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September 11, 2025 • 51 mins
The Nation's Report Card is out and the results are grim - an education expert joins us to discuss the core causes of this crisis and how to address it.


Guests:


Corey DeAngelis | Senior Fellow, American Culture Project
David Pollack | Attorney & Host, The David Pollack Show
J.D. Hayworth | Former U.S. Representative, Arizona's 5th Congressional District
Daniel Baldwin | OANN White House Correspondent
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Episode Transcript

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to the Real Story. I'm your host, Riley Lewis.
Thank you for joining us. A good education system is
the precursor to prosperity. This has been the case for
every successful society in all of human history, from ancient China,
in ancient Egypt, to ancient Greece and to ancient Rome.

(00:31):
And that's because education is a critical part of societal advancement.
Education opens the door to doing things that were previously
believed to be impossible, and it plays a foundational role
in any successful civilization. It shapes personal growth, expands our
collective knowledge base, and enables us to adapt to life's challenges.

(00:55):
And for many, many years, the United States of America
was renowned all over the world for having some of
the best education systems around. But now those days are
long gone, and it leaves us with some urgent questions.
Academic standards are sinking like a stone, National test scores

(01:16):
appear to be plummeting, and newly released data suggests that
something is deeply wrong. That brings us to today's top story.
The Latest Nations report Card, an annual report that was
recently released by the National Center for Education Statistics, reveal
some alarming declines in academic performance among our countries eighth

(01:38):
and twelfth graders across really critical subjects think science, math,
and even reading. And these aren't just minor setbacks, if
you will, they represent a continuing erosion of foundational skills
that our young people really need in order to succeed
in an ever competitive world where tomorrow isn't guaranteed, and

(02:01):
we all have a duty as Americans to confront this
crisis head on. So on that note, let's break down
these specifics from this very sobering assessment. According to this
brand new data released just this week, high school senior
scores and reading in math have plummeted to their lowest
point in decades, signaling not just a temporary setback from

(02:25):
the scamdemic years, but a year's long decline of their
collective knowledge and critical subjects. And naturally and rightfully, such
findings leave us all wondering how exactly did we get here?
The US, after all, is the wealthiest and most prosperous
country on the entire planet, but at this rate, that

(02:49):
could dramatically change as the country's next generation of leaders
who will shape this country's future fall behind in school
and while the core causes of this crisis are certainly
up for debate and interpretation, At least to some extent,
the data itself is very troublesome. So for example, for

(03:10):
twelfth graders tested in early twenty twenty four, average reading
scores hit rock bottom, the lowest since tracking began in
the year nineteen ninety two, with a staggering thirty two
percent of students falling below even the basic proficiency level,
unable to grasp straightforward details in a given text. But also,

(03:31):
it's not just linguistics, and the story is equally disturbing
and grim for math as Scortes for high school seniors
are also at their lowest levels since about two thousand
and five, with forty five percent of them being below
basic achievement, the highest such percentage in nearly two decades,
and only thirty three percent deemed ready for college level coursework,

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a drop from thirty seven percent just five years ago.
Interesting to say the least, And for those out there
who were hoping that these are just isolated situations, they aren't.
Things have been dramatically sliding in this direction for many years,
and the gaps between high and low performing students, even

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among racial and certain ethnic lines are becoming wider and
more drastic than ever before. Even eighth grader showed steep
to clientes in science, with gender disparities re emerging in
the fields of sten So for all of those critical reasons,
now education experts are sounding the alarm bells. America's students

(04:36):
are rapidly falling behind the curve. That much is very clear,
and at a time when it's never been easier to
access information, begging the question, what's really going on here?
How can this be? Yes, the scandemic certainly took a
big toll on students, parents, administrators, families, and even teachers,

(04:58):
and learning loss became a widespread in national issue due
to school closures, but even still, some of this decline
began well before those lockdowns, way before them. Actually. Now,
some people out there believe the problem lies with the
fact that students have shorter attention spans these days from
spending huge amounts of their time looking at screens and

(05:18):
social media. Others believe, however, it's a reflection of bad
teaching methods in the classroom, like only assigning three books
to read a year in English classes instead of ten
or twelve or fifteen or twenty, meaning we're not helping
students build the muscles they need to learn. But whatever
the underlying cause is, the results are clear. Students are

(05:41):
actively stepping into adulthood with less knowledge and fewer skills
than their parents did, leading to a wide range of
issues for society in the country. And it also comes
in spite of the fact that schools collectively receive millions,
if not billions, of dollars in federal funding every year.
So if all this federal spending haven't stemmed this rising tide,

(06:03):
what exactly are we getting for our tax dollars and
how exactly can policymakers help us get back on track
to achieving education excellence. What's the best solution for this
growing problem. The answer to that critical question is also
up for debate, but the takeaway here is crystal clear,
abundantly clear. It's time for massive change in the classroom.

