WRESTLING with the TOPICS feat. Lee & Tammy Sanders 11-16-25

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Hey folks, what's going on? November sixteenth, twenty twenty five,
two weeks before Thanksgiving? Yeah, we're already here talking Thanksgiving?
Lee Sanders with you. Join along with as always on

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these shows, The Beautiful and the Lovely Tammy you guys
checking out no new wrestling with the Topics. Hello, Hey,
I hope you guys been good since last time we
were on the air with you guys. Hard to believe, Han,
we are now two weeks away, less than two weeks
away from Thanksgiving. That's just mind blowing?

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yes? Is it mind blowing? Yes?

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yes, yes, I was telling. I was telling it was
off air a few minutes ago. I say, because we
got an Amazon Fresh store that's nearby, and I would
say to her, yo, we gotta go to Amazon Fresh,
because apparently they got this new deal that's going on
right now. They're saying, you can feed five people with

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the Thanksgiving meal for twenty five dollars. So basically they're saying, Hey,
come to us for your cranberry sauce, come to us
for the mac and cheese, come to us for the
green bean castle row, come to us for the biscuits.
And I think they were even advertising a bird, but
I don't want to miss quote. Okay, okay, So, but

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like they basically say, hey, come get all this good
Thanksgiving food and it's for a limited time, but feed
five people and it's twenty five dollars. I'm going, okay, Well,
who doesn't like a good deal, to which Tams was going, well,
you know, you kind of get what you pay for.
The quality might not really be And I told her,

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I said, well wait a minute, I said, so far
says you've been going to Amazon. She's been going to Amazon.
Let's back up a second. So this Amazon Fresh story
that we got, she went there because the original plan
was when it first opened up, we were supposed to
go together. So this has been almost a year somehow, somehow,

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the odds always are not in my favor when it
comes to going to this damn Amazon Fresh. Either I'm
tied up with something, I'm sick. It's like there's always
some weird crap luck that I have. And so she's
just popping up randomly every other week getting some shit

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from Amazon Fresh, and I'm like, oh, I wanted to go,
and she's like, oh, well, you know, next time. You know,
it's like next time. You know, It's like it's kind
of like, hey, if you did your homework and you
at least got to see, I'll take you to chuck
E Cheese. Really, yeah, yeah, Hey, I got a see
that's nice. Are we going to check ea cheese?

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (05:04):
I already went, Sorry, Bud, Maybe next time.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
You know.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's kind of one of those one of those type
of deals right now. And so this go round, I'm like,
after I saw that flyer, I'm like, no, no, no,
I am determined I want to go with you to
this Amazon because I've been hearing nothing but good things
about Amazon Fresh and how you can get these great
prices if you're a Prime member and all this or

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a Prime subscription holder or something like that. Prime member. Okay, good,
I'm like, oh, discounts, Like who doesn't like discounts and
all that.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
So, I mean they're always offering for those of you
who have an Amazon Fresh by you, they're always offering,
you know, spend this amount, get you know, ten dollars off,
which always helps.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Now you know, I'm kind of mad.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
That the last time I went, I literally spent four
times that amount. Wouldn't use two of them. You know,
it's always that one coupon for ordered type deal. But
but generally speaking, so the reason that he said about
Amazon Fresh HM was I had gotten some I was like, oh, well,

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you know, I'll just try this, which is their actual
Amazon I'm Fresh pipeline. You know, every store has their
own pipeline of their own products.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
And so on and so forth.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
So I had gotten some lunch meat from them, and
I was like, oh cool, and apparently it's it's a
rave hit in this house.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
I haven't even gotten to taste it yet, but it's
a rave hit.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
So I said, well that's cool. But you know, he's like,
but I like the lunch meat.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
So uh But generally, guys, really, every time I go there,
I really do actually feel like their prices have come
down a little bit.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Because I am a huge fan of the pure Leaf.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I thought you was about to say, you're a huge
fan of saving money.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Well, I'm definitely a huge fan of for sure, I'm
even more of a huge fan of saving money than
I am. But I'm definitely a comparison price shopper too,
which obviously makes me a huge fan of saving money.

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And from what I'm.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
Seeing on every time I go, it seems like the
prices are comparable, if not lower than all of our
other big box stores that are in the area.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
And guys and girls, this does include and you.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Know, don't fall on the floor because it's this shocking,
but that includes guys Walmart, and that is saying something
in itself.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, yeah, that's definitely saying something in itself. And I mean,
everybody's looking for a good deal right now, especially in
these times we're in when it comes to the whole
inflation and everything. So I mean, but yeah, hopefully you
guys have already done your Thanksgiving and shopping, because I

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promise you, especially having worked in retail the last rodeo
for a hot manhead, I gotta tell you, there is
no worse time in the world. A person and a
child or walking on the pathway. Let's see what that's about.

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I don't know my door bill. Just as there I said,
a person and a child is walking in the uh
in the Uh oh okay, they're just they aren't bothering nobody.
Well was I saying?

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Check? Basically?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the worst time you want
to be doing grocery shopping is definitely the week of Thanksgiving, Like,
if you already don't like being out there in the public,
especially if you're a little bit up there in age,
or maybe you're a little bit concerned about catching a

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cold or whatnot, especially with COVID now running around and everything. Uh,
it's one of those deals where, yeah, that week of Thanksgiving,
that's not for you, especially if you think you're gonna
be uh yeah, oh, I'll just be in and out. No,
the week of Thanksgiving, especially the closer you get to Thanksgiving,

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and you know, having seen it myself for a couple
of years there, I definitely would encourage you guys, because
apparently a lot of people aren't even aware of this,
or maybe they're just that indifferent, or maybe they're just careless.
I don't know what it is. I'm not insulting, but
it's just a point of observation. You do know that

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the people that work in all forms of retail, for
the most part, even they are given an opportunity to
leave work either a little early or their establishment is
closed that day so they can spend time with their family.
I say that to say that sounds good, right, But
I say that to say, you'd be amazed how many

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people are pissed off when they basically procrastinated until the
day of, right like almost literally the day of and go,
oh man, they're closed, but I needed my Cranberry sauce,
I needed my massed potato, I needed mine and have

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the goal to leave a negative review on Yelp and
Google Maps and all that is, Like, whose fault is
it that you freaking procrastinated, dude?

Speaker 5 (11:12):
Like, now what happens is what I have found is
you've you know, you've gotten most of your list, and
you're you're you know, checking that off, or you just
kind of go off memory and so on and so forth,
and lo and behold at you're on the day and
I swear to you, you've forgotten something.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
And I think that's really what it is now.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Grant you, there are people who are procrastinators just generally,
so yes, there there are those.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
But for me, in what I feel is.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
It's time that really should be spent with family if
you can, or serving the community, or something of giving
back and giving thanks. Right, So I really really don't
think stores should be open. You know, I grew up
in a time where stores weren't open on Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
They weren't.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
You if you needed something, you went to seven eleven
and that was you know, very limited, but that was.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
About all you were going to get.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
And generally, you know, in our household, it was always
milk and batteries, whatever the godge it was, and milk
for you know, dinner or to put in dinner one
or the other.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
So generally for us that that pretty much was it.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
But of course, now in the last end of fifteen years,
that that has you know, your your big box stores
are open, like Target, like Giant, like.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Safeway and those.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
You know big box stores in our area are open
generally every Christmas and every well Christmas.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
They're actually you know.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Don't get too into the weeds. Yeah, I was gonna say,
don't get that.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
But yeah, so you know it's for me. That's that's
just my thing on it.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
But yes, please don't procrastinate because as I've seen, or
at least I feel in the last few years, you know,
the stock that's on the shelves isn't exactly what you
remember ten years ago. So if you don't get it early,
then sometimes you're either going to have to go to
like three different stores or you know you're gonna have
to do without it kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, exactly. You know, last time we were on the
air with you again once again, I hope you guys
having a fantastic weekend. Are weekend going pretty good? Sun
is out. I gotta tell you, I had saddled up
the past two nights, hitting the road doing a little
bit of gigwork. I had not done it, like really

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since I started. I started, I say, yeah, yeah, since
I've been going to this PWI University like dawnedoing mean, wow,
I've been going to bid at a decent hour and

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oh I'm starting to pay for it now because I
was out there Friday night going into Saturday and I
was fighting sleep like I don't know what. And that
is the most dangerous type as far as being behind
the wheel goes like you don't want to be in
that position where you're feeling a little tired. Now, normally

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I'm the type of person if I get behind the wheel,
it's like, just just get me behind the wheel, give
me behind the wheel, give me my music. I'm good,
Like seriously, I'm good. I'll get to where I need
to go. I'll suck it up like I'm good. So
Friday night, while I was out there, I got like

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a burst of energy. I guess it was like my
second win. And it lasted me until I would say, maybe, god,
I think it lasted me about three hours. And then
like I won't say that it was a shoosh crash,

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but it was, Yo, it's really time to turn back
around because we don't need to, you know, like okay,
all right. So I listened finally to myself and it
was my body and all that's like okay, I find
And then Saturday night going into this morning, I was

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out there and you know, actually I was more tired
Saturday night than I was Friday night. And I mean
not for nothing. I've been working on a couple of assignments,
doing some studying on that I'm trying to get ready
for a midterm that's coming up for one of my

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classes this coming week. So I said, okay, well, I
really don't want to, like the holidays are here, he's
the extra money. Let me just go ahead and you know,
let me go OHI and let me do this. So
I just decided, well, I'll just play it smart, you know,
I'll just you know, I'll just take it easy, try

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to stay local, and you know it'll be good. So
once again, I made it about I would say three hours,
and I was really I was more tired than I
was the previous night. And then the MAC make matters worse.

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I started having visibility issues where I'm out there on
the road and all of a sudden it started raining.
And our weather I watched the weather last it was
on Friday. They didn't mention anything about rain whatsoever. No
rain in the forecast for the weeought if anything, they

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just said cloudy. That's it. They ain't say nothing about
no chance for show. They ain't say jack. So I'm
out there earlier this morning and it was like somebody
just turned on a faucet and it was just I'm like,
what the hell? And I remember, you know. I came

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across this one person when I was out and I said,
I said, hey, did you watch the news? Did they
even say that we were supposed to get rained? And
they were like, nah, weird, right, I'm like, yeah, it
is weird, Like what the hell? So visibility started getting
really bad and I said, yeah, I'm good. I'll tell you.
I'll tell you. It was a two parter. The first

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part was definitely the visibility, but the second part was
I did this turn. I had a protected turn. I
went on the light. I thought I had enough room
for my turn. I thought I set myself up good.
My back wheel ends up going up on get what
do you call that the median the curb?

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Well, if you're doing a protected turn, yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
That little middle part that's like an island.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Oh no, that's the median.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah. I went up my back well went up on
the median.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Oh boy.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
And then I.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Said, yeah, it's time for me to hit on home
because I can't really see too good out here. So
that that was the end of it. I don't I
don't miss I don't miss doing the gig work. I
gotta be honest, I don't I don't because I'm reminded
of what I went through the past couple of nights,
is like wow. And then you know, because I am

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on a regular sleeping schedule now, I'm used to going
to bed at eleven, ten, eleven, twelve o'clock at night. Now,
that might sound kind of late for some of you guys,
but in the satur's household, that's early. That's early. That's
pretty good, especially if it means I'm getting up at seven, eight,
nine o'clock in the morning, that's like significant progress and

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all that. So yeah, you know, oh, I didn't tell
you well on one thing that was really really just stupid.
You younger drivers out there, you parents that got the
young drivers now and everything, make sure you teach or
if it's you that's doing this, correct this bad behavior.

