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September 26, 2025 • 50 mins
The Trump Administration Unveils a Brand New Plan to Bring Peace to Gaza Amidst the War between Israel and Hamas - but will it take?


Guests:


Bryan Stern | Founder, Grey Bull Rescue Foundation
Mary Holland | President, Children's Health Defense
Rep. Pat Harrigan (R) | UI.S. Representative, North Carolina's 10th Congressional District
Mark Lynch | Businessman, Candidate, U.S. Senate South Carolina
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Welcome to the Real Story. I'm your host, Riley Lewis,
and thank you for joining us. Today's top story brings
us to the Middle East, and specifically to Gaza. As
it currently stands, Gaza remains at the center of a
long standing war between Israel and Hamas, a war which
the Trump administration is trying to end, and the latest

(00:35):
example of his efforts to do so can be seen
in this twenty one point piece plan for the region
that the Trump administration is currently pushing. The plane itself
was unveiled this week, being presented to some Arab leaders
at some very high stakes meetings, and it appears to be.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Picking up steam quickly.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Now, before we dive deeper into the details about it,
let's review the current conditions on the ground in Gaza.
Regarding the situation, things seem to be very dire. Hundreds
of thousands of people are reportedly at risk, and issues
like malnutrition are driving people to the brink, with some

(01:14):
reports claiming that malnutrition has killed hundreds of people in
recent months, including children. Local hospitals are overflowing with patients,
with some even shutting down to to lack of access
to critical supplies. In the region's infrastructure seems to be
collapsing beneath the weight of war, with reports from the

(01:35):
ground saying that Gaza is facing complete blackouts, a lack
of internet and phone signals, and shortages of food, medicine,
and security. People have also been displaced from their homes
and a delivery seems to be obstructed, fueling the chaos
and tension on the ground, and while the food aid
situation is more dire in some areas than others, the

(01:58):
overall picture appears to be pretty bleak on the surface.
Then there's the continued military operations and evacuation orders in
the northern Gaza strip, which are also adding to the
stress and amidst the chaos and confusion comes the UN
General Assembly hearing this week, this eightieth session, during which
the President of Palestine, Mahmoud Abbas spoke via video declaring

(02:23):
his official readiness to work with France, Saudi Arabia and
even the US on developing and implementing a peace plan.
And those remarks have come after the international body has
repeatedly backed calls for an unconditional cease fire in Gaza.
It's unclear if that option's really on the table. However,

(02:43):
as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin at Yahoo vow to finish
the job of defeating Hamas during his address to the
UN General Assembly today and shortly before his comments, scores
of people reportedly walked out of the room in protest.
But despite it all, Prime Minister Netanyahu is slated to

(03:04):
meet with President Trump on Monday, although it's still unclear
of President Trump will present this peace plan to him.
In either case, that brings us back to the proposal itself.
As Israeli military operations continue, especially in and around Gaza City,
the Trump White House is trying to end the war

(03:24):
once and for all. Now presented on Wednesday by US
Special Envoy Steve Witcoff at the Concordia Annual Summit in
New York City, this whole plan centers around some crucial
ideas such as the immediate release of all hostages in captivity,
a permanent ceasefire on the ground, and a real framework
for governing Gaza that excludes Hamas from holding any power,

(03:49):
but also coupled with Israel's gradual drawl from the area.
No Arab leaders then suggested some other additions, like preventing
any annexation of the West Bank, preserving Jerusalem's status quo,
ramping up the delivery of humanitarian aid, and addressing Israeli
settlements in the area. But really, the key to this

(04:10):
whole plan then hinges on addressing concerns from both Israel,
America's ally and also its neighbors in the area. And
whether or not this plan will be accepted by all
the relevant parties, and whether or not it's going to
be implemented at all is still an open question. But
as we all ponder the implications of it, one can't

(04:31):
help but have a sense of serious optimism mixed with caution.
Not only could this plan halt the war itself, but
also it could pave the way for expanding the Abraham Accords,
strengthening alliances in the Middle East without the pitfalls of
past administration's approaches. But it leaves us wondering still what
happens next. Only time will tell, But the Trump administration's

(04:55):
efforts speak to a stark reality which can be summed
up by these words from Eleanor Roosevelt. It isn't enough
to talk about peace. One must believe in it. And
it isn't enough to believe in it, one must work
at it oh. Here with his analysis, reaction and thoughts
is Brian Stern, a veteran of the US Army and

(05:16):
the US Navy and the founder of the Gray Bowl
Rescue Foundation. Brian, thank you for being here, sir.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Hey Riley, how are you doing very well?

