September 19, 2025 • 51 mins
What is to be done when a country is so divided that its citizens become violent toward each other? That's the question at the center of today's episode - join us for a fascinating discussion about it.
Guests:
Congressman Mike Kennedy | Utah's 3rd Congressional District
Sam Mirejovsky | Legal Analyst & Radio Host, What's Right Show
Addison McDowell | North Carolina's 6th Congressional District
Geoff Gilson | Lawyer, Former Speech Writer for Former UK Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher
Guests:
Congressman Mike Kennedy | Utah's 3rd Congressional District
Sam Mirejovsky | Legal Analyst & Radio Host, What's Right Show
Addison McDowell | North Carolina's 6th Congressional District
Geoff Gilson | Lawyer, Former Speech Writer for Former UK Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to the real Story. I'm your host, Riley Lewis.
Thank you for joining us. Imagine this. A twenty two
year old discord Reddit radical slips a sniper rifle into
a backpack, scribbles a hitlist topped with Charlie Kirk's name,
and unleashes a single kill shot into America's conservative evangelist
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revolutionary mid speech at Utah Valley University last Wednesday, right
there on a college campus where ideas it should be
able to clash freely without the fear of violence or
bullets flying. The accused assassin whose name we will not
be mentioning, then it just target a man. He declared
a war on free speech itself, one of the core
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pillars of this great country. And this declaration of war
sends the entire nation into shock, instantly prompting a huge
outpouring of support for Charlie Kirk and a wave of
condemnation of the violence that we all witnessed on that
fateful day. Then earlier this week, and a provo Utah
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courtroom beamed in virtually Utah County DA Jeff Gray laid
it all bare for the people. Aggravated murder felony discharge
of a firearm obstruction, witnessed tampering five ironclad counts, with
the death penalty firmly on the table. The evidence itself
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is quite damning, straight from the suspect's own hands, his
DNA smeared on the rifle, a screwdriver that he ditched
while fleeing the scene like a coward in the night.
Chilling text messages to his transgender identifying roommate confessing quote,
I had enough of his hatred and a shredded note
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vowing to take out Charlie Kirk one and for all.
It doesn't even stop there. Over twenty discord cronies are
now under the microscope radicalized rabbits in a digital warren,
gaming chatholes where they plot in the shadows, breeding hatred
and vitriol like rabbits and heat. And these aren't just
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isolated lunatics. They're a network fueled by online poison, turning
keyboards into kill lists. Now, Utah Governor Spencer Cox sees
right through it all and believes this reeks of twisted
radical left wing ideology run amok, the direct consequence of
high profile left wing politicians casually throwing around words like Nazi, fascist, xenophobe,
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not to mention the parrot legacy media who will basically
repeat anything they're fed by their DNC overlords without one
second thought. This brazen and truly evil attack wasn't just
about targeting Charlie Kirk. It was a gut punch to
the spirit in essence of bravery he exuded every single day,
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the unyielding American spirit that refused to back down from
the fight for truth, and Governor Cox hit the nail
on the head in the wake of this deadly assassination
with these extremely powerful remarks.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
This is certainly about the tragic death assassination political assassination
of Charlie Kirk, but it is also much bigger than
an attack on an individual. It is an attack on
all of us. It is an attack on the American experiment.
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It is an attack on our ideals.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Really, really well said and powerful.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Now we all know that Charlie is now with the Lord,
but the scar on our republic really runs deep. A
young man barely out of his teenage years, radicalized in
the echo chamber of social media, takes aim at one
of our boldest voices for conservative politics and really for
the glory of God and why Why did this happen
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seemingly because Kirk dared to speak uncomfortable truths about faith, family,
and freedom, truths that rattle the cages of the radical left.
And we've all seen the pattern at this point, from
campus shoutdowns to outright violence. The intolerance boils over when
words fail them. Even the FBI's own statistics show a
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twenty five percent spike and targeted political violence just since
the year twenty twenty. Yet how many of these digital
death cults actually get rained in before they strike far,
far too few. So this isn't just a crime. It's
a symptom of a society that's forgotten what real courage
and what real tolerance actually looks like, a society run
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by individuals more concerned with their pr than the welfare
of the people they represent. Justice is roaring for the
death penalty here, and perhaps it should, because if we
let these dark shadows breed unchecked, the likelihood of this
happening again increases a thousandfold. After all, people can commit
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heinous acts of violence without any real consequences, they will
continue to do so.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
But here's the.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Gut wrenching truth about everything we're saying. While the gavel
itself demands the ultimate price for attacking a patriot like
Charlie Kirk. Elsewhere, in this deeply divided and fractured country,
the scales of justice tip wildly the other way, from
snipernests on college quads to the streets of our cities.
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Our courts are bending over backward to give criminals the
bare minimum with regard to punishment, slapping wrists on ideologues
while the innocent bleed out. We've got discord, death cults
and basements. Manifesto is mailed like love letters and a
justice system that's lost its spine, cheering assassins as twisted
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avengers while dancing on the graves of real heroes like
Charlie Kirk. To say it's sickening just doesn't really do
it justice. It's more than that. And this society isn't
just lawless, it's lost its moral compass. So now it's
clearly time for massive change. It's time to reclaim law
and order, and we have to do so before the
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next trigger happy psychotic ideologue strikes Oh. Here with his
thoughts in analysis is gop Utah. Congressman Mike Kennedy, Congressman,
thank you for being here today.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Riley, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
So it's been a.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Few days since we had you on last on the show.
I just want to start with a quick check in
how are you doing and how is the community around
you doing.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
This has been a devastating attack on all of us,
but particularly Erica the widow, and these two children that
are left behind and fatherless. It's a tragedy and the
fact that this happened amongst three thousand plus individuals in
my community, and the travesty not only for Utah, but
also the United States of America that a noble warrior
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for freedom of speech, somebody who always engaged in a
non violent fashion, but in a vigorous fashion and debate
on civic discourse and civic lessons of life, is now
taken from us. Is a travesty and a stain on
American people. And it's the sort of thing that I
think your monologue at the beginning sets up well, is
there are evil minded individuals that apparently have no regard
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for life, and President Trump's on the hunt for those
kind of individuals. If you're going to make threats, viable
threats that is not protected by our constitutional privilege of
free speech, and when it comes to antifa, who and
organizations that are domestic terrorist organizations who are not only
going to help organize but also fund these efforts, or
if there's any commercial interests like violent video games, that
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those entities should be held to task and you can
bet the full weighted justice of the United States American
legal system. But also Congress are going to be looking
at those vigorously to make sure we're reigning those evil
forces in.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I have so many questions then to follow up on
that point, Congressman, let's start here clearly this we're seeing
a lot of hatred, vitriol, evil in this country, not
just from these radical actors, but for the people around
them who celebrate what's going on with glee. I want
to ask you, because I just can't figure it out,
exactly where do you think this kind of hatred is
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coming from.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Dehumanizing the other side seems to be modus operandi for
a lot of these people. The sad reality since when
you come to Columbine and the nine to eleven, there's
a culture of death all over the world, and we
can see that with terrorists all over the world, and
sadly it's in the middle of the United States of America,
and even in my district, we know that that's true.
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And this sort of thing needs to be fought against vigorously,
because when it comes to evil versus good, since the
beginning of mankind, we've been fighting these fights. But I
and my constituents, and I'll say the vast majority of
not only my constituents, but the American citizens, we utterly
reject these kind of efforts. But we've seen some pretty
repulsive since eight days ago the assassination of Charlie Kirk,
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we've seen some repulsive behaviors speech as well as behaviors
associated with this, and there's no regard for human life
and some of the hearts and minds of our people.
And that is repugnant to me and the vast majority
of people, and we should fight that every step of
the way, because otherwise the next trigger happy, deranged coward,
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instead of taking on a debate, is with violence, going
to try to suppress the views that they don't agree with.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I completely agree with that, sir. So what does that
fight against it really look like?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Well, it looks like first identifying the evil, and Senator
Mike Lee has already passed out of the scent of Flora,
condemning this filthy violence and mourning with Erica and those
children the loss of a man like Charlie Kirk, and
also promising and we're doing this on the House side
in the next twenty four to forty eight hours, passing
a resolution that commits that we as an American people,
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and I believe we can get Democrats and Republicans on
these resolutions, that we as an American people will stand
for freedom of speech, and that we will, with Charlie Kirk,
boldly move forward, debate vigorously and love completely to make
sure that we are not allowing violent, the rare violent
entities that are out there to win this public debate
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that is so vital for us to win in favor
of free speech and our God given protected rights.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I just I really appreciate that effort so much, so
thank you for that. And I really do hope and
pray that this is a bipartisan push, because it doesn't
matter who you are, what you think, or who you
voted for. Frankly, this kind of violence is just unacceptable
and it's evil, period.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Governor Cox is entirely right.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Attack on one as an attack on all, and we
all should fight vigorously against this. But when it comes
to people using their free speech to threaten more violence
and label people's Nazis and fascists, tipping over these psychotic
individuals from reality to unreality where they actually believe it's
appropriate to take another person's life, then that speech is irresponsible.
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And in fact, ilhan Omar was held out in a
censure movement yesterday. The emotion was tabled, and people can
look to their congressman and see how they voted on that.