(19:31):
Please I employ you. I don't care if it's three
in the afternoon or if it's three o'clock in the
morning when you are driving on when you are driving
on a road, I don't care if the speed limit
is forty, fifty or sixty. But if it is a

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single lane, meaning you know it's a single lane right,
traffic is going in one direction, there is no reason
for you to try to jump in front of the
car that's ahead of you. Now, if you are on

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a two way street, but traffic is going in both
directions because of that solid long line, there's no breaking.
I don't care how comfortable you're like, oh hey, I
can just go on ahead, and I'm just gonna blaze
past this other car because I know I can go

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much quicker than them. Please don't do that. Don't do that.
I saw two things that were very disturbing last night.
I saw two things that were very disturbing last night.
First of all, I was going about maybe fifty miles
an hour, didn't rain yet. I was probably like my
first hour out there on the road, and I'm going,

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what the hell looking out of my rear view and
now I'm like what the hell? Like hmmm, nah, And
it's like, you know, it's like one o'clock in the morning,
and I'm going, nah, no, I'm seeing shit. And then
I signaled my intent to turn, and I'm getting ready
to turn, and I'm like, nah, I'm not crazy. At

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one o'clock in the morning, mofolk didn't have his lights on.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
So I so just imagined going fifty plus miles an
hour and you got a car I ain't got no
lights on. Oh that's a bad accident waiting to happen.
So I purposely slowed my car down and stayed in
my lane. I waited till he drove pass, or they
drove pass, and then I got immediately behind them, and

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I kept flashing my lights to kind of let him know,
you know, right, and he peeped it out, or they
peeped it out, they turned their lights on. I'm like, okay, cool.
So going back to what I initially said. So then
later on, I'm on this joint where you can go
like you can go about fifty five miles an hour

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or two about sixty two a traffic obviously right, but
there's no breaking you can't jump in the other lane
at all. So I'm going sixty. I bs you not.
This car just it just comes out of nowhere, like
I'm out there on the road. You know, life is
a highway. I want to drive it all night long.

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I'm just kicking back.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
I'm just.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
The next thing. I know, where the hell did you
come from? Like all of a sudden, and this dude,
this was the first time as long as I have
been a driver, and I've been a driver now what
two plus years. I've been a driver now two plus years.
This was the first you know me, I'm Joe Cool
TAM's and anybody that rides with me will tell you.

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I mean they be seeing like ah Lee, look out
and it's like, what's the problem, Like seriously, what's what's
the problem. I just see it like you were like,
I got it. Chill right, I am Joe Cool. Okay,
I blew out a tire recently. I was Joe Cool.
I was like the middle of the freeway. I blew
a tire. I was Joe Cool. Oh, blew a tire.

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All right, let's see what's going on. Right, I'm Joe Cool.
First time ever, not exaggerating last night that I was
concerned for my safety and well being because this car
act like they were gonna ram into me and get
me off the road.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
And instead what they ended up doing, they you know,
they were riding me, riding me, riding me, and then
they decided and this was all like within the span
of like fifteen seconds. And then they decided about ten
seconds in they're literally about to bump into me, like
we're in me. They decide, Okay, I'm gonna jump in

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front of this car and then jump to the next lane,
which you cannot do because there's no breakage at all,
and then cut in front of me.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
So I see this car do its thing, and I
just go, okay, let me just ease up off the pedal,
let me go right to the break joint, you know,
the brake pad. And I'm thinking, please Lord, you know,
just and luckily my prayers were answered, and it was
just yeah, yeah, yeah, it just it kind of shook me.

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Very seldom I am shook behind. This was a first.
This was definitely a first. I was gonna say very
rare that, but no, like, this was the first that
I was actually kind of kind of spooked.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
Right, So yesterday I had to do a bit of
drive myself. I had, you know, to go visit a friend.
So and this particular person lives.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
To get to where you need to be.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
They live in absolutely suburbia, like not even you know,
whole cluster of houses kind of thing. It's pretty much
a two lane road with the you know, double lines
in the middle. So I I was on four ninety
five and then there was a few things where I

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was like, yeah, that was stupid, you know, and very dangerous.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
And I was like, okay, you know, have you. Then
I get to the two.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
Lane road obviously one one lane going you know, one way,
one lane going the opposite direction. So it was a
car in front of me, me and then the behind me,
and this car was just so pressed to get from

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out from behind me and this other car. The other
car wasn't exactly you know, doing anything, and you know,
any speeding, have you? So he crosses the double lines
and now mind you, probably about five hundred feet maybe
maybe eight hundred feet, there's a big truck coming. Well,

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this man decides, to a woman I don't know who
it was, decides to get out from under behind me,
cross the double lines into the oncoming traffic of where
the truck is coming. Not only does he not get
in out from under me and then gets behind the

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car in front of me, No, he surpasses me on
the other car to then quickly get back over into
the respected lane while the truck literally is still coming.
And when I say quickly, it was going to be,
oh crap, I'm going to be smashed. So and I said,

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my goodness, you know, there's one thing, one thing to
take a chance, but there's so many chances that people
take that they're not you know, as all of us
as drivers, you have to learn and judge your distance

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and your time. And there's a lot of people I
feel that are making an emotional response decision and not
judging the distance and the time. And I saw at
least three for instance, that was just one. I saw

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three for instances yesterday on my trip to and from
that was like, this is crazy, this is absolutely crazy.

Speaker 6 (28:20):
It just got me.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
It just got me wondering, like, you know, the different
type of people that's out there on the road. And
you know, I've always been a firm believer that unless
you are working late night, you probably are up to
no good. Maybe you might be, you know, doing some Okay,

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let me just let me clean it up just a
little bit more, because it's kind of really lay it
out there where my mindset is, unless you're doing some
type of late night gigwork, or maybe you're doing some
type of traveling to see a friend or family. You know,
you're you're traveling between states or whatever. Okay, like that's okay, cool.

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Maybe you're coming home from an event or something you know,
being with friends. Unless you're doing one of those things
late night, you're probably up. Why are you on the road,
you're probably up to no damn good. Nine times out
of ten you're probably intoxicated. You probably are under the influence. Look,

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you know something that's become real popular besides all that
type of reckless driving. Look at what's happening with the
mofos that love seeing that traffic. Well they don't love
that traffic is backed up, but when they see that
traffic is backed up, they decide, like a holes to
use the emergency lanes. Yeah, they ride the shoulder. They

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just ride that out thinking, oh, I'm gonna get to
where I need to go to hell with and then
they're crying afterwards when the police catches stuff because it
is illegal to do so. It's just reckless. Man. Just
please people, especially during these holidays, just try to be
try to be smarter and definitely more safer. Your car

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might be able to do, you know, your car might
be able to go from zero to thirty miles per
hour in like five seconds. Like that's great, that that's
really really great. But if you're not going to have
the patients and the candor to be out there. You know,

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as TAM's always said to me when she was first
teaching me how to drive, you know, she was like,
you're not just driving for yourself, You're driving for others.
And if you can't have that patience, if you can't
have that mindset, please let somebody else do the driving.
Don't do the driving, Like, figure out some other way

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to get yourself where you need to go, or at
least put yourself in a position where you could be
in a better headstate where you can think more clearly.
Because to your point, you know, there are a lot
of us we do drive with emotion, you know, whether
we want to admit that or not, a lot of
us do drive with emotion. Speaking of emotion, emotions definitely

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had been felt for forty three years, as US forty
three years, that'd be something no. Forty three days as
the government shutdown finally came to an end, and the
bill extends funding for most federal agencies at FY twenty

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twenty five levels through January thirty of next year twenty
twenty six. For three specific areas United States Department of Agriculture,
Food and Drug Administration, and the Legislative Branch United States
Department of Veteran Affairs, and Military Construction. The bill provides
a full year FY twenty twenty six funding. Also guarantees

(32:05):
retroactive pay for furloughed federal employees and those who worked
without pay during the shutdown. So I'm looking at you
federal workers for sure. I'm looking at you everybody involved
working at the TSA, like we need you guys, because yeah, yeah,
because I was a rough forty three to eighty yeah yeah.

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It also reverses layoff notices issued during the shutdown period
for federal agencies and prohibits new reductions and force up
to January thirty of twenty twenty six. The deal includes
a promise but and I really want to stress this
because this is where it's like, this is where the

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Democrats and I get why people are upset. You know,
we had eight Democrats that basically defected over to the Republicans.
Some of these Democrats were very consistent in their voting.
Some were just like, we just need to get this open.
This isn't fair to the Americans. But then you had

(33:11):
others that we're talking a really good game. Hell no,
stick into the Republicans, hell no. And then all of
a sudden, they different mind, said you know, girl, you
need the change of my little DiAngelo saw. And then

(33:32):
when they're confronted, you know, why did they change their mind?
It's like now, like it's just bipolar moment. Basically, the
deal includes a promise this is what the Democrats really
want to trust this, this is what the Democrats. We're
trying to do here. We told you guys for weeks
with the Democrats, because even TAM's kind of fell into

(33:54):
the trap where she was like, ah, you know, the Republicans,
what the hell, and I'm like no, no, no, no, no,
like understand something. The Democrats there were some stuff that
went down basically, you know, nice, pretty little, not to
bore you guys, just to kind of spoon feed you. Healthcare.
There were some issues that they had concerning healthcare, and
they were hitting up the Republicans going this needs to change,

(34:16):
this needs to change, this needs to change. And the
Republicans basically were like, yo, we got the House and
the Senate, we already voted on this, no can do
Like now if you want to maybe bring up something
new that wasn't covered in what we voted for, like
we're down with that but you're regurgitating stuff that was

(34:39):
already voted on, so that's not gonna work. But Democrats,
they were doing this weird thing where you know, no,
we want this provision, we want this, we want this.
So as part of the deal, this is what the
Democrats got, a promise but not a guarantee, of a

(35:01):
future vote in December on extending the Enhanced Affordable Care
Act premium text credits, though the bill does not extend
them right now. So that would be like me saying

(35:22):
I promise you I'm gonna take you to chuck e Cheese.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Ain't nobody ever said wins right. That could be in
thirty years from.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Now, So why does this matter, folks? So this gave
Congress more time until January thirtieth to work out the
rest of the annual budget instead of shutting the government
down again immediately. This also protects several key programs which
we already highlighted, and it basically sent the signal, you know,

(35:56):
if in case you're not really paying attention, we're funding
the government right now, but we still have some unresolved
issues right So that's basically it in a nutshell. So
I mean it's good, But then it's kind of bad.
And I know that for a lot of federal employees
they did not like this. They understood what was going on,

(36:17):
and for a lot of federal employees they were like, well, okay,
then maybe this is the change that needs to happen. Okay,
like do whatever you need to do, like I need
my paycheck. But at the same time, Okay, if there's good,
there's gonna be some good that's gonna come from out
of this. Okay, fine, I understand. You talk to people
that are on snap benefits and when they were affected

(36:41):
by this, you know, they were pretty pissed off, but
even they were going, well, if something good can come
out of this, then you know what, it's all worth it.
And to basically just get.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Ah, well, you know, we didn't resolve anything really well.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
We did a little something, but this little promise thing.
You know that's like daddy, daddy, daddy, will you take
a look at my homework? I guess sure, sure when
I don't know, hun, but I promise I'll look at
your homework. Run along, now, go play.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
So for anybody who for anybody who doesn't, no, I
guess Leigh Sanders before UMD and MC that was one
of his promises.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm going to do it. Oh yeah,
i'd have been great for politics.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Three weeks later, it's still in the same spot, or
we still haven't.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Done whatever it was. So yeah, So speaking of Snap benefits,
let's let's talk about that, because Snap benefits people, they
have been affected and by this as well, Oh you

(38:20):
wanted to say something else.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
About about Snap benefits or about.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
No the situation, because it looked like you were getting
ready to say something else.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
So it's I'm really, really, really glad that all of
the American people are not are not being affected anymore
by a government shutdown because Washington wants to play politics.
Because there's so many people that were affected, and there