Speaker 1 (05:26):
And really really intrigued by this twenty one point peace
plan for Gaza. I want to get your initial thoughts
about it, and then we'll go from there.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
I think any plan, any opportunity to any opportunity to
sue for peace, is a good one. You know, the
challenge with the situation this war, this war is very
frustrating for everyone, the Israeli side, the Palestinian side, even
for Hamas, even for allies, for the United States, that

(05:59):
this thing needs to end somehow, because you know, the
the the status quo is definitely not sustainable for anyone.
That's not good for anyone. Uh, don't forget there are
still many, many, many hostages, over two dozen hostages still
in captivity. Uh. They're they're suffering every single day and
their families are suffering every single day.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
So there's a lot of a lot of.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Things that are are you know, are are indicative of
war that are all terrible. So any opportunity to to UH,
to pursue peace is good. The catches is that like
any other negotiation, just just even even here in America,
when there's a conflict between two people, even if it's
in court, both sides need to be emotionally ready ready.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
To settle UH. Both sides need to.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Their heart truly needs to want to settle a disagreement.
And that's true in civil litigation. That's also true in
these kinds of massive peace deals.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
It is.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
And so I want to focus on some of these
specific terms, such as a full withdrawal of the IDF
in the region, but also making sure that whoever governs
Gaza next isn't Hamas. What do you think of some
of those ideas specifically, I think for.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
The Israelis, I think for the Israelis, having Hamas have
any role whatsoever is a deal breaker. I don't think
that Israel would tolerate Hamas being in charge of the
Girl Scouts, you know, you know, of selling Girl Scout cookies.
So you know, we need to remember this discussion that
we're having is as a result of Hamas and its

(07:36):
allies attacking on October seventh and unleashing the Israeli war machine.
The idea of Hamas having any demonstrable role is rightfully
so unacceptable to the Israelis, and that's okay.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
The Palestinians need to understand that.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Is a condition, and if they're prepared to accept that condition,
then then then there's potential. If not, then the the
Israeli's got plenty of bombs and plenty of AMMO and
plenty of soldiers and this thing you'll just keep on going.
So it becomes cost benefit analysis on the Palestinian side
of what they what they are emostly ready to accept.

(08:18):
As far as who's going to control what, I think
that could all be worked out. But but Hamas Hamas
in Gaza, their days, their days are are that ship
is sailed.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
That's not that's not possible.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Understood, and that's I don't think anyone wants to see
Hamas running in Gaza. But there is an open question
there logistically in terms of how does that work. Do
they have some sort of election, do you try to
you know, what the people decide, What does that look like?
Do you have external actors like the United States and
Israel sort of impose somebody it's it's a really murky.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Situation, as you're alluding to, so I want to pivot, though.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Not so murky, we throughout time.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
We've had this situation before in many, many, many ways,
Jesus throughout throughout time.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
So it's just a matter of doing it the.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Right way with dignity, with dignity, understanding the security aspects
of it, keeping innocent women and innocent innocent civilians in mind,
and you know, sustainment of human life and food and
water and all those things, which is a very big
concern in Gaza. No matter who's in charge. The infrastructure
is very destroyed, so that you know, there's lots of
mechanical problems with the future beyond the who's beyond the

(09:30):
political side.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
But we've been here before and this is possible.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
It is absolutely possible if all parties and all sides
let cooler heads prevail.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
For sure, understood. Thank you for that, by the way.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Then let's talk more about your point here about the
humanitarian situation on the ground and the toll it just
takes on local residents who are living there.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
As someone who's been to the region.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
It'd be great if you could maybe paint us a
picture for what kind of issues this creates for people
when you don't have access to food, medicine, water, and
other critical supplies that you really need for a civilization.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah, this is this is one of the things that
makes this war so complicated is prior to October seventh,
the Palestinians were largely dependent on Israel for food, water, electricity,
all kinds of things. Then the war starts and Israel, frankly,
rightfully so says we're not going to feed the bad guy,

(10:28):
you know, from their perspective, From their perspective the bad guys.
Imagine if if after nine to eleven we were given
food to Al Qaida, what would people say? We would
we would say that's so stupid, right, why are we
we right where? We're giving money to the Taliban right
now years after the withdrawal, and people are pretty upset
about that. So, you know, kind of this is what

(10:49):
makes the war in Gaza such so difficult, is that
the Palestinians and Gaza were wholly reliant on Israel. Then
they picked a fight with Israel, and all Israel did
was say, okay, no problem.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Nowhere is it written that that.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
We have to feed you.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
You're shooting at us. Nowhere is that written. So that
doesn't sound great.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
If you're a Palestinian mommy or daddy or family in Gaza,
that sounds pretty horrible.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
And they're dealing with the horror of that, and it
is very real.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
The the the the destruction is the pictures on TV
don't do it any justice, very horrible.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
So what are they to do with that for the future.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
There's a very real problem with the infrastructure inside Gaza.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Everything is destroyed. It's it's basically not habitable.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
So something is going to have to happen to either
bring in you know, ten thousand, one hundred thousand, whatever
the number is, generators and fuel and power and turn.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
It into something.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
At the same time, it has to be you know,
although struction has to all the blown up buildings and
stuff have to be excavated. This is a this is
you know, it's kind of like it's kind of like
owning real estate. Across the street from the twin towers.
After nine to eleven, your windows are blown out, the.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Power doesn't work, cell phones don't work, nothing works.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
There's a big steaming hole where two where two giant
towers used to be. The the the infrastructure is so destroyed.
You really people shouldn't live there, notwithstanding the fact that
Palestinians don't want to leave their homes.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
So I get that too. So that part is extremely murky.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, it is now just in our final moment or
so we have. We've got about a minute left on
the clock, Brian. But I really want your respective on
one other thing here that's really interesting. So is really
Prime Minister Benjamin Yahoo. He's made his goal very clear
defeat Hamas unequivocally. So I want to ask you then
about your analysis regarding the IDF and their tactics in

