September 5, 2025 • 51 mins
With Congress back in session this week, following a summer recess, the clock to avoid a government shutdown is ticking.
Guests:
Rep. Dusty Johnson | U.S. Representative (R), South Dakota's At-large Congressional District
Tom Norton | Afghan War Veteran, U.S. Army (Ret.)
Audra Morgan | Independent Investigative Journalist
Joe Exotic | The Tiger King
Guests:
Rep. Dusty Johnson | U.S. Representative (R), South Dakota's At-large Congressional District
Tom Norton | Afghan War Veteran, U.S. Army (Ret.)
Audra Morgan | Independent Investigative Journalist
Joe Exotic | The Tiger King
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to the real story. I'm your host, Riley Lewis.
Thank you for joining us. If you can't describe what
you are doing as a process, you don't know what
you're doing. These are some of the wisest words to
ever be spoken, and they are attributed to a man
named W. Edwards Deming born in Sioux City, Iowa, on
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October fourteenth, nineteen hundred. Deming was an American author, engineer,
and management consultant who is best known for his pioneering
work in quality management and statistical process control. He held
degrees in electrical engineering from the University of Wyoming, mathematical
physics from the University of Colorado, and a PhD in
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mathematical physics from Yale, and he played a pivotal role
in accelerating Japan's industrial revival following World War Two. Deming
also spent years working for the US Department of Agriculture
and the Census Bureau before making his big break in
Japan in nineteen fifty, when Japanese business leaders brought him
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to their country to teach executives and engineers alike about
his methods. But on top of it all, he consulted
for some of the biggest companies known to man, including Ford, Sony, Toyota, Xerox,
and Procter and Gamble throughout his life, but Deming, above
all else was world famous for his fourteen key principles
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of successful management. Each one was wiser and more profound
than the previous one, and of them all, the fifth
one stands out as a shiny example of what the
US government desperately needs to incorporate to improve constantly and forever.
We all know there's enough dysfunction in the US government
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to make one's head spin, and one example of this
dysfunction is the national debt, standing at more than thirty
seven trillion dollars as we speak. The national debt continues
to grow every single year, and very few people in
Washington seem to be seriously interested in addressing this problem.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Moreover, as the debt.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Grows minute by minute, hour by hour, and day by day,
so does the risk of financial crisis. Bringing us all
to this urgent question at the core of the matter,
what happens off the investors who own our country's debt
lose all confidence in our ability to pay them back,
Then what will they just stop buying our debt altogether?
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And if that happens, then what happens next, Say, does
the entire country just plunge into financial catastrophe or does
something else happen? Only time will really tell. However, now
that Congress has finally reconvened from summer recess, returning to
work on Monday from a leisurely break, they have some
unfinished business to address, including a major financial issue to
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address that dovetails with the national debt problem, that being
a funding deadline to keep the government open and avert
a shutdown. Now, the deadline to avoid a shutdown that
could furlow thousands of federal workers is September thirtieth, so
there's less than one month on the clock. And now
the stage is set for a big brawl over the
next spending package. As Republicans narrowly control both chambers of
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Congress with a razor thin majority of just seven seats
in the House and only six in the Senate, Republicans
will need seven Democrat votes in the upper chamber to
push through one point eight trillion dollars in discretionary spending
with a massive seven trillion dollar federal budget. But now
this is where partisan theatrics enter the picture. See, while
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Republicans have already taken bold steps to reduce government spending,
slashing nine billion dollars from wasteful foreign aid and biased
public broadcasting at President Trump's direction, Democrats, on the other hand,
are digging in their heels, accusing the Trump administration of
an all out war on congressional authority and refusing to
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go along with these common sense cuts that rain in
our ballooning debt, which obviously checks out. But here's the
real kicker in this situation. This development isn't just about
dollars and cents. It represents a much bigger and more
important battle for America's priorities. So at this point, the
government goes from one omnibus spending bill to another, stuck
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in this reckless and unsustainable cycle of printing and spending
and taxation without any real strategy for getting back to equilibrium.
So the lesson here is very clear. This is a
pivotal moment for Washington, and things need to change. This
could be a moment where they choose to start living
within their means, one where they can take concrete action
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to change their ways, and one where lawmakers can finally
put a stop to the inefficiency and waste that is
destroying the dollar's value, fueling inflation, and jeopardizing the well
being of every American, regardless of politics. So, simply put,
it's a make or break moment for the country. But
with so much at stake, opportunistic politicians are already making
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this moment about themselves, shamelessly using the funding fight as
leverage to advance their own sinister agenda. And that brings
us right back to square one. So what exactly will
happen next? Here with his thoughts and answers to that
question is Dusty Johnson, the congressman for South Dakota's at
large district.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Congressman.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Thank you for being here, Thanks for having me. Radley.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I do have to tell you, though, I got to
push back in a few ways. I mean the idea
that it's just been business as usual in Washington and
then nobody cares about the debt.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Riley, I'm sorry, you're wrong.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I've been in this Republican House in the last few years.
I mean the Fiscal Responsibility Act. This, even before a
Trump got an office, that was the largest ever cut
and discretionary spending was more than two trillion dollars over
the next few years, and then, of course, as you
made reference to, finally we got our act together on
mandatory spending cutting one point seven trillion dollars with the
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Working Families.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Tax Cuts Act.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
And then I don't know who had our leisurely August recess.
I mean, listen, remote working exists. I mean we were still.
I was talking every single day to the Speaker's team,
to my colleagues. I spent time with EPA administrator Lee
Zelden Brook Rollins was scheduled to come to South Dakota.