(38:52):
were so many people that you know, law you know,
lost things that it was like, okay, well, I mean
that's good for y'all, but really, you don't, you don't.
And it was almost for some people it's like, oh, yeah,
well I don't give a shit about us, and and

(39:12):
and there was a lot of people who felt that way.
And that's you know, these people are supposed to be
working for the American people.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
And you literally are like, yeah, I don't care. Yeah,
that's pretty much the way it seemed.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, I was alluding to the SNAP benefits earlier. I
can't imagine the frustration that a lot of the people
that have SNAP benefits are going through right now because
the USDA under Trump has announced that everyone receiving SNAP

(39:51):
will have to reapply or reverify their eligibility. Yeah, I
remember that was specifically in an interview. Brook Rawlins, Agriculture
Secretary said the plan is to have everyone reapply for
their benefits, make sure that everyone's that's taking a taxpayer

(40:13):
funded benefit through food stamps that they literally are vulnerable
and can't survive without it, And the administration frames this
move as part of a crackdown on fraud and unnecessary
benefit roles. Now, what remains unclear right now, they've not
provided full details on how the re application process will

(40:35):
work when it begins, exactly who will have to do it,
and what the forms will look like. Some are arguing
that there's going to be a ton of recipients that
already must recertify periodically every six to twelve months under
state rules, so now the announcement might be amplifying what's

(40:58):
already in place, rather than a completely new requirement. So
if you or someone you know is impacted by the
SNAP benefits, you know you want to keep an eye
out for official notices from your state's human services social
service departments because it seems like there's definitely going to

(41:22):
be an issuing of new forms. And you also want
to make sure that your income, your household size, your
work status, all that is up to date, because that
tends to be what the USDA is emphasizing right now.
And then also understand that even though the federal announcement,
I mean, this is some huge news that you're hearing,

(41:42):
the actual process that is to come, keep in mind
it's going to differ state to state because every single
state is going to be able to address this within
their own discretion basically to a certain extent, right to

(42:05):
a certain extent. So usually from what I've been learning
in government, usually let's say, let's say there.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Is this.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
I'm trying to break it down in layman's terms. Let's
say you're the state of Illinois and basically there's X
amount of money that could be coming your way, so
you could do what you need to do with maybe infrastructure,
or maybe what you need to do with just think
of whatever and basically, I can't remember if it's the

(42:45):
I can't remember if it's the House or if it's
like Congress in general. But basically, you'll get some scenarios
where Okay, Illinois, here's this money, no strings attached, do
with it what you need to do for you know,
your infrastructure, for your DA da da da. And then
there will be situations where Okay, Illinois, here's this money,

(43:10):
but but you gotta do this first, and once you
meet these conditions, then we'll give you the money. So
I just hope that with this current administration, it's not
going to be a case where no, no, no, you
must comply with how we're trying to do these snap
benefits reapplying, or we're gonna hold X amount of money hostage.

(43:34):
Because we've seen this administration. Yeah, we've seen them essentially
do this already.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
You know.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
It's interesting. I'm reminded of a report that I had
saw in my journalism class a couple of weeks ago,
where we were looking at the way the main topic
was framing and we're all about framing, and we were
shown two different reports. We were shown one report where

(44:05):
a news reporter went under investigation undercover investigation to exploit
these restaurants that were continuing to have health violation after
health violation, and there were people employees in the back
that were eating their food, you know, sucking on their
fingers and all that, and they were preparing customers' foods

(44:30):
with those same hands, not washing them and all that.
And if you didn't see that, you had employees that,
like I remember seeing this one clip in this it
was like a five minute segment that they did. They
had this one employee who was making a salad looked
like a chicken Caesar salad for a customer. So he's

(44:52):
taking the meat, the chicken meat, he's eating some of it,
sucking on his fingertips, and then going back in for
the chicken with his hands and then pouring it on
the plate for the custom I mean, this is all
this disgusting crap that just kept going down and at
the very end of it, and it was really cool

(45:14):
how ultimately the news organization, how they ultimately confronted the
owners of these restaurants that they were investigating. I mean,
they were freaking embarrassed, and obviously they didn't want to
give any interviews because they knew what time it was
and you know, they did get shut down and all

(45:36):
of that. And we were asked, hey, this was this
good framing? Was this good reporting? And we're like, yeah,
that's that's good reporting because and then the way that
we had to think about this, it was like, okay,
so what were the positives of how this investigation was
done that justifies why the reporters did what they needed

(45:59):
to do. First of all, was the reporter justified for
going undercover? And we're like yeah, because they basically heighten
and show that there is a legit health concern that's
out there and everything. I didn't lose track of the
main topic. People stay with me here because it connects.

(46:20):
We then were shown a segment where there was this
reporter that was going on Craigslists finding people that were
selling their food stamps. Okay, okay, you see how it
ties back now people, So you know, and the way

(46:42):
this reporter had essentially set up the framing for this story,
it was basically, hey, your tax dollars, which is supposed
to go to the needy, you know, people that need
food stamps and all that, Well, it's a different friend story.
You know, you've got people that are selling their food

(47:04):
stamps and exploiting the system all on your tax dollar.
And so he goes on Craigslist. He finds this woman
that's selling her food stamp card and she's like, you know,
he goes through the whole and it just freaking comes
off so oversensational lies, you know, because they got him

(47:26):
calling and and he's like, hey, this is Jeff. You're
selling the food stamps the food stamp card there. Yeah, yeah,
I'm interested. And she's like, okay, well, you know my
cards got like my card's got like eighty dollars on it,
so you know, you can buy yourself bread, you know, vegetables,

(47:47):
you know whatever. And he's like okay, and how much
cash do you do you want? How much cash are
you asking for?

Speaker 6 (47:54):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (47:54):
I only want thirty dollars And it's like and so
him and camera guy, you know, they're doing like this
fake me out ass sting operation where the guy's in
a van and you know, and he's recording and all that,
and they have the decoy person come and meet the

(48:15):
husband and the wife, and then the reporter runs out
of the van with his microphone. Jeff, did you minb
cev Old Pittsburgh News, what are you doing?

Speaker 6 (48:28):
And you know, like, what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (48:30):
What am I doing? Like you know it's illegal to
be selling your food stamp card and and he was
just sensationalizing like that. And myself and my group of classmates,
you know, we were acts afterwards by our professor. Okay,
so what did you think about this, uh, this report?
And we were like, no, this was bad, Like this

(48:52):
was just all about entertainment. That's really what this was,
you know. And then wait, we're going to make this
blanket argument. Stay with me. Hopefully if you guys stayed
have stayed with me. You see how this connects back
to what we just were talked about the main theme here.
But it's like wait a minute, and we all said

(49:13):
the same thing, like we're really going to say that
because of like two or three or four people that
are selling their food stamp cards and for some cash
and all and all that, you know, giving you the
access to their pens, you can do what you need
to do all it. Like, we're going to say that
because of these people, they basically are, uh, are the

(49:38):
problem with the Snap benefits program as a whole. We're
going to say that all people that are on Snap benefits.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Don't need any don't need it, and are essentially using
it for cash problems.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Right, So I promise you the President and his administration,
I promise you two things that are true. They were
looking at reports like that, and you know, let's be real.
Let's be real. This administration is the same administration. Oh look,

(50:14):
you know, look, look at these homeless people. Disgusting. Get
rid of them, Lock them up. I don't want to
see them anywhere near the White House. So that tells
you all you need to know about.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
Right, it's not for this administration, and it's absolutely about
making them not appear in the line sight because that
doesn't fit his demographic number one number two.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Do snap benefits need to be overhauled?

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Yeah, they do, they do, they do.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
There's no there's no qualms about that at all. There
are people absolutely taking advantage of the system.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
That's fact.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
That is fact.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
There are absolutely people that are.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
Listen as the person at this point in time who
pays majority of the bills and buys majority of the food.
Because I'm wanting better for us in the long run.
These prices out here ain't no joke as far as
food and everything else, but food especially.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
I kid you, not guys.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
On a monthly basis, I'm spending anywhere from three to
six hundred, six to seven hundred a month on food
and guys, being fully transparent, that's literally for the two
of us, and maybe you know some you know a
company that comes over every now and then, and our

(51:55):
three for daughters is six to seven hundred a month.
So that being said, there are probably a heck of
a lot more people who need more help now than
say they did you know, two, three, four years ago.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
So that's you know, said thing number one.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
But really it's more about, yes, does the program need
to be overhauled. But it's exactly like what this administration
has done with everything else. Instead of trying to fix it,
they just either cut it and do away with it
or do something else that never fixes the problem.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Never.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
And it's like, okay, well, you know, if you want
to reform it, make it better, great, fantastic, But I
don't know that reapplication and all of this other jumping
through hoops and so on and so forth, that's truly
the answer.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
I don't know. I'm with you, I agree with you.
It's a very delicate and slippery slope to be going down.
Do I have faith that the right people will be exploited?
I do, I do, But I also feel like there's

(53:26):
going to be quite a few casualties that ye are
doing it right. And you know, now look full transparency here.
I know some people, you know, they want to be
like yo, man, it's messed up with this current administration
is doing messing around with people, you know, with the
snap benefits and all that. La la la la. Look,

(53:46):
I will throw my own mother, who I have not
spoken to in a couple of decades, I will throw
her ass under the bus because I just I've seen
it with my own two eyes, and her and her
friends they would be exploiting hell out of food stamps
snap benefits. So you're talking to somebody that like, look,

(54:07):
let me tell you something. I'm gonna keep it on
the real with y'all. I'm gonna keep it on the
real with y'all. I should have brought this up more
too during during the conversation that we had in class,
but for some reason it didn't present itself, maybe because
it was a case where we were more focused on
just analyzing the situation at hand and not making it
be about us and our experiences, but just I can

(54:31):
remember growing up and no pull. One of the main
reasons why my mother did not marry my dad was
because she wasn't trying to lose her food stamp benefits.
She figured that no, no, no, no no, if we
can just continue to have that come in and I

(54:51):
can continue to have you know, my dad work and
then combine you know, their money, that because like I remember,
I was right here on this show a couple of
weeks ago. I can remember when it was a grocery
shop in time. You know, we would do this definitely
once a month, every month, guaranteed, we would take her

(55:17):
food stamps like like like literally like almost all her
food stamps. When she was doing it right, utilizing it right,
she would take all her food stamps. And I couldn't
even tell you how much it was back then in
the eighties. I mean, if I were to speculate, my god, please,
I used to know the number, but now I don't.

(55:38):
But I know, I know it was a nice little
one out. I definitely know it was. If I had
to educated guests, maybe two hundred maybe maybe possibly three
hundred maybe yeah maybe maybe well hang on, hang on.
So she would take that, and when my dad was

(55:58):
working at serious Tower, he would, you know, he'd get
his paycheck, you know, every other week. And so, man,
you're talking about basically like two to three hundred dollars
in food stamps, and then my dad's throwing on top
of that, like about two three hundred dollars. We had food.

(56:19):
We were fucking set.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
We had.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Look, we had so much groceries, I can't remember. I
would have a cart, my mom would have a cart,
my dad would have two carts, and there would usually
be a fifth cart that we would leave with the
cashier until we loaded what we needed to load up.