(12:56):
Gaza City throughout the course of this war. What do
you make their operations and whether or not they're precise
and how effective they've been.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
I think that they've had ups and downs like all war, uh. I.
You know, Hamas has has Hamas and the other groups,
Palestinian Islamic Jahad in particular, have absolutely set conditions for
civilians to be killed. Absolutely, We've seen hundreds and hundreds
and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of examples

(13:25):
of it.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
I think the.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Israelis have done the best that they generally speaking, the
best that they could do. Could they always do better,
of course, But but people die in war, and that's
why war is horrible, is you.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Know, uh Plato? Plato said.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Plato said that nobody does, nobody desires peace more than
a soldier because he pays the highest price in combat.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Plato is wrong.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
The people that pay the highest price are the innocent
men and women and children that are stuck in the
middle of it, right. They they're the ones that that
that suffer the most. And a and Israeli mommy that
has to bury her eighteen year old Israeli soldier's son
who got shot in the head by Hamas, her tears
are just as real as a Palestinian mommy who had

(14:11):
to bury her eighteen year old kid who died of
a Israeli artillery shell. Right, mothers cry, And that's very,
very very real and very unfortunate, which is why this thing,
all wars need to end.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
They really do, completely agreed.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
So more often than not, it seems that war just
creates far more problems than it solves. And that's why
I'm praying for peace. I'm very fascinated with thist with
this plan from the Trump administration, and I thank you
for your time today. Brian and your service to this country.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
We thank you very much. We continue to operate in
the region.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
We're doing rescues and getting asked to bring people out
of Gaza all the time.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
As you know, we're donor funded.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Grabelrescue dot org is our website. But we'll continue to
work as long as our funding holds out. But I
fear that there is much more work for us to
do and evacuating people out of all these crazy places Americans,
from all these crazy places between Europe and the Middle
East and Latin America and some other places.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
I think, I think we still have a lot of
dark days ahead of us.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Sadly, I think you might be right.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
But from all of us here at the show, truly
we will be keeping you and your team and our
thoughts and prayers.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Thanks so much, Rile, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Coming up next, President Trump and HHS Secretary R of
K Junior revealed some shocking links queen vaccines the main
ingredient in taiwanol in the autism epidemic in America. More
details after the break. Welcome back to the Real Story.

(15:49):
President Donald Trump and HHS Secretary RFK Junior stunned the
nation this week announcing some pretty curious links between vaccines
I see it a minifit consumption during pregnancy, and America's
autism epidemic. And it is certainly an epidemic, with autism
now afflicting one and thirty one kids per official CDC data,

(16:12):
all while the FDA kicks off a long overdue safety
probe and to the abortion pill mifepristone, citing widely disputed
studies showing up to eleven percent serious adverse events versus
the agency's skimpy claim of just zero point five percent.
So in effect, these studies are about as accurate as
the polling and the lead up to the twenty sixteen

(16:34):
presidential election. But folks, this isn't just talk. It's bigger
than that. It's concrete action. Trump and Kennedy spotlighted al
tailnol's active ingredient might spike risks of autism, urging pregnant
women in America not to take it, or at the
very minimum, understand and consider the ramifications of doing so

(16:59):
while taking it while pregnant. But of course, globalist institutions
like the World Health Organization claim the evidence is inconclusive,
and some on the left are so defiant to President
Trump that they're now popping tailan all like tic TACs.
This is really where the hysteria and the TDS kicks
in in full force.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Just think about it.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
If President Trump recommended against banging your head against a wall,
the health experts, academic lounge lizards, and propaganda media would
produce studies showing that scrambling your brain like an egg
might actually increase its functionality.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
That is where we are in this country.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
And besides big Pharma and the FDA and the CDC,
they would never steer us wrong, would they.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
Now?

