February 10, 2025 • 38 mins
Layne Riggs is back with Front Row Motorsports in the Craftsman Truck Series, and we check in with the sophomore driver before he heads to Daytona. Riggs also discusses recovering from offseason shoulder surgery and how it felt during the Rockingham test last month; the shoulder making him go viral after winning at Milwaukee; what it’s like competing in a NASCAR national series for the first time; the adjustment to racing wide open; going through the learning pains of a rookie season; the biggest thing about having one season under his belt; where he’s most looking forward to returning; learning to race inches from the wall; the physical exhaustion of racing; the overall feeling entering a new season; expectations versus reality of being a driver; leaning on other drivers for guidance; not having to balance school anymore; having NASCAR’s John Patalak as a professor; being interested in the safety side of the sport; being hands-on with his truck; the finals days of the offseason.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hey, everyone, welcome to the Racing Writers Podcast. I'm your
host Kelly crandall our guest today is Lane Riggs of
front Row Motorsports. Lane was the twenty twenty four Rookie
of the Year in the Craftsman Truck Series and he's
coming back for a sophomore season and at number thirty
eight Ford. We're gonna catch up with Lane as these
are the final days of the off season and he
gets ready for that new year. Lane heads to Daytona excited, ready,
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feels like he knows what's going on after putting in
a year under his belt with that team. Now he's
ready to use everything he's learned last year to be
even better in twenty twenty five. So we catch up
with Lane on how his off season went, which included
shoulder surgery. We're gonna talk about the viral moment from
his Milwaukee win where that shoulder became a hot topic
of conversation, and then just talk about everything that he
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learned last year and what it's like to adjust to
racing in a NASCAR National Series. So great conversation with Lane.
I hope you enjoy it. Let's get to it. Is
Lane Rings on the Racing Writers Podcast, Lane Rigs is
here and Lane. First off, I think we all expected it.
(01:13):
I know you were working on it, but it is
official You're going to be back with Front Row Motorsports
this year. I'm sure that's probably no pun intended, a
weight off your shoulders. So as we kick things off,
let's start with just a broad question. How are you
feeling as you get ready for a second season now
in the truck Series.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I'm good. I feel really confident. I actually know what
I'm getting myself into this time. Last time was kind
of a all right, just here you go thirty to
the wolves, see what happens. You know, I learned a lot,
had to really soak everything up really quick. But I
had good teammates around me and good mentors and people
that wanted to see me succeed that tried to help
me a lot. So I appreciate all them. But physically
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I feel really good. I went and got surgery done
on it, fixed it up after Phoenix last year. It
was a pretty rough re cover those first couple of weeks.
I mean I pretty much couldn't move at all. It
was pretty bad. So after that started going to Pete
physical therapy and really got where I'm better, way better
now than I was before the surgery, and I'm getting
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close to almost as good as my left one. So yeah,
I feel confident. You know. We had the Rockingham test
other week last week. I really enjoyed going and testing.
That was my first ever time going to like a
day test where we're not actually racing that day or
the next day, and so I got a lot of
seat time, got to get back comfortable, get your confidence
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back up a little bit. You know, always when you have,
you know, two three months out of a out of
a race car, you always kind of question yourself. And
I know everybody does this, but they always like question
yourself and you're like, h you know, am I gonna
be okay when I start? Like So, it was good
to have like a test session to kind of warm
back up versus just throwing you in the packet Daytona
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and saying I hope you're ready. So yeah, I was
glad that we did that. We showed a lot of
speed and it's promising, but overall, I'm I'm just ready
to get back in the seat.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
It's been too well the test too, I'm glad you
brought that up. Because as you were talking about your shoulder,
was it nice to just be able to get back
in the truck and feel how the shoulder was gonna
feel right instead of, as you said, just not only
going to Daytona and jumping into the season, but to
be able to go out test that goes a long
way for the team. But you personally, were you interested
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to see how you would feel with the shoulder?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I was. I was a little worried about like all
the load and pressure on it, not really like snapping
or something happening or dislocating it again or something, but
just the like pain of it, like because I know
in you know, like I'm sleeping in the bed and
sometimes I'll roll over on that side and like wake
up in the middle of the night on the side
and I'm kind of like, that's a little sore still.
So I was just curious how all that load and
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g forces was gonna affect it. But it was no problem,
and if it was, I'm sure adrenale would take over anyway.
But uh, Rockingham with the new pavement was maximizing the
chances of anything happening because it was so fast, so
much load. Like I've never been into Dover before, but
that's got to be what Dover feels like because we
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were hauling the mail, so it was it was a
lot of fun. And yeah, like I said, we were
really fast. Everybody was fast. The track was just stupid fast.
So if it didn't hurt there, I don't think it's
going to hurt anywhere.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well that's the good news, right, And I had seen
some of the feedback where everybody said that it seemed
like during that test you all were hauling the mail.
So it's going to be interesting when race weekend comes
around on the topic of the shoulder, because I did
want to ask this because you did get it taken
care of Dora in the off season, and I do
want to go back to Milwaukee here in a minute,
but remind folks, Lane, let's back up and just explain
for folks who don't know or may have forgotten what
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the issue was, because it was not like this was
something that just came up at Milwaukee. You had been
dealing with this, I believe I have.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Milwaukee was actually the tenth time I've dislocated my right shoulder,
So once you get past about three, it happens a
lot more frequently, so it all started. I think it
was twenty seventeen or eighteen with a motocross injury where
I actually broke my collar bone and dislocated my shoulder
in a wreck. So got the shoulder back in place,
you know, fixed my collar bone, that was the main issue.
(05:08):
And then like a year later, just doing something mindlessly
in the shop, you know, pulling a wrench hard, all
of a sudden it came out again, and then again,
and then it frequently came out more often than not.
So yeah, I wasn't mean too mindful of it at Milwaukee,
and happened to be on national television when it happened
that time, So that was my light in my head
that said it's time to get this thing fixed.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Did you realize, as you said, since it was on
national television, did you realize it kind of went viral
in a sense, the whole celebration part of it, because
there was folks who were saying, look, he's so excited,
and then there was others who were like, wait a bute, no,
he has a serious problem. But it definitely blew up
on social one way or another.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Did you realize that I did? People were made me
well aware of it. When it was all over with
my media team and PR people were really happy when
they saw a TMZ article, USA to Day article, all
the big news people and it said NASCAR driver dislocate
shoulders celebrating. It's like they didn't say Truck series driver,
they didn't say you know anything. They were just like
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NASCAR driver. So it was all in general, so a
little bit of press for everybody, But like I said,
after number ten, it really didn't affect me much more.
I was pretty much beaten up as it was, so
it was worth it in the end.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
You also mentioned there as we shift and jump into racing,
about how last year kind of thrown to the wolves, right,
having that rookie season, going out jumping the deep end,
whatever analogy you want to use. But I think it's
funny because when you say that, it's something to where
I think about how that really is true, right? I Mean,
I feel like drivers here all the time, what a
step it's going to be going into one of the
NASCAR National Series. But to use an expression like being
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thrown to the wolves, just kind of recap and explain
what that experience is like when you're going into the
truck Series for the first time, And I guess another
expression would be what drinking from a fire hose? Right,
There's so many things that you can explain, but what
is it like to go through that lane?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Well, I mean, I've done some of the part time stuff.
I got to run a couple of part time truck races,
and I didn't run my first mile and a half
rais or big track race until twenty twenty three at
the end of the year, when I got those couple
starts at Collegue Racing in the Inxfinity car. They needed
a driver, so I got lucky enough to do those races,
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and all of a sudden, a couple months later, I'm
signed up for all of them. So just going to
the Vegas is and the Kansas and Charlotte's, all the
big tracks where it's all about clean air, dirty air,
drafting down the straightaways, feeling your tire being on the edge,
you know just how big the track is, how much
speed you're carring. It's just I wasn't used to that stuff,
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you know. I did it a couple of times, dabbled
in it, and wasn't really that great at it. But
then all of a sudden, we gotta go to these
tracks where we're going to you know, going in turn one,
go one hundred and eighty five hundred and ninety mile
an hour. I'm used as the short tracks where I
may get to one ten and you got to use
a lot of break where these it's like just hold
it wide open all the way through it'll stick. So
it's just a lot of things that I wasn't I'm
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not going to say I wasn't ready for, but it's
a big change. And no matter what, when you go
from a short track, local grassroots level, when you jump
to a national series and you have to go to
all these big tracks and will not have to you
get to go to all these big tracks, it's a
big step for anybody that does it. So yeah, that
step from grassroots to national series, that's the biggest step
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I'm ever going to take in motorsports. From right where
we're at now, the cups a whole lot easier than
what I just did. So yeah, So it was a
rocky start, said in and we struggled at the beginning.
My crew chief, Delan Capello, he was new, I was new.