(06:26):
This problem. It's bigger than just a financial one, and
it's bigger than just statistics and numbers. It's time to
prioritize results over bureaucracy once again. It's time to return
to rigorous, no nonsense curricula, and it's time to stop
lowering the expectations for students in the classroom. Now Here

(06:47):
with his analysis, insights, and reaction is Corey de angelis,
a school choice evangelist and a senior Fellow for the
American Culture Project. Corey, thank you for joining me.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Hey, thanks for having me. Riley.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
So, the data here is unequivocally very alarming, but there's
a debate right now about what's really driving this problem.
So I want to start there. What do you think
are really the underlying causes behind our fall behind in
terms of the classroom and academic performance.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Well, it's not for lack of money.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
We are in international embarrassment with these scores coming out.
We spend more than any other country on the planet.
We spend about twenty thousand dollars per student per year in.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
The government run school system.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
That's about fifty percent higher than average private school tuition,
and the amount has increased year after year since nineteen seventy.
We've increased per student spending by about one hundred and
seventy percent rightly after adjusting for inflation. Have the outcomes
gotten one hundred and seventy percent better? No, they're at
the lowest they've ever been in decades. It's insane, yet

(07:53):
the unions want to throw more money at the problem.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
It's the definition of insanity.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Look at places, I mean nationwide, we have eighty percent
of kids not proficient in math. You look at places
like Illinois where the unions called shots and run the show.
They have eighty public schools Riley with not a single
kid zero kids proficient in math and eighty schools eight zero.
That is, it is unbelievable. It's like, what are they doing?

(08:18):
And the test scores just hit the tip of the iceberg.
These are violent institutions as well. The FBI just released
a report this year showing one point three million crimes
at school. So the test scores are bad, but the
safety's bad as well, and the curriculums of mess. When
the teachers unions are digging so deep into trying to
put radical gender ideology into the schools, Marxist race based

(08:43):
DEI principles into the schools. When they're focused on dividing
people and telling them that they're going to be failures
just because of what they look like, and telling them
that their country is racist and that it's stacked against them,
why would you work hard, why would you try to
do a good job when you're being all this negativity
all the time. The schools are focused more on the

(09:03):
LGBTs than the abcs, so it shouldn't surprise us that
our math, reading, and writing scores have fallen off a cliff.
And it's partially, like you said, because the union spot
to close the schools, but it's also because their priorities
are all out of whack. They care about themselves. They've
turned the school system into a jobs program for adults,
not an education initiative for kids. And there's a lot

(09:26):
of teachers who aren't on board with this. They need
to defund the union, dismantle it from the inside, and
join alternatives like the Teacher Freedom Alliance that doesn't give
your money to Democrat campaign coffers and bar left agendas.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
That is fascinating. I want to dive a little deeper
than into that, Corey. So these schools. Funding isn't the
issue for a lot of these schools, but you're talking
about priorities and where the money's really going, whether it's
political indoctrination, hiring DEI ambassadors or whatever. Who is making
those critical decisions on the ground. Once school systems actually
receive federal funs.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well, it's the union bosses, people like Randy Winegarden and
Becky Pringle. They control the school systems because they.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Get owning bosses, not teachers, not administrators exactly.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
That there's a lot of teachers who are Look if
you look at the Education Week polling on this, they
found that recently a nationwide survey, only forty one percent
of teachers identified as Democrats. Most of them said they
were independents. And we don't know which way they're leaving,
but there's a lot of conservatives in the teach in
the school system too, and they're not on board with
Randy Winingarten. Just on Labor Day earlier this month, she

(10:31):
was screaming at the top of her lungs in Chicago
where they have, you know, thirty thousand dollars per student
that they're wasting, where their union boss sends her own
kid to private school. Total hypocrisy. But she called Trump
a pharaoh, comparing him to people that engaged in massive
amounts of slavery and even mass killings in some instances.
If you look at the Bible, and this is I mean,

(10:53):
this has nothing to do with education.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
She went to Ukraine during the war to kind of
engage in politics too.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
I mean, nobody knows who paid for that or why
she went there in the first place, but her priorities
are all out of whack, and so we need to
convince teachers to leave the union. But we also need
to show politicians that parents aren't going to stand for
it anymore. They need to hold people accountable at the
ballot box because they just want their kids to be safe.
They want their kids to get a good education. They

(11:21):
don't want to hear that there's a thousand genders. They
just want the schools to return to sanity. And once
you do that, you shouldn't be surprised when the scores
start to do better. And guess what, when you have competition,
when you have school choice.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
The public schools.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Have gotten better in places like Florida, where it's been
a rising tide that lifts all boats, and Florida spends
twenty seven percent less than the national average.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
It's not a money issue, trust me.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Well, that's interesting you bring the market into it, because
anybody can tell you this. When the government runs everything,
when it controls everything, when it operates everything, you basically
have socialism. There's no competition. There's no real incentive to
be efficient, effective, or productive. It doesn't matter if they're
running the post office or the grocery store or your
kids' schools. That much is very clear. And you look

(12:08):
at the Department of Education, This institution has been around
for decades, and you look at the data simultaneously and
you see a steep drop off in terms of reor failure.
So what do they have to say for themselves? Because
this is a crisis Cory.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
The Department of Education was created with this explicit purpose
to close achievement gaps. You have the data coming out
today showing that like four or five percent of black
kids are proficient in Wisconsin. I mean, it is an
international embarrassment. It is systemic racism at its finest. If
you look at the left's own definition for the word,
but they won't call it out in the public school system.