Speaker 1 (17:49):
The Trump administration is also pushing FDA approval for lucifeign
a forgotten cancer drug, as a game changing treatment for
autism symptoms. And get this, they're now questioning vaccine schedules too,
demanding changes to timing and safety protocols that big pharma
has long ignored for decades. Meanwhile, RFK Junior's HHS is

(18:14):
restoring common sense, launching that myth of Priston review amid
fears and skepticism, seeking to just protect women from what
critics call a chemical roulette wheel peddled by the radical left,
and Kennedy, to his credit, is no stranger to this
ongoing fight. In fact, his Children's Health Defense has battle
vaccine myths since two thousand and seven. So now with

(18:38):
President Trump at the helm, they're dethroning junk science, empowering
parents with truthful guidelines on shots and over the counter medications.
So now we have some real hope for future generations
that they might live talks and free lives free of poison,
which really is the core of the MAHA mission. Ohhere

(18:59):
with her thoughts and reaction is the President of the
Children's Health Defense, Mary Holland.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Mary, thank you for being here today.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
So here's where I want to start.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
It's something I don't understand, and I'm hoping you can
just elucidate this for me. Here's what I see with
the HHS Secretary RFK Junior, a man who is dedicated
years and years of his life to trying to end
chronic illness, address the core causes of things like autism,
and make the American people healthier. But for that mission,

(19:32):
he's treated with contempt hostility. We saw what happened in
Congress recently with lawmakers basically just shouting at him. I
don't understand that at all, and I want to get
your thoughts about that.

Speaker 6 (19:44):
Yeah, well, sadly, Riley is nothing new.

Speaker 7 (19:47):
Bobby Kennedy has been standing up to this kind of
calumny for almost twenty years. And it's no real surprise
in the sense that what we're up against are trillion
dollar industries and is not just pharma, it's also academic medicine.
It's also mainstream media, it's also the medical profession. These
are all united in this kind of FAIALANX and they've

(20:11):
all been lying.

Speaker 6 (20:12):
To us for fifty.

Speaker 7 (20:13):
Years saying vaccines are safe and effective, They've saved millions
of lives. They don't have any real data behind that.
They don't have any real science. These shots have never
been adequately safety tested. There has never been an inert
placebo double line trial of any of these shots on
children that's worth itself. They never use inert placebos. And

(20:36):
the trial periods, for instance, for hepatitis B given to
newborns was for five days and they used children up
to age ten, and they used one hundred and forty
seven children. That should not give anybody comfort. So yes,
they've been silent, they've suppressed the information, and they use
character assassination, and they will use anything they can to

(20:57):
keep this gravy train running.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
But the good news is it's really running.

Speaker 7 (21:02):
Aground at this point because of President Trump and because
of Secretary Kennedy.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
You know, to your point, which is a fascinating one,
there's also another really important actor here, the people themselves,
the patients, many of them who've had questions for years.
They've raised their concerns and they've been met with just hysteria.
They've been denigrated and neglected. And RFK, he said something
really powerful about these mothers who whose children do suffer

(21:27):
from autism. I want to play these remarks and then
get your thoughts about it.

Speaker 8 (21:31):
One area that we're closely examining as the President is vaccines.
Some forty to seventy percent of mothers who have children
with autism believe that their child was injured by a vaccine.
As in Trump believes that we should be listening to
these mothers instead of gas lighting and marginalize them, marginalizing

(21:55):
them like prior administrations talk about refreshing, right.

Speaker 7 (22:00):
Right, So you know, both Secretary Kennedy and the President
are talking openly. There's clearly an association between autistic regression
and vaccines. Eighty eight percent of cases of autism diagnoses
are plausibly from vaccination. They are regression, a healthy child

(22:22):
developing normally and then stops developing, So you know, and
the tragedy is Secretary Kennedy sort of made clear there,
you know, this manipulation of like my body, my choice,
but not when it comes to your children in vaccines.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
It's bizarre and.

Speaker 7 (22:40):
Really like these issues should not be partisan, Riley, right,
these issues about children's health, they should be as far
from politics as possible. But I think because of the
role of money in all of this, and the role
of culpability frankly and liability. You have to understand that
the pharmaceutical industry and the medical industry have been liability

(23:01):
free since nineteen eighty six when this schedule exploded.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
So there really are issues here about really the.

Speaker 7 (23:09):
Future survival of the pharmaceutical industry and the medical profession
as we know it.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Well, it's really just eye opening and kind of shocking
when you put it that way, because it reveals what
big Pharma really thinks about America's kids. They're not really
human beings. They are lab rats basically to be experimented upon.
It's just really disheartening, and I know we're doing something
about it now, and it's so long overdue. I do
want to get your thoughts though about the tailanyal situation.

(23:35):
Everyone is debating this right now. But rf CASE said
something really interesting about thailanol, So I want to play
this sound bite and then get your reaction to that too.

Speaker 8 (23:44):
Sure Er HHS will act honesty to metaphine. The FDA
is responding to clinical and laboratory studies. It suggests a
potential association between edifit us during pregnancy an ad elemental outcomes,
including later diagnosis for ADHD at autism.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Again, just so interesting and so long overdo that we
have this kind of transparency in America.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
Right exactly, there is transpancy here.

Speaker 7 (24:16):
So the reality is that there have been studies since
the nineteen nineties about the hazards of a set of minifin,
and it's in lots of different products. It's not just thilanol.
It's very difficult to detoxify for a fetus's liver, or
for young infants livers or young children, and not everybody
can detoxify this stuff.

Speaker 6 (24:37):
So it's very important that they've said that they're going
to change the label.