We were both just learning everything together. He was learning
how to be a crew chief. I was learned how
to be a driver, and you know, we stumped our
toes and we got better and it was good to
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see just the gradual progression through the year and all
of a sudden we hit our peak and we were
winning races. So it's awesome how fast that all happened.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
When you talk about going into the series and having
to be wide open, because the truck series, right, it's
a lot about momentum, it's a lot about the draft,
and yeah, you are going into these corners sometimes wide open.
How much of a mental adjustment was that for you?
You kind of were touching on it there of what
you had come from and what you were doing. But
the fact that you know, you have to go into
these races that you've never run before, and this is
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all new for you, and you have to go to
these tracks and go wide open into a corner, what
was that like those first maybe couple races haven't to
get used to.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
That stressful, So, you know what, it's stressful, But at
the same time, you know, I had enough confidence in
myself that I knew if you know, got a little
loose or slipped, that I had the confidence that I
could catch it. It did bite me one time. But
besides the point, the biggest and craziest part is qualifying.
So you know, we go out to practice, which we
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only get fifteen minutes all these tracks. I'm going out
just trying to figure out what the place even looks like,
and you only get fifteen minutes to figure out how
to go fast on it as well. But you, like,
I give an example like Charlotte. You know, we go
in to the corners and race trim, you let out
of the gas for a couple seconds, roll back to it,
you're sliding around, and then you know, you get done
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with your long run. You start a slow going down.
We come in the pits and five minutes later you're
startup for qualifying and they say, all right, well, according
to the sim and the data, with new tires and
tape and air pressures up, you should be able to
hold it wide open all around the track. And I'm
like what, because what I just felt? Can't do that?
And you go out there and you got one lap
to do it. You just got to trust what they say,
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and that's really really hard to do. You know, we
don't get mock qualifying runs. We don't get to practice
some of that you go out there and just give
it all you got. So it's really been an adjustment
just to trust yourself and trust what your team says,
and trust the data and go do it.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
The learning pains and growing pains that you were talking about,
we always hear that with a rookie season, right and
especially as you mentioned, another part of that was your
crew chief was also new, so he's trying to find
his footing. So what was the biggest thing or that
you guys went through or what was the biggest part
of trying to go through those learning pains and trying
to gel together when you have a season where as
you said, you get off to a rocky start, but
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obviously it ended very well that first part of the season.
What was just the biggest things you guys are trying
to get over to get over those growing pains.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I think you know me knowing what I need to
go fast, just knowing the balance, knowing how the tires
progressed or run, just trying to understand the air better,
things like that. But he can't really teach me. I
just kind of got to go on my own. At
the same time, he's just trying to guesstimate what's right
based off past notes, and then a pass driver like
Zane Smith using his notes versus me, Well, I got
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a lot of different driving style than he did, and
it just takes time to understand that. And that's veteran drivers,
a veteran crew chie's trying to learn each other and
at the same time, we're just figuring out how to
tackle that in the first place. And then I think,
you know, internally within our team, you know, we had
some struggles in the shop, and he's also not just
trying to be a crew chief on race weekends, but
trying to be a leader and manage people at the
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shop during the week. And you know, a lot of
that was just trying to teach guys on the team
what they need to do and stuff like this. But
you know, I learned that later on that a lot
of his time was having to be spent managing and
doing stuff himself or going back over things just to
make sure everything's right. And it took a lot of
time away from being on the sim and you know,
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looking at setup stuff, and he couldn't focus as much
on the important stuff of making raw speed when you
just have to make sure the truck's at the racetrack
and in the condition that's supposed to be. So now
we got a team that's fully functional. And you say
he didn't show up to the shop all week, they'd
have the job done. So it just took a little
bit of time for everybody. And you know, we were
a young team as well. Everybody that was on the
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team was pretty new. I mean, we were all a
bunch of rookies. So once everybody got their footing, everybody
on the team, not just the driver and crew chief,
then things started building.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So it sounds like it's better now in that regard.
As you said, Dylan maybe doesn't have to be micromanaging
so much. Right, It sounds like everybody has their place now,
so that should lessen what he has to do and
maybe you guys can focus more on just the racing
part of it. Exactly what does having a year under
your belt now, Lane, what does that do? What's going
to be the biggest thing going into year two?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, I mean, I hopefully it's a typical star athlete
sophomore season. You know, you come out at the beginning
and everything's a little rocky, and you get your footing,
and then the next year you come out with a bang,
and I think anything less of being in the final
four and having a shot in a championship is going
to be a little bit of a disappointment. You know.
Even last year everybody asked, you know, what's your goals?
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And my goal still is to go win a championship.
That's never going to change. But now I think this year,
I know what it takes, I know what we got
and I think it's one hundred percent feasible and it
should happen. So you have confidence is high, standards are high,
and that's what you got to have to go fast.
But yeah, I mean, I'm just excited to be able
to go back to some of these tracks, go back
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to the bigger tracks that I went to that I
was thrown, you know, to the wolves at so many
places last year. I remember getting out debriefing and I said,
if I knew what I knew about this race track
and about how to handle it at the at the
end of the race, if I knew that at the beginning,
we would have been so much better. I mean, three
quarters of the tracks we went to was like that.
So if I can just take that, if I keep
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that same knowledge and apply it to this year to practice, qualifying,
and even the beginning of the race, it's going to
be a lot easier. So I'm just glad that we're
going to go back and tackle kind of the same
tracks and kind of just getting used to everything. I
finally feel comfortable and know what I need.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
That was going to be my next question. Is there
one place in particular, or maybe a couple that you're
really excited to get back to.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah. I really enjoyed racing at Darlington and Homestead Miami.
I know they're kind of sibling tracks in the way
that they have low grip, same kind of shape configuration
and all, but you know, running up against the wall,
they were a lot of fun. I really enjoyed those tracks.
There's a lot of driver aspect behind it and having
to be really gentle on the throttle. Even though you're
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going that fast, you still had to be gentle. And
the same time, I am looking forward to Daytona Talabega
again and the speedways, I mean days one of this year.
Only last year I only got six laps before we
got wrecked out and Tyla Daga we made it to
the start of the final stage and we got wrecked out.
My goal there is just to finish. I know if
we finish, it'll be a good finish because there's not
a whole lot of people left at the end of
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the race. So yeah, I thought the speedway racing was fun.
It's a lot different. It's it's just a totally different
category the way that you race. So I am excited
to get there and try to tackle out. And also
the road courses, like we only had one last year
and that was at CODA. I have no clue what
I'm doing on road courses. I've never road course raced
in my life, never done anything about The only thing
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I did was the simulator for CODA at the Ford
simulator and we went and I qualified eighth and I
was like, wow, that's not bad and started the race
and everybody blew through turn one. I came out of
turn two and third and I was like, okay, we're
running top three in a road course race. Still don't
know what I'm doing. And then Ross Chastain was running
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second in front of me, and I passed him through
the esses and I was like, okay, well, if I
just passed Ross, he's you know, one cut races at
the road courses, I must not be too bad, and
then we had an electrical problem a couple laps later
that took us out of the race run a second.
So I know that Front Roads trucks are really good
on road courses. They got a good package, and I'm
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just excited to go to some new ones and learn
some more. Lime Rock's going to be new for a
lot of people, and I think that that's a pretty
fun track from what I've seen a lot of elevation
change going to the roval right here in our backyard.
I know that's going to be kind of a crapshoot
with that new hairpin corner, but I'm looking forward to it.
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And then Walkins Glenn's always just a classic road course,
so yeah, I'm excited for some change.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
We talked earlier about where you came from, right the
short tracks and a lot of on and off the
throttle running around the bottom shortest distance, and then you
mentioned they're about excited to go back to Darlington and
running against the wall. How quickly Lane did you you
adapt to doing something like that because it's different, as
we said, or where you came from, so being able
to run against the wall, which is such a skill
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that we see in this sport with all of you drivers,
did you feel like you adapted quickly enough and you're
ready to try to keep applying more of that. You
feel like you're getting better at that style of racing now.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, for sure, I think that it just kind of
goes hand in hand. I mean, we ran the wall
at a lot of tracks this year. I mean I
look at Kansas as one of them. A mom and
a half we ran the wall all the way around
the track was the best way. So yeah, I thought
it was just fun. It's nerve wracking, and you you know,
it's more of a finesse thing than anything, And I
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think that's really fun versus just barreling it off in
there and running on the bottom. I think it's really
fun to just kind of tiptoe up at the wall
and really just kind of dance with it. It feels like
a dance. We're down low, you feel like you're you're
driving the truck up top, you're just kind of dancing
with the truck. So yeah, I really enjoyed that, and
I feel like that I adapted pretty quickly. I've seen
enough of it and studied it enough that it came
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pretty naturally to me and something to a lot of
people don't realize there is the air buffer against it,
so you know, once you get close enough to the wall,
it actually creates that pocket of air and holds you
off of it. So you got to have the confidence
just to drive in there and know, Okay, if the
wall wasn't here, i'd probably slide up into it, but
since the wall effect is true, it'll hold me off
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of it, just barely, and just just having that trust
and knowing that it's going to happen every single lap.
