Pole Coach Molly / Burlesque Performer and Producer Ladybird Vixen

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, hey, hey everyone, welcome back. I'm excited to be
here for another episode of Poe on the Call.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
We I am Chris Rivers and I'm Mandy Meg.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yeah. So we are here today with pole coach Molly
Slash Burless, performer and producer Lady Bird Vixen. I love
it too funny.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Thank you so much, Molly for being here with us tonight.
Thanks for having me, and it's so funny.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
I was just saying, we get to finally learn more
about you, because like you've been a poll.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Coach for us for like what two years? Three years?

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (00:38):
Too, yeah, lying by Yeah, what it's time right, So finally, Mollie,
who are you?

Speaker 6 (00:52):
The first question.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Ostley, you were like super amazing, super inspirational poll coach.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
I'm so happy that you came to us and tonight
I'm super excited to learn more about your whole journey
and also your bolust journey because you've definitely brought burlesque
into a special happy place on the East Coast.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Since you've been here.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
But we should start at the very beginning with what
brought you to pole dancing.

Speaker 6 (01:24):
I actually really.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Loved the story because I was inspired by like YouTube
videos watching them late at night in high school. And
I don't remember what the first video I saw, but
it was more of a like contemporary lyrical, like really
well done full YouTube video.

Speaker 6 (01:42):
And I was obsessed.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
And so what I did was I bought a poll
on Amazon and got it delivered to my house, gaslighted
my parents that they said it was okay. Yeah, and
my dad set it up for me in the basement
because he was like, well, we're going to use a
level and install it correctly at least be safe. And

(02:06):
so I learned just from like watching YouTube videos and
did like home poll, but I never inverted until I
started taking classes at a studio. I was really I
had a high risk profile as a home poler, which
is what I always recommend not to immediately get into
that nonsense.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
But started taking classes in.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
All day twelve.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Wow, almost thirteen years ago. Goodness, I love it. Thank
you Molly's dad for setting up her first poll, because
now it's still here. I love that. That is awesome.
That is a funny story. Did you did you have

(02:59):
any like Dan background that you used to help you
with polled theirs or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
I did the usual, like I was in I did
a dance thing in elementary school, middle school center stage
Stars where I was in like lyrical and hip hop
and jazz and all the awful costumes.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
And it was like.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
A nine hour long recital on a Saturday where there
were just like I swear, hundreds of kids that performed
and I just like apologize to my parents every time
I see them for going through.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
But I definitely didn't like.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Intensely train anything and so but I had a yoga background,
which I think.

Speaker 6 (03:46):
Helped a lot.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
As far as body awareness went.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Sorry go ahead, and many oh my night hours on
a Saturday, I was just thinking about that. I can't
even imagine.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I was just remembering like that that sucks, like why
did we do that?

Speaker 6 (04:11):
Not good either, Like it's just.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
No no, and there's not even like breaks or anything,
no food.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
I learned to like change my clothes over and under
my clothes like be a dressing room was it was
at these recitals, and I like get comment, like get
complimented on that skill.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
How stealthy were exactly.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Because I'm ready fifteen girls in one room. So I'm
in a different phase in life now though, where I'm like,
well whatever backstage to for left show.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
It's definitely different.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
That was the training for.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
At leet.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Oh did you find How did you find the transition
from being a home polar It's of finally training in
a studio.

Speaker 6 (05:12):
I loved it.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Like the first couple classes I took in Colorado were
just like privates, and so when I first went, it
was very like task oriented almost, if that makes sense.
Like I was like, I want to learn all the moves.
I want to do the thing. I want to do
the things right, I want to do them in order remember.
And then it wasn't until I got to Fort Collins

(05:35):
where I was like, wait, I can have friends too
in a community, and this can like be like a
fun workout and a challenge and a distraction and a
nice time and good people and good vibes. And then
and then it was done. Like I was, it was like, cool,
this is my life. I understand never never anywhere else again.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
I love that you say that though, Like it's kind
of like.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
That, like if you were like a perfectionist, you could
come into this and just be like I'm doing all
the things. But then you're like, oh wait, I also
feel really warm and fuzzy.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
I definitely have to give props to Vertical Fusion and
Fort Collins, which was my first like home, not poll
at home, but home pole studio that I felt where
it was just like I got proposed to there.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
It's so important.

Speaker 6 (06:34):
So that is definitely one of my first Pole fan.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
I love that memories and it just goes myself fast.
When did you start making I'm sorry, Manny, I'm just
like running the show here. When did you start making
the transition from post studio post student forgive me to
pull instructor?

Speaker 4 (06:58):
I think three or four years ago.

Speaker 6 (07:02):
Three years ago I started teaching.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Almost a year before I moved to New England.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
So I definitely had a short.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Lived instructor phase in Colorado, but I trained there. They
had like an internal teacher training and so I taught
intro beginner like a heels class and then a booty
and chair class, and still went to as many classes

(07:41):
as they possibly could. So I definitely was a student
a teacher.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
How would you a student?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
I mean, as teachers, we should always be learning. I
love that students.

Speaker 6 (08:02):
Yeah, I think I've definitely.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Missed, like I've fallen away as a student since coming
to New England, for sure. So I definitely have a
harder time identifying as a pole dancer these days versus
apologe and like, but that's what everyone goes through. Like,
I feel like that's a common story, and there's like
ebbs and flows and it. I think it is just

(08:26):
because burlesque takes up such a big part of my
practice performer identity that it's not it doesn't necessarily feel
like a loss right now, like it can.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
But then I take my clothes off, and.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I'm like, it's fair, Yes, taking our clothes off makes
everything better, exactly. Do you mind going a little bit
into your burlesque history?