I mean, there has been real work going on because,
as you alluded to Riley, there is important There are
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important decisions we have got to make in the next
few weeks.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I completely agree with that, and your point is well taken.
By the way.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
What I mean to say, and what I did say
very clearly, is that very few people in Washington and
the eyes of the average Americans seem to be taking
it seriously. Because elections come and go. We have new
people that we sent to Congress all the time, but
the problem doesn't seem to be addressed to any meaningful,
big picture way because the debt is still ballooning. So
with all due respects, sir, and I do respect everything
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that you're doing. To the average American, it seems like
business as usual because despite what we talk about every
single day, the debt problem keeps getting worse and worse.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
And I hear you, Riley, But that's why I mean
when we use this rhetoric like nothing ever changes and
nothing's gotten better. Of course, the American people decide to
walk away from the problem, of course they get downhearted.
The reality is, no Congress in two hundred and fifty
years has made bigger spending reductions than this Republican House
has in the last few years, both on the discretionary
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and mandatory side.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Now have we solved the problem yet?
Speaker 5 (07:38):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Is there a lot more we have to do? Yes?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Do we need to have righteous indignation to continue this
rush forward toward a better, more limited conservative government. Yes,
But we make it seem like there hasn't been any progress.
We are going to lose the base. They will assume
that none of this matters, And it very much matters.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Understood.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Okay, then in that spirit, let's talk about some of
the actions you would like to see moving forward for
this Republican Congress.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Well, I know it's not as important as us dealing
with the looming shutdown. I assume you and I will
get to that in a minute. That I'm really pushing
for us to get this Trust in Congress Act on
the floor. This would prohibit individual members from buying or
selling stocks. It looks lousy when members make a big
stock trade on Thursday only to make a big vote
on Friday. We need to make it just impermissible illegal
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for members of Congress to buy or sell stocks. I
have not bought or sold one stock while I've been
in Congress. It is easy for members of Congress to
do their retirement investing in things like broad based mutual
funds where they are betting on the American economy as
a whole. We need to pass the Trust Act, and
I think we got a pretty good shot here in
the next couple weeks.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
So that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
So does that lead you to believe then that there's
a lot of support among your colleagues for that legislation.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Our biggest and p him a few years ago was
that Speaker Pelosi was vehemently opposed to the Trust in
Congress Act, and Mike Johnson is far more open to this.
And we've had a number of conversations with him. You know,
I had breakfast this morning with some of the folks
who are leaders on this bill, along with myself, and
we feel a lot better about our prospects for moving
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this forward.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And so what is the next step in that process?
How close are we to actually getting this passed well?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
And this is Democrats or Republicans alike are coming together
to push this now.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
The opposition is also bipartisan.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
There are some folks who just think this is a
terrible erosion of their rights. It's their money, they earned
it in their twenties and thirties and forties. If they
want to buy a share of Apple, they should be
able to buy a share of Apple. I agree with
them that this is an erosion of their rights. But
I just think if you're going to run for Congress,
you need to know that you are not going to
be able to play the market in a way that
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is impacted by the big votes you're casting. I mean,
we don't let baseball players been on baseball games because
we know that their actions have too big an impact
on the outcome. Members of Congress have a big, big
impact on the outcome of these regulatory regimes. We should
not allow anybody to buy and sell these stocks. And
so the next step is to continue to build that coalition,
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continue to put pressure on the Leader and the Speaker
who are open minded, but just tell them this has
got to be a priority and we can do this
at the same time we're dealing with the spending battles
here September thirty.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Okay, understood.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
But on that note, since you brought it up as
well as Congressman, let's talk about the shutdown. What are
your thoughts about that situation as it stands.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Well, let's start at the end, which is where do
we want to end up. We do not want to
be spending billions more. We are thirty eight trillion dollars
in debt. Republicans have been good, not perfect, but good
about cuts to both discretionary and mandatory spending. But we
need to be able to hold the line. This is
an opportunity for us to pass a spending pack that
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holds spending levels flat. Now, there would be some anomalies.
There are some areas in defense where we may need
to spend a little bit more money. There may be
some areas on the border where we need to spend
a little bit more money. But we need to bend
these cost curves in the right direction, and so we
need to engage in whatever tactics will get us toward
flat spending levels. That is why among the most conservative
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members of the House, a continuing resolution, which used to
be a swear word among conservatives but now is gaining
steam because continuing resolutions hold spending levels flat. It may
be that a one year continuing resolution is the best
bet we have to be able to hold spending levels
at last year's levels and the year before.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
That's the levels understood, and now that's spending problem, or
the spending rate, the rate at which we're burning through
cash right now. For a lot of Americans, the bottom
line is that it contributes to inflation. They look at taxes,
they look at inflation. It's making it increasingly more difficult
to save money, to generate value to pass on to
their future generations. So what would you say, congressmen, to
Americans right now who are very sincerely worried about inflation
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but also want to avoid a government shutdown?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah, I mean, clearly, high terraces as part of a
long standing part of the economic landscape would be inflationary.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
We all understand what the President's trying to do.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
He's trying to use the threat of teriffs to be
able to get better trading deals with our partners so
that we can get more American goods get sold, bringing
more cash into this country that would make Americans more prosperous.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Now, you're right, Riley.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
On the other hand, us borrowing more money from the
Chinese and injecting that money into the economy, rather than
making us more prosperous, it actually makes us less prosperous.
