November 7, 2025 • 33 mins
In this episode, Rhonda and Brian Swan share how they built a multimillion-dollar brand while traveling the world, raising a family, and inspiring entrepreneurs to live life on their own terms. From surfing waves to scaling businesses, they reveal the secrets to freedom, partnership, and living without limits.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, lovely people. This is Nicole and this is Samantha.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
With the power of we, we are here to switch
it up and teach you about business relationships and how
to not only survive but make it in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
In each episode, we will have top influential guests from
the world of real estate. We work hard, we stage hard,
and we get it done the power of we.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
And we're back. I can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's been a week, always a week, as you know,
it's I'm in gratitude right now because I've gotten a
huge car accident and I told my car and I
couldn't believe it. You know, I'm so lucky you are.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
And I think that's what we've been doing all week
with our reps and everyone in life. We've been trying
to do gratitudes every morning. Yep, what are you grateful
for today?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Not crying that I'm already crying. I love you. I'm grateful
for you is You're amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I'm also grateful for so much in life. I'm grateful
for my amazing team, my fiance. I'm grateful for the
incredible guests that we have on that are gonna be
very exciting today. It's like amazing. I mean, you know,
after that accident, it was like a quick oh my.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
God, and I'm back.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, it woke me up.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Good.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So let's get started. We are here because we have
some exciting guests, incredible guests today. I cannot wait.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Ronda Swan is the CEO of Unstoppable Branding Agency, the
hosts of The Ronda Swan Show, and creator of the
best selling Woman Gone Wild series. She has been featured
on Fox Business, c NBC, and Bloomberg and is known
for helping entrepreneurs, especially women, build authentic brands and lasting
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legacies while building life as a devoted mom.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Who else do we have?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
We also have her amazing husband, Brian Swan, also known
as the Unstoppable Surfer, is the co founder of the
Unstoppable Branding Agency. A former robotics engineer and investor, he
left corporate America to pioneer digital freedom. Today, he inspires
entrepreneurs worldwide by providing ways to build a multimillion dollar brand,
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travel the globe, and live life on your own terms.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
So welcome, Yay, look at this unstoppable family. Your daughter,
I know your daughter is supposed to be on here.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
So I'm going to give you trouble, but that's exciting.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
So tell us how do you balance being this unbelievable
you know, business person, wife, mom, everything.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Well, that's a really good question. I don't know that
I do, Yes, you do. I truly appreciate you having
us on because it is you know, with women, right,
we juggle so many things, right mom? You know my husband,
we literally are living kind of separately right now because
we full time live in Bali, Indonesia.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, it's impressives.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Yeah, so last seventeen years our family has been out
of the US.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
So wait, you moved out of the US for seventeen years.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
How did you make that decision?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
That's crazy? I know.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Well it's everyone thinking it would be a glorious thing
that happened to us, right, like, oh, they had so
much money and everything happened so beautifully. Well it was
quite opposite. Actually. Brian was a robotics engineer. I was
a corporate executive for a pharmaceutical company and I watched
a woman put a six week old baby in daycare
and this was like, you know, now, twenty five some
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years ago, and I said to him, I'm going to
quit my job because I don't ever want to put
a baby in daycare like that. I want to be
primary influence in her life.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
And you said, I said, I don't care if i'm
my boss's boss's boss. We're not going to be able to,
you know, pay for this million dollar house and everything.
And this is back in two thousand and five when yeah,
you know, we were investing in real estate. Things were happening.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Yeah, And why did you pick Well, there's there's so
much to that, so I'll do it very quickly so
that you can fill in the gaps because I think
the story that we have is quite inspiring, not.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Only for your audience, but for families. And you're asking
about balance. Balance tends to come from a lot of resilience.
I feel that you you strengthen your your resilience muscle.
And when I told him that I wanted to not
put my child in daycare, he's like, well, you know,
figure this out. Then I said, okay, cool, Well this
is an five three And this is right when the
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Internet was really starting to kick. And I remember watching
a documentary Steve Jobs and he's like, if you don't
understand digital marketing, you will be lost in the in
the dark. And I was like, digital marketing, what the
heck is that?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Right?
Speaker 5 (05:09):
And so we were, you know, heavily investing in real
estate development. We were developing large projects in Flagstaff, Arizona,
and our plan was that we were going to have
a baby in three years and then this development would
just set us completely straight. Because back then, you know
this five four, five, six, seven and eight, we couldn't
lose every home we bought, every home we sold. We
were just crushing it. And but sure enough we you know,
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I quit my job, I retired. Brian's Yeah, that's impressively.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I don't know if I would have done it.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
It was. It was crazy. It was scary because everyone
thought I was insane.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Right, I can see you already, what kind of person
you are? You're my type of person.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, I thought she was crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
He did. He was like.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Yeah, and I was like, no, I'm going to figure
this out. So all along I'm trying to learn digital
marketing and working with Perry Marshall, who wrote the algorithm
for Google, all of our friends. I was nuts, you know,
because their tradition, all right, robotics, engineer, pharmaceutical, corporate, all
our friends were corporate and when I said I'm retiring
him because I made enough money to retire both of us,
everyone thought I was still crazy. Well, we crushed it.
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We grew the business for like two three years, and
that's when we were really heavy in real estate. But
as you know, seven o eight, that's when the market
started to do a lot of fun things. And we
actually had a developer that he was a fraud. Wow, yeah,
so what.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Would you say?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And then also like this is the time when you
start to learn when the things that happened.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Exactly in my career, I'm.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Like, holy shit, what's what am I going to do
to me? But now you either walk forward, take each step,
or you don't.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And what did you do?
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Well?
Speaker 4 (06:47):
What happens like when we the developer stole all the
construction loans, so we had like five.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
He drained all the everybody.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
It wasn't just us, it was about twenty other families,
my even my parents, my sister, it was. But what
happened is if you've ever read the book The Four
Hour work Week, so it's Tim Ferriss, So back there
was this chapter in it, and this is back in
two thousand and six, two thousand and seven about the
mini retirement where you could live anywhere in the world
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for a fraction of the price, Like, right, I believe
that you had something online And I was like, when
we're losing it, when we realize we're losing everything, I was.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
Like, what if we just what if we just got
rid of our thing? And it really stems back.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I'm going to tell a little story, and I just
talked about this on my speech was especially from your accident.
Never My dad died of aides when I was sixteen.
Between the ages of eleven and sixteen, I got to
see what an expiration date was. He didn't know if
he had six months to live, a year to live,
two years. Fortunately lives for five years. But he took
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my brother, my sister, and myself traveling all around the world,
you know, through writing pyramids, you know, camels, through the
peers and geeze that's down the Amazon River. So at
a young age, I got to realize you're never guaranteed
another day in your life. And when Ronda, when we
realized we're losing everything, she goes.
