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Data here we are on THE Rcwr show With Lea.
Sanders he, everybody what is going? On lee senters with
you all for This monday night Of december, eighth twenty twenty.
FIVE i cannot believe that we are, here this the

(02:17):
final month Of. December gott. Almighty i'll tell you. What
this calendar year has been going, by extremely extremely. FAST
i tell you, What, hey if you Got twitter hop
on over, there got an exclusive poll up there at
THE Rcwr. SHOW i wanted to know what you guys
had thought about two nights wwe raw From Kansas, city

(02:42):
so definitely sound. Off if you don't have access to
The twitter and you're watching via other, outlets you can
definitely wonder what that. WAS i just heard the weirdest.
Noise had to be something coming from the. Bathroom it
had to be because it's got the dogs calls in

(03:05):
quite a storm right. NOW i wonder what that. WAS
i almost want to get up and go check what
the hell that, was but have a feeling it's something
that fell in the. Bathroom, Anyway, YEAH i got The
twitter pull. Up if you don't Have, twitter you. Can
if you're watching other, ways you could definitely pop Into
chat and let your voices be. Heard i'll tell you,

(03:27):
what as far as tonight, GOES i am really glad
THAT i have this show and we're here together right
now because it has been, Well i'll be honest with, you,
guys it's been a really bad start to the. Week
i'll tell you a little bit, more but definitely some

(03:50):
thoughts and prayers are. Needed i'll get into it a
little bit more later on tonight during the show So
Kansas CITY wwe where we got a little bit of
better progress on the show as far as quality of.

(04:10):
Matches it seems THAT wwe tried to give us more
quantity and quantity of matches for tonight's, show which went
off just shy before ten thirty pm on The East.
Coast but for those of you that were maybe hoping
we would get a continuation of one of the main

(04:32):
arcs concerned who is The Mystery? Man and we were
here last week talking about HOW wwe essentially fumbled The
Mystery man And Adam pearce and character and how he
was just conducting business on that whole thing and all,
that and you, know, HEY i figured what a difference

(04:55):
a week will. Make maybe we will get some, signal
magnificant progress that will No no won the. Contrary it's
kind of weird WHEN i really stopped and think about,
it because as far as tonight, goes here's the biggest.
Problem you just think back to what we got From

(05:20):
Monday Night. Raw you think about the fact that After
War games At Survivor, series going into That MONDAY'S WWE,
raw No, cumpunk No Roman, reigns No Cody. Rhodes THE
usos didn't even try to acknowledge what happened At Survivor

(05:44):
series and try to figure, out, yo who the hell
is this mystery man that DID x Y, Z what
the hell is that all? About you, know none of,
that none of. That and then you go into, tonight
especially after what had went down with the Mystery man
from last, week surely with a week's worth of rest

(06:09):
somewhat for the main flagship show RAW wwe was gonna
rebound nicely and really give some proper attention to storyline
detail with The max Mystery. Man, no we didn't get.
That we didn't even get a. Situation we're here tonight
between The, Bronsons logan And paul them having some type

(06:31):
of the interaction With Paul hayman to the effect, of,
hey That max, Person, hey come, on you can be
real with. Us that was Seth, rawlins wasn't. It that's
who that, was, Right you could be honest and For
Paul hayman to you, know at least go either you know, yeah,

(06:53):
yeah yeah, yeah or at least, no it wasn't. Me
contrary to how you may feel LIKE i responsible for
a lot of but, No i'm telling YOU i don't
know who the hell That max person. Is they sure
did do us a world of, favors. Though if you
see me raising my hand up LIKE i am, SPOCK
i am trying to adjust the camera because tracking mode

(07:17):
is now. Activated it's really really, weird but NOW i
got it. Back, anyway this Week's raw nothing, NOTHING i
Mean diddley's. Squad we only Saw Adam pierce a grand
total of twice, twice and the first time we saw

(07:37):
him it was backstage he was arguing With New, day
and then the second time we saw him was basically
the end of the. Show that pretty much was. IT
i tell you. WHAT i like the Way raw had,
ended as we had the vision beating the holy crap

(07:59):
out Of La. Night you, know, listen that was a
nice little cliffhanger and, everything because now you're going to
be going into FURTHER wwe programming wondering what's going on
With La knight as far as his. Status is this
going to be a case where he's going to be
out for a couple of. Weeks and it wouldn't surprise

(08:23):
me if that was really the, case because, honestly at this,
POINT i wouldn't be surprised if we don't see any
more Of La night until the very first rawle of
twenty twenty, six because remember we got Bron breaker taking
ON Cm punk there for His World heavyweight. Championship so

(08:45):
maybe just maybe that is where things maybe just maybe
that is where things are going to be. Heading i'm
not really, sure but me my education guess you know
that was kind of writing this out and. EVERYTHING i
think that'd be a great way to Have La night

(09:08):
essentially make his, return just when it seems as though
the odds are In Ron breaker's favor to potentially get
that championship off of C i'm. Punk you can even
have you be a case where the numbers game might
be at Play Logan, PAUL a couple of other people might
be there at ringside or. Whatever between you and, me,

(09:31):
THOUGH i really hope they don't go balls galore on
over booking of interference for That punk Versus breaker. Match
BUT i do kind of feel as though it's a
direction THAT wwe is likely going to be. Heading you,
know we've seen them be a host the right Word

(09:53):
i'm looking. For they love the over, booking all, Right
they're a lover of. It, okay not a, hater they're
a love of. It so, yeah just kind of weird
how they had did it tonight because they did not
Have Adam pierce acknowledge the actions of The Mystery man.

