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October 24, 2025 16 mins
In today’s episode of Global Pulse Politics, we break down a major development shaking North American trade relations.
President Donald Trump has announced an immediate end to all trade talks with Canada, citing an Ontario government advert that criticized his tariffs using a quote from former U.S. President Ronald Reagan.

The ad, part of a $75 million Canadian campaign, accused tariffs of “hurting every American,” and featured Reagan’s 1987 remarks about trade wars.
Trump fired back on social media, calling the advert “FAKE” and “egregious,” saying the U.S. negotiations were “HEREBY TERMINATED.”

Stay tuned till the end for expert commentary on what this means for American industries, Canadian exporters, and global markets.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the debate. Today, we are diving into what
became a really contentious moment in recent US Canada trade history.
It was quite a severe diplomatic breakdown, and it was
triggered by something maybe unexpected political rhetoric. Specifically the moment
President Trump abruptly terminated high stakes trade negotiations citing specific

(00:25):
outrage over an advert, an advert sponsored by the Ontario government.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Right, And this wasn't happening in a vacuum. The US
administration had already put in place some significant, really crippling
levies you mentioned them, thirty five percent on certain imports,
a huge fifty percent on medals, twenty five percent on automobiles.
These policies were severely impacting Ontario, which is, you know,
Canada's industrial and economic powerhouse. The economic pain was immediate and.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Very real, exactly, and that painful context brings us to
the disagreement for today. It's not just about trade policy itself,
but it digs into the ethics the impact of political communication.
So the question we're asking is this, did the Ontario
government's use of Ronald Reagan's anti tariff quotes? Did that

(01:17):
constitute a legitimate evidence based appeal to core American conservative
principles during these incredibly high stakes trade negotiations. Or was
it actually a politically manipulative misrepresentation designed deliberately to disrupt
current US policy and maybe even influence the US Supreme Court. Now,

(01:38):
I'll be arguing that Premier doug Ford and the Ontario
government were entirely justified in their approach. I see this
not just as valid critique, but as a necessary economic intervention.
They used historically sound language conveying Reagan's frankly undisputed, long
run belief that tariff's ultimately hurt every American.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
And I'll be taking a different view. I maintained that
the advert was fundamentally a distortion, a deliberate one. It
stripped Reagan's speech of its absolutely crucial context, specifically to
undermine sensitive federal negotiations and perhaps more critically, to target
a major upcoming legal decision in the US regarding the
scope of presidential tariff authority.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Okay, let's lay out the positions more fully from my perspective.
Let's start with why this advert was not only legitimate,
but you could argue strategically brilliant the core claims made
by Reagan in that nineteen eighty seven national radio address
will their undeniable facts within the conservative intellectual tradition. The
advert explicitly quoted Reagan's stating over the long run, such

(02:44):
trade barriers hurt every American worker and consumer. He also
warned that high tariff's trigger and I quote fierce trade wars.
Premier Ford's team they understood they needed a powerful American
voice to counteract an American policy that was quite literal
destroying Ontario jobs. So leveraging Bragan, an absolute icon of

(03:05):
US conservatism, was arguably the most forceful and legitimate effort
possible to make the case against American tariffs on Canada. Now, yes,
the ever did restructure the comments for maximum impact, I'll
grant that, but the material confirms the words themselves were
not altered. It simply isolated Reagan's consistent philosophical position favoring

(03:27):
free trade and his own stated reluctance that he was
loath to take such steps to impose trade barriers. This
very effectively showcased how far the current administration had drifted
from established conservative trade doctrine, and it directly contradicted Trump's
rather bold counterclaim that Reagan somehow loved tariffs.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
See I'm sorry, but I just can't agree that the
let's say, literal truth of the individual quoted sentences excuses
what I see as a fundamental act of deception here.
This goes well beyond strategic editing, the intentional reordering, and
importantly the selection of audio. Well, that constituted a massive misrepresentation.

(04:08):
And that's precisely why the Reagan Foundation itself publicly criticized
the campaign, noting it used selective audio and video without authorization.
The crucial omission, the absolute key here is the context
that gives the original speech its actual meaning. That original
five minute addressed to the nation on free and fair trade.

