.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
I saw the surrounders. That was awesome too. Oh gee,
we've been asking a new question that's not on the list,
and it is what do you hope to see chained
or improve in the poe industry?

Speaker 2 (55:24):
I know, a man lets taboo surrounding it from people,
and more love man facts. It's such like a like

(55:45):
a Miss America answer. I want more love, man, want
more love, you know, like, don't be catty. I don't know.
I just want bowlers and dancers to support each other,
and I want a people to support poolers and sex
workers and all those magical, wonderful unicorns.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Facts. Let's all make love and money together.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Yes, let's just get rid of money though we don't
need it. It's fine like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh soon.
I don't know where this world is coming to anymore,
but uh you dance it out. Dance is good therapy.

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So it was a good.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Therapy talk about mm hmmm. But yeah, I know, so
thankful for Poldians and it's so always so thankful for
conversations with amazing pool coaches.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
See me, like like I was having like inner turmoil
all weekend about like teaching, and like oh god, no,
it's it's so good to like reconnect with other people
you know, who are in the same boat as you,
and like you just reinspired me and I feel, oh, you.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Inspire me all the time, both of you do. I
love you so much. I'm sure. It's so far away.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
I feel like over like Boston, Worcester, everybody gets to visit,
but we're here, like Springfield, Connecticut, and it's not like.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
It's hard. It's tough. You gotta have more cool stuff
out there, guys.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
I mean, we have a casino. I love it, six Flags.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Oh all right, I do that. I love six Flags rollercoasters.
You got me.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
Longer I heard that. It's I don't know what. I
don't want to drinx it. I know, you know, is
that where that is?

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Yes, yes, I was kind of raised there. No, it's
not doing well words and so mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
I can't even imagine, Like that sucks.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Like, how do you have multiple fast lane tiers? The
point of paying all that money is so you could
be in the fast lane. Now you're telling me I
have to pay different prices to get different fast Really.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Yeah, that's some Disney bullshit right there.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
Yeah, that's over.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
It's crazy, like.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
We can't have nice things anymore. But at least they're
still pull dancing.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Yes, for sure, don't go to six Flags. Take a
pole class. For the price of one six Flags admission,
you could probably get two or three pole classes, I know.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
And you get so much more out of a pole
class than you would a silly old day at six Legs.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Those people working, they are going to support you. They're
going to pretend you don't even exist. Your pole teacher
gives so much time, so much energy, so much love.
I just think, yeah, unsung heroes. Man, I love it. Yes,
hip your pole teachers, they need it.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Teachers' start. I'll have a tip jar.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
I've had them out before, like private parties, because they
do private parties every once in a while. Nobody ever
they ignore it.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
No.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Sorry.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
I had a new student ask if they should tip
after and I was like, oh, you know yeah, because
they were like, you know when you go to get
your hair done, and like I was like, you're right,
but no.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
It's public service. Okay, you paid for.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
Your class, Like that's.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Yeah, I know. I I honestly I hate I hate
tipping culture. I think people should just be paid a
living wage. But you know, some people in the restaurant
industry might not a great because they make really good tips.
So I think there's that. It's a very controversial thing.
But yeah, I don't do it for the money. I mean,

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the money is nice, but I you know, I love
I love it. That's not my number one reason.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
I had this. Being like that I found Oh no,
I'm trying to make a living from it. Then obviously
I need to pay bills and yep, you gotta find
constant ways to refine the love.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Yes, that is true. I can definitely see that being
a little bit of a were down. But always you
have don't think go back in time to like when
you first started doing it, and hold on to that feeling.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, guys, I'm getting real
cheesy up and here you gotta hold on to that

(01:00:59):
feeling to start saying.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
I love it. I think best song for I forgot
the Ambassador ax ho dum, I can't even remember day.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Is that a different song?

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Yes, that's an eighties right again, I'm ninety nineties. I
sing theon alk.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
No one knew what I was singing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
You know, I knew it. I definitely knew it. When
you're talking about Chris, there's probably a million songs called
that there probably are you yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
O dumb? Oh oh, because I'm a little bit a
little unsteady something.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Oh yeah song.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
I hate pull dancing too. I'm like, do you know
what to be.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
A next questionnaire? What your least favorite pole song?