Speaker 7 (24:40):
President Trump was very outspoken, saying, look, common sense, just
tough it out, don't take tailanol when you're pregnant, if
you have a fever, you know, tough it out. At
the worst case than consult your doctor. Take as little
as possible. That's not really an earth shattering recommendation. In fact,
thilanol itself recommends against using this in pregnancy. So this

(25:01):
is again kind of like this Trump derangement syndrome. Really,
it's like, this is a drug that could be harmful
to your fetus.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
You are a mom and a dad. You want your.

Speaker 7 (25:10):
Baby to be as healthy as possible. Just don't take
the risk. I mean, that's all that was said. And
it's not only common sensical, but it really is backed
up by existing science. And we at Children's Health Defense
and other places are going to do more science on
what the what.

Speaker 6 (25:25):
The cofactors are.

Speaker 7 (25:27):
Tailanol is not the only cause of autism, that's for sure,
but it may be an important cofactor.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
That's really interesting.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Just to summarize, I think you really hit the nail
on the head here. This stuff is just common sensical,
not really controversial, still being investigated. But because it's coming
from President Trump and RFK, then it's a problem. It's
not about the content, it's about the source that's delivering
that content, and that just speaks to me about what's
really going on today.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
Sadly, I think that's true.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, well, I just appreciate your work and think for
joining us today on the show, Mary, truly, thank you
so much. Coming up next, North Carolina Congressman Pat Harrigan
joins us to discuss the potential looming government shutdown and
the ticking time bomb that is America's national debt. More
details after the break. Welcome back to the real story.

(26:32):
As the congressional fiscal year comes to a close, lawmakers
face a government funding deadline in an impending government shutdown. Basically,
they have two options on the table. Option one pass
a continuing resolution which would allocate money to certain departments
in the short term, or Option B past twelve separate

(26:53):
full year funding bills, which doesn't really seem to be
all that likely, and as it currently stands like the
most viable option is a continuing resolution, but it's still
not clear entirely what's going to happen. Earlier today, though,
is the clock to avoid a shut down ticks. Actively,
House lawmakers on both sides of the aisle passed a

(27:15):
bill that would have funded the government until November twentieth. However,
it was swiftly blocked by Senate Democrats, who instead offered
their own spending bill that included certain healthcare provisions that
they deemed to be essential. Senate Republicans then block the
bill from advancing, and no new resolutions have been proposed yet.

(27:38):
But the answer for Republicans in Congress is very very simple,
pass a short term funding bill, clean and nonpartisan, with
no games. But for Democrats, on the other hand, they're
insisting on including their add ons to any legislation that
will be passed. So now Congress is basically in a standoff,

(27:59):
and that brings us to who. Senate Majority Leader John Thune,
who had a few things to say about the way
Democrats are handling the situation.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Take a look.

Speaker 9 (28:07):
There were thirteen such opportunities the Democrats had when President
Biden was in the White House, where we did short term,
clean continuing resolutions. The suggestion by the Democrats that somehow
they ought to be able to hijack a continuing resolution
to attach a trillion dollars of policy and cut things

(28:28):
that we just funded a short few weeks ago, like
rural hospitals, is completely out of any sort of historical
context of what continuing resolutions have been used for in
the past. The CR is simply a means to an end,
so to.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Be abundantly clear, here, Democrats are basically rolling the dice
on a potential shutdown because they aren't getting their way.
What a remarkably mature way to handle the situation right wrong.
But here to help us make sense of what's really
going on here and provide us with the latest updates
about it is Representative Pat Harrigan of North Carolina's tenth

(29:08):
congressional district. Representative Harrigan, thank you for being here. Riley,
Thanks for having me. It's always great to be with you,
and it's always great to have you here, sir, especially
with such an important topic to discuss. It's very obvious
that your Democrat colleagues in cap in Washington, d C.
Are playing games with a really critical deadline looming on Monday.

(29:30):
I just want to start by getting your perspective on
that and maybe a comment for those Democrats.

Speaker 10 (29:35):
I think the Democrats have the near term fate of
the country in their hands, right, and they've got a
very simple decision, which is pass the clean continuing resolution
that the House has already passed. Right, they need to
do that in the Senate, Chuck Schumer has to do
it or he's going to shut the government down. And
I'll tell you House Republicans did a great job of

(29:57):
getting it to this point and effectively jam because the
politics of this, right, I think you've talked about Senator
Thune's perspective, but the politics of this is that they've
already voted for this before in the Senate. Right, it's
a continuing resolution from a year ago, and so this
is something the Democrats there have already voted for, and
so if they don't vote for it, instead, they vote

(30:19):
to shut the government down.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
So, going back to nineteen eighty one, we've seen more
than a dozen partial US government shutdowns. I think we
can all agree that's a problem. But what I'm trying
to figure out is what is that the core of
that problem? So I just want to get your perspective
about what you think is really going on and how
we can break out of the cycle moving forward.

