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September 26, 2025 • 50 mins
America is deeply divided today - but the divide isn't between left and right, it's between good and evil. Join us for a discussion about that battle and how it's impacting the country.


Guests:


J.J. Carrell | Author, Speaker & Retired Border Patrol Agent
Mitchell Silk | Presidentially-nominated, Senate-confirmed Assistant Secretary for International Markets in the U.S. Department of the Treasury
Rep. Jody Barrett | Tennessee, District 69
Doug Tennapel | YouTuber & Hollywood Animator
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Episode Transcript

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Welcome to the Real Story. I'm your host Riley Lewis.
Thank you for joining us today. I want to start
by saying that our first story of the show goes
out to law enforcement. It goes out to people working
for CBP, for ICE, It goes out to police officers
and too military, to all of the brave souls, the

(00:34):
men and women of this country who protect us. That
is the focus of our top story today, and it
brings me to a quote from doctor Martin Luther King Jr.
Who once said, this nonviolence is the answer to the
crucial political and moral questions of our time. It was

(00:54):
a bold and profound statement to make all the way
back then, and those wise words guided the action of
many people in his generation and also in future generations. However,
that wisdom was unfortunately obliterated by Wednesday sniper attack on
an ICE facility in Dallas, Texas, where a gunman's political

(01:14):
fury drove him to commit a heinous act of targeted
political violence against three unsuspecting individuals. The gunman has been
identified as twenty nine year old Joshua Han, and there
are still some unanswered questions about his life, his background,
his upbringing, and beliefs and why exactly he took to violence. However,

(01:40):
he opened fire upon the ICE facility from a nearby
rooftop in a very clear display of targeted political violence,
bringing chaos and terror to an entire community. His bullets,
scrawled with anti ICE hatred, left one detainee dead and
two people, including a Mexican national, clinging to their lives,

(02:04):
and he even took his own life after the incident.
And this attack, horrific enough as it is, marks the
third attack on Texas ICE facilities in twenty twenty five alone,
following a July fourth shooting in Alvarado that wounded an
officer in an August bomb threat at the exact same
site in Dallas. In fact, it's even believed that the

(02:26):
shooter from Wednesday was behind that same bomb threat. Now,
FBI Director Cash Mattel branded this incident as targeted domestic terrorism,
a claim that seems to be backed by some really
stark data. Politically motivated violent incidents surged fifty percent from
twenty sixteen to twenty twenty two, with radical left wing

(02:48):
ideologies increasingly in the crosshairs. So now we have a
clear pattern of behavior. These aren't random situations, and they
were also not one offs either. For example, just two
weeks ago, on Wednesday, September tenth, the Christian conservative fire
brand Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA, was assassinated

(03:09):
at Utah Valley University, shot in the neck during a
proved me Wrong event and at the hands of a
twenty two year old suspect who attested the following message
to his transgender roommate beforehand. I had enough of his hatred.
So now there's a clear motive, if there ever was one.
That also brings us to the horrific shooting that took

(03:31):
place at the Annunciation Catholic School on August twenty seventh,
when a transgender gunman who left a manifesto railing against
Christian oppression killed two children and injured eighteen more. Once again,
these aren't isolated situations. They also echoed the twenty nineteen

(03:51):
Dayton shooting, where a left wing gunman who held anti
ice sentiments tragically took the lives of nine people who
was really fit These flames of hatred and vitriol and
what's responsible for this fundamentally anti American phenomenon well, without
any drawing any heart of fast conclusions here look no

(04:12):
further than some of the inflammatory rhetoric that comes from
prominent figures like New York Democrat Congresswoman Alexandria Acasio Cortes,
whose abolish Ice mantra has become a rallying cry for radicals.
Her twenty eighteen call to dismantle the agency, echoed by
Senators Elizabeth Warren and Kirsten Gillibrand, paints border agents as villains.

(04:37):
Such rhetoric, while maybe not directly responsible for somebody else's actions,
has set the stage for exactly what we're seeing today.
And while other prominent Democrats out there, like say House
Minority Leader Hakim Jeffreys or Illinois Governor J. B. Pritzker,
have condemned such situations in the past, saying violence is bad,

(04:59):
their words just fall on deaf ears given the attacks
that keep happening day by day, over and over and
over again. Contrastly, President Trump and Vice President JD. Vance
have called it out, slamming the radical left's radical narrative

(05:19):
all of el Texas Governor Greg Abbott has vowed to
stand firm on his border security stance. So the playbook
here is crystal clear. Demonize to humanize, and ultimately destroy.
That's exactly how these situations unfold, and that's the common
denominator that connects them all. The violence is the problem