Speaker 7 (08:11):
I vowed never to put my daughter in daycare.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
And our daughter was one at that time, and I
looked at her and I said, we're never guaranteed another
day in our life.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
Let's go live now. We sold everything.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
And that also goes back to which I want everyone
to really hear this fear exactly. And this is what
I teach my girls all the time. You cannot stay
in the fear. And this is what you guys did.
You didn't stay in the fear and you.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Took the steps. This is exciting.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Okay, we only received so much flock in hatred like
this was back in you know, Facebook is just and
we were like, we're just going to sell everything.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
How could you do this to your daughter? She's going
to have no no.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Well, because because remember we had so I had quit
my job already three years before, right, so all this
planned internet stuff I'm talking about, people still thought we
were crazy. Then we build this business, retire ourselves, so
we're crushing it cash heavy, start investing boom. Then we
lose it. So we had this three year arc where
everyone already thought it was going to be a bad idea.
Then we lose it. So they're like, okay, you proved
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it to yourself, Fine, go back and get your job.
And so we had that Precipice. That moment again where
we had to make a decision to say, Okay, you're right,
it would be so much easier to go back and
get our jobs. We have a brand new baby, my girl,
my daughter was just born, she was actually thirty three.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Years made you not want to go back and get
that job? What made you inside feel like I got this?
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Well, this was that vow when I said to him
three years before, I don't ever want to put a
baby in daycare, and so we could have easily fell
back on that, and I went no, We said we
don't want to ever do this. And this is when
he read that book and was like, hold on, there's
an option that we have here. And when we said okay,
we're going to fire sale it all, we literally short
sailed our home. We sold you want to We lived
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in Lahoya in California, right, we lived in La Joya.
We put everything in our front yard. Like you want
to talk about leave your ego at the door when
you're so committed and the fear is your your your
vision is so much bigger than even the fear that
you've got right in your purpose, Yeah, your vision is
bigger than the fears We literally stood there were like
I see this vision raising this baby, never put any daycare,
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and then this idea of we could actually start and
run our business. It's already online. We were already running ads,
running on them. This isn't oh fibe six seven and eight, right,
So that's what happened. And then we when we fire
sold everything, it was like we're doing it and we left.
We left with eight bags dough was just under a
year and we became the Unstoppable family. Before digital nomads
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was a thing, right, Like we were doing voiceover ips
with our phone to try to call lead's. Like there
was no Skype, there was no right.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
I know.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I tell the girls, when I started my business, there
was no book, there was nothing. I was basically marching
my two offices making calls. You know what I'm saying,
Like they have it easy compared to how I had
to do it.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
You started your company the same time two thousand and.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Eight, Yeah, exactly, girl.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Yeah, we left on the year now remember down two
thousand and eight.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Now there's everything Internet, there's a constant conduct, there's everything.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
You guys have everything on your finger.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
It was the first thing you guys did to start
this company once you got to Bali.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Well, Bali was just spend ten years. So this was
literally almost eighteen years ago that we left. My daughter's
name is Hanilay. We were married in Honolai Bake, Hawaii,
and she had never been there. So we're like, okay,
you know what, we were married five years ago. It's
our five year anniversary. So we left on November twenty fifth,
and November twenty eighth was our five year anniversary and
that's the first place that we went. We started in Hawaii.
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But to be straight up, we literally left with twelve
eight hundred and seventy two dollars and sixty two cents
to our name, wow, with a vision in a vow
to not put her into a here and to rebuild
our life and to get our mind out of that
like you know, lawyers.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
It was insane, like we had to.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Foul bankruptcy, like you want to talk about your ego,
had to leave the ego at the door and just
walk away from all these pressures that everyone was giving us.
So when did it turn well, I mean we because
we had already been set up strategically online like we were,
you know, after like three four months, it was like,
we started telling our story. And that's why what we
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do now when it comes to brand building, pr media,
it's about story. And I don't care how much AI
you got, I don't care how much you know you
can do on social media. Human real stories, real connection.
That's why I love this. Real resilience is what people
are crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Real.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I always tell.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Them pick up the phone, don't hide behind the text
or email, because you're not going to get anywhere.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I'm so sad someone else can understand.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Right, It's like, because we're so used to this texting,
this human connection, and that's what we did.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You know what's crazy right now? It's so.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Influenced by the Instagrammers and all that that I don't
even understand the branding stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
It drives me.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I feel like, that's why what you guys do is
so important. Yeah, so a lot of things people are
doing now is geared towards AI and computer generated stuff,
which isn't the same at all.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
No, and and people can see through that. We just
hosted event this weekend, wild X and it was about
you know, your story matters, creating stages for people to
share their story, and the whole audience said we're seeing
now that more people are going to start coming into
these human connections community right back inch of belly to belly.
So all the young generations are going to continue to
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do what they're doing, but they're going to come back.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
And so funny because I was doing my business, I
was doing it at networking events, restaurants, inviting all the
real atures and I still do that to this day
and it really helps. It helps like create because I
feel like my team can actually talk to people that
are there and they're not.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Just exactly and you realize no human, Like.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I love what you're doing. That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
You touched my heart, like you open this this podcast
and you're crying like that's real, you know, and to
be able to let others through all these digital lines
that we're human beings and that's what that's what supports people,
that's what grows lives. That's what changes people's lives is
through our stories and our resilience. Like you got up,
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you know, I had a near death experience, Like it
shook me to the bone right right, and you're like, wow,
I'm here and I have an impact to leave. And
so that's what really happened, and we just started growing.
So because we were telling story and YouTube, it just
came out. So we started uploading videos and just going
we're the unstoppable family. Look we lost everything, but it
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doesn't mean it defined you, you know, and so people.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
And that's so important for today because here's the thing. Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn,
whatever it is. Girls, guys, they go on there and
they're like, why is in my life like this?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Why don't I have this? Why don't I look like this?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
And so it's I love having people like you guys
on because you're being vulnerable and you're telling your story.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
And look where you are today, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
It's like, and you have a beautiful daughter that was
supposed to be on it and that we hopefully will
have her on one day.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
But she's how old eighteen.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Eighteen, she'll be nineteen in April. We left when she
was one. She's lived in you know, fifty some countries. Now,
she's a photographer. She started her first company and she
was eleven for six figures at twelve, fashion designer, you know,
London Fashion Week, New York Fashion Week, and then when
she was fifteen, she pretty much.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
Retired before COVID.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
She just she was getting flown from Bali to like
USA to speak on stages.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Right before COVID, she was giving her talk about slow fashion,
fast fashion. Uh huh, and somebody asked her, what is
you know? What do you see for yourself in five years?