So it's like a trust fall. A lot of these
places are like a trust fall. Talking about qualifying running
the wall all these things is like a big trust
fall when you when you fall backwards and somebody catches
you the wall or you're grippy your tires, it's it's
a big rush.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It's such a skill though, and it's so fascinating for
those of us on the outside to watch because I
feel like it takes so much talent. Even as you said,
there might be that air gap, that bubble kind of
helping you out, you still have to be perfect to
make sure that if you don't break that bubble and
catch the wall. I mean the wall it feel like
and it looks like it's going to hang on to you.
It's not so easy to get off it right if
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you do it.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, Luckily I didn't hit it much last year doing that.
I was. I was pretty modest. I was. I was
a little bit forgiving. I probably would have got gobbled
up in the in the Cup series, they would have
gone right past me. But your laser focused. I think
that's the best way I put A lot of times
I get out of the truck after races like that
and I just have a pounding headache, and you know,
like is it carbon monoxide or what is it? And
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I go get checked out and they're like, no, you're
just you're so focused and stressed. You just your brain's cooked.
And I'll go back to the hotel and fall asleep instantly.
So it's the most focused and mentally sharp you can be,
and just just staying in that realm is important.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
That applies though, I think for any racetrack, right, I
think that applies for just racing in general. I mean
I talked to William Byron yes straight for the podcast,
and he was talking about the same type of thing,
just how focused and how exhausted you are after races.
Is that something that's hard to explain or people don't
understand about Maybe what you all do about this sport
is just how mentally taxing and physically exhausting and what
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a workout it is to be behind the wheel of
a car or a truck.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, for sure, I think that. You know, it is
easy to overlook that, but you know, when there's a
lot of factors that are playing against each other, especially
during the summer, we're cooking inside the cockpit. I mean
it'll be you one hundred and twenty hundred and thirty
degrees and you got a full on suit, helmet, everything.
I mean, you're cooking in there, You're you're pretty much
in a sauna. And then at the same time, you're
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having to stay laser focused on one thing all the
way through, and you're adrenaline's pumping, your heart rates gushing
like you're just it's just everything's just flowing. And when
all that's going you really don't think about it. You
just kind of fight through it. You know. If you
start thinking about how, you know, I feel tired or
I feel like I'm this, everything just goes downhill, so
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you just got to stay in your zone. And then
when it's over and check your flags out and you
pull down pit road and kind of like, you know,
calm down a little bit. You're like, okay, now I'm tired.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's the adrenaline off.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Adrenaline wears off, and you're like, okay, I'm beat now.
You don't realize until after it's over, right, which you know,
I think it's good. Some people have that, some people don't.
I'm blessed enough that I got enough adrenaline and focus
that I can just fight through it. Don't really think
about it during the race, But when it's over with,
I feel it for sure. I think everybody does.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
So how long is the recovery period then after you know,
you get out of the truck, you're on pit road,
you're doing your obligations. How long still is the recovery
period before you kind of feel like all right, I
feel like my body, we're back to calm now, maybe
the headache goes away. How long does that take?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Typically? Usually when we get back on the plane that
night running, you're running, you're going, you're doing interviews, changing,
saying bye to the crew, getting the rental car flying
at the airport, trying to get this fast you can.
Once you finally sit down in your seat and you're like,
you usually fall asleep. So I've taken a lot of
naps on the plane home, and yeah, I've always had this,
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you know, I call it the race day hangover. It's
the day after it's like you just you feel like
you got to hangover, honestly, And you know, I think
that's part of dehydration. You know, no matter which how
much water you drink, you just went through so much,
you know, stress and sweat and everything, you just can't
really recoup. So yeah, usually the day after race, I
like to lay around and just kind of kind of
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recoop and recover. But then the day after the day
after that, I'm ready to go again.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, it makes sense. It makes sense, Lanne. When you
and I talked last year before your rookie season, you
had mentioned how one of the feelings that you had
was just relief to get the opportunity, Relief that it
had all come together and everything that you had worked
for had paid off. As we go into year two, now,
what's kind of the overall feeling now getting to go
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back and have a sophomore season.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, I mean, I'm still super thankful to even be here.
I mean, I got a lot of people that I
race within late models that I think are just as
deserving of an opportunity as I am that that never
got their shot. So yeah, I'm just thankful the people
that got me to this point even be racing at
a national level competitively at least Infinite Communications Jeff Coffee,
they were like the first sponsor that really believed in
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me and took me to the next level, that had
the means to do it and and got me to
this point. So you know, all I told him, I said,
I just want to get out here, and I know
if I get the shot to do it, I'll prove
everybody that I can do it and I deserve to
be here, and they had the faith to do it.
So yeah, I'm just still thankful still in all that
I'm even doing what I'm doing and just trying to
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make the most of it because you know, you truly
never know when it's going to be the end, and
you just got to always, you know, live day to day.
So yeah, I mean, it's it's awesome to be here.
And he said, I want to work as hard as
I can to make sure that I don't ever look
back and regret not doing something.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Did the expectation of what you thought being a full
time NASCAR driver was going to be? Like, did that
match reality as you were going through the year last
year and getting to actually be a full time NASCAR driver?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, it is. It's it's actually a lot more off
time than I had with my late model stone because
with my late model stuff, it was me and Dad
working at the shop at home and volunteer help from
you know, local people that we live with to help us,
and that was about it. So and also I was
in high school and college at the same time. You know,
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in twenty twenty two when I won the National Championship,
I was in college. We were working out of our
family shop at home. I had to commute back and
forth from Charlotte to Bahama to work on the car,
go to class, do my homework, do projects, go to
the racetrack practice. We were really really you know pulled
then through that time. That will always be the hardest
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I've ever had to work for anything in racing. And
like I said, we ended up getting the National Championship trophy,
So it was worth it. But now I can kind
of sit back and I can focus on driver stuff.
I don't have to be crew chief, car chief and
driver and have to worry about all those things. I can,
you know, go to the simulator do my part. You know,
I like to spend a lot of time in the
race shop. I'm going to head there right after this
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and spend time with everybody. I like being hands on.
But at the same time, you know, I know my
guy's got my back, and all they want for me
is to show up to the racetrack is mentally and
focus as best I can be on race days. So
it's really nice that I can kind of sit back
and do driver things.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
When it comes to doing driver things, what role, if any,
do your Cup Series teammates play. Can you lean on them?
Do you lean on them? Or are there other drivers
that you find yourself leaning on and going to for
advice or just to talk or to learn something.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah, I mean my Cup teammates this year. You know,
we're all pretty young in age and I could call
them friends. So it's you know good. If I ever
got a question, I asked them and they usually give
me a pretty good answer, you know, A person that's
really been helping me recently. It's David Reagan. He's now,
you know it works in the forward performance side and
he kind of helps all the forward drivers and especially
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the Truck series people. He's been coming to all the
simulator sessions and you know, I talk to him every
couple of days about just things I can do better.
And he's really been a good motivator and somebody to
help push me to be to better myself. So yeah,
thankful to him the time he's put in. But yeah,
I mean I feel like, you know, a lot of
the higher level guys you can kind of go ask
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for their help, especially just just being a just being
a truck driver. They don't really have to worry about them,
you know, them telling you something and you using it
against them. Yet hopefully one day I'll be able to
tell them, hey, you remember that thing you told me? Yeah,
I just did it to you. But now, everybody's been
super helpful to me, and you know, I'm very fortunate
that a lot of people want to see me succeed
and want to have a hand in it.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
And as we continue on the topic of just doing
driver things, I wanted to bring up the fact that
you don't have to focus on school anymore. You won't
have to split your attention as you were finishing your degree.
Finally graduated. First off, congratulations, I'm sure that felt good.
I saw the social media post. How Lane, do you
think that that will be different this year of not
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having again having to split your focus between those responsibilities
and then the race seeing responsibilities.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, I'm really relieved. I mean, I've never raced and
not been in school at the same time, so you know,
most of the time it was Monday through Thursday, I
was focused on schoolwork projects, and then Friday through Sunday
it was race time. Now I got the whole week,
and it's really nice. So I went, I'm doing two
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things that every driver's got to have, right. I went
and I bought a go cart to run up at
Trackhouse Motorplex, because everybody's gotta have one, right, And I'm
gonna go get me a set of golf clubs. I'm
gonna be a scratch golfer. That's the plan at least.