(05:42):
and their rhetoric is driving it. So now the big
question is how should this problem be addressed? Here with
his thoughts about the tragedy in Dallas and this current
climate of political violence in America is author, podcaster, speaker,
and retired Border Patrol agent JJ Carroll. Thank you for
joining me today.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
And that was a perfect monologue to kind of capsualize
everything that's happening in America right now, and I do
lay it at the feet of the left. They call
us file names. Listen to what the Congressman John Larson
from Connecticut called us. He said, we're a stoppo, and
we're ss we're hitler. What do you think people are

(06:26):
going to do and react when you call us those
vile names.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
And here's the.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Irony of all ironies, Riley, those people that are calling
us these vile names for actually enforcing the law.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Do you know who created those laws? That would be
the Congress.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
So we're enforcing these these hitler hilarian laws because you've
put him into place, and I swore an oath to
fulfill the laws that you demand, that I that I
enforced it. We live in the twilight Zone. But now
the twilight Zone is just not some random TV show.
It's about death, and I predict I hate this word predict,

(07:05):
but I'm telling you we are going to see multiple
bord patrol ice and law enforcement line of duty deaths
are going to stack on top of each other, one
on top of another in the coming weeks and months
because of the vile left.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
You know, considering your record serving a border patrol, I
imagine this story in Dallas just really really hits home
for you especially, And it's just terridoric for all Americans,
of course, but for someone in your position, it's got
to be really gut wrenching. So I want to get
your thoughts about this, what transpired, this heinous act of violence,
and really what your key takeaway is from it.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
My key teak away is Ice officers need and barbitral
agents need to surround themselves, circle the wagons. Look, I've
been asked to come back. I've been offered a job
as an ICE special agent, as a rehire, and I've
accepted it. I'm waiting for my entry on duty date,
which is basically, in Layman's term, my start date. So
I'm just waiting for the government paperwork to get shuffled.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
What does this look.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Like in real time at your dinner dining room table.
This is what the conversation last night with my wife
and my young son. Dad's going back into this world.
We thought we got out of it after twenty four
years in the Borbitral running task forces, getting in fight shootings,
all on and on and on, got out alive. Thank God.
Now I'm getting back in. We had to talk about

(08:29):
being docks. We had to talk about what happens when
people come to our house. How are we going to
deal with this? This is real life, Riley. This is
not hyperbole. This is not me trying to get clicks.
This is Look at the pictures you're showing. Why in
God's name do our law enforcement officers have to be
fully armed like they're in the middle of Mogadishu or

(08:52):
Iran and Iraq going to war. What in God's name
has happened to our country and it has brought all
the way down to my family in my world. But
I'm not going to be deterred because I believe men
like me have to get back into the physical fight
to secure our nation's history.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I just applaud your bravery and your courage. But since
you asked the question, JJ, let's go there for a minute.
What exactly do you think is happening in America? And
how in the world did we get here?

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Well, we got here because men like us have remained
silent in the face of absolute absurdity by led by
mental patients, not only the mental patients, but we sat
by quietly as the elite stole everything from us, stole
our time, our treasure, put our men and women in
harm's way, and allow them to die and oversee wars

(09:42):
that were absolutely lies.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
And we got here.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Because men like us remained silent in the face of evil.
And now evil is winning. We know Christians know that
God's going to win in the end. But right now, currently,
if you look at me and you ask me, are
we winning? No, No, we're not winning. Evil has taken over.
We're mutilating children's bodies. We have over sixty million babies

(10:08):
that have been murdered. We have violent black on white crime,
we have theft of all of our money, we're trillions
of dollars of debt. We were transgendering our children into
mutilated freaks, and you're telling me that we're winning. No,
this is evil. This is no longer the Democrats. The
Democrats are vile and the left are evil. We are

(10:30):
in a war for the soul of the United States America.
That's not hyperbole, that's not exaggeration. That is just a
stone cold truth.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Sure there's people that there are people in the Democrat
movement who are who are good people? Sure absolutely, I
don't want to paint with too broad a brush, but
largely I but.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Where are they? But Riley, where are they? No one's
condemn its. Okay, let's flip it. Let's flip it, Riley.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Let's say some crazy white supremacists killed a bunch of
black people. You and I would be the very first
one include everyone else in our quote side would be saying,
that's horrific.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
That's not us. We're I'm push it away, that's not us.
I don't care what they say. That's not us. No,
the Democrats don't do that, Riley. What do they do?

Speaker 3 (11:14):
They pile on, They mock the murder of our people,
and they encourage more and more. So I do know
that they are quote good Democrats, But where the hell
are they?