(12:43):
Why because it is controlled by their political contributors.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
That is the far left.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Arm of the Democrat Party that we call the teachers Union.
They are nothing more than a money laundering operation for
one political party. Randy Weingarten's union contributes ninety nine percent
of their money to the Democrats washed Rench repeat money
laundering every single election cycle. It's been like that for
over three decades. We have data on this from Open Secrets.

(13:10):
It's right out there for everyone to see. And a
recent report showed that the unions only spend about ten
percent of their funding coming from the union dues on
representing their members. I mean, it is embarrassing. It's not
going to educating kids. We've seen that, the data bears
it out, and so it's time to abolish the department.
They've done nothing but spend three trillion dollars or so

(13:34):
at the federal level since the inception. It was created
as a political payoff by Jimmy Carter to the teachers Union,
and it's become so obvious if you look at all
the data that's come out, especially this week.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Well, and to your point, it's more than an embarrassment,
it's a giant failure for America's kids. They deserve so
much better, and you're talking about the ways we can
better serve them.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
So but it's been successful for the Democrats. That's the
thing we're speaking about success for education and what it's
supposed to be about. They see it as a way
to get them elected into office. Wisconsin just had a
study come out in NBR, the Bureau of Economic Research,
showing that Wisconsin's Act ten weakening the teachers unions did
a couple of things.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
That it lowered their revenues. We knew that was going
to happen.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
It lowered contributions to the Democrat Party, which that's an
obvious result as well, but it improved student test scores
and it didn't hurt teacher salaries overall as well.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
So I mean, this is not rocket science. Provide more accountability.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
The unions fight to protect the lowest common denominator, they
fight against transparency, but parents want better, and so we
need to defang the unions, revoke their federal charter, which
that's another story altogether that they even have one. But
it's time to for parents in the driver's seat.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Okay, then I want to pivot them with you because
we only have a couple of minutes left. This is
a really important issue that a lot of people have raised,
but I want to get your insight into it. The
lowering of expectations and standards for students classroom, the soft
bigotry of low expectations, giving them just a few books
to read over the course of a whole year letting
them take take home quizzes and tests instead of really

(15:09):
challenging them to think critically to develop their learning skills.
Where do that problem come from and how do we
address it?

Speaker 2 (15:16):
I mean, we've seen in Illinois right now. JB.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Pritsker just went on a press conference bragging about how
great Illinois is, which they had eighty schools with zero
percent proficiency.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
What do they do?

Speaker 3 (15:25):
They ended up lowering the bar so that they can
act like everything's fine and dandy. So of course, I mean,
the public school system just wants to pretend that everything's fine.
They don't want that transparency, which is the best disinfectant
because once you know, if you lower the scores, everybody
gets a trophy. Oh we're doing a great job. Give
us even more money, reward us for our greatness. The
thing is they are failing, and when we see from

(15:47):
tests at the national level with the nation's report card,
they can't really play as many games they can play
games with their state level tests. But you know, at
the end of the day, the parents need to have
echurn vigilance. It's the price of liberty. You need to
pay attention to these things just because your kids coming
home with all a's does not mean they're learning all
that much, right, So you need to have those conversations

(16:09):
at the kitchen table because the school system is going
to cover itself up and try to protect itself and
sweep things under the rug.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Well, it's a careful balancing act. Think about the average
American household. Now, two parents that are working full time jobs.
Who's going to make sure the kiddo is doing their homework,
Who's going to answer their questions about their science project
and class or something. So I think it's really hard.
And we saw this during COVID where there's so much
weight on the parent, on the shoulders of parents to
be teachers, tutors, guidance counselors, all at the same time

(16:38):
in addition to bringing home the income and also just
being parents. So I understand that parents are in a
real bind here. And so I'm looking at people like
Winegarden and that's really where my resentment is personally. But Corey,
I have to end things there before I do. Though.
For people who want to know more about you, your work,
everything that you're doing, where can they go to follow you?

Speaker 3 (16:59):
It's at DeAngelis, Corey, and you can get a copy
of my book, The Parent Revolution, Rescuing Your Kids from
the radicals ruining our Schools. It was endorsed by Trump,
Pete Hegseth than others, and it's now a national bestseller
and it's also about forty percent off on Amazon right now,
The Parent Revolution.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Okay, thank you very much for being here today, Corey,
truly thank you. Coming up next, the maniac who fatally
stabbing Ukraine refugee in North Carolina is now facing federal charges.
An attorney joins us next to discuss what this means
and what justice for this perpetrator really looks like. More
details after the break.