But it is inappropriate for us to speak in such
violent terms about each other because I know my congressional
colleagues are not interested in violence specifically against each other,
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but their words may be reflective of an intent to
induce other people to take acts of violence. And this
idea that everybody's a fascist that disagrees with this idea
that everybody's a Nazi when they disagree with you, is
a very irresponsible position to take.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Completely agreed, and as we've seen with this attack and
some others, there's a real power to those words. I mean,
calling someone a Nazi, that's not a light thing. Calling
someone a fascist and autocratic dictator, these words have real
power to them, and they can set the stage for
the kind of violence we've just seen in the past
couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
So thank you for that as well.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Moving on then to the latest updates on the case
for the suspect in this assassination. I'm not going to
name him. I don't want to give him any credit
or glory at all because what he did is just
disgusting and evil. But I do wonder what's going to
happen here. We have some charges that he's facing. Do
you think the death penalty is the right way to
go ultimately here or do you see a different path
forward for holding him to justice.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
The County Attorney Jeff Gray has done a great job.
In fact, one of my congressional colleagues, who happens to
be an attorney, said he was appropriately boring in the
way that he approaches because we both know that as
a county attorney takes too much of an invested set
of statements, so they could potentially give the defense of
this individual an opportunity to use that in the case
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to the detriment of the case. Ultimately, So, County Attorney
Jeff Gray has done a good job, and when it
comes to the death penalty. I don't see with this
kind of assassination effort, I don't see why that would
not only be promulgated, but why it's highly likely that
this suspect will be held to account for that. And
in our state, we have not only execution by lethal injection,
but we have execution by the firing squad, and from
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what I understand, in the state law, and I'd have
to check this to make sure that the individual that's
prosecuted and found guilty that chooses the way that they
want to go. But this sort of poetic justice that
may come along with somebody who's going to fire a
bullet could potentially have a bullet fired at them, is
the sort of thing that when people take these sort
of behaviors, there's consequences, and you can't draw back when
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those actions are taken from the consequences that are currently
this individual face understood.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I'll be following the story very closely to see what
happens next. But I just want to say again I'm
praying here for his Fanaily and for Erica and his
beautiful children, for your community, Congressman, and really for this
whole country.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
So thank you for being here today.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Thank you. We can tell that you're praying and I
am as well. And I'll just say that these people
are not only Eric and those children, but the people
that witness this horrific event all over the country, but
those that were there present, they're suffering terribly associated with this,
and it's actually on the other side, an opportunity for
people to respond, as you have, through prayer, but also
through action to help each other. And I've seen a
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lot of community effort to heal after this tragic event.
And God bless the good people in my district in
the United States of America as we try to move
forward from these horrific events that happen.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Very well said, and thank you for that, sir. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Coming up next, moving from one horrific tragedy right to another,
one of our resident legal experts will join us to
discuss the latest updates about the disturbing case of Luigi Mangioni,
the man who allegedly gunned down United Healthcare CEO Brian
Thompson and cold blood.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
More details about it after the.
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Speaker 1 (15:27):
Welcome back to the Real Story, Continuing our coverage of
the erosion of courage and the rise of unfettered hatred
in modern America. We look two thousand miles east of
the tragedy in Utah and the rot festers deeper still.
So Luigi Mangioni, the twenty six year old self anointed judge,
jury and executioner who allegedly stalked and murdered United Healthcare
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CEO Brian Thompson outside of a Manhattan hotel on December
fourth last year. His bulletshell casings etched with words like deny, deposed,
delay Walston to court.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
This week like he owned the.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Place as a matter of fact, and what happened. His
terrorism charge dropped, his first degree murder charge dulled down
to second degree. He still faces weapons and forgery charges. Sure,
but Judge Gregory Carrow tossed the top counts in a
twelve page punt, writing, there's no evidence of a desire
to terrorize the public. Strongly disagreed, by the way, but
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he called it a heinous but targeted hit. But what
about Maggioni's manifesto, A blistering screed against corporate creed, fake
bullets in his backpack, screaming revolution. See, this was no
random act. It was a calculated message. Second degree murder
sticks plus federal heat in Pennsylvania where he was ultimately nabbed.
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But the next hearing won't even happen until December. First
prosecutors raged that this was a social and political message
to the public, yet the judge just shrugged it off.
Now the judges or Judge Carrow's a hero to the
green clad pitchfork crowd and a monster to the rest
of us who see a dad of two gunned down
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in cold blood just for doing his job. So let's
face it. One radical snuff's of voice for freedom on
a college stage. Connect the dots on this national nightmare.
A basement bred fanatic levels a scope at a champion
of liberty, and a very loud, very dark portion of
the internet celebrates it with joyful glee. Here we have
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a self styled vigilante who blasts away at a hard
working father in broad daylight for some warped notion of justice,
and the bench handsome a velvet glove instead of an
iron fist. Whether it's calculated campus crosshairs or urban alley executions,
our legal hall sway like willows in a storm of
selective outrage, coddling crusaders with kid gloves as victim's blood
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stains the pavement. We're not merely adrift into anarchy. We
forfeited our backbone, toasting Triggerman as folk heroes, all while
denigrating the life and legacy of one of the most
courageous and brightest young mans our country has ever seen.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Now here with reaction.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
As attorney, legal analyst and host of the What's Right Show,
Sam Mirojowski, Sam, thank you for joining me.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Riley, thank you for having me. Good to be here
with you.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
It's good to have you despite these circumstances. Now, I
have some legal questions for you, but I want to
start with a political one first. You look at someone
like Luigi Mangioni and what he allegedly did to Brian Thompson.
How did we get to a place in America where
people like that, the bad guys, are celebrated like folk heroes.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
It's easy. You have thirty forty years of political indoctrination,
starting in elementary school, high school, and through college. You know,
I thought the worst part of this entire ruling was
that outside the courthouse people were cheering it. There were
the crowd, there was a literally a fan club for
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Luigimi and Gioni, and they were out there in full
celebration mode. Uh. So I think that's you know, that
is something we are We need to clean up the
culture of our country. Yes, uh, and it's going to
take some time. It's not going to happen overnight.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well, so I want to follow up on that point
because there's the law, there's holding these these clowns to
account for what they've done allegedly done. But really this
is a deeper cultural issue and I don't know how
you go about bringing that change.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
So what are your thoughts about that, Sam Well? I,
you know, I'm a huge fan of Christopher Rufo and
one of the things I like that he has he
has brought about is is getting conservatives to begin thinking
about reclaiming public institutions. Know, we ceded a territory and
ground to the left, and and and kind of just
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you know, hands off laisse fair. We're gonna, we're gonna
we're conservatives. So we're not you know, we're not going
to take a heavy hand and and try to push
our ideology. Now, we have to begin teaching people to
love the country. We have to begin teaching in schools
that capitalism, the fact is simple fact that that it's
lifted more people out of poverty than any other system,
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economic system, or political system in the history of the world.
We have to begin I hate to say it, but
re educating young people, and and and and it will.
It has to start now. And and so I you know,
I love what the Trump administration is doing, going after
funding for universities to teach hate, going after going after
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school systems. You know, we we have a lot of power.
When we are in power. We can withhold federal funding.
We can we can get them to bend to our will.
It's so we finally have a Republican president who gets
it and who has the stomach for the battle. They're
not going to go easy into the night. Look at
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Randy Weingarten and the horrible essaysue just penned. They know
what's coming. They're fearful of us. And it's good, No,
I hear you.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
And you know, just before we pivot as well.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I will say I think President Trump's actually set a
remarkable example. He lived through two assassination attempts in less
than two months. He was shot in the face in Butler, Pennsylvania,
in front of the entire world, and he never called
for violence or retribution. He called for patriotism and unity
in this country. So I'm glad that you brought him
up because I think he set the example best. These
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are the most important times we have to model peace.
We have to make it very clear, whatever your thoughts
are about big Pharma, about the healthcare industry, this kind
of violence is unacceptable, and two wrongs don't make it right,
by the way, So I think it's really important that
we looked at that example from President Trump on this
because he set a very good one for the country.
But now moving to the case with MANGIONI, it seems
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like they're just treating him with kid gloves. I don't
understand why. Maybe they don't have a strong enough case
against him, but give us your legal analysis of the case.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
So far.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Well, I can't believe I'm on the side of Alvin Bragg.
I think that's I think that's where I'm where. I
kind of had to do a gut check because brag
to his credit, was fighting tooth and nail for the
murder one here, wow, the yeah, if you can believe.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
I can't believe that, but please go ahead.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Now, maybe if cynics out there will say he maybe
wasn't as as persuasive as you should have been, but no,
he was fighting for it if you look through the records. Okay,
So here's the problem. Fundamentally is New York law allows
for murder in the first degree in cases where the
murder was premeditated, and then there is a set there's
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a list of maybe eight or nine special sircumstances. The
only circumstance, the special circumstance that fits this really is
the terrorism uh, the terrorism charge, right, And you know,
certainly I think I'm just speaking now as a lawyer
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putting that hat on. I think, you know, the definition
is to intimidate or coerce a civilian population through it
through you know, violence, into a you know, influenced governmental policy.
I don't I don't know what evidence they have of that,
of that, and that might be so to me. I
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believe that it was a wobbler legally speaking. Now I
want to be very clear, the second degree murder charge
is still there. He could still get twenty five to life. Functionally,
he could be punished in New York the exact same
way for murder two as he would be for murder one.
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It just doesn't carry an automatic life sentence, got it.
And that is that. And now that matters to me
because I think this guy, you know, ought to burn,
burn in hell and stay in prison for the rest
of his life.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
But but app absent that very specific condition in the
way the statute has written. I think it's a it's
a tough road understood.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
We'll have to see what happens moving forward, and we'll
be sure to bring you back on when we have
more information, Sam. But thank you for the analysis and
that insight today.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
You're welcome, Briley, great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Coming up next, Continuing with the theme of bringing peace
to the streets of America and stopping the scourge of violence,
today's next segment goes out to a young girl was
recently slain by an illegal immigrant who had previously been deported.
More details after the break.
