May 19, 2023 • 42 mins
In this Episode Samantha and Nicole will be joined by Lil Texas.I They will discuss his career as a musician, how he started, how is it going and How to balance sobriety and hard core.
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Hello, lovely people, and thisis Samantha. With the power of OUI.
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OUI. Hey, Sam, howare you doing on this beautiful day?
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Oh my god, amazing, amazing. I'm just so grateful to be in
this room and here on earth andjust sober and happy, and you know,
it's just such a great life welive. I just come to be
more thankful. I am so gratefultoo. I mean, first of all,
I cannot believe I hit one ofmy bucket lists and buying a house
in Palm Springs, and I'm soproud of you. That's absolutely beautiful.
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It was so fun to do,and you know, it's just so nice
to have a different place. Andalso we're so used to staging for everyone
else and then doing my own housewith you guys, it was like,
what the hell is going on here? I know, it's just such a
full circle moment because we used togo to Palm Springs, growing up,
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and like everything just really comes fullcircle and n and it's yeah, totally,
that's exactly what I want to say. Everything comes back full circle.
I'm so grateful for so much inmy life, and like we have gone
through so much together, you know, craziness, ups and downs, drinking
sobriety, and we've met some incrediblepeople. Speaking of full circle, we
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have an incredible guest here today.I want who close friends, and his
name is Little Texas. If youguys don't know who that is, I'm
sure you do. Little Texas hasbecome a new household name for speed freaks
around the world. A master collaborator, Little Texas consistently links with Ford Thinking
acts and dance music and beyond.He's released music alongside Kaizo, Dorian Elektra,
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Deadly Guns, and many other acrossthe variety of styles. Through his
unconventional approach to music, he's inspiredartists who've never delved into hardcore before to
join the texcore movement. Welcome littleTypo, Little Texas. Honestly, I've
never met anyone like you ever ever, And but you know what, with
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all of this tattoos and all thatyou're doing you have so much freaking class,
I want to tell you. Andyou know, we met you know,
through Nicole, and it's just beenlike to watch you like listeners,
if you're out there. He hada dream, he had a dream to
come here and be who he is. How the do you do that?
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A lot of trials and tribulations,but a lot of hard work and uh,
you know, just setting a settinga goal and uh working hard towards
that goal. You know. Soif they don't know who you are,
tell us a little bit about yourmusic, tell us a little bit about
what you're all about. Well,I'm a hardcore, hard style DJ UM
and electronic music producer UM so producerDJ, I mean the electronic dance music
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industry, UM and I do thatfull time. That's been my career for
the going on five years now.It's incredible. Yeah, thank you,
And uh, you know, Imoved to La to chase the dream and
here we are and um it's beenit's been really fun. And I've gotten
to do I've gotten to be myselfand be extreme and sort of push boundaries
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and be on the fringe of theelectronic dancement regular DJ. Yeah. Yeah,
and that and that's you know,that's me at my core. And
have you gotten like a lot ofbad press from it? Do you?
How do you handle I mean,oh, you're stream I will say that,
yeah, but it's like you looklike you're having a ball. Does
he look like he's having a ball? You push the boundaries right? Yeah?
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How does that work inside? Becausea lot of people find that really
hard to do? So what givesyou that like strength to do that?
Uh? You know, I've alwayskind of been that way that I've never
really been It sounds a little corny, but like a mainstream type of guy.
Um, I've always been interested inthings that are out on the fringe,
things that are sort of counter culture. Um. That's just been a
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part of my life since I wasa very young child. In fact.
Wow, Um, so it waslike the first thing you remember. Uh.
I just remember being really really intolike the new metal movement of the
late nineties. Um, and sowhen I was, I mean it was
pretty popular back then, but evenso, like I was into bands that
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were you know, dark and alternativeand on the fringe of popular music,
you know. So I think itreally did start there with like my affinity
for like bands like Corn and Slipknotand then like the punk rock thing that
was happening back then. Yeah,yeah, And so I don't know if
I was early in that, Ican't really tell, but I definitely was
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attracted to things that were a littlebit out there, you know, and
while they were popular, I stillthink that starting there sort of allowed me
to dive even deeper into that stuff, um, at least when I was
a little kid. And so yeah, I think bringing that into my brand
and being on the fringe, likeI'm just I'm just not a like go
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in the middle type of guy.You know, really, I don't say,
And so I think if I triedto do that, I don't think
it would click. I think thata guy like me has to be on
the fringe, has to kind ofbe out there, and and so to
get to do that, I'm absolutelyhaving a blast. Like you said,
like when I'm doing what I'm doing, a lot of people out there that
are like you. You know whatI'm saying, because i mean, I
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watch your shows and there's eight zillionpeople I'm like, what is going on
here? I mean, how manyshows are you doing? Are you doing
one every week? Or yeah?Pretty much since January. I've had one
weekend off, so I think we'vedone like thirty plus shows. I think
four different countries. No, nomore than that, five or six countries
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Europe and America. You're always onthe move, you know, always in
the party scene, right, like, yeah, around a bunch of crazy
shit. How do you balance thatlike level of your sober right, yes,
so how do you balance that sobrietyand like kind of like like use
that to even be better in yourmusic? You know, people ask me
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all the time, they go,oh, that must be so hard,
Oh, that must be so hardto be in that environment. And I
always tell them, like, actually, it's not. Initially there was like
you know, a learning phase whereit was, you know a little bit
uncomfortable going into those situations and notyou know, partaking in the things that
I used to partake in. Butat this point in my life, I
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have so much to lose yea.And if I draw a link back to
like not you know, getting reallyyou know, screwed up on drugs and
partying and then cleaning up, like, if I draw the line my life
after getting cleaned up is just it'sjust so indicative of the success that that
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was the catalyst to where I whatI get to do today. Look,
I don't think your career would bewhere it is today if you were still
doing no exactly exactly. There's likea there's like a hinge. There's like
a turning point, you know,it's like you clicked in the key and
now you're raring to go. Yeah, and I don't want to give it
up. Yeah, And I justdon't want to give that up. There's
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no been there, done that.Um, I really don't need it at
this point point. And that's amazing, It's incredible. Yeah, it gives
you something that I like, reallyrespect about you is you have so much
like determination, Like you know,you go to the gym every day.
You you really get your shit done. You like book out your time.
You're very organized and like always thankyou for coming on. No, of
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course, of course, it's alwaysa pleasure to you know, spread some
positivity and spread some motivation, right, and what motivates you, uh,
growth? You know, I justwant to you know, be better.
I want to be better. Andit's in two aspects. There's the like
sort of three D world ego individuation, like make yourself successful, get a
nice house, you know, starta family, have nice things, and
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be successful. That that is sucha big part of happiness and growth.
While it is not everything, there'salso like you know, the forty five
D spiritual you know, other sideof the component that's a little bit not
worldly. It's not like the materialstuff, and so it's the spirituality.
Yeah, both of those things motivateme. And it's like I want to
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be that like full bodied individual who'syou know, both sides, you know,
sort of the uninyang coming in asone, well kind of thing you're
with Okay, this is so Iwant to see how high I can get.
Oh, you're gonna get high,trust me, I can see it.
But you're with so much energy allthe time. And sometimes like she's
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a highly sensitive person, I'm not. I can be with a lot of
a lot of different individuals. ButI'll tell you when I come back from
Vegas, I feel the energy andespecially you know when you're sober, so
you deal with all these people.What do you do to clear your head?
Do you meditate? Do you imean go to what do you do?
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Uh? Yeah, you know it'slike a daily sort of practice that
I don't do perfectly, but forme. It's there's like four components to
life, and it's you know,physical health, mental health, and then
like sort of the spiritual type health. And I use the word spiritual.
Don't have a better word, butI think it's a it's a good enough
word to describe what I'm talking about. So whatever your affiliations are, I'm
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talking about, you know, thatkind of notion. And then there's like
my creative health, you know,and so um, those four aspects of
my life. I try to liketake care of those, and I've just
seen that a daily practiced in thoseareas seems to yield results a hundred thousand
percent. I know when she's offher spiritual track or anythink I can tell
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when I'm off. She's like,oh, Mom, please meditate do something.
Yeah. And I think meditation isI think that the like sort of
Eastern sort of thing with meditation andsort of reflection back into consciousness, sort
of trying to turn consciousness on itself, notions of sort of dissolving even the
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concept of a self or an eye, you know, at least momentarily.
I think that there's empirical evidence overthe course of the you know, centuries
that that is is a process,and not even in a mystical way,
in a very logical, rational waythat that process and it's via meditation.
I think that's a very good vesselthat it works. And in fact,
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they're doing a lot of I'm readinga book by Sam Harris right now called
Waking Up, and they're they're doinga ton of scientific research that that processes
like meditation actually like lower activity inthe DSM, which is the part of
the brain that makes you feel crazy, that makes you feel unsettled, that
you know, causes entropy inside themind, right, um, And so
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processes like meditation lower that. Andalso there's just empirical evidence that people who
meditate are nicer. They're just getsstarted, you feel good. I don't
know for anyone else, but forme, it's like my head is calm.