Speaker 5 (08:54):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah. So I stumbled into it on accident because the
studio that I started that I was at in Colorado
for a while shared a space with the one of
the burlesque troops and belly dance instructors in town. And
I just kind of, like on a whim, submitted a

(09:16):
chair act for a burlesque show and it was like
on my birthday weekend and it was just like a
whole thing. I was in a aerial dance troupe called
Sirens of the North. They don't exist anymore, but it
was that first pull fam again. We were like getting
hired for events and doing after dark stuff as well,

(09:40):
which was awesome. And so it was like, well, oh
and I and I, and I was an exoitage dancer
at some point too in college, and so I like
had the I was like, I pull dance, I've stripped.
Why can't I not pull dance and strip. I was like,
it's probably gonna be fine, and so I did, Like

(10:04):
I guest performed in one of the Cupcake Cabaret shows,
which they're still there, and then they invited me back
a couple of times since I was a guest performer
for them.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
A couple times.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
But that was my that was my Colorado burlesque life.
And then I moved here and I wanted to keep
doing it, and I was having a harder time finding
opportunities and so I just kind of made the plunge
and was like I'll make them.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
I'll figure it out as I go.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
It's so funny too, because like all like the students
when they come in they're interested in burlesque. I was like,
you better talk to Molly because she's already hijacked a
bunch of students.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
To do burlesque all over the place. So I hop
on that train. But like seriously, like all of the
did you ever produce any shows? And car Colorado was just.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Performing, performing, So how was what was the transition like
from like just performing to like finally creating a whole show.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Well, so it was actually when you and I were
discussing poll in the wall showcase opportunities and we had,
like for a minute, talked about potentially going to other
venues and then in those like details and the logistics
that we worked out, I had been inquiring with someone

(11:32):
and then pulling the wall in another direction, and so
I already had the contact and I was like, okay,
so never mind to a poll show, but like would
you do a burless show? And they were like, yeah, sure, whatever,
and so we So then Pine and Pasties was born.
And I did my first burless show at a brewery
and it was in New City Brewery in East Hampton, Massachusetts,

(11:55):
and it went so well, and we did another one
and another one, and then I found New England Cider
Company in Connecticut and that's all she wrote, I.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Guess, and now we're here the most two three years later.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I think the best thing about like the shows that
you produce too is like you'll put out workshops where
people can come to the workshops, and then you you
have like performance opportunities, so like you can come to
the workshop and just learn the.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Moves, or.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
You can perform, which is really empowering, and I think
you've really inspired a lot of dancers around here to
do the things.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
So hell yeah, well that's another thing that happened on accident.
I just my like just how my brain operates. I'm
just like constantly doing routines, and apparently I got bored
with solo routines for a second, so I was like,
what if I did a group one instead? And then
it was like, well, I produce shows so they could
perform in the show if they want. And then I

(13:01):
thought about just how oh, what's the word I'm looking for.
It's not gatekeeper, I mean it kind of is, but gatekeepy.
And then also just such a huge investment upfront, time, money,
everything to like do burlesque, and I really wanted to

(13:22):
make that like opportunity for someone to dip their toe
in and it be a low risk, like oh if
I hate it, and I realized this isn't for me,
then no harm, no foul. I just did one routine
that Lady Bird helped me completely do and then that's it,
and like it was fine, and that's not usually what happens.

(13:43):
But I'm like, gotcha, what of us?

Speaker 6 (13:55):
Yeah, exactly right.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
That's so true though, because I was part of their
Burless True before and we would like, you know, practice,
we would have tried to find trying to practice, we
would have come up with all these group routines and
everyone wants to see their group routines, but they just
take so much time.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
So the way that you're offering.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
It is like really like attainable for everyone, Like you
can live out your burless dreams and then all of
the theme. Can we talk about some of the amazing
themes that you've come up with, some that have destroyed
the studio? Just kidding.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
The cake?

Speaker 6 (14:37):
Is that why you? Yes, I am just a slut
for a theme.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Like I've always been this way that there's uh at
the like showcases in uh. In my whole life there
was always a theme. It was always really loose, but
I was like always like a die hard follower where
I was like, all right, if you got a theme,
I'm gonna fit the theme. And I would get so
like I would get secretly so pissed off when other

(15:08):
routines weren't in the theme, because it was like Lucidmfoors like, no,
you're fine, you can still perform, and I'm like, yeah,
you're not in the theme.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
A lot.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
But so Halloween was a first. Oh no, that's a lie.
Nerd Lesque came before Halloween. Love Me a good nerdy show.
And then I prefer nerdy routines that are actually personal
to the performer, So I always call out carbon Celeste,

(15:40):
who did a marching band act to hall a bat girl,
but she marched into her actual like university cadence, and
I was like, yep.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
Absolutely, you're booked, Like get out here right now.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
And then I do a bird courtship act for Nerdlesk,
where I morph into different bird species and try to
court my wife while taking my clothes off, although we
did country last year. And then what Manny was referring
to was a cake smash for my bird. They also birds,

(16:21):
but we did also smash them cakes with our butts.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Can we talk about this too, though, Like, because you
and your partner literally baked.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
You can't put me in there.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
It's all her, but there was a cake for each booty.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah, so you rolled up with like twelve cakes.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah, and it was memorable.

Speaker 6 (16:46):
Well, and people are like it.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Just I think what ended up happening with the workshops
was it was just like, these are things that I
want to do and I'm going to do anyways, and
that if the roles were reversed and I had this
opportunity to like do this thing that either I have
thought of but just like didn't feel attainable, or have

(17:10):
thought of and just haven't gone around to it, or
didn't have the resources or like or just didn't even think,
didn't even consider. I like to cite Google Eyes for
this one, where it is just like, so what if
we put Google eyes on every single part of our
body part we can think of?

Speaker 6 (17:30):
Yeah, yeah, like would you be that? I'll be into that.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
I don't think it's ever going to go away that
I like design a workshop and I put the workshop
on and I like freak out because I'm like, man,
I bet everyone's gonna think this is so stupid, Like, man,
I think this is the like I'm the only person
who thinks this is going to be something that's worth
their time.

Speaker 6 (17:48):
And then it's sold out in the day and I'm like.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Oh cool, okay, my people, they want to let their
freak flag flat with me.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Here we go. Hell yeah right. Like even the like
for just our regular classes to the Pillow Talk one,
like that was so cool. Everyone brought on their pillows.
You had like a fun theme.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
The Balloon Pop I know that was another burlesque one.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
And oh my gosh, I really fell for.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
You, like like thought about you all day for that one,
because I knew you were like blowing up millions of balloons.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Just to be popped.

Speaker 6 (18:31):
Had a machine, It's okay machine.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
I had multiple people sign up to that workshop that
were like scared of balloons and balloon popping and like
used it to like flood and train themselves to like
having more positive and I was like, this is crazy.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
I am so nervous right now.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
What are you doing, Like please be okay class, and
they did.