Speaker 10 (30:41):
Yeah, I would say that the core of the problem
is that we're not in regular order, right and you
talked about regular order without saying the term. But regular
order is passing those twelve different appropriations bills every year.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
And what we're trying.

Speaker 10 (30:52):
To do with this continuing resolution funding the government through
November twentieth is we're trying to buy time to get
as many of the across the finish line as possible
in regular order. That is important because our country doesn't
go back to operating smoothly until we get to regular order.
But I will tell you, I think in the best

(31:13):
case scenario, we're only going to get eight of twelve
of these appropriations bills done under the regular order process.
We aren't going to fully return to regular order until
we have true bipartisanship. Again, that's what it takes because
you have to have sixty votes in the Senate. And
right now, the Democrats have just such a crazy radical
take on the way that policy should be that has

(31:33):
been leading us down the road to failed outcomes that
I don't see regular order coming anytime soon for our country.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Well to your point, and we just showed this, but
Vice President jd Vance highlighting a really critical element here
because Democrats are talking about these healthcare provisions, But what
really that means is providing healthcare services to people who
are here illegally.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
So let's just back up for a moment.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Millions and millions of Americans struggling to act as healthcare,
many of them dealing with health care debt. These are
our fellow citizens, and Democrats are willing to die on
the hill of free health care for illegal immigrants.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
What do you make of that?

Speaker 10 (32:12):
I just fundamentally do not understand the thought process and
philosophy of the Democratic Party that wants to treat illegal
aliens better than they do American citizens. I think that's
exactly why they lost the election in a landslide back
in November, and it's why they continue to flounder, effectively
floating on an open ocean with no rudder, no motor,

(32:34):
no sale, and completely without a paddle. I mean, these
guys are adrift from a policy perspective. They do not
know who they are, they do not know what they
stand for, and they certainly do not understand what the
majority of the American people want, and so really their
behavior is incredibly destructive right now. I hope that they
choose to do the right thing and keep the government open,

(32:55):
but we shall see. Time will tell Riley.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
I just want what's best for this country, and the
solution here is very, very obvious. But you just raised
another really fascinating question. Who's really pulling the levers right
now for the Democrat Party? Is it Chuck Schumer, Haakim Jeffreys,
someone like AOC Maybe they just don't have a leader whatsoever.
What are your thoughts about who's really calling the shots

(33:18):
or steering the direction of the party big picture?

Speaker 10 (33:22):
You know, one of the things that I learned back
in ranger school when I was going through after graduating
West Point is that the blatoon leader is responsible for
everything that blatoon does or fails to do. And so
if the Democratic Party is floundering, it's because they fundamentally
don't have leadership. The Republican Party is being successful right
now because we have leadership almost everywhere you turn, from

(33:43):
President Trump all the way on down. Because we focused
our leadership efforts and we've said this public service that
we have it's really truly important. It actually changes the
future trajectory of the country. But we know who we
are and we know what we stand for. The Democratic
Party cannot say the same thing, and so until that
leader emerges, and I would contend again that they just

(34:03):
don't have one right now, they're going to be in
the same floundering position and ultimately have really negative impacts
for the future of the country because of it.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Okay, I completely agree with that, and it leads me
wondering what happens next to Congressman. We have one group
of colleagues here, a coalition of people who are ready
for serious results. They have a game plan, they know
what to do, they're ready to implement it basically as
soon as today. But you've got Democrats digging in their heels.
So what can you and your colleagues really do about

(34:34):
that from here?

Speaker 10 (34:35):
Well, I think number one, we've got different processes and
procedures that we can implement to move our agenda across
the finish line. We just completed a reconciliation package back
in July July fourth. President Trump signed that into law,
absolutely transformational policy with respect to where this country is
going moving forward compared to where it was moving in

(34:56):
the last four years. And we can continue to go
back to that reconciliation well, and I think that we will,
because until we can actually have principled compromise with Democrats
who understand reality and are willing to actually move this
country forward in the right direction, there is no room
for compromise because that compromise becomes compromised devoid of principle.

(35:18):
That's what the Republican Party has done for the last
sixty years. That has allowed all this liberal creep to
come in, that has gotten us into the position that
we're in, and we're simply not willing to allow that
state of affairs to continue. Riley and so really up
until the point where some of our Democratic colleagues, and
I have great hope for some of our Democratic colleagues,
particularly the freshman class, that see things a little bit

(35:40):
more clearly than the folks who have been there and
have been entrenched and have been really captured by the
radical left. I've got great hopes that in the future
we can come to some sort of principled consensus on
the direction that this country should go and we end
up having regular order in Congress again. But I don't
see that happening anytime soon until some of these fresh
and Democrats start rising in the ranks, replacing some of

(36:02):
these folks that are just fundamentally gone.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Completely agreed with you there, Congressman brings me to my
final question, and maybe my most important one for you today. So,
from the perspective of the average American who's just trying
to feed their family, work a job, keep the lights on,
what they see is a lot of infighting and dysfunction,
especially coming from the radical left.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Right now, I'm wondering, in your.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Opinion, what kind of message does that infighting really send
to the American people.