Yeah, no, no, no, say, there's so many different
ways you can meditate. For me, I do like to do the you
know, shut your eyes type deal. Of course, a lot of people
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like can go on walks and thatcan be a meditation, or ride their
bike, and there's just different waysto go In word, yeah, and
I think it's connecting with the moment, you know, because it's always now,
you know, and it's talking tothe universe. That's something we're talking
about, Like we're always in thenow, and like there's so many times,
like especially our minds, we havelike sixty to eighty thousand thoughts today,
So you want to think about thepast or the future or what what
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is going to happen or what mighthappen or just like go into that like
craziness. But like just being inthe now brings you to like the moment
you're in. It makes you realizelike everything's okay, Like focus on your
breath and the meditation is Yeah,absolutely, I think, And I think
there's there's certainly a serious power inthat. Yeah. Um, and I've
experienced it in my life. Butit's an experiential thing, like we have
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to do it, you know,And I think a lot of people get
a little you know, they're like, oh, that sounds so like new
agy or whatever, and I'm likemaybe, but like do it and you'll
see. And it's like I don'tthink centuries of people who've been doing this
stuff are wrong, right, youknow. And then if you're doing something
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you love, like when you're onstage, I bet you're so in the
now right. Yeah, absolutely,that's like, wow, that's that's I
can't even imagine being in front ofall those people. I mean, Nicole
and I went to London and wespoke in front of I don't know,
four or five hundred people, andI was terrified. We were jet lagged
like crazy, and Nicole's like canShe sat down on the chair where I
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had to do the speech, andlet me just tell you my jumpsuit has
a big rip in the hole andmy ass so I had to keep my
jacket on. It was a disaster, but we ended up killing it.
But it would also feel like,like you know, she was talking about
highly sensitive people. I feel likethere's different people take on energy different ways.
So some people like you, Iwould assume, like thrive off of
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a lot of people and a lotof energy of course, and like kind
of it feeds you. Other peoplelike need a it all more like you
know, space, and then likeit doesn't feed them, it more drains
them. So I feel like kindof finding what it is for you because
for you that's something that you driveoff. Yeah. I love performing,
I always have. I just genuinelyenjoy it. Were you the one when
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you were a kid like you justwant to perform for everyone. And yeah,
I mean, yeah, of courseI don't know what it is.
Maybe it's because I'm five eight,you know what I mean. So I
got a little chip, So Igot a chip on my shoulders. So
I got to prove myself, youknow what I mean. There's certainly something
there. Wait, are you performingall over the world or just in La
Yeah? All over the want toknow more about you? Yeah, all
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over the world. Well, itwas just in Austin this weekend. Austin,
Texas was good and playing in Cologneand Stuttgart this weekend amazing exciting.
Yeah, then two shows at ETCVegas next week and then I want to
come. Can I get VI ticketsand go on backstage? You know?
A hardcore is now one day,one day when I Lanella, you gotta
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come. I am definitely coming.I mean, look, yeah, but
we're I've been to the shows.They're incredible. Yeah, we're all over
Switzerland, I think. And thenyeah, right after that at Switzerland Paris,
and then I fly from Paris toVietnam to play in Hoachiman cities.
And and how is it so likewhen you go and there's are they streaming
for you. Do they want totalk to you? Oh? Yeah,
yeah, I love you. Yeah. My fans are are very hardcore.
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Yeah, very hardcore. What doesthat mean? Please not everyone? Okay,
so yeah you could. I meanjust the genre, it's yeah,
I mean do you like music?No? No, no. It's been
around since the nineties, but itwas never a huge thing, was it.
Well, in the late nineties,hardcore was very big, Like the
Dutch started it. It started inthe Netherlands. It's probably the biggest like
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young person cultural movement to ever comeout of Netherlands. So are the Dutch
really a big followers of you?Yeah? Yeah, I definitely have a
big fan base there. I'll bein Holland a bunch of times this summer.
My booking agency for your Up atleast is based out of Holland.
Um And there was a scene inthe you know States, and there still
is a scene. There's always beena scene, but but it's gone through
different sort of like phases and it'sgotten big and gotten small, got an
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underground. But in the late ninetiesit was certainly big in New York and
la um And. So now itis evolved and it's spread out into like
a myriad of subgenres between hard styles. So it's it's really just like how
fast it is. Yeah, um, so I'm I'm leaning into the really
fast paced two hundred bpm stuff.Um, and there's hard style, which
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is you know, a lot slowerone fifty to one sixty. And so
there's an whole you know, myriadof experience. You do you have somebody
that motivates you, a coach,Well no, not really. I don't
have a coach, but there arepeople who I look up to, you
know. Um well, I reallylike I listened to a lot of podcasts,
you know, and so I'm veryinterested in in people who are first
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of all intelligent, but mostly peoplewho are very into what they're doing right,
you know. Um, So itdoesn't matter what you're doing, but
if you're super passionate about it,that's the most important. And that's yeah,
exactly, And that's really I cankind of take away something from everybody.
So I've been really on like LexFriedman's podcast lately, and he has
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everybody from you know, Rogan toSam Harris to astrophysicists to Grimes. Was
just on it. Um. Yeah, and so so anybody who's really passionate
about what they're doing and and youknow oftentimes successful with that. Um So,
so I always my thing is Ialways go to the people who know
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what they're doing and have gotten results, and so then I can do what
they do. So, you know, I got really into bodybuilding, and
I was like, okay, Iwant to look you know, crazy,
So anymore? Oh yeah, yeah, very even more so? Probably,
um and so I met I hada fan who was a pro bodybuilder,
and so I just became friends withhim. And now he's so excited when
you call them, Oh you're sostoked. Probably was telling all his friends,
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you're not gonna believe who just calledit. So I became really close
with him, and so now I'vegotten, you know, to know a
lot of pro bodybuilders and like it'slike, okay, if I want to
look insane, I should probably goto the source and figure out how to
look insane. And this guy toldme what to do. And then I
did those things literally like he toldme, and I got results that I
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had not gotten. Well, you'resaying something that's really profound, Like you're
you're always on the straight and narrow. You don't seem to veer you don't.
You're not a cheater, You're notlike, you don't edge down,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it seems like when you decide something
like my son, you do it, do it? Do it? Yeah?
Yeah, and that's that's amazing.So like you didn't always do hardcore,
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right, what was like, Oh, yeah, you went to Berkeley?
Yeah I was. I've I havea crazy like evolution through music.
So how did you get to whereyou are in music? Because hardcore is
not yea at Berkeley? Yeah.No, Yeah, that's probably the biggest
like conun m. Actually, thatkind of still kind of baffles me that
I ended up here doing what I'mdoing, And if I really look closely,
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it does make sense. But yeah, you know, I started with
punk rock and then I got reallyinto playing bass, and so like,
you know, getting proficient at myinstrument became a thing. I got really
into jazz, and I got reallyinto you know, it's sort of like
into jam bands and like funk andR and B. Like I really wanted
to be good at my instrument,and so I went to the place,
like I said before, I wentto the place where people were really good
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at their instruments. So usually that'sin jazz and funk and R and B,
these guys who really know music,you know, classical music too.
And so I ended up going toBerkeley and I was gonna, you know,
do jazz and stuff like that.And I did it for a while,
and I did pretty well. AndI was, you know, doing
studio work, and that's what Idid for a long time, and I
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just got kind of sick of beinga sideman. And you know, the
EDM thing kind of blew up inthe late two thousand tens or no,
no, late two thousands, earlytwo thousand and tens. Um. I'm
so weird saying that. Yeah,you know, I don't like time flies.
I know, it really does.And so I was doing that,
and I was doing like you know, trap and future base, and I
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was kind of all over the place, you know. And and the lesson
I learned sort of was hyper focusinto one thing, right at least yields
better results, you know. Andwhile that is a that's a really difficult
concept for people, right, Yeah, you know, definitely, what's my
passion I don't know what I'm passionateabout it. Well, didn't know when
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you started you were trying to findyour way. But what happens is people
stop when they're here, they're tryingto find their way, and they get
frustrated and then they go They justcompletely forget what they're doing instead of keep
going. Well, yeah, andso it took me sort of putting stuff
down. It's one of those youknow, like paradoxes. You know,
it's like let it go and you'llget it um kind of concepts. Yeah,
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but that's true, it works.Yeah, And so I put music
go and yeah it's sign yeah exactly. And so so I let music go.
And I actually was doing a dayjob, and I actually like focused
one day job. I was selling. I was in sales. I was
a phone salesman. I saw itout of here. Yeah, I would
die if you walked into Zombia phone. Well it was on the phone to
nobody knew what I looked like.And I have I have a good white
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person voice, you have a perfectyea. So so I I actually it's
really interesting. I let it allgo and I was like I'm going to
be normal. And I did thatand long three and a half years,
Like wow, really really yeah threeand a half that probably taught you a
lot. Yeah, I know it'sno. And I was making music a
little bit, but I wasn't likefocused on it, and one thing let
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and I was doing little shows hereand there, and one thing led to
the next, and I you know, I was listening to a lot of
hardcore. I was listening to alot of fast paced music in the gym,
and just I kind of returned tomy early childhood. I returned back
to sort of the aggression and thelike hard music, which I love.