(10:13):
Whatsoever and The Mystery man made his impact not once
but twice tonight during the. Show one of the first
go rounds we saw The Mystery man. Tonight it tied
Into Logan paul letting The vision know he didn't like
the disrespect That Raymond stereo did upon him last week

(10:35):
by slapping the bejeebus side of him and wanted to
know what they were gonna do about that, problem because
he's basically telling The, bronze, YEAH i got this. Problem
how are we gonna solve? It they pretty much were, like,
oh you, know, well we're gonna be there for. You
we're definitely gonna take care of your. Problem we'll take
care Of Raymond, Stereo, like no. Problem Uh, So Raymond

(10:56):
stereo actually was supposed to have a match Against Finn,
balor and right as the formal introductions were under the,
way Ray mysterio was out, there First Logan paul jumping
him from, behind just savage beat, down just a savage,
beatdown and then IF i remember, correctly that's the first

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go round where The Mystery man popped, up delivered a
curb stomp and super. Kick all that good stuff rolled out.
Logan paul was continuing to add insult to injury When
La knight decided to come out there and damage had
already been done To Ray. Mysterio at this, Point La knight, decides, no, no, no, no,

(11:46):
No you're not going to get off the hook that.
Easy you, know you me one on. One let's go,
ahead let's do. It let's have a. Match so that
was actually our main event match of the. Night you
would have, thought after the actions of The Mystery, man
we would have seen some type of a segment Where Adam,
pierce which is losing his cool and he was doing

(12:08):
his best to Find Paul hayman and The vision and
there was going to be a heated verbal exchange between,
them but that did not. Happen maybe Even Adam pearce
and his ongoing investigation into the identity of THE mags
individual and trying to issue the severest penalty possible within

(12:34):
the structure, there you, know whatever that he can do
as a general manager and all, that but, no all
of that was essentially. Abandoned you, KNOW i didn't even
like the way that they had the commentators, essentially you,
know a lack Thereof, oh there's that mystery man, again you,

(12:55):
know at least really threaded Together connecticut usual, viewers while
also at the same time maybe kind of. Encouraging. Yo
you would just like to, believe, like where the hell
Is Adam. Pierce surely he's watching this on a monitor,
somewhere you, know surely somebody's getting worried to him about
This maxed individual striking. Again i'm very curious How Adam

(13:18):
pearce is going to be handling this because now this
is just getting kind of out of. Hand it's really
starting to get kind of ridiculous. Here ww you got
some work to, do, Man, seriously you got some serious
work to. Do so at that second time that The
Maxed individual had made their presence felt was in that
main event match Between La knight And Logan. Paul shout

(13:41):
out To, Logan. PAUL i know he gets a lot
of flack from, people but let's give credit where credit is, due,
Right let's give him his flowers where it's. Due, quietly
this guy has been appearing more ON wwe, television and
on top of, that he's been wrestling more on the television.

(14:04):
Show so kudos to him, for you, know making the time,
out you, know especially during this period in the, holidays you,
know he still has a relatively new baby and all,
that and here he is doing a little bit more
on the road with w W. E good, stuff good.
STUFF i like. THAT i like. That, yeah. Mugging it

(14:24):
was a straight up mugging there On La night for
that main event match numbers. Game if you want to
make an, argument it essentially took five people to beat L. A.
KNIGHT i will tell you, yeah it pretty much took
five people to beat the crap out Of La. Night
as you Had Bronson, reed Bron breaker taking, turns essentially

(14:46):
distracting the, Referee Paul hayman getting involved as, well and
then essentially the max individual striking it again Attacking, night
Giving Logan paul and. Assists, postmatch the vision really just

(15:12):
goes to town beating the holy crap out Of, Logan Paul
tsunami For La night a. SPEAR i, MEAN i mean
this was, ugly you, know ugly than this. Man, afterwards
Bron breaker cutting another fantastic skating promo on, cmpunk letting

(15:36):
it be known the current cmpunk that's running around is
not a big fan of it. Whatsoever he wants to
see them punk that he grew up watching that to
a degree he almost. Idolized he wants to see them
punk that he fell in love with from twenty, eleven twenty,
twelve twenty. Thirteen he's not buying the CURRENT cm punk

(15:56):
that's taking pictures with kids and all the talents in
the back and posting it on his social, Media and
he's not buying the whole notion THAT cm punk is
a good. Guy. Now now he wants to seem punk of.
Old he knows that version still, exists and at least
he hopes that version does even kind of sarcastically mentioned

(16:21):
the whole straight edge concept that IS cm, punk that
is his whole, life and mentioned the fact that you, know,
yeah you say you never touched, drugs you never touch,
alcohol and yet you look like a recovering. CRACKHEAD i
don't know If Paul hayman kind of was laughing under

(16:43):
his breath or, what but he was covering his. FACE
i don't. KNOW i don't think that Broke Paul. HAYMAN
i Think Paul hayman was legit just trying to sell
the shock in awe of What breaker. Said but no
back to back. Weeks definitely a major highlight of the.
Night it's nice to see that Bron breakers promo from
last week was very well. Received this one not as

(17:07):
strong as last, week but very complimentary to it without a.
Doubt So raaker hitting all the right points pretty, much
letting it be, known you know this current punk that's running,
around and if you bring this version to our championship
match in a couple of weeks on the one year

(17:28):
anniversary Of raw On, Netflix he's going to destroy the
hell out of that. Version, yes by the, way NO
Cm punk again. TONIGHT i wasn't going to talk about
this until later, on but you, know since we were
kind of MENTIONING Cm, punk it was interesting, because you,