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Speaker 1 (25:12):
Welcome back to the real story. Let's continue with this
theme of violence on the streets of America. So it
was in Elmhurst, New York, this past Saturday when deported
Honduran illegal immigrant Edwin Cruz Gomez slapped with d uys
both in twenty thirteen and also January of this year,
drunkenly plowed his Chevy suburban into sixteen year old Johanni
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Gomez Alvarez, crushing her against a bar pillar to death
after she rejected his sleazy sexual advances. A girl with
her entire life ahead of her stuffed out, largely because
Joe Biden's Catch and Release circus ignored ice detainers.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Again, this has.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Happened over and over and over again, like some sort
of blood soaked rerun. Earlier this week, even we reported
on Cuban illegal immigrant Grdonus Cobos Martinez, who hacked off
the head of a fifty year old or motel manager
with a machete in front of his own wife and children.
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And this story echoes the February twenty twenty four bludgeoning
of Georgia nursing student Lake and Riley, tragically beaten with
a rock on her jog by Venezuelan illegal immigrant Jose Ibarra,
who waltzed across our poor southern border despite red flags.
The last five years have taken a grim toll on
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our nation, with Rachel morn, a mother of five, raped
and murdered on a trail in Maryland in twenty twenty
three by salvador and fugitive Victor Martinez Hernandez. Or how
about the case of twelve year old Joscelyn Nungerai, who
was strangled and dumped into a Houston creek last June
by two Venezuelan cartel wannabes. Or what about Kayla Hamilton,
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just twenty years old, raped and decapitated in twenty twenty
two in Maryland by an MS thirteen Salvadoran thug. Now
Ice admits that over thirteen thousand known immigrant murderers still
roam free here in America. And what exactly do our
liberal and progressive overlords have to say about it? Frankly,
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they're all in pushing amnesty and open gates to remake
America's map, stacking the deck with imported voters wh will
keep their grip on power tight, because why protect American
citizens and the innocent when you can play demographics for
keeps And for those of you who are keeping score,
this is yet another devastating murder of a young, innocent
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American who was full of life and which could have
been prevented had the previous administration actually deported the dangerous,
murderous criminal lunatics that ICE.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Had previously detained.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Here with his thoughts, analysis, and reaction is North Carolina
GOP Representative Addison McDowell representative.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Thank you for being here today. You got it, Riley.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I want to get your initial thoughts of the story.
It's heartbreaking, it's obviously not fair, and I just don't
know where we go from here as a nation.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
So what are your initial thoughts about it?
Speaker 7 (28:22):
Well, I think that it's important to remember, Riley, that
you know Joe Biden and his administration, they led in
or they had eleven million encounters at the border for
President Trump in his first nine months. That has been
one percent of what has happened in his presidency. This
didn't take new laws. It took new leadership, and that's
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thank god, that's what we have back in the White House.
One of the things that you said, you called the
Biden administration what they did a catch and release circus,
and I believe that that is actually an insult to
a circus because that gives credibility that they knew what
they were doing, and they didn't. It was incompetence, and
what it's doing is getting people killed. And so, you know,
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thank the Lord that Republicans got back in the White
House and the President Donald Trump and his team are
in the White House and they are not sleeping until
we get this all taken care of. Because as American citizens,
you have to be safe and you have to believe
that you are safe, and you can't have a government
that is just letting these people into our country.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Completely, And to follow up with you, there one point
that just really it really disturbs me, Congressman. So I
want to get your thoughts about it, Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Kamala Harris all a Hundre.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
My orcis they open the floodgates to we'll say ten
to eleven million people, maybe the number is even bigger
than that. We have people with convicted records, right people,
you know, people convicted of homicide, kidnapping. We have drug traffickers,
human traffickers, suspected terrorists on the FBI watch list. They
flood into the country for the sole purpose of harming
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our fellow Americans, and then after it's all said and done,
Joe Biden just gets away with it. He walks away
from the White House. We have President Trump reclaim office
or retake office after a landslide victory. But the people
who created this mess have seen zero accountability. They're not
held responsible for it, and that just doesn't sit right
with me. I don't know what we could possibly do
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about it, but I want to ask you if that's
also bothersome to you, because the people who are really
responsible for this kind of a crisis have paid no
price for it themselves.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Yeah, you're exactly right. It is a shame that Vice
President Harris and President Biden could do what they did
to our country and just get away. And you know
now they're writing books and doing what they'll do while
precious innocent young lives in New York City are taken
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by these evil illegal aliens that Joe Biden and Kamala
Harris just let into our country, and it's you know,
there needs to be accountability. And I think that folks
in the else, like Chairman Jim Jordan and Chairman Comer
on Oversight, we're dragging these people back to the Capitol
Hill to answer for what they've done, because these families
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that have been destroyed forever by these illegals deserve answers
and we have to give it to them.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
You know, these situations, these tragedies are cropping up all
over the country. It goes to show that things to
Joe Biden and his actions, every state is basically becoming
a border state. So I want to ask you, then,
what are you hearing from your constituents, if anything, about
border security, the lasting impacts of that crisis that was
created by the previous administration, because from what I can tell,
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everybody around the country right now is on edge about it,
and rightfully so, sir.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
Sure, well, I think you know, the problem is fifty
percent solved. The border is secure thanks to the leadership
of President Trump and his team. The border secure. You know,
we don't have encounters like we did. We're not letting
these these terrorists, these rapists, these killers into our country anymore.
But the problem is there were eleven million encounters under
Joe Biden. We don't know how many people got away,
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so it was probably upwards of that. And so we
now have those people in our countries. And so that's
what we have to do. And you know, the President's
team has been very focused on identifying who these people
are and getting them out. But the sheer volume of
people that the Biden presidency allowed to come into our country,
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it's going to take time to get them all out
of our country. And so we've got to be vigilant,
and we have to be fast now as fast as
we can. But you know, this poor, you know, young
woman in New York, This was a tragedy that didn't
need to happen. And I think that President Trump has
proven that because all it took was a new executive,
a new commander in chief that just said, hey, if
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you come to America now, you're not getting a free
cell phone, a free hotel room, and a thousand dollars
visa prepaid gift card. You're getting the first class ticket
back out of our country. And that's that's all it took.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
To your point, Congressman I'm about to get your thought
or your assessment about the current performance we're seeing from
people like borders are Tom Homan, d h S, Secretary
Christy Nome, and everybody in this current administration who seems
to be working extremely hard and tirelessly to right the
wrongs of the past. What is your assessment of their
job performance to date.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
I think that they are doing an absolutely phenomenal job.
They work very well together, and that you know, Tom
Homan is he is the man. I mean, you know,
we've got a guy that I if, you know, if
I'm an illegal and I'm sleeping in the United States,
the last thing I think about before I go to
bed is God, I hope that guy doesn't show up.
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And and you know, I think him and Secretary Nome
and all of the cabinet and you know, and the
President and the Vice President are doing a fantastic job.
They've focused on this because the most urgent need that
we had as a country is we have to be safe.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yes, and so.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
I'm grateful for the work that they're doing. They're doing
a fantastic job, and any support that they need out
of the Legend branch, I'll do what we can to
make sure they get it.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
So, speaking of them, let's come back to New York City,
or to New York where this horrific tragedy unfolded on Saturday.
I don't know what the next steps are, but it's
very frustrating. You have someone with a criminal record, who
was previously deported, who came back into the country illegally
again stole an American life, just like that in cold blood.
What is the next step in the process for detaining
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this individual, apprehending them, and delivering justice to them.
Speaker 7 (34:29):
Well, I think, you know, the thing that gives me
pause is just knowing what her family's going through. I
lost my little brother to a fentanyl poisoning, and so
I know what it's like to lose somebody to open
border policies that the Democrats have pushed. And so i'm
you know, I feel very very sorry for their families
that leadership or a lack of leadership in Washington resulted
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in death. It resulted in their family being forever broken,
and now they have to move forward. And I can
imagine because it's what I wanted. It's why I ran
for Congress. I wanted leadership in Congress and Washington DC
that actually did something about it, not just said, you
know what, there's fentanel flowing across our southern border. We're
gonna just let it keep coming. I wanted somebody that
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would say it's gonna stop. It's gonna stop right now,
and that's what I've tried to be. But I just
feel so sad for their families because that's not what
they deserved. They didn't deserve that. They deserve leadership that
didn't allow this to happen in the first place. And
so I'm just so sorry to them.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I am praying for them.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
We need patriots now more than ever, to stand by
what is right and to fight for the American people.
So I know you're a busy person, but I want
to thank you for your time today and thank you
for your insight as well.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
You got it. Thanks so much, Riley.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Coming up next, President Trump, in quite the display of
a regal splendor, makes a historic visit to the United Kingdom,
and an expert on UK politics joins us to discuss
how it went and all the key takeaways from that visit.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
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Speaker 1 (36:25):
Welcome back to the Real Story. Today's next segment takes
us in a much different direction than we've been to date.
So the next topic, one that's a little more heartwarming,
revolves around President Trump's recent trip to the United Kingdom. So,
President Trump, in what seems to be a display of
regal splendor that would make even the Founding Fathers tip
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their tricorn hats, reveled in the pomp of his historic
second state visit to the United Kingdom on Wednesday at
the majestic Windsor Castle. So picture this a glittering carriage
procession rolling through the cheering crowds linked by about thirteen
hundred crisp uniformed British troops, with President Trump and the
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First Lady at the side of His Majesty, King Charles
and Queen Camilla. From the thunderous flypass of the red
arrows slicing to the sguise to a wreath laying at
Saint George's Chapel in honor of the late Queen Elizabeth,
who graciously hosted President Trump back in twenty nineteen. The
day unfolded like a living tapestry of Anglo American kinship,
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and his banquet speech, President Trump said, the bond of
kinship and identity between America and the United Kingdom. Is
priceless and eternal. It's irreplaceable and unbreakable. That brings us,
then to the meat and potatoes of this visit. British
Prime Minister Cure Starmer rolled out the red carpet not
just for show, but to lock in billions and deals
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that put American jobs first. Think some forty two billion
pouring in from tech giants like Microsoft in Nvidia, Google
and even open Ai into artificial intelligence, quantum computing, and
clean nuclear energy right here on American soil. Trump even
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hailed the UK's role in his administration's very first trade pact.