Um, and I just started makingit in a clicked It worked right place
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at the right time, So it'samazing. Do you remember the first time
you made your first hardcore song?Yeah, yeah, I do, actually,
um, and it ended up beinglike a big one. Um,
I think it was. It wasreally it's called I'm Excited and uh I
put it out and like within acouple of weeks. I think the branding
was just so different and the factthat I made a song at two hundred
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bpm at that time, it wasn'tlike weird in Europe to do that,
but in the States, within ad M, it was definitely like what
yeah, and aren't you I'm workingon a record right now? Or yeah,
yeah, new album out June June. Now, do you do a
launch party that I'm invited to youalready? Maybe I don't know party,
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I don't know, but yeah,a new record in June. We're dropping
some singles before then. I justdid one last Friday, and um,
how did it go? Good?Good, amazing? So for people that
are listening, so if they wantedto get into music and get into this
world, how would they do it? I mean, if you're gonna get
an electronic music, first of all, you probably need a computer and you
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need a daw so you know,get yourself Ableton or fl Studio or whatever
you want on Ableton. It's justwhat I've used. But they're all good.
As long as you learn your program. You can execute anything. And
you don't like you you're a professionand base you said, yeah, so
you did that? Was that ahuge translation into like the hardcore music you
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make? Now? Not really?But like I know music really well and
I know form really well. Sowhen I hear something, yeah, yeah,
I can pick things out very quickly, right, but I'm like,
okay, this is in g likeit's these notes, and I can pick
it out, and I can hearstructurally and rhythmically like what music is.
It's sort of like language. There'slike syntax to it, and so somebody
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can claim me something and I canbe like, oh, it's just this
fill at this bar and there's thisnote or this kind of sound here,
and then it goes to you know, and I could pick it out really
quickly, really yeah. Like it'slike when I'm staging at home, I
can tell like, why is thatnot touching the wall? Like yeah,
so visual and I haven't staged ina while. But then when I was
doing my house this weekend, Iwas like, no, no, no,
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it just is like, well,yeah, and I'm sure through repetition
you can see the nuances that somebodywho has not yes been in it.
Oh, I can see yes.And that's the beauty of picking one thing
and doing it well exactly because youbecome the expert exactly and you you see
these subtleties right that you're just nevergonna see if you haven't done it for
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your ten thousand hours. So Iwant to hear some crazy stories. Tell
me some crazy fans stories. Toptop Favorite. Oh oh god, there's
so many. There's so many justwild things that have happened, like there's
a girl in Germany. She gotmy name just black, asked it across
her chest on her body. Yeah. Yeah, no way, that's not
even new though, is it.No, that's not that new. But
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I see your periodically when I'm overthere, and I'm like, wow,
dedication is it? I don't knowif you're in a relationship or not.
Not to answer this, but isit hard to meet women? Uh no,
it'd be easier. I mean thatyou want to have a relationship with
Uh yeah, it is not notthat the other thing. Um, yeah,
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I mean I'm in a relationship andI have been for for a long
time, over a year now.Yeah, And and it actually is is
so that's great. So and she'sshe understands this world of yours and she's
super Yeah, she's into the mute, she's into you know, raving and
d N. Yeah. And sowe have different tastes. I mean she's
obviously gotten into you know, hardcorebecause of me, but she she has
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a quite different taste than me.Um with that, and you know,
having support in that way and liketrying to be Yeah, because it's really
easy for for people who like traveland tour to like get on the grass
is greener avoidant attachment type stuff exactly, you know, and I definitely was
there. Like I went from havinglike a kind of anxious attachment type like
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being sort of scared that people weregoing to leave me, to like being
like, well yeah, but maybe, like maybe I just haven't found the
right one. You know, theperfect girl exists, and that's such a
fallacy. The perfect person does notexist. Um. And so like with
sticking with one thing, I thinkthat that's sort of a contrary action type
thing. And I've been in thisrelationship for a while and it's it's gone
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very very well. Amazing. Congratulations. Yeah, one's the wedding. I
don't know, I don't know aboutall that, um, but you know
it's it's good and I'm happy thatmakes you. It helps because besides work,
we need to have our own personallife, you know, and that's
when when we cross and we onlydo one thing and we don't have that,
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that's when things start to happen aswell. So it's really great that
you've mastered that. That's amazing.Well, you know everything, everything,
but you're trying, Um, what'sthe next thing for you? Uh,
Well, go to Germany. Twobig shows in Germany playing this legendary club
called Boat's House, which is absolutelycrazy. Uh. And then e DC
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is always a big time, youknow. Yeah, DC is a big
year, a big thing. Everysingle year. I always train really hard
and like diet and get as inbest shape as I possibly can. I
sort of treat it like a bodybuildingcompetition. So some of my my bodybuilding
friends are actually competing, you know, They're like going to get on the
stage and do that whole thing,and so I don't. I don't want
to do that. But we alltrain together, and we all are dieting
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together and getting as absolutely shredded aswe can to motivate each other. So
we do a big meat and greet, we do merch you know. And
then it's and then it's Europe thissummer um doing a bunch of big festivals
there before I come back. Yeah. Yeah, touring all fall. Like
I was just on tour and it'sover now technically for January like early January
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to now. Wow wow that's yeah. So how do you keep yourself?
You know? Like it weird off? Yeah, it was weird. I
had a weekend off last weekend andit was like so weird. But it
was really nice. I didn't doanything but just like read and work out
and eat good food and that's right. Um, yeah, it was very
very nice. Uh. I comeback during the week and I immediately try
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to get back on the grind,you know. So if I have to,
like if I have to maybe stayup a little bit not nap to
like feel really tired and wake upat nine the next day or eight thirty,
you know, to get back onthe thing after I'm jet lagged,
I'll do that. Um. Andand really it's like sleep right, you
know. But I don't party.So people it was like, oh,
you must be so tired all thetime. And I'm like, you know
(28:56):
at all anymore? But how doyou and you know party, I don't
get drugs. Yeah you're not.Yeah, you're you're going all over the
world. So do you zoom meetingsfor your program or do you go in
person in other states countries? WouldI treat my recovery like it's sort of
like a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I've got eight years
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over eight years now. Yeah,And so it's like kind of like the
loose jacket analogy. I don't knowif you've heard that where you know you
just kind of you put on thejacket every morning. And for me,
it's so not about the quantity.It's really about the quality. And I
sort of treat it like a howdo I describe this, like sort of
like a NASCAR pit stop that it'slike I have my team, right,
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and like those guys do they haveto pull off the track. If they
don't pull off the track, thewheels like explode and die. You know,
Um, you have to come offthe track. And the best guy
has the best team, and sothey you know, did you put the
new wheels on? And he's backout there. And so I treat my
recovery like that. I have mythings that I go back to and I
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get what I need to so Ican go back out on the track,
right, you know, um,and I've had the I mean, if
we are like talking about you knowthat, which it's sort of like breaking
the tradition, right, we're notreally supposed to talk about it, aren't
we publicly? Do you guys?You guys you know program you can you
don't have talking Yeah, yeah,no, no, no, it's cool.
(30:27):
I don't mind talking about it.I always can talk about it,
but that you don't have to.But I'm saying, you know, a
lot of celebrities are sober. Alot of them have come on here,
and it's like everyone has a differentprogram. There's all kinds of different program
Yeah, like my hairdresser does someHindu program I've never even heard of.
But every you know, it's reallyabout like what about like the tool of
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ourself? Yeah? Do you dothat? Like you know, I mean,
because you're really in the thick ofit, so um and you're right,
you know that now about the racecar is freaking amazing you. So
what you're saying is you have amazingpeople around you that you work with,
and that that's actually really important listeners, because no matter what your issue is,
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no matter what you're doing, ifyou have an amazing group of people,
which I do, thank God,that keep you, you know,
straight and grounded and grateful and youknow, really grateful, then you'll want
to make yourself a better person overit is. Yeah, Yeah, I
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mean there's you know, obviously there'syou know, I went I went to
a place and there was people therewho told me what to do, and
I did. I did those thingsthat those people told me to do,
and now I get to be oneof those people that offers that guidance to
newer guy that's actually been the mostrewarding. Well that's that's with anything like
you're doing. So yeah, youknow, yeah, there's so many different
(31:55):
um avenues hardcore right, yes,every hard cars, you're everything for everything
exactly why not? You know yougot to do things with intent? Yeah,
everything with intent? So what madeyou decide to come on the power
of way? Not to put youon the spot or anything. I love
y'all, y'all are y'all are cool, y'all are my you know, my
(32:16):
faves um, and yeah, it'sjust really cool Nicole. It is really
cool to see you now, youknow. Yeah you saw me when I
was like down and back. Yeah, I remember you, you know,
getting coming in yeah. Um,and like to see that now that's what's
(32:37):
cool, you know, And that'sreally cool. I'm gonna cry. Oh
no. But you had a hugelike a huge part and just like you
know how we talk about, Imean, just like having some like different
people you look up to in thatworld of sobriety, just to see like
what it looks like and how youcan actually succeed and do things you love
(32:57):
and still live your life and havefun and be sober and you know you've
showed me that in the beginning andthat was great, So thank you,
thank you any home with my homework, so that that was very home.