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
She just sat there and said, I think I'm gonna
just give it a break.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
That's real. I love that, that's real. I mean she's
very young to God said a boundary.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
But that's you know that you can do anything you
want if you just put your mind to it.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
That's the key.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
And she you know, she's she borrowed twenty bucks from
us and started her company literally, you know. And that's why.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
So you are definitely like me, go get her on
top of your kid, You're on top of your husband.
I'm the same way. Trust me on top of my fiance.
I'm on topping Nicole.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Where's the cls of Brandon? Are you selling? Trust me?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
So?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
How go?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
But so for me, I bring a lot of spiritual
the into my life. I do a lot of meditation,
we do meditation classes, we have life coaches. So for us,
you know, I had family members that had businesses and
it never worked.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
So I said, that's not going to be me.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
What's going to happen is I'm going to have a
life coach for my business and for family. So we
have that in our business so we can, you know,
be free. What do you guys do to be able
to express yourselves?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Well, for Ronda and I, we've been I'm the co
founder with Ronda for the Unsoppable branding agency, but it's
her baby, right, She's the face of it. I've been
working kind of behind the scene some sales marketing and
then you know, what's what's happened. We've been doing that,
but then we've been doing.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Real estate back in Bali.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
I'm splitting time right now to where they're back in
the US full time, but I'm going back. We have
our properties, but then also working projects there so in development.
So it's kind of like we got the combination.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
But to answer your question specifically, is that we've been
together for twenty seven years. That's that's impressive, right, Mary,
never been apart, and part of our relationship is our
spirituality and it's our connection. I knew that it hasn't
been a perfect twenty seven years. No, of course, right,
and people ask like, how did you do do it?
But you know, there's some really strong values that we
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hold in our relationship there not only because we work
together too, right, And there's certain things that you do
every single day that I'd rather you share it because
it's very impactful. It's change our relationship.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
So this was part of my talk on how do
you live? Because you never guaranteed another day in your life.
So I break it up on how can you do
it every single day? Like I have four the core
four you got your body right? So every single day training,
this is your weapon. You got to have your body right.
Relationship with my wife and my daughter, I put daily
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deposits into their account. What I mean by that, I've
been picking flowers every single every day. My wife note
every single day.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
I have books and books of notes that he's written every.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
Day, daily deposits.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
If you want to get that's amazing. I love that.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, a lot of men and in Los Angeles could
take notes from you.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I hear from all my.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Girls and it's so simple and easy that.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Right, you just do it.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
It's also because you're being selfless, You're not in your ego,
you're actually a man that is trying to make your
life better and the people around you better, and damn it,
that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
But you know it's also I'm selfish in the fact
that it gives me so much reward to of course,
of course, and then the you know.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
Our business you got to have.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
You got to be doing things where you have a
purpose behind it, right, you're contributing, you're doing something good
for the world.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
And then connection with God, like.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I just certainly be in the Bible last year every
single day and then and this is what I do
every single morning. I'm kind of filling my cup on
the core for and then there's some passion that you
really love.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
And for me it's surfing.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
M hmm.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
And when I'm surfing all for these pillars work.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
And you're definitely in the spiritual vibe. And what's your passion?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Yeah, I mean my passion is besides work. Well, I'm
me too, I'm a worcoholic. It's funny when one time
someone asks my daughter was actually drawing, She's like, she
drew up just drawing a picture. She's like, I just momy,
you were a worker, you were like to work, and like, okay, right,
what am I passionate about? But I truly I'm passionate
about not only my family, but seeing in other people
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something they don't see in themselves.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
That's amazing, right.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Like that that just turns me on to be able
to shine a light on someone. Like obviously we do
branding and all the things that we do, but to
do that in a way that allows someone to read
a story about themselves or to see themselves be interviewed
like this. You know, I host a show at the
New York Stock Exchange. You know, it's on all these
big stations. It's like when people see themselves, they realize
they're self worth. Right, And even though people are like,
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you know, so good at what they do in business,
when they actually feel supported and someone shines a light
on them, because I know, you shine a light on
everyone else, but man, the moment lights on you run me.
It's like, wow, thank you for that. So that that's
what I really really truly love.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
That's that's incredible. So tell us a little bit about
your business.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, I mean, I mean this is your baby.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, we want to hear because it's like branding makes
me absolutely want to jump off of thing. No, I'm
just kidding, but it's not fun for me because I've
been through so many different companies.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I've talked to so.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Many different and people that say they're going to do
one thing, they don't do it. You know, it's just
never what people say.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I feel like it's also hard when you're starting a
company to figure.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Out what that brand should mean exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
So how do you guys do it? Like I know,
some people say, like you find your values and then
you kind of go into how what makes a brand?
I guess is my question.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Yeah, it's a really great question. I mean, I think
there's a lot of definite definitions that people could you know,
use and and why you're annoyed with it is because
it hasn't touched your heart right because anyone that's trying
to tell you just to look at your colors and
your fonts, we don't do any of that. I say,
what's your story? What do you care about? What are
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your core values? What are your core values that brings
into your business that allows someone to see a heartbeat?
And so we're storytellers, you totally are.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
And then when I was talking to you, I was like, see,
we have the home staging, we have the store online,
and we have this, but it's all together exactly right.
Your story needs to be about how we make people's
dreams come true.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Lass.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
You know, they don't have to just buy our stage furniture.
They can go on our store and I just gave
a million dollars to Midnight.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Mission, right, But that's part of you. So a brand
is it's what comes through you. Others that have just
product brands, Yeah, sure, you can just sell a product.
I don't sell products. I don't brand people that say, oh,
this is my widget. I say I will work with
you if you act, have a heartbeat, if you care,
if you want to leave an impact, and then we
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rap story around that. And then of course all the
things that you do, like your family, Like that's part
of your values, is your family.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Right.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
It sounds like you're probably pretty damn good at what
you do, So being excellent at what you do and
showcasing that and that's really how we built our company.
And I've launched literally over twenty five hundred brands of courses,
products with people that have a heartbeat. And that's why
people like Gary V. Richard Branson, they're on the front
of their brand. Richard Branson doesn't talk about flying airplanes
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or Virgin, but he is Virgin. Gary v is Vandermedia.
But no one really knows anything about what they do
in their media company. They just know Gary Vee. It's passionate,
he's driven, his story about his wine time with his dad.
That's what you care about. So when you care about
someone's story and their values, you just choose what they
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offer is what you need? Yeah, right, So we just
feel gaps tell stories and help people shine, and you love.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
What you do. I can tell and that's half the battle.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
And what you know, like most of the businesses that
when they start out, it's like we were doing that
for ourselves. So but then we started creating it, you know,
for others, and we're like, man, we're pretty good at this.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah, well, I think you're also passionate about it. You're
you are good at I can tell. When I was
talking to your team, I mean, we love Thomas and
he was amazing, Yeah, you guys are passionate and we
were like no, no, no, touly expensive for me. And
he was like yeah, but I mean, do you know
how many times a deal goes through my desk I have.