Speaker 6 (18:57):
They did great.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
I was like, cool, thanks for it was actually something
that I didn't hear until like towards the end of
the workshop or they were just like yeah, like I freaking.

Speaker 6 (19:05):
Hate balloons and I hate this. No, no, this has been
so I was like, ah, good, good, And then then
I did.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
I did do another one, and they were like, yeah,
I'm gonna sit this one out.

Speaker 6 (19:16):
And I was like, okay, thanks for making that decision.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
I was gonna say that. I was like, it was
they were cured, but they weren't cured.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
No kodles to them for trying though, and I love
I mean, it's just an example of how dance helps
those kind of just process things and different things like that.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Yeah, Like, I'm sure it's still very much felt like
an achievement and something to get through and then probably
just a like cool I did it. It's not necessarily
something I need to like long term overcome to have
balloons on my body. And it's a reasonable one time
deal for life.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Actually never thought what that would feel like, But now
that I'm thinking about it, I don't think I would
like that.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Yeah. Yeah, like it's not a good time the way
that I ended up working it out, because when I
did my first balloon pop routine for Valentine's Day, I
was just wearing like a bron underwear underneath, and I
think I have the video posted on Instagram on Ladybird somewhere,
but I'm like popping it with a cupid arrow and
it's like behind the scenes and it literally is just

(20:29):
me going like because the photographer had to like behind
the scenes video. And so what I did for the
workshops hat was had a corset that they were all
attached to, so you at least weren't dealing with like
right against the skin.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
But damn oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
I would just scream every single time. Yes, that's too funny.
Oh my gosh, it is.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
How have you been able to connect or combine your
bird lesk with Poe?

Speaker 6 (21:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
So I actually started teaching a pole lesque workshop and that.

Speaker 6 (21:18):
Came from.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
When did I first do that routine? I don't know,
but it was it was a group routine that I choreographed.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
A while back.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Okay, no, yeah, January of last year.

Speaker 6 (21:36):
Yeah, January last year.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
I taught it and loved it, Like I loved this
routine and I was like, this has to happen again,
and so it was one of the things that I
ended up. I also had a weird feeling about like
teaching things twice for a long time. I maybe it's
just because I'm just like a like squirrel, squirrel, I
need to move on to something different.

Speaker 6 (21:59):
But it took me a.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
While to realize that it's like okay to do that.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
And so this was one of the first things that
I've taught quite a few times, and then was is
also one of the first workshops that I've traveled with.
So I brought it to my old studio in Colorado
and then also taught it in Cape Cod and then

(22:28):
hopefully I'm gonna teach it at another studio later this year,
but we'll see. So that way, and that's yeah, that
that kind of birthed my guest instructor journey.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yes, I love that. Oh my goodness, workshops everywhere And
I was gonna say you had mentioned something, and of
course I lost it. How goes I? Goodness? I feel
like you should you start the poless competition? Least there's

(23:07):
not enough hours in the day.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Is that in your coming soon?

Speaker 6 (23:11):
Oh my god? Absolutely not.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
People Oh man, people will ask me like.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
The tweakle in your eye? Though my wife would kill me.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
I love it too, funny, that's exciting, like workshops are fun. Goodness.
I'm sorry, I have a question.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
What is your favorite style of poll?

Speaker 6 (23:40):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (23:42):
So I've always loved more like strength dynamic style. That's
what I was kind of like raised on because it
was like I said, that task oriented like strength but
bah bah, and then I also had a weird time
in which I was an exotic dancer but then also

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like wanted to keep my pull training separate from that,
which is a whole other can of worms, right, like
that was not nope, And I think it was just
at the time, like not needing, not wanting my parents
to know that that was happening, so wanting to be
as kind of strength oriented on.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
The full as possible. Uh, But I think that is
just also.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Going to be like a lie that I contradict in
my statement because my first routine that I ever did
was Fireball by Pitbull, and I shook my ass so
much like I did some strong moves, but then I
just like shook my ass a lot, like so I've
always been the more like performative, like let's dance around
and be fun.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
I think what I said in.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
The form that I didn't fill out so nevermind was
like silly and theatric like I love to come up
with the most ridiculous things or heavily commit to a theme,

(25:10):
such as at the March first pole in the wall
workshop or a pull in the Wall showcase. Uh, we're
about to do a craser performance. And the cruisers that
I made are pleasers with crocs on top, with croc jiblets.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Is that what they are?

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Jibs?

Speaker 2 (25:29):
What are they called?

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Well, the things and then it's and then it's the
pleaser with the little cutout in it and there's a
little crock in it.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
They came out to damn cute.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
It's just don't they They like they speak when you dance.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
If you don't attach them, yeah, sure, which I don't
recommend because I don't think that would be very safe.
But the tutory online hot glues them.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Okay, maybe the ones I saw weren't completely finished them, yes, yep, correct.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
I was gonna say, if they were talking, that is
not going to make bangs or clacks. Funa.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
How did you come up with this idea?

Speaker 4 (26:19):
Did you see it somewhere or was it like yeah
so there, Well it was like that. There's been a
popular TikTok floating around with these like lavender crausers, but
it's just the tutorial. I'm like, sort of how to
make them, and it's just like a sped up, like
forty five second long thing and I was just kind
of like, yeah, why not.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
Guess says it's that yeah, it like it really is,
like that is what I mean is that I'm like,
you know what, I want to make some cruisers.

Speaker 6 (26:46):
Maybe someone else wants to make a cruiser, make some cruisers.
I'll do a workshop. Maybe we can do a group
routine to it.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
It just like.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yeah, and like like a lot of the times it
falls together, which is somewhat problematic for my schedule, but
for that, but sometimes it doesn't happen right, Like there
are for every three complete ideas, there are twenty seven
tabs still open on my.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
All behind you.