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Speaker 1 (17:59):
Welcome back to the real Story. We continue now with
our coverage of the horrific tragedy that took place on
a North Carolina train back on August twenty second. So
imagine for just a moment, fleeing the horrors of war
in Ukraine for a new life in America, only to
be brutally stabbed to death on a public train. That's

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the tragic reality for twenty three year old Irena Zerutzka,
killed on August twenty second, twenty twenty five, and a
completely heinous and unprovoked attack on Charlotte's Lynx Blue Line
by de Carlos Brown Junior, a thirty four year old
homeless man with untreated schizophrenia and a rap sheet longer
than the US tax code. Brown Junior brutally stabbed her

(18:44):
in front of a train full of people and then
just left her there to bleed out alone, with nobody
to comfort or console her in her final moments on
this planet. Zarutzka's killer wasn't some average guide down on
his luck one day either. He was a ticking time
bomb the system diffused with kid gloves. In fact, Brown's

(19:05):
violent history stretches way back to two thousand and seven,
with over a dozen arrests for everything from assaults and
disorderly conduct to felony breaking and entering. But digging deeper
here for just a moment the red flags scream. In
twenty fourteen, he held a gun to a Honduran man's head,
assaulted him, and robbed him of seven hundred and fifty

(19:27):
dollars and a phone, earning a five year prison stint.
Being paroled in twenty twenty. Barely free, he turned on
his own family, charged that same year with assaulting his
sister in a schizophrenic rage fueled by delusions that had
his mother desperately petitioning courts for involuntary commitment. She got

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at once, leading to his schizophrenia diagnosis under observation, but
the holds were short lived and the follow up non existent.
Like this sinister mental health merry go round with no breaks.
Fast forward then too. January of twenty twenty five, Brown,
unraveling once again, calls nine to one one repeatedly outside

(20:10):
of a hospital, ranting and raving about man made materials,
somehow controlling his body. Officers then arrive on the scene
and he dials again right in front of them. Charged
with misusing emergency services, a misdemeanor, sure, but from a
guy with his track record. Now, Magistrate judged Teresa Stokes,

(20:32):
not even an elected judge but instead an appointed magistrate,
and not even a licensed attorney who has never passed
the bar exam, cut him loose just two days later
on nothing but a written promise to appear in court,
no bail, no monitoring, no questions about his violent past,

(20:52):
or ignored pleas from family, just a signature, as if
paperwork could chain a predator. Then adding insult to injury here,
Stokes and her wife, Ayanna Rosalind Ballard are both directors
of Pinnacle Recovery Group, a non profit treatment center located
in Michigan, while Ballard runs a mental health and addiction

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clinic in Charlotte, North Carolina, specializing specifically in court ordered evaluations,
right in the heart of this failed system, which in
and of itself seems worthy of further investigation. I mean,
how can you own a treatment center and also be
a magistrate. Wouldn't there be some sort of conflict of interest?

(21:36):
One would think so. But by July, a judge finally
ordered a forensic evaluation, but it was far, far too late.
Brown was already roaming free when he plunged a knife
into Zaruska's throat three times, pausing like he was deciding
on lunch.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
Now.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt spoke about this heinous
and heartbreaking tragedy and the fact that it could have
been prevented. Take a listen.

Speaker 6 (22:01):
When Brown was arrested yet again in January of this
past year, a Democrat judge who will I will add
was a supporter, a strong supporter of former Vice President
Kamala Harris, released this insane criminal once again without requiring
him to pay any bail. He simply had to sign
a written promise to return for his court hearing. Think

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about how crazy it is to ask a career criminal,
someone who by definition repeatedly breaks the law, to just
sign a written promise and come back again another day.
This is madness. This monster should have been locked up,
and Arena should still be alive.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
And now facing federal charges announced by Attorney General Pam
Bondi Tuesday that could mean the death penalty, which President
Trump has openly called for alongside first degree murder. This
revolving door of leniency has North Carolina Republicans beging or
begging for Stokes badge and a full reckoning. And what
about the Democratic politics and legacy media outlets either ignoring

(23:02):
this story or even worse, blaming MAGA and President Trump
for using the tragedy to push an agenda, a projection.
Much just when you thought the media couldn't get any
more slimy and deceitful and sinister. They use the tragic
murder of a young Ukrainian refugee to take shots at
the Trump administration. That right there is ghoulish, to say

(23:26):
the least, using the death of a young woman to
fuel their own political agenda. Infuriating, despicable, shameful, and yet
sadly not very surprising.

Speaker 7 (23:38):
Now.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
President Trump said that the Democrats have blood on their
hands for their soft on crime policies and what appears
to be a soft spot for criminal behavior at the
very expensive citizens they're supposed to be protecting. So we
all really need to ask ourselves this, when compassion blinds
us to danger, when a warped sense of empathy leads
to death and destruction and chaos, and with so many

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opportunities to stop this tragedy from ever occurring, whose blood
is really on the systems hands? Here with his thoughts
about it is David Pollack, an attorney and the host
of The David Pollock Show. David, thank you for joining
me today.

Speaker 7 (24:14):
Man, thanks for having me. It's great to be with
you again.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
So we have this young girl twenty three years old,
twenty three leaves a war torn country to come to
the land of freedom and opportunity in search of refuge,
safety and security, just to be brutally murdered on a
public train in front of many other bystanders who do nothing,

(24:38):
and the legacy media doesn't even want to cover the story,
or they want to blame President Trump, or they want
to blame Republicans. I don't want to make this totally
about the legacy media and their coverage of this or
non coverage, but I do want to get your thoughts
about what we're seeing right now, because it's more than shameful,
it's more than sinister. It's just it's evil to meet David,

(24:59):
and I want to get your perspective about that.