(24:39):
They're saying, yeah, but okay, what can we do to
help you? Because that's la La is very expensive here
I mean the world, but especially where we are in
Los Angeles, So it's it was interesting.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Yeah, And when you're great at what you do, you
can hold the price, you can hold your value, and
you say, this is what we are the best, Like,
we know we are the best. There's millions of people
that can try to be like you, but none of
them can be.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
So what would you say was your most favorite client?
Speaker 5 (25:11):
I mean, we've got a lot of amazing clients that
we support. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Maybe like a story, a story that changed with your
client that you you didn't expect.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
That's a great one.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
I mean, you know, we've I've worked with so many
women that are just great at what they do and
they didn't realize that the moment they started to tell
their story, their businesses accelerate, right. And so I think
we also as women, we get stuck in the dude,
the doing right and being good at the doing and
chicking the boxes and doing all that, but the moment
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we actually get vulnerable and say, wow, you know I
was this was scary for me. And I'm raising my
child and you know, I'm good at what I do
because I don't. I don't do what I do because
I'm actually just good at it. I do what I
do because it creates the means for my family to
be together, literally, right, So when we start connecting the
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dots to the best brands in the world, it's because
of the heartbeat that comes from it, right. And that's
you know, that's where even.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
The event that we just had, Yes, we had the
you know, the three of us.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
She was doing photography, I'm running the event.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
He's speaking, sad. I mean, how proud were you?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
And you were actually thinking about like your whole family
is there, Like I'm proud of my kids all the time.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Yeah. And that's when you can help someone not only
tell their story, but to grow in their business because
of the work that you do, right, Like you guys
help people get beautiful homes, right, sell their home that
changes their life correct, right?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, Like when I'm speaking, they're always asking why do
you do this? And I was like, because you know what,
I really believe because when I was out during pandemic,
no one was out. I was there when.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
They were they were begging me.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
They wanted to get to everywhere Africa, anywhere they could
and just sell my house. And I knew that I
was making their dream come true at that moment, and
that's when I go, Okay, this.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Is like makes it worth and you put your head on.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I mean, it's not just for money. It's never been
to be you know, a goal. And also you know,
when I started, there was no career for women in staging.
There was no career for anyone in staging. And people
are like, oh, you're never gonna make it. I'm like,
you want to watch and I'm going to teach women
how to be successful in this career. And they would say,
(27:36):
do you have your design license? I was like, no,
why do I need my design lins? I'm teaching myself
and then I and we ended up, you know, creating
this career for women, teaching them, creating a whole you know,
program for them so they feel confident. And that's what's
so important. Yea, And that's what you guys are doing.
You're making people feel confident.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Yeah. Absolutely, And you know we're came with so many women.
I'm in the founder of the book series called Women
Gone Wild. The Feminine Guide to Fearless Living. So, of
course in branding, it's very parallel to Girls Gone Wild
and we were growing up and that was very polarized.
Knee back then, maybe it was very polarizing, right, it
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is a name. People are like, that's like Girls Gone Wild?
Is it like the new version of women? Said, well,
it's it's women that are bold enough to disrupt and
be willing to step into the fear without it mattering, right,
and to step over because we know success on the
other side of fear.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
They don't even know. She doesn't even know what Girls
Gone Wild is.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
That's so funny because girls.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Go from Wild and bunch of girls they in hot
bathing suits.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It was like they were showing themselves. It was like spring.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Right.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
A friend of ours is one of the guys that
actually created it was so cool. It was fun, but
you know, it's that was definitely a wasn't such a
positive light on women, which is why we chose to
call our book and Women Gone Wild the Family Guide
to Fearless Living for women telling their stories. We take
twenty five women, we tell their story, and then I
build their brand all year so that those stories, those
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are the most impactful moments that I've actually had in
my career. And that was like, you know, that wasn't
where I make my money, right, So usually the biggest
impact that you leave isn't usually where you're making the
most amount of money or supporting people. Of course, you know,
and I know you guys have your you give, you
give so much back, ye in the given back when
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you're giving to someone who's actually.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
It is seriously like, I just went to the midnight
mission and I saw these people that you know, had
just came off the streets with their kids, and it
was it's just crazy, yeah, but you know what, they
were so grateful to see me and to see what
we were going to do that the little kids were
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running up tagging on me, can like trying.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
To help me. I was like, okay, this is why
I do this.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Yeah, and it brings you you know, when people were watching,
they're like, oh, they've had it all right, everything's great
for you. But when you just said that about a
woman on the street and her children, that brought me
back the day when we found out we were losing everything, right,
and I was so at that moment hopeless. I have
a literally a brand new baby in my lap. I'm
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sitting in a million plus a dollar home and we
can't afford even put to pay Skype credit. Like we
literally he bought a five dollar burrito and I almost
freaked out because it took our account thirty five dollars
overdraft because it was five dollars over draft and they
charged us thirty five dollars for it. Right, So people
look and think, oh, you've got it all, but there
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was a moment where we literally had nothing.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
And this is why I have people like you. We
have people like you on the podcast, cause people right
now are so in fear, they're so scared.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Exactly your friends. You've heard people.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
They're they're like, what am I going to do with
my life?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
What am I going to do?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
And think about it. Look where you came from and
look what you're doing. It's super inspiring. It's so incredible.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
And some of the biggest like your biggest like downfalls,
your mess is your message. Yeah, so when you're going
so like for the people that are listening right now,
if you're going through a hard time, a lot of times,
the best thing is on the other side of it.
My father dieding of eight. It's tragic thing. But if
I would, that would have never happened. I would not
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have known that. You know, you're not guaranteed another day.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
You kind of go live.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Now when we lost everything, where's like now our identity
of of what we own, that's not who we are,
and that our whole life.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Well, we lost everything and now that we've lived in
fifty countries, right, if that didn't happen to us, we
would have never been sitting right here.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
With you right. Oh my god, this has been so amazing.
You have so much to talk about. It's already been
forty eight minutes. Wow, you guys are amazing, amazing.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
This is amazing. I'm so grateful you guys came on.
Can you tell everybody how they can find you?
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Yeah? Absolutely. I like to play a lot on Instagram
and so Ronda Swan is my name, but our company
is the Unstoppable Branding Agency. That's where you can see
all the fun stuff that we do for clients and
all the TV shows that I host.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Dot com on Brian Tswan dot com and that's where
you can find us.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Yeah, you can find Unstoppable Family as well. Our whole
family's connected on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
So check them out there. They are definitely unstoppable. Thank
you so much for so much.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Thank you, that's amazing. M.