Speaker 6 (27:20):
In the book situation, Oh my gosh, I love it.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
And it worked out like those fucking creasers came out
too cute well, and it.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
Was it was just like I knew I knew some
of the people that would come to it, and then
it was so exciting to have like a new student
that I hadn't ever interacted with before and just like
having it's just crazy when there's new people and I'm
I'm just selfish and love the immediate gratification of seeing.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
The impact it.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Has, right because imagine like like being a brand new person,
just being like, I'm going to sign up for this
weird workshop where I'm gonna like crocs and pleasers together,
and I don't know this teacher, and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Like one of us.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
Yeah exactly, It's like great, welcome, right to be.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Oh my, So you just asked what's your favorite style?
She likes to strength and do you have a favorite poetrick? I.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
It varies, but usually my go to when people ask
me this question is Cuban.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
That is a fun move.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
What that face, Mandy, I've never heard that one as
a go to.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
It's usually like cubid.

Speaker 6 (28:56):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
I don't know why, but we're friends and it's February.
It's Valentine's Day.

Speaker 6 (29:01):
It felt right.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
It is February, which kind of cup it because there's
so many original Cupid.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
Yeah, definitely, yes, soad the.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
One that no one else likes, the rich though.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Right moves are titled different things, depending on the one
that's up the pole or because I can do the floor.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
One is on the floor that I'm down with. That one.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Back in my stripping days, the Cupid was my shit
because we got to wear sneakers, so like I was
adhesive and I was able to talk my hips, but
nowadays like my feet are too damn clammy.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
I didn't even think about that because I did do
a Chinese pole series at Air Temple in New Haven,
and Yeah, Cupid was my jam and like Remy and
Yeah in Jeans though, because you're on the Chinese Paul
was crazy, I.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Would probably enjoy that because I would stick.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yes, I struggled with it a lot as a chrome polar,
trying it doesn't like it translates. It translates until it doesn't.
And so there was a lot of problematic times where
like rewiring was hard.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Like the time that you and I tried the flying pole,
speaking of didn't you just try something else?

Speaker 6 (30:36):
Yes, think about this.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
I know this is popping up a lot recently.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
I feel like more recently everyone's doing the what is
it actually called?

Speaker 2 (30:49):
The hair hanging?

Speaker 6 (30:50):
Is all I've had to come.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
I don't even know. I'm trying. I can't pick trip
you could? Is it like a trick or did you
say flying Paul hair hanging? Oh? Bullshit? We saw.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Molly and Lisa Bella went what studio did you go to?
Where they?

Speaker 6 (31:15):
So is Trellis Arts?

Speaker 4 (31:17):
It was it was facilitated at Trelli's Arts in Toronto, Canada,
and it was Nicole Malbeth and then two other additional coaches.
It was awesome. It was like a three day intensive
workshop and it was nerve wracking and terrifying because it's

(31:39):
definitely a yeah. Unfortunately, Mandy, you probably would not be
a good candidate.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (31:48):
But it was actually much more doable than I thought
it would be.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
I knew. I knew going into it that I like
have thick hair, and I have a lot of it.
I was I was actually worried about the length armpit
was required, and I do have a little bit more,
but then but I also have layers.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
But that ended up being okay.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
I didn't fully suspend by day three, but I'm obsessed
with the pully work where you are like slightly suspended
because you have some weight distribution on your side where
you're not fully suspending your entire body weight.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
I just have so many questions, like, first of all,
how like do you just move your body like your
head has to stay completely still.

Speaker 6 (32:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
So there's like a ton of conditioning and exercises devoted
to the muscles in your neck and your posture and
your core, and like I really appreciated the teaching style
because it was like, hey, this isn't like the safest
aerial art out there, and here are the ways that
you can make it as safe as possible.

Speaker 6 (33:02):
But like, you have a.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
High likelihood of injury if you're deciding to hang by,
especially if you don't do it slowly and work up
to it.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
It was definitely it felt like a very obvious like.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Yeah, if you are stupid about it, but just like
any other aerial situation, and we've seen plenty of injuries
that probably could could have been avoided if folks maybe
took a step back, which is hard because it's exciting
and so much fun.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Right, if you're interested in it, definitely go to a
T shirt facts well.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
And it's historically been something that's just like not accessible,
Like the not tie is something that's usually like coveted
and passed down to practitioners and different performers. And at
least what Nicole was saying was that she like sought
out her educational opportunities for it. She took Ingrid Espinoza's workshop.

(34:10):
I think Ingrid is a big name in hair hanging,
but yeah, like it's not. I think again, high risk
profile person where I have feelings about home poll in general.
But it's not like pole and you should not just
try to pick it up at home, like it's not
you need to be taught.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Right because once again it looks so easy and beautiful
and graceful.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
You think it looks well, No, it's just because you're
you're like floating.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
You know, but I know that there's so much inner
turmoil going on, just to like sure that you don't
die facts.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Do not be the one at the news because you tried.
Oh see, okay, Wow, I don't think my hair could
ever get that thick anymore. Maybe when I was a teenager,
I wonder if no, I probably wouldn't work if I
added like a weave or side right, Like.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
No, no, no natural hair.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
Treated hair is even problematic.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Wow, even treated all.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Of these days of me just like not brushing my hair,
showering maybe twice a week.

Speaker 6 (35:25):
I've just paid off, rolled up and I was like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Dirty hippie is going to excel because I don't do
anything awesome.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Too party. I just damaged my hair too much in
my twenties. You know, the gay boy thing you dye
every color of the rainbow make a state.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Did you find any parallels between hair hanging and pole
dancing at all or.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
When I was doing there was one day where we
were doing one of our sessions and like exploration and
with the pulley, my mind kept on going to like
walking around the pole like it was a rope. But
then I was like walking around it and I was like, no,
that's this isn't it wasn't translating.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
So I tried my body and mind tried.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
You have control over your own pulley.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
Yes, yeah, so you you are lifting yourself because it's
you deciding no, and that's good. That like, that's the
performances you see in search as ole and elsewhere. It's
someone else lifting and lowering you, which is in my opinion,
one of the most terrifying parts and most dangerous parts,

(36:48):
because it's not like other aerials that get lifted, because
it's really important for there to be communication and for
there to not be any jerky movements like you're dealing
with someone's neck that you're lifting, and so yes, like
and so that's that's the style that I actually plan
on continuing to pursue. Is the Polly, and I've seen

(37:10):
it like Nicole did a it looked kind of like
a live art installation. I don't want to miss quote
what it was, but like you can use a weight
on the other side too, to make it a little
bit easier on the upper body as well. And again
going back to my style, like it immediately goes into

(37:33):
like theatrical perform I'm like already, like, all right, when
am I going to do my Mary Poppins hair hanging
act where the weight is like her bag and then
I have an umbrella.