Speaker 2 (11:23):
I haven't seen any.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
It's a fair question, and I would actually use this
as a moment to just appeal to them. Your party's
being taken over by radicals and people who are very violent,
using communistic tactics to terrorize a country. Rain them in,
get your party and check once again it did not
used to be like this. Having said that, JJ, I
just want to get your thoughts about this too. We

(11:44):
look at the Arenas a riska case in North Carolina.
You look at this Dallas situation right now. You look
at the Nunciation Catholic School, the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
You look at the attack on Pennsylvania Governor Joshapiro his
home not that long ago. Clearly, there's a lot of
violence in America now. These cases they seem to be
deeply connected. What do you think is really connecting them? Like,

(12:05):
what's the common denominator here?

Speaker 3 (12:10):
The common denominator is America's split. And I believe we
remove God from our world and now we're a secular
nation and we have no anchor. So now we're flailing
around and they left believes that we are vile, horrible,
racist creatures on the right and they hate America. Why

(12:30):
do they want to bring in thirty million illegal aliens
in four years, fifty million total, fifty five million on
visas and they're overstained. Why do you think the demo,
the demographic upheople has happened. Why do you think the
chaos is happening at this level? And if you look
at history and you look at what our CIA has
done to other nations, this is how you change a nation.

(12:52):
You destroy its demographics, you make the cultural and societal
norms chaotic, you infuse insane violence, and then you have
a recipe for complete change in America. And I believe
that is the underlying threat is we have people in
positions of authority and power.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Listen, we have.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Dual citizens, dual citizens running our country.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
We have people that are not even dual.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
They're just saying, I'm Guatemalan first, I'm Peruvian first, I'm
Israel first. What the hell's going on in our country?
But again, we come all the way full circle. How
do we get here? We allowed the people that hate
our government to enrich themselves and to rule over us.

(13:39):
We no longer live in a Republican style government. In fact,
I'll ask the question, does any American feel as if
they're represented?

Speaker 2 (13:46):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
I don't think there's anyone in DC outside of Donald
Trump and maybe a handful of other guys or gals
that have any resemblance of what I believe in and
what I think America is and know it is.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah. No, I actually completely agree with that so much,
and I would agree that this attack in Dallas, as
horrific as it is, part of a bigger plot, That's
what it seems, and a bigger movement against the fabric
of America to destroy this country, fundamentally transform it. So
let's bring it back to this. I have one final
question for you about it. Just a key detail that
I think is being overlooked by the mainstream media. And

(14:19):
I don't know why, but we're seeing this trend of
people who are increasingly young committing heinous acts of violence.
The man who killed Charlie Kirk in his early twenties,
this disgusting suspect in Dallas twenty nine years old. Why
is it that there are so many young people in
America specifically that are acting out violently.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Well, all these young kids just came from what institution,
the educational institution, and they have been brainwashed, brainwashed to
believe that people like myself are Nazis. Listen, let's again
bring it all the way home. Do you understand that
when guys like me put on our vest and our
duty belts and put our gun and badge on and

(15:00):
our uniform on, we were We knew that we were
going into a war zone, meaning we're gonna arrest criminals.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
There's a good chance we're gonna get in fights.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
There is a decent chance we're gonna get in a
gunfight and maybe.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Lose our life.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Nobody in my world, prior to recent times ever thought
we're gonna get killed before we go into duty, before
we walk into the building to put our uniform on.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
That is what's happened now.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
And if I feel sound passionate and angry, I want
you to understand what if Riley on your way to
OA in your studios, I told you, hey, man, I
know it's gonna be tough for you to deal with,
but there's a good chance somebody's gonna be a on
a roof and they're gonna shoot you in your head
and kill you before you walk in.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
You'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa what? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (15:46):
What if you're an accountant and you're walking into Google
or whatever and you're gonna get sniped every day?

Speaker 2 (15:52):
How long would you do that job?

Speaker 3 (15:54):
This is insanity, absolute insanity, and I am infuriated, and
I want to speak for the guys that are in
law enforcement. Circle your wagons take care of each other.
Everyone else is secondary except the well being of your
partner to go home to their loved ones.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Everyone else doesn't matter. Circle the wagons understood. I looked
at That's the perfect way to end it. Just a
really powerful message. So one final thing I'll say is
just be careful, good luck. I wish you godspeed, JJ
my brother, and thank you for your service to this country.
We really really need it.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Well, thank you for allowing me to have a voice.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Coming up next, you've got a former member of the
Department of Treasury from President Trump's first term in office
here with us to discuss Trump's tariffs on China and
whether or not the strategy is really working. More details
about that after the break. Welcome back to the real story.