Inflation is too many dollars chasing too few goods. With
more trade, we get more American goods. With more borrowing,
we get more cash. And so right now where we're at,
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we're looking at an inflationary concerns on both.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Halves of that equation.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Understood.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Okay, Now to your point there as well, Congressman, I
know this is a very complicated issue, and I'm just
here on the sidelines as a concerned American. So I
do want to say thank you very much for your time,
and I do see the effort that this Congress is
putting into solving these problems. But I also understand that
Americans are very frustrated and they're hoping that we can
take as much aggressive action as possible to minimize the
problem as quickly as possible. But it's very complicated and
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it's time consuming, and there's a lot of people in
Washington that you have to work with, so it's not
always easy to solve these ginormous problems. So everybody understands
that it's complicated and people are just concerned. So I
want to end by saying thank you for your time
and your efforts in Washington.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I appreciate it, sir.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Well, and thank you because you educate so many Americans
every single day about what our government is actually up to.
We need more passionate and informed Americans. Thanks for making
sure that's the case.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I appreciate that very much.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Coming up next, the Chinese Communist Party just held its
biggest military flex in decades to mark the anniversary of
World War Two's end, and some unexpected guests were in attendance.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
More details after the break.
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Speaker 1 (14:33):
Welcome back to the real story. Today's next topic brings
us to Beijing. That's where the Chinese Communist Party just
flects its military muscle and a massive parade marking the
eighty anniversary of World War two's end. China's leader, not President,
but Leader Jijiping, who's also the chairman of their Central
Military Commission, kick things off with a speech that sounded
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like a veiled threat wrapped and talk of peace, and
the ceremony itself began with an eighty gun sol echoing
through Tieneman Square, followed then by their national anthem, a
tune born from resistance against Japanese invaders in the nineteen thirties.
She wrote in a black limousine, miked up and reviewing
the troops who shouted back slogans like we serve the
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people in perfect unison, and he shook hands with World
War II veterans, some of whom were one hundred years old,
all while giving a nod to the foreign help his
country received in defeating Japan, without ever naming America. Interesting
now standing before rows of lockstep troops and gleaming missiles.
She also declared that humanity must choose between dialogue and confrontation,
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while boasting that the Chinese people are not afraid of
violence and are ready to lead the world in that spirit.
Fighter jets also screamed overhead as never before seen. Hardware
rolled down the streets, all under the watchful eyes of
Russian President Vladimir Putin and North Korea's Kim John Un.
But as the parade unfolded, with wires belting out songs
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like Defend the Yellow River and with crowds waving red flags,
President Trump called g out for refusing to recognize America's
efforts and liberating them from Japanese forces. He took a
truth social writing this, The big question to be answered
is whether or not President G of China will mention
the massive amount of support and blood that the United
States of America gave to China in order to help
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it to secure its freedom from a very unfriendly foreign invader.
Many Americans died in China's quest for victory and glory.
I hope that they are rightfully honored and remembered for
their bravery and sacrifice. May President G and the wonderful
people of China have a great and lasting day of celebration.
Please give my warmest regards to Vladimir Putin and Kim
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Jong Un, as you conspire against the United States of
America President Donald J.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Trump.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Very interesting, But setting that aside for a moment, this
spectacle isn't just pomp and circumstance. It's a stark reminder
of Jiji Mping's ambitions, using World War II memories to
rally domestic support for the CCP while also projecting strength
to challenge our American led order. Siji talked piece but
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actions speak louder, and as Beijing pushes its community with
a shared future narrative, we must stay vigilant. Our freedom
depends upon recognizing these threats head on, not burying our
heads in the sand.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
And to that point, this.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Parade followed a trilateral meeting between Xijiping, Putin and Kim
Jong Un in Beijing. They also met at the Great
Hall of People and at Ji's personal residence, where they
reportedly discussed the prospect of expanding their economic and military ties.
What else was discussed is unknown. However, the meeting itself
has raised some urgent questions, and now as we probe
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further into the matter, one has to wonder, is this
summit just a photo op or a calculated challenge to
American leadership. It's also time to consider the implications of
this growing alliance between these leaders, why it has formed,
and what exactly it means for America's interests at home
and abroad. Now here with his answers to those questions
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is Tom Norton, Afghanistan war veteran, Michigan State Senate candidate
and chairman of the America Pack. Tom, thank you for
being here.
Speaker 8 (18:20):
Thanks for having me out there.
Speaker 9 (18:21):
Boss.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
So I have a lot of questions, Let's start with
this one. What do you make of it to see
Kim Jong un in public and with Putin and Ji
of all people.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
I think it's a show of force because Russia has
been getting their butt kicked by the Ukrainians. I mean,
you look at the size of Russia, the military might,
all the technology they claim to have, and they roll
into Ukraine, which has Russian equipment from the nineteen eighties
and they're stalled with minimal amount of Western support in
all reality, and it shows how weak their military truly is. So,
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I mean, this is Russia basically finally betting the need
to z and saying you're going to be the leader
of this alliance because we need you to continue supplying
us the gears, the military equipment and the different parts.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
And North Korea is just a puppet.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
So they're going to show up whenever Ze says show up.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
So you think this is really just a matter of
posturing then and nothing more.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
Well, you look at their equipment at the end of
the day, China unveiled the equipment that looks new, but
China's also been known in the past to decorate equipment
and restamp equipment with older technology. Russia did the same
exact thing with their ten ninety tanks when they rolled
them into Ukraine. They had the ten ninety m and
it was stapled out with this reactive armor, but it
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was still chewed apart by Western equipment left over from
the nineties that we sent to Ukraine, and China essentially
has the same thing. I mean, China's spending more time
trying to build its nave again, which is a copycat
of old Russian equipment. The Viking is their first aircraft carrier,
which was a mothballed, decrepit Russian aircraft carrier that's set
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rusting for twenty years, So they're trying show some strength
as strength and power, because Donald Trump's America First policies
have truly reasserted.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
The United States.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
And everybody tries to say that they're concerned about the West,
but this is a good thing for the West. The
America First police seates because it's making Europe start to
stand on their own two feet. So these three leaders
have to unite together because in all reality, a strong Europe,
a strong America actually show threatens them and their actual
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regimes and the oppression of their own people much much
more than anything else Donald Trump has possibly done globally.