(56:44):
Then we would go for that fifth cart. So we
were typically always pushing four to five carts were worth
of food. We had to do two trips with my
dad's Cadillac. We'd have to do two trips. Luckily, we
lived like about ten minutes away from the grocery store jewels,
and we would I remember, I'd hop somehow I'd be

(57:06):
buried under a sea of groceries in the car, and
then me and my dad we would unload and then
we'd go back and pick up my mom and the
rest of the groceries. We would do it like that.
So I've seen when it's done right, when you're you know, okay,
you're using the food stamps for what you're supposed to

(57:26):
be using it for. But at the same time, I've
also seen the exploitation of loopholes where oh, they were
able to do all this.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
You know.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Oh, now I know why my dad really didn't have
stuff in the closet, because back then we would have
people that would come by, you know, for my mom.
You know, oh you gotta make sure you know, single parent,
ha ha ha, all that other stuff. And then I
can also remember when my mom started selling her food

(57:55):
stamp books, you know, and her and her friends they would,
you know, they be doing it, and it's like, wait
the hell, Like, that's not what it's for you, You're
supposed to like, what the hell? So yeah, I am
all fine, And then the thing that also irritates me,
and I'm glad that things have kind of changed a
little bit now compared the way back then with a

(58:17):
mofo back in the day, they used to just go
all right, well, I'm getting my food stamp, so I'm
getting help from the government. I don't need to do
nothing else. And you know, I'm set for the rest
of my life.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
And and remember we were of the generation where, oh,
just have another kid, your food stamps amount, you know,
your benefits, and it'll go up, it'll go up. And
the government kind of called onto that took them a minute,
but they kind of called on to the They were like, no, no, no,
we're gonna put the curbs up on that, you know.
So I don't mind them when the system is done right,

(58:53):
I don't mind it when Okay, we need to tweak this,
we need to get rid of some bad apples. Because
I've seen and I know you've got your own stories.
I've definitely seen it firsthand. So I'm definitely four. Yeah,
do what you need to do, because there are more fos.
Like I said, I will throw my home mother under
the bus. Don't give a fuck. It's the truth. Yeah,
people like her, yes, exploit well, the.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Thing is, you know. But also going back in that timeline,
food wasn't anywhere near as expensive as it is now.
No anywhere, no.

Speaker 5 (59:31):
Like I remember there one time me and my mom
and dad went to food line near the near our
current house at that time, and that was about thirty
minutes away. But food was you know, a little bit
cheaper there, and so on and so forth. So and

(59:51):
I definitely remember.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
The carts. We had two carts.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
And they were both filled to the brim and and
that at that time, and that was probably late eighties,
and it was definitely it was two hundred dollars, but
we had two carts that were literally about to overflow.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
And I thought that I had like God and gone
to heaven because I had everything I wanted. I mean,
like everything I could think of was in that cart
and just fun times. But it referenced to that, But
that wasn't about SNAP.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
That was just you know, too hard working parents that
you know provided but but still in reference to you know,
there are people who who do exploit, but then there
are many families that are doing it right too because
they just need that little extra help, you know, you know,

(01:00:51):
maybe they're not on anything else but SNAP, and it's
like okay, well you know, but but yeah, it's it's
a definitely yeah, it's a definite source of contention for
a lot of people at this very moment.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
It is it is, you know, speaking of news and
stories and all that. I said, I was going to
talk about this just a little bit more here on
the show. So I've been working on this deep fake
AI story for one of my classes as part of

(01:01:27):
a media participation project, and I got to tell you, guys,
it's been a interesting experience because so for this media
participation project, we had a couple of options. One of
the options was we could either work with our local
campus radio station. I didn't want to do that because

(01:01:48):
I felt, well, I'm still pretty fresh off of that
that whole knowledge. If I need to go to that,
I can go to that at any time. I'm good.
Then the other option was shadow a journalist. I was like, ooh,
so I actually, you know, hit up somebody that I
had met at a FaceTime with the pros event, you

(01:02:12):
got to basically go, you know, face to face with
a lot of the local news anchors, reporters, news directors, producers.
They got workshops. All that's really really cool, really cool
thing definitely up my alley since I'm trying to get

(01:02:34):
my bachelor's in journalism now and everything. And I I
tried to one of the people that I ended up
befriending at this workshop just happens to be seen weekly
on our local NBC for Washington, d C. Station, and

(01:02:56):
so I hit her up with an email and I said, hey,
I'd be very interested in if you know, you could
be my mentor and all that. You know, I definitely
need one out of and she was like, yeah, sure,
no problem. So she was the first person I thought
about when it came to the media Participation project. I
hit her up. I didn't get anything. I'm like, then

(01:03:19):
I see some stuff that had happened with her in
the news, and I'm going, oh, well, I'm not really
sure after this I really want to have her as
a mentor. It basically, there was a story that she
reported and it blew up in her face big time
on social media. I mean it blew up big time.
It was really really bad. How bad was it? It
was so bad that now she rarely posts on social media.

(01:03:44):
I just said, that's a she sorry about that, but
that's about all you're going to get from me. That's
all you're going to get from You might be able
to figure out now who it is, but that's that's
all the information you're going to get out of me.
But yeah, that story had blew up big time. So
then I was like, oh, well, you know, I was
thinking about our Fox five WTTG news station affiliate out here.

(01:04:07):
I said, oh, you know, there's this one reporter, like
I've loved their work for years. Let me hit them
up and see. And I got a reply from them promptly.
They loved the idea. They ran it by their bosses though,
and basically it was a whole liability thing I'm going.
So then I looked at another option, which was work

(01:04:30):
with a campus newspaper. I said, oh okay, cool, yeah,
let me you know, and they gave me a list
of like here's all the station, here's all the campus
outlets that's available to work with for this project. You know,
all of them, you know, ties here to the university.
You know, all their main basis of operations are here

(01:04:52):
on campus. So like there you go, like, oh okay, cool.
I didn't want to go for the obvious one, which
is the I'm in back, because I just felt everybody
in name Mama was going to go flock to that one.
So I decided to go, you know, check somebody else out.
And I got to tell you a very interesting experience

(01:05:12):
as somebody that you know, it's funny because it's funny,
not funny. I remember my professor and one of my
journalism classes, he had asked us, what do you all
want in a newsroom? You know, it was interesting to
hear everybody's different responses. I know, I jumped in on that,

(01:05:35):
and one of the things that I had said was accountability,
and he was like elaborate on that. I said, well,
you know, if I'm putting some type of live reporting
of a story out there, and I told him what
had happened with a reporter out here by the name
of John Almost. John Almost was covering the decision twenty

(01:05:58):
twenty five races out here for governor lieutenant governor and
what's the guy's name. What's the guy's name, the lou
the new lieutenant governor that Jay something he basically had
said in a text message put uh, put a couple

(01:06:20):
of bullets and whatever. Oh yeah. So when they went
to John Almost for his report to find out, you know,
because this was this was election decision night. So when
they went to John Almost to basically, uh, hear his

(01:06:41):
report and you know, the reaction to him winning and
all this other stuff. John Almost he misspoke on that
whole text message situation, and like five minutes after they

(01:07:01):
took a commercial break, they came back, they did like
one or two more quick stories, and then they were
very quick to point out, you know, hey, we just
want to make a correction that our reporter John Almost
had said about da da da da da. It wasn't
it wasn't a case of X y Z you know,
it was actually and I had relayed that to my

(01:07:23):
professor in the classroom. I said, I said, no accountability.
If I mess up, you know, somebody that's there to
kind of help, you know, because it's not my intent
to drop the ball and mess up. But I also
want to make sure that for accuracy, we're giving the
viewers the correct information. We don't need to be misleading

(01:07:46):
them in any capacity. And when I when I think
about what I want in a newsroom, that definitely was
like one of the things that was just screaming to me.
So it was interesting working with this one campus, this
one news campus outlet, because they are very short staffed,

(01:08:10):
very very understaffed. They must have like I would say,
four to maybe six people that work for them. And
I say that to say, you know, I came up
with this really good story. I made my pitch to
the editor and the editor was like, oh, go for it. Yeah, go, hey,

(01:08:33):
do you think And he was like, have you ever
done this type of work before? I said, no, you know,
not to this extent. No, Like I did some stuff
many many, many many years ago, you know, maybe for
my high school newspaper. I was just basically given a
review for latest round of comic books I read or whatever,

(01:08:53):
but I've never done anything to this extent. We agreed
on a deadline that I would have this piece ready
to go, gave my editor my article. I then said, hey,
I'd appreciate you checking it out. Let me know about

(01:09:16):
any revisions, like anything that needs to be worked on,
to which they hit me back and they said, oh, well,
you know, we give priority to our paid writers, but
you'll be able to check out the status of your
article by checking out this link. And it was kind
of like a Domino's Pizza tracker kind of link. It's

(01:09:39):
kind of funny the way they got it set up
and everything. So I'm like, okay, all right, cool, see
I'll check your article out when I can. I'm like, okay, cool.
I didn't think it was going to take him twenty
days to get back to me, so this was insane.
Stay with me, here because it's the main reason why
I'm I'm bringing this up and everything. So, yeah, twenty

(01:10:05):
days go by, and so literally the project was due.
Wasn't the project due earlier this week? I'm pretty sure
the project the project was due I think tuesday, either
Tuesday or Wednesday of this week this week.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
I feel like it was this Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
I feel like that as well. Yeah, so I know
it was due Wednesday. It was due Wednesday, but I
turned it in Tuesday. Yeah, got back to you Tuesday night, right,
So I ended up this past Tuesday, a couple of
days ago, Tuesday afternoon, I'm like, okay, this project is
due in like less than twenty four hours. Let me

(01:10:43):
go ahead, just finalize this, turn it in. And I
just gave my professor a heads up on you know, hey, look,
I came across this roadblock, I came across this, I
came across that, came across this. This is what went down.
I basically was letting him though I'm not making any excuses.
I'm just letting you know this is what I dealt with.

(01:11:04):
But I also told him from a learning perspective, yo,
I came out of it. You know, as far as
what I want in a future newsroom that I want
to work for, Like, this is what I don't want.
And he sent me a heartfelt email letting me know.
Basically he hears me, don't worry like I'm not going

(01:11:26):
to be penalized for because basically, as far as he's concerned,
those are elements out of my control, absolutely right. And
so before I went to bed Tuesday night, I finally
get this email from the editor and the editor is like, oh,
you know this is wrong. This is wrong, this is wrong,

(01:11:50):
this is wrong, and you want to look at this
and you want to look at it. And I'm thinking
to myself, dude, where were you twenty days ago?

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Right, where were you?

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
You know when it counted the most, Like if you
would have at least hit me up a week prior.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
You could have probably made those corrections.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
And resubmitted it. And then you know, cause my goal
was to get the article published, right, That's why I'm
tripping over this. I wanted to get the article published.
I mean, the experience is great, don't get me wrong
with iicing on the cake if I can get the
article published. And so he was like, oh, you know,

(01:12:30):
if you want to work on this no, no matter
of fact. He was like, yeah, work on this and
then just send it back. And I'm thinking to myself, dude,
I'm getting ready to go in the finals, right. So
I sat up a nice email and I said, you know, hey,
I you know, I really appreciate I stayed faced. I
was like, I appreciate the feedback.

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Obviously I didn't because I didn't even bother really looking
at what this guy had to say. I was already
dismissive at that point because it was like, dude, you're late,
already turned thing in. I turned it in at like
ten o'clock in the morning, and you're now hitting me
up at ten o'clock at night telling me this is
what I need to work on, and my project is
due the next day. Like this doesn't help me, so

(01:13:13):
now silver lining. So my professor ends up grading it,
and it's like night and day. My professor ends up
giving me the maximum points allowed. So I got twenty
five out of twenty five for the assignment, and my
professor is like, yeah, you know, I'm paraphrasing, but my
professor is like, yeah, you did go through you did

(01:13:37):
go through a lot of crap dealing with this article,
no doubt about it. Like, but you're writing, you know
where you are, you got the gift, Like just keep
at it and honestly, if you you know, if you

(01:13:57):
want to be in this industry doing this type of writing,
like you're going to excel very well. And so that
was really gratifying for me because you know, it was
one of those deals where well, you read it and
you even said yourself, you know, hey, it's it's a
good article. Well, I'll let Tabs tell you because I've

(01:14:20):
been talking long enough.