So you're not a real nice car driver if you
don't have golf clubs and a go cart. So I'm
getting those two things. I can officially call myself a
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real race car driver, but no, I just I get
to spend more time in the shop, spend more time
with my guys, and just kind of really have time
to do stuff and not have my brain in so
many different spaces. It was really hard with the mindset
thing of just having to switch things on and off. Okay,
it's school mode. I'm sitting here, I'm really focused on
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this problem or this paper I'm writing, and all of
a sudden I get a call from Dylan mcrewchief and
I got to turn that turn. The school went off,
turn the racing went on, and totally switched mindsets. Go
talk about racing, and then okay, I gotta switch this light,
switch back on the school stuff. When we hang up,
it's like it was always hard to kind of mesh
the two together, but now it's I always only got
one thing on my mind, so it makes it a
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lot easier for me.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I was really fascinated when I was looking around and
you and ce Charlotte had had highlighted you and some
of their their content, and particularly around your capstone project,
and then when you graduated, and I was really really
interested to learn in there that John Padillac. I did
not realize was a professor at UNC Charlotte, and we know,
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of course that he's a part of NASCAR. How cool
was that for you to kind of have those worlds collide.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, that was really cool. I was in his class,
his motorsports safety class, and we come in and he's like,
this is a helmet, this is the Hans device, and
he you know, he recognized me early on, you know,
like the first day class and he's like, you know,
pointed at me, like you know what this is? Lane.
I was like, yes, I do. A lot of people
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know in the class didn't get it, but uh, you
know I did. So I several times I stayed after
class with him and you know, we debated safety things
and talked about things that I'd like better and just
you know talked driver to personnel and you know, that
was really cool. And I always gave him crap. I
said his tests were too hard. So I ended up
getting a MS class, so I'm doing something right. But no,
(29:38):
it was cool to have like the engineering side along
with the safety, along with you know my room with
things like even you know, my reck ad Talladega last year.
It was a pretty hard lick. And then I showed
up to class on Monday after and he pulled me
aside and like, you feel okay. I was like yeah,
and I'm okay. He's like, man, I looked at all
the data for that. That was a lick. I'm glad
you're all right. So it was so weird to walk
into school and all of a sudden, somebody's talking about
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my weekend. And then when I was in his class
was right when we won Milwaukee and Bristol, And yeah,
that was really cool, you know, showing up on Monday
morning just dressed in my school stuff and I think
he even putting his presentation that day that you know, uh,
student here won a race this weekend. So that was
that was really cool to get a shout out. So yeah,
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I'm excited to work with him. And I told him,
you know, anything that he wants to do R and
D for safety, especially in the truck series, not really
getting all the gadgets, you know, mouthpieces and you know,
as much data as the cup guys have. You know,
I'd really like to be a part of developing that
to make it better. So he's all on board.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
That's awesome, And I wanted to follow up on that
by saying that it sounds like unexpectedly, you now have
a much better relationship maybe with NASCAR and that side
of things through school and you have that relationship to
where you can say I want to be as involved
or what can we learn and he's checking in on you,
whereas maybe it wouldn't have been I don't want to
say that that wouldn't have happened. Right, It's not like
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NASCAR doesn't care about the drivers. But that had to
have been unexpected for you to now have this relationship.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, it's truly odd. It's gonna be weird seeing him
at the racetrack because to me, I'm like, why's my
professor at the racetrack. But yeah, no, it's it is
cool to kind of have that in depth part of it.
So yeah, hopefully it'll turn to something one day. And
like I said, I want to be an advocate for safety.
We want to be as safe as we can. We
don't it's not like the old days. We want to
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go out there and risk our lives every time we
get in the race car. It's if it's an option
to be safer, I definitely want it to be and
it was cool to get behind the numbers and analytics
and looking at crash tests. And you know, he even
like showed Cup car crash tests and we analyzed the
data from it and understood, okay, we made this change
and we recrash tested and this was the change in data.
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You know a lot of other mean cup drivers that
are driving the cars haven't even seen that stuff, and
I have and done the calculations in math behind it.
So it was definitely a cool little dive in.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Is that part of the sport interest? Do you like
being able and are you interested in looking at the
numbers and analyzing things and kind of understanding how things
played out or what happened or what the numbers mean.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
For sure, I mean not even just in the safety stuff,
but I mean I really enjoy working on the setup
of the truck, looking at simulation. You know, time Ajeski's
also you know, an engineer and graduated with a degree
as well, and he's basically the engineer on his own truck,
and he's one hundred percent hands on with what he does.
You know, I hopefully I can get to that level
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one day because I want to be you know, if
I'm driving it, I want to know one what's up
under it, and two I want to have a hand
in trying to make it better. And I feel like
I have the best, you know, in depth mindset about
it because I'm the one only one that's feeling it
to make things better. So yeah, no, I definitely like
being hands on.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
That was another thing I was just going to ask
and you kind of answered. I was curious if you
are hands on at all with the truck, because you
do have that degree. You are. We talked about it
last year. You like to know what goes into the
truck and what goes into what you're driving. So it
sounds like when you go to the shop you do
help out a little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, for sure. I like getting hands on and anybody
in the shop that's kind of struggling, Like yesterday, you know,
I had the rum or I'm out and I was
setting up scale pads and you know, doing I'm kind
of like the gopher right now and doing the stuff
that people don't really want to do. And uh, you know,
somebody's working on something that I could easily do. I say, hey,
I'll do this job. You go do the important stuff
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to make the truck go faster. I'll do the pitidy stuff.
So yeah, and I think that's good team bonding. I
think that my team's seeing that I am hands on,
how much I care about it and how passionate I
am about it, it makes them want to work even harder.
And yeah, I mean even last night we were burning
the midnight oil trying to get our Daytona trick together
and I was there alongside helping. And you you think
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if I wasn't there, maybe they wouldn't even be there.
Who knows. So yeah, I want to push myself and
my team to be the best we can. And I
think being al it's like having a trainer or a
coach that tells you to go go run five miles.
Well say, hey, let's go run five miles, and he
goes with you. You know, that's a whole lot more
motivating to do it than somebody that just kind of
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points and tells you what to do. So yeah, I
enjoyed being in the trenches with them.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
All right, on the topic of Daytona, as we wind
down here, last thing for you, Lane, what do these
final days of the off season look like? Probably, as
you said, burning mian night oil, getting the last minute
things done that you guys can do with that truck.
But for you, is there anything else you want to
try to squeeze into these last days before we head
to Daytona?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, I mean right now, it's kind of just a
studying point. You know, we don't do sim for speedways
or Atlanta, so we've been working on a simulator at
the tracks like Vegas, Homestead, Martinsville coming up that I
feel like we could be better at. At the same time,
talking with my spotter and sitting down with Dylan and
looking at film going over you know, spotder notes, listening
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to radio, looking at the stats of how everything played out.
You know, this guy started you know, third row outside
and you know statistically it was better for him to
start on the inside. Just things like that that we
can look at and study now. So when I get
to the track, you feel like you're not questioning yourself.
You know exactly how it's going to play out, and
hopefully you can put yourself in that position to be
up front at the end. But yeah, I just just
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trying to check all the last minute boxes, make sure
that I'm ready to go, and more mentally than anything,
especially with two speedway type races, coming up at the beginning, right.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
There, right at the beginning, starting off with a lot
of chance for opportunity, but a lot of chance to
tear some stuff up to right there exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
The first I look at. The first real race is
going to be at Vegas that you can kind of
judge your performance off of. You know, Daytona. Everybody knows
that Daytona Twlladay is kind of a crapshoot at the
end of the day, a lot of luck and chance
involved in it. Of course, the good guys are usually
at the front. They position themselves well, and I want
to be better at doing that. But no matter how
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good you are, you can get taken out in the
last lap and end up being last. So yeah, just
in Atlanta, I mean I put that in the same
exact category. So yeah, I'm excited for him, but also
know that that's not really a tale of what the
year looks like for everybody. You know, if you ever
look at the points after Atlanta, it's always like really randomized,
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and you're like, why is that? And then we go
to Vegas and Homestead and Martinsville. I think it's Martinsville
or maybe Rockingham, whichever one it is the fifth race. Like,
once you get to that point, everything starts to normalize
out and you really can stack yourself up. So yeah,
I'm ready to go, but the same time, ready to
get in the real racetracks too.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
After that, completely understand that. Ready to go once again, Lane,
gonna be back for a second year in the truck Series.
So always appreciate the time. I enjoy talking. We got
to talk before your rookie season. Here we are going
in your sophomore season. Maybe we'll just continue this. We'll
make it a theme right before every season. We'll catch
up on what you got going on.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, that's right. Hopefully in a couple of years we're
talking about my Cup debut stuff. That's the plan. And yeah,
gonna keep working hard towards So yeah, I appreciate the time.
It's good. We always get in depth stuff and talk
about some good stuff. Everybody watching.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
That's right, all right, I'll mark it down Lane Cup day. Well,
we'll put well penciling.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
On the schedule.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
How about that, Lane, I appreciate. I appreciate it as always.
Good luck this season and I'll see us soon.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yep, thank you.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Thanks once again E Lane for coming on the podcast.