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know we talked about How punk was not on the
show last, week AND i didn't put two and two
together at the, time but it turns out THAT Cm,
punk you, know and Aj lee's Dog, larry had passed.
Away and so when you go back and you See

(18:13):
punk At survivor series war games and you just look
AT i thought something was a little bit off with,
him and it just it went in my head AND
i didn't think nothing much of, it BUT i remember
seeing the jacket that he was wearing At survivor series

(18:34):
that Said larry's, dead AND i, thought, oh, wow that's
really really. Cool that's a nice little jacket. There nice
didn't think nothing much of. It and SO i don't
know if their Dog larry died that weekend and or
going Into survivor series or, what but DEFINITELY cm punk

(18:57):
Aj lee definitely thinking about you during your. Loss let
me tell you, something for anybody that has never been
a pet, owner it's the worst thing that you ever
want to go. Through it's the worst thing you will

(19:20):
experience is losing that for a. Friend longtime listeners will
remember over a year AGO i lost My Pickanese. MAGGIE
i had known her for almost fifteen. Years so by

(19:40):
the time me And TAM's started, DATING i Think maggie
had already been in the picture at that point because
she Got maggie When maggie was like ALMOST i won't
say virtually like first, born but she did Get. MAGGIE
i would, SAY i would say maybe after about two,

(20:06):
months three months After maggie was, born and picked her
up from an, airplane because that's How maggie essentially had.
Traveled she traveled via an airplane And TAM's went to
the respected airport to get her and all. That and,
yeah So maggie was around for eighteen, years believe it or.

(20:30):
Not eighteen years that's human. Years and you, know for,
Me maggie was truly the first dog THAT i ever.
OWNED i, MEAN i can remember only flashes as a
little kid of this one DOG i used to, have

(20:51):
Named Flea. BISCUIT i had it for like a couple of.
Weeks you, know my mom tried to do her damn,
this but once our landlord found out we had a,
dog was like got to get rid of. It and
it was kind of, like, well that. Sucks and then
when me and my mom had stayed with my grandpa

(21:14):
for a hot, minute he had A German shepherd Named,
silver AND i used to love spending time With. Silver
silver was like my only friend in this weird neighborhood
THAT i was living in AND i didn't know, anybody

(21:35):
didn't have any, friends like, nothing and you, KNOW i
was always hanging in the back of the house With.
SILVER i managed to actually Teach silver a couple of
tricks despite how old she was and. Everything but like
that was like really the full extent to which you, know,

(21:57):
okay here is my excess ability to dogs as far
as like on a semi regular. Basis maggie was the,
first you, know and so it was heartbreaking last year
to watch her in her final. Moments you, know we
tried to make her as comfortable as. Possible you, know

(22:21):
she would have good. Days then she would have a
lot of bad, days you, know towards the. End you,
KNOW i don't know if it was maybe, dementia you,
know but she would just non. Stop she would be
in a, corner just you, know in, circles and then
if you tried to pick her, up kind of reset,

(22:41):
her maybe try to bring her near you and try
to calm, her pet, her maybe try to brush her.
Hair she wanted to get right back, down and she you,
know had to go and wherever she was trying to.
Go but like it, was it, was you, know getting really.
Bad but there would be some days where you, know

(23:05):
she'd have really really good days and it was a
case where we, went, well, okay maybe maybe you, know
that's the hard. Part you, know the hardest part is
trying to figure out when it's time to say, goodbye
right because the last thing you want to. Do. WELL

(23:28):
i don't know what's going. On my dogs are barking
like a. Mofo hang, on, guys all, right that was. Good,

(23:57):
okay we're. Back oh my. God you, KNOW i normally
don't check my door during the, stream But i'm remembering that.
Now the latest trend is you got people that like
to kick people's door because of the TikTok videos or.
Whatever SO i just wanted to make sure everything was
on the up and. Up and we're good. Now my

(24:19):
wife literally just walked in the, door so it's like
they're happy to see. Her that's who they're barking at,
now which is weird BECAUSE i didn't even get a
notification on my phone From ring letting me know, that you,
know somebody was approaching the. Door kind of. Weird i'll
look into that, later but, No maggie's strung, together good

(24:40):
days and all. That you, know the hardest part as
a pet, owner especially if you're a first time pet,
Owner the hardest part is knowing when it's time to
say goodbye to your furry. Friend you, know IF i
can offer any piece of. Advice IF i were to
offer a piece of advice to See i'm punk Aj
lee to you out, THERE i would, say what made

(25:05):
it a little bit easier for us and this household
IS i would SAY i would say it was about
two years Before maggie passed me And tam, Said, hey you,
know we need to make this transition be as easy

(25:27):
on us as. Possible maybe we should entertain the idea
of getting another, pet you. Know that, Way maggie can you,
know essentially have some. Company you, know she's not always.
Alone you, know that shot of youthfulness will maybe you

(25:52):
know kind, of, Hey i'm not alone. ANYMORE i actually
have a companion here and they can kind of bounce
off of each other and. Everything and that's How, chloe
our first yorky, uh that's how she came in so
many years. Ago So maggie actually was a big sister

(26:14):
and a mom at the same time to To, chloe
and you, know they bonded pretty. Well maggie was very
standoffish at, first you, know for like the first halfu of,
weeks and then slowly but, surely you, know she came
around and you, know sometimes she wanted to play With,

(26:38):
chloe but then most times she just wanted to be
in chill. Mode it was kind of cool seeing seeing
their whole uh dynamic and. Everything and then you, know fast,
FORWARD i think it was a. Year then we ended
up having a situation where our same friend who we