Hello, lovely people. This is Nicole and this is Samantha.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
With the power of we, we are here to switch
it up and teach you about business relationships and how
to not only survive but make it in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
In each episode, we will have top influential guests from
the world of real estate. We work hard, we stage hard,
and we get it done the power of we.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
And we're back. I can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's been a week, always a week, as you know,
it's I'm in gratitude right now because I've gotten a
huge car accident and I told my car and I
couldn't believe it. You know, I'm so lucky you are.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
And I think that's what we've been doing all week
with our reps and everyone in life. We've been trying
to do gratitudes every morning. Yep, what are you grateful
for today?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Not crying that I'm already crying. I love you. I'm grateful
for you is You're amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I'm also grateful for so much in life. I'm grateful
for my amazing team, my fiance. I'm grateful for the
incredible guests that we have on that are gonna be
very exciting today. It's like amazing. I mean, you know,
after that accident, it was like a quick oh my.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
God, and I'm back.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, it woke me up.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Good.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So let's get started. We are here because we have
some exciting guests, incredible guests today. I cannot wait.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Ronda Swan is the CEO of Unstoppable Branding Agency, the
hosts of The Ronda Swan Show, and creator of the
best selling Woman Gone Wild series. She has been featured
on Fox Business, c NBC, and Bloomberg and is known
for helping entrepreneurs, especially women, build authentic brands and lasting
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legacies while building life as a devoted mom.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Who else do we have?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
We also have her amazing husband, Brian Swan, also known
as the Unstoppable Surfer, is the co founder of the
Unstoppable Branding Agency. A former robotics engineer and investor, he
left corporate America to pioneer digital freedom. Today, he inspires
entrepreneurs worldwide by providing ways to build a multimillion dollar brand,
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travel the globe, and live life on your own terms.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
So welcome, Yay, look at this unstoppable family. Your daughter,
I know your daughter is supposed to be on here.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
So I'm going to give you trouble, but that's exciting.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
So tell us how do you balance being this unbelievable
you know, business person, wife, mom, everything.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Well, that's a really good question. I don't know that
I do, Yes, you do. I truly appreciate you having
us on because it is you know, with women, right,
we juggle so many things, right mom? You know my husband,
we literally are living kind of separately right now because
we full time live in Bali, Indonesia.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, it's impressives.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Yeah, so last seventeen years our family has been out
of the US.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
So wait, you moved out of the US for seventeen years.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
How did you make that decision?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
That's crazy? I know.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Well it's everyone thinking it would be a glorious thing
that happened to us, right, like, oh, they had so
much money and everything happened so beautifully. Well it was
quite opposite. Actually. Brian was a robotics engineer. I was
a corporate executive for a pharmaceutical company and I watched
a woman put a six week old baby in daycare
and this was like, you know, now, twenty five some
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years ago, and I said to him, I'm going to
quit my job because I don't ever want to put
a baby in daycare like that. I want to be
primary influence in her life.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
And you said, I said, I don't care if i'm
my boss's boss's boss. We're not going to be able to,
you know, pay for this million dollar house and everything.
And this is back in two thousand and five when yeah,
you know, we were investing in real estate. Things were happening.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Yeah, And why did you pick Well, there's there's so
much to that, so I'll do it very quickly so
that you can fill in the gaps because I think
the story that we have is quite inspiring, not.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Only for your audience, but for families. And you're asking
about balance. Balance tends to come from a lot of resilience.
I feel that you you strengthen your your resilience muscle.
And when I told him that I wanted to not
put my child in daycare, he's like, well, you know,
figure this out. Then I said, okay, cool, Well this
is an five three And this is right when the
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Internet was really starting to kick. And I remember watching
a documentary Steve Jobs and he's like, if you don't
understand digital marketing, you will be lost in the in
the dark. And I was like, digital marketing, what the
heck is that?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Right?
Speaker 5 (05:09):
And so we were, you know, heavily investing in real
estate development. We were developing large projects in Flagstaff, Arizona,
and our plan was that we were going to have
a baby in three years and then this development would
just set us completely straight. Because back then, you know
this five four, five, six, seven and eight, we couldn't
lose every home we bought, every home we sold. We
were just crushing it. And but sure enough we you know,
(05:32):
I quit my job, I retired. Brian's Yeah, that's impressively.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I don't know if I would have done it.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
It was. It was crazy. It was scary because everyone
thought I was insane.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Right, I can see you already, what kind of person
you are? You're my type of person.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, I thought she was crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
He did. He was like.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Yeah, and I was like, no, I'm going to figure
this out. So all along I'm trying to learn digital
marketing and working with Perry Marshall, who wrote the algorithm
for Google, all of our friends. I was nuts, you know,
because their tradition, all right, robotics, engineer, pharmaceutical, corporate, all
our friends were corporate and when I said I'm retiring
him because I made enough money to retire both of us,
everyone thought I was still crazy. Well, we crushed it.
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We grew the business for like two three years, and
that's when we were really heavy in real estate. But
as you know, seven o eight, that's when the market
started to do a lot of fun things. And we
actually had a developer that he was a fraud. Wow, yeah,
so what.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Would you say?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And then also like this is the time when you
start to learn when the things that happened.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Exactly in my career, I'm.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Like, holy shit, what's what am I going to do
to me? But now you either walk forward, take each step,
or you don't.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And what did you do?
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Well?
Speaker 4 (06:47):
What happens like when we the developer stole all the
construction loans, so we had like five.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
He drained all the everybody.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
It wasn't just us, it was about twenty other families,
my even my parents, my sister, it was. But what
happened is if you've ever read the book The Four
Hour work Week, so it's Tim Ferriss, So back there
was this chapter in it, and this is back in
two thousand and six, two thousand and seven about the
mini retirement where you could live anywhere in the world
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for a fraction of the price, Like, right, I believe
that you had something online And I was like, when
we're losing it, when we realize we're losing everything, I was.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
Like, what if we just what if we just got
rid of our thing? And it really stems back.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I'm going to tell a little story, and I just
talked about this on my speech was especially from your accident.
Never My dad died of aides when I was sixteen.
Between the ages of eleven and sixteen, I got to
see what an expiration date was. He didn't know if
he had six months to live, a year to live,
two years. Fortunately lives for five years. But he took
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my brother, my sister, and myself traveling all around the world,
you know, through writing pyramids, you know, camels, through the
peers and geeze that's down the Amazon River. So at
a young age, I got to realize you're never guaranteed
another day in your life. And when Ronda, when we
realized we're losing everything, she goes.
Speaker 7 (08:11):
I vowed never to put my daughter in daycare.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
And our daughter was one at that time, and I
looked at her and I said, we're never guaranteed another
day in our life.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
Let's go live now. We sold everything.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
And that also goes back to which I want everyone
to really hear this fear exactly. And this is what
I teach my girls all the time. You cannot stay
in the fear. And this is what you guys did.