Speaker 6 (37:42):
And it's a whole thing, and it's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
You know, Like that's kind of like it's like the
first thing in my mind goes to and I'm like, okay, cool.
And then the suspension the polly is a way to
work up to full suspension if that's still something of interest.
But yeah, that.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Was going to be fun to see your journey. I
hope you share it.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Yeah, oh my gosh. Yes. Let's let's talk a little
bit about the classes you teach and which ones are
online for everyone to take.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
So I teach at Pole in the Wall on Mondays
Intro one online.

Speaker 6 (38:26):
This is I took. See I didn't teach last week.
This is not good.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Six fifteen, but we'll be changing.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
To six soon.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
Nailed it, and then.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
I teach a hot heels class on Monday nights. It's
currently at seven thirty, soon to be seven fifteen. That
you need to book three weeks out right.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
I was going to say in studio book a sip.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
And that link so you can book is going to
be in the comments in the section in the notes below,
So check out that link.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Do you have any other workshops or classes or anything
upcoming in the world?

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Yeah, so, yeah, So semi regularly offer workshops a Pole
on the Wall for sure, and then I occasionally do
workshops at the Movement Collective in Meriden, Connecticut as well,
and then kind of randomly all over as well. But
I'm doing the Google Eye workshop again at Movement on

(39:32):
March twenty second, and it will be more of a
routine choreo that we're learning because there will be a
group performance opportunity on April fifth in Woodbridge, Connecticut. I'm
producing a show called Pines and Pasties Foolish Volleys a

(39:52):
Burlet's Buffoonery, and it's for April Fols.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah, that sends all the calendaris in the backyard.

Speaker 6 (40:03):
Yes, is this.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
One too funny? I don't think we asked about your
pole nemesis.

Speaker 6 (40:14):
Oh that's fine.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
We don't need to talk about Teddy.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
I'm not Teddy now.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Teddy sometimes, but I like, I really think it's like
three percent of the time for whatever reason, it's just never.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
I feel like Teddy is one of those ones that
it's not the same for everyone, Like everybody's bodies are
different and it will not never look the same or
be the same. Way to get into it?

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Right, You're right, it's it's about the hips too, I think.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yeah, I mean I try to grab that hip and
open those legs. Why I try to squeeze type.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
But you know I still slabbed, right, There's something about
the armpit ratio to leg.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, there's a lot, but I love it. That's all right.
You can keep your Cupid exactly.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
I'm like, you have Tenny Cupid's mind. It's fine. Yeah,
looks like everybody's different or something.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Why going from a Cupid?

Speaker 2 (41:28):
What that would be like a cute Valentine's combo?

Speaker 5 (41:32):
Though?

Speaker 4 (41:33):
That's would I went to class like that that was
themed for Valentine.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
I haven't a class like that.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Actually, I have a off topic question because we're doing
our teacher training program at Pole in the Wall and Molly,
you're gonna be teaching our teacher trainees upcoming this Sunday.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Do you have any tips for prospective teachers? For any
Pole students who want to be teachers.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
My advice is to just give yourself grace because I
think one of the mistakes that I really made when
I was a new instructor was I was.

Speaker 6 (42:19):
I was really taken it back and shocked.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
As to the skill requirement difference of doing a move
versus teaching it, and it is just mind blowing how
they are not the same at all, and so just
being willing to go into it knowing that it is

(42:43):
good that you know how to do the things absolutely,
but that's not necessarily going to be a helpful basis
for all of the teaching requirements of it all.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Love it agreed, There's only so much you can learn,
and I feel like you learn more with that experience
because they teach you, Oh, teach this trick this certain way,
But little do they not say that everybody's going to
be a different size, everybody's going to be a different
level and that way that they want you to teach

(43:17):
might not work for them, right. I love that.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I'll never forget.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Like the first time I taught a figurehead, I couldn't
even talk.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
When I was in it. I was like, but now
I can.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
Because you practice, but.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
It is too well.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Thank you for sharing them. Also, thank you for sharing
your wealth of knowledge with to our students. Actually both
of you, because both of you are teaching, are wonderful.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Students at pull in the Wall to be teachers.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
So thank you doing the most stuff.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Well yours tom soon. Well, I do you have any
hand and body grip that you use for pole?

Speaker 6 (44:16):
I am a dry hands horb and that's it.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
I've like tried due point and other non dry grip
aids because at least when I was in Colorado, I
would use dry hands even if I was like having
dry grip issues and that shocker didn't work out well.

Speaker 6 (44:37):
But I don't.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
Use grip right now because I don't really do a
lot of intermediate advanced stuff in this moment. My favorite
grip story to tell, though, is that for a minute
there was a craze with the like target brand yes
to whatever it's like tomato and cucumber and whatever. And
there's this spray moisturizer with like two point two stars

(45:04):
because all the comments are like this shit is so
sticky and it's so bad. And then there's all these
random five star reviews that are like my pole dancer
and this is so great. So I have this bottle
of like spray cucumber moisturizer that is like a back
of knees, like hail Mary, and it's probably like five

(45:26):
years expired, but I refuse to get rid of it,
and I'll like only use it like dire circumstances.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Oh, I love that. I wonder if they still make it.

Speaker 6 (45:36):
They don't why I still have mine?

Speaker 4 (45:43):
They obviously don't because it's not a good product apparently
for mainstream purposes.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
That's so hilarious.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
But like, if you have the product, perhaps we can
reverse engineer. Yes, not making it anymore, And they didn't
understand that it was for pole answers and not for
what they made it for.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
They really lost an opportunity to get into a different market.

Speaker 6 (46:09):
But it's okay.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Any kinds out there who are into reverse engineering products
that we need as polled answers, contact Molly because she's
got the last one.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
The ingredient list is on there too, will be a
huge mystery.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
It's not like you.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Cover Yeah. Yeah, it's funny too, yeah, does most of them.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Stink too funny. I can't wait for you to get
more into intermedia and advanced stuff because I remember your
fireball video that you submitted to our Pulling the Cross showcase,
and you was killing it with holly drops and shit.
So I do hope you get to explore more of that.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
My plan is to redo that routine for the showcased
on March first, because it's officially it's been ten years
this year routine.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
I was gonna say, I feel like I've seen it
on the upcoming things.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
I'm so excited en course ten years ago that you
did that.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Yeah, I was all changed for you in the ten years.