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It's no secret that China and the United States are
in direct competition, and they have been for some time,
let's call it decades. Even after all, the US is
the most powerful country on Earth and China clearly wants
to be the most powerful country on Earth. What else
could possibly explain the CCP's over efforts to sabotage America

(17:24):
and its interests from buying up hundreds of thousands of
acres of American farmland to literally deploying spy balloons that
contain American technology over the country to collect intelligence. The
CCP's end goal here is very clear, take America down.

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And one way the CCP is working toward that goal
is by bolstering its alliances all over the globe, creating
this whole new world order centered around Beijing instead of Washington.
Just this week, as an example, report Surface, China is
intensifying its economic alliance with South Africa, launching their ninth

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annual Trade Promotion Conference to boost Chinese investments in key
sectors like energy, infrastructure, and mining. This all comes on
the heels of the US imposing a thirty percent tariff
on South African imports, a decisive step by the Trump
White House to protect American workers after South Africa lost

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its zero tariff privileges. Now Chinese firms, already deeply embedded
with billions of dollars of direct investments into South Africa
are ramping up commitments, such as Gold One's four billion
rant injection into Gautan gold mining operations so equivalent to
two hundred and thirty million dollars, and the China Africa

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Development Fund eyeing bids for energy transition projects. And South
African officials have even hailed this plan as a path
to a mutually beneficial future, beneficial for the CCP, that is,
but not for the American people. So now a South
African negotiates a new deal with the US to mitigate tariffs.

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This whole situation serves as a stark reminder of how
the Chinese government is building a new world order around Beijing,
and with one very simple goal in mind to become
the world's dominant force. So that begs the question, how
can and how should the US government respond? Here? With

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his expertise is a very special guest. His name is
Mitchell Silk, and not only was he the Assistant Secretary
for International Markets at the U S Department of Treasury
during President Trump's first term. But he also literally sat
across the table from Chinese Vice Premier lou Ki and one.
He's also the author of A Seat at the Table,

(19:52):
and he knows all about President Trump's original China strategy. Mitchell,
thank you for being here.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Great to be on the show. Thanks so much for
having me.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
So, I want to start with this growing alliance between
China and South Africa. What do you make of that?

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Interesting? Not surprising. It kind of implicates, as you pointed
out a couple of minutes ago, two of the policy
goals of China in the manner that they try to expand.
One of them is through unfairly subsidized trade actions, and
the other is the manner in which they seek to

(20:31):
realize infrastructure development and infrastructure finance. Particularly during Trump forty five,
we pushed back very hard on both of those areas
through our tariff actions and through this successful Phase one
trade agreement that we brought home through very principled policy

(20:53):
underpinned by values driven policy, where we put an end
to concessional and subsidized trade actions, but also we pursued
separate but related to the trade actions and the terifi
negotiations that we conducted, we had a whole of government

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approach involving ten different agencies where we pursued good and
healthy infrastructure, finance and development throughout the world. So unlike
the developments that you just referred to in South Africa,
where China is seeking concessional development in a manner that
benefits them in South Africa, probably to the detriment of

(21:40):
the South African people, certainly detrimentally globally, the policies that
we pursued beginning in twenty countries in the Western Hemisphere,
South America and the Caribbean, and also in Asia were
infrastructure growth policies where we helped our partners in a
number of emerging markets globally to identify good value propositions

(22:06):
in their countries in infrastructure and energy, and helped those
countries structure those deals in a manner that could crowd
in private capital as opposed to subsidize public capital, all
to the benefit of those countries they're populous, and to

(22:27):
the globe so very much a different approach to development
and to trade. One is put it, simply taking advantage
and the other is seeking good global growth.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Okay, now, to broaden this out just a little bit,
what I see here is a clear conflict of interest
between what China wants the US wants, and I think
this tear of conversation in the back and forth is
just one piece of a much, much bigger puzzle. So
I want to ask you a question here, how do
you see this competition between Washington and Beijing playing out

(23:02):
in the future, Let's say five years out, maybe even
ten years out from today.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Well, it really all depends on who's sitting on Pennsylvania
Avenue at the end of it, Riley. You know, prior
to Trump forty five twenty seventeen, we had witnessed about
a decade of complacency. It was a decade of meetings
for the sake of meetings in the hopes that China

(23:30):
would change its model and its approach to global trade
and global development in global finance. That really didn't happen.
So what we saw in twenty seventeen was a very
principled approach where the President put America's interests first, put
global interests to play, and put his foot down essentially

(23:52):
and said I'm not going to have any more of it.
We're going to sit down at the table. We're going
to put our reasoned requirements to you on trade, on
protection of intellectual property, on cyber theft, and we're not
going to lead the table until we actually see progress

(24:13):
and we see benefits. In twenty twenty, we saw the
benefits and the fruits of those negotiations in the Phase
one Trade Agreement. That agreement was designed to close the
deficit gap, to protect US and other foreign intellectual property
in China and otherwise unfortunately COVID hit. As you're well aware,