You didn't stay in the fear and you.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Took the steps. This is exciting.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Okay, we only received so much flock in hatred like
this was back in you know, Facebook is just and
we were like, we're just going to sell everything.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
How could you do this to your daughter? She's going
to have no no.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Well, because because remember we had so I had quit
my job already three years before, right, so all this
planned internet stuff I'm talking about, people still thought we
were crazy. Then we build this business, retire ourselves, so
we're crushing it cash heavy, start investing boom. Then we
lose it. So we had this three year arc where
everyone already thought it was going to be a bad idea.
Then we lose it. So they're like, okay, you proved
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it to yourself, Fine, go back and get your job.
And so we had that Precipice. That moment again where
we had to make a decision to say, Okay, you're right,
it would be so much easier to go back and
get our jobs. We have a brand new baby, my girl,
my daughter was just born, she was actually thirty three.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Years made you not want to go back and get
that job? What made you inside feel like I got this?
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Well, this was that vow when I said to him
three years before, I don't ever want to put a
baby in daycare, and so we could have easily fell
back on that, and I went no, We said we
don't want to ever do this. And this is when
he read that book and was like, hold on, there's
an option that we have here. And when we said okay,
we're going to fire sale it all, we literally short
sailed our home. We sold you want to We lived
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in Lahoya in California, right, we lived in La Joya.
We put everything in our front yard. Like you want
to talk about leave your ego at the door when
you're so committed and the fear is your your your
vision is so much bigger than even the fear that
you've got right in your purpose, Yeah, your vision is
bigger than the fears We literally stood there were like
I see this vision raising this baby, never put any daycare,
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and then this idea of we could actually start and
run our business. It's already online. We were already running ads,
running on them. This isn't oh fibe six seven and eight, right,
So that's what happened. And then we when we fire
sold everything, it was like we're doing it and we left.
We left with eight bags dough was just under a
year and we became the Unstoppable family. Before digital nomads
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was a thing, right, Like we were doing voiceover ips
with our phone to try to call lead's. Like there
was no Skype, there was no right.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
I know.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I tell the girls, when I started my business, there
was no book, there was nothing. I was basically marching
my two offices making calls. You know what I'm saying,
Like they have it easy compared to how I had
to do it.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
You started your company the same time two thousand and.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Eight, Yeah, exactly, girl.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Yeah, we left on the year now remember down two
thousand and eight.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Now there's everything Internet, there's a constant conduct, there's everything.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
You guys have everything on your finger.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
It was the first thing you guys did to start
this company once you got to Bali.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Well, Bali was just spend ten years. So this was
literally almost eighteen years ago that we left. My daughter's
name is Hanilay. We were married in Honolai Bake, Hawaii,
and she had never been there. So we're like, okay,
you know what, we were married five years ago. It's
our five year anniversary. So we left on November twenty fifth,
and November twenty eighth was our five year anniversary and
that's the first place that we went. We started in Hawaii.
(11:50):
But to be straight up, we literally left with twelve
eight hundred and seventy two dollars and sixty two cents
to our name, wow, with a vision in a vow
to not put her into a here and to rebuild
our life and to get our mind out of that
like you know, lawyers.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
It was insane, like we had to.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Foul bankruptcy, like you want to talk about your ego,
had to leave the ego at the door and just
walk away from all these pressures that everyone was giving us.
So when did it turn well, I mean we because
we had already been set up strategically online like we were,
you know, after like three four months, it was like,
we started telling our story. And that's why what we
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do now when it comes to brand building, pr media,
it's about story. And I don't care how much AI
you got, I don't care how much you know you
can do on social media. Human real stories, real connection.
That's why I love this. Real resilience is what people
are crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Real.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I always tell.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Them pick up the phone, don't hide behind the text
or email, because you're not going to get anywhere.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I'm so sad someone else can understand.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Right, It's like, because we're so used to this texting,
this human connection, and that's what we did.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You know what's crazy right now? It's so.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Influenced by the Instagrammers and all that that I don't
even understand the branding stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
It drives me.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I feel like, that's why what you guys do is
so important. Yeah, so a lot of things people are
doing now is geared towards AI and computer generated stuff,
which isn't the same at all.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
No, and and people can see through that. We just
hosted event this weekend, wild X and it was about
you know, your story matters, creating stages for people to
share their story, and the whole audience said we're seeing
now that more people are going to start coming into
these human connections community right back inch of belly to belly.
So all the young generations are going to continue to
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do what they're doing, but they're going to come back.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
And so funny because I was doing my business, I
was doing it at networking events, restaurants, inviting all the
real atures and I still do that to this day
and it really helps. It helps like create because I
feel like my team can actually talk to people that
are there and they're not.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Just exactly and you realize no human, Like.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I love what you're doing. That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
You touched my heart, like you open this this podcast
and you're crying like that's real, you know, and to
be able to let others through all these digital lines
that we're human beings and that's what that's what supports people,
that's what grows lives. That's what changes people's lives is
through our stories and our resilience. Like you got up,
(14:27):
you know, I had a near death experience, Like it
shook me to the bone right right, and you're like, wow,
I'm here and I have an impact to leave. And
so that's what really happened, and we just started growing.
So because we were telling story and YouTube, it just
came out. So we started uploading videos and just going
we're the unstoppable family. Look we lost everything, but it
(14:48):
doesn't mean it defined you, you know, and so people.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
And that's so important for today because here's the thing. Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn,
whatever it is. Girls, guys, they go on there and
they're like, why is in my life like this?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Why don't I have this? Why don't I look like this?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
And so it's I love having people like you guys
on because you're being vulnerable and you're telling your story.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
And look where you are today, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
It's like, and you have a beautiful daughter that was
supposed to be on it and that we hopefully will
have her on one day.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
But she's how old eighteen.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Eighteen, she'll be nineteen in April. We left when she
was one. She's lived in you know, fifty some countries. Now,
she's a photographer. She started her first company and she
was eleven for six figures at twelve, fashion designer, you know,
London Fashion Week, New York Fashion Week, and then when
she was fifteen, she pretty much.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
Retired before COVID.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
She just she was getting flown from Bali to like
USA to speak on stages.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Right before COVID, she was giving her talk about slow fashion,
fast fashion. Uh huh, and somebody asked her, what is
you know? What do you see for yourself in five years?
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
She just sat there and said, I think I'm gonna
just give it a break.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
That's real. I love that, that's real. I mean she's
very young to God said a boundary.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
But that's you know that you can do anything you
want if you just put your mind to it.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
That's the key.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
And she you know, she's she borrowed twenty bucks from
us and started her company literally, you know. And that's why.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
So you are definitely like me, go get her on
top of your kid, You're on top of your husband.