Yes, So we always hear abouthow my philosophy paper we wrote. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, it's so interesting. It's so funny looking back on
that because yeah, I really did, I really and why I hate school,
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Oh, because you've been everything You'reinteresting in the podcast just now with
like the ego and all that,Like my brain was like that's from the
paper we wrote. Yeah, itwas just super interesting. And those concepts
actually that were discussed in that paperwe wrote have like appeared over and over
and over again in the like philosophyand psychology that I've studied. Yeah,
I'm a huge reader. I likereally really really love like the mind and
(33:44):
consciousness and like learning. I'm justreally obsessed with learning that. Yeah.
Um, and it's interesting now howmuch it's come out in my like recovery
stuff, Like when I'm speaking aboutrecovery to people, Um, that's easier,
right, yeah, And it's andit's listen, I get a lot
of different types of guys, youknow, and a lot of different types
(34:06):
of people who need to get soberright, you know, And so I
think for me, being as wellequipped with all of the different types of
philosophy and psychology gives me a bettershot at being able to, like,
you know, speak to people andto connect with them, especially if they're
really hardheaded or maybe spiritual concepts area little tough for them, yeah,
(34:31):
or their egos involved. Yeah,or the egos involved. That's really a
tough one. Yeah. Yeah.And so it's been cool. It's been
cool too. I've been on likea little bit of a quest to sort
of like rationally prove spirituality. Youknow. Well, I think it's fucking
amazing that you're like this badass guy. No, I'm not joking. I
(34:51):
remember every side of the Vegas andshe brought you to the table and I
was like, oh my god,what is my What did I do?
I grilled you and you were sosmart, you were on top of your
game, you were full of class, and I thought, wow, that's
really really amazing. But now youlike empower so many people. I mean,
(35:12):
you should be so freaking proud ofyourself. Honestly, be proud of
yourself, because I'm proud of you, and like we talk about you were
like, wow, look at him. He's going and he's not even going
and doing what he's passionate about,but he is making a difference in this
world for people out there are listeners, they're different. They don't want to
do the mainstream, they don't wantto do pop or whatever else. They
(35:35):
want to do maybe what you're doing, and like you're giving them a platform
to say, fuck, yeah Ican do this. Yeah absolutely, And
you know, I think the hugething also is like just being who you
are, you know, like tonot afraid to like just be who you
are and like a lot of peopleyou know, struggle with that and like
finding their identity and you're so openwith that, and I think that's huge
as well. Yeah, you knowthis, the self is a garden,
(35:59):
you know. I think that whetheror not the self is real as a
different story that I don't want totalk about right now, but but nonetheless
we are we are. Certainly thereis certainly a sam inside my head and
like there is a very I thinkthere's really something to like building yourself up
as a garden, you know,and it's like what are you planting in
there? And how can you makeyourself the best version simply put to that
(36:27):
youth important. You got to doall of it. Yeah, at least
for me, I want to bethe like most vibrant I can possibly be.
Right, you know, So ifyou had any words for our listeners,
what would they be? M Liveyour truth and be yourself, you
(36:51):
know, and don't be afraid todo what you want and pick something for
the love of God, something Stopyou are listening to Little Texas is wise,
I mean unbelievable. You are suchan incredible soul. Thank you.
Your passion is not going to hityou over the head one day. That
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is such a fallacy. God,I'm gonna work for it, right,
I'll just know. I'll just knowone day I'll know what I want to
do. No, you won't ryand figure you won't when you're in it.
You do, like Nicole, likework your fucking asshof Even I never
said, oh, you're gonna comework here. She wanted to come work
(37:35):
here and then she's kicked at No, That's why. That's what I was
gonna say too. That's why Ilike y'all because you'll work hard. Y'all
are y'all are your girl bosses?Yes, yeah, girl bosses. You
guys are girl bosses. Yeah,and she's really kicked as. I mean,
you brought up that fact of whenyou know you first met her,
and like, Nicole has changed somuch and she has you know, I
(37:59):
remember like her talking about you,but she creates. She met certain people
that has really changed her way ofthinking and changed her because growing up in
Calabasas, it was very um whatdo you want to say, like like
closed off and so when she openedthis world, it was like wow.
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And sometimes you know, being youknow, having kids, and you would
think, oh, I want toprotect him, want to protect him.
I don't think that's the way becausewhen you open the world, there's so
many great people, there's so manydifferent countries, there's so much out there
in this life. And it's likethat's what's gonna teach us. It's about
the world, not just about oneplace or one thing. And just being
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open minded. I feel like that'ssomething that I learned, and like just
being open minded to learning about newthings and just being open to anyone.
Like in the world, like yousaid, you can take anything from anyone,
Like you don't have to necessarily belike everything said is right but like
like in our podcast today, I'msure you don't agree with some things.
You agree with a lot of thingsor whatever it is, But there's something
(39:04):
if you focus on the positivity,there's something you could take from everyone live
above the line. Yeah, yeah, you know. It's about differentiation.
You have to differ. You gotto make yourself more complex, right right,
you know, and the way todo that is through what you said,
experiences, right, going out andtrying new things, going out and
seeing and going out and soaking itall in and then deciding what you think
(39:28):
is right and wrong or good andbad. Yeah, and you take you
probably take really good things from otherpeople as well. Oh, absolutely all
the time, always learning. Yeah, And it's funny because you know,
people always say you're such a bigpersonality, no one can ever forget you,
But I say that about you.I never forgot little texting it's sam
y. Yeah. No, we'reso grateful you came on and it's so
(39:52):
good to see you like killing itand sure you invite us to back.
Yeah, next time area from me, though, next time I'm in LA,
which needs to be out of thecrash. Yeah, we'll do it
through so we win to your nextshow, and l I do you know
yet? I just did the Observatorylike two weeks ago. Yeah, sold
it out with big deal. It'sgood for me, big step in my
(40:14):
career and huge. How does thatfeel? It was really cool because how
many people wow? And it's ahard ticket room, so there's like you
know, exchange and Academy or softwhere like you sell most of the tickets.
It's going to sell out because it'skind of bottle service and people just
show up. Observatory is like straightup twelve hundred tickets there you go sell
(40:35):
them or don't um And so wedid, and so now we're, you
know, working on towards the nextthing. I think Palladium is like my
next big goal. But that's ahuge jump from where I'm at right now.
So it's three thousand plus tickets,So you can do it? What
do you mean? You're doing itfor sure? And I'm going to be
on the sidelines in my private pad. But next time if I do.
There might be something soon in LAwe don't know yet, but next time
(40:55):
I'll definitely invite it. And ohmy god, great, I'm excited for
you to go to Europe. That'smy happy place me too. Yeah,
it's the best. I'm gonna havethe best time. Oh yeah, So
how do we How do listeners getlook at you? Find you get a
hold of you pretty much at LittleTexas everywhere, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok,
Little Texas Hardcore, you'll find me, um and Spotify likewise a little.
(41:19):
And if people have questions for you, are you open to talking to
them? Yeah? Absolutely, Imean it's pretty hard these days with my
messages being so flooded, I'm sure, um, but I'm always like responding
in comments and stuff. So ifyou comment or if you tweet at me
Twitter, actually, now, ifyou mentioned me is actually a pretty good
way to like communicate with me orlike in the comments of my posts.
It's just really hard to manage mydirect messages, which I used to be
(41:42):
able to but everyone, but yeah, now I can't. I can't anymore.
It's just too Wow. But that'sincredible. Yeah, it's good to
be good problem to have. Yeah, I try. I try to get
as much as I can, butit's you know, yeah, stuff,
that's incredible. Well, how canpeople buy tickets to your next show?
Uh? There really isn't anything bookedtoo much, but you can always go
(42:04):
on my you know, on mypages, and there's like a link to
all the stuff, so new singles, you know, the link tree or
whatever's got the new singles. Youknow, it's got everything. And if
you follow me on the socials youwill certainly see where I'm at. I'm
posting constant content, constantly. Andthen when does your album come out?
It's sometime in June, Yes,in June. You gotta stay tuned.
Yeah, Dorian Electro Roman too.I'm excited for you, very excited.
(42:27):
It's so cool. Thank you somuch, No, thank you for having
this. This was amazing a greatway to start my day. Yeah.
Yeah, great way to start myday. Yes, I thank you,
Thank you so much. Cool
Hello, lovely people, and thisis Samantha. With the power of OUI.