I mean, this is a true stamp of a president
that's shown peace through strength. It's brought back Ronald Reagan's
policy of peace through strength, and Donald Trump is executing
it absolutely beautifully. I don't think any other modern president
since Reagan has been able to address this and do
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this in this fashion.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Whereas scares of.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
Chinese or Russians and the North Koreans, because you have
to realize even Japan's rebuilding their military to offset China,
South Korea, Taiwan, all reality, this eightieth celebration, I'm going
to tick off the Chinese Communist Party here a little bit,
But the true government of the Republic of China is Taiwan.
They are the ones that defeated the Japanese and.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
The United States government.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
If Truman, who was a Democrat, wasn't so weak, we
would have backed the true government of China, and we
wouldn't have these communists right now at pressing or killing it.
They killed over fifty million of their own people.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
That's what the Democrats again showed weakness.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
No, Tom, that's extremely interesting. Thank you for saying that.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
My final question for you today, you look at Jijiping
putin Kim Jong un. Some foreign policy analysts call this
the axis of upheaval, call it whatever you want. It
is seemingly an alliance. And the only question I have
then is does this alliance pose any threat whatsoever to
America's dominance on the world stage.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
As long as we maintain the America First policies and
Donald Trump continues to bring factories back where we can
be the arsenal of democracy again like we weren't during
World War Two, like we were all the way up
through Bill Clinton's NAFTA agreement, and apply that pressure and
continue to work with countries like India who are on
our side. China isn't a thread. At the end of
the day, India can't match China for manpower, and a
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nation like ours with our type of industrial strength can
easily match them by supplying our allies globally in the
amentable war.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Excellent analysis today, Tom, I appreciate it very much. Coming
up next, how powerful is the power of protest? Well,
Today's next guest is here to answer that question, following
a major demonstration in southern California over concerns about locker
room safety recently.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
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Speaker 1 (23:01):
Welcome back to the Real Story. Tuesday, in Temecula, California,
dozens of girls at the James L. DA Middle School,
joined by supportive boys and outraged parents, staged a defiant
walkout from pe class, protesting the Temecula Valley Unified School
District's failure to remove a biological mail from their locker room,
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where he's been changing and shattering their sense of privacy, security,
and frankly innocence, echoing swimmer Riley gains his twenty twenty
two nightmare forced to undress next to transgender athlete Leah
Thomas at the NCAA Championships. Feeling violated and abandoned by
spineless officials, these Temecula girls are drawing a line against
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the same exact betrayal, refusing to normalize the absurd.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
The protest, fueled by flyers and social media from advocates
like Sophia Laurie of the California Family Council, erupted this
past Tuesday on the third day of school after district
counselors allegedly strong armed girls into the locker room, framing
their discomfort as the real issue. This, of course, follows
the tvusd's boards August twenty sixth vote of four to
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one to table proposed mental health into religious exemption forms
for unsafe girls, delaying any fix until at least the
next meeting on September ninth. Board voices like Sonja Shaw
then blasted Sacramento's Democrat pushed madness for creating and perpetuating
this mixed gender madness. Now that brings us to our
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next guest today. Recently, spoke with a governing school board
member in attendance at the walkout, where he made an
extremely valid and concerning point with regard to the gaslighting
of young women for having to sign a mental health
exemption form all because they don't want to change in
front of men. Take a listen.
Speaker 10 (24:53):
The big ruckus is is if a girl has to
sign a mental health exemption form because she doesn't feel
comfortable with possibly a boyd changing in front of her,
then it's we just call it the gas lighting policy
right away, because gender dysphoria is in the DSM five manuals,
and that is what this is. And to have a
girl sign a mental health exemption form which she doesn't
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have a mental health problem is just absolute craziness.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Only in the year twenty twenty five does a female
teenager have to sign a mental health exemption form just
to avoid changing in front of biological men. Their mental
health is perfectly intact. If anyone here needs their mental
health to be exempted, it's the biological men who think
it's somehow appropriate in any way, shape or form to
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change in front of biological women. But then again, welcome
to Gavin Newsom's California A nationwide. Of course, over twenty
states grapple with the transgender locker mandates, with lawsuits mounting.
But Temeculu's kids are proving the fight back starts with
the ones who are being most affected by these degenerate policies.
Our country's youth and many people are finally waking up
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and torching woke authoritarian political overreach with raw common sense,
basic dignity, and overall human decency. Now Here with her
thoughts and analysis is independent investigative journalist Oudra Morgan, who
was actually on the ground for the walkout into Mecula,
and she joins us, now.
Speaker 11 (26:18):
Thank you Riley for having me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
So I thought this issue was put to rest a
long time ago. I cannot believe the radical left is
fighting this fight. What is your perspective about that?
Speaker 11 (26:28):
Well, I think what.