I'm the same way. Trust me on top of my fiance.
I'm on topping Nicole.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Where's the cls of Brandon? Are you selling? Trust me?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
So?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
How go?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
But so for me, I bring a lot of spiritual
the into my life. I do a lot of meditation,
we do meditation classes, we have life coaches. So for us,
you know, I had family members that had businesses and
it never worked.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
So I said, that's not going to be me.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
What's going to happen is I'm going to have a
life coach for my business and for family. So we
have that in our business so we can, you know,
be free. What do you guys do to be able
to express yourselves?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Well, for Ronda and I, we've been I'm the co
founder with Ronda for the Unsoppable branding agency, but it's
her baby, right, She's the face of it. I've been
working kind of behind the scene some sales marketing and
then you know, what's what's happened. We've been doing that,
but then we've been doing.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Real estate back in Bali.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
I'm splitting time right now to where they're back in
the US full time, but I'm going back. We have
our properties, but then also working projects there so in development.
So it's kind of like we got the combination.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
But to answer your question specifically, is that we've been
together for twenty seven years. That's that's impressive, right, Mary,
never been apart, and part of our relationship is our
spirituality and it's our connection. I knew that it hasn't
been a perfect twenty seven years. No, of course, right,
and people ask like, how did you do do it?
But you know, there's some really strong values that we
(18:11):
hold in our relationship there not only because we work
together too, right, And there's certain things that you do
every single day that I'd rather you share it because
it's very impactful. It's change our relationship.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
So this was part of my talk on how do
you live? Because you never guaranteed another day in your life.
So I break it up on how can you do
it every single day? Like I have four the core
four you got your body right? So every single day training,
this is your weapon. You got to have your body right.
Relationship with my wife and my daughter, I put daily
(18:42):
deposits into their account. What I mean by that, I've
been picking flowers every single every day. My wife note
every single day.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
I have books and books of notes that he's written every.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
Day, daily deposits.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
If you want to get that's amazing. I love that.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, a lot of men and in Los Angeles could
take notes from you.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I hear from all my.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Girls and it's so simple and easy that.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Right, you just do it.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
It's also because you're being selfless, You're not in your ego,
you're actually a man that is trying to make your
life better and the people around you better, and damn it,
that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
But you know it's also I'm selfish in the fact
that it gives me so much reward to of course,
of course, and then the you know.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
Our business you got to have.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
You got to be doing things where you have a
purpose behind it, right, you're contributing, you're doing something good
for the world.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
And then connection with God, like.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I just certainly be in the Bible last year every
single day and then and this is what I do
every single morning. I'm kind of filling my cup on
the core for and then there's some passion that you
really love.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
And for me it's surfing.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
M hmm.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
And when I'm surfing all for these pillars work.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
And you're definitely in the spiritual vibe. And what's your passion?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Yeah, I mean my passion is besides work. Well, I'm
me too, I'm a worcoholic. It's funny when one time
someone asks my daughter was actually drawing, She's like, she
drew up just drawing a picture. She's like, I just momy,
you were a worker, you were like to work, and like, okay, right,
what am I passionate about? But I truly I'm passionate
about not only my family, but seeing in other people
(20:24):
something they don't see in themselves.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
That's amazing, right.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Like that that just turns me on to be able
to shine a light on someone. Like obviously we do
branding and all the things that we do, but to
do that in a way that allows someone to read
a story about themselves or to see themselves be interviewed
like this. You know, I host a show at the
New York Stock Exchange. You know, it's on all these
big stations. It's like when people see themselves, they realize
they're self worth. Right, And even though people are like,
(20:50):
you know, so good at what they do in business,
when they actually feel supported and someone shines a light
on them, because I know, you shine a light on
everyone else, but man, the moment lights on you run me.
It's like, wow, thank you for that. So that that's
what I really really truly love.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
That's that's incredible. So tell us a little bit about
your business.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, I mean, I mean this is your baby.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, we want to hear because it's like branding makes
me absolutely want to jump off of thing. No, I'm
just kidding, but it's not fun for me because I've
been through so many different companies.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I've talked to so.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Many different and people that say they're going to do
one thing, they don't do it. You know, it's just
never what people say.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I feel like it's also hard when you're starting a
company to figure.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Out what that brand should mean exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
So how do you guys do it? Like I know,
some people say, like you find your values and then
you kind of go into how what makes a brand?
I guess is my question.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Yeah, it's a really great question. I mean, I think
there's a lot of definite definitions that people could you know,
use and and why you're annoyed with it is because
it hasn't touched your heart right because anyone that's trying
to tell you just to look at your colors and
your fonts, we don't do any of that. I say,
what's your story? What do you care about? What are
(22:08):
your core values? What are your core values that brings
into your business that allows someone to see a heartbeat?
And so we're storytellers, you totally are.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
And then when I was talking to you, I was like, see,
we have the home staging, we have the store online,
and we have this, but it's all together exactly right.
Your story needs to be about how we make people's
dreams come true.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Lass.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
You know, they don't have to just buy our stage furniture.
They can go on our store and I just gave
a million dollars to Midnight.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Mission, right, But that's part of you. So a brand
is it's what comes through you. Others that have just
product brands, Yeah, sure, you can just sell a product.
I don't sell products. I don't brand people that say, oh,
this is my widget. I say I will work with
you if you act, have a heartbeat, if you care,
if you want to leave an impact, and then we
(23:04):
rap story around that. And then of course all the
things that you do, like your family, Like that's part
of your values, is your family.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Right.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
It sounds like you're probably pretty damn good at what
you do, So being excellent at what you do and
showcasing that and that's really how we built our company.
And I've launched literally over twenty five hundred brands of courses,
products with people that have a heartbeat. And that's why
people like Gary V. Richard Branson, they're on the front
of their brand. Richard Branson doesn't talk about flying airplanes
(23:32):
or Virgin, but he is Virgin. Gary v is Vandermedia.
But no one really knows anything about what they do
in their media company. They just know Gary Vee. It's passionate,
he's driven, his story about his wine time with his dad.
That's what you care about. So when you care about
someone's story and their values, you just choose what they
(23:54):
offer is what you need? Yeah, right, So we just
feel gaps tell stories and help people shine, and you love.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
What you do. I can tell and that's half the battle.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
And what you know, like most of the businesses that
when they start out, it's like we were doing that
for ourselves. So but then we started creating it, you know,
for others, and we're like, man, we're pretty good at this.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah, well, I think you're also passionate about it. You're
you are good at I can tell. When I was
talking to your team, I mean, we love Thomas and
he was amazing, Yeah, you guys are passionate and we
were like no, no, no, touly expensive for me. And
he was like yeah, but I mean, do you know
how many times a deal goes through my desk I have.