We had about thirty five minutes or so. Actually we
just talked until we were done talking, and I appreciate
that about Lane always making the time in front Row
Motorsports as well. Alex Minton, my appreciation for coordinating and
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Appreciate those as well. That is all I have for
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new episode of The Racing Writers Podcast.
Hey, everyone, welcome to the Racing Writers Podcast. I'm your
host Kelly crandall our guest today is Lane Riggs of
front Row Motorsports. Lane was the twenty twenty four Rookie
of the Year in the Craftsman Truck Series and he's
coming back for a sophomore season and at number thirty
eight Ford. We're gonna catch up with Lane as these
are the final days of the off season and he
gets ready for that new year. Lane heads to Daytona excited, ready,
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feels like he knows what's going on after putting in
a year under his belt with that team. Now he's
ready to use everything he's learned last year to be
even better in twenty twenty five. So we catch up
with Lane on how his off season went, which included
shoulder surgery. We're gonna talk about the viral moment from
his Milwaukee win where that shoulder became a hot topic
of conversation, and then just talk about everything that he
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learned last year and what it's like to adjust to
racing in a NASCAR National Series. So great conversation with Lane.
I hope you enjoy it. Let's get to it. Is
Lane Rings on the Racing Writers Podcast, Lane Rigs is
here and Lane. First off, I think we all expected it.
(01:13):
I know you were working on it, but it is
official You're going to be back with Front Row Motorsports
this year. I'm sure that's probably no pun intended, a
weight off your shoulders. So as we kick things off,
let's start with just a broad question. How are you
feeling as you get ready for a second season now
in the truck Series.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I'm good. I feel really confident. I actually know what
I'm getting myself into this time. Last time was kind
of a all right, just here you go thirty to
the wolves, see what happens. You know, I learned a lot,
had to really soak everything up really quick. But I
had good teammates around me and good mentors and people
that wanted to see me succeed that tried to help
me a lot. So I appreciate all them. But physically
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I feel really good. I went and got surgery done
on it, fixed it up after Phoenix last year. It
was a pretty rough re cover those first couple of weeks.
I mean I pretty much couldn't move at all. It
was pretty bad. So after that started going to Pete
physical therapy and really got where I'm better, way better
now than I was before the surgery, and I'm getting
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close to almost as good as my left one. So yeah,
I feel confident. You know. We had the Rockingham test
other week last week. I really enjoyed going and testing.
That was my first ever time going to like a
day test where we're not actually racing that day or
the next day, and so I got a lot of
seat time, got to get back comfortable, get your confidence
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back up a little bit. You know, always when you have,
you know, two three months out of a out of
a race car, you always kind of question yourself. And
I know everybody does this, but they always like question
yourself and you're like, h you know, am I gonna
be okay when I start? Like So, it was good
to have like a test session to kind of warm
back up versus just throwing you in the packet Daytona
(02:50):
and saying I hope you're ready. So yeah, I was
glad that we did that. We showed a lot of
speed and it's promising, but overall, I'm I'm just ready
to get back in the seat.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
It's been too well the test too, I'm glad you
brought that up. Because as you were talking about your shoulder,
was it nice to just be able to get back
in the truck and feel how the shoulder was gonna
feel right instead of, as you said, just not only
going to Daytona and jumping into the season, but to
be able to go out test that goes a long
way for the team. But you personally, were you interested
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to see how you would feel with the shoulder?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I was. I was a little worried about like all
the load and pressure on it, not really like snapping
or something happening or dislocating it again or something, but
just the like pain of it, like because I know
in you know, like I'm sleeping in the bed and
sometimes I'll roll over on that side and like wake
up in the middle of the night on the side
and I'm kind of like, that's a little sore still.
So I was just curious how all that load and
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g forces was gonna affect it. But it was no problem,
and if it was, I'm sure adrenale would take over anyway.
But uh, Rockingham with the new pavement was maximizing the
chances of anything happening because it was so fast, so
much load. Like I've never been into Dover before, but
that's got to be what Dover feels like because we
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were hauling the mail, so it was it was a
lot of fun. And yeah, like I said, we were
really fast. Everybody was fast. The track was just stupid fast.
So if it didn't hurt there, I don't think it's
going to hurt anywhere.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well that's the good news, right, And I had seen
some of the feedback where everybody said that it seemed
like during that test you all were hauling the mail.
So it's going to be interesting when race weekend comes
around on the topic of the shoulder, because I did
want to ask this because you did get it taken
care of Dora in the off season, and I do
want to go back to Milwaukee here in a minute,
but remind folks, Lane, let's back up and just explain
for folks who don't know or may have forgotten what
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the issue was, because it was not like this was
something that just came up at Milwaukee. You had been
dealing with this, I believe I have.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Milwaukee was actually the tenth time I've dislocated my right shoulder,
So once you get past about three, it happens a
lot more frequently, so it all started. I think it
was twenty seventeen or eighteen with a motocross injury where
I actually broke my collar bone and dislocated my shoulder
in a wreck. So got the shoulder back in place,
you know, fixed my collar bone, that was the main issue.
(05:08):
And then like a year later, just doing something mindlessly
in the shop, you know, pulling a wrench hard, all
of a sudden it came out again, and then again,
and then it frequently came out more often than not.
So yeah, I wasn't mean too mindful of it at Milwaukee,
and happened to be on national television when it happened
that time, So that was my light in my head
that said it's time to get this thing fixed.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Did you realize, as you said, since it was on
national television, did you realize it kind of went viral
in a sense, the whole celebration part of it, because
there was folks who were saying, look, he's so excited,
and then there was others who were like, wait a bute, no,
he has a serious problem. But it definitely blew up
on social one way or another.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Did you realize that I did? People were made me
well aware of it. When it was all over with
my media team and PR people were really happy when
they saw a TMZ article, USA to Day article, all
the big news people and it said NASCAR driver dislocate
shoulders celebrating. It's like they didn't say Truck series driver,
they didn't say you know anything. They were just like
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NASCAR driver. So it was all in general, so a
little bit of press for everybody, But like I said,
after number ten, it really didn't affect me much more.
I was pretty much beaten up as it was, so
it was worth it in the end.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
You also mentioned there as we shift and jump into racing,
about how last year kind of thrown to the wolves, right,
having that rookie season, going out jumping the deep end,
whatever analogy you want to use. But I think it's
funny because when you say that, it's something to where
I think about how that really is true, right? I Mean,
I feel like drivers here all the time, what a
step it's going to be going into one of the
NASCAR National Series. But to use an expression like being
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thrown to the wolves, just kind of recap and explain
what that experience is like when you're going into the
truck Series for the first time, And I guess another
expression would be what drinking from a fire hose? Right,
There's so many things that you can explain, but what
is it like to go through that lane?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Well, I mean, I've done some of the part time stuff.
I got to run a couple of part time truck races,
and I didn't run my first mile and a half
rais or big track race until twenty twenty three at
the end of the year, when I got those couple
starts at Collegue Racing in the Inxfinity car. They needed
a driver, so I got lucky enough to do those races,
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and all of a sudden, a couple months later, I'm
signed up for all of them. So just going to
the Vegas is and the Kansas and Charlotte's, all the
big tracks where it's all about clean air, dirty air,
drafting down the straightaways, feeling your tire being on the edge,
you know just how big the track is, how much
speed you're carring. It's just I wasn't used to that stuff,
(07:38):
you know. I did it a couple of times, dabbled
in it, and wasn't really that great at it. But
then all of a sudden, we gotta go to these
tracks where we're going to you know, going in turn one,
go one hundred and eighty five hundred and ninety mile
an hour. I'm used as the short tracks where I
may get to one ten and you got to use
a lot of break where these it's like just hold
it wide open all the way through it'll stick. So
it's just a lot of things that I wasn't I'm
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not going to say I wasn't ready for, but it's
a big change. And no matter what, when you go
from a short track, local grassroots level, when you jump
to a national series and you have to go to
all these big tracks and will not have to you
get to go to all these big tracks, it's a
big step for anybody that does it. So yeah, that
step from grassroots to national series, that's the biggest step
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I'm ever going to take in motorsports. From right where
we're at now, the cups a whole lot easier than
what I just did. So yeah, So it was a
rocky start, said in and we struggled at the beginning.
My crew chief, Delan Capello, he was new, I was new.
We were both just learning everything together. He was learning
how to be a crew chief. I was learned how
to be a driver, and you know, we stumped our
toes and we got better and it was good to
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see just the gradual progression through the year and all
of a sudden we hit our peak and we were
winning races. So it's awesome how fast that all happened.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
When you talk about going into the series and having
to be wide open, because the truck series, right, it's
a lot about momentum, it's a lot about the draft,
and yeah, you are going into these corners sometimes wide open.
How much of a mental adjustment was that for you?