Speaker 10 (36:31):
I think it's a destabilizing force across the entire country.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Right.

Speaker 10 (36:34):
At some point, it just erodes the confidence and trust
that the American people have in their government. When you
pair that with a mainstream media that has really adopted
a woke leftist agenda, it's so corrosive to the future
of the strength of the fabric of our country. And
I just I think people are opening up their eyes, right,

(36:56):
I mean, they're not really consuming legacy media like they
used to. They're not reading the newspapers like they used to.
They're listening to podcasts, they're on oan here, right, They're
on alternative media tracks that are actually providing people with
the truth. That's the most important thing, right, I mean,

(37:16):
the American people have largely lost wisdom and discernment to
discern absolute truth because they've just been told a lie
for so long. But I think they're waking up to that.
And the more that we wake up to this, the
better position our country will be in because we can
actually have honest discourse that doesn't turn into discord that

(37:38):
ultimately results in the violence that we have seen leveraged
against Republicans. But I think we're leading through that. We
have the right leadership coming up. The next generation is saying,
you know what, we are ready here, I am send me,
We're ready to lead, and I just I think our
country is actually poised to do some very incredible things.

(37:59):
I'm looking forward to the journey ahead. I'm very very
hopeful for the United States of America despite our friction
and frustration that we have and still see today.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
As am I and I just want to wish you
godspeed with this very important deadline. I see that you're
working very hard in Washington. I just really appreciate that.
And one more thing. I've said this before on the
show with you, but truly thank you for your service
to this great country. It's people like you that keep
us safe and free and independent. So thank you for.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
That, sir.

Speaker 10 (38:27):
I'm so glad to do it, and Riley, You're worth it,
and so is everybody else watching this today, So thank
you very much. Absolutely see yah.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Coming up next, North Carolina passes Arena's Law, a bill
that could reinstate executions and end the senseless practice of
cashless bail for criminals. More details about what that means
exactly after the break. Welcome back to the real story.

(39:03):
So our next topic today takes us to Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
So last month in the City of Charlotte, repeat offender
to Carlos Brown Junior, out on no bond release despite
having over a dozen prior arrests and a schizophrenia diagnosis,
brutally stabbed a twenty three year old Ukrainian refugee named
Irana Zerutzka to death on a light rail train, a

(39:28):
preventable outrage that exposes the deadly folly of soft on
crime bail policies. Now North Carolina is fighting back with
IRENA's Law, a freshly passed bill which cuts cashless bail
for many offenses, mandates mental health screening for defendants, and
could even restart executions that have been stalled. In the

(39:50):
state since two thousand and six, finally delivering justice for
more than one hundred people who are currently on death
row nationwide, It's the same nightmare in different cities. For example,
take twenty twenty two's New York killer who executed a
mom before her own kids just hours after no bail freedom.

(40:13):
Or how about twenty twenty four's illegal immigrants who bit
New York City police officers and then skipped bail free.
What about earlier this year in Washington, d C, America's
capital city, where an assailant released without bond fatally knifed
a metro rider two days later. Now, the White House

(40:34):
has released a statement calling cashless bail a government backed
crime spree, listing over a dozen examples, such as the
ones we just mentioned, of individuals released under those exact
same circumstances who almost immediately ended up committing more crimes.
The White House even wrote, quote, the radical less fantasy

(40:56):
of so called cashless bail has turned the streets of
america cities into hunting grounds for repeat criminals who mock
our justice system by committing crime after crime without consequences. Now,
the solution to this really heinous and wicked problem is
quite obvious. End cashless bail and crack down on crime

(41:17):
before innocence pay the price once again, because catch and
release that should be reserved for fish.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Not for felons.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Now here with his thoughts, analysis and reaction is candidate
for US Senate in South Carolina, Mark Lynch, thank you
for joining me.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
Sir, thank you for having me on today.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Riley.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
So it's clearly about time that we end this cashless
bail system. And here's what I find really interesting, and
I want to get your perspective here. So the data
seems to clearly indicate that the overwhelming majority of crime
in America is coming from a really small population of people,
people who find themselves back on the streets time and

(42:00):
time again when they really don't belong there because of
systems like cashlest bail. So I'd be really curious to
see what happens to crime rates in North Carolina if
this bill gets signed into law.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
You know, it's a privilege and it's a gift that
a criminal would have if he can get out on
ten percent of the bail bond or something like that,
depending on the severity of the crime. Otherwise they need
to sit there in jail till their hearing comes up,
so that we know that we have them. You know,
a study was done by John Jay College and it

(42:35):
proved that sixty six percent of the people that were
let out we're back involved in a felony crime again
within two years. And so we've had a compassionate, kind
of a crazy opinion by these judges that are seemed
to be working for the criminals. And it's not working,

(42:57):
is it, Raleigh. I mean, they're getting back out and
committee more crimes, and people are dying and getting hurt,
and people are being vandalized needlessly.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
I agree, maybe it's just being too compassionate, But all
that compassion and empathy for the most violent people in
your society comes at the expense.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Of everybody else. So it's a weird, twisted.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Kind of compassion. But it does bring me to this question.
I want your thoughts, Mark, and I'm trying to keep
an open mind. I'm trying to make sense of this,
but I'd like to get your thoughts about the logic
behind bringing cashless bail systems into place. To begin with,
I don't understand it, but if you had to take
a guess, why would anybody ever be in favor of

(43:37):
cashless bail in the first place.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
Yeah, you've got me on that, Robbie.