(26:58):
Got chloe from was, like, hey you know the mom
is the mom's is pregnant again and we got another.
Litter would you guys be? Interested and it's kind of
like now our thought process was because at this, point
not at a year, past you, know we're really looking
At maggie and we're going not really sure how much

(27:21):
longer than the last thing we wanted was for there
to be a situation Where chloe was going to be
alone by, herself because she has always had some type
of constant. Companion she's never been alone and she's very,
clingy and so it was, like, well, OKAY i guess
we can kind, of you, know do it that. Way

(27:43):
so that kind of helped us. OUT i, know for
some people they'll say something along the lines of, all,
well when you know you're one pet has passed and you,
know maybe you're not in a situation where you managed
to get another pet before that other pet passed, away you,

(28:06):
know some people will say just you, know go, ahead
get another. Pet and that can be a little controversial
for some because some people are, like, nah, man you
should be able to, Grieve you should really take your.
Time you shouldn't just jump right into getting another. Pet
i'm not going to tell you the right or wrong

(28:27):
answer in regards to. That WHAT i will tell you
is everybody is. Different so you you just you know
how you are at. Home you, know it's just kind
of one of those you got to just dig down
deep within yourself and you go, accordingly, Right and that's

(28:48):
that's really. All that's the best ADVICE i can. Give
you just got to go. Accordingly you'll know when the
timing is right and all of. That but they got
a lot of YEARS aj And, punk they got a
lot of, years good years out Of. Larry to hear
that they essentially rescued him from a shelter back in twenty,

(29:10):
fifteen and here we, are you, know ten years over ten.
Years that is a really good. Run AND i know
Initially larry had a lot of complications that you, know
most people would have just, said, nah we're. Good but

(29:34):
that didn't. Matter those, challenges whatever was going, on it
didn't matter TO aj And. Punk so to those that's
GOING i wonder when Seam punk's going to, Return wonder
When AJ's going to like they can take all the.
Time that's the other thing THAT i want to BECAUSE
i don't see enough people really talking about, this and
that's you, know you show me a person that says

(29:54):
they don't like, pets they don't like, dogs they don't like.
Cats i'll tell you. WHAT i don't trust them just
as a person period because if they're rolling like, THAT
i don't care to get to know, them you, KNOW
i ALWAYS i always tell folks, like if you want
to know a person's true, character like how are they

(30:16):
at their? Core see how they are when they're interacting with.
Pets see how they are when it comes to interacting with,
Children see how they are when it comes to interacting
with the. Elderly see how they are when it comes
to interacting with people of, disability because those will give

(30:36):
you your red flags all right there if they're an
asshole or. Not so you, know to anybody that's, like,
ah you, know it's just a, pet they, should you
have no. Clue you have no. Clue it really is
a case where when you've had that pet for as

(30:57):
many years as you've you know had. It that is
a lot of. Bonding they truly do pick up your
personality traits and all of. That, so you, know To
punk AND aj take your, time you, know for ALL i. Care,
AGAIN i was gonna talk about that until later on
in the, show but just as we were talking About

(31:19):
punk and we just happened to be right. There you,
know this kind of made sense to you, know give
that nod and. Everything appreciate you, guys patience and. Everything
some other stuff that happened from tonight's. Raw guther's promo
pretty much reiterating what he briefly touched upon On Friday Night,
SmackDown basically, saying, yo we are less than five days

(31:42):
away From Saturday night's main, Event John cena's final. Match
guther promises that he is going to Make John cena tap.
Out John sena is always talking about never give, up, plustle, loyalty,
respect Well goother's gonna make sure That John cena does

(32:05):
the one thing that he has essentially never done in
his illustrious career. Career wink. WINK i think you understand
Why i'm doing the wink, wink which is basically make
him give. Up, Right but if you're keeping track at,
home and you essentially know your wrestling history in regards

(32:29):
To John. Cena that's All i'm. Saying that's All i'm.
Saying but who cares Goother John? Cena Saturday night's main
event right here in The nation's capital Of, WASHINGTON, dc
gonna be. Good LIKE i was trying to tell a

(32:49):
few friends and colleagues of the, show but somehow we
just kind of went past. Them i'm surprised they didn't
try to follow up with me more and asked, Me,
lee you're right there in D. C is there anything
interesting going on in regards To John? Cena and you
know you're you're right, there you, know especially since you're

(33:11):
now majoring in. Journalism you know what what are you?
Hearing are you hearing? Anything AND i had said it
in a form AND i had briefly mentioned it to
another one of my. Friends, uh and it just it
kind of went under the, radar, Right so you're hearing it?

(33:34):
Here oh, whoa we got a zoom, man hang, ON
i don't know how that. Happened sorry about. That so
check this. Out you're getting an exclusive. HERE i can
tell YOU i am hearing That Mayor Muriel BOWSER dc
Mayor Muriel bowser that something is possibly in the works

(34:02):
in Recognizing John cena and commemorating you, know basically his
his history here in the district and and all of.
THAT i don't know if that might consist of like
getting a key to the city of the, district BUT

(34:22):
i am hearing some chatter that something along those lines
is in the. Works now as far as you, know
hey what About John cena and and you know this
whole thing About trump and you know where it is
is That vince McMahon is potentially going to be there

(34:45):
and and LIKE i can't speak to who always potentially
going to be At John cena's final match come This.
Saturday but WHAT i can tell you that nobody else
appears to be talking. ABOUT i almost want to SAY

(35:07):
i have it on good, authority BUT i AM i
have to go through one more source to. Confirm BUT
i am hearing That John cena may be going to
The White house to See President, trump and that there