Speaker 8 (25:02):
Yeah, I mean, you look at what's happening, not just
I mean, we'll talk about Charlotte specifically, but if you
look what's happening in places like DC, places like Chicago,
places even like Birmingham and other cities in Louisiana, across
this country, we have a crisis of both crime and
mental health, and whether the mental health is related to

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drugs and or other organic reasons. These people are committing
crimes among innocent people, and what's really kind of troubling.

Speaker 7 (25:33):
About all of this is all of this is random.

Speaker 8 (25:36):
Like you have these people walking around almost like zombies,
waiting for their next victim, and then they just attack.
You can't prepare for it, you can't see it coming
because you never know.

Speaker 7 (25:45):
Right, these people are insane.

Speaker 8 (25:47):
Trump has talked about in opening up what he calls
the insane asylums. We have a mental health crisis in
this country, but the mental health crisis is being compounded
by casualsts, bail, and soft on crime policies. So when
you have people with mental illness that can get the
mental health treatment they need, when they combine that with
things like drug addiction, and then you combine that things
like they're committing crimes, and then they're being released. So

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now you have insane people with long rap sheets which
showed a propensity to violence like this individual did, and
the results like you've seen in Charlotte, like you see
in DC, like you see in New York with people
being pushed on a train tracks. It's all the same
insane people doing insane thing and then the state sitting
on their hands and acting as if there's nothing they
can do about it. Well, we know that things can

(26:29):
be done in President Trump is showing that things can
in fact be done, and we'll see real soon how
quickly we can make this problem go away.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
So one of the big problems here, of course, the
policy failures. You're alluding to the fact this man was
even walking around the streets as a free man instead
of being behind bars where he obviously should have been,
thanks to this magistrate. So for people who are wondering
right now, please tell us what kind of power does
a magistrate specifically have.

Speaker 8 (26:56):
Well, you know, it depends, but like in this instance,
these magistrates are able to make decisions on preliminary criminal matters.
They can make decisions in civil matters. The magistrates system
and other places do it different ways. Sometimes they have
county judges or city judges, but they're.

Speaker 7 (27:12):
Not really judges.

Speaker 8 (27:13):
They're like lawyers who volunteer in this case, they're not
even lawyers. These people are just, I don't know, call
them administrative law judges without a law degree.

Speaker 7 (27:20):
They're not real judges. They're not real lawyers.

Speaker 8 (27:23):
They are given the authority to make decisions such as
the one in this case, a terrible decision. But the
state and this or the cities give them these powers.
Based on the fact that they don't have the budget
and or the staffing, or the room in their dockets
to actually adjudicate all these things. So they tried to
do it in an effort of judicial efficiency. But what
they're doing is denying the public justice. And that's the

(27:44):
real problem here with magistrates. It's what they're allowing them
to do and whether they should be doing it at all.
I mean, it's definitely something we should be taking a
closer look at people who are not lawyers making legal
decisions that have significant impacts such as these. But the
federal governments get involved now and there will be I believe,
real justice soon, and I do think we should be
taking a closer look at the way these magistrates operate

(28:06):
and see if there's anything that could be done at
a federal level they as well.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
I completely agree with that for all the reasons you
just laid out. But then to your point about federal charges,
what's the next step in this process?

Speaker 8 (28:16):
David, Yeah, well, so, I mean, obviously he's facing charges
in North Carolina. North Carolina follows an insanity rule that's
pretty rigid.

Speaker 7 (28:24):
It's called the Magnotton Rule.

Speaker 8 (28:26):
The federal government follows the same sort of standard for
if you're going to a ledge that you're crazy and
you like this guy's saying, the government put like robots
in his body or something, and he couldn't control his actions.

Speaker 7 (28:37):
They did it.

Speaker 8 (28:37):
He was just kind of an unwilling participant. That defense
usually isn't enough to overcome the McNaught and rule. You
can't you wouldn't be able to satisfy that standard to
raise that defense. You would not be able to understand
what you're doing. He knew exactly what he was doing,
he just said he couldn't control it. That's not going
to qualify as the defense. So he's facing murder charges
in North Carolina. He's also going to be facing federal

(28:58):
murder charges. One trial will come for the other. I
think the federal case I doubt he'll get I don't
think he'll be able to walk from this state case,
but the federal case is going to be serious as well.
He's facing the death penalty federally, but the state has
to be done with him first before he's turned over
to federal custody. So I think, really what we're going
to have here is in an example that the federal

(29:20):
government will not allow states soft on crime policies to
victimize innocent Americans. And this is part of a larger
conversation that we need to have, Riley, because uclicking places
like Chicago where you have liberals from their safe suburbs
marching in with preprinted signs for more crime in underserved,
usually minority communities that want the help, and then the

(29:42):
liberals come in and say, no, no, no, no no, it's
racist for you to enforce crimes in these neighborhoods. And
yet the people in this neighborhood are saying, excuse me,
it's racist for you to not whin sixty percent up
to eighty percent in some places of black crimes go
unsolved versus somewhere around forty percent of white crimes in
these similar areas. Because these areas don't have the resources,
yet you have people who want these people to continue