(24:34):
we had a couple of years of abeyance and slowness
in the global markets. But then again throughout the Biden administration,
we saw similar complacency. And on day one when President
Trump came back in twenty twenty five, on January twenty first,
he almost immediately took terrifaction. Took strong, disruptive, highly focused, fast,

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more strategic and principled action, and there were two real
goals on both toward the same ends. One goal was
to close the global deficit. When the President stepped into
office on January twenty first, he faced a one point
two trillion dollar trade deficit. Through extraordinary work by the

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great team that he has negotiating agreements, he was able
to close trade agreements with roughly ten countries representing about
sixty seven percent of that one point two trillion dollars,
and that in and of itself is important. But the
benefit secondarily that closing those deals bring is that it

(25:44):
now allows the President and his team to focus on
the really big issue which is left on the trade table,
which is China, which represents roughly about twenty plus percent
of that remaining deficit.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Okay, understood. I think you're right. We'll have to see
how this issue bears out, but I think this tariff
strategy is it's something of a gamble, but it seems
to be working, and I pray that it does moving forward,
because what we have here is a clear conflict of
interest and call it a hollowing out of the middle class.
But between the automation, the offshoring, all of these factors
just completely undermining the average American worker. It's really distraught,

(26:20):
and so I'm really hopeful that we can just build
on this momentum moving forward and bring deliver more economic
opportunity and prosperity to the working class people of this country.
But with that said, Mitchell, I just want to thank
you for your time today and your expert insight into
this issue.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Thanks so much for Mammy rileyt have a great day.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Coming up next. President Trump assigned an order targeting the
left wing anarchist group Antifa, who's been responsible for many
of the riots that we've seen break out in this
country over the last five, ten, and even fifteen years.
More details about that and what it means after the
break Welcome back to the real story. Those who make

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peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. These words
were often attributed to JFK from a speech on the
very first anniversary of the creation of the Alliance for Progress,
an initiative created to counteract the rights of communism in
Latin America after the Cuban Revolution, and he spoke those
words write to Latin diplomats, warning them that if they

(27:38):
suppressed democratic and peaceful reforms, violence would follow. And violence
did under Fidel Castro in Cuba due to his fear
suppression of free speech and the persecution of dissenters, although
that's certainly no endorsement of Castro or his violent communist tactics.
But we bring this up though, because it's relevant to

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America today. There is an attack on free speech and
any dissent from the liberal norm is often met with
hatred or even violence, and even left wing organizations are
talking about it. For example, The Atlantic released an article
this week about the rise of left wing terrorism, saying
that attacks by the far left now outnumber those by

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the far right for the first time in nearly thirty years.
The core causes of this trend are debatable, but the
data itself isn't to that point. This article doesn't even
focus on all instances of violence, just those that meet
their specific definition of terrorism. Here's a real world example

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of this hostility in action. Recently, a group of young
men went to Tennessee State University and set up a
table to debate on campus. They had two signs with them,
one that said DEI should be illegal and another one
that said deport all illegals, now, let's talk. Their honest
intention was to engage in conversation with students around the

(29:03):
campus about the topics of their choosing, and they were
met with hostility even as they were being escorted away
by campus police. Students hurled foul language at them, made
up scene gestures, and even damaged their car. Now the
school released the following statement after the event. Today, a
group of individuals unaffiliated with Tennessee State University appeared on

(29:26):
campus without prior notice. In accordance with university policy, any
demonstration or protest activity requires advanced approval and permitting. Campus
police and staff responded promptly, and the individuals were escorted
from university grounds without incident. At all times, tsu' students
conducted themselves in a professional and respectful manner. The safety

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and well being of our students, faculty, and staff remain
our highest priority. PSU will continue to uphold policies and
ensure that campus remains safe, welcoming, an orderly environment for
all members of our community. But the young men and
some of the videos of this event really say otherwise.

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But now the question is how do we break this
cycle and get back to normalcy. Here with his thoughts
is Tennessee State Representative and candidate for US Congress in
the volunteer State Jody Barrett. Representative Barrett, thank you for joining.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
Me, Thank you, Riley, appreciate having me on.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
So in the wake of Charlie Kirk's horrific assassination, many
of us called for the rhetoric to come down. We
were hoping to see some more peace and a return
to normalcy. Instead, we've seen more violence and more hostility.