And now they're talking tariff slashed on things like steel, Scotch, whiskey,
and wild salmon to supercharge exports from our heartland farms
and factories. So what exactly does this mean for the
American people other than maybe some cheaper bottles of Johnny Walker?
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And what does it mean for the people of the
UK and most importantly, what does it mean for the
future of the relationship between the US and the UK.
Here with his expert analysis is lawyer and former speechwriter
for UK Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher Jeff Gilson. Jeff, thank
you for being here today, sir.
Speaker 8 (38:49):
Well, thank you Ronie for having me.
Speaker 9 (38:51):
And I will say, without minimizing the events of the
last few weeks, it is nice to take a bit
of a break things happening in the world. And as
you said, this is a very heartwarming moment. And some
of young viewers may say, well, so what it's it's
Great Britain and the United States. Does Great Britain matter anymore?
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And the answer is yes, it does. In its own regard.
Speaker 8 (39:16):
Great Britain still has one of the largest economies in the.
Speaker 9 (39:19):
World, and more than that, it is still a gateway
to Europe. In fact, even though it is no longer
part of the European Union, it can be seen as
as an offshore island that has close links to the
European Union. Starmer is much more pro European Union than
his predecessor of conservative colleagues, and so it is something
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of a launch pad. So even though it may just
have been seen to be all about gilded carriacters, and
that's very important. It's very important as a stepping stone
into Europe. And it's not so much that there were
many things to announced, like a deal on Ukraine or Gaza.
Speaker 8 (40:00):
In fact, they disagreed on Gaza.
Speaker 9 (40:02):
Great Britain is involved in many of the things where
it's useful for the Europe for the United States to
have a partner who is one step removed.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
You know, just following up.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Then, on that note, Jeff, there's a lot of talk
about Prime Minister Starmer here in America. Some people are
a little skeptical of him. Other people seem to really
like him and be fond of what he's done. But
we're just outsiders here in the US in that regard.
So I want to get your perspective on who he
is and his job performance in the role to date.
Speaker 9 (40:33):
It's very interesting, actually, because he is in deep trouble
in Great Britain, and both President Trump and Starmer wanted
something more than concrete announcements from this visit. They wanted
a break. Stalman needed a break from political trumpsies having
at home. Trump wanted to get away from Washington for
a while. Trump loves regal regalia and Starmer likes to
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show off the world stage. But the funny thing is
that Starmer is actually failing in Great.
Speaker 8 (41:05):
Britain for the very reason that he's useful to Trump.
Speaker 9 (41:08):
Starmer is basically a backroom person, a very senior backroom person.
He's a very good operator. He's a very good bureaucrat.
He has strong links to Europe and can provide a
bridge between Trump and Europe. And this is why I
think Trump gets on with him because Trump Starma doesn't
pretend he is anything more than he is. He is
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a significant prime minister. But he provides Trump with that
with that bridge. But it is precisely because he's a
bureaucrat and not a band with native political instincts that
he is not performing well for the British people.
Speaker 8 (41:43):
Does that all make sense?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
It does, and it leads me to a question of
sort of break it down, simplify a little bit. I'm wondering,
just day to day talking to Britons, is Starma a
popular individual.
Speaker 9 (41:56):
No, he's very very unpopular. I'm a weird person. I'm
a weird person, but I'm both British and American, and
in America I have been a Democrat, although I'm not
one now because more of an independent, because I'm just
so disappointed with what Democrats are doing. And in Great Britain,
I've always been a member of the British Conservative Party,
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and Conservative in Great Britain that doesn't have quite the
same connotation. Think more Nicky Haley than Donald Trump. If
it was America. The Conservative Party for the last fourteen
years when they were in government failed miserably. I say
that as a British Conservative we focused on all the
wrong things and we didn't have much direction. And Starmer
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promised direction and all the Britain Britons have seen for
the past fifteen months is the same lack of direction,
and they are very unhappy with them. And if you
think politics in the United States is volatile, it's way
more volatile in Great Britain. At the moment, it is
projected that Starmer will lose the election in the next
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couple of years and will lose a Parliamental majority of
one hundred mating members, which is huge to Nigel Farage,
leader of a party that has only fought one general
election and final Farrage is projected to come out of
the winner with an equally large majority. That's how much
it is viewed is going to swing. But Starmer is
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viewed as an enormous failure as a prime minister. But
he is for the same reason. So I said, a
very good partner for Trump. And it's remarkable. And I
can say this and some of my British friends and
some of my American friends will blanch when I say it.
They have a surprisingly good relationship because they understand what
each of them brings to the relationship. Starmer brings cool headed,
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a sort of bureaucratic poise, and Trump brings fire and
they know that and it works well.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Since you also brought this individual up, I really want
to get your thoughts about Nigel Farage. I remember when
he first broke out of the scene with the Brexit movement.
I guess that was about twenty fifteen. That was a
fascinating thing to see. It was a clear rebuke of
the status quo in the UK, and I, as an American,
had a lot.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Of questions and I still do.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
So just walk us through your thought process about Nigel,
what he's done in Nigia politics and people's opinion of him.
Speaker 9 (44:20):
Now, yeah, Nigel Farrage actually came on the scene much
earlier than that. I go all the way back to
Margaret Thatcher. Margaret Thatcher was forced from power in nineteen
nineteen very unhappily, and the right wing of the Conservative
Party was never happy after that. And shortly after she
was forced out, something called the Referendum Movement start, which
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became the Referendum Party, and that then morphed into something
called the United Kingdom Independence Party, which then morphed into
the Brexit Party, which became Reform, which is what it
is now. And every step along the way, Nigel Farage
was there, and he grew, and his political exports exploits grew,
and he was very successful in Europe and was very
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successful in getting Great Britain out of the European Union.
But even after the last election he managed to get
only eleven percent in the polls and four members of
four members of Parliament in the House of Commons. Nobody
foresaw what was going to happen, because in this past year,
just as Starmer has become unpopular, and Starmer's Labor Party
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had forty eight percent at the last election fifteen months ago,
they now run at eighteen. They've lost thirty points in
the polls. When Trump's having a bad day, he goes
from forty five to thirty eight. Starmer went from forty
eight to eighteen. Wow. At the same time, Farage has
gone from eleven percent to thirty four percent, leading by
(45:49):
a good fifteen points in the polls and the people
who see but this is transitory. I've been engaged in
British politics for while, since i was sixteen. I'm a
little older than sixteen, now forty to fifty years. No
Nigel Farage, in my view, is going to win the
next election. Personally, I don't much care for him, don't
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really care for some of his politics. But there is
undoubted It is undoubtedly the case that just as Donald
Trumps is the colossus in Washington politics, Farage has become
the colossus in Westminster politics. And no one really saw
it happening. And even though this may seem anachronistic, it's
not particularly under Starmer, and with his close relations with
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European Union, he offers a doorstep, a bridge to Europe.
He also offers a bridge to something called the Commonwealth.
There is about one hundred nations in the world that
used to be part of the British Empire, and under
Elizabeth and now Charles, they have maintained very strong economic
links to Great Britain. So Great Britain is a bridge
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to two huge sources of economic and business.
Speaker 8 (46:57):
Influence in the United States. So very helpful with negotiating.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Terms understood, And you know, Jeff, I appreciate your time
and your insight. You know, for US Americans it can
be a little difficult sometimes to really understand the intermachinations
of UK politics. So I just appreciate your time today
and your analysis.
Speaker 8 (47:16):
Ronnie, thank you very much. Thank you for having me
on the show.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Coming up next, on today's edition of Real Good News,
we pay our tribute to one of the most beloved actors, directors,
and producers in all of American history, who tragically passed
away earlier this week.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
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Welcome back to the Real Story. On today's edition of
Real Good News, we'd like to pay special homage to
film mogul, actor, producer, and director Robert Redford, who tragically
passed away on Tuesday at the age of eighty nine
years old. His publicist said that when he died, he
was at his home at Sundance and the Mountains of Utah,
the place he loved, surrounded by those he loved. Now,
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no cause of death was provided in this statement, However,
I think everybody knows mister Redford was truly a titan
and a visionary in his industry, becoming one of the
biggest stars of his time and eventually starting the sun
Dance Institute, named after his character from the iconic film
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid in nineteen eighty one
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to promote independent film. Now you may not have known it,
but the Sundance Film Festival itself can really be credited
to mister Redford, which led to him being known as
the godfather of independent film.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
In fact, some.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Very notable movies, maybe even some of your favorites, came
out of this film festival. Think The Blair Witch Project,
Garden State, and even Napoleon Dynamite, a personal favorite of mine. Now,
some of mister Redford's own most famous roles were things
like Barefoot in the Park, Jeremiah Johnson, The Sting, The
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Great Gatsby, and The Candidate. And after his accomplished acting career,
he shifted his focus to producing and directing film, leading
him to earn an Oscar for Best Director in nineteen
eighty for Ordinary People. He also directed A River Runs
Through It, starring Brad Pitt and Craig Sheffer, and in
twenty sixteen he was presented the Presidential Medal of Freedom
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by former President Barack Obama for his influential work as
an actor, a director, and a producer. And in twenty eighteen,
just two years later, he started what he dubbed his
farewell movie, The Old Man and the Gun, where he
played a man who escaped from San Quentin prison. He
left a lasting influence on all of Hollywood and the
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film industry as a whole, becoming a household name among
movie lovers, and to that point, we truly cannot underestimate
or understate our respect for him. Now, our thoughts and
prayers go out to his loved ones and to his
fans all over the world. And that concludes today's broadcast.