Speaker 6 (47:27):
Ah, I kind of weirdly don't think it has.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
I think ultimately, I think well, and I think the
first thing that always comes to my mind is those
silly memes that are like, oh, you've been aerial training
for five years, you must be so good.

Speaker 6 (47:46):
And then it's I'm like profeusely.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
And I'm like hmmm.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Hmm.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
And but it's still areas are always so interesting because
to the average person, they're still like, wow, you're so amazing,
and I'm like, no, I suck. But it like it
almos Like I almost want to say it's just like stable,
because it's always like and it's it.

Speaker 6 (48:14):
I think it just fluctuates. As far as how much
of my life it's been. There's been.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
Like I remember when my wife and I were not
married yet but still what we're living together in Fort Collins,
and like one of our first big fights was that
like I was gone too many nights a week and
so we needed to like and it was so sweet
and I was like, I'm just a poll lass, what's
your problem?

Speaker 6 (48:45):
And it was reasonable.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
It was it was a solid amount of my life,
that is when I was doing teaching and taking and
so I was just like it was genuinely like four
to six nights a week, I was going to pole
class like it was. I was like, fine, I'll be
a girlfriend too. But I feel like, at least in
the past couple of years, it's felt a lot more

(49:08):
like really awesome that I get to keep it even
if it is less and so always.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
There and I love it and I appreciate it because
I had You're always so creative with all the classes
and always so you always remember to have fun. And
I think I wrote this in the teacher message. It
was really refreshing when we had that quick conversation because
sometimes we forget that, especially when we try to do

(49:40):
it full time. So thank you for that. You always
keep it fun. Yeah, that's bird, You're too fucking fun.
I do hope you can be a student again.

Speaker 6 (50:01):
Well, I think hair hanging is really going to put
a cramp in.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
That here we are, I find I think the core
strength that you're gonna have to work on for the
hair thing will eventually parallel to pull because you need
that core strength.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Oh my god, I didn't even think about that because
here we are, we we have like armpit, so we
have at least there.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
But like how.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
It's like it's like a pencil spin that never ends
in your hanging by your hair. You have to have
everything tight and a gage.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Right, but just something else for you to integrate into
your life and come one.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Fine, I'm not gonna lie. I would be heartbroken if
I was were excited to try. Then they said, your
hair is not the connection too.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
We did have to, like we filled out a questionnaire
online before and like sent photos in. So luckily that's
not a thing where you like drive to Canada and
then get told you can't do it.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
I wonder if that's why they kind of, like you
mentioned earlier, kind of kept it as a pass down
to pass down thing rather than opened it up to
the general public.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
It is just so individual like even a lot of
times in lecture it was a lot of like this
or this or this or this, like depending on the person. Like,
so it it makes sense just based off of how
it seems like it's challenging to kind of blanket statement
a lot of it, which one you shouldn't because that's

(51:49):
not safe, right, And so they were again the instructor
is successfully doing that, But then that does make for
a challenging classroom management from a perspective of teaching multiple
people at a time.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Three days, eight hours.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Wow, Like that's like a whole certification, but that was
just intro.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Do you have any like I know you said that
you purchase some of the stuff to practice at home.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Do you have any.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Plans for the future for anything other than those burlesque
fusions that you were saying, You're.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
Gonna say, yeah, it's really probably just gonna be routine based,
like I'll probably do just try to keep up with
conditioning because I feel like it is a scalp situation
that you need to maintain. But right now I have
it on my radar that I hope to be able
to perform a Halloween routine. I want to give myself
plenty of time to potentially build up to something. But

(52:59):
again that's with the pole you not full suspension.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yes, do my Poll of Horrors competition. I want to
see blood, gore and horror at.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
That has a good ring to it.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
I mean, I think sexy and awesome just to see,
like you know, fake blood spewing from a spinning pole
or something.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
The heck, yeah, that.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Is it the same sort of like rigging for for
aerials or is there any other special considerations? Wow, that
would be amazing, Like there's nothing like that around here.
I've never seen it in person.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
And there are yeah, there there are at least two
or three people I know, I can't remember Connecticut or
Massachusetts that do it in area blanking on the studio,
but they're here.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Well, it's definitely not something I don't think I would try,
but it is really beautiful.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Yeah, where do you hope to see yourself in two
or five years with pole dance and burlesque?

Speaker 6 (54:23):
My god, I don't know. Actually that's a lie.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
I want to continue to.

Speaker 6 (54:36):
Try to not.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
Do a million things at once while knowing that there
is this lovely community of very hungry burlesque dancers that
want to keep doing shows. And so I think something
that I've slowly started to shift towards is empowering others
to put shows on so that they can have shows

(55:00):
to be in, because that's where I started, that's the
reason I did it.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
And so.

Speaker 6 (55:05):
There's this really interesting.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
Concept where it can get territorial and dramatic and weird,
and I've experienced both sides of that, but for the
most part, I.

Speaker 6 (55:22):
Have experienced nothing but.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
Immense like support and respect from at least the main
producer that I know of Connecticut, which is Professor m
who does Scandalo Saturdays at Trevi Lounge. He's been amazing
and nothing but like an amazing colleague and friend.

Speaker 6 (55:47):
He has an abundance.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
Mindset, which is what he always says, and so was
just welcoming with open arms when I got here, and
never at any point was like, who the fuck is
this new chick trying to put some shows.

Speaker 6 (56:03):
On and steal my stuff?