Speaker 6 (30:43):
What do you make of that, Well, I think people
are revealing themselves for who they really are and how
they really feel about those of us that are I
wouldn't even say on the right, those of us who
are in the middle of this country. You know, as
we've watched our friends on the left continue it consistently

(31:04):
move farther and farther left towards the radical progressive left,
I think they're running out of donors that are anywhere
close to being moderate anymore, and the only money left
for them to court just you know, pulls them further
and further in that direction. And we've saw it the
first time that President Trump took office. I think even

(31:25):
the article that you referenced admitted that that was the
first instance where radical left violence really started to go
on the incline in America. And we saw a brief
reprieve from that while the Biden administration was in power.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
But here we are again, President Trump is back in office.

Speaker 6 (31:45):
The Trump Arrangement syndrome is taking over the country, and unfortunately,
it's manifesting itself in a really ugly way.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
That's interesting. I was just going to bring that up.
You know, I would like to chalk this up to
just Trump arrangement syndrome. Don't like him. The media has
been attacking him for years, lying about him, misrepresenting his
policy platform and what he really stands for. But I
also think there's something much deeper and more profound going
on in this country. So I really want to ask you, genuinely,

(32:14):
do you think there are other factors here that are
driving this rise and violence and even as the Atlantic
put it terrorism.

Speaker 6 (32:23):
Well, sure, I think that Trump just tends to be
the face of what they're against, what they're opposing. Right now,
I think there's a every time we have an election
now anymore, over the last twenty years, it's been the
most important election of our lifetime, and the end of

(32:44):
America is hanging in the balance depending upon how you vote.
And when we continue to push that message and ingrain
that fear, that sense of fear into the American voter
and into the American culture, you know, the fight or
flight syndrome kicks in and people start reacting in a
way that they normally would not otherwise. So it feels

(33:06):
like there are greater forces at work here through the
way that we're connected now as a country, through digital means,
through the Internet, through social media, the psio ability of
outside forces or maybe even domestic forces we don't know,
that are pushing America to the brink and driving this

(33:28):
wedge between us.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
It's just becoming worse and worse year after year.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
And I just I get this feeling that we're I
don't want to predict here, because who am I right,
But I just get this feeling deep inside my bones
that we're boiling up to something bigger, something like what
we saw in twenty twenty, but even worse, more violent.
I don't know, and I really hope and pray to
God that I'm wrong, But I just I wonder if
you get the same feeling too, Because I walk around

(33:54):
the streets, I see the sniping back and forth online,
everybody's on edge. People are ancient, nervous, paranoid violence happening
almost on a daily basis, and it really just seems
like we're boiling up to some kind of big picture
moment in America where the bow breaks. I wonder if
you also have that feeling too.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
Well, Certainly as a conservative, I've walked around with a
different type of awareness of what's going on around me.
When I'm in big crowds and in places where we
are gathered. After Charlie Kirk's assassination, I get a similar
sense to I think what a lot of us felt
after post nine to eleven, going back into ballparks and

(34:37):
arenas and large crowds and worrying about you know, what
might happen if you put yourself in the wrong situation.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
At the wrong time. And so now.

Speaker 6 (34:46):
As a conservative, you know, we're looking at what's going
on on the left, what's what's going on with our youth,
and how they're being radicalized with the Internet, with with
the platforms that they're on on a regular basis, and
it's hard not to be a little bit wary about

(35:07):
where you're going and who you're going to be in
front of and what security is going to be available there.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
And then you know, this was one incident, and it
was huge.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
It has a gigantic impact, I think on our culture
and where we are as America. It certainly raised awareness,
but now the question is how do we react to
the next one. If there's another of them, if there's
another murder or assassination or attack.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
How does the right react.

Speaker 6 (35:33):
We reacted with prayer, with concern. You know, I think
as peaceful as we could possibly be. But what happens
is this continues to be a trend going in that direction.
At some point, as you said, there is a boiling
point that can be reached.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
There is. I hope we don't get there, but I
think the way to prevent that is through more peaceful action,
set a better example for people like Charlie Kirk did.
That's all you can really do as an individual. So
I'm trying my best to do that each and every day.
There's also a question about, like you said, law enforcement security.
Everybody's got to be vigilant, watch your six, be hyper

(36:12):
aware of your surroundings, travel with buddies, don't travel alone.
And I even just hate to think that we've come
to this place in modern America, but we have to
be realistic about where we are and the fact that
it could take a long time for us to get
to a more peaceful moment for the country. So with
all that said, sir, I just want to wish you
best of luck with your congressional campaign and thank you
for being on the show today.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
Thank you so much for having me on God bless.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Coming up next, YouTube looks to be once again embracing
freedom of speech on their platform, reinstating conservative and faith
based content creators. We'll talk to one of those content
creators about it after the break. Welcome back to the