You kind of were touching on it there of what
you had come from and what you were doing. But
the fact that you know, you have to go into
these races that you've never run before, and this is
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all new for you, and you have to go to
these tracks and go wide open into a corner, what
was that like those first maybe couple races haven't to
get used to.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
That stressful, So, you know what, it's stressful, But at
the same time, you know, I had enough confidence in
myself that I knew if you know, got a little
loose or slipped, that I had the confidence that I
could catch it. It did bite me one time. But
besides the point, the biggest and craziest part is qualifying.
So you know, we go out to practice, which we
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only get fifteen minutes all these tracks. I'm going out
just trying to figure out what the place even looks like,
and you only get fifteen minutes to figure out how
to go fast on it as well. But you, like,
I give an example like Charlotte. You know, we go
in to the corners and race trim, you let out
of the gas for a couple seconds, roll back to it,
you're sliding around, and then you know, you get done
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with your long run. You start a slow going down.
We come in the pits and five minutes later you're
startup for qualifying and they say, all right, well, according
to the sim and the data, with new tires and
tape and air pressures up, you should be able to
hold it wide open all around the track. And I'm
like what, because what I just felt? Can't do that?
And you go out there and you got one lap
to do it. You just got to trust what they say,
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and that's really really hard to do. You know, we
don't get mock qualifying runs. We don't get to practice
some of that you go out there and just give
it all you got. So it's really been an adjustment
just to trust yourself and trust what your team says,
and trust the data and go do it.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
The learning pains and growing pains that you were talking about,
we always hear that with a rookie season, right and
especially as you mentioned, another part of that was your
crew chief was also new, so he's trying to find
his footing. So what was the biggest thing or that
you guys went through or what was the biggest part
of trying to go through those learning pains and trying
to gel together when you have a season where as
you said, you get off to a rocky start, but
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obviously it ended very well that first part of the season.
What was just the biggest things you guys are trying
to get over to get over those growing pains.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I think you know me knowing what I need to
go fast, just knowing the balance, knowing how the tires
progressed or run, just trying to understand the air better,
things like that. But he can't really teach me. I
just kind of got to go on my own. At
the same time, he's just trying to guesstimate what's right
based off past notes, and then a pass driver like
Zane Smith using his notes versus me, Well, I got
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a lot of different driving style than he did, and
it just takes time to understand that. And that's veteran drivers,
a veteran crew chie's trying to learn each other and
at the same time, we're just figuring out how to
tackle that in the first place. And then I think,
you know, internally within our team, you know, we had
some struggles in the shop, and he's also not just
trying to be a crew chief on race weekends, but
trying to be a leader and manage people at the
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shop during the week. And you know, a lot of
that was just trying to teach guys on the team
what they need to do and stuff like this. But
you know, I learned that later on that a lot
of his time was having to be spent managing and
doing stuff himself or going back over things just to
make sure everything's right. And it took a lot of
time away from being on the sim and you know,
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looking at setup stuff, and he couldn't focus as much
on the important stuff of making raw speed when you
just have to make sure the truck's at the racetrack
and in the condition that's supposed to be. So now
we got a team that's fully functional. And you say
he didn't show up to the shop all week, they'd
have the job done. So it just took a little
bit of time for everybody. And you know, we were
a young team as well. Everybody that was on the
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team was pretty new. I mean, we were all a
bunch of rookies. So once everybody got their footing, everybody
on the team, not just the driver and crew chief,
then things started building.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So it sounds like it's better now in that regard.
As you said, Dylan maybe doesn't have to be micromanaging
so much. Right, It sounds like everybody has their place now,
so that should lessen what he has to do and
maybe you guys can focus more on just the racing
part of it. Exactly what does having a year under
your belt now, Lane, what does that do? What's going
to be the biggest thing going into year two?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, I mean, I hopefully it's a typical star athlete
sophomore season. You know, you come out at the beginning
and everything's a little rocky, and you get your footing,
and then the next year you come out with a bang,
and I think anything less of being in the final
four and having a shot in a championship is going
to be a little bit of a disappointment. You know.
Even last year everybody asked, you know, what's your goals?
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And my goal still is to go win a championship.
That's never going to change. But now I think this year,
I know what it takes, I know what we got
and I think it's one hundred percent feasible and it
should happen. So you have confidence is high, standards are high,
and that's what you got to have to go fast.
But yeah, I mean, I'm just excited to be able
to go back to some of these tracks, go back
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to the bigger tracks that I went to that I
was thrown, you know, to the wolves at so many
places last year. I remember getting out debriefing and I said,
if I knew what I knew about this race track
and about how to handle it at the at the
end of the race, if I knew that at the beginning,
we would have been so much better. I mean, three
quarters of the tracks we went to was like that.
So if I can just take that, if I keep
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that same knowledge and apply it to this year to practice, qualifying,
and even the beginning of the race, it's going to
be a lot easier. So I'm just glad that we're
going to go back and tackle kind of the same
tracks and kind of just getting used to everything. I
finally feel comfortable and know what I need.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
That was going to be my next question. Is there
one place in particular, or maybe a couple that you're
really excited to get back to.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah. I really enjoyed racing at Darlington and Homestead Miami.
I know they're kind of sibling tracks in the way
that they have low grip, same kind of shape configuration
and all, but you know, running up against the wall,
they were a lot of fun. I really enjoyed those tracks.
There's a lot of driver aspect behind it and having
to be really gentle on the throttle. Even though you're
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going that fast, you still had to be gentle. And
the same time, I am looking forward to Daytona Talabega
again and the speedways, I mean days one of this year.
Only last year I only got six laps before we
got wrecked out and Tyla Daga we made it to
the start of the final stage and we got wrecked out.
My goal there is just to finish. I know if
we finish, it'll be a good finish because there's not
a whole lot of people left at the end of
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the race. So yeah, I thought the speedway racing was fun.
It's a lot different. It's it's just a totally different
category the way that you race. So I am excited
to get there and try to tackle out. And also
the road courses, like we only had one last year
and that was at CODA. I have no clue what
I'm doing on road courses. I've never road course raced
in my life, never done anything about The only thing
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I did was the simulator for CODA at the Ford
simulator and we went and I qualified eighth and I
was like, wow, that's not bad and started the race
and everybody blew through turn one. I came out of
turn two and third and I was like, okay, we're
running top three in a road course race. Still don't
know what I'm doing. And then Ross Chastain was running
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second in front of me, and I passed him through
the esses and I was like, okay, well, if I
just passed Ross, he's you know, one cut races at
the road courses, I must not be too bad, and
then we had an electrical problem a couple laps later
that took us out of the race run a second.
So I know that Front Roads trucks are really good
on road courses. They got a good package, and I'm
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just excited to go to some new ones and learn
some more. Lime Rock's going to be new for a
lot of people, and I think that that's a pretty
fun track from what I've seen a lot of elevation
change going to the roval right here in our backyard.
I know that's going to be kind of a crapshoot
with that new hairpin corner, but I'm looking forward to it.
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And then Walkins Glenn's always just a classic road course,
so yeah, I'm excited for some change.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
We talked earlier about where you came from, right the
short tracks and a lot of on and off the
throttle running around the bottom shortest distance, and then you
mentioned they're about excited to go back to Darlington and
running against the wall. How quickly Lane did you you
adapt to doing something like that because it's different, as
we said, or where you came from, so being able
to run against the wall, which is such a skill
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that we see in this sport with all of you drivers,
did you feel like you adapted quickly enough and you're
ready to try to keep applying more of that. You
feel like you're getting better at that style of racing now.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, for sure, I think that it just kind of
goes hand in hand. I mean, we ran the wall
at a lot of tracks this year. I mean I
look at Kansas as one of them. A mom and
a half we ran the wall all the way around
the track was the best way. So yeah, I thought
it was just fun. It's nerve wracking, and you you know,
it's more of a finesse thing than anything, And I
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think that's really fun versus just barreling it off in
there and running on the bottom. I think it's really
fun to just kind of tiptoe up at the wall
and really just kind of dance with it. It feels like
a dance. We're down low, you feel like you're you're
driving the truck up top, you're just kind of dancing
with the truck. So yeah, I really enjoyed that, and
I feel like that I adapted pretty quickly. I've seen
enough of it and studied it enough that it came
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pretty naturally to me and something to a lot of
people don't realize there is the air buffer against it,
so you know, once you get close enough to the wall,
it actually creates that pocket of air and holds you
off of it. So you got to have the confidence
just to drive in there and know, Okay, if the
wall wasn't here, i'd probably slide up into it, but
since the wall effect is true, it'll hold me off
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of it, just barely, and just just having that trust
and knowing that it's going to happen every single lap.