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OUI. Hey, Sam, howare you doing on this beautiful day?
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Oh my god, amazing, amazing. I'm just so grateful to be in
this room and here on earth andjust sober and happy, and you know,
it's just such a great life welive. I just come to be
more thankful. I am so gratefultoo. I mean, first of all,
I cannot believe I hit one ofmy bucket lists and buying a house
in Palm Springs, and I'm soproud of you. That's absolutely beautiful.
(01:08):
It was so fun to do,and you know, it's just so nice
to have a different place. Andalso we're so used to staging for everyone
else and then doing my own housewith you guys, it was like,
what the hell is going on here? I know, it's just such a
full circle moment because we used togo to Palm Springs, growing up,
(01:30):
and like everything just really comes fullcircle and n and it's yeah, totally,
that's exactly what I want to say. Everything comes back full circle.
I'm so grateful for so much inmy life, and like we have gone
through so much together, you know, craziness, ups and downs, drinking
sobriety, and we've met some incrediblepeople. Speaking of full circle, we
(01:55):
have an incredible guest here today.I want who close friends, and his
name is Little Texas. If youguys don't know who that is, I'm
sure you do. Little Texas hasbecome a new household name for speed freaks
around the world. A master collaborator, Little Texas consistently links with Ford Thinking
acts and dance music and beyond.He's released music alongside Kaizo, Dorian Elektra,
(02:16):
Deadly Guns, and many other acrossthe variety of styles. Through his
unconventional approach to music, he's inspiredartists who've never delved into hardcore before to
join the texcore movement. Welcome littleTypo, Little Texas. Honestly, I've
never met anyone like you ever ever, And but you know what, with
(02:39):
all of this tattoos and all thatyou're doing you have so much freaking class,
I want to tell you. Andyou know, we met you know,
through Nicole, and it's just beenlike to watch you like listeners,
if you're out there. He hada dream, he had a dream to
come here and be who he is. How the do you do that?
(03:01):
A lot of trials and tribulations,but a lot of hard work and uh,
you know, just setting a settinga goal and uh working hard towards
that goal. You know. Soif they don't know who you are,
tell us a little bit about yourmusic, tell us a little bit about
what you're all about. Well,I'm a hardcore, hard style DJ UM
and electronic music producer UM so producerDJ, I mean the electronic dance music
(03:25):
industry, UM and I do thatfull time. That's been my career for
the going on five years now.It's incredible. Yeah, thank you,
And uh, you know, Imoved to La to chase the dream and
here we are and um it's beenit's been really fun. And I've gotten
to do I've gotten to be myselfand be extreme and sort of push boundaries
(03:46):
and be on the fringe of theelectronic dancement regular DJ. Yeah. Yeah,
and that and that's you know,that's me at my core. And
have you gotten like a lot ofbad press from it? Do you?
How do you handle I mean,oh, you're stream I will say that,
yeah, but it's like you looklike you're having a ball. Does
he look like he's having a ball? You push the boundaries right? Yeah?
(04:11):
How does that work inside? Becausea lot of people find that really
hard to do? So what givesyou that like strength to do that?
Uh? You know, I've alwayskind of been that way that I've never
really been It sounds a little corny, but like a mainstream type of guy.
Um, I've always been interested inthings that are out on the fringe,
things that are sort of counter culture. Um. That's just been a
(04:33):
part of my life since I wasa very young child. In fact.
Wow, Um, so it waslike the first thing you remember. Uh.
I just remember being really really intolike the new metal movement of the
late nineties. Um, and sowhen I was, I mean it was
pretty popular back then, but evenso, like I was into bands that
(04:56):
were you know, dark and alternativeand on the fringe of popular music,
you know. So I think itreally did start there with like my affinity
for like bands like Corn and Slipknotand then like the punk rock thing that
was happening back then. Yeah,yeah, And so I don't know if
I was early in that, Ican't really tell, but I definitely was
(05:17):
attracted to things that were a littlebit out there, you know, and
while they were popular, I stillthink that starting there sort of allowed me
to dive even deeper into that stuff, um, at least when I was
a little kid. And so yeah, I think bringing that into my brand
and being on the fringe, likeI'm just I'm just not a like go
(05:41):
in the middle type of guy.You know, really, I don't say,
And so I think if I triedto do that, I don't think
it would click. I think thata guy like me has to be on
the fringe, has to kind ofbe out there, and and so to
get to do that, I'm absolutelyhaving a blast. Like you said,
like when I'm doing what I'm doing, a lot of people out there that
are like you. You know whatI'm saying, because i mean, I
(06:04):
watch your shows and there's eight zillionpeople I'm like, what is going on
here? I mean, how manyshows are you doing? Are you doing
one every week? Or yeah?Pretty much since January. I've had one
weekend off, so I think we'vedone like thirty plus shows. I think
four different countries. No, nomore than that, five or six countries
(06:26):
Europe and America. You're always onthe move, you know, always in
the party scene, right, like, yeah, around a bunch of crazy
shit. How do you balance thatlike level of your sober right, yes,
so how do you balance that sobrietyand like kind of like like use
that to even be better in yourmusic? You know, people ask me
(06:48):
all the time, they go,oh, that must be so hard,
Oh, that must be so hardto be in that environment. And I
always tell them, like, actually, it's not. Initially there was like
you know, a learning phase whereit was, you know a little bit
uncomfortable going into those situations and notyou know, partaking in the things that
I used to partake in. Butat this point in my life, I
(07:11):
have so much to lose yea.And if I draw a link back to
like not you know, getting reallyyou know, screwed up on drugs and
partying and then cleaning up, like, if I draw the line my life
after getting cleaned up is just it'sjust so indicative of the success that that
(07:31):
was the catalyst to where I whatI get to do today. Look,
I don't think your career would bewhere it is today if you were still
doing no exactly exactly. There's likea there's like a hinge. There's like
a turning point, you know,it's like you clicked in the key and
now you're raring to go. Yeah, and I don't want to give it
up. Yeah, And I justdon't want to give that up. There's
(07:55):
no been there, done that.Um, I really don't need it at
this point point. And that's amazing, It's incredible. Yeah, it gives
you something that I like, reallyrespect about you is you have so much
like determination, Like you know,you go to the gym every day.
You you really get your shit done. You like book out your time.
You're very organized and like always thankyou for coming on. No, of
(08:16):
course, of course, it's alwaysa pleasure to you know, spread some
positivity and spread some motivation, right, and what motivates you, uh,
growth? You know, I justwant to you know, be better.
I want to be better. Andit's in two aspects. There's the like
sort of three D world ego individuation, like make yourself successful, get a
nice house, you know, starta family, have nice things, and
(08:39):
be successful. That that is sucha big part of happiness and growth.
While it is not everything, there'salso like you know, the forty five
D spiritual you know, other sideof the component that's a little bit not
worldly. It's not like the materialstuff, and so it's the spirituality.
Yeah, both of those things motivateme. And it's like I want to
(09:01):
be that like full bodied individual who'syou know, both sides, you know,
sort of the uninyang coming in asone, well kind of thing you're
with Okay, this is so Iwant to see how high I can get.
Oh, you're gonna get high,trust me, I can see it.
But you're with so much energy allthe time. And sometimes like she's
(09:24):
a highly sensitive person, I'm not. I can be with a lot of
a lot of different individuals. ButI'll tell you when I come back from
Vegas, I feel the energy andespecially you know when you're sober, so
you deal with all these people.What do you do to clear your head?
Do you meditate? Do you imean go to what do you do?
(09:45):
Uh? Yeah, you know it'slike a daily sort of practice that
I don't do perfectly, but forme. It's there's like four components to
life, and it's you know,physical health, mental health, and then
like sort of the spiritual type health. And I use the word spiritual.
Don't have a better word, butI think it's a it's a good enough
word to describe what I'm talking about. So whatever your affiliations are, I'm
(10:05):
talking about, you know, thatkind of notion. And then there's like
my creative health, you know,and so um, those four aspects of
my life. I try to liketake care of those, and I've just
seen that a daily practiced in thoseareas seems to yield results a hundred thousand
percent. I know when she's offher spiritual track or anythink I can tell
(10:28):
when I'm off. She's like,oh, Mom, please meditate do something.
Yeah. And I think meditation isI think that the like sort of
Eastern sort of thing with meditation andsort of reflection back into consciousness, sort
of trying to turn consciousness on itself, notions of sort of dissolving even the
(10:48):
concept of a self or an eye, you know, at least momentarily.
I think that there's empirical evidence overthe course of the you know, centuries
that that is is a process,and not even in a mystical way,
in a very logical, rational waythat that process and it's via meditation.
I think that's a very good vesselthat it works. And in fact,
(11:13):
they're doing a lot of I'm readinga book by Sam Harris right now called
Waking Up, and they're they're doinga ton of scientific research that that processes
like meditation actually like lower activity inthe DSM, which is the part of
the brain that makes you feel crazy, that makes you feel unsettled, that
you know, causes entropy inside themind, right, um, And so
(11:37):
processes like meditation lower that. Andalso there's just empirical evidence that people who
meditate are nicer. They're just getsstarted, you feel good. I don't
know for anyone else, but forme, it's like my head is calm.