(37:04):
real story. Out with the old and in with the new,
Out with the censorship and silencing, and in with the
respect for freedom of speech and individual empowerment. So in
a revealing letter to Congress this week, YouTube shared how
pressures from the Biden White House shaped past decisions on
COVID facts and election content, and now they're embracing a

(37:29):
fresh start, reinstating content creators across the board to uplift
freedom of speech and to open dialogue. Just to think
about the gravity of the situation and how good it is.
Over a million videos pulled for misinformation since the pandemic
start curbing some vital conversations, But now voices like that

(37:51):
of our next guest, The Earthworm Jim, creator removed in
twenty twenty one for blending faith and politics, just had
his channel fully stored hundreds of thousands of subs intact
videos back online. Even Joe Rogan, whose episodes faced demonetization
and restrictions for probing vaccine discussions is thriving with unrestricted

(38:15):
uploads once more. And remember the plandemic episode. That twenty
twenty viral video on COVID origins was swiftly removed, quieting millions.
But now in twenty twenty five, with YouTube's forward thinking pivot,
diverse viewpoints like that can flourish openly. It's a true

(38:36):
triumph for creators and audiences alike, heralding a brighter and
freer era of open expression. Now Here, with his insights,
thoughts and reaction is a YouTube sensation and a former
Hollywood animator. Doug to Naple, Doug, thank you for being here.

Speaker 7 (38:54):
Brother, Oh thanks for having me, Riley. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
So for just a really elucidate what's going on here
and just how important and positive this. The step is
talk to our audience about who you are, your content,
and most importantly your story.

Speaker 6 (39:12):
Sure.

Speaker 7 (39:13):
I've been a mass media artist my whole life, so
I have. I do graphic novels. There are long form
comic books. I've done twenty two of those. I've worked
all over Hollywood as an animator. I created a video
game character cultor throm Jim. So. I have a background
in video games, and so all I wanted to do

(39:33):
is talk to people. Right, YouTube and the social media
is a real dream come true for someone like me.
I'm kind of a natural performer, and so I love
sharing my politics and my faith. Also, so when YouTube,
you know, if someone gives me a free world wide
distribution channel, you know the world's biggest television network for free,

(39:57):
I'm going to put on a show, a number of shows,
and so I would mostly do pro MAGA, pro conservative
Republican content, and I'd also share my faith. I love
spreading the gospel. I loved doing some apologetics and then
just keep it positive and do some goofing around. So
I thought everything was fine. For ten years I had

(40:19):
a YouTube channel. Then suddenly in twenty twenty one, this
was shortly after the January sixth events and stuff like that,
and a lot of the election denial stuff came out,
which I was on that side of questioning things about
the election. Suddenly my channel, in fact, all of my
channels were completely wiped clean overnight and I was just

(40:39):
left without a voice.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
So let's talk about how that really impacted you and
your family. And then all things changed, because recently everything's
just been restored for you, hasn't it.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
That's true.

Speaker 7 (40:54):
Well, it affected my family, and that last month that
I was on YouTube was when my channel, after ten
years of it basically being dead, just me doing drawings,
when I started doing the Maga content, it totally blew up,
and I mean to a point of I was getting
like twenty four thousand subscribers a day.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
For two weeks.

Speaker 7 (41:14):
It shot up to like four hundred and fifty thousand subscribers,
And that first month I made in just an ad revenue,
about one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in one month.
And then it just instantly, so you go, oh, finally
my ship came in, and then suddenly your channel just
vanishes and I have no income, like no job because

(41:39):
I've been prepping this channel for so many years, and
it affects your family. It really kind of spooks you
where you feel like, is this my country? Do I
have free speech? Does a company have to allow me
on the air. That's some of the arguments that happened
with all social media now, whether if it's or Facebook

(42:01):
or YouTube, they're all asking the same questions and you
see it now with the Jimmy Kimmel situation is yes,
you know, can ABC take them off the air and
do they have an obligation to allow an audience see him. Well,
in my case, my audience wanted to see me and
they and I got vanished. And Jimmy Kimmel, you know,
he has his own audience and they want to see him,

(42:22):
and so there's always a market concern also where the
market also says, look, we're losing money on this guy.
We're paying too much for him, and the entertainment's not
bringing enough money, and so we don't want them in
certain ABC markets completely. That's kind of how it works.
So we're always balancing between our rights, our own desire
to communicate and tell the truth, especially political dissent I

(42:45):
think is most important. Yes to really you guys know
this as of course we have a lot of political dissent.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, and it's healthy, it's good for the country. But
what's really good for the country is because we know
this was really coming from Biden White House, This was
the Biden regime. Mark Zuckerberg has talked about this with
his platform at Meta, having people from inside the administration
literally putting pressure on them on these giant platforms, which
are so good for the country because they create space

(43:15):
for dialogue and discussion, like Charlie Kirk did in a way,
but it's even bigger than that, and we now know
for a fact that it was the Biden regime that
was putting the screws to the American people. Fast forward today,
it's a new dawn, new president, new cabinet, we have
new leadership in this massive platform, and you see the
change happening so quickly tell us more about how important

(43:38):
that is for you and beyond you, for other content
creators out there.