So it's like a trust fall. A lot of these
places are like a trust fall. Talking about qualifying running
the wall all these things is like a big trust
fall when you when you fall backwards and somebody catches
you the wall or you're grippy your tires, it's it's
a big rush.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It's such a skill though, and it's so fascinating for
those of us on the outside to watch because I
feel like it takes so much talent. Even as you said,
there might be that air gap, that bubble kind of
helping you out, you still have to be perfect to
make sure that if you don't break that bubble and
catch the wall. I mean the wall it feel like
and it looks like it's going to hang on to you.
It's not so easy to get off it right if
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you do it.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, Luckily I didn't hit it much last year doing that.
I was. I was pretty modest. I was. I was
a little bit forgiving. I probably would have got gobbled
up in the in the Cup series, they would have
gone right past me. But your laser focused. I think
that's the best way I put A lot of times
I get out of the truck after races like that
and I just have a pounding headache, and you know,
like is it carbon monoxide or what is it? And
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I go get checked out and they're like, no, you're
just you're so focused and stressed. You just your brain's cooked.
And I'll go back to the hotel and fall asleep instantly.
So it's the most focused and mentally sharp you can be,
and just just staying in that realm is important.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
That applies though, I think for any racetrack, right, I
think that applies for just racing in general. I mean
I talked to William Byron yes straight for the podcast,
and he was talking about the same type of thing,
just how focused and how exhausted you are after races.
Is that something that's hard to explain or people don't
understand about Maybe what you all do about this sport
is just how mentally taxing and physically exhausting and what
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a workout it is to be behind the wheel of
a car or a truck.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, for sure, I think that. You know, it is
easy to overlook that, but you know, when there's a
lot of factors that are playing against each other, especially
during the summer, we're cooking inside the cockpit. I mean
it'll be you one hundred and twenty hundred and thirty
degrees and you got a full on suit, helmet, everything.
I mean, you're cooking in there, You're you're pretty much
in a sauna. And then at the same time, you're
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having to stay laser focused on one thing all the
way through, and you're adrenaline's pumping, your heart rates gushing
like you're just it's just everything's just flowing. And when
all that's going you really don't think about it. You
just kind of fight through it. You know. If you
start thinking about how, you know, I feel tired or
I feel like I'm this, everything just goes downhill, so
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you just got to stay in your zone. And then
when it's over and check your flags out and you
pull down pit road and kind of like, you know,
calm down a little bit. You're like, okay, now I'm tired.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's the adrenaline off.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Adrenaline wears off, and you're like, okay, I'm beat now.
You don't realize until after it's over, right, which you know,
I think it's good. Some people have that, some people don't.
I'm blessed enough that I got enough adrenaline and focus
that I can just fight through it. Don't really think
about it during the race, But when it's over with,
I feel it for sure. I think everybody does.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
So how long is the recovery period then after you know,
you get out of the truck, you're on pit road,
you're doing your obligations. How long still is the recovery
period before you kind of feel like all right, I
feel like my body, we're back to calm now, maybe
the headache goes away. How long does that take?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Typically? Usually when we get back on the plane that
night running, you're running, you're going, you're doing interviews, changing,
saying bye to the crew, getting the rental car flying
at the airport, trying to get this fast you can.
Once you finally sit down in your seat and you're like,
you usually fall asleep. So I've taken a lot of
naps on the plane home, and yeah, I've always had this,
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you know, I call it the race day hangover. It's
the day after it's like you just you feel like
you got to hangover, honestly, And you know, I think
that's part of dehydration. You know, no matter which how
much water you drink, you just went through so much,
you know, stress and sweat and everything, you just can't
really recoup. So yeah, usually the day after race, I
like to lay around and just kind of kind of
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recoop and recover. But then the day after the day
after that, I'm ready to go again.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, it makes sense. It makes sense, Lanne. When you
and I talked last year before your rookie season, you
had mentioned how one of the feelings that you had
was just relief to get the opportunity, Relief that it
had all come together and everything that you had worked
for had paid off. As we go into year two, now,
what's kind of the overall feeling now getting to go
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back and have a sophomore season.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, I mean, I'm still super thankful to even be here.
I mean, I got a lot of people that I
race within late models that I think are just as
deserving of an opportunity as I am that that never
got their shot. So yeah, I'm just thankful the people
that got me to this point even be racing at
a national level competitively at least Infinite Communications Jeff Coffee,
they were like the first sponsor that really believed in
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me and took me to the next level, that had
the means to do it and and got me to
this point. So you know, all I told him, I said,
I just want to get out here, and I know
if I get the shot to do it, I'll prove
everybody that I can do it and I deserve to
be here, and they had the faith to do it.
So yeah, I'm just still thankful still in all that
I'm even doing what I'm doing and just trying to
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make the most of it because you know, you truly
never know when it's going to be the end, and
you just got to always, you know, live day to day.
So yeah, I mean, it's it's awesome to be here.
And he said, I want to work as hard as
I can to make sure that I don't ever look
back and regret not doing something.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Did the expectation of what you thought being a full
time NASCAR driver was going to be? Like, did that
match reality as you were going through the year last
year and getting to actually be a full time NASCAR driver?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, it is. It's it's actually a lot more off
time than I had with my late model stone because
with my late model stuff, it was me and Dad
working at the shop at home and volunteer help from
you know, local people that we live with to help us,
and that was about it. So and also I was
in high school and college at the same time. You know,
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in twenty twenty two when I won the National Championship,
I was in college. We were working out of our
family shop at home. I had to commute back and
forth from Charlotte to Bahama to work on the car,
go to class, do my homework, do projects, go to
the racetrack practice. We were really really you know pulled
then through that time. That will always be the hardest
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I've ever had to work for anything in racing. And
like I said, we ended up getting the National Championship trophy,
So it was worth it. But now I can kind
of sit back and I can focus on driver stuff.
I don't have to be crew chief, car chief and
driver and have to worry about all those things. I can,
you know, go to the simulator do my part. You know,
I like to spend a lot of time in the
race shop. I'm going to head there right after this
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and spend time with everybody. I like being hands on.
But at the same time, you know, I know my
guy's got my back, and all they want for me
is to show up to the racetrack is mentally and
focus as best I can be on race days. So
it's really nice that I can kind of sit back
and do driver things.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
When it comes to doing driver things, what role, if any,
do your Cup Series teammates play. Can you lean on them?
Do you lean on them? Or are there other drivers
that you find yourself leaning on and going to for
advice or just to talk or to learn something.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah, I mean my Cup teammates this year. You know,
we're all pretty young in age and I could call
them friends. So it's you know good. If I ever
got a question, I asked them and they usually give
me a pretty good answer, you know, A person that's
really been helping me recently. It's David Reagan. He's now,
you know it works in the forward performance side and
he kind of helps all the forward drivers and especially
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the Truck series people. He's been coming to all the
simulator sessions and you know, I talk to him every
couple of days about just things I can do better.
And he's really been a good motivator and somebody to
help push me to be to better myself. So yeah,
thankful to him the time he's put in. But yeah,
I mean I feel like, you know, a lot of
the higher level guys you can kind of go ask
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for their help, especially just just being a just being
a truck driver. They don't really have to worry about them,
you know, them telling you something and you using it
against them. Yet hopefully one day I'll be able to
tell them, hey, you remember that thing you told me? Yeah,
I just did it to you. But now, everybody's been
super helpful to me, and you know, I'm very fortunate
that a lot of people want to see me succeed
and want to have a hand in it.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
And as we continue on the topic of just doing
driver things, I wanted to bring up the fact that
you don't have to focus on school anymore. You won't
have to split your attention as you were finishing your degree.
Finally graduated. First off, congratulations, I'm sure that felt good.
I saw the social media post. How Lane, do you
think that that will be different this year of not
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having again having to split your focus between those responsibilities
and then the race seeing responsibilities.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, I'm really relieved. I mean, I've never raced and
not been in school at the same time, so you know,
most of the time it was Monday through Thursday, I
was focused on schoolwork projects, and then Friday through Sunday
it was race time. Now I got the whole week,
and it's really nice. So I went, I'm doing two
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things that every driver's got to have, right. I went
and I bought a go cart to run up at
Trackhouse Motorplex, because everybody's gotta have one, right, And I'm
gonna go get me a set of golf clubs. I'm
gonna be a scratch golfer. That's the plan at least.
So you're not a real nice car driver if you
don't have golf clubs and a go cart. So I'm
getting those two things. I can officially call myself a
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real race car driver, but no, I just I get
to spend more time in the shop, spend more time
with my guys, and just kind of really have time
to do stuff and not have my brain in so
many different spaces. It was really hard with the mindset
thing of just having to switch things on and off. Okay,
it's school mode. I'm sitting here, I'm really focused on
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this problem or this paper I'm writing, and all of
a sudden I get a call from Dylan mcrewchief and
I got to turn that turn. The school went off,
turn the racing went on, and totally switched mindsets. Go
talk about racing, and then okay, I gotta switch this light,
switch back on the school stuff. When we hang up,
it's like it was always hard to kind of mesh
the two together, but now it's I always only got
one thing on my mind, so it makes it a
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lot easier for me.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I was really fascinated when I was looking around and
you and ce Charlotte had had highlighted you and some
of their their content, and particularly around your capstone project,
and then when you graduated, and I was really really
interested to learn in there that John Padillac. I did
not realize was a professor at UNC Charlotte, and we know,
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of course that he's a part of NASCAR. How cool
was that for you to kind of have those worlds collide.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, that was really cool. I was in his class,
his motorsports safety class, and we come in and he's like,
this is a helmet, this is the Hans device, and
he you know, he recognized me early on, you know,
like the first day class and he's like, you know,
pointed at me, like you know what this is? Lane.