(35:30):
is going to be some type of a thing With
Senah Triple, H Paul, Levec stephanie, McMahon Potentially linda. McMahon
i am hearing that there is going to be some
type of a, official you, Know John cena thing at

(35:51):
The White house, now whether or Not John cena is
going to be accepting that and all that other. STUFF i, mean,
look we saw what happened over the weekend with Kiss Sylvester,
stallone you, know a couple of other people that got
some spirit awards or whatever from The, president and you,

(36:12):
know my, God i'm looking At Sylvester stallonge's hair And i'm, going,
man the hair just seems to be getting more closer
and closer to his. Eyebrows what the hell is going?
On but that element about the Whole White, house like nobody,
else nobody you heard that here, First so just kind
of keep those. Things LIKE i got to talk to

(36:34):
one more person to see, like, okay is this. Official
Like i'm trying to go through my contacts and you,
know trying to see IF i can get. Worried but
if you're staying connected to me on social, media you
will definitely, know you know WHAT i am officially able to.
Confirm but, like how confident DO i feel right now

(36:56):
with some of the things That i'm telling you? GUYS
i feel pretty. Good SO i, mean if you maybe
want to go to a form or you want to
go on social media and you want to, say, hey you,
know check it, Out, Lee and you know he's reporting,
allegedly you know that this is what's gonna. Happen you,
know you know he didn't note that he you, know

(37:18):
he needed to check with a couple of. Sources but
you know he's saying he feels pretty. Confident, yeah you
can go, ahead you can run with. That so we'll
see what happens with. That i'm pretty excited, THOUGH i
will be doing A Saturday night's main event post show
once that event is in the, books got to talk
more about that car for This. Saturday that card is

(37:40):
shaping up to be pretty good. Too Eo sky taking
On Cary say in our first match. Opener eo Had
Ria ripley in her. Corner, Well cary Had osca in her.

(38:01):
Corner pretty solid opener to Tonight's Monday Night. RAW i
enjoyed that, matchup nice little back and forth between both.
Women you, know it's kind of interesting too that we
got that match between those, girls BECAUSE i was looking
at it AND i thought the girls put out a

(38:23):
really damn good. Match but there was a part of
me that felt a little bad BECAUSE i was looking
at it, going, oh, MAN i wish we could have
got this on a. Pole it just would have been
better to get it on a. Plle but you, know,
hey it's all. Good i'll take it for what it's.

(38:44):
Worth nice back and. Forth you, Know sky continues to
capture THE wwe fans. Imagination it's just amazing how she
has organically gotten over with the. CROWD i, mean she

(39:06):
can really do no. Wrong and then to have that
be overlapped with the great depth that continues on with
the women's division as, well you, know the women's division
and has kind of been a, nice little quiet sleeper
as far as improvements, go going into the second half

(39:28):
of this calendar year and everything really good, stuff really good. Stuff,
meanwhile speaking of good, stuff tag match Aj, Styles Dragon
lee defending against the War. Raiders now we Saw Grayson
waller and New. Day they're at ringside checking out everything
that was going. On couldn't have but wonder maybe they

(39:50):
were going to cause a little bit of, interference but they.
Didn't if, anything they waited until the match was over
to make their presence felt in. Everything. Thing you, know
say what you will like for some PEOPLE Aj styles
And Dragon lee as a tag. Team it may not

(40:10):
really be super over with, folks but the fact that
we've got fighting tag team champions that's pretty much going
in weekend week, out defending the titles and basically being
in this position where teams that we haven't maybe thought

(40:32):
about in a, while you, know like the War. Raiders,
wow why does it keep zooming in like? That that's
like really getting. ANNOYING i don't know why he keeps doing.
That it's almost like it's got a mind of its,
own which is kind of weird tonight with the. Webcam
but you, know as far as these guys operating short

(40:52):
term as, champions LIKE i am all five to, FOUR
i just honestly feel that at this, rate these guys
are gonna at least hold on to the tag titles
until Wrestle mania and then from there pretty MUCH Aj
styles Flying solo and. Everything post Match New Dave Grayson,
waller they get in the, ring looks as though maybe

(41:13):
it's about to be a three on two beat. Down
when THE usos come out, There ussos letting it be
known they are going back to. Basics they're going after
tag team Gold jimmy was sitting on the sideline and
he saw what happened to his Brother jay last, week
pretty much having a nervous. Breakdown he essentially snapping and, Admitted,

(41:39):
yo see my brother TAKE l AFTER l AFTER l
AFTER l AFTER. L you, know, hey tosh yourself. Off
what we gonna do? Here And jay pretty much, yeah you,
know we're gonna do what we do, Best and he
says TO aj And, dragon you know you got is

(42:00):
don't know about us just, yet but you will in due.
Time looked over At New Day Grayson, waller but you,
guys y'all definitely know about, us what we're capable of and,
everything you, know kind of led to a brief little stare,
down a mean MUGGING usos drop those guys like a bad,
habit you, know pretty solid. Stuff so it'll be interesting

(42:23):
to see what happens with THE usos because obviously THE,
usos you, know you can't just UNLESS aj And dragon,
go you, know, hey we want to take on the very. Best, yeah,
sure we want THE, usos you, know come get some
or if it's going to be a case where THE

(42:45):
usos are going to have to climb through the tag team,
division get a couple of, w's then that's how they'll
be able to catch a match with Aj styles And Dragon.
Lee i'm just kind of wondering how this calendar year
is going to end for Jus. So by the, way

(43:07):
pretty hilarious to see now that you, know you got
other podcasts that's jumping out, there, going are you tired
of Jay uso? Yet you? Know is Jay uso? Overexposed
is Is? Jauso it's, like welcome to the, club my?
Friend where you? BEEN i, mean this has always been