Speaker 12 (26:29):
They're doing is trying to change behaviors of children. They're
very good at, you know, bringing things in incrementally and
you know, getting you to get used to it and
those things. But now they're at a place where they're
really trying to force it upon the children to you know,
be in a restroom changing with a male when they
don't want to be instead of actually, you know, they're
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sacrificing the group for the one, and that's what they
tend to be doing a lot, and it's very dangerous
the road that this leads down.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
It is, and the goalposts on this issue have moved
so quickly, going from at first tolerance, then to acceptance,
then to forced participation now too you have to celebrate
it and embrace it, or else you're bigot or or
there's something wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 12 (27:12):
Well, it's just crazy to think that young girls would
have to claim that they have a mental health issue
if they don't want to change and they're uncomfortable in
front of a male, instead of saying, maybe that person
needs to you know, have.
Speaker 11 (27:28):
Like I don't know.
Speaker 12 (27:29):
It's very it's very sad because they're taking girls and
they're saying they want everybody to feel safe, and it's like,
you're not making everybody feel safe. There's so many things
they could do, but when you want to change behaviors
and force things like a square pag into a round hole,
you have to de incentivize or incentivize, and right now
they're trying to force girls into feeling like they're going
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to be okay with that, which leads down a path
of going, well, is that dangerous? What if it's somewhere
else outside of school and a man comes into the
rest and because there has been rape, there has been
different things that have taken place when this is allowed.
So you know, instead of making sure, because don't use
the rhetoric of all people are safe, this makes everyone
safe because it does.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Not what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
The radical left in this country has made this issue
about safety and inclusion. I don't think it's about that
at all. Clearly it's not because they're inclusive up until
the point where you disagree with that.
Speaker 11 (28:26):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
So what do you think it's really about?
Speaker 12 (28:29):
Well, like I said, I think it's about changing behaviors.
I think it's a direct though.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Like what what's the deeper what need or issue do
they think they're really getting at you?
Speaker 12 (28:37):
Well, I think there's an attack on children, honestly, and
I believe that you have to get to the children
when they're young to change society as a whole. Right,
if you want to push something like this and have
everybody go along with it, you have to start when
the kids are young so that as they go along.
They're the ones pushing it as well, and not deny it,
not say I mean.
Speaker 11 (28:57):
Because they're changing language.
Speaker 12 (28:58):
I mean they're changing the death noistion of a woman,
saying that a man can be a woman, and I'm like,
and even saying that they feel that way, well, you'll
never feel like you will never feel like a woman
because you don't know what that's like. You could say it,
I could say I feel like a man, but I
would never know what that's like. And instead of asking
people to be okay with who they are, they're trying
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to change society in a way that you know, leads
to more division. It leads to less babies, right because
you're not going to be having children.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
So that's the point. I'm trying to get to see
them deeper. I think this is part of a bigger
depopulation problem. Yes, not just a war on children, but
or childhood innocence, but the West itself. I think this
is about the destruction of the entire Western world. Absolutely, morality,
the nuclear family unit, childhood innocence, all of it.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
What do you think about that theory?
Speaker 11 (29:50):
I think you're absolutely right.
Speaker 12 (29:51):
I mean they have to I mean they are planned
to is to destroy America. You have to do it
from within, with our own like we have to be
doing it, you know what I mean. No one's going
to come in and like bomb us like we do
other places. It has to happen with the people. And
in order to direct people, like I said, you have
to de incentivize and incentivize. And if you don't want
people to be around, what better way than to make
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sure nobody can have children if they're cutting off body
parts that would allow them to do that, yes, you know.
Speaker 11 (30:19):
And instead, like I'm saying.
Speaker 12 (30:20):
If if we were in a world that was about
making people feel good about themselves, you would be like,
you are beautiful the way you are.
Speaker 11 (30:27):
Love yourself completely.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
That's real affirmation, right, love yourself for who you are,
who God made you.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yes, Okay, So clearly there's a very small but really
vocal and radical group of people pushing this agenda. Let's
talk about the people who are fighting it. What did
you make or what did you think about this this,
you know, showing of support for people who are on
the other side of this, on the side of common
sense and decency.
Speaker 11 (30:50):
I thought it was great.
Speaker 12 (30:50):
I thought it was great to see young kids being
active and like standing up for something they know is wrong,
because again, they don't want us to do that, right,
they kind of retaliate if you do.
Speaker 11 (30:59):
And this is why.
Speaker 12 (31:00):
Things continue is because everybody's so afraid to say something.
They don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. But this isn't
about feelings. This is about our future and where we're headed,
and it's very scary to think about. And so it
was so encouraging to see kids offer solutions like not
just going this is bad, and they would all say too,
we're not trying to go against the trans student. It's
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not what it's about. But it's about making these girls
feel unsafe. So why don't we offer up options like
their own personal dressing room or bathroom or changing currents,
you know, partitions Like she was very I'm like, this
is fantastic. You should take that to the board of
trustees and tell them those things, because instead of making exemptions,
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you should be making policies to say, what's going.
Speaker 11 (31:45):
To make everyone feel safe? Having their own restroom not going?
Speaker 12 (31:48):
Well, they don't feel safe in this restroom, so we're
gonna put them over here and make them feel unsafe.
Speaker 11 (31:52):
That makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
You know, I have one last theory for you because
to the point, you're just so well made outra like,
there are very simple solutions that we could implement tomorrow
to fix this problem.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yes, and yet they don't get put into place.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I think that there's a lot of people who want
to make this an issue just to divide people in
part so they have a rallying cry to win elections.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yes, what do you think about that? There?
Speaker 11 (32:15):
I think you're right.
Speaker 12 (32:16):
I mean, anything they're doing is in order to push
something where you're going to get a lot of support
for this and then show that these people don't support.
So again, it divides the people, but it will allow
them to go. You know, if they're running and they're
running off of that kind of a ticket like gender
affirming care, you're going to get all of those people.