(04:30):
It wasn't some blanket condemnation of all tariffs. Ever. It
was specifically delivered to explain and indeed, to justify why
Reagan felt compelled in what he called a special case
to impose tariffs on Japanese goods at that specific moment
to address a specific trade imbalance. So by stripping the

(04:51):
quotes of that specific conditional context, Reagan defending a tariff
action while lamenting its necessity, the what was it seventy
five million dollar CAD campaign actively misled the American public
about the very circumstances under which Reagan himself viewed tariffs
as necessary or perhaps unavoidable. This, for me, transforms the

(05:12):
advert from a critique, however sharp, into an egregious act
of political manipulation. And furthermore, the timing, well, the timing
wasn't accidental, was it. It coincided almost perfectly with the
run up to a major US Supreme Court decision in November,
a decision that represented the biggest test of presidential authority
on tariffs since I believe the nineteen seventies. This timing

(05:35):
makes the advert look less like simple advocacy and much
more like an attempt to directly, quote unquote interfere with
a critical legal and political process, just as the US
administration claimed.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Okay, let's dig into that this question of rhetorical legitimacy
versus historical context. You argue, the philosophical message, the core
idea remains intact. But how can we just ignore the
act that the Reagan Foundation, the very custodians of his legacy,
publicly stated the use was unauthorized and crucially misrepresented the

(06:09):
address because it eliminated that necessary historical nuance is the
immediate rhetorical impact maybe achieved through let's call it political
maneuvering with an icon's enage and voice to attack a
successor's policy. Is that really more important than fidelity to
the source document's overall argument, an argument which, as you
pointed out, was fundamentally justifying conditional tariffs in that instance.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I absolutely see why you frame it that way, and
the importance of historical fidelity is well, it's undeniable. But
let me offer a different perspective, one rooted in the
immediate economic reality facing Ontario at that moment. While yes,
the original speech did justify a conditional tariff, the overwhelming

(06:54):
philosophical thrust of that address, and frankly, Reagan's legacy overall,
is profoundly anti pertenectionist. He stressed throughout that speech, even
while imposing the tariff, that he wanted to lift them
as soon as possible to promote the prosperity that, in
his words, only free trade can bring. Now, the Ontario
government was facing these crushing fifty percent tariffs on medals,

(07:16):
twenty five percent on autos. This wasn't theoretical, it meant
real job losses. They were using a credible, powerful American
voice to argue against a massive current US policy that
was crippling their economy and creating the exact kind of
trade war Reagan himself had warned against. They were essentially
leveraging a domestic conservative critique from within the US system

(07:38):
to address an international economic injury being inflicted upon them.
I'd argue the economic urgency of stopping the bleeding in
Ontario outweighs the let's say, technical omission of the conditional
clause from a speech made decades earlier. If the core
argument presented that high tariffs hurt US consumers and workers
is fundamentally true to Reagan's broader philosophy, than the advocacy

(08:00):
itself is legitimate.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Okay, let's pivot then to the issue of timing and
this charge of intent to interfere, because that really is
the gravest charge against the advert, isn't it. The Ontario
government's primary duty surely is clear protect its industries, protect
its jobs, especially when, as Premier Ford put it quite vividly,

(08:22):
Washington's policies felt like they had pulled a knife and
yanked it into us. Running the advert on mainstream US television, well,
that seems like a legitimate attempt to influence US lawmakers
and public opinion, using the American democratic process itself to
push back. I'm just not convinced that a yes, expensive,
seventy five million dollar ad campaign, however aggressive, truly has

(08:45):
the power to interfere with the internal deliberations of the
US Supreme Court. I mean, isn't that institution designed to
be insulated from exactly this kind of public pressure.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
That's an interesting point about the Court's insulation, though I
might frame the stakes and the potential for influence differently.
You perhaps minimize the potential for interference by focusing on
the Court's theoretical isolation. But we have to consider why
the timing was so critical That case before the Supreme
Court in November. It was poised to challenge the administration's
variability to unilaterally impose tariffs under these broad national security exceptions.

(09:21):
A ruling against the President could have forced the US
government to refund potentially billions collected in tariffs. That would
have been a devastating financial and political blow. So the
timing suggests pretty strongly I think, a clear strategic aim
that went far beyond just general public relations or trying
to persuade a few lawmakers. The intent, it appears, was

(09:42):
to target the legal vulnerability of the administration's signature policy,
to inject this iconic Republican voice, Reagan's voice, into the
public narrative, just as the judiciary was weighing the fate
of that policy. Now, when you combine this strategic timing,
the use of substantial foreign governmental funds, and the distortion

(10:03):
of a highly symbolic figure to sway US policy, well,
that is precisely the kind of action that President Trump
labeled egregious, and it provided the justification, at least in
their view, to issue that very blunt, hereby terminated declaration
on the trade negotiations. For them, it crossed a fundamental line,
moving from spirited critique, even harsh critique, and to what

(10:26):
they saw as active policy sabotage aimed at the domestic
governing structure of another nation.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Okay, let's broaden this out slightly to the complication this
apparently caused internally for Canada. We've sort of established that
while Trump's claim that Reagan loved tariffs is well an
obvious overstatement, the original address does show Reagan did use
them conditionally as a special case a nuance. The advert