(43:27):
the case pretty. Much Lyra valkyria taken on Rox Sam. Perez,
uh this was, uh this was pretty this was pretty,
BADASS i gotta. Say. Uh Liv morgan was THE x
factor in this one and helping Roxanm perez secure THE

(43:51):
Wu Live. Morgan it's kind of interesting everything that led
up to this and everything because remember last we Saw,
live you, Know live basically has her eyes On Stephanie
viquire and she wants That women's championship belt. There but,

(44:13):
but BUT i think it was a little bit earlier
in the, Night Stephanie viquierre was in the ring and
she pretty much was trying to look, ahead you, know
trying to put a challenge out there whoever is, next
because pretty much, she's, hey you know now That i've
Put Nicki bella in her. Place Nikki bella comes out

(44:33):
there Letting vikira, Know, yo we are not, done not
by a long. Shot you need to give me another
rematch for that. Championship and Then Raquel rodriguez just came
out of, nowhere just beat the crap out of her
Set Nikki bella headfirst into corner of the still, posts

(44:57):
got in the. Ring Look Stephanie vakre up and down
and pretty much told her name the, time naming the.
Place i'll beat that. Ass i'll take that championship belt
off your. Hands so whether or not that's going to
be happening At Saturday night's main, EVENT i, mean they
didn't announce, it so maybe it's safe to say it's
going to be playing out on a future episode Of

(45:18):
Monday Night. RAW i, mean, honestly at this, point you
might as well make the match go down on that
what Is january, Sixth you might as well make it
go down on that one year anniversary Of role On.
NETFLIX i mean that Just january, fifth Correction january, fifth
twenty twenty, six you might as well just forward it
to that at this point makes all the sense in the.

(45:40):
World circling back To Live, Morgan Live, morgan, essentially you,
know she catches up With kel backstage and says to,
her you, know, hey you know so you're you're going
for the women's championship, there, Huh LIKE i you, KNOW
i would have been NOT i just had you gave

(46:00):
me your heads up and. Everything And raquel's, LIKE i
didn't THINK i needed to run anything by. You and
the Way live tried to play it, off you, know it's, like,
oh you, know, HEY i come in. Peace you, know,
hey you, KNOW i know you don't need my. Permission
it's just you, know just trying, to you, know make
sure we're on the same, page you, know girl, power girl.
Support you, know you could See Live. MORGAN i love

(46:24):
the way she was, selling the facial expressions and. Everything
kind of not in their, view but we at home
were able to see how she was feeling in. Everything
obviously she felt slighted right, here so she sarcastically you
kind of hear it in her, voice but she sarcastically

(46:46):
Wished Raquel rodriguez luck and Then, meanwhile she decides to
latch you Onto Roxanne. Perez roxanne initially kind of act
like she generally need lives assistance going the ring side
there for a match Against Lyra. Vakaria But live, besides,

(47:07):
well you, know If raquel is gonna be going after
the women's, championship well then that means you and me
need to be going after the women's tag. Titles so come, on,
bestie right, boy this is just. Hilarious. Now the match
itself Between lyra And, ROXANNE i gotta be, honest sloppy as.
Hell this was. SLOPPY i didn't like. IT i did

(47:31):
not like it one a little. Bit but, again you're
you're thinking about the fact, that you, know for the women's,
division you, know the tag team, division you, know some
serious depth that they're continuing to build and, everything and
then just Having Live morgan added in. There you, Know
Live morgan right now is you Know frank's Red, hot you,

(47:55):
KNOW i put that ship on. EVERYTHING i, mean and it's.
Good SO i LOVE i love what we got going
on We, live you. Know but the match itself Between
lyra And roxanne a little too sloppy for my personal.
Taste i've seen better efforts from both. Women Natalia montage
we got of her, Training Maxine dupree a little nice

(48:18):
continuation of. THAT i only got one. Gripe so we
Have Maxine duprie who is just beating the, crap making
all these victims tap, out and Ultimately natalia, says all,
right now let's try, me you, know take me on for.
SIZE i wish that it could have been a situation

(48:42):
where maybe we get a cameo From Shana. BASLER i
think that would have been, badass and Maybe Shane bazler
steps in beats the crap out Of Maxine, dupree And natalia,
says you still have a lot to, learn and then
you could stretch that out to another week and then you,

(49:04):
know maybe then like, somehow by the next, Week dupree
is able to Surpass, basler and Then natty's, like, okay
now you take me on and you go another week
and then first lock up Between dupree And, Natty natty

(49:26):
beats her. Ass you still got a lot to, learn
and then you, know maybe you do another week where
dupre is, training and then you, know you follow it,
up you, know and then ultimately she does Overcome natty
And natty essentially is, Like, okay now you're. READY i,

(49:48):
mean why are we hotshotting? This this kind of feels
like one of those deals, where If i'm not, mistaken
this is being hot shot it To january fifth's raw
when your, anniversary you, know because, otherwise you, know if
we're not hot, shotting you, know then what else is
going on? Here curious minds one, Alone But i'm still

(50:11):
liking these little grainy, looking kind of monochrome little vignettes
that they're doing Showing maxine training and. ALL i, mean
girl looks like a freak. POSSESSED i, mean, Seriously i'm loving.
It i'm Loving i'm loving the intense training going on

(50:31):
there With. UPRE i think other than, that we pretty
much covered everything for tonight's. Show i'm even going back
just making sure we're looking at my notes and. Everything,
yeah we covered everything besides THE eo Carri say. Match