Speaker 4 (56:06):
Because I wasn't stealing his stuff. So it's exciting to
finally have that interaction, and so I want to continue
to pass that on of Like I can't book you
for every single one of my shows. It's unfortunately not
how it works as much as I wanted to. But

(56:26):
people don't want nine hour recitals on Saturdays, so we
gotta spread it out. And so if you want to
perform more, I love that for you, and I will
help in any way I can to facilitate those opportunities
if you like, if you even want to, Like I've
told a couple of my dancers recently, like, if you
want to do an ann Pasty show and try to

(56:48):
co produce, let me know because I am here for it.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Oh a franchise.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
I love that. It's interesting because you have inspired me.
And I've always wanted to get more into or less
because I love it. I've dabbled only a few times,
and I've always thought maybe five ten years of boy
less score, gay less score, something like that. Yeah, so

(57:15):
thank you for sharing that. It is very inspiring. What's
your least favorite post song A song or I guess
since you're in burless too, what's your least favorite song?
And you're that you're tired of it, that you're tired
of hearing.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Oh my god, like that's overplayed.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
Yeah, I mean I always go to Feeling Good and
it's and it's more so like a I don't actually
have a problem with it, but it's something that I
would never perform to because I know what people would say,

(57:57):
and I'm like, cool, Okay, we just won't do that.
And then anything from the Christina Aguilera burlesque movie, Nope,
good songs.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
I think I love how like we ask people like
what their overplayed songs are and but like everyone, I'm.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Like, I love that song. I love that song.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
See that's not a good Yeah, this is not a
good question for me because I just did a whole
workshop to candy shop.

Speaker 6 (58:30):
I think fifty cents, So I'm not the right.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Person, right, I think every time I hear that song now,
I'll think of the studio dedicated with the candy Jeanes.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
I wanted to ask you too, like how did you
do that? Like, did you climb to the top of the.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Pole with the ribbon and then.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
Spin It's it's actually bondage tape, and so it's like,
uh nons it doesn't it only adheres to itself, and
so it like it was almost like cling wrap, I guess,
and so it like clings to the pole.

Speaker 6 (59:14):
I looked it up.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
I looked up how you could do a thing, and
then also ask Lisabella to confirm, because she did the
candy cane pole with her stage pole at home at
least a couple of years back and has done it
every year since.

Speaker 6 (59:27):
And so it was the like temporary aesthetic situation.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
You can tell in the video that that eventually in
it like rips because people were using it so hard.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
And I was like, yeah, that's did you climb every
up every single pole?

Speaker 4 (59:42):
And like.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
She loves that conditioning.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
And I also climb up to the top of the
pool to take all those silly photos from Develo.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
You know, I was like, is she on the top
of the staircase, Like what's going on? But now you
climb the pole? Got it?

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
And then the phone mount technically will magnet to the.

Speaker 6 (01:00:13):
Bluepit structure.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
That's good, but it just sus because your phone is
just like clinging into it, so I don't necessarily recommend it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Right, and it's like twelve feet up.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Oh my god. Well that's a lot of work. You
put in a lot of heart and soul into everything.
I definitely appreciate it. Like I said, I'll always remember
the way that studio looked. It looked really beautiful, like
a magical handy Caneland winter Wenday night.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Yeah, do you sleep? You know?

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
Like walk? I actually have idiopathic hypersomia, So I'm two
minutes from ram at any point in my life.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Fascinating. Thank you for sharing that. That's fascinating to know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
I'm medicated though, so I'm on stimulated.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
I was gonna say you with the whole interview without
like passing out on us.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Oh my gosh. Oh I learned so much about Mali.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
Yeah, a wealth of interesting things. I actually had a
relationship end because I was struggling with my idiopathic hypersomnia
and not treating it very well. And it was like
before bed, and you know when people like to start
really important conversations right before ben and it's super helpful

(01:01:44):
in relationships and they last when that happens.

Speaker 6 (01:01:47):
Yeah. My partner at the time was just like, yeah,
I just like, I think you think I'm really boring
and I fell asleep.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
They just set themselves up a failure with that one.
Don't start those conversations while we're laying back, What the
hell's wrong with you? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
But my Jordan and so men's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Oh that is too funny. I can't. Oh, I'm gee,
I'm trying to think that we cover everything and then
have that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
You you haven't asked me what things are coming up?

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Oh? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
And on March eighth, there's the Pines and Pasties Feminenomenon
burlesque show.

Speaker 6 (01:02:42):
I'm so, so so excited for this event.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
So this is the thing I'm gonna plug the most
for this podcast because I have turned it into a
benefit show for the children of Marsha P. Johnson, which
is a grass sreets collective in New Haven that is
dedicated to advocating and preventing resources specifically for POC trans women.

Speaker 6 (01:03:04):
And it's turning into.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
Quite the statement of a show, and I'm pretty excited
because it's really my hope is that it gives the
performers and the performers mainly, but also the audience kind
of a cathartic way of expressing how they're feeling right

(01:03:27):
now as women and how.

Speaker 6 (01:03:32):
We're doing because we're not doing great.

Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
But I just shared something on my Instagram actually from
Patagonia and her Ted Talk where it was.

Speaker 6 (01:03:44):
That like it's okay to be.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Like doing the hard work and being serious while also
being joyful. And so I really like the idea of like, yes,
we're having a se conversation right now in this show,
but we're also going to have fun, Like we're also
going to be together in the space and have a
nice time. And so I think it's going to be

(01:04:09):
a really powerful experience.

Speaker 6 (01:04:13):
And I'm pretty stoked.

Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
We I've got vendors, I've got raffle prizes, I've got
a stacked cast, Like it's going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
That is exciting. Congrats on that. Good for you. That
is beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
Especially New England Cider Company in Wallingford, Connecticut March March.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Eighth, And the tickets are still on sale for that.

Speaker 6 (01:04:36):
They're still in sale.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
Yeah, in the ladybor Vixen's Link Tree or the Ann
Pasties Bio which.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Will comments and notes below y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
And this episode will be out after this event, but
the clips from this and posting it so that you
can have proper advertisement for this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Thank you for putting this show on, especially in a
time I'm where we probably need it the most.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
And then after that there's Foolish Follies on four or five,
if you want to see the most absurd burlesque routines
to ever exist.

Speaker 6 (01:05:13):
And then my Birthday on May.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
Seventeenth, if you ever thought, man, I wish there was
an entire variety burless show devoted to act related to birds.

Speaker 6 (01:05:22):
I got you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Do you want to tell us a bit about why
you love birds so much?

Speaker 6 (01:05:31):
That is a great question.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
I will, I will, oh, I will two birds, one
stone it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:40):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
And the other question I have in front of me
is my muggle job, and I work in wildlife research.
I specifically focus on invasive species in the US. Right now,
that's what I do.