(10:52):
completely removes. But this was also happening while Canada's federal government,
specifically Prime Minister Carney at the time, was trying to
strike a very delicate federal deal, trying to ease tariffs
resolve the conflict diplomatically. Premier Ford's actions running this highly
confrontational advert, and remember those previous threats about potentially cutting

(11:12):
off power supply to the US, surely added significant complication,
even antagonism, to those federal negotiating efforts. Doesn't this clear
disruption of the Canadian federal effort perhaps demonstrate a lack
of coordination, maybe even a manipulative, possibly provincially focused political
intent that prioritized a public fight over potentially successful national negotiations.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
While I'm not entirely convinced by that line of reasoning,
mainly because the internal political disagreement let's say, between Ottawa
under Carney and Ontario under Ford, doesn't somehow excuse the
destructive US tariff policy itself. Ford's primary accountability arguably is
to Ontario's industries, and those industries were suffering immediate, profound

(12:03):
injury from these tariffs. The advert's purpose, as I see it,
was to demonstrate that the policy harming Ontario lacked a
solid conservative intellectual basis, regardless of how complicated it might
have made Carney's diplomacy efforts at that specific moment. Hmmm,
and actually the global reaction kind of confirms legitimacy of

(12:23):
the core message, doesn't it. The material shows that even
China's embassy used a similar Reagan clip on social media
around that time. That suggests the stance that high tariffs
hurt global workers and consumers is a globally recognized, credible
challenge to the administration's protectionist economic policy. If major global
actors recognized Reagan's words as an effective counter argument, it

(12:44):
suggests it wasn't merely some provincial political stunt. It was
tapping into a powerful, widely understood economic argument.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
So if we accept its political effectiveness, or at least
its perceived effectiveness, we have to address the consequence the
US Act terminating all trade talks immediately. That still seems
potentially like a disproportionate response to just an ad right.
We should remember this wasn't the first time the President

(13:11):
had threatened to cease talks. There was that earlier instance
over a digital services tax that Canada eventually rescinded, doesn't
this heavy focus on the rhetoric on who said what
and how they said it? Doesn't it distract from the
actual substance of the trade issues themselves, like the real
economic harm inflicted by those fifty percent tariffs on steel
and aluminum, or maybe the status of promised tariff exemptions

(13:33):
for goods falling under the free trade agreement he himself
had negotiated.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
That's a fair point about proportionality. It certainly looks extreme
on a surface, but have you considered the cumulative effect.
Perhaps from the administration's perspective, they were already facing intense
public and legal pressure over this tariff policy, and that
crucial Supreme Court decision was looming. So the use of
again seventy five million dollars in foreign governmental funds to actively,

(13:57):
as they saw it, manipulate a US political idea coming
immediately after weeks of tension where Ford had been openly
calling on US lawmakers to pressure the president. While perhaps
that combination justified the administration's severe reaction in their eyes, Okay,
the administration, it seems, viewed this as a deliberate foreign
attempt to undermine their signature economic policy and potentially to

(14:19):
interfere with a critical judicial process that elevates the dispute
from just a typical trade spat, however, heated to something
they perceived as a matter of protecting domestic political integrity. Therefore,
ceasing those high stakes trade talks with Carney was seen
from their side as a necessary defensive measure against what
they perceived as calculated external sabotage.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Okay, to wrap up then, from my side, I to
reaffirm that the core quoted message of the advert remains
fundamentally true to Reagan's overwhelming long term free trade principles.
The advert was strong advocacy, yes, but it was driven
by the severe economic consequence is of these disproportionate tariffs

(15:02):
on Ontario's major industries. It was, in essence a political
defense of the regional economy using historically factual, even if
selectively presented material to try and secure its future.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
And I would maintain that political tactics relying on selective
audio and the deliberate removal of crucial high stakes context
ultimately undercut the entire conversation, especially when the demonstrable goal
appears to be influencing ap pending high stakes legal decision
regarding the scope of presidential authority over trade policy. In
this case, I believe the means tainted the message, regardless

(15:37):
of the messages inherent validity in other contexts.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Well, this material certainly demonstrates the profound difficulty does in
it of balancing these high stakes international trade negotiations with
the well aggressive power of public rhetoric and the weight
of historical memory.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Absolutely, and the complexity of this specific trade dispute involving
both federal players like Prime Minister Carnee trying to secure
a stable deal and provincial players like Premier Ford prioritizing
regional jobs and perhaps a more public spectacle. That dynamic
clearly remains a source of continued disagreement, and I think
warrants much deeper exploration beyond just this immediate rhetorical conflict.
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