(50:52):
i'm just looking at the rest of the CAR i
actually enjoyed the tag match for the tag. Titles that
actually was a really good match as. Well, YEAH i
would say besides those two, matches another great promo by Bron.
Breaker nothing really captivating for this two plus hour, program you,

(51:20):
know almost to a, degree another nothing, burger you, know
but at least you have a little bit of excitement
going Into saturday night's main event On. Peacock look at
this card that they got set. Up, Here we've, got of,
Course johnson had taken on Goonther sena's retirement, match and

(51:43):
then we Have Dragon lee and Aj styles teaming up
in a tag match against NXT's Javon evans and THE
TNA X division Champion Leon. Slater that's gonna be your tag.
Match that's that's gonna be really really. Good by the,
WAY i had a lot of fun With TAM's over the,

(52:04):
weekend we did a new episode Of wrestling with The.
Topics we talked at great length about THE Tna wrestling
deal WITH, Amc so if you guys are kind of, wondering, like,
definitely we dropped that episode live On sunday and it

(52:24):
is now available for on demand and downloads wherever you
get your, Podcasts so definitely go and check that. Out,
also On Saturday night's main event this, Weekend bailey will
be taking on NXT's Soul. Ruka should be a damn good.
Matchup and then we've got a champion versus champion titles

(52:46):
are not on the. Line we Got Cody rhodes taken
On Oba. FEMI i am aware THAT nxt had did
the deadline event and in that main event Match Obra
Femi Ricky saints for THE nxt. Title Obra femi getting

(53:08):
the title right. Back i'm sure a lot of people
did not see that. Coming me. Personally ONCE i took
a look At obafemi upon his, RETURN i, said Good God,
almighty somehow this guy got two times, bigger like naturally

(53:28):
whatever he's, eaten, yo he about to he about to
destroy Poor Ricky. Saints and, yeah that's pretty much what
had happened. There and Since Oba femi had, one, remember
he won the right to Face Cody rhoades At Saturday
night's main, event as it was revealed from last Week's. SmackDown,

(53:53):
Also Kendall gray defeated Soul Ruka lola Wes Kalanie Jordan
Jordan grace in The Women's Iron Survivor challenge for AN
Nxt Women's championship. Match At New Year's Evil Ethan page
retained His North American championship against Mister iguana Is He

(54:19):
dame With Nico vance And Sean spears looks like is
He dame Defeated Tatum paxley singles match and then for
Your Men's Iron Survivor CHALLENGE Nxt championship At New Year's,

(54:40):
Evil Javon evans picking up a win Over Leon, Slater Joe,
Hendry Dion lennox And Males. Born so very curious to
see speaking OF, tna just you, know thinking about, THEM
i can't help but wonder what's going to be happening
With Killer kelly and her husband BECAUSE i know right NOW,

(55:12):
tnan No Carlo silver Or. Silva he has said he's
engaged them in contract negotiations and he's pretty confident that
something's going to be worked. Out so, yeah definitely you
want to do everything you count in your power to
keep them AT tna and. Everything but LIKE i, said

(55:34):
if you guys did not check Out wrestling with The
topics from over the, weekend go check it, out because
me And thamas we had a lot of fun going
in depth about THE tna deal ON. Amc we also
talked that great length about what's going on with This
netflix Time warner deal and now what a difference a

(55:58):
day pretty much makes now we see That paramount they
are not giving up without one hell of a. Fight you,
know they have essentially countered What netflix is putting out
there as according to The Associated, press let me see
IF i can pull Up, yep there it is according

(56:20):
to This Associated. Press it looks like because remember the
big comes After warner last week agreed to buy or,
correction agreed to be bought By netflix for seventy two billion,
dollars and Essentially paramount has come in with a hostile.

(56:44):
Bid it's like over one hundred something billion dollars, now
so and then you add in the fact that the
president is somehow thrown into the mix and all. That, yeah,
yeah not not. Good? Whatsoever not? Good What's i'm just
trying to think real. Quick so we talked about we're

(57:04):
all we got raw in the books just reading the
rest Of, yeah we talked about. That we talked about,
That we talked about that one other THING i want
to touch. UPON i don't want to end the show
on A debbie. DOWNER i know earlier we had talked
about Aj lee and c On punk's Dog larry passing

(57:28):
away and all, That AND i tell you, what nothing
sucks even more than when you have a passing that
occurs during the. HOLIDAYS i said at the top of the,
SHOW i really am glad to be doing this show here,
tonight be live with you guys and, everything because for,
me my, Day i'm not being long and drawn out about,

(57:51):
it but my day it started off kind of relatively.
GOOD i have finished putting the final touch on a
profile piece THAT i was working on covering a reporter
very near and dear to my, heart a fixture here
in The Nation's capital Of, WASHINGTON, Dc Jim. Vance he

(58:16):
started his journalism career out In, philadelphia and he pretty
much was COVERING dc. Here he pretty much had been
COVERING dc local, news particularly ON nbc FOUR, WRCTV nbc
four for over four, decades like forty five plus, years

(58:39):
if not a little bit. More he passed away in twenty,
seventeen lost his battle to. Cancer and it was really
insightful going down memory. Lane and then some of the
interviews THAT i conducted with people actually had the pleasure
of interviewing folks currently that work AT nbc. Four you,

(59:03):
KNOW i told him HOW i was writing this, piece
and you, know asking if they be willing to contribute
and they were, like, yeah, sure no. Problem AND i
ended up talking To tams Because tams my, wife she
first hand would visit the studios and she would See