Speaker 5 (01:14:21):
So in the gist of the article, basically, the article
was about deep fakes.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
And kind of the.

Speaker 5 (01:14:37):
I guess in this literal form, basically about how that affects,
you know, one's persona as you know, you have things
of wrestlers who essentially are in videos saying things they
never said, and you know that type of thing. So
and really it got into the logistics of the legal

(01:15:01):
aspect of it and how that would affect the person's
persona character and what have you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
I found it as a very interesting read and things
I didn't know before. I will tell you. The format
of the layout was great, easy to follow, so so
on and so forth.

Speaker 5 (01:15:21):
Everything that one would look for in an article, and
for most people this wouldn't necessarily be a compliment. But
if you can get my attention after I've worked at
thirteen hour day and keep me up to read anything

(01:15:47):
is a huge compliment, because generally, if I am laying
down and I'm getting ready to go to bed, most
likely I'm going to fall asleep on whatever it is
I'm reading. But the article was engaging, it was informative,
it was well laid out, well written. I enjoyed it thoroughly.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
So it was like, so, so here we have three
different perspectives. Really hold in on that we just heard
from TAM's. I gave you the perspective of my professor,
and then the perspective of the editor, you know, which,
by the way, the editor was trying to have me

(01:16:33):
go more into a black direction because his whole thing was, Hey,
our audience is black, and I'm thinking to myself, you know,
and just it was a weird That was the other
thing that I was like, Okay, that's not something that

(01:16:53):
I want to deal with in the newsroom. Now what
do I mean by that? You know, because I can
hear you guys, go, what do you mean by that, lee,
I don't want to just back myself into a corner
where I'm only singling out a specific race. That's not
what I want for potential readers. That's not what I

(01:17:14):
want for potential folks that's going to be consuming the
type of media work that I that I'm trying to
put out there, I want for everybody. I don't care
if you're black. I don't care if you're white. I
don't care if you're straight. I don't care if you're
gay or you're trans. I don't care about your political affiliation.

(01:17:36):
I only got one question. Do you do you like
to read? Like? You know, do you like news? Okay,
well try just tell me what you think.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Like, you know, that's like the one common ground, right,
you know, it's for if knowledge is power, Right, So
that's all I care about. When we start doing these
boxed in kind of kind of deal, that's where it
gets really, really really tricky.

Speaker 5 (01:18:04):
But the thing with that is is you know, kind
of knowing you Actually the thing is, guys, you really
do have to feel it first before you really know
what you do and don't.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Want, right, And for me, this was definitely another one
of those cases where all now that you've pretty much
told me, you're like your mission statement, Yeah, this is
definitely not what I intended, right, this isn't what I
want and a future employer, this isn't what I want
in a future newsroom and all that. So it's like, yeah, nah,

(01:18:43):
I'm good, thank you, right, and but I stayed faced,
And but will I work with that publication again? No? No,
they're understaffed. That's the number. They are understaff They need
help badly, like.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
It should have never taken him twenty days to get back.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
No, no, no, especially when you are associated with the
university and you know, yeah, no, you shouldn't be doing
that type of stuff. Speaking of DC, I want to
pick your brain on something a little wrestling related. So,

(01:19:26):
as I've been telling listeners often in the past couple
of weeks, we got Undertaker, who actually know John Cena
is who I was talking about the most. John Cena
is going to be coming out here in d C
December thirteenth for Saturday Night's main event. It's going to
be his retirement match and everything. But lean up to it.

(01:19:48):
We got Undertaker, who's going to have a live edition
of his six Feet under podcast It's going to be
happening Friday, December twelfth, eight pm at six point twenty
t Street Northwest, and it is gonna be at the

(01:20:12):
Howard Theater. All ages are welcome. Doors open at six
thirty pm. Show is at eight pm. Check this out.
Sale starts November nineteenth. That's Wednesday, November nineteenth. Check out
these prices. General admission one hundred twenty four dollars. That's

(01:20:33):
one hundred dollars plus twenty four dollars fee, first come,
first served seating behind the Premiere floor row seat section.
What about that Premiere floor row seat section three hundred
and eighty two dollars. That's three hundred and fifty dollars
plus thirty two dollars first come, first served seating exclusively

(01:20:57):
in the front section. Premier balcony row seat. That's sixty
three dollars. Basically fifty dollars plus thirteen dollar fee. Balcony
bar seat, first come, first serve sixty three dollars. You
get to just when it comes to the base pay

(01:21:20):
and the fee, Premiere Floor booth for four ninety dollars.
Booths are pre assigned and your party will be directed
to your booth at arrival. You must buy the entire
booth and the price listed is per seat, so don't
be thinking, wow, ninety dollars for four seats. No, No,

(01:21:45):
and then Premiere balcony for four same deal like what
I just read to you before, that's ninety dollars. They
also have a Premiere Balcony booth for six people ninety dollars.
Your thoughts on these prices, And again this is for

(01:22:10):
the Undertaker. I want to make sure that because there's
a big difference here. This is for a live taping
of the Undertaker's six Feet under podcast, So nine times
out of ten you're gonna be getting him and his wife,
Michelle McCool, because Michelle McCool has been his new co

(01:22:31):
host for some months now after they basically kicked off.
It kicked out Undertaker's former co host guy that basically
helped create the damn thing with Undertaker, Mark Callaway. Not
to make it be about Michelle McCool, but like I've
seen her, and she doesn't add any any value, any

(01:22:58):
significant value, if anything, She really, if anything, she really disrupts. Okay,
so versus So picture it like this, Picture it like this,
and everybody just close your eyes. Everybody, just close your eyes.
Picture Jim Cornett and Brian Lass. I'll use them as

(01:23:20):
a fantastic example. Phenomenal. I mean, they just they play
off of each other extremely well, extremely well. Now, for
those of you that may remember, I'll use another example. Otherwise,
remember Jim Cornett's like one of his original co hosts

(01:23:44):
before Brian last came in. It was a female and
she did not care for wrestling whatsoever. She let that
be perfectly, No, she did not care for wrestling at all.
And I don't even know how she ended up being
paired with Jim Cornett as a result of just having

(01:24:07):
that whole mindset and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
But she.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
What do you get when you take a person who
is energetic, bombastic, charismatic Jim Cornett?

Speaker 6 (01:24:24):
What do you get when you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
Take an individual well who we'll talk their head off
about science?

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
Now put these two together, and what do you get
one person carrying the whole goddamn show. Now, maybe some
people might not remember the female. Okay, granted, I'll give
you another example. I'll give you another example.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
It would be like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
It would be like, man, what is a what is
a really good example? I'm trying to think of, like,
what's a really really really really damn good example.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
What do you get?

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
What do you get if you take let's say, all right,
everybody knows DX. Everybody knows Dx's There's been different incarnations
of DX. Some would say, look what Shawn Michaels was

(01:25:37):
doing when he was running around with DX. That was
like really good. Other people will say, nah, man, it
was really really good when you had Triple H and
China and road Dog and x PAC and like, no,
that was really the best incarnation of Okay, but let's
just let's just go with the original trio Triple H.

(01:26:02):
Shaw Michaels, I'm gonna mention the name, and I love
this dude, but it's no disrespect at all. Okay, take
out Triple H and replace him with David O'tanga.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
Oh my, Okay, that's that's like a water a really
watered down version.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
So Michelle McCool does not offer. Now before anybody goes, lee,
you're being sexist. No no, no, hear me out.

Speaker 6 (01:26:36):
Hear me out.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
If Undertaker had to have a female co host, I'd
be like, okay, maybe Mickey James, Gail Kim, you know,
maybe like a Tris Stratus, maybe a Lita, maybe maybe Jazz,

(01:27:03):
maybe the Chocolate Southern Bell, Miss Jacqueline, maybe Victoria, Like, hey,
how about O D b O D b ODP an undertaker?
Now that that would be a very interesting little you know,
I think that would. Yeah, Michelle McCool is flat flat, flat, flat, flat, flat, flat,

(01:27:25):
flat flat flat flat flap. There's like she she disrupts
the whole, and you can really tell that she is
basically there, even though undertaker Mark Callaway has said he
has not pulled strings, and which is a walking contradiction
in itself when you do your homework, you know, he says,

(01:27:48):
you know, I no, no, no, I I didn't do
anything to put her in a position that like bullshit.
But anyway, she she doesn't. She's a she's a huge disruptor.

Speaker 5 (01:28:02):
So I guess in what I was saying, which thank
you for the clarification, for sure, but what I was
saying when I said versus versus the person that helped
him start the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
All, all, No, the person who helped him start the podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
No, he was good.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
He was actually good. I like the dude I can't
think of his name right now, unfortunately, but no, he
actually was good.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
I liked him. Okay, yeah, interesting, Yeah, that's that's interesting.
It's not outrageous for the today's standards.

Speaker 5 (01:28:42):
The prices correct the pricess for today's standards, it's not outrageous.
I think front Row was a little high, but the
other it's not out you know, it's not outrageous, you
know versus John Cena where you're in the nosebleeds and

(01:29:04):
you're paying four hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
Yeah, and it's like, what the hell I promise you.

Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
I think I can't even remember what it was, but
I'm pretty sure it was under two fifty. And that's
when it was for the both of us, and we
literally were at the beginning of the bleachers.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
For a raw event. Yeah, I think it was like
two two fifty it was.

Speaker 5 (01:29:37):
And it was like, okay, well this makes sense. But
you know, coming up when we did prices, I just
look at some of the prices now.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
For events and you want to go to them, but
it's like, say what you want? How much for what?
And and it really is a turnoff.

Speaker 5 (01:30:11):
Because like I told you know, Lee, and I'm pretty
sure I think I said something about it on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
You were thinking about getting tickets.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
I was thinking about getting tickets, but I'm like, there's
just no way, absolutely no way. And and you know,
then goes the argument of you know, we're not going
to get into today, But there goes the argument of
when you know, these type of events are outpricing themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
Look, you know it's bad when I can't think of
the wrestler or wrestlers that went on record recently, but
there were definitely some WWE wrestlers that commented on the
ticket prices situation and they said, look, I feel where
the fans are coming from. There used to be a

(01:31:00):
time where I used to be able to get comp
tickets for family and friends.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
And now they've taken that away.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
And and they went on record they said, now, they said,
now I could try to get tickets and I think
that the comp tickets are secured, and then I find
out a day or two before the event that my
comp tickets have been sold. Now that's fucked up because

(01:31:27):
they because they because they you know, TKO's gotta you.

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
Know, yeah, it's like, oh, well I'm going to make
a profit versus not. But dang, you can't.

Speaker 5 (01:31:37):
Okay, So maybe you you know you're doing comp tickets
or whatever. Maybe you only do ten, but that's I
mean that really, that's a whole other level.

Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
Agreed. Yeah, if you're going to.

Speaker 5 (01:31:52):
Promise something and do one thing one way and then
literally because you know you can make it and make
that much, he ain't nobody, you know, nobody is saying yes,
of course, you're in a business.

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
You make money, that's what you do.

Speaker 5 (01:32:08):
But there's a difference between making money to keep the
business afloat, keep your employees paid, all of that as
it pertains to it as a business, and then there's greed.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
And I'm sorry, but TKO is greedy.

Speaker 5 (01:32:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
Well, I think we talked about it here on the show.
Like I would love it if, at least for these
ww evins, since they're commanding with their commanding, I would
love it if they could do like like what the
Washington Nationals are doing, like some of the NBA basketball
teams are doing when it comes to all things concession.
They're like, okay, look dollar, hot dog, dollar, cheeseburger dollar, pizza,

(01:32:56):
dollar drinks. Do you know I mean any raping the pockets?
You know, parking, right, and we haven't even tackled parking.
You just paid what your paid just to try to
get your ass in the door for that event, you
still got to deal with parking.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
That's you know, that's if you don't take the Metro.