(30:04):
to be victimized. And we're seeing it in Charlotte, were
seeing in Chicago, seeing in New York. What we need
to do is allow the federal government to preserve American's
right to life, yes, and protect them in the cities
when the Democrat failed leadership fails to do so.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Final question, then for you on that excellent thought, because
I completely agree with you wholeheartedly, David. Everybody's wondering what
justice really looks like. It's a philosophical question. Maybe he'll
spend the rest of his life in prison. Ag Bondi says,
he will never be a free man again. That's a
good first step. Maybe he'll even get the death penalty.
I don't know, though. I mean, this family, they've lost

(30:40):
a friend, a daughter, as maybe a sister forever twenty
three years old, and you're just gone, that's it. One
day you're here, the next day you're not. Horrific circumstances.
This animal should never have been walking around the streets
or been on that train, and yet he was. So
this is about accountability. It's about transparency into this very
flawed system we have here, and then real justice. For you, David,

(31:04):
what do you think real justice for a situation like
this looks like?

Speaker 5 (31:08):
You know?

Speaker 8 (31:09):
That is such a hard question to answer, because justice
is different for different people. A lot of times, in
these situations where there's a victim, and it's weird to see,
but I've seen it before, the victims want to forgive
the perpetrator. It's almost like their way of getting closure.
I mean, a lot of us sit here on the
sideline and we're like, man, I want to see this
person in the electric chair, hang them stone and the death.

Speaker 7 (31:32):
You know, let's we want justice.

Speaker 8 (31:34):
But a lot of times for the victims and the
victims' families, they want closure, and a lot of times, unfortunately,
you know, not in the cases where they're just pure
evil people. This dude does have mental health problems and
we can't deny that. I'm not saying it justifies what
he did, but the death penalty is a serious penalty,
and look for people who commit crimes on children, I

(31:55):
can't think of a better crime besides a death penalty.
I think that's the only choice, and I think we
should just do it quickly in a very public way.

Speaker 7 (32:00):
But in cases like this, where.

Speaker 8 (32:01):
Insane people do insane things with cases of murder, whereas
thisn't premeditated, this is just an insane person doing an
insane thing to an innocent person, is the death penalty
is that justice?

Speaker 7 (32:14):
Now? I don't think you.

Speaker 8 (32:14):
Should ever see the light of day, and I do
think we should look at what happened in this situation
and how can we prevent it from happening again. I
think we need to take psychotic homeless people off the street.
We need to end the policies that allow for these
people to roam free and terrorize innocent Americans. We need
to look at how these situations keep occurring, and we
need to look at what federal support some of these

(32:35):
states can receive in order to fix this.

Speaker 7 (32:37):
But man, I don't know. I don't know what justice
looks like.

Speaker 8 (32:40):
It's an individual thing, and I guess that's for the
family to decide.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
No, I appreciate that, And on that note, I'll just say, look,
I'm just frustrated. I'm sick and tired of this, and
I want to stop this from ever happening again. And
I am praying for this whole community, for her family.
It's a word like heartbreaking. Just isn't strong enough. It
really is not. But it's the best I have right now.
So David, I want to say thank you for your
insight into this at your time today.

Speaker 7 (33:03):
Yeah, thanks for having on again. It's always a lot of.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Fun coming up next. The Commission to Make America Healthy
Again just released its second report on children's health, spawning
a wide range of interesting reactions from critics, and fans
of the movement. More details about that after the break.

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Speaker 1 (33:38):
Today.

Speaker 9 (33:44):
We have the most business friendly president probably in the history.
There's never been a president in my lifetime that is
more willing to challenge businesses when they overreach, that was
more fearless about challenging entrenched interests in our society. And

(34:05):
so many times I've had discussions with them about a
certain injury or illness and heals and how unpopular it
will be if we talk about this illusions which heard
hurt certain businesses, and he said, I don't care. He says,
I don't care. This as children, we need to save
the children.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
We need to save the children. What a powerful statement
to make and a profoundly true one, and that coming
from Health Secretary R. FK. Junior. And it comes alongside
the release of the Make America Healthy against Commission second report.
Now The Long Way To Report highlights the alarming surgeon
chronic illnesses among American children and directly attributes it to

(34:48):
and rising rates of obesity, diabetes, autism, and HD or
ADHD to process foods, over prescribe medications and even vaccines,
urging immediate action to safeguard the next generation and with
a new focus on restoring nutritional integrity. The report also
advocates for some big changes, including the reinstatement of full

(35:10):
fat milk and school cafeterias as an alternative to low
fat options. It also calls for a formal definition of
ultra processed food and recommends that restrictions be placed on
synthetic food dyes that may contribute to developmental issues. But
it doesn't stop there either. The Commission also ramps up
the pressure on the core causes of America's health crisis

(35:33):
by proposing heightened federal oversight on marketing practices by both
big food and big pharma, including limits on direct to
consumer prescription drug ads, especially those that target children via
social media. Additionally, it takes aim at the promotion of
unhealthy foods that exploit young Americans. And then, on top

(35:54):
of it all, the report also recommends collaboration between the
Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of
Agriculture to guide restaurants toward nutritious age appropriate menu options,
something which we can all agree is desperately needed if
we really want to be healthier. So from there, the
report specifically turns up the pressure on big pharma even more,

(36:16):
calling for more investigations into the safety of vaccines and
vaccine related injuries. In fact, Secretary Kennedy even spoke about
this point during a meeting about the report on Tuesday.