Yeah, no, no, no, say, there's so many different
ways you can meditate. For me, I do like to do the you
know, shut your eyes type deal. Of course, a lot of people
(12:00):
like can go on walks and thatcan be a meditation, or ride their
bike, and there's just different waysto go In word, yeah, and
I think it's connecting with the moment, you know, because it's always now,
you know, and it's talking tothe universe. That's something we're talking
about, Like we're always in thenow, and like there's so many times,
like especially our minds, we havelike sixty to eighty thousand thoughts today,
So you want to think about thepast or the future or what what
(12:22):
is going to happen or what mighthappen or just like go into that like
craziness. But like just being inthe now brings you to like the moment
you're in. It makes you realizelike everything's okay, Like focus on your
breath and the meditation is Yeah,absolutely, I think, And I think
there's there's certainly a serious power inthat. Yeah. Um, and I've
experienced it in my life. Butit's an experiential thing, like we have
(12:45):
to do it, you know,And I think a lot of people get
a little you know, they're like, oh, that sounds so like new
agy or whatever, and I'm likemaybe, but like do it and you'll
see. And it's like I don'tthink centuries of people who've been doing this
stuff are wrong, right, youknow. And then if you're doing something
(13:05):
you love, like when you're onstage, I bet you're so in the
now right. Yeah, absolutely,that's like, wow, that's that's I
can't even imagine being in front ofall those people. I mean, Nicole
and I went to London and wespoke in front of I don't know,
four or five hundred people, andI was terrified. We were jet lagged
like crazy, and Nicole's like canShe sat down on the chair where I
(13:30):
had to do the speech, andlet me just tell you my jumpsuit has
a big rip in the hole andmy ass so I had to keep my
jacket on. It was a disaster, but we ended up killing it.
But it would also feel like,like you know, she was talking about
highly sensitive people. I feel likethere's different people take on energy different ways.
So some people like you, Iwould assume, like thrive off of
(13:54):
a lot of people and a lotof energy of course, and like kind
of it feeds you. Other peoplelike need a it all more like you
know, space, and then likeit doesn't feed them, it more drains
them. So I feel like kindof finding what it is for you because
for you that's something that you driveoff. Yeah. I love performing,
I always have. I just genuinelyenjoy it. Were you the one when
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you were a kid like you justwant to perform for everyone. And yeah,
I mean, yeah, of courseI don't know what it is.
Maybe it's because I'm five eight,you know what I mean. So I
got a little chip, So Igot a chip on my shoulders. So
I got to prove myself, youknow what I mean. There's certainly something
there. Wait, are you performingall over the world or just in La
Yeah? All over the want toknow more about you? Yeah, all
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over the world. Well, itwas just in Austin this weekend. Austin,
Texas was good and playing in Cologneand Stuttgart this weekend amazing exciting.
Yeah, then two shows at ETCVegas next week and then I want to
come. Can I get VI ticketsand go on backstage? You know?
A hardcore is now one day,one day when I Lanella, you gotta
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come. I am definitely coming.I mean, look, yeah, but
we're I've been to the shows.They're incredible. Yeah, we're all over
Switzerland, I think. And thenyeah, right after that at Switzerland Paris,
and then I fly from Paris toVietnam to play in Hoachiman cities.
And and how is it so likewhen you go and there's are they streaming
for you. Do they want totalk to you? Oh? Yeah,
yeah, I love you. Yeah. My fans are are very hardcore.
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Yeah, very hardcore. What doesthat mean? Please not everyone? Okay,
so yeah you could. I meanjust the genre, it's yeah,
I mean do you like music?No? No, no. It's been
around since the nineties, but itwas never a huge thing, was it.
Well, in the late nineties,hardcore was very big, Like the
Dutch started it. It started inthe Netherlands. It's probably the biggest like
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young person cultural movement to ever comeout of Netherlands. So are the Dutch
really a big followers of you?Yeah? Yeah, I definitely have a
big fan base there. I'll bein Holland a bunch of times this summer.
My booking agency for your Up atleast is based out of Holland.
Um And there was a scene inthe you know States, and there still
is a scene. There's always beena scene, but but it's gone through
different sort of like phases and it'sgotten big and gotten small, got an
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underground. But in the late ninetiesit was certainly big in New York and
la um And. So now itis evolved and it's spread out into like
a myriad of subgenres between hard styles. So it's it's really just like how
fast it is. Yeah, um, so I'm I'm leaning into the really
fast paced two hundred bpm stuff.Um, and there's hard style, which
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is you know, a lot slowerone fifty to one sixty. And so
there's an whole you know, myriadof experience. You do you have somebody
that motivates you, a coach,Well no, not really. I don't
have a coach, but there arepeople who I look up to, you
know. Um well, I reallylike I listened to a lot of podcasts,
you know, and so I'm veryinterested in in people who are first
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of all intelligent, but mostly peoplewho are very into what they're doing right,
you know. Um, So itdoesn't matter what you're doing, but
if you're super passionate about it,that's the most important. And that's yeah,
exactly, And that's really I cankind of take away something from everybody.
So I've been really on like LexFriedman's podcast lately, and he has
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everybody from you know, Rogan toSam Harris to astrophysicists to Grimes. Was
just on it. Um. Yeah, and so so anybody who's really passionate
about what they're doing and and youknow oftentimes successful with that. Um So,
so I always my thing is Ialways go to the people who know
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what they're doing and have gotten results, and so then I can do what
they do. So, you know, I got really into bodybuilding, and
I was like, okay, Iwant to look you know, crazy,
So anymore? Oh yeah, yeah, very even more so? Probably,
um and so I met I hada fan who was a pro bodybuilder,
and so I just became friends withhim. And now he's so excited when
you call them, Oh you're sostoked. Probably was telling all his friends,
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you're not gonna believe who just calledit. So I became really close
with him, and so now I'vegotten, you know, to know a
lot of pro bodybuilders and like it'slike, okay, if I want to
look insane, I should probably goto the source and figure out how to
look insane. And this guy toldme what to do. And then I
did those things literally like he toldme, and I got results that I
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had not gotten. Well, you'resaying something that's really profound, Like you're
you're always on the straight and narrow. You don't seem to veer you don't.
You're not a cheater, You're notlike, you don't edge down,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it seems like when you decide something
like my son, you do it, do it? Do it? Yeah?
Yeah, and that's that's amazing.So like you didn't always do hardcore,
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right, what was like, Oh, yeah, you went to Berkeley?
Yeah I was. I've I havea crazy like evolution through music.
So how did you get to whereyou are in music? Because hardcore is
not yea at Berkeley? Yeah.No, Yeah, that's probably the biggest
like conun m. Actually, thatkind of still kind of baffles me that
I ended up here doing what I'mdoing, And if I really look closely,
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it does make sense. But yeah, you know, I started with
punk rock and then I got reallyinto playing bass, and so like,
you know, getting proficient at myinstrument became a thing. I got really
into jazz, and I got reallyinto you know, it's sort of like
into jam bands and like funk andR and B. Like I really wanted
to be good at my instrument,and so I went to the place,
like I said before, I wentto the place where people were really good
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at their instruments. So usually that'sin jazz and funk and R and B,
these guys who really know music,you know, classical music too.
And so I ended up going toBerkeley and I was gonna, you know,
do jazz and stuff like that.And I did it for a while,
and I did pretty well. AndI was, you know, doing
studio work, and that's what Idid for a long time, and I
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just got kind of sick of beinga sideman. And you know, the
EDM thing kind of blew up inthe late two thousand tens or no,
no, late two thousands, earlytwo thousand and tens. Um. I'm
so weird saying that. Yeah,you know, I don't like time flies.
I know, it really does.And so I was doing that,
and I was doing like you know, trap and future base, and I
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was kind of all over the place, you know. And and the lesson
I learned sort of was hyper focusinto one thing, right at least yields
better results, you know. Andwhile that is a that's a really difficult
concept for people, right, Yeah, you know, definitely, what's my
passion I don't know what I'm passionateabout it. Well, didn't know when
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you started you were trying to findyour way. But what happens is people
stop when they're here, they're tryingto find their way, and they get
frustrated and then they go They justcompletely forget what they're doing instead of keep
going. Well, yeah, andso it took me sort of putting stuff
down. It's one of those youknow, like paradoxes. You know,
it's like let it go and you'llget it um kind of concepts. Yeah,
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but that's true, it works.Yeah, And so I put music
go and yeah it's sign yeah exactly. And so so I let music go.