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:33:18):
Now, if you're Lee Sanders, you have you're done with
the Metro in any form or fashion, then you're looking
at okay, twenty thirty dollars for parking. Yeah, in addition
to your tickets, you know, in addition to okay, well,
maybe I want a beer or I want a slice

(01:33:38):
of pizza or whatever, then you're looking at another thirty
to fifty dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
Speaking of speaking of food and all that, What the
hell is going on with Wendy's.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
I don't know what's going on with Wendy's.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
Okay, So I've been keeping track of this and I've
been taking down information. So apparently there's been some significant
declining sales in the United States, as Wendy's reported that
US same store sales dropped about four point seven percent
in the third quarter of twenty twenty five alone, and

(01:34:15):
that overall global sales are down almost three percent for
the quarter. The US segment, which is obviously major for them,
is under pressure as they're seeing fewer customer visits inflation
hitting food and labor costs. There's also notes of major

(01:34:37):
store closures ahead, as Wendy's announced that they will close
a mid single digit percentage of their US restaurants. I'm
talking roughly anywhere from two hundred yes, I know, anywhere
from two hundred to It's rough. I know, girls, it's rough,
it really is. They're gonna be closing anywhere between two

(01:35:00):
hundred to three hundred and fifty locations in the coming
period starting uh should be underway right now this fourth
quarter or twenty twenty five, I.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
Will tell you. In reference to your comment, I was
coming back. No, I'm sorry, I was going down.

Speaker 5 (01:35:19):
I was in PG County yesterday and I had to
go to a CVS and I passed a really recently
refurbished or restored Wendy's. So basically they you know, they
did all the remaking and all that stuff, and there
was like chain fens around it, and in my head

(01:35:41):
when I passed it, I was like, oh, well, they
just must be finishing renovations. Thought nothing more of it.
Now that you've said that that's a possibility because the
area is not I mean, it's not, you know, bad,
but it's not the greatest. So you know, I was

(01:36:06):
actually gonna gonna make a joke in reference to it.
Would it was basically because you know, we stopped going.
We actually used to be big supporters of Wendy's and
we actually don't go near as much as we used to.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
That's just personally for you know, what we do in
a household. But that makes makes some sense.

Speaker 5 (01:36:35):
Some of the Windys that go to seem to be
still as busy as they normally are, you know, no
no issue. But then some you can tell, like you know,
you go through that that Windy's is like, oh yeah,
right through, no no weight, no nothing, well have you
And so I know they're you know trying you know

(01:36:57):
this and that with their menus and things of that nature.
They certainly have been for the last for certainly the
last couple of months that I've seen. But that's that's
disappointing to hear.

Speaker 3 (01:37:11):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
Let me give a little yeah, let me give a
little bit more information there, because there's a there's a
lot to unpack here. So many of these stores that
I mentioned that's going to be closing, which is between
two hundreds and three hundred and fifty. It's being dubbed
that these stores are underperforming locations that's overall dragging down
franchise profitability or brand performance. And they're also dubbing this

(01:37:34):
as part of a new project called Project Fresh Now.
Remember their former CEO left their position July of this year.
They got an interim CEO that's leading the turnaround right now.
But even with this new strategy in place, you know,

(01:37:57):
the there's a This is definitely high risk for the
company when it's all said and done. As one commentary
piece flag that the stock may be bottoming by highlighted risk,
especially the aggressive buyback strategy which may leave less capital

(01:38:19):
for operations, and the investor sentiment overall seems cautious with
one public figure, Jim Kramer. I love the hell out
of Jim Kramer. He reportedly said, you know how their
slogan is gotta have Wendy's, he says, and I quote,
you gotta avoid Wendy's. So you know, look, I mean

(01:38:45):
for me, look, I don't think McDonald's is going anywhere
like they are not. But what is so like if
I could pick on the interim CEO's brain for Wendy's,
I would be like, dude, nobody said you got a

(01:39:07):
monkey See and monkey do, you don't have to copy
McDonald's and Burger King and go this whole industrialized route.
Like for me when and you know this very well,
and I think the listeners know this as well when
we were growing up, and you know, there was something

(01:39:27):
comforting and very friendly when you would see that Wendy's logo,
right when you would see that that little red hair chriacter,
and you would see the red and the yellow led colors,
and you'd see the yellow that was in there, and

(01:39:51):
the type of the fries that you would get in
the yellow box, and you know, maybe you'd get the
frost you get the frosty and the little yellow cup,
and there was just something that, like, for the longest time,
it seemed kind of nostalgia in a good way, good

(01:40:12):
old fashioned, just the way founder Dave Thomas had initially,
you know, did it in everything. I think that where
Wendy's really went wrong is again not just monkey See,
Monkey Do by going industrialized, but where they also where

(01:40:32):
they also kind of messed up, I think a little bit.
I think they I think they did too much with
expanding their menu. I think they should have just been
more focused on, you know, the hell with salads and look,

(01:40:53):
that's good, that's great. You know that you want to
give variety, that's great, but like stick to you know,
if anything expand upon Burgers tried different burger combinations. I
don't even mind the chicken sandwiches, right, I don't even
mind that. If you want to maybe do raps like,
that's fine too, But I think they missed their true
calling card where you know, they should have been like, okay,

(01:41:16):
what new exclusive burgers can we try to craft next
that like you'll only be able to get here at
And to their credit, we're now kind of seeing them
finally lean into that. I know recently there was a
What's that Netflix show Wednesday from the Adams Family. They

(01:41:37):
tried to do a theme meal off of that where
the buns were purple. And now, let me tell you,
gots something, be careful because when you eat that type
of stuff, that's what's gonna come out at the other end.
I'm not exaggerating you. You will find out the hard way.
But you know, because even the Windy's removed their little

(01:42:00):
plate pens and yeah, and and and all of that.
It's really weird from there that we grew up in.
It's really weird seeing these McDonald's and Windy's. It doesn't
even scream welcome, Like that's the thing I used to
love about these restaurants. They back in the day, they
used to welcome. Okay, you've been traveling for a while

(01:42:24):
or you know you're coming home from like welcome, you know,
come on, you know, stay awhile. Now it's just it
doesn't even to the point it doesn't even smell to
me at times where you kind of even smell the food. Now,
if anything, you smell more sanitization.

Speaker 5 (01:42:45):
So you're not you're you're getting away from the experience,
the eating experience. You know, everybody wants fast food fast
and because of the you know summer, say, busy lifestyle
and what have you. But you're taking away from the experience.
You know, back when myself in leave a growing up,

(01:43:10):
you know, you went to McDonald's, you got not only
you know, your parents got a little bit of a
reprieve because you were in the jungle gym or whatever
outside play area and they knew you were safe and
that they can actually enjoy a meal and the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
So there was an experience there and the kids obviously
it was like, yeah, that's what I want.

Speaker 5 (01:43:31):
And then they're running out to the you know, play
area and they're just like happy is everything now?

Speaker 3 (01:43:38):
It really is just this.

Speaker 5 (01:43:42):
Depressing, somewhat colorful just grab you shouldn't go, and it is.
It's honestly taking away. You know, we don't have as
a society. We don't have much experiences, dining experiences. It's

(01:44:04):
pretty much. I mean even to the point where you
have gig drivers who are like, yeah, I'm not even
getting out of my own house, i want somebody to
deliver to me and I'm good.

Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:44:15):
So in some ways, our our lifestyles, our lifestyles and
the way we want it are taking away from the
experiences that we're getting in our local restaurants, whether it
be Windy's, whether it be McDonald's, whether it be you know,

(01:44:37):
Popeyees or whatever, you know, because of the society and
the way it is now because the world that we
grew up in, yeah, totally different. On the perverse side of.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
It, it's really weird. It's really weird speaking of food
and run into the bathroom and all that. So what
is going on? I've been noticing this more and more
and more, and I don't know if it's just old
man Lee yelling at the cloud here, what is going
on with you ladies always taking pictures little selfies of

(01:45:09):
yourselves in the bathroom, Because I gotta tell you, I've
been noticing more and more. I'm not even looking for
this stuff. I'm just minding my own business, browsing the
web and all that, and I'll come across all these
random pictures of women, all shapes, sizes, colors. You know,

(01:45:32):
they're taking me selfies in the bathroom, And like, I
don't know if anybody else is doing like I'm doing here,
because I kind of feel like this is a Jerry
Seinfield moment, what what's going on? But I am I'm
not even looking at the women that are posing for
these selfies. I am more concerned about what is going

(01:45:55):
on with the bathroom that they're in, and I'm looking.
I'm trying to see how clean it is, because that
kind of is saying to me, Okay, well you definitely
care about your hygiene. To my point, I have seen
my fair share of women that are taking these bathroom selfies.

(01:46:15):
One woman in particular took a selfie of herself. I
don't know if it was from the bathroom stall that
she was in, but there was tissue on the floor.
And I'm going, hmm, that's not you know, Heaven forbid
that you're well, not Heaven forbid, but actually no, Heaven forbid.

(01:46:38):
If you're a plump sized woman, a BBW and you're
taking a picture of yourself in your bathroom or a
place you know that has a bathroom. You know, I'm
again I'm looking at the bathroom. I'm going, how's the bathroom?

(01:46:58):
Does it look kind of you know, look kind of
good and everything. I find that if I see a
woman that takes a selfie, like maybe she's taking a
selfie of herself at a bathroom at like a gem
little fitness center or whatever, like I'm cool, Like that's

(01:47:19):
like that's great, that's it's not. It's immaculate, okay, I
mean like clean, why I mean it is immaculate, Like okay,
all right, cool, but like, yeah, I've been noticing more
and more and more women are taking these these selfies. Now, look,
I've seen some men that are guilty of these selfies

(01:47:41):
as well. I've seen some men take little selfies in
the bathroom, like no, don't like like, help me understand.
It's more so the women that I'm seeing of the
men taking the selfies in the bathroom. It seems like
the men's ms when it comes to their selfies. They're

(01:48:03):
taking a selfie of themselves in their car, or maybe
they're out and about walking and they take a selfie, Like, well,
what's going on? Mm hmmm, So please defend the women.

Speaker 3 (01:48:21):
My first thing is.

Speaker 5 (01:48:28):
I will be the first to say to you that
I don't necessarily look at I mean, I might look
at where the picture's taken.

Speaker 3 (01:48:39):
What if it's in the bathroom, It's.

Speaker 5 (01:48:41):
Like okay, And so it doesn't phase me as far
as oh, well this is in the bathroom, and I'm
not looking on the floor and you know, whatever else
is in the composition.

Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
Generally, for me, I'm focused on the main subject. That's
number one. Number two. The only other thing that I
can think of is generally most most bathrooms have a
lot of mirrors and good light.

Speaker 2 (01:49:10):
My other personal favorite is seeing when the females take
a selfie and there's no more tissue on the roll
or or or I've seen this a lot too. There's
like three last squares on the role, and I just

(01:49:32):
my mind just drips, and I'm like, she's doing a
lot of wife.

Speaker 4 (01:49:37):
Most people don't think the way you do. I can
promise you I've never thought damn.

Speaker 3 (01:49:48):
That bitch, what's your rest a lot?

Speaker 7 (01:50:00):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
Now I can. I can say this within that there
is actually a picture of me.

Speaker 5 (01:50:08):
It's actually one of my top five, probably even top
three pictures of me, And it actually is taken not
in a bathroom stall, but it is taken from a
bathroom because it has a long mirror and the lighting
was really good and I happened to like the bathroom

(01:50:30):
was immaculately clean. But that's actually the only picture in
a bathroom that I've ever I've ever taken.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
Yeah, So.

Speaker 3 (01:50:42):
As far as the reasoning behind it, that's the only
thing I can come up with. But and then the
other thing is sorry, you're just weird.