Speaker 9 (36:27):
We are recasting the entire program so that vagazine injuries
will be reported, they will be studied, and that individuals
who them will not be denied or marginalized, or vilified
or gaslighted. It will be welcome, and we will learn

(36:49):
everything that we can about them so that we can
improve the safety of these products.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Wow. But here's the thing about challenging the status quo.
Any move that does so comes with criticism, and that
includes this report. On one hand, some people are criticizing
it for a perceived lack of scientific rigor, such as
the Center for Science and the Public Interest, which argues
that it neglects substances that are known to contribute to

(37:13):
chronic health issues. That includes things like alcohol and tobacco.
But on the other hand, some people have expressed disappointment
because they believe the report doesn't go far enough to
hold big pharma and big food accountable for their role
in this equation. Now, whether or not those claims are
actually fair is entirely subjective. But here to help us

(37:34):
sort through them all is our next guest. So here
with his thoughts is a former Republican Arizona Congressman JD. Hayworth. JD.
Thank you for joining me, Sir Riley.

Speaker 10 (37:45):
I have to tell you, of every host in the
realm of news talk television, you have been the most.
You have been the watchdog on this issue. This is
now our fourth appearance together, and every time we get
together we see decisive action from President Trump, and it

(38:09):
happened yesterday. In this memorandum, part of what you've been
talking about, I just want to read a portion of
it concerning direct to consumer advertising, commonly over television but
also in social media. These advertisements can mislead the public
about the risks and benefits, encourage medications over lifestyle changes, inappropriately,

(38:34):
intervene in the physician patient relationship, and advantage expensive drugs
over cheap generics. Now to that point about the doctor
patient relationship, understand, you and I have talked about this before.
On average, American viewers see about nine minutes of pharmaceutical

(38:58):
advertising every day. Wow, that equates to sixteen days a year.
We don't spend that much time with our primary care physicians,
even when we need acute care. There may be some
surgical procedures that require a long period of time. But
you see where there has been an intervention by electronic media,

(39:23):
by social media, and there's also been a change in
the advertising. As the President points out in this memo,
back in nineteen sixty two, Congress empowered the FDA, the
Food and Drug Administration, to monitor pharmaceutical advertising, but over

(39:45):
the years the standards have eroded. What the President is
saying is the advertising is not necessarily eliminated, but there
must be full transparency. And again, Riley, as you and
I have talked of out before, despite all the talk
of polarization within the body politic, in a poll conducted

(40:09):
for the Pharmaceutical Reform Alliance earlier this summer, two thirds
of Americans, regardless of party label or political philosophy, say
this kind of advertising has to be rained in.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yes, completely, by the way, to your point there, we're
one of the few countries on Earth, maybe only two,
that allowed Big Pharma to advertise on television. I just
want everybody to know that because it's very suspicious to me,
and it certainly explains a lot. But then to follow
up on that with you, JD as Well, I'm looking
this week and in recent weeks and seeing this really

(40:44):
hostile treatment that RFK Junior is getting Secretary Kennedy. They
treat him with nothing but contempt and hostility. I want
to know what the real motive is behind that. Is
this really about science? Is about politics? Is it ideological?
What do you make of the fierce opposition that he's
facing from these entrenched interests in Washington.

Speaker 10 (41:04):
Well, the simple way to explain it, Riley and I
really don't want to engage in personalities, But you ask
me an honest question, I'll give you an honest answer.
This comes from the realm of political science. That's what's
going on. Some partisans from mister Kennedy's traditional home within
the Democrat Party are angry at him, and so we'll

(41:27):
have that. But to your broader point earlier in your
commentary leading up to our interview, you will never please everybody,
even in the most tranquil of situations. What Secretary Kennedy,
but really what President Trump is moving forward with here
is action the American people are demanding. You know, I

(41:52):
think back about this in terms of history, you can't
spell Trump without tr Like the other New York Patrician
or to the manner born Theodore Roosevelt, there was energy
in the executive and we are seeing this from President
Trump moving forward despite all the roar of the grease paint,

(42:12):
the smell of the crowd, moving forward in a non partisan,
common sensical way. In fact, when you hear from the
FDA's new commissioner, Marty McCarey, he says, look, the major
companies what you and I call big pharma, are spending
twenty to twenty five billion a year on advertising. Party

(42:36):
check that twenty to twenty five percent of the money
they have on advertising. How much better would it be
if they spend it on lowering prices for Americans? Because again,
on average, we pay three times what the rest of
the developed world is paying for prescription drugs. Again, the goal,

(42:57):
it's not some sort of campaign slogan, to truly put
America and Americans first, because right now big Pharma has
Americans bringing up the rear Americans last if you will.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yeah, well said, and look, I completely agree with that.
A lot of people they see Maha, they think it's cheap,
they think it's all talk. Look, I sincerely believe it
when Secretary Kennedy months and months ago he said that
for every single day of his life, for nineteen years
or so, he prayed for God to put him into
a position where he could truly change the course of

(43:31):
health in this country, where he could try to make
an earnest effort to solve the chronic illness epidemic in America.
And now here he is in the White House doing
just that. I want people to understand how significant that is.
Millions and millions of Americans just fighting for their lives
with one or more chronic illnesses, including children. That's not okay,

(43:52):
and it shouldn't even be political or partisan. And so
I am right behind this. It's why we talk about
it so much on the show. And as we wrap
up here, j I look very much forward to having
you back on at some point soon to resume this conversation.
Because your health is your wealth, and if you don't
have that, you have nothing. So I'm firmly behind this
movement with everything I've got and I appreciate your insight

(44:12):
and your passionate about it too.