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Welcome to the real Story. I'm your host, Riley Lewis.
Thank you for joining us. Imagine this. A twenty two
year old discord Reddit radical slips a sniper rifle into
a backpack, scribbles a hitlist topped with Charlie Kirk's name,
and unleashes a single kill shot into America's conservative evangelist
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revolutionary mid speech at Utah Valley University last Wednesday, right
there on a college campus where ideas it should be
able to clash freely without the fear of violence or
bullets flying. The accused assassin whose name we will not
be mentioning, then it just target a man. He declared
a war on free speech itself, one of the core
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pillars of this great country. And this declaration of war
sends the entire nation into shock, instantly prompting a huge
outpouring of support for Charlie Kirk and a wave of
condemnation of the violence that we all witnessed on that
fateful day. Then earlier this week, and a provo Utah
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courtroom beamed in virtually Utah County DA Jeff Gray laid
it all bare for the people. Aggravated murder felony discharge
of a firearm obstruction, witnessed tampering five ironclad counts, with
the death penalty firmly on the table. The evidence itself
(01:37):
is quite damning, straight from the suspect's own hands, his
DNA smeared on the rifle, a screwdriver that he ditched
while fleeing the scene like a coward in the night.
Chilling text messages to his transgender identifying roommate confessing quote,
I had enough of his hatred and a shredded note
(01:57):
vowing to take out Charlie Kirk one and for all.
It doesn't even stop there. Over twenty discord cronies are
now under the microscope radicalized rabbits in a digital warren,
gaming chatholes where they plot in the shadows, breeding hatred
and vitriol like rabbits and heat. And these aren't just
(02:19):
isolated lunatics. They're a network fueled by online poison, turning
keyboards into kill lists. Now, Utah Governor Spencer Cox sees
right through it all and believes this reeks of twisted
radical left wing ideology run amok, the direct consequence of
high profile left wing politicians casually throwing around words like Nazi, fascist, xenophobe,
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not to mention the parrot legacy media who will basically
repeat anything they're fed by their DNC overlords without one
second thought. This brazen and truly evil attack wasn't just
about targeting Charlie Kirk. It was a gut punch to
the spirit in essence of bravery he exuded every single day,
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the unyielding American spirit that refused to back down from
the fight for truth, and Governor Cox hit the nail
on the head in the wake of this deadly assassination
with these extremely powerful remarks.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
This is certainly about the tragic death assassination political assassination
of Charlie Kirk, but it is also much bigger than
an attack on an individual. It is an attack on
all of us. It is an attack on the American experiment.
(03:41):
It is an attack on our ideals.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Really, really well said and powerful.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Now we all know that Charlie is now with the Lord,
but the scar on our republic really runs deep. A
young man barely out of his teenage years, radicalized in
the echo chamber of social media, takes aim at one
of our boldest voices for conservative politics and really for
the glory of God and why Why did this happen
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seemingly because Kirk dared to speak uncomfortable truths about faith, family,
and freedom, truths that rattle the cages of the radical left.
And we've all seen the pattern at this point, from
campus shoutdowns to outright violence. The intolerance boils over when
words fail them. Even the FBI's own statistics show a
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twenty five percent spike and targeted political violence just since
the year twenty twenty. Yet how many of these digital
death cults actually get rained in before they strike far,
far too few. So this isn't just a crime. It's
a symptom of a society that's forgotten what real courage
and what real tolerance actually looks like, a society run
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by individuals more concerned with their pr than the welfare
of the people they represent. Justice is roaring for the
death penalty here, and perhaps it should, because if we
let these dark shadows breed unchecked, the likelihood of this
happening again increases a thousandfold. After all, people can commit
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heinous acts of violence without any real consequences, they will
continue to do so.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
But here's the.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Gut wrenching truth about everything we're saying. While the gavel
itself demands the ultimate price for attacking a patriot like
Charlie Kirk. Elsewhere, in this deeply divided and fractured country,
the scales of justice tip wildly the other way, from
snipernests on college quads to the streets of our cities.
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Our courts are bending over backward to give criminals the
bare minimum with regard to punishment, slapping wrists on ideologues
while the innocent bleed out. We've got discord, death cults
and basements. Manifesto is mailed like love letters and a
justice system that's lost its spine, cheering assassins as twisted
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avengers while dancing on the graves of real heroes like
Charlie Kirk. To say it's sickening just doesn't really do
it justice. It's more than that. And this society isn't
just lawless, it's lost its moral compass. So now it's
clearly time for massive change. It's time to reclaim law
and order, and we have to do so before the
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next trigger happy psychotic ideologue strikes Oh. Here with his
thoughts in analysis is gop Utah. Congressman Mike Kennedy, Congressman,
thank you for being here today.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Riley, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
So it's been a.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Few days since we had you on last on the show.
I just want to start with a quick check in
how are you doing and how is the community around
you doing.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
This has been a devastating attack on all of us,
but particularly Erica the widow, and these two children that
are left behind and fatherless. It's a tragedy and the
fact that this happened amongst three thousand plus individuals in
my community, and the travesty not only for Utah, but
also the United States of America that a noble warrior
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for freedom of speech, somebody who always engaged in a
non violent fashion, but in a vigorous fashion and debate
on civic discourse and civic lessons of life, is now
taken from us. Is a travesty and a stain on
American people. And it's the sort of thing that I
think your monologue at the beginning sets up well, is
there are evil minded individuals that apparently have no regard
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for life, and President Trump's on the hunt for those
kind of individuals. If you're going to make threats, viable
threats that is not protected by our constitutional privilege of
free speech, and when it comes to antifa, who and
organizations that are domestic terrorist organizations who are not only
going to help organize but also fund these efforts, or
if there's any commercial interests like violent video games, that
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those entities should be held to task and you can
bet the full weighted justice of the United States American
legal system. But also Congress are going to be looking
at those vigorously to make sure we're reigning those evil
forces in.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I have so many questions then to follow up on
that point, Congressman, let's start here clearly this we're seeing
a lot of hatred, vitriol, evil in this country, not
just from these radical actors, but for the people around
them who celebrate what's going on with glee. I want
to ask you, because I just can't figure it out,
exactly where do you think this kind of hatred is
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coming from.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Dehumanizing the other side seems to be modus operandi for
a lot of these people. The sad reality since when
you come to Columbine and the nine to eleven, there's
a culture of death all over the world, and we
can see that with terrorists all over the world, and
sadly it's in the middle of the United States of America,
and even in my district, we know that that's true.
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And this sort of thing needs to be fought against vigorously,
because when it comes to evil versus good, since the
beginning of mankind, we've been fighting these fights. But I
and my constituents, and I'll say the vast majority of
not only my constituents, but the American citizens, we utterly
reject these kind of efforts. But we've seen some pretty
repulsive since eight days ago the assassination of Charlie Kirk,
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we've seen some repulsive behaviors speech as well as behaviors
associated with this, and there's no regard for human life
and some of the hearts and minds of our people.
And that is repugnant to me and the vast majority
of people, and we should fight that every step of
the way, because otherwise the next trigger happy, deranged coward,
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instead of taking on a debate, is with violence, going
to try to suppress the views that they don't agree with.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I completely agree with that, sir. So what does that
fight against it really look like?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Well, it looks like first identifying the evil, and Senator
Mike Lee has already passed out of the scent of Flora,
condemning this filthy violence and mourning with Erica and those
children the loss of a man like Charlie Kirk, and
also promising and we're doing this on the House side
in the next twenty four to forty eight hours, passing
a resolution that commits that we as an American people,
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and I believe we can get Democrats and Republicans on
these resolutions, that we as an American people will stand
for freedom of speech, and that we will, with Charlie Kirk,
boldly move forward, debate vigorously and love completely to make
sure that we are not allowing violent, the rare violent
entities that are out there to win this public debate
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that is so vital for us to win in favor
of free speech and our God given protected rights.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I just I really appreciate that effort so much, so
thank you for that. And I really do hope and
pray that this is a bipartisan push, because it doesn't
matter who you are, what you think, or who you
voted for. Frankly, this kind of violence is just unacceptable
and it's evil, period.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Governor Cox is entirely right.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Attack on one as an attack on all, and we
all should fight vigorously against this. But when it comes
to people using their free speech to threaten more violence
and label people's Nazis and fascists, tipping over these psychotic
individuals from reality to unreality where they actually believe it's
appropriate to take another person's life, then that speech is irresponsible.
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And in fact, ilhan Omar was held out in a
censure movement yesterday. The emotion was tabled, and people can
look to their congressman and see how they voted on that.
But it is inappropriate for us to speak in such
violent terms about each other because I know my congressional
colleagues are not interested in violence specifically against each other,
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but their words may be reflective of an intent to
induce other people to take acts of violence. And this
idea that everybody's a fascist that disagrees with this idea
that everybody's a Nazi when they disagree with you, is
a very irresponsible position to take.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Completely agreed, and as we've seen with this attack and
some others, there's a real power to those words. I mean,
calling someone a Nazi, that's not a light thing. Calling
someone a fascist and autocratic dictator, these words have real
power to them, and they can set the stage for
the kind of violence we've just seen in the past
couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
So thank you for that as well.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Moving on then to the latest updates on the case
for the suspect in this assassination. I'm not going to
name him. I don't want to give him any credit
or glory at all because what he did is just
disgusting and evil. But I do wonder what's going to
happen here. We have some charges that he's facing. Do
you think the death penalty is the right way to
go ultimately here or do you see a different path
forward for holding him to justice.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
The County Attorney Jeff Gray has done a great job.