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
When that song would come out in the shuffle, I'd
be like, no, I'm not unsteady, I am fine.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
I love that. What's your least favorite pole song? So
played out?

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Oh that's good, Oh, that's real good. I hate dance Monkey.
It's not really a pole song though it's kind of
like it's in a lot of dance studios, though it's
usually like a warm up song. Sorry Lanny, but I
hate that song. I wanted to just scream every time
it comes on.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
I'm kind of tired of holy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Oh yes, m hmm. I did a chair routine dounholy,
and I was tired of unholy in the middle of
that routine.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Too unholy, too funny. This could get its own clip itself.
What's your least yes?

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Yes, yes, yes, Mandy, what was yours?

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
I was like, I feel like we all did a
dance to an holy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Oh yeah, multiple, probably too many.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
I guess, And I love this song too, but like
I see another routine to it. I put a spell
on you and I've done it too, which one any
of them? Any of them? Yeah, put a spell on you,
any cover of it anything.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
I did the scream in Jay Hawkins one and I'm
sick of it too. Yeah, it's just every good song.
But yeah, yes, I have a lot of love hate
for weekend songs. Hate love it makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
It's like the weekend. Just like the Pole Studios National
anthem Y.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Episode. Maybe what of those episode when we do random
clips from people.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
I love that. That's a great idea. That's really cute,
like the silly things they say. God, I probably had
like forty of them. Listn't back and be like, oh
my god, what verbal diarrhea came out of my mouth?

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Backfarts?

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
That was happening to me the other day. It was
so funny. But it's because I wasn't engaging my abs.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
The other day a student came to me and so
I was using your flash cards with the QR codes,
and you had me laughing because you said, have your
hand facing up and your thumb up, like if you're
giving yourself an.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
So specific I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Oh, like you're giving a sample to a doctor. Yes,
But then Molly said thumbs up for Pole, So now
I'm just like thumbs up because we love poles down.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
I love the cues. The cues are like the funniest ship.
Sometimes I don't even know what mine are. Like, all
my students could probably say something that I say. You
know that, you're just like, oh I do say that.
Oh like sniff the pit. That's a good one. I
didn't coin that one. I think who knows how many

(01:05:39):
Pole instructors before me coined that one. Uh yeah, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
You know, we know exactly. There was one Fifi Bamboo
gave us. I'll never ever forget. It's for the tulip scrap. Yeah, Scott,
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
The fart, Yeah, I'm gonna use that one now, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Yeah. I mean honestly, it helped me. I was not
getting brass for the longest time, and then Lanny machine
Gun Lanny that my hot wife. She's not really my wife,
but she said, pretend you're you know, seemed like you're
letting not a fart, And I was like, oh, that
helped so much, so much. I'll go there because it's

(01:06:34):
like an insane obleaque crunch, you know, and you're just
sitting there yet let one out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
She is too funny.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
I love lady. We got a good we got a
good pool fam up in New England. I gotta say, Oh,
actually I'm wearing and in Florida Gemma, I got her
shirt on. Oh goad, Yeah, I love her too.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
I got to reach out to her for interviews. She
said she would do it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Okay, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Time just goes so fast.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Speaking of time, now we've gone off on a tangent.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Yes, good quality content.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
But do you have any tips to share with any
poll dancers that are just starting or burlesque dancers that are.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Just okay for just starting? Be patient with yourself, be mindful,
don't push yourself and don't get the sucks. And then
for us old bitches, take baths, drink water and don't
forget to breathe.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
I love it. Thank you for sharing that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
For the oldies. The oldies need advice to you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Know what I mean, but just need some reminders.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Right, I'm going to take a bath after this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Yes, do it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Staffs are the best, but I can't believe I'm going
on almost ten years pole dancing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
It's oh, congratulations, that's exciting. What are you doing for
your ten year polniversary?

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
I don't know. Maybe I'll do an amateur strip night,
because that's how It's why I am doing a stripping
virtual stripping competition I'm hosting wanted that would be my celebration.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
How are you doing so many things, Chris? It's crazy,
it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
I truly appreciate that lack of sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
I'm gonna put sleep on my menu on my my
tips for the oldies. Now I'm adding to the list.
Get some sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Yeah, I definitely am working on it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
I know the hustle.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
What else are we going to do?