Speaker 10 (44:13):
Jd Riley, I appreciate the time. Again. Those watching our
conversation can find out more at Pharma Reformalliance dot com.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Okay, thank you again for being here today, Thank you, sir.
Coming up next, is Really forces launch a major strike
in Doha, the capital city of Katar. As they also
warn residents of Gaza City to evacuate ahead of an
expanded ground assault. So what does this mean and what
is the White House's position on it? O An's chief
White House correspondent will join us next to discuss, So

(44:45):
stay tuned for more.

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(45:07):
com Today.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Welcome back to the Real Story. Today's next segment brings
us to a huge development from the heart of the
Middle East, that's where Israeli forces recently launched a precision
strike and the heart of Doha, the capital city of Qatar.
Targeting the political headquarters of the terrorist organization Hamas, which
has been responsible for significant bloodshed in the region to

(45:35):
say the least. Now, this operation, carried out with exacting
intelligence and munitions, reportedly eliminated five lower level Hamas operatives,
including the son of a top Gaza leader and three bodyguards,
although none of the organization's top leaders were killed. Israeli
officials also alerted US officials about the strike ahead of time.

(45:56):
It Israelly Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahoo took sole credit for
it in public, saying his government takes full responsibility. The
Trump administration then expressed its concerns about this move, however,
and President Trump, who spoke to top breaking officials in
both countries after it was over, expressed his own concerns
with the move, describing it as an unfortunate incident, and

(46:21):
to his point, the ramifications of the situation ripple far
beyond Qatar's borders, threatening to derail fragile ceasefire negotiations between
Israel and Hamas after nearly twenty three months of war
and heightened tensions, especially as Israel also prepares for a
major ground offensive in Gaza. Israel has even warned residents

(46:41):
of Gaza City to evacuate ahead of their planned operations,
putting the whole region on edge. Now, Qatar, a key
US ally hosting thousands of American troops and playing a
pivotal role in ongoing hostage talks, questions the viability of
its mediation role, potentially straining the Abraham Accords and dimming

(47:02):
hopes for Saudi normalization. Whether or not the strike also
will fracture our nation's alliances then is unclear. However, this
whole situation brings us to some very important questions. Firstly,
what happens next and secondly, what is the path to
piece in the Middle East look like? From here?

Speaker 10 (47:23):
Now?

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Here with his thoughts and insight is Daniel Baldwin, Owayn's
chief White House correspondent. Daniel, thank you for being here.

Speaker 7 (47:30):
Sir, that he's an honor. Riley, thank you, and it's.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
An honor to have you, of course, especially talking about
a major development like this one. There's a big debate
about it online and the significance of it as well
of course as the implications and ramifications, and there's also
some debate about the White House's official position. So I
wanted to have you on the show to clarify President
Trump's official stance on this strike in Qatar.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
Well, I think what I would tell you Riley is
that he sort of walking a bit of a tight
rope on the issue, right, And when you read out
his specific statement that he posted on truth social following
the strikes, it was kind of well, on the one hand,
it's good, but on the one hand, it's also bad,
bad because they hit Dohab, good because they killed Hamas officials.
So it's sort of like this murky gray area that

(48:19):
the White House was working with. And I thought the
Vice President's comments on One American News last night on
the exclusively the mac Gates Show, We're fascinating as well.
He said that the President wasn't happy and it doesn't
serve Israel or the US's interest, but there was a
small silver lining in that it eliminated some senior Hamas officials.
So that would kind of tell you that the President

(48:41):
is viewing it more so from a negative perspective than
it is a positive one, of course, But I do
think it's important to highlight a specific thing, right. Israeli
Prime Minister benjaminint Yaho said that the strike was in
retaliation for a deadly shooting at a Jerusalem bus stop Monday.
Hamas said it failed to kill some of their top
level leadership, but it did assassinate five lower level members

(49:03):
and response Cutter, of course, has suspended its mediation role
in ceasefire talks over Gaza. Its Prime minister called the
attack an act of state terrorism. It just kind of
begs the question, Riley, where is the off ramp here?

Speaker 7 (49:19):
Right?

Speaker 5 (49:19):
Is there light at the end of the tunnel? And
that's a question I think the White House is sort
of asking itself at this point in time as we
stand here today.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Oh absolutely, and I think a lot of us are
wondering the exact same thing as well, as you know
what this means for ongoing hostage talks seasfire negotiations. This
is a very delicate situation, and so I appreciate President
Trump's methodical, calculated approach to it. Of course, only time
will tell what happens from here. But Daniel, thank you
for being here today and clarifying the White House's official
stance on this strike.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
Thanks Riley.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Coming up next, Stay tuned because we have more for
you right after the break.

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