(24:39):
They're saying, yeah, but okay, what can we do to
help you? Because that's la La is very expensive here
I mean the world, but especially where we are in
Los Angeles, So it's it was interesting.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Yeah, And when you're great at what you do, you
can hold the price, you can hold your value, and
you say, this is what we are the best, Like,
we know we are the best. There's millions of people
that can try to be like you, but none of
them can be.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
So what would you say was your most favorite client?
Speaker 5 (25:11):
I mean, we've got a lot of amazing clients that
we support. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Maybe like a story, a story that changed with your
client that you you didn't expect.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
That's a great one.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
I mean, you know, we've I've worked with so many
women that are just great at what they do and
they didn't realize that the moment they started to tell
their story, their businesses accelerate, right. And so I think
we also as women, we get stuck in the dude,
the doing right and being good at the doing and
chicking the boxes and doing all that, but the moment
(25:46):
we actually get vulnerable and say, wow, you know I
was this was scary for me. And I'm raising my
child and you know, I'm good at what I do
because I don't. I don't do what I do because
I'm actually just good at it. I do what I
do because it creates the means for my family to
be together, literally, right, So when we start connecting the
(26:08):
dots to the best brands in the world, it's because
of the heartbeat that comes from it, right. And that's
you know, that's where even.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
The event that we just had, Yes, we had the
you know, the three of us.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
She was doing photography, I'm running the event.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
He's speaking, sad. I mean, how proud were you?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
And you were actually thinking about like your whole family
is there, Like I'm proud of my kids all the time.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Yeah. And that's when you can help someone not only
tell their story, but to grow in their business because
of the work that you do, right, Like you guys
help people get beautiful homes, right, sell their home that
changes their life correct, right?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, Like when I'm speaking, they're always asking why do
you do this? And I was like, because you know what,
I really believe because when I was out during pandemic,
no one was out. I was there when.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
They were they were begging me.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
They wanted to get to everywhere Africa, anywhere they could
and just sell my house. And I knew that I
was making their dream come true at that moment, and
that's when I go, Okay, this.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Is like makes it worth and you put your head on.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I mean, it's not just for money. It's never been
to be you know, a goal. And also you know,
when I started, there was no career for women in staging.
There was no career for anyone in staging. And people
are like, oh, you're never gonna make it. I'm like,
you want to watch and I'm going to teach women
how to be successful in this career. And they would say,
(27:36):
do you have your design license? I was like, no,
why do I need my design lins? I'm teaching myself
and then I and we ended up, you know, creating
this career for women, teaching them, creating a whole you know,
program for them so they feel confident. And that's what's
so important. Yea, And that's what you guys are doing.
You're making people feel confident.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Yeah. Absolutely, And you know we're came with so many women.
I'm in the founder of the book series called Women
Gone Wild. The Feminine Guide to Fearless Living. So, of
course in branding, it's very parallel to Girls Gone Wild
and we were growing up and that was very polarized.
Knee back then, maybe it was very polarizing, right, it
(28:18):
is a name. People are like, that's like Girls Gone Wild?
Is it like the new version of women? Said, well,
it's it's women that are bold enough to disrupt and
be willing to step into the fear without it mattering, right,
and to step over because we know success on the
other side of fear.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
They don't even know. She doesn't even know what Girls
Gone Wild is.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
That's so funny because girls.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Go from Wild and bunch of girls they in hot
bathing suits.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It was like they were showing themselves. It was like spring.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Right.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
A friend of ours is one of the guys that
actually created it was so cool. It was fun, but
you know, it's that was definitely a wasn't such a
positive light on women, which is why we chose to
call our book and Women Gone Wild the Family Guide
to Fearless Living for women telling their stories. We take
twenty five women, we tell their story, and then I
build their brand all year so that those stories, those
(29:17):
are the most impactful moments that I've actually had in
my career. And that was like, you know, that wasn't
where I make my money, right, So usually the biggest
impact that you leave isn't usually where you're making the
most amount of money or supporting people. Of course, you know,
and I know you guys have your you give, you
give so much back, ye in the given back when
(29:37):
you're giving to someone who's actually.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
It is seriously like, I just went to the midnight
mission and I saw these people that you know, had
just came off the streets with their kids, and it
was it's just crazy, yeah, but you know what, they
were so grateful to see me and to see what
we were going to do that the little kids were
(30:00):
running up tagging on me, can like trying.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
To help me. I was like, okay, this is why
I do this.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Yeah, and it brings you you know, when people were watching,
they're like, oh, they've had it all right, everything's great
for you. But when you just said that about a
woman on the street and her children, that brought me
back the day when we found out we were losing everything, right,
and I was so at that moment hopeless. I have
a literally a brand new baby in my lap. I'm
(30:26):
sitting in a million plus a dollar home and we
can't afford even put to pay Skype credit. Like we
literally he bought a five dollar burrito and I almost
freaked out because it took our account thirty five dollars
overdraft because it was five dollars over draft and they
charged us thirty five dollars for it. Right, So people
look and think, oh, you've got it all, but there
(30:48):
was a moment where we literally had nothing.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
And this is why I have people like you. We
have people like you on the podcast, cause people right
now are so in fear, they're so scared.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Exactly your friends. You've heard people.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
They're they're like, what am I going to do with
my life?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
What am I going to do?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
And think about it. Look where you came from and
look what you're doing. It's super inspiring. It's so incredible.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
And some of the biggest like your biggest like downfalls,
your mess is your message. Yeah, so when you're going
so like for the people that are listening right now,
if you're going through a hard time, a lot of times,
the best thing is on the other side of it.
My father dieding of eight. It's tragic thing. But if
I would, that would have never happened. I would not
(31:33):
have known that. You know, you're not guaranteed another day.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
You kind of go live.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Now when we lost everything, where's like now our identity
of of what we own, that's not who we are,
and that our whole life.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Well, we lost everything and now that we've lived in
fifty countries, right, if that didn't happen to us, we
would have never been sitting right here.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
With you right. Oh my god, this has been so amazing.
You have so much to talk about. It's already been
forty eight minutes. Wow, you guys are amazing, amazing.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
This is amazing. I'm so grateful you guys came on.
Can you tell everybody how they can find you?
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Yeah? Absolutely. I like to play a lot on Instagram
and so Ronda Swan is my name, but our company
is the Unstoppable Branding Agency. That's where you can see
all the fun stuff that we do for clients and
all the TV shows that I host.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Dot com on Brian Tswan dot com and that's where
you can find us.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Yeah, you can find Unstoppable Family as well. Our whole
family's connected on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
So check them out there. They are definitely unstoppable. Thank
you so much for so much.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Thank you, that's amazing. M.
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