Speaker 6 (01:05:54):
But I have always known I wanted to work with animals.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
I got a wildlife biology degree in I was pet
sitting since second grade. I was volunteering on a farm,
like we were doing all the things I always wanted
to be around animals. We always had weird pets because
my parents were great. We had parakeets and geckos and hamsters,
and I had a toad that we flew back from

(01:06:18):
Virginia before TSA really went on lockdown, like.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Time.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
But I don't really know when it started. Like it
was a combination of working at a rehabilitation center in
Colorado where I was running the bird nursery and so
I was just feeding baby birds for every four hours,
and like running the interns of volunteers making sure all

(01:06:50):
of these like orphaned baby birds stayed alive and got fed,
and then at the same time taking an ornithology class
at CSU, and so just like learning identification by sight
and sound, and so I just ended up accidentally getting.

Speaker 6 (01:07:05):
Like bombarded with birds, and I just like wasn't mad
about it, just kept liking birds.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
Oh jus big as bird posts around my wall of
all the birds in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
That's in I love it. So you're helping people with
dance and then helping animals with your muggle job. What
is it fun to help yourself? Any self care at all?

(01:07:52):
Any tips for self care, especially when living such a
beautifully busy life.

Speaker 6 (01:08:00):
Have a wife that knows how to cook.

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
To slow down, Jesus, usually my first gauge on a hey,
what if we didn't have any plans this weekend?

Speaker 6 (01:08:18):
And I'm like, fine, but.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
Yeah, But for me, it is like the self care
is like self care, community care, it like it is
burlesque that it is pole. Those things actually do fill
my cup, and so it is not to say that
they don't empty it sometimes too, because they do.

Speaker 6 (01:08:37):
And we all go through.

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
Our ebbs and flows of how that works and how
that's sustainable. But I absolutely am guilty of trying to
be better about my nothing days and like not feeling
guilty for having nothing days. And then I usually tend
to like call a close friend if I need any

(01:09:00):
urgent support, and usually catching up with someone I haven't
talked to in a while makes me feel really good.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
I love that. I think that's the first time we've
heard that catching up with someone we haven't talked to
in a while, Right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
It made me just think about how I've been not
doing that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:22):
So I went through a phase where I was like
really hard on myself for not doing that, and I
like made it feel like an obligation. And I'm very
very grateful to have friends who I can just like
not talk to for months and it's nothing happens and
then we pick it up like it was yesterday. And

(01:09:44):
so having that reframe of like, oh, I have to
call so and so to see how they're doing, and
instead of having it be like a, oh, like I'm
feeling a little off, so I think I'm gonna call
so and so and talk to them and then also
get to hear how they're doing, and then that's gonna
make me feel good.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
I love that. Thank you for sharing that, because it
is a constant reminder I find as I get older,
it's so harder to do that. I even forget to
call my mom, and that is awful.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
I am supposed to call my parents every Sunday, and
I don't remember seventy percent of the time.

Speaker 6 (01:10:23):
And my sweet sweet mother refuses to call me same
like'll text.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
She'll text and say, is now okay time to call
just call me? Mom to call She's gotten better because
I've like aggressively honed it in where I'm just like,
you also can call me any day if there's like
another thing you want to talk about. Not a Sunday
you're allowed to call me because they're just so sweet
about it. They're like, you're just so busy, we don't
want to bother you. And I'm like, if I'm busy,

(01:10:52):
I won't answer and you can just leave a message
and then I'll call you back. It's almost like that's
how phones were invented.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Purpose. I think most of us don't know why, invented.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
To make us lazier and dumber and joke.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
It's out there the beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
We use them for communication, yes, and then we use
it to replace everything, Like you don't even looking in
encyclopedia anymore, you just google it, right.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
But I like that too, because I have questions all day.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
I want to know. I want to know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
It's funny. Is there anything else you would like to
share with us, anything coming in the future, any tidbits,
any anything at all.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Philosophies.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
Yeah, I think that's it, but we didn't answer. We
didn't ask the philosophy question. I'm a checklist kind of gal.
So here I am with my checklist and absolutely end
on my pole philosophy, which is that anybody is the
pole body, and that vertical fusion and pull on the

(01:12:19):
wall really did both teach me how diverse the pole
community can and should be. It's for everyone, Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
Thank you for sharing that. I love that. Yes, and
I love how you said your checklist. Girl, you like
kept us on point. You're like, we did not answer this.
We did answer.

Speaker 6 (01:12:48):
I prepared to answer for this question.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Hold, that's accountable.

Speaker 6 (01:12:53):
Sometimes color coded calendar in the background.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Oh no, not at all. Hold is accountable. Sometimes we
go on to tangents that we just completely.

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
Because I do think maybe the world would end if
we didn't cover all of the questions.

Speaker 6 (01:13:09):
Yeah like that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Yeah, I mean you have a nice following. Maybe one
of your one of the people following you want to know, well,
I want to know her.

Speaker 6 (01:13:24):
Love this podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:13:25):
Have to stop following because you didn't find out what
Molly's least favorite pole move was?

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
So too funny.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
You don't have to do a follow up just for that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
Well, thank you so much Molly for taking the time
to share everything, and also for again for inspiring everyone
so much and for being wonderful and for moving closer
to the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Facts. Yeah she's putting Yes, thank you for being here
with us and for everything you do for the students
and for always inspiring me. We don't get to interact
a lot, but I am I do follow with what
you're doing and hear a lot from the students, And
thank you. I can't wait what's next for you, and

(01:14:16):
I hope you're able to be this, be a student
and try some of that intermedia advanced stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Right and look forward to seeing Molly doing hair hanging
at a venue near you. And thank you so much
everyone for listening to or watching this episode of Pull
on the Call podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
My name is Mandy Mack.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
I am Chris knee high socks with my.

Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
Riches here with Ladybird, Vixen, Mollie or Letty Bird.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Yeah yeah, take out a hot glue gun. You have
a whole outfit.

Speaker 6 (01:15:10):
It's just the story of my life.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
That would be beautiful with the hair hanging.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
Oh I didn't, Mandy, I didn't even think about.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Like a fang

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
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