And I actually was doing a dayjob, and I actually like focused
one day job. I was selling. I was in sales. I was
a phone salesman. I saw itout of here. Yeah, I would
die if you walked into Zombia phone. Well it was on the phone to
nobody knew what I looked like.And I have I have a good white
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person voice, you have a perfectyea. So so I I actually it's
really interesting. I let it allgo and I was like I'm going to
be normal. And I did thatand long three and a half years,
Like wow, really really yeah threeand a half that probably taught you a
lot. Yeah, I know it'sno. And I was making music a
little bit, but I wasn't likefocused on it, and one thing let
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and I was doing little shows hereand there, and one thing led to
the next, and I you know, I was listening to a lot of
hardcore. I was listening to alot of fast paced music in the gym,
and just I kind of returned tomy early childhood. I returned back
to sort of the aggression and thelike hard music, which I love.
Um, and I just started makingit in a clicked It worked right place
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at the right time, So it'samazing. Do you remember the first time
you made your first hardcore song?Yeah, yeah, I do, actually,
um, and it ended up beinglike a big one. Um,
I think it was. It wasreally it's called I'm Excited and uh I
put it out and like within acouple of weeks. I think the branding
was just so different and the factthat I made a song at two hundred
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bpm at that time, it wasn'tlike weird in Europe to do that,
but in the States, within ad M, it was definitely like what
yeah, and aren't you I'm workingon a record right now? Or yeah,
yeah, new album out June June. Now, do you do a
launch party that I'm invited to youalready? Maybe I don't know party,
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I don't know, but yeah,a new record in June. We're dropping
some singles before then. I justdid one last Friday, and um,
how did it go? Good?Good, amazing? So for people that
are listening, so if they wantedto get into music and get into this
world, how would they do it? I mean, if you're gonna get
an electronic music, first of all, you probably need a computer and you
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need a daw so you know,get yourself Ableton or fl Studio or whatever
you want on Ableton. It's justwhat I've used. But they're all good.
As long as you learn your program. You can execute anything. And
you don't like you you're a professionand base you said, yeah, so
you did that? Was that ahuge translation into like the hardcore music you
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make? Now? Not really?But like I know music really well and
I know form really well. Sowhen I hear something, yeah, yeah,
I can pick things out very quickly, right, but I'm like,
okay, this is in g likeit's these notes, and I can pick
it out, and I can hearstructurally and rhythmically like what music is.
It's sort of like language. There'slike syntax to it, and so somebody
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can claim me something and I canbe like, oh, it's just this
fill at this bar and there's thisnote or this kind of sound here,
and then it goes to you know, and I could pick it out really
quickly, really yeah. Like it'slike when I'm staging at home, I
can tell like, why is thatnot touching the wall? Like yeah,
so visual and I haven't staged ina while. But then when I was
doing my house this weekend, Iwas like, no, no, no,
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it just is like, well,yeah, and I'm sure through repetition
you can see the nuances that somebodywho has not yes been in it.
Oh, I can see yes.And that's the beauty of picking one thing
and doing it well exactly because youbecome the expert exactly and you you see
these subtleties right that you're just nevergonna see if you haven't done it for
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your ten thousand hours. So Iwant to hear some crazy stories. Tell
me some crazy fans stories. Toptop Favorite. Oh oh god, there's
so many. There's so many justwild things that have happened, like there's
a girl in Germany. She gotmy name just black, asked it across
her chest on her body. Yeah. Yeah, no way, that's not
even new though, is it.No, that's not that new. But
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I see your periodically when I'm overthere, and I'm like, wow,
dedication is it? I don't knowif you're in a relationship or not.
Not to answer this, but isit hard to meet women? Uh no,
it'd be easier. I mean thatyou want to have a relationship with
Uh yeah, it is not notthat the other thing. Um, yeah,
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I mean I'm in a relationship andI have been for for a long
time, over a year now.Yeah, And and it actually is is
so that's great. So and she'sshe understands this world of yours and she's
super Yeah, she's into the mute, she's into you know, raving and
d N. Yeah. And sowe have different tastes. I mean she's
obviously gotten into you know, hardcorebecause of me, but she she has
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a quite different taste than me.Um with that, and you know,
having support in that way and liketrying to be Yeah, because it's really
easy for for people who like traveland tour to like get on the grass
is greener avoidant attachment type stuff exactly, you know, and I definitely was
there. Like I went from havinglike a kind of anxious attachment type like
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being sort of scared that people weregoing to leave me, to like being
like, well yeah, but maybe, like maybe I just haven't found the
right one. You know, theperfect girl exists, and that's such a
fallacy. The perfect person does notexist. Um. And so like with
sticking with one thing, I thinkthat that's sort of a contrary action type
thing. And I've been in thisrelationship for a while and it's it's gone
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very very well. Amazing. Congratulations. Yeah, one's the wedding. I
don't know, I don't know aboutall that, um, but you know
it's it's good and I'm happy thatmakes you. It helps because besides work,
we need to have our own personallife, you know, and that's
when when we cross and we onlydo one thing and we don't have that,
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that's when things start to happen aswell. So it's really great that
you've mastered that. That's amazing.Well, you know everything, everything,
but you're trying, Um, what'sthe next thing for you? Uh,
Well, go to Germany. Twobig shows in Germany playing this legendary club
called Boat's House, which is absolutelycrazy. Uh. And then e DC
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is always a big time, youknow. Yeah, DC is a big
year, a big thing. Everysingle year. I always train really hard
and like diet and get as inbest shape as I possibly can. I
sort of treat it like a bodybuildingcompetition. So some of my my bodybuilding
friends are actually competing, you know, They're like going to get on the
stage and do that whole thing,and so I don't. I don't want
to do that. But we alltrain together, and we all are dieting
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together and getting as absolutely shredded aswe can to motivate each other. So
we do a big meat and greet, we do merch you know. And
then it's and then it's Europe thissummer um doing a bunch of big festivals
there before I come back. Yeah. Yeah, touring all fall. Like
I was just on tour and it'sover now technically for January like early January
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to now. Wow wow that's yeah. So how do you keep yourself?
You know? Like it weird off? Yeah, it was weird. I
had a weekend off last weekend andit was like so weird. But it
was really nice. I didn't doanything but just like read and work out
and eat good food and that's right. Um, yeah, it was very
very nice. Uh. I comeback during the week and I immediately try
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to get back on the grind,you know. So if I have to,
like if I have to maybe stayup a little bit not nap to
like feel really tired and wake upat nine the next day or eight thirty,
you know, to get back onthe thing after I'm jet lagged,
I'll do that. Um. Andand really it's like sleep right, you
know. But I don't party.So people it was like, oh,
you must be so tired all thetime. And I'm like, you know
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at all anymore? But how doyou and you know party, I don't
get drugs. Yeah you're not.Yeah, you're you're going all over the
world. So do you zoom meetingsfor your program or do you go in
person in other states countries? WouldI treat my recovery like it's sort of
like a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I've got eight years
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over eight years now. Yeah,And so it's like kind of like the
loose jacket analogy. I don't knowif you've heard that where you know you
just kind of you put on thejacket every morning. And for me,
it's so not about the quantity.It's really about the quality. And I
sort of treat it like a howdo I describe this, like sort of
like a NASCAR pit stop that it'slike I have my team, right,
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and like those guys do they haveto pull off the track. If they
don't pull off the track, thewheels like explode and die. You know,
Um, you have to come offthe track. And the best guy
has the best team, and sothey you know, did you put the
new wheels on? And he's backout there. And so I treat my
recovery like that. I have mythings that I go back to and I
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get what I need to so Ican go back out on the track,
right, you know, um,and I've had the I mean, if
we are like talking about you knowthat, which it's sort of like breaking
the tradition, right, we're notreally supposed to talk about it, aren't
we publicly? Do you guys?You guys you know program you can you
don't have talking Yeah, yeah,no, no, no, it's cool.
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I don't mind talking about it.I always can talk about it,
but that you don't have to.But I'm saying, you know, a
lot of celebrities are sober. Alot of them have come on here,
and it's like everyone has a differentprogram. There's all kinds of different program
Yeah, like my hairdresser does someHindu program I've never even heard of.
But every you know, it's reallyabout like what about like the tool of
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ourself? Yeah? Do you dothat? Like you know, I mean,
because you're really in the thick ofit, so um and you're right,
you know that now about the racecar is freaking amazing you. So
what you're saying is you have amazingpeople around you that you work with,
and that that's actually really important listeners, because no matter what your issue is,
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no matter what you're doing, ifyou have an amazing group of people,
which I do, thank God,that keep you, you know,
straight and grounded and grateful and youknow, really grateful, then you'll want
to make yourself a better person overit is. Yeah, Yeah, I
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mean there's you know, obviously there'syou know, I went I went to
a place and there was people therewho told me what to do, and
I did. I did those thingsthat those people told me to do,
and now I get to be oneof those people that offers that guidance to
newer guy that's actually been the mostrewarding. Well that's that's with anything like
you're doing. So yeah, youknow, yeah, there's so many different
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um avenues hardcore right, yes,every hard cars, you're everything for everything
exactly why not? You know yougot to do things with intent? Yeah,
everything with intent? So what madeyou decide to come on the power
of way? Not to put youon the spot or anything. I love
y'all, y'all are y'all are cool, y'all are my you know, my
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faves um, and yeah, it'sjust really cool Nicole. It is really
cool to see you now, youknow. Yeah you saw me when I
was like down and back. Yeah, I remember you, you know,
getting coming in yeah. Um,and like to see that now that's what's
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cool, you know, And that'sreally cool. I'm gonna cry. Oh
no. But you had a hugelike a huge part and just like you
know how we talk about, Imean, just like having some like different
people you look up to in thatworld of sobriety, just to see like
what it looks like and how youcan actually succeed and do things you love
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and still live your life and havefun and be sober and you know you've
showed me that in the beginning andthat was great, So thank you,
thank you any home with my homework, so that that was very home.