Speaker 11 (32:35):
But they don't understand they're being exploited. Do you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 12 (32:38):
It's like if they can understand that too, Like any
kind of facet or group, they always exploit them to
get some kind of benefit in the long run. And
if people saw that, then they wouldn't fall into the trap.
And you know, so it's interesting but it was very
encouraging to see kids do that. There was a counter
opposition on the other side. The police actually showed up
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and the mother of the trans students showed up to
give a hard time to some of the parents that
were there.
Speaker 11 (33:04):
Wow, and she's a substitute teacher real at that school.
Speaker 12 (33:07):
I was like, Wow, you came out to harass and
you know, I mean, and.
Speaker 11 (33:11):
Why not go?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
It's just very revealing.
Speaker 11 (33:13):
Yes, you know, he feels safe, but they don't and
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 12 (33:18):
How can you not like try and make an even
playing field for everybody completely.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
If this was really about a quality.
Speaker 11 (33:24):
Then wet it is not. It is never it's not.
Speaker 13 (33:28):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
But thank you then for exposing this stuff and for
all of your work as an investigative journalist. It's really
refreshing to see that in this world. So Audre, thank
you for being here.
Speaker 11 (33:36):
Thank you Riley.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
And coming up.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Next, Joe Exotic, otherwise known all over the world as
the Tiger King, rejoins the program to provide exclusive updates
about his clemency case, his team's recent talks with the
White House, and much much more. Coming up right after
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Welcome back to the Real Story.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Today's next segment brings us to an exclusive update from
Jobe Exotic, otherwise known around the world as the Tiger King.
So Joe joined us last week to discuss his ongoing
clemency case, which was filed to get him out of prison,
and he will soon join us to provide some updates
about his case following a recent meeting with White House officials. Now,
he's currently serving a twenty one year federal prison sentence
(34:43):
after being convicted in twenty nineteen for a wide range
offenses Joe will discuss with US today, including ones regarding
the Endangered Species Act and the Lacy Act for falsifying
certain records. He was sentenced to twenty two years in
prison originally in January of twenty two, but the sentence
was vacated in twenty twenty one, leaving to a resentencing
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of just twenty one years. Now he remains incarcerated, although
he's attempting to be released. The White House recently reopened
his clemency case, giving him a fighting chance, and he
joins us now to discuss the latest updates. So here
with those details is the Tiger King himself. Joe Exotic, Joe,
(35:25):
thank you for being here.
Speaker 9 (35:27):
Hey, I appreciate you having.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Me again absolutely So for those who don't know, we
had you on the show last week to discuss your
clemency case which has been reopened by the White House,
and I understand that you have some exclusive updates for
us about it. So what can you tell us?
Speaker 13 (35:42):
Joe?
Speaker 6 (35:43):
Oh? Well, dam the Way House, the US Partner Attorney's
office contact with my lawyers Wednesday before lads and let
him know that my case was being investigated and looked
at it.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
And then my counselor.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
Called me in less than and told me that he
showed me an email.
Speaker 9 (36:03):
That he had gotten from the US Department Attorney's.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Office and then he had to respond, you know, with
with what I've been doing in prisonment, which is I
just finished my twenty first class this morning. As a
matter of fact, in the last six months, so I've
completed twenty six classes in six months.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
My points are.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Very low security five years to the door anyway, and
that I've never disrespected any of the staff and I've
been a good boy.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
So we're we're praying.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
We've got people all over the world praying that that
President Trump.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Will will prove this okay understood.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
So as that stands right now, what is the next
step in the process for you?
Speaker 6 (36:46):
Actually, my lawyers are going to be going to the
White House sometime after the eleventh of this month.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
To I guess they got a meeting set.
Speaker 9 (36:56):
Up or something.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
But actually it's just a waiting game right now. There's
there's nothing else I can do. We've we've submitted, you know,
the application, We've submitted all the evidence. We've submitted the
videos and the affidavits of everybody admitted to perjury. And
you know, the the good thing that might come out
of this is we've submitted all of the evidence that
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we've gotten off of all of the government witnesses cell phones,
and I'm talking seven one hundred phone recordings and videos
of the one federal agent and the US prosecutor in
Oklahoma City telling them how.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
To fabricate evidence and life. So I'm praying that that the.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
Department of Justice will look into this too, so they
don't do this to anybody.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Else, really, So what kind of recourse would you see
from the Department of Justice? What is it that you're
hoping that from them?
Speaker 6 (37:48):
You know, I think that you know, if if you
can get on world television and admit to perjury and
destroying a man's life and putting him in prison first
seven plus years, you know, uh and taking away as
an entire livelihood, and you know, the hitman on season
two of Tiger King also gave them a complete rundown
(38:10):
of how they were planning on killing me if getting
me arrested didn't work.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
So I would like to.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
See, you know, somebody answer to some of this, you know,
conspiracy to commit murder or perjury.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
But the evidence that we have.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
Is overwhelming of the crimes that the government witnesses were
committing while the government was that the federal agent was.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
Protected them in order to get them to.
Speaker 9 (38:37):
Lie to put me in prison.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
And Ronnie we're talking.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
There's there's tape recordings there of them.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Taping each other about admitting the rape and six trafficking
and bank fraud and identity It's crazy, It really is
crazy that these people are still out there running around
doing this to people and I'm in here after they
all admitted to throughout world television. And the only reason
that they admitted to perjuring in and over their phones
(39:06):
is after they got me put in prison.