(59:26):
Jim vance at, work so she would see the little
things that most, people you, know aren't able to, see you,
know because she was right there in the studio and.
Everything so it was nice picking their brains and just you,
know putting this piece together and. Everything and you, know
my semester is getting ready to wrap, up wrap up pretty,

(59:48):
strong And i've just been trying to get into the
holiday spirit and. Everything and my mother in law's longtime,
boyfriend he had been diagnosed with. Cancer, GOD i think
it was In, october and just the health. Decline it's

(01:00:12):
just been you, Know, initially you, know we kind of, thought,
well you, know he'll probably, maybe maybe he'll make it To,
thanksgiving and you, know but he went Past thanksgiving and
it was, like so why AM i saying all, this

(01:00:33):
some of you guys are. WONDERING i really wasn't in
the headspace to do a show tonight because earlier TODAY
i find out that my mother in law's, boyfriend at
least according to the boyfriend's, daughter she had went to
check on. Him he was gasping for. AIR i don't

(01:00:55):
know if it was a cardiac arrest thing or, what
but Basically ami was. Called he went to the hospital
and you, know they did tests all that other, stuff
and you, know basically they were able to get to
him just in, time but because of how advanced the

(01:01:17):
cancer is right, now they basically, said look at this,
point you have maybe you, know two, days if, not
maybe a. Week so my mother in law's, headspace, like
it's just you, KNOW i didn't really know, him but

(01:01:40):
he's done a lot of good for the family over the,
years over, many, many many many, years and so they.
HURT i hurt for, them especially knowing that he cared
a great deal about the. Holidays apparently his favorite time
of the year Is, christmas and so you, know it's

(01:02:04):
just kind of one of those especially with for me forty,
five it's creeping up in less than two. Weeks you,
KNOW i am in that headspace right now Where i'm
trying to do my very best to not just live
life to the, fullest but not not ever lose focus

(01:02:29):
of the fact that tomorrow isn't promised to, anyone and
every day that you're able to wake up and experience
a new. Day it truly is a. Blessing and what's
the best version of you you're gonna try to be
for that? Day you, know the act of, kindness all

(01:02:51):
that good, stuff you, KNOW i don't, Know just don't, mind,
man it's kind of being a little sentimental and. Everything but,
yeah that's where my head is at right. Now so
far AS i, know the family is already starting to
make funeral arrangements and all, that and it's, just you,
know there's nothing that sucks, more nothing that is more

(01:03:16):
heartbreaking than when you lose a loved one during the.
Holidays just you, know it. Sucks it really really. Sucks
it really really. Does so you, know and To muhammad
and the, chat like LIKE i, SAID i personally did
not know. Him you, KNOW i never spent, time you

(01:03:39):
know with this. Man LIKE i, said my mother in,
law she's really Hurting tam's's is navigating as best as she.
Can but you, know at this, point it's just for,
me you, know what's really kind of messing my head up.

(01:04:02):
Everybody LIKE i, said it's Just i'm going to turn
forty five in a couple of, weeks and so you,
KNOW i don't expect you all that's in your, twenties,
thirties early, thirties or you, know younger than. THAT i
don't expect you guys to. Understand but just for me
to be creeping up on forty five and knowing about

(01:04:24):
all the people that's passed away That i've seen pass,
away either, firsthand like just in my, face or just
people THAT i grew up, idolizing you know that they
just pass. To just know that mortality is h you.

(01:04:47):
Know don't get me, started Because i'll get all philosophical
on y'all. Asses And i'm not trying to be philosophical
at eleven thirty five at, night but just that's where
my head space is at right. Now so for, ME
i try to spin it as positively AS i. Can
AND i think that's Why i'm kind of living life

(01:05:09):
to the fullest right. NOW i, mean if you guys,
NOTICE i, MEAN i, mean and this isn't me, bragging but,
like if you guys, NOTICE i got my associates in media.
Production Now i'm currently pursuing my bachelors at a different.
University i'm pursuing my bachelor's in, journalism AND i got

(01:05:31):
a week and a half to go of, classes final. Assignments,
luckily the final assignments they're all exam, papers So i'm
going to be doing a lot of. Writing but the
way it's looking right, Now i'm getting like nothing but
a's and all of my classes except for. Government never

(01:05:53):
was a fan of. Government government was ALWAYS i always
slept through government, classes SAYS i was a little runt so.
Government it's looking as Though i'm probably going to be
getting to SEE i can live with. That that's really
no big, deal, RIGHT i can live with. That so,
nice good strong. Start so, hey speaking of you, know good,

(01:06:18):
starts all that good. JAZZ i was trying to figure
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(01:07:03):
Something SINCE i was at community college for a couple of,
years and SINCE i have been at A pwi university this,
SEMESTER i know you're a student as, well SO i do, Remember,
Mohammed but like you ain't got to tell me because
the university THAT i go, to which again is A pwi,

(01:07:24):
university right where the big boys, play all the professors are,
like Use, grammarly like it will help, You like you,
know first of, all do you love the? Right and it's, like,
YES i. Do, okay, well if you love the, right you,
know the first part of the battle was. Done and
then it's like at that, point if you're paying for

(01:07:46):
a grammarly, subscription WHICH i have paid for A grammarly
subscription like for, years for years upon years upon, Years
tams will tell you we must like consecutively for, years
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(01:08:07):
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(01:09:38):
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(01:10:00):
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(01:10:44):
Display i've got the wristbands and all of. THAT i
bought it last year When sena first made the, announcement
he was doing the whole retirement. Tour SO i will
be wearing that for one night. Only it will never
be seen. Again never be seen. Again so just one

(01:11:07):
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(01:11:27):
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