Speaker 8 (01:50:56):
Now, Okay, Now I'm gonna need now, I'm gonna need
some of the felt and maybe even some of the
ladies to come to my defense if it's even possible,
be like.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
No, yeah, I see what. I'm right there with you, man.
You know, I just I may not say it publicly,
but in this case.

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
You know, I look at the at the toilet top.
You too.

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
Look, look, I'm gonna put a pole up and I'm
just gonna pull a Jerry Seinfield. I'm gonna be like,
what about those women's selfies in the bathrooms people, I'm
gonna put the pole up and we're gonna see how
people have voted, because I'm very, very curious.

Speaker 5 (01:51:32):
To make sure and you put do I look at
everything in the photo to make sure reference to how
many squares are on the row or if they've used
it all.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
All I'm saying all I'm saying, maybe it's my photography mindset.
I don't know if that's what's kicking in, because like
I care about like what all is in the frame,
and like how it's gonna make sense, you know, how
it's gonna make sense to the viewer, and and you know,
I just can't help just you know, Okay, if I'm

(01:52:01):
going to take a picture of myself at a public restroom,
I don't think I want to take a picture of
myself in a public restroom where there's tissue all on
the floor.

Speaker 3 (01:52:15):
That might you know.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
I'm just I'm just saying, right, especially if I'm you
had me at tissue on the floor.

Speaker 3 (01:52:21):
No, but you lost me with there's three squares on
the roll?

Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
Well, what else am I supposed to think?

Speaker 7 (01:52:27):
Especially if it's if it's giving me the indication that
it's your own private bathroom, and it's like, oh wow,
somebody's running on on TP.

Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
You need more TP for debunks.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
Hole.

Speaker 3 (01:52:40):
So let me bring it down to how I would
think about it at this point.

Speaker 5 (01:52:45):
If you're focused on the tissue roll, the subject that's
in the in the photo must not be that interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:52:53):
I mean, the subject is interesting, but I just go, damn,
there's about three squares left on the roll.

Speaker 2 (01:52:57):
What's going on?

Speaker 7 (01:52:58):
And then if I don't see the tissue on the roll,
I go, oh, damn, somebody's out of tissue?

Speaker 2 (01:53:04):
They really should you know? Reload? Are they using a
wet rag?

Speaker 3 (01:53:09):
Are they you know? Don't don't send the wrong message.
I'm just I'm just saying. I'm just saying, Hi, is
WTF on this conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:53:22):
I'm just saying, what is going on? I want to know,
curious mind, want to know speaking of women, and get
your thoughts on this before we get ready to dip out.
So let me set this up for because I want
to hear your thoughts on this one. Because I came

(01:53:43):
across this one. I talked about it earlier in the
week and I was like, hmm, but I want to
get your thoughts on this. So there is a female wrestler.
There's been a new update on this too. So female
wrestler former WWE wrestler by the name of Tiguan Knocks.
She's now going by her her new ring name Nixon

(01:54:08):
Noel And during last week's episode of aw Collision, and
I was not even aware that this other wrestler. I
thought they were just best friends, but apparently this is
her partner, her romantic partner, her girlfriend Miranda Elise. They

(01:54:32):
were initially booked for a match against Taikanti and Anna
j and they seemingly walked out of the match unhappy
with only being given three minutes for this and this
decision was made at the last minute, so allegedly the

(01:54:56):
promotion aw Tony Conning Crew they had to look for
in the viduals to fill in for them. Maya World
and High End stepped in their place and Dave Meltzer
and crew and The Wrestling Observer. They reported that one
individual in the Independent Circuit mentioned that this controversy won't

(01:55:18):
help Nixon the Well secure bookings, despite similar situations having
the opposite effect, say, quote unquote, a publicity would help
get Nouel bookings, even though this became kind of the

(01:55:39):
talk in wrestling, and some mini promoters think that controversy
will help sell tickets and they aren't just two random women.
But then you can make another announcement that well, they're
not really established though not really Another unnamed book gave

(01:56:01):
a bold take saying this situation will give her zero
leverage with bookings. They claimed that this was WWE brain
rot and that she was asking too much based on
her name alone, quote unquote, but one person who books
at the Pitted Talent said they disagreed. Was it it

(01:56:22):
just the other week you were talking about wrestlers who
had leverage not wanting to do business. How about wrestlers
with zero leverage. Nixon isn't going to get work out
of this. She wasn't getting work before and was crying
about it. She asks way too much money and sells

(01:56:44):
zero tickets on her name alone, unusual WWE brain rot.
So Meltzer believed that Nixon to Well and Miranda Elise
may never get booked within the company ever. Again. Keep
in mind he has direct contact with Tony Khan. So

(01:57:04):
whatever message that maybe Tony Kahan wants to try to
get relayed, I mean, it's so bad. There was actually
a stream recently where in the middle of the stream
Dave Meltzer actually got a call from Tony Khan.

Speaker 3 (01:57:18):
Oh wow, yeah, so pretty bad.

Speaker 2 (01:57:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah. So if Meltzer is saying he believes
that these women will get booked ever again, at least
in aew. Brian Alvarez, co host, said that he heard
something similar as those within the company. In the company
strongly believe the duo had done something stupid, saying, quote unquote,

(01:57:44):
let me tell you something I heard from a lot
of people. And what is amazing is that the show
was going on, so people were even waiting until the
show was over. Maybe Tony told them there were no
hard feelings. But I could tell you one thing. There
were so many people that were like, such a stupid

(01:58:05):
thing to do. And that's the one thing I heard
over and over, what a stupid thing to do? Now,
Nixon Nouelle, she revealed recently that she's going to be
considering retiring in twenty twenty six. With the current situation
that she's in and right now, it remains to be

(01:58:25):
seen if she'll be able to gather some bookings before
or if she may end up just saying f it.
You know, she's going out there, she's saying, you know, hey,
I just want to have fun. But then, you know, allegedly,
not even allegedly, but I read part of the transcript

(01:58:46):
from her Twitch stream that she did with her girlfriend.
With her and her girlfriend and they're on Twitch playing
video games, and they had talked about what all had occurred,
and she basically was like, no, we didn't like the
fact that it was a three minute match. You know,
we had already lost in our debut match, and here

(01:59:06):
we are, you know, we're being brought back and you
know we're going to lose to another team, and that
didn't make sense to us not to mention the match
with short. So we went to Tony Kahan, We went
to you know, so many people, and you know, they
were very understanding, you know, because we told him, we said, hey,
this doesn't make sense for us, it doesn't make sense

(01:59:27):
for the team, it doesn't make sense for the segment.
You know, we should really be doing something, you know,
kind of longer. And Tony Kahn and everybody involved that
we spoke to, you know, they were like, you know, hey,
it's cool, no no problem whatsoever. And you know, hey,
you know they didn't need us for anything else, you know,

(01:59:48):
you know, so we went on ahead, made sure everything
was on the up and up good, and then we
pretty much rolled out. Now, this might have been some
type of a situation where they were being paid per appearance,
so it's like not for nothing, but you know, this
wasn't to quote one of my favorite Eagles songs, wasting

(02:00:09):
time like you you actually were being compensated here. You know,
you were brought back a second time. Obviously you made
a really good impression the first go around. But now
it's okay. So you know, even if it was just
three minutes and you were gonna lose to you know,

(02:00:30):
another match, you're gonna lose another match. Think about the
eyeballs that's seeing you on HBO Max. Think about the
eyeballs that seeing you on t n T TBS. Think
about the social media impressions. Think about the fact that
for your little Twitch gaming stream with your girlfriend, you
guys could have easily built a talking segment around that

(02:00:53):
on your next stream, you know how the match was,
and maybe tell some fun little innuendo stories or whatever.
I sounded off about what I thought about this whole ordeal.
On matter of fact, I was on Friday, now that
I think about it, We did a regular Friday edition
of the RCWR show that is on the YouTube channel

(02:01:17):
right now. I've got to actually upload the audio version
of that. So I've set it up properly for you,
especially for those that maybe wanted more full context on this,
so you hear all of that, I will say you.

Speaker 5 (02:01:31):
First of all, my first thought is, Okay, you're building
a name for yourself, but then you change it up.

Speaker 2 (02:01:39):
And she formerly worked for WWE. She was part of
the Get on the Bus flip some months back.

Speaker 5 (02:01:51):
So but either way, so some of those people who
knew you as whoever you're you know, ultrue character ulter
ego was don't know you or who you are.

Speaker 3 (02:02:05):
Now you are getting paid per appearance. Who the fuck cares?

Speaker 5 (02:02:09):
What the hell you?

Speaker 3 (02:02:10):
How many?

Speaker 5 (02:02:10):
How long your damn matches? And if they imply that
that's what it was going to be, and it changed.
The thing was not to have a hissy fit, but
to go do the damn thing and talk to management
about it later, because now here's the situation that she's

(02:02:32):
put herself into. She's hard to work with, and that
retirement is going to come sooner rather than later, because
nobody nobody does that, not in in as a jobber,

(02:02:52):
not as a jobb or you're not even a main talent.
You don't have that kind of weight or that pool
to be active like that. So that was a very
dumb move on her part.

Speaker 2 (02:03:04):
I mean my impression, just to add more new layers
to what you just said, I mean, financially, she must
be set, because if you are financially set, then the
real question becomes, Okay, why are you really doing this?

Speaker 3 (02:03:21):
And the second and the last thing that I can say.

Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
More importantly, why are you putting your girlfriend through this?
Because your girlfriend, who is also a wrestler, she's been
at it now, Miranda Elise, she's been wrestling since she's
about the same age as Noel. She's been wrestling since
twenty fourteen, so she's got about roughly ten years under

(02:03:51):
her belt. I know a lot of people were like,
who is this girl? I've never heard of her before.
I did some digging around, and she's been all over
the place. She did a couple years working for Booker
T's Reality of Wrestling promotion, short little stuff for the
Shimmer promotion, Rise Hot Minute there in WWE. I know

(02:04:12):
one of her appearances was as Adam Rose's Rosebud Entourage.
She was also involved in the first annual May Young Classic.
She had a losing match in twenty twenty on AEW
Dark against Britt Baker. So there was already some past

(02:04:35):
affiliation built.

Speaker 3 (02:04:36):
In there for her.

Speaker 2 (02:04:38):
And even if Teagan might have been I'm sorry, Noel Nixon, Noel,
even if she might have been feeling a particular way,
it's kind of one of those Okay, well you might
be getting ready to retire, but what about your girlfriend?
What about your girlfriend?

Speaker 5 (02:04:55):
And the other thing with that is, if anybody has
watched to EW in the past five years, especially at
its at its inception, they put the winning the winning
title or the win on the prize horse.

Speaker 3 (02:05:19):
Basically, how many times did.

Speaker 5 (02:05:23):
Oh lord, I can't think of the name, but basically
the twins there were brothers young, how many times did
they win?

Speaker 2 (02:05:36):
Two?

Speaker 3 (02:05:36):
Damn many?

Speaker 5 (02:05:38):
So if you already know of a history of a company,
then why should you be surprised.

Speaker 3 (02:05:47):
That's just how I feel about it.

Speaker 5 (02:05:49):
You know, you are getting paid, you are getting promoted,
you are getting some type of nod.

Speaker 2 (02:06:00):
For be it.

Speaker 3 (02:06:01):
However, long you can't make.

Speaker 5 (02:06:05):
Waves if you're no longer in the company, if you've
burned that bridge, you'll never be able to make waves.

Speaker 2 (02:06:12):
And then.

Speaker 5 (02:06:14):
And essentially leaving them high and dry. Yeah, you've burned
that bridge and a few others.

Speaker 2 (02:06:23):
And you know, she can say she's still a little
young and a little naive, she can say all she wants. Oh, no,
everything everything was good. Don't believe everything that you hear. No,
I have it on good authority. Everything was cool, Everything
was on.