Speaker 9 (39:09):
You know, the USDA and the FEDS.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
The Federal Wildlife Service turned on them and took their
animals away.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
So they thought they were.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
Going to get some payback, and they turned over all
their cell phones and hard drives to my lawyers. But
they thought they deleted everything that incriminated them, But my
lawyers recovered seven hundred recordings off the back of their phones.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
Yeah, all of it is on my website.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
It's all public everything that's been fouled with the court
and went to the Department of Justice on Joey's notticoficial
dot com on the evidence link. But you know, the
thing that is heartbreaking is as many people that do
know how that what has happened, and they saw them
on season two admit to perjury and can figured this out.
Speaker 9 (39:54):
It's heartbreaking for me to.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
Be fighting two different types of cancer in here, and
I can't get the White House to move any faster.
Speaker 9 (40:04):
Of just saying, hey, you know that this guy really
was done wrong.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
You know, and Ronnie, I'm not even asking for a
full pardon to be completely washed away from any of this.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
I would just be satisfied.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
Would time serve no probation so I could move on
and I could travel, and I could.
Speaker 9 (40:20):
Work and get back on my feet, you.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Know, because I look up to President Trump and you know.
Speaker 9 (40:26):
Whether whether he's guilty or not, or you know, he's
still a.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
Convicted fellow with thirty four felonies and he's the President
of the United States.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
So you know, just give me clemency and time served
to let me move on my way, and I can.
I can finish the rest of my life as a
fella because I don't I don't.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
This call is from a federal prison.
Speaker 9 (40:43):
They carry a gun, and I don't do drugs, so
I can.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
I can do anything I need to do if they
just let me go home.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Understood Now, Then I want to talk about the charges
that you were convicted of, because I want we have
a global platform here for you, Joe, and I want
to get your side the story and whether or not
you think there's truth to them, and whether or not
you believe that you really are guilty of what people
think you might be guilty of Okay.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
All right.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
Now, now the two main charges are murdered for higher
which they get. Man has gone on world television admitted
any live.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
Signed after David's on a video confession.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
I did not hire him. Actually, I couldn't stand him.
Speaker 9 (41:25):
And you know, his boss.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
Jeff Lowe, told me to give him three thousand dollars
so he could get off the part and get back
to South Carolina. And that's what they concocted and said
that I gave him that three thousand dollars to.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
Go kill Carell.
Speaker 9 (41:38):
All right, so that's those charges.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (41:41):
Then I have eighteen charges for violating the Dangerous Species
Act and the Lazy Act.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (41:47):
Now, the thing that upsets me the most is people
think that I'm in here for eighteen charges of animal cruelty,
your animal abuse. I have no charges of animal cruel
to your animal abuse. I've never been a chief use
of animal cro few animal beers. I did shoot five
tigers to put them to sleep because my inspector, Debbie
Cunningham and my veterinarian doctor Green had that in our
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written protocols as the way to put them down, because
it was fast and painless versus shooting them five or
six times with tranqui lighters so the vet could walk
in and kill them. I admit I did that, and
I would do it tomorrow if one of my animals
were suffering. But the rest of the charges are paperwork charges.
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And we're talking about things as much as my veterinarian's
office marked the wrong box on health certificates. So they
got me.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
For violing the LASIAC for fraud and a health certificate
and I didn't even I didn't even fill them out.
My vet did.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
So the question is why am I serving time for
something in her office done wrong? But that's all the animal.
Speaker 9 (43:00):
Charges are is mostly paper charges.
Speaker 6 (43:03):
Except for the five tigers that I put down, and
they didn't charge me for shooting them. They charged me
with taking an endangered species without a permit, okay, And
that's under the word take for the for the nature
species that which means hunt, shoot, kill, collect, capture, or
haraf okay. And if you see on the internet, you'll
(43:24):
see that I filed the lawsuit against one of the
facilities that has my some of my tigers, and that's
because they're wanting to neuter them.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (43:33):
So if you're going to put me in prison for
ethanizing an endangered species without a permit. Okay, under the
word take for harmon harafs cutting his balls off and
killing the species is definitely under the word.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Take of harmon and harass and an endangered species. So
the purpose behind that rally is they're either going to
have to accept they got to follow the same rules
as what they put.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
Me in prison for, or they got to get these
animals off the danger a species list, because now they're
claiming that a white tiger is man made and an
orange tiger in America is in bread and neither one
of them can serve any conservation value. So if that's true,
and they're the ones that are dictating the law and
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they don't have it conservation value, they shouldn't belong on
the endangered species list.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Understood, So that would get rid of eighteen of my charges. Okay, understood.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Now, Joe, you just asked the bombshell million dollar question
about this whole situation. Right now, despite everything that you've
laid out, all the information that's come to light, you
find yourself behind bars, incarcerated. I want to get your
perspective of why it's you that was looked at. And
why it's you that was prosecuted.
Speaker 6 (44:48):
Well, for several reasons. Rob At One is I know
I used to be a police chief.
Speaker 9 (44:53):
And that's where I went wrong.
Speaker 6 (44:55):
Was you know, when Carol started harassing me online, I
started to visit and her husband missing, Don Lewis, and
I investigated her for almost eleven years, and I could
all but prove she killed that man. Okay, I've got
her diary, I've got his power of attorneys, I've got
the you know, witnesses, testimonies, I've got every day.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
Okay, So that's one Okay.
Speaker 6 (45:19):
And then I was the largest breeder of tigers in America,
if not the world. I supplied tigers to every zoo.
I shipped animals to Thailand, Korea, Cambodia, everywhere because I
donated the tigers that I rescued. I donated them to
zoos so they didn't have to either buy a tiger
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or catch one out of the wild.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
And I obviously I bred tigers and I used them
for educational purposes.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
And I'll let people.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
Play with them and get to know what a tiger
was all about, so.