In fact, one of my congressional colleagues, who happens to
be an attorney, said he was appropriately boring in the
way that he approaches because we both know that as
a county attorney takes too much of an invested set
of statements, so they could potentially give the defense of
this individual an opportunity to use that in the case
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to the detriment of the case. Ultimately, So, County Attorney
Jeff Gray has done a good job, and when it
comes to the death penalty. I don't see with this
kind of assassination effort, I don't see why that would
not only be promulgated, but why it's highly likely that
this suspect will be held to account for that. And
in our state, we have not only execution by lethal injection,
but we have execution by the firing squad, and from
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what I understand, in the state law, and I'd have
to check this to make sure that the individual that's
prosecuted and found guilty that chooses the way that they
want to go. But this sort of poetic justice that
may come along with somebody who's going to fire a
bullet could potentially have a bullet fired at them, is
the sort of thing that when people take these sort
of behaviors, there's consequences, and you can't draw back when
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those actions are taken from the consequences that are currently
this individual face understood.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I'll be following the story very closely to see what
happens next. But I just want to say again I'm
praying here for his Fanaily and for Erica and his
beautiful children, for your community, Congressman, and really for this
whole country.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
So thank you for being here today.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Thank you. We can tell that you're praying and I
am as well. And I'll just say that these people
are not only Eric and those children, but the people
that witness this horrific event all over the country, but
those that were there present, they're suffering terribly associated with this,
and it's actually on the other side, an opportunity for
people to respond, as you have, through prayer, but also
through action to help each other. And I've seen a
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lot of community effort to heal after this tragic event.
And God bless the good people in my district in
the United States of America as we try to move
forward from these horrific events that happen.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Very well said, and thank you for that, sir. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Coming up next, moving from one horrific tragedy right to another,
one of our resident legal experts will join us to
discuss the latest updates about the disturbing case of Luigi Mangioni,
the man who allegedly gunned down United Healthcare CEO Brian
Thompson and cold blood.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
More details about it after the.
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Speaker 1 (15:27):
Welcome back to the Real Story, Continuing our coverage of
the erosion of courage and the rise of unfettered hatred
in modern America. We look two thousand miles east of
the tragedy in Utah and the rot festers deeper still.
So Luigi Mangioni, the twenty six year old self anointed judge,
jury and executioner who allegedly stalked and murdered United Healthcare
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CEO Brian Thompson outside of a Manhattan hotel on December
fourth last year. His bulletshell casings etched with words like deny, deposed,
delay Walston to court.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
This week like he owned the.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Place as a matter of fact, and what happened. His
terrorism charge dropped, his first degree murder charge dulled down
to second degree. He still faces weapons and forgery charges. Sure,
but Judge Gregory Carrow tossed the top counts in a
twelve page punt, writing, there's no evidence of a desire
to terrorize the public. Strongly disagreed, by the way, but
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he called it a heinous but targeted hit. But what
about Maggioni's manifesto, A blistering screed against corporate creed, fake
bullets in his backpack, screaming revolution. See, this was no
random act. It was a calculated message. Second degree murder
sticks plus federal heat in Pennsylvania where he was ultimately nabbed.
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But the next hearing won't even happen until December. First
prosecutors raged that this was a social and political message
to the public, yet the judge just shrugged it off.
Now the judges or Judge Carrow's a hero to the
green clad pitchfork crowd and a monster to the rest
of us who see a dad of two gunned down
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in cold blood just for doing his job. So let's
face it. One radical snuff's of voice for freedom on
a college stage. Connect the dots on this national nightmare.
A basement bred fanatic levels a scope at a champion
of liberty, and a very loud, very dark portion of
the internet celebrates it with joyful glee. Here we have
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a self styled vigilante who blasts away at a hard
working father in broad daylight for some warped notion of justice,
and the bench handsome a velvet glove instead of an
iron fist. Whether it's calculated campus crosshairs or urban alley executions,
our legal hall sway like willows in a storm of
selective outrage, coddling crusaders with kid gloves as victim's blood
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stains the pavement. We're not merely adrift into anarchy. We
forfeited our backbone, toasting Triggerman as folk heroes, all while
denigrating the life and legacy of one of the most
courageous and brightest young mans our country has ever seen.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Now here with reaction.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
As attorney, legal analyst and host of the What's Right Show,
Sam Mirojowski, Sam, thank you for joining me.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Riley, thank you for having me. Good to be here
with you.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
It's good to have you despite these circumstances. Now, I
have some legal questions for you, but I want to
start with a political one first. You look at someone
like Luigi Mangioni and what he allegedly did to Brian Thompson.
How did we get to a place in America where
people like that, the bad guys, are celebrated like folk heroes.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
It's easy. You have thirty forty years of political indoctrination,
starting in elementary school, high school, and through college. You know,
I thought the worst part of this entire ruling was
that outside the courthouse people were cheering it. There were
the crowd, there was a literally a fan club for
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Luigimi and Gioni, and they were out there in full
celebration mode. Uh. So I think that's you know, that
is something we are We need to clean up the
culture of our country. Yes, uh, and it's going to
take some time. It's not going to happen overnight.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well, so I want to follow up on that point
because there's the law, there's holding these these clowns to
account for what they've done allegedly done. But really this
is a deeper cultural issue and I don't know how
you go about bringing that change.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
So what are your thoughts about that, Sam Well? I,
you know, I'm a huge fan of Christopher Rufo and
one of the things I like that he has he
has brought about is is getting conservatives to begin thinking
about reclaiming public institutions. Know, we ceded a territory and
ground to the left, and and and kind of just
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you know, hands off laisse fair. We're gonna, we're gonna
we're conservatives. So we're not you know, we're not going
to take a heavy hand and and try to push
our ideology. Now, we have to begin teaching people to
love the country. We have to begin teaching in schools
that capitalism, the fact is simple fact that that it's
lifted more people out of poverty than any other system,
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economic system, or political system in the history of the world.
We have to begin I hate to say it, but
re educating young people, and and and and it will.
It has to start now. And and so I you know,
I love what the Trump administration is doing, going after
funding for universities to teach hate, going after going after
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school systems. You know, we we have a lot of power.
When we are in power. We can withhold federal funding.
We can we can get them to bend to our will.
It's so we finally have a Republican president who gets
it and who has the stomach for the battle. They're
not going to go easy into the night. Look at
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Randy Weingarten and the horrible essaysue just penned. They know
what's coming. They're fearful of us. And it's good, No,
I hear you.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
And you know, just before we pivot as well.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I will say I think President Trump's actually set a
remarkable example. He lived through two assassination attempts in less
than two months. He was shot in the face in Butler, Pennsylvania,
in front of the entire world, and he never called
for violence or retribution. He called for patriotism and unity
in this country. So I'm glad that you brought him
up because I think he set the example best. These
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are the most important times we have to model peace.
We have to make it very clear, whatever your thoughts
are about big Pharma, about the healthcare industry, this kind
of violence is unacceptable, and two wrongs don't make it right,
by the way, So I think it's really important that
we looked at that example from President Trump on this
because he set a very good one for the country.
But now moving to the case with MANGIONI, it seems
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like they're just treating him with kid gloves. I don't
understand why. Maybe they don't have a strong enough case
against him, but give us your legal analysis of the case.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
So far.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Well, I can't believe I'm on the side of Alvin Bragg.
I think that's I think that's where I'm where. I
kind of had to do a gut check because brag
to his credit, was fighting tooth and nail for the
murder one here, wow, the yeah, if you can believe.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
I can't believe that, but please go ahead.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Now, maybe if cynics out there will say he maybe
wasn't as as persuasive as you should have been, but no,
he was fighting for it if you look through the records. Okay,
So here's the problem. Fundamentally is New York law allows
for murder in the first degree in cases where the
murder was premeditated, and then there is a set there's
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a list of maybe eight or nine special sircumstances. The
only circumstance, the special circumstance that fits this really is
the terrorism uh, the terrorism charge, right, And you know,
certainly I think I'm just speaking now as a lawyer
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putting that hat on. I think, you know, the definition
is to intimidate or coerce a civilian population through it
through you know, violence, into a you know, influenced governmental policy.
I don't I don't know what evidence they have of that,
of that, and that might be so to me. I
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believe that it was a wobbler legally speaking. Now I
want to be very clear, the second degree murder charge
is still there. He could still get twenty five to life. Functionally,
he could be punished in New York the exact same
way for murder two as he would be for murder one.
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It just doesn't carry an automatic life sentence, got it.
And that is that. And now that matters to me
because I think this guy, you know, ought to burn,
burn in hell and stay in prison for the rest
of his life.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
But but app absent that very specific condition in the
way the statute has written. I think it's a it's
a tough road understood.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
We'll have to see what happens moving forward, and we'll
be sure to bring you back on when we have
more information, Sam. But thank you for the analysis and
that insight today.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
You're welcome, Briley, great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Coming up next, Continuing with the theme of bringing peace
to the streets of America and stopping the scourge of violence,
today's next segment goes out to a young girl was
recently slain by an illegal immigrant who had previously been deported.
More details after the break.
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Speaker 1 (25:12):
Welcome back to the real story. Let's continue with this
theme of violence on the streets of America. So it
was in Elmhurst, New York, this past Saturday when deported
Honduran illegal immigrant Edwin Cruz Gomez slapped with d uys
both in twenty thirteen and also January of this year,
drunkenly plowed his Chevy suburban into sixteen year old Johanni
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Gomez Alvarez, crushing her against a bar pillar to death
after she rejected his sleazy sexual advances. A girl with
her entire life ahead of her stuffed out, largely because
Joe Biden's Catch and Release circus ignored ice detainers.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Again, this has.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Happened over and over and over again, like some sort
of blood soaked rerun. Earlier this week, even we reported
on Cuban illegal immigrant Grdonus Cobos Martinez, who hacked off
the head of a fifty year old or motel manager
with a machete in front of his own wife and children.