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
I know, inspire each other because Manthy is always busy,
and she kissed me motivated.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Trying not to be like. My whole goal these past
two years has been to try not to be busy.
Have I succeeded? No? But soon is Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Mandy, who who are your poem? Mama's or daddy's or parents,
a pole parent.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
All the ones who raised me?

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Yeah, I'm interviewing that you now, guys, get the you
know card? Oh, I'm serious?

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Uh? When in Vernon there was a studio called Pole
for the Mind, Body and Soul, and so that was
where I came back to. And then after that there
was a studio in Northampton called Bar and Pole and
the teacher was t.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
K okay Yah. After that, I like Whole for the Mind,
Body and Soul like that is like, damn, that's a
good name.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Yes, right, I love that studio. It was nice, but
is not there anymore?

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Sad a couple of classes with t K. She was three.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Yeah, I know TK. I have to look them up.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
Yay, right. I don't think she's around in the poll.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Foll world. Yeah, I have seen her around, but retired
resting on their laurels hopefully.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
Oh yeah, but that's those are my.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Yeah, that's cool. I love it, like Chris, if you
want to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Oh goodness. I've had a lot of different stages. Definitely
Mandy and Paulina because they were my first kind of
studio instructors.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
There was Paulina what's their handle?

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
An American polar Okay, Like Mandy helped me learn to
love flow, and Paulina helped me learn to love conditioning. Awesome,
We'll say the mother who helped me organize my training
and get real serious. If it would be Jamie Wong.
I took her pole dancer life coach with which was awesome,

(01:11:34):
that's cool. And then last was not least business wise
body by fran I took her teacher toolkit mentorship and
that changed like everything very nice.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
So yeah, that's a lot of parental I guess. I
guess if you really think about it, you know we
all probably have like many different.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
I was gonna say my poll dad.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Yeah, if you switch to rude, I love that, that's fantastic. Actually,
you know, thinking about it, like, I'll mention this with Towa,
she'll probably say the same thing. She was my pole mom,
but I was her burlesque mom because she had never
done any of that before. And she's performing now. She's
performing on Monday, this coming Monday, which is way after
when the podcast comes out. But she's rocking and rolling

(01:12:24):
in her burlesquiness. She's such a hot mama.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
I love.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
I hope she shares that postly she will.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
I was so excited to see that she's performing again.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
And if you guys ever get out to Boston, I
will take you to a burlesque show. We will have
a great time. Let's get that'd be so fun.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
I got to teach and take workshops out there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Yeah that too. There's so many great studios around Massachusetts.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Yes, from Baston, ye, but we will wait until the
weather stops throwing up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
I know you always want to plan things for this
time of year, and then you're like.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
I went hard with the planet and I forgotten no
weather factor.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
I know why we plan so much.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
I know winters meant for like himerd eating and eating pasta,
and that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
I think, shade, I just want to take like four us,
let's say something, love it. Yes, trying to finish this,
damn cat, I'll finish it one day.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Do we have any more questions? I think we went
through all of everything.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Yeah, yes, yay.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
Well, thank you so much Jenny Giletto for joining us
tonight and inspiring me and also hopefully and back at you.
Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
I talked to you for longer than like a passer
by a pso you know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Yeah, podcasting is intimate, man, It's really it's really nice.
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
It's been to be able to do this for so long.
It's hard.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
You meet so many people. I don't even meet them,
but like get to know them, like on a deep,
deep level that you would like never get to know
them if you didn't have the magical Internet.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
I'm so thankful we've created a place that we can
interview everyone, not just like the big I G TikTok
followers like I love to interview everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Yes, it's great. I really appreciate it. And you guys
are doing good work. Keep it up.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
Thank you so much, and thank you everyone for listening
to and watching this episode of Pull on the Call podcast.
My name is Mandy ma.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
He's oh yeah, we we're And you have Jinny Gelato
shades on and the shades and I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
It's too lazy to put them on, but you're there.
He's my shoe.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
The other side a gross