Speaker 8 (43:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
It's just, you know, they've never been a victim of
a repeated defender like this guy to Carlos Brown, that
had fourteen prior convention convictions. Why is he even out
at all? He needs to be in jail serving his sentencing.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yeah, no, absolutely, it is just it's really bonkers. But
just looking back on the case, because obviously, you know,
there's the suspect here to Carlos Brown Junior. Then there
are the judges that go along with this. You would
think judges would know a little bit better than to
trust criminals at their face value in this case, to
Carlo Is saying that he would just come back for
a court hearing. What do you make of these judges?

(44:23):
Are they just naive to idealistic corrupt? What's the core
problem here in terms of the judges.

Speaker 5 (44:30):
Well, we know our educational system in America has been
controlled and changed out by the enemies of our country,
and our law school needs to be investigated what they're
being taught. You know, we have all these studies that
prove their repeat offenders when they get let out again.
Catch and release. Like you said, that's more for fish,

(44:52):
not criminals.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
I think you're probably right about that.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
So what I'm hoping to see is number one, this
bill gets passed into law in North Carolina. We can
start protecting the innocent and punishing the guilty. Again, that's
what justice is. It's a central foundational tenet of this country.
Punish the guilty, protect the innocent, protect our country.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Really not rocket science.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Here and then from there, should this bill get passed
into law, let's set an example for every other state
in the country. Lord knows California could use this, New York,
so many others. So I want to leave this with
you final thoughts. Do you think this could be the
start of a revival, a rebirth, and really just a
return to what seems to be obvious common sense and

(45:35):
the way we deal with justice and crime in America?

Speaker 5 (45:39):
I hope.

Speaker 9 (45:39):
So.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
I think we're in a revival as a nation, and
we will not let Charlie Kirk's life go down in
vain for what he did and what he stood for.
And we're bringing back common sense into many things. How
many more people need to die and be violated by
repeat offenders when we know that's what's happening and all
the studies prove it. And if these judges are are

(46:02):
too compassionate with the felonies, those that have committed evil crimes,
that have murdered people, that are repeat offenders, they need
to be they need to be questioned and maybe disbarred
from practicing law. It's just we can't do it.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
Well, we've got to protect life, liberty in the pursuit
of happiness, not criminal activity.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah. Enough is enough? Really, well said Mark. So thank
you for being here.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Yeah, good luck with your campaigns while we wish you godspeed.
We need more patriots in Washington, DC, and I know
that's who you are.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
So just thank you for your time today. I really
do appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
Thank you have our viewers go to Lynch for Senate
dot com to get involved in our campaign. Here in
South Carolina, we don't have cashless bell in our state
and it's going to stay that way.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Coming up next, an elementary school boy who challenged the
establishment skips class to meet with the Vice President. More
details about how that went. After the break, welcome back

(47:25):
to the real story. You know, one of my all
time favorite memories as a child was playing hooky, believe
it or not, just blowing off school to basically do
literally anything else. And I think the only thing that
could have made it even better was doing it to
meet the vice president of these United States. And that

(47:46):
right there is the topic on today's edition of Real
Good News, where we have a story about a boy
who did just that.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Take a look, young man.

Speaker 6 (47:55):
This is a very earnest young man.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
He doesn't look like a journalist to me, But go
ahead shout out a question, because I'm not gonna deny
that level of energy and that level of passion.

Speaker 6 (48:04):
What's first of all, what's your name, Henry. It's good
to meet you, Henry. Ask you a question please.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
I was wondering if I could get a picture of.

Speaker 10 (48:27):
Henry, said, I skipped school?

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Can I have a picture with you? Well, I guess
you've gotta have some excuse.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
To skip school, so I might as well get a
photo with Henry. Well played, just talk about a masterclass, truly,
and what an excuse to skip school. By the way, now,

(48:54):
for those who are wondering, that was in conquered North
Carolina on Wednesday, as Vice President Vance was giving a
speech about tax cuts and support for law enforcement, and
I just can't imagine having the kind of selfie to
brag about that to your friends the next day. So
Henry well played. Good for you, my friend. By the way,

(49:14):
it's also really nice to see a vice president that
is giving a voice to the next generation, to the
future of America, even if it's only to ask for
something like a selfie. And that concludes today's broadcast. We
truly hope you enjoyed it, and remember we always want
to hear from you, so please email your feedback and

(49:34):
any new stories you'd like us to cover to The
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we meet again, God bless you, God bless our troops,
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