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And this story echoes the February twenty twenty four bludgeoning
of Georgia nursing student Lake and Riley, tragically beaten with
a rock on her jog by Venezuelan illegal immigrant Jose Ibarra,
who waltzed across our poor southern border despite red flags.
The last five years have taken a grim toll on
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our nation, with Rachel morn, a mother of five, raped
and murdered on a trail in Maryland in twenty twenty
three by salvador and fugitive Victor Martinez Hernandez. Or how
about the case of twelve year old Joscelyn Nungerai, who
was strangled and dumped into a Houston creek last June
by two Venezuelan cartel wannabes. Or what about Kayla Hamilton,
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just twenty years old, raped and decapitated in twenty twenty
two in Maryland by an MS thirteen Salvadoran thug. Now
Ice admits that over thirteen thousand known immigrant murderers still
roam free here in America. And what exactly do our
liberal and progressive overlords have to say about it? Frankly,
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they're all in pushing amnesty and open gates to remake
America's map, stacking the deck with imported voters wh will
keep their grip on power tight, because why protect American
citizens and the innocent when you can play demographics for
keeps And for those of you who are keeping score,
this is yet another devastating murder of a young, innocent
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American who was full of life and which could have
been prevented had the previous administration actually deported the dangerous,
murderous criminal lunatics that ICE.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Had previously detained.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Here with his thoughts, analysis, and reaction is North Carolina
GOP Representative Addison McDowell representative.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Thank you for being here today. You got it, Riley.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I want to get your initial thoughts of the story.
It's heartbreaking, it's obviously not fair, and I just don't
know where we go from here as a nation.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
So what are your initial thoughts about it?
Speaker 7 (28:22):
Well, I think that it's important to remember, Riley, that
you know Joe Biden and his administration, they led in
or they had eleven million encounters at the border for
President Trump in his first nine months. That has been
one percent of what has happened in his presidency. This
didn't take new laws. It took new leadership, and that's
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thank god, that's what we have back in the White House.
One of the things that you said, you called the
Biden administration what they did a catch and release circus,
and I believe that that is actually an insult to
a circus because that gives credibility that they knew what
they were doing, and they didn't. It was incompetence, and
what it's doing is getting people killed. And so, you know,
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thank the Lord that Republicans got back in the White
House and the President Donald Trump and his team are
in the White House and they are not sleeping until
we get this all taken care of. Because as American citizens,
you have to be safe and you have to believe
that you are safe, and you can't have a government
that is just letting these people into our country.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Completely, And to follow up with you, there one point
that just really it really disturbs me, Congressman. So I
want to get your thoughts about it, Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Kamala Harris all a Hundre.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
My orcis they open the floodgates to we'll say ten
to eleven million people, maybe the number is even bigger
than that. We have people with convicted records, right people,
you know, people convicted of homicide, kidnapping. We have drug traffickers,
human traffickers, suspected terrorists on the FBI watch list. They
flood into the country for the sole purpose of harming
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our fellow Americans, and then after it's all said and done,
Joe Biden just gets away with it. He walks away
from the White House. We have President Trump reclaim office
or retake office after a landslide victory. But the people
who created this mess have seen zero accountability. They're not
held responsible for it, and that just doesn't sit right
with me. I don't know what we could possibly do
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about it, but I want to ask you if that's
also bothersome to you, because the people who are really
responsible for this kind of a crisis have paid no
price for it themselves.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Yeah, you're exactly right. It is a shame that Vice
President Harris and President Biden could do what they did
to our country and just get away. And you know
now they're writing books and doing what they'll do while
precious innocent young lives in New York City are taken
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by these evil illegal aliens that Joe Biden and Kamala
Harris just let into our country, and it's you know,
there needs to be accountability. And I think that folks
in the else, like Chairman Jim Jordan and Chairman Comer
on Oversight, we're dragging these people back to the Capitol
Hill to answer for what they've done, because these families
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that have been destroyed forever by these illegals deserve answers
and we have to give it to them.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
You know, these situations, these tragedies are cropping up all
over the country. It goes to show that things to
Joe Biden and his actions, every state is basically becoming
a border state. So I want to ask you, then,
what are you hearing from your constituents, if anything, about
border security, the lasting impacts of that crisis that was
created by the previous administration, because from what I can tell,
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everybody around the country right now is on edge about it,
and rightfully so, sir.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
Sure, well, I think you know, the problem is fifty
percent solved. The border is secure thanks to the leadership
of President Trump and his team. The border secure. You know,
we don't have encounters like we did. We're not letting
these these terrorists, these rapists, these killers into our country anymore.
But the problem is there were eleven million encounters under
Joe Biden. We don't know how many people got away,
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so it was probably upwards of that. And so we
now have those people in our countries. And so that's
what we have to do. And you know, the President's
team has been very focused on identifying who these people
are and getting them out. But the sheer volume of
people that the Biden presidency allowed to come into our country,
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it's going to take time to get them all out
of our country. And so we've got to be vigilant,
and we have to be fast now as fast as
we can. But you know, this poor, you know, young
woman in New York, This was a tragedy that didn't
need to happen. And I think that President Trump has
proven that because all it took was a new executive,
a new commander in chief that just said, hey, if
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you come to America now, you're not getting a free
cell phone, a free hotel room, and a thousand dollars
visa prepaid gift card. You're getting the first class ticket
back out of our country. And that's that's all it took.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
To your point, Congressman I'm about to get your thought
or your assessment about the current performance we're seeing from
people like borders are Tom Homan, d h S, Secretary
Christy Nome, and everybody in this current administration who seems
to be working extremely hard and tirelessly to right the
wrongs of the past. What is your assessment of their
job performance to date.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
I think that they are doing an absolutely phenomenal job.
They work very well together, and that you know, Tom
Homan is he is the man. I mean, you know,
we've got a guy that I if, you know, if
I'm an illegal and I'm sleeping in the United States,
the last thing I think about before I go to
bed is God, I hope that guy doesn't show up.
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And and you know, I think him and Secretary Nome
and all of the cabinet and you know, and the
President and the Vice President are doing a fantastic job.
They've focused on this because the most urgent need that
we had as a country is we have to be safe.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yes, and so.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
I'm grateful for the work that they're doing. They're doing
a fantastic job, and any support that they need out
of the Legend branch, I'll do what we can to
make sure they get it.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
So, speaking of them, let's come back to New York City,
or to New York where this horrific tragedy unfolded on Saturday.
I don't know what the next steps are, but it's
very frustrating. You have someone with a criminal record, who
was previously deported, who came back into the country illegally
again stole an American life, just like that in cold blood.
What is the next step in the process for detaining
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this individual, apprehending them, and delivering justice to them.
Speaker 7 (34:29):
Well, I think, you know, the thing that gives me
pause is just knowing what her family's going through. I
lost my little brother to a fentanyl poisoning, and so
I know what it's like to lose somebody to open
border policies that the Democrats have pushed. And so i'm
you know, I feel very very sorry for their families
that leadership or a lack of leadership in Washington resulted
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in death. It resulted in their family being forever broken,
and now they have to move forward. And I can
imagine because it's what I wanted. It's why I ran
for Congress. I wanted leadership in Congress and Washington DC
that actually did something about it, not just said, you
know what, there's fentanel flowing across our southern border. We're
gonna just let it keep coming. I wanted somebody that
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would say it's gonna stop. It's gonna stop right now,
and that's what I've tried to be. But I just
feel so sad for their families because that's not what
they deserved. They didn't deserve that. They deserve leadership that
didn't allow this to happen in the first place. And
so I'm just so sorry to them.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I am praying for them.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
We need patriots now more than ever, to stand by
what is right and to fight for the American people.
So I know you're a busy person, but I want
to thank you for your time today and thank you
for your insight as well.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
You got it. Thanks so much, Riley.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Coming up next, President Trump, in quite the display of
a regal splendor, makes a historic visit to the United Kingdom,
and an expert on UK politics joins us to discuss
how it went and all the key takeaways from that visit.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
More details after the break.
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Speaker 1 (36:25):
Welcome back to the Real Story. Today's next segment takes
us in a much different direction than we've been to date.
So the next topic, one that's a little more heartwarming,
revolves around President Trump's recent trip to the United Kingdom. So,
President Trump, in what seems to be a display of
regal splendor that would make even the Founding Fathers tip
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their tricorn hats, reveled in the pomp of his historic
second state visit to the United Kingdom on Wednesday at
the majestic Windsor Castle. So picture this a glittering carriage
procession rolling through the cheering crowds linked by about thirteen
hundred crisp uniformed British troops, with President Trump and the
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First Lady at the side of His Majesty, King Charles
and Queen Camilla. From the thunderous flypass of the red
arrows slicing to the sguise to a wreath laying at
Saint George's Chapel in honor of the late Queen Elizabeth,
who graciously hosted President Trump back in twenty nineteen. The
day unfolded like a living tapestry of Anglo American kinship,
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and his banquet speech, President Trump said, the bond of
kinship and identity between America and the United Kingdom. Is
priceless and eternal. It's irreplaceable and unbreakable. That brings us,
then to the meat and potatoes of this visit. British
Prime Minister Cure Starmer rolled out the red carpet not
just for show, but to lock in billions and deals
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that put American jobs first. Think some forty two billion
pouring in from tech giants like Microsoft in Nvidia, Google
and even open Ai into artificial intelligence, quantum computing, and
clean nuclear energy right here on American soil. Trump even
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hailed the UK's role in his administration's very first trade pact.