I was like, yes, I do. A lot of people
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know in the class didn't get it, but uh, you
know I did. So I several times I stayed after
class with him and you know, we debated safety things
and talked about things that I'd like better and just
you know talked driver to personnel and you know, that
was really cool. And I always gave him crap. I
said his tests were too hard. So I ended up
getting a MS class, so I'm doing something right. But no,
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it was cool to have like the engineering side along
with the safety, along with you know my room with
things like even you know, my reck ad Talladega last year.
It was a pretty hard lick. And then I showed
up to class on Monday after and he pulled me
aside and like, you feel okay. I was like yeah,
and I'm okay. He's like, man, I looked at all
the data for that. That was a lick. I'm glad
you're all right. So it was so weird to walk
into school and all of a sudden, somebody's talking about
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my weekend. And then when I was in his class
was right when we won Milwaukee and Bristol, And yeah,
that was really cool, you know, showing up on Monday
morning just dressed in my school stuff and I think
he even putting his presentation that day that you know, uh,
student here won a race this weekend. So that was
that was really cool to get a shout out. So yeah,
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I'm excited to work with him. And I told him,
you know, anything that he wants to do R and
D for safety, especially in the truck series, not really
getting all the gadgets, you know, mouthpieces and you know,
as much data as the cup guys have. You know,
I'd really like to be a part of developing that
to make it better. So he's all on board.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
That's awesome, And I wanted to follow up on that
by saying that it sounds like unexpectedly, you now have
a much better relationship maybe with NASCAR and that side
of things through school and you have that relationship to
where you can say I want to be as involved
or what can we learn and he's checking in on you,
whereas maybe it wouldn't have been I don't want to
say that that wouldn't have happened. Right, It's not like
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NASCAR doesn't care about the drivers. But that had to
have been unexpected for you to now have this relationship.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, it's truly odd. It's gonna be weird seeing him
at the racetrack because to me, I'm like, why's my
professor at the racetrack. But yeah, no, it's it is
cool to kind of have that in depth part of it.
So yeah, hopefully it'll turn to something one day. And
like I said, I want to be an advocate for safety.
We want to be as safe as we can. We
don't it's not like the old days. We want to
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go out there and risk our lives every time we
get in the race car. It's if it's an option
to be safer, I definitely want it to be and
it was cool to get behind the numbers and analytics
and looking at crash tests. And you know, he even
like showed Cup car crash tests and we analyzed the
data from it and understood, okay, we made this change
and we recrash tested and this was the change in data.
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You know a lot of other mean cup drivers that
are driving the cars haven't even seen that stuff, and
I have and done the calculations in math behind it.
So it was definitely a cool little dive in.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Is that part of the sport interest? Do you like
being able and are you interested in looking at the
numbers and analyzing things and kind of understanding how things
played out or what happened or what the numbers mean.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
For sure, I mean not even just in the safety stuff,
but I mean I really enjoy working on the setup
of the truck, looking at simulation. You know, time Ajeski's
also you know, an engineer and graduated with a degree
as well, and he's basically the engineer on his own truck,
and he's one hundred percent hands on with what he does.
You know, I hopefully I can get to that level
(32:32):
one day because I want to be you know, if
I'm driving it, I want to know one what's up
under it, and two I want to have a hand
in trying to make it better. And I feel like
I have the best, you know, in depth mindset about
it because I'm the one only one that's feeling it
to make things better. So yeah, no, I definitely like
being hands on.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
That was another thing I was just going to ask
and you kind of answered. I was curious if you
are hands on at all with the truck, because you
do have that degree. You are. We talked about it
last year. You like to know what goes into the
truck and what goes into what you're driving. So it
sounds like when you go to the shop you do
help out a little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, for sure. I like getting hands on and anybody
in the shop that's kind of struggling, Like yesterday, you know,
I had the rum or I'm out and I was
setting up scale pads and you know, doing I'm kind
of like the gopher right now and doing the stuff
that people don't really want to do. And uh, you know,
somebody's working on something that I could easily do. I say, hey,
I'll do this job. You go do the important stuff
(33:27):
to make the truck go faster. I'll do the pitidy stuff.
So yeah, and I think that's good team bonding. I
think that my team's seeing that I am hands on,
how much I care about it and how passionate I
am about it, it makes them want to work even harder.
And yeah, I mean even last night we were burning
the midnight oil trying to get our Daytona trick together
and I was there alongside helping. And you you think
(33:48):
if I wasn't there, maybe they wouldn't even be there.
Who knows. So yeah, I want to push myself and
my team to be the best we can. And I
think being al it's like having a trainer or a
coach that tells you to go go run five miles.
Well say, hey, let's go run five miles, and he
goes with you. You know, that's a whole lot more
motivating to do it than somebody that just kind of
(34:10):
points and tells you what to do. So yeah, I
enjoyed being in the trenches with them.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
All right, on the topic of Daytona, as we wind
down here, last thing for you, Lane, what do these
final days of the off season look like? Probably, as
you said, burning mian night oil, getting the last minute
things done that you guys can do with that truck.
But for you, is there anything else you want to
try to squeeze into these last days before we head
to Daytona?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, I mean right now, it's kind of just a
studying point. You know, we don't do sim for speedways
or Atlanta, so we've been working on a simulator at
the tracks like Vegas, Homestead, Martinsville coming up that I
feel like we could be better at. At the same time,
talking with my spotter and sitting down with Dylan and
looking at film going over you know, spotder notes, listening
(34:53):
to radio, looking at the stats of how everything played out.
You know, this guy started you know, third row outside
and you know statistically it was better for him to
start on the inside. Just things like that that we
can look at and study now. So when I get
to the track, you feel like you're not questioning yourself.
You know exactly how it's going to play out, and
hopefully you can put yourself in that position to be
up front at the end. But yeah, I just just
(35:15):
trying to check all the last minute boxes, make sure
that I'm ready to go, and more mentally than anything,
especially with two speedway type races, coming up at the beginning, right.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
There, right at the beginning, starting off with a lot
of chance for opportunity, but a lot of chance to
tear some stuff up to right there exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
The first I look at. The first real race is
going to be at Vegas that you can kind of
judge your performance off of. You know, Daytona. Everybody knows
that Daytona Twlladay is kind of a crapshoot at the
end of the day, a lot of luck and chance
involved in it. Of course, the good guys are usually
at the front. They position themselves well, and I want
to be better at doing that. But no matter how
(35:52):
good you are, you can get taken out in the
last lap and end up being last. So yeah, just
in Atlanta, I mean I put that in the same
exact category. So yeah, I'm excited for him, but also
know that that's not really a tale of what the
year looks like for everybody. You know, if you ever
look at the points after Atlanta, it's always like really randomized,
(36:13):
and you're like, why is that? And then we go
to Vegas and Homestead and Martinsville. I think it's Martinsville
or maybe Rockingham, whichever one it is the fifth race. Like,
once you get to that point, everything starts to normalize
out and you really can stack yourself up. So yeah,
I'm ready to go, but the same time, ready to
get in the real racetracks too.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
After that, completely understand that. Ready to go once again, Lane,
gonna be back for a second year in the truck Series.
So always appreciate the time. I enjoy talking. We got
to talk before your rookie season. Here we are going
in your sophomore season. Maybe we'll just continue this. We'll
make it a theme right before every season. We'll catch
up on what you got going on.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, that's right. Hopefully in a couple of years we're
talking about my Cup debut stuff. That's the plan. And yeah,
gonna keep working hard towards So yeah, I appreciate the time.
It's good. We always get in depth stuff and talk
about some good stuff. Everybody watching.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
That's right, all right, I'll mark it down Lane Cup day. Well,
we'll put well penciling.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
On the schedule.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
How about that, Lane, I appreciate. I appreciate it as always.
Good luck this season and I'll see us soon.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yep, thank you.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Thanks once again E Lane for coming on the podcast.
We had about thirty five minutes or so. Actually we
just talked until we were done talking, and I appreciate
that about Lane always making the time in front Row
Motorsports as well. Alex Minton, my appreciation for coordinating and
getting this on our calendars. If you enjoy the conversation,
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(37:57):
Appreciate those as well. That is all I have for
this week, but we'll be back soon with a brand
new episode of The Racing Writers Podcast.
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