Yes, So we always hear abouthow my philosophy paper we wrote. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, it's so interesting. It's so funny looking back on
that because yeah, I really did, I really and why I hate school,
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Oh, because you've been everything You'reinteresting in the podcast just now with
like the ego and all that,Like my brain was like that's from the
paper we wrote. Yeah, itwas just super interesting. And those concepts
actually that were discussed in that paperwe wrote have like appeared over and over
and over again in the like philosophyand psychology that I've studied. Yeah,
I'm a huge reader. I likereally really really love like the mind and
(33:44):
consciousness and like learning. I'm justreally obsessed with learning that. Yeah.
Um, and it's interesting now howmuch it's come out in my like recovery
stuff, Like when I'm speaking aboutrecovery to people, Um, that's easier,
right, yeah, And it's andit's listen, I get a lot
of different types of guys, youknow, and a lot of different types
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of people who need to get soberright, you know, And so I
think for me, being as wellequipped with all of the different types of
philosophy and psychology gives me a bettershot at being able to, like,
you know, speak to people andto connect with them, especially if they're
really hardheaded or maybe spiritual concepts area little tough for them, yeah,
(34:31):
or their egos involved. Yeah,or the egos involved. That's really a
tough one. Yeah. Yeah.And so it's been cool. It's been
cool too. I've been on likea little bit of a quest to sort
of like rationally prove spirituality. Youknow. Well, I think it's fucking
amazing that you're like this badass guy. No, I'm not joking. I
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remember every side of the Vegas andshe brought you to the table and I
was like, oh my god,what is my What did I do?
I grilled you and you were sosmart, you were on top of your
game, you were full of class, and I thought, wow, that's
really really amazing. But now youlike empower so many people. I mean,
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you should be so freaking proud ofyourself. Honestly, be proud of
yourself, because I'm proud of you, and like we talk about you were
like, wow, look at him. He's going and he's not even going
and doing what he's passionate about,but he is making a difference in this
world for people out there are listeners, they're different. They don't want to
do the mainstream, they don't wantto do pop or whatever else. They
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want to do maybe what you're doing, and like you're giving them a platform
to say, fuck, yeah Ican do this. Yeah absolutely, And
you know, I think the hugething also is like just being who you
are, you know, like tonot afraid to like just be who you
are and like a lot of peopleyou know, struggle with that and like
finding their identity and you're so openwith that, and I think that's huge
as well. Yeah, you knowthis, the self is a garden,
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you know. I think that whetheror not the self is real as a
different story that I don't want totalk about right now, but but nonetheless
we are we are. Certainly thereis certainly a sam inside my head and
like there is a very I thinkthere's really something to like building yourself up
as a garden, you know,and it's like what are you planting in
there? And how can you makeyourself the best version simply put to that
(36:27):
youth important. You got to doall of it. Yeah, at least
for me, I want to bethe like most vibrant I can possibly be.
Right, you know, So ifyou had any words for our listeners,
what would they be? M Liveyour truth and be yourself, you
(36:51):
know, and don't be afraid todo what you want and pick something for
the love of God, something Stopyou are listening to Little Texas is wise,
I mean unbelievable. You are suchan incredible soul. Thank you.
Your passion is not going to hityou over the head one day. That
(37:14):
is such a fallacy. God,I'm gonna work for it, right,
I'll just know. I'll just knowone day I'll know what I want to
do. No, you won't ryand figure you won't when you're in it.
You do, like Nicole, likework your fucking asshof Even I never
said, oh, you're gonna comework here. She wanted to come work
(37:35):
here and then she's kicked at No, That's why. That's what I was
gonna say too. That's why Ilike y'all because you'll work hard. Y'all
are y'all are your girl bosses?Yes, yeah, girl bosses. You
guys are girl bosses. Yeah,and she's really kicked as. I mean,
you brought up that fact of whenyou know you first met her,
and like, Nicole has changed somuch and she has you know, I
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remember like her talking about you,but she creates. She met certain people
that has really changed her way ofthinking and changed her because growing up in
Calabasas, it was very um whatdo you want to say, like like
closed off and so when she openedthis world, it was like wow.
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And sometimes you know, being youknow, having kids, and you would
think, oh, I want toprotect him, want to protect him.
I don't think that's the way becausewhen you open the world, there's so
many great people, there's so manydifferent countries, there's so much out there
in this life. And it's likethat's what's gonna teach us. It's about
the world, not just about oneplace or one thing. And just being
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open minded. I feel like that'ssomething that I learned, and like just
being open minded to learning about newthings and just being open to anyone.
Like in the world, like yousaid, you can take anything from anyone,
Like you don't have to necessarily belike everything said is right but like
like in our podcast today, I'msure you don't agree with some things.
You agree with a lot of thingsor whatever it is, But there's something
(39:04):
if you focus on the positivity,there's something you could take from everyone live
above the line. Yeah, yeah, you know. It's about differentiation.
You have to differ. You gotto make yourself more complex, right right,
you know, and the way todo that is through what you said,
experiences, right, going out andtrying new things, going out and
seeing and going out and soaking itall in and then deciding what you think
(39:28):
is right and wrong or good andbad. Yeah, and you take you
probably take really good things from otherpeople as well. Oh, absolutely all
the time, always learning. Yeah, And it's funny because you know,
people always say you're such a bigpersonality, no one can ever forget you,
But I say that about you.I never forgot little texting it's sam
y. Yeah. No, we'reso grateful you came on and it's so
(39:52):
good to see you like killing itand sure you invite us to back.
Yeah, next time area from me, though, next time I'm in LA,
which needs to be out of thecrash. Yeah, we'll do it
through so we win to your nextshow, and l I do you know
yet? I just did the Observatorylike two weeks ago. Yeah, sold
it out with big deal. It'sgood for me, big step in my
(40:14):
career and huge. How does thatfeel? It was really cool because how
many people wow? And it's ahard ticket room, so there's like you
know, exchange and Academy or softwhere like you sell most of the tickets.
It's going to sell out because it'skind of bottle service and people just
show up. Observatory is like straightup twelve hundred tickets there you go sell
(40:35):
them or don't um And so wedid, and so now we're, you
know, working on towards the nextthing. I think Palladium is like my
next big goal. But that's ahuge jump from where I'm at right now.
So it's three thousand plus tickets,So you can do it? What
do you mean? You're doing itfor sure? And I'm going to be
on the sidelines in my private pad. But next time if I do.
There might be something soon in LAwe don't know yet, but next time
(40:55):
I'll definitely invite it. And ohmy god, great, I'm excited for
you to go to Europe. That'smy happy place me too. Yeah,
it's the best. I'm gonna havethe best time. Oh yeah, So
how do we How do listeners getlook at you? Find you get a
hold of you pretty much at LittleTexas everywhere, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok,
Little Texas Hardcore, you'll find me, um and Spotify likewise a little.
(41:19):
And if people have questions for you, are you open to talking to
them? Yeah? Absolutely, Imean it's pretty hard these days with my
messages being so flooded, I'm sure, um, but I'm always like responding
in comments and stuff. So ifyou comment or if you tweet at me
Twitter, actually, now, ifyou mentioned me is actually a pretty good
way to like communicate with me orlike in the comments of my posts.
It's just really hard to manage mydirect messages, which I used to be
(41:42):
able to but everyone, but yeah, now I can't. I can't anymore.
It's just too Wow. But that'sincredible. Yeah, it's good to
be good problem to have. Yeah, I try. I try to get
as much as I can, butit's you know, yeah, stuff,
that's incredible. Well, how canpeople buy tickets to your next show?
Uh? There really isn't anything bookedtoo much, but you can always go
(42:04):
on my you know, on mypages, and there's like a link to
all the stuff, so new singles, you know, the link tree or
whatever's got the new singles. Youknow, it's got everything. And if
you follow me on the socials youwill certainly see where I'm at. I'm
posting constant content, constantly. Andthen when does your album come out?
It's sometime in June, Yes,in June. You gotta stay tuned.
Yeah, Dorian Electro Roman too.I'm excited for you, very excited.
(42:27):
It's so cool. Thank you somuch, No, thank you for having
this. This was amazing a greatway to start my day. Yeah.
Yeah, great way to start myday. Yes, I thank you,
Thank you so much. Cool
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