Speaker 3 (02:06:37):
The up and up.

Speaker 2 (02:06:38):
Let me tell you something. You and I have both
played that game before where we will stay faced and
we will say, you know whatever to let that person
feel as though, you know, but you know, once that
person is no longer in our view and here in

(02:07:00):
we're like, yeah, that ain't happening again.

Speaker 3 (02:07:04):
Yeah, most recently, was your your graduation dinner with that waitress? Yes?

Speaker 2 (02:07:16):
Yes, yeah, yes, so yeah, I mean I mean that it.

Speaker 5 (02:07:22):
Does happen, you know, And why would she say anything
different to make herself look like like she's anything anything
less than you know, abiding by the company, because then
that makes her look difficult just the same.

Speaker 2 (02:07:41):
Right. I don't. I don't get some of these people.

Speaker 6 (02:07:46):
I really really don't.

Speaker 2 (02:07:48):
I mean, I'm of the mindset personally when you agree
to do a job, right, even if it's a situation
where you're not being used but you're still being paid. Hey,
easiest money I ever made. Like, I would love to

(02:08:09):
take this time out. And when I just think about
the amount of jobbers that we have seen and spoken
to here on this show. What was the one guy,
big sweaty men, sweaty sweaty men, Johnny Johnny Knockout. I

(02:08:30):
would love to hear Johnny knockout. Now, for those of
you that don't remember Johnny Knockout, Johnny Knockout was somebody
that had appeared on WWE. Rawl my God. I think
at this point it might have been almost ten years ago,
and I can't remember who he faced, but I remember

(02:08:52):
I think it was Byron Saxton. He was like, why
did you decide to do this match? I don't know
if it was maybe against braun Strowman, but but Bryann
Sacks was like, why did you decide to do this match?
And Johnny Knosville not Knoxville knockout. He had his fifteen
minutes of fame and he was like, hey, you know,

(02:09:13):
I like big sweaty men. And he might have lost
to whoever in like five seconds or whatever, but you know,
he was able to ride that wave. I remember he
was part of all different podcasts left and right for
like at least about two months, and he rolled that

(02:09:37):
freaking momentum. Find me, just all the jobbers that we've
seen over the years, you don't think they appreciate. For
God's sake, James Ellsworth, think about him. That guy was
a jobber, and eventually he got himself a He was

(02:09:57):
able to work himself to a nice situation with the
WWE for a hot little bit as a result of
all the work that he was doing as a job
or Now. I mean, look, if you're out of place financially,
you're good, then it becomes a question of so why
are we wasting everybody's time, Like you're You're not Al Pacino,
You're not Diane Keaton. You know, don't know, nobody need

(02:10:21):
to be rolling. You ain't reach Mercedes monette status, right, okay,
and that I will give aw Tony Conn and them
credit where credit is freaking due. Their roster is freaking stacked.
So if you don't want to freaking do xyz.

Speaker 3 (02:10:40):
They gonna find somebody who will.

Speaker 2 (02:10:42):
Yeah, and they won't use your ask again in the process.

Speaker 3 (02:10:46):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (02:10:47):
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the air. I gotta tell you it was very lovely

(02:13:04):
these past two weekends now where there hasn't been a
wrestling pay per view that has been love it. I
love it more, please more. But yeah, we'll be on
after Monday night rall goes off the air. And then
don't forget Friday, November twenty first, at a pm Eastern

(02:13:26):
live all throughout social media. It's the fourteenth Anniversary show
going to be celebrating fourteen years of the RCWR Show
with Lee Sanders, So make sure you mark that down
and we'll be streaming all while SmackDown is on, maybe

(02:13:47):
even a little after. I'm a picture. Maybe we'll do
like a three maybe we'll do like a four hour show.
We'll see how it goes. But I know I'll definitely
I'll be reacting in real time to some of the
stuff that's happening on SmackDown. I know Tam said she'll
definitely pop in for a little bit. Uh, she's actually

(02:14:08):
gonna be helping as well in screening phone calls. H
So anybody that maybe wants to call in, uh, you know,
happy anniversary wishes and all that, you'll be able to
do so on the show. So looking forward to that.
It's gonna be a fun, good show. We'll get into

(02:14:29):
some fun stories, some good times, nothing but good vibes
all the way around. Be kind, rewind check out previous
episodes you might have missed on demanding on the downloads.
Wherever you get your podcast, just search the RCWR Show.

Speaker 3 (02:14:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:14:47):
Oh, shout out to Mish of Wrestling Soup and Joe Numbers.
Miss is Uh, one of Miss's kiddos is getting married.
I don't know this coming weekend or the next. I
was like, dude, you got to you gotta hook me up.
If they got a registry or something, I'd like to,

(02:15:09):
you know, try to get them something if possible. If
they got it set up, So congrats, man, Like time
flies so fast. I remember when he was just talking
about them being, you know, much younger and like time
freaking flies, man, that's insane. Shout out to Julian Cannon
of The Nocturnal and Digitay. Shout out to our longtime

(02:15:33):
listeners supporters of the show as well. Show the YouTube
channel some love. If you haven't subscribed over there, make
sure you do so, always putting up some great, fun
exclusive content on there for you guys. Oh, by the way,
shout out to everybody that voted on the poll the
final results of that poll, because I definitely want to

(02:15:54):
make sure we at least mentioned this before we dip out.
We asked you guys. And for those of you that
maybe we're not aware of this poll, there was a
poll that we put out last week where we were like, hey,
go check out the latest edition of Wrestling with the
topics and then come back and vote on the poll.
There was actually a live webcast where me and TAM's

(02:16:17):
appeared and you could see us in the flesh, and
I kept it simple, which was, please guys, I need
to see more shows like that, keep it the way
you've been doing it, and then alternated every other episodes
and the final tally that I'm seeing right now. I mean,

(02:16:38):
you guys are more welcome to continue to vote because
it's on the YouTube channel. Just go to YouTube dot
com forts last RCWR show, click on post and you'll
see it. But right now, thirty three percent of you
said keep it the way you've been doing it. Sixty
seven percent of you said please guys, need to see
more shows like that. I was prepared to do another,

(02:17:01):
Hey you see us in the flush show, but TAM's
isn't feeling too good. A matter of fact, she wants
to get a little bit of day quill and all that.
She's been sipping, nibbling on a little bit of soup
here and there. So it was kind of like, okay,
all right, so that's why you got this show the
way you got it. Hopefully, if she's feeling better, we

(02:17:24):
will maybe next weekend do a live wrestling with the topics.
By the way, I'll leave you guys on a funny note. So,
I finally watched all the episodes of the newest season
of The Walking Dead. Darryl Dixon all right, so I'm

(02:17:45):
about to put a major spoiler out there, So if
you guys want to disconnect right now, like like, go ahead,
you have been warned. So I'll watch it right real quick.
I ain't being long drawn out. I watch it and
I'm like, wait, I'm supposed I'm supposed to feel sorry
for these motherfuckers because their boat got destroyed and they
can't go home. Like no, like y'all should have left

(02:18:09):
now they're in Spain or something. I'm like, y'all should
have left a long time ago. Because Daryl kept telling Carol, hey,
ain't none of our business. We need to just keep
moving along, know what I mean? And Carol's like, oh,
but you know they're young, they're in love. Look, don't
mean it goddamn thing to me, Carol. I'm trying to

(02:18:30):
get back home, and like Daryl is literally like, but
Carol just want to keep you know, She's like, you know,
that's not how we roll. And and Darrel's like, well,
maybe we should start, you know, And so you go
through all this crap, right, and their boat gets destroyed

(02:18:57):
and they got to play the Spanish version of Cash
is Hurt. You know, they actually played that while their
boat was being destroyed. You know, I'm like, uh okay,
and I laughed so goddamn hard. I laughed so goddamn

(02:19:17):
hard because they're like, no, not the boat, save the boat,
and because the boat ended up like catching five, like
we gotta save the boat. And then you know, the
boat freaking explodes and they're like no, and you got
freaking Carol who's starting to light you know, it's you

(02:19:38):
know what that whole scene reminded me of with Carol
as she was basically being embraced by Darryl. It reminded
me of the crying Indian commercial from back in the day.
Look this up. If you guys don't remember, there's a
there's a vintage commercial from back in the day. It's
like in the late sixties seventies where this Indian is

(02:20:03):
sad because his land is being destroyed by people that
are being reckless with their recyclables in trash. They're just
throwing it all over the place, and they show this
Indian who just is seeing all of this wasteland around him,
and then he turns his head and looks directly at

(02:20:25):
a hard camera and there's this tiny little tear drop
that just comes streaming down his face, and like, we
got freaking Carol doing that, you know, and you got
the whole Spanish version from some guy you know, you're
don't name o Aki you'll get or Taco Bell.

Speaker 1 (02:20:47):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:20:47):
It's just like.

Speaker 2 (02:20:49):
Just I'm just like what I'm like, And I was
supposed to feel sorry for you guys, Like no, fuck off,
Like seriously, fuck you don't heard that commercial with the
Indian I probably.

Speaker 3 (02:21:03):
Do if I saw it.

Speaker 2 (02:21:04):
Hold up now, now, now, now we hold up now, now,
we gotta freaking wait a minute. Hang on here, hang
on here, hang on here, and anybody that doesn't know
what I'm talking about, going YouTube type in crying Indian commercial. Okay,
crying Indian commercial. Here it is here, it is. Let's

(02:21:27):
see if you can hear it is.

Speaker 6 (02:21:36):
Okay, hang on.

Speaker 2 (02:21:37):
I don't think the listeners are going to be able
to hear this, um, but that's okay, that's okay, okay,
And then where is my volume. Where's my volume?

Speaker 3 (02:21:51):
Here?

Speaker 2 (02:21:51):
Give me a second. Here it's the keep America beautiful
crying Indian? Okay, and then where is the Oh I
got my voyme right here right? Oh, yes, I do. Okay,
So everybody might be able to hear this. Okay, So
let me go to full screen. All right, So basically
to set this up properly for you guys. So we

(02:22:12):
got this crying Indian. He is like, God damn it.
So he got this crying Indian. He's on a boat
and there's a man made boat and he's just going
through it, you know, just paddling along, you know. And
as he's just paddling along, he's coming across all kinds

(02:22:35):
of debris and the water, and then you know, he sees,
you know, the the captain planning it. You know, he's
seeing the freaking factories and the smag and and and
all of that. And then he comes up on the
shore and he's seeing like dead fishes. He's seeing like
a whole bunch of trash, and you know, and and

(02:22:56):
and then he just you know, he's he's see he's
the cars and then all the exhaust fumes that's coming
from them, and the more trash, and he just looks
dead at the camera and he just starts busting up crying.
All right, so all right, here we go.

Speaker 6 (02:23:26):
So see it's the trash. He's like, oh my god.

Speaker 8 (02:23:47):
Some people have a deep, abiding respect for the natural
beauty that was once this country.

Speaker 3 (02:23:55):
And some people who don't. People who start pollution. Look
at it to yours.

Speaker 2 (02:24:07):
Seventeen seventy one Radio City.

Speaker 3 (02:24:09):
Station, New York.

Speaker 8 (02:24:14):
You don't remember that, You don't remember her crying Indian,
Oh my god, oh my yead Tab's got this look
onto her face, like, what the fuck did I just watch?

Speaker 3 (02:24:28):
No, actually, I'm thinking it's even worse.

Speaker 2 (02:24:31):
Now as far as the pollution goes. Yeah, captain planning it.
He's a hero, gonna take pollution down to zero. That's

(02:24:51):
all I got for you, guys. She's a beautiful and
lovely Tammy Lee Sanders. We're wishing all you all to
be safe mostly boily Bekai to one another. We'll see
your next go take care, bye bye, thanks for listening.
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