And now they're talking tariff slashed on things like steel, Scotch, whiskey,
and wild salmon to supercharge exports from our heartland farms
and factories. So what exactly does this mean for the
American people other than maybe some cheaper bottles of Johnny Walker?
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And what does it mean for the people of the
UK and most importantly, what does it mean for the
future of the relationship between the US and the UK.
Here with his expert analysis is lawyer and former speechwriter
for UK Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher Jeff Gilson. Jeff, thank
you for being here today, sir.
Speaker 8 (38:49):
Well, thank you Ronie for having me.
Speaker 9 (38:51):
And I will say, without minimizing the events of the
last few weeks, it is nice to take a bit
of a break things happening in the world. And as
you said, this is a very heartwarming moment. And some
of young viewers may say, well, so what it's it's
Great Britain and the United States. Does Great Britain matter anymore?
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And the answer is yes, it does. In its own regard.
Speaker 8 (39:16):
Great Britain still has one of the largest economies in the.
Speaker 9 (39:19):
World, and more than that, it is still a gateway
to Europe. In fact, even though it is no longer
part of the European Union, it can be seen as
as an offshore island that has close links to the
European Union. Starmer is much more pro European Union than
his predecessor of conservative colleagues, and so it is something
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of a launch pad. So even though it may just
have been seen to be all about gilded carriacters, and
that's very important. It's very important as a stepping stone
into Europe. And it's not so much that there were
many things to announced, like a deal on Ukraine or Gaza.
Speaker 8 (40:00):
In fact, they disagreed on Gaza.
Speaker 9 (40:02):
Great Britain is involved in many of the things where
it's useful for the Europe for the United States to
have a partner who is one step removed.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
You know, just following up.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Then, on that note, Jeff, there's a lot of talk
about Prime Minister Starmer here in America. Some people are
a little skeptical of him. Other people seem to really
like him and be fond of what he's done. But
we're just outsiders here in the US in that regard.
So I want to get your perspective on who he
is and his job performance in the role to date.
Speaker 9 (40:33):
It's very interesting, actually, because he is in deep trouble
in Great Britain, and both President Trump and Starmer wanted
something more than concrete announcements from this visit. They wanted
a break. Stalman needed a break from political trumpsies having
at home. Trump wanted to get away from Washington for
a while. Trump loves regal regalia and Starmer likes to
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show off the world stage. But the funny thing is
that Starmer is actually failing in Great.
Speaker 8 (41:05):
Britain for the very reason that he's useful to Trump.
Speaker 9 (41:08):
Starmer is basically a backroom person, a very senior backroom person.
He's a very good operator. He's a very good bureaucrat.
He has strong links to Europe and can provide a
bridge between Trump and Europe. And this is why I
think Trump gets on with him because Trump Starma doesn't
pretend he is anything more than he is. He is
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a significant prime minister. But he provides Trump with that
with that bridge. But it is precisely because he's a
bureaucrat and not a band with native political instincts that
he is not performing well for the British people.
Speaker 8 (41:43):
Does that all make sense?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
It does, and it leads me to a question of
sort of break it down, simplify a little bit. I'm wondering,
just day to day talking to Britons, is Starma a
popular individual.
Speaker 9 (41:56):
No, he's very very unpopular. I'm a weird person. I'm
a weird person, but I'm both British and American, and
in America I have been a Democrat, although I'm not
one now because more of an independent, because I'm just
so disappointed with what Democrats are doing. And in Great Britain,
I've always been a member of the British Conservative Party,
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and Conservative in Great Britain that doesn't have quite the
same connotation. Think more Nicky Haley than Donald Trump. If
it was America. The Conservative Party for the last fourteen
years when they were in government failed miserably. I say
that as a British Conservative we focused on all the
wrong things and we didn't have much direction. And Starmer
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promised direction and all the Britain Britons have seen for
the past fifteen months is the same lack of direction,
and they are very unhappy with them. And if you
think politics in the United States is volatile, it's way
more volatile in Great Britain. At the moment, it is
projected that Starmer will lose the election in the next
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couple of years and will lose a Parliamental majority of
one hundred mating members, which is huge to Nigel Farage,
leader of a party that has only fought one general
election and final Farrage is projected to come out of
the winner with an equally large majority. That's how much
it is viewed is going to swing. But Starmer is
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viewed as an enormous failure as a prime minister. But
he is for the same reason. So I said, a
very good partner for Trump. And it's remarkable. And I
can say this and some of my British friends and
some of my American friends will blanch when I say it.
They have a surprisingly good relationship because they understand what
each of them brings to the relationship. Starmer brings cool headed,
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a sort of bureaucratic poise, and Trump brings fire and
they know that and it works well.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Since you also brought this individual up, I really want
to get your thoughts about Nigel Farage. I remember when
he first broke out of the scene with the Brexit movement.
I guess that was about twenty fifteen. That was a
fascinating thing to see. It was a clear rebuke of
the status quo in the UK, and I, as an American,
had a lot.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Of questions and I still do.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
So just walk us through your thought process about Nigel,
what he's done in Nigia politics and people's opinion of him.
Speaker 9 (44:20):
Now, yeah, Nigel Farrage actually came on the scene much
earlier than that. I go all the way back to
Margaret Thatcher. Margaret Thatcher was forced from power in nineteen
nineteen very unhappily, and the right wing of the Conservative
Party was never happy after that. And shortly after she
was forced out, something called the Referendum Movement start, which
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became the Referendum Party, and that then morphed into something
called the United Kingdom Independence Party, which then morphed into
the Brexit Party, which became Reform, which is what it
is now. And every step along the way, Nigel Farage
was there, and he grew, and his political exports exploits grew,
and he was very successful in Europe and was very
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successful in getting Great Britain out of the European Union.
But even after the last election he managed to get
only eleven percent in the polls and four members of
four members of Parliament in the House of Commons. Nobody
foresaw what was going to happen, because in this past year,
just as Starmer has become unpopular, and Starmer's Labor Party
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had forty eight percent at the last election fifteen months ago,
they now run at eighteen. They've lost thirty points in
the polls. When Trump's having a bad day, he goes
from forty five to thirty eight. Starmer went from forty
eight to eighteen. Wow. At the same time, Farage has
gone from eleven percent to thirty four percent, leading by
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a good fifteen points in the polls and the people
who see but this is transitory. I've been engaged in
British politics for while, since i was sixteen. I'm a
little older than sixteen, now forty to fifty years. No
Nigel Farage, in my view, is going to win the
next election. Personally, I don't much care for him, don't
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really care for some of his politics. But there is
undoubted It is undoubtedly the case that just as Donald
Trumps is the colossus in Washington politics, Farage has become
the colossus in Westminster politics. And no one really saw
it happening. And even though this may seem anachronistic, it's
not particularly under Starmer, and with his close relations with
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European Union, he offers a doorstep, a bridge to Europe.
He also offers a bridge to something called the Commonwealth.
There is about one hundred nations in the world that
used to be part of the British Empire, and under
Elizabeth and now Charles, they have maintained very strong economic
links to Great Britain. So Great Britain is a bridge
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to two huge sources of economic and business.
Speaker 8 (46:57):
Influence in the United States. So very helpful with negotiating.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Terms understood, And you know, Jeff, I appreciate your time
and your insight. You know, for US Americans it can
be a little difficult sometimes to really understand the intermachinations
of UK politics. So I just appreciate your time today
and your analysis.
Speaker 8 (47:16):
Ronnie, thank you very much. Thank you for having me
on the show.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Coming up next, on today's edition of Real Good News,
we pay our tribute to one of the most beloved actors, directors,
and producers in all of American history, who tragically passed
away earlier this week.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
More details after the break.
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Speaker 1 (48:02):
Welcome back to the Real Story. On today's edition of
Real Good News, we'd like to pay special homage to
film mogul, actor, producer, and director Robert Redford, who tragically
passed away on Tuesday at the age of eighty nine
years old. His publicist said that when he died, he
was at his home at Sundance and the Mountains of Utah,
the place he loved, surrounded by those he loved. Now,
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no cause of death was provided in this statement, However,
I think everybody knows mister Redford was truly a titan
and a visionary in his industry, becoming one of the
biggest stars of his time and eventually starting the sun
Dance Institute, named after his character from the iconic film
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid in nineteen eighty one
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to promote independent film. Now you may not have known it,
but the Sundance Film Festival itself can really be credited
to mister Redford, which led to him being known as
the godfather of independent film.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
In fact, some.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Very notable movies, maybe even some of your favorites, came
out of this film festival. Think The Blair Witch Project,
Garden State, and even Napoleon Dynamite, a personal favorite of mine. Now,
some of mister Redford's own most famous roles were things
like Barefoot in the Park, Jeremiah Johnson, The Sting, The
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Great Gatsby, and The Candidate. And after his accomplished acting career,
he shifted his focus to producing and directing film, leading
him to earn an Oscar for Best Director in nineteen
eighty for Ordinary People. He also directed A River Runs
Through It, starring Brad Pitt and Craig Sheffer, and in
twenty sixteen he was presented the Presidential Medal of Freedom
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by former President Barack Obama for his influential work as
an actor, a director, and a producer. And in twenty eighteen,
just two years later, he started what he dubbed his
farewell movie, The Old Man and the Gun, where he
played a man who escaped from San Quentin prison. He
left a lasting influence on all of Hollywood and the
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film industry as a whole, becoming a household name among
movie lovers, and to that point, we truly cannot underestimate
or understate our respect for him. Now, our thoughts and
prayers go out to his loved ones and to his
fans all over the world. And that concludes today's broadcast.
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