Speaker 7 (43:43):
It is super important for content creators. I think when
we're allowed to have free speech. I think these are
kind of rare days, especially after the Biden administration, which,
by the way, we now have with the confirmation that
they were influencing YouTube. Remember they also influenced Facebook, as
you said, under Zuckerberg, and then we also know through

(44:06):
Matt Tebe and the Twitter files that they also hit
Twitter hard canceling. This is a this is an actual party,
their White House going in and actively censoring normy citizens,
not even celebrities like Jimmy Kimmel, which someone if someone
wanted to make that hit against the Trump administration. Trump

(44:27):
is not out canceling thousands of channels that merely politically
disagree with him the way Biden did, and it's probably
it could even be in the millions of actual voices
and the amount of actual words that got removed. The
good news is YouTube let me back on after four

(44:47):
years of challenging them. They gave me back twelve of
my destroyed channels. They were fully monetized. I got all
of my audience back and all of my videos came
back on the air for the in exile channel. Wow,
I don't want I'm not here to punish them. I'm
here to reward them and congratulate them and thank them. Yes,

(45:11):
because you know, all I want to do is talk.
And now they let me talk. You and I talk.
And I want all patriots to go out and not
take for granted that we have a place in the
public now to show our descent. I want everyone to
go out and start channels. I want them to interact

(45:31):
with your chat. That's part of how the audience can
talk back, is they can come down in your comment
section and leave a comment. That's part of how you
the audience participate with Riley, and you're and you're allowed
to dissent, You're allowed to disagree. Well, welcome to America.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
What a novel concept, I know it. And just to
really hammer this home, because you're right, it's it's so profound,
what's happening. It's just such an indictment of the past
administration to think that what we got away from is
just so critical. It's really hard to underestimate that the
First Amendment, free speech is number one for a reason.
If we can't speak freely, we don't have a country,
we don't have a republic. It is integral to everything

(46:11):
that we're doing. So like you, relebrate this move. I
applaud it so much and I'm extremely grateful for it, truly.

Speaker 7 (46:16):
Real quick, Riley, Please, if Kamala Harris won, would we
be having this conversation right now.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
I really don't know. I don't, but I appreciate your
time and your insights. We'll be sure to have you
back on the show anytime.

Speaker 7 (46:32):
Dog.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
You're always welcome here, and thank you for everything you're
doing for the country. Please keep it.

Speaker 7 (46:37):
Up, my pleasure, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Coming up next, Today's edition of Real Good News includes
an incredible story about a dog, a police officer, a
burning building, and also a leash. More details about it
after the break. Welcome back to the real Story. On

(47:13):
today's edition of Real Good News, we have a fascinating
story about a very good boy that followed the rules
even in the face of danger. So back on September eleventh,
police in Aurora, Illinois, responded to a call about a
house fire in the suburbs. Officer Michael Eli and his

(47:33):
partner broke down the door of the house immediately beginning
to look for a dog that was reportedly inside the building,
and officers found the dog named Oakley, And well, we'll
show you what happened next. Where's the dog.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
Bottom?

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (47:56):
Body?

Speaker 5 (47:57):
Come on?

Speaker 6 (47:58):
Hmm, nobody what.

Speaker 5 (48:15):
You're a good boy?

Speaker 6 (48:19):
Come on?

Speaker 1 (48:23):
That's wow. I just just cannot believe that. See that
right there, that's a well trained K nine.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
See.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
At first, it looked like Oakley was just running away
from the scene, but in reality, he was really showing
Officer Eli to his leash. So Oakley, in spite of
the situation, in spite of being scared and maybe a
little anxious, and in spite of being met with a stranger,
led the officer right to his leash before leave the house.

(49:01):
I can only imagine how scared he was, and yet
he was still brave. That right there, that's courage and
that is commendable. Now, Officer eliet Or Eli told CBS
News the whole experience has taught him to keep a
leash at the front and the back door for his
family's dog just in case. And Oakley's family is just

(49:22):
grateful to the officers for saving their good boy. And
that concludes today's broadcast. We truly hope you enjoyed it,
and remember, we always want to hear from you, so
please email your feedback and any news stories you'd like
us to cover to the Real Story at oann dot
com and to follow us on social media at the

(49:42):
Real story An. So until we meet again, God bless you,
God bless our troops, and God bless America.
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