Speaker 5 (45:53):
We could help save them.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
In a while, okay, and the animal rights people, Peter Carroll,
they all thought that was animal because I took maybe
tigers away from their mom. Okay, so because I had
two hundred and sixty tigers alone, they had to shut
me down first to make an example out of me.
And that's part of why they made Tiger King the
(46:15):
way they did, because it had an agenda. Made me
look crazy, made all of us animals people look crazy.
Drug dealers, you know, prostitute duc antel with five girlfriends.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
Or wives or whatever you want to call them.
Speaker 6 (46:29):
They had to make us look silly so they could
pass that law in order for people not to be
able to own tigers. But the only people that are
allowed to own tigers in America now are them the
ones did pass the law, the Global Federation Animal Sanctuaries
in the Aza.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Now, unfortunately, Joe, we are running out of time. However,
I just want to say thank you for coming on
the show again giving us your side of the story.
Speaker 5 (46:53):
I can't thank you enough, righty for having me on there.
And you know, all I can do is pray to God.
Speaker 6 (46:58):
Somebody with the Trump administ watches this, listen to this
and says, enough is nothing let me go.
Speaker 5 (47:03):
I actually have some real good support right now of
the Libertarian Party behind me now.
Speaker 6 (47:08):
Too, So my voice is getting bigger and I can
only thank people like you.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
For helping me do that.
Speaker 13 (47:13):
Well.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Absolutely, I sincerely appreciate your time and we will be
paying close attention to your story as things unfold, Joe,
So thank you, Thank you, sir. And coming up next,
President Trump makes a very special announcement about the future
of Space Command, sparking all sorts of questions about America
search for more knowledge about the fascinating world around us,
So stay tuned for more details.
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Welcome back to the real story. The search for knowledge
is what brought man to the Moon, but it took
knowledge already acquired to make it possible to get there.
Those words are attributed to Neil Armstrong, the first man
to ever walk on the Moon, and though not grandiose,
they really highlight the exceptional effort set forth by the
(48:23):
minds at NASA to secure America a spot in history.
The space race is arguably one of the most amazing
things that human beings have ever done, and I'm sure
most of us can't even fathom the sheer amount of
effort and talent that went into getting a man on
the Moon. NASA was firing on all cylinders, and the
greatest minds in America were the ones powering the engine.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Literally.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
In fact, there were only a handful of NASA centers
all over the US, each with their own achievements, but
the one getting the spotlight today is the Marshall Space
Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Note.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
President Trump announced on Tuesday afternoon that the US Space
Command headquarters will be moving from Colorado Springs, Colorado, to
Marshall in Alabama, much to the delight of Alabamians on
both sides of the isle. It's actually something that has
been in the works for some time now, with President
Trump having previously made this decision in his first turn.
(49:20):
And here's a look at his historic announcement.
Speaker 13 (49:23):
So I want to thank you for being here for
this important announcement seven years in the making.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
As you know, this has been going.
Speaker 13 (49:30):
On for a long period of time, and I am
thrilled to report that the US Space Command headquarters will
move to the beautiful locale of a place called Huntsville, Alabama,
forever to be known from this point forward as Rocket City. Okay,
(49:51):
so Huntsville, Alabama. We love Alabama.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Rocket City has such a nice ring to it, doesn't it.
Speaker 6 (49:58):
Now.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Allmakers close to this decision have said it will boost
Alabama's economy, bringing more than thirty thousand jobs to the
state and help us maintain dominance in this space sphere,
which is good for all Americans of course. Now, Marshall
Space Flight Center was opened in nineteen sixty and has
a rich history of rocketry, which Trump has cited as
one of the main reasons for this move.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Now, the transfer.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Itself will take a few years, but we can't wait
to see how it goes and more importantly, what it'll
do for this great country. And that concludes today's broadcast.
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you're doing. These are some of the wisest words to
ever be spoken, and they are attributed to a man
named W. Edwards Deming born in Sioux City, Iowa, on
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October fourteenth, nineteen hundred. Deming was an American author, engineer,
and management consultant who is best known for his pioneering
work in quality management and statistical process control. He held
degrees in electrical engineering from the University of Wyoming, mathematical
physics from the University of Colorado, and a PhD in
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mathematical physics from Yale, and he played a pivotal role
in accelerating Japan's industrial revival following World War Two. Deming
also spent years working for the US Department of Agriculture
and the Census Bureau before making his big break in
Japan in nineteen fifty, when Japanese business leaders brought him
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to their country to teach executives and engineers alike about
his methods. But on top of it all, he consulted
for some of the biggest companies known to man, including Ford, Sony, Toyota, Xerox,
and Procter and Gamble throughout his life, but Deming, above
all else was world famous for his fourteen key principles
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of successful management. Each one was wiser and more profound
than the previous one, and of them all, the fifth
one stands out as a shiny example of what the
US government desperately needs to incorporate to improve constantly and forever.
We all know there's enough dysfunction in the US government
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to make one's head spin, and one example of this
dysfunction is the national debt, standing at more than thirty
seven trillion dollars as we speak. The national debt continues
to grow every single year, and very few people in
Washington seem to be seriously interested in addressing this problem.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Moreover, as the debt.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Grows minute by minute, hour by hour, and day by day,
so does the risk of financial crisis. Bringing us all
to this urgent question at the core of the matter,
what happens off the investors who own our country's debt
lose all confidence in our ability to pay them back,
Then what will they just stop buying our debt altogether?
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And if that happens, then what happens next, Say, does
the entire country just plunge into financial catastrophe or does
something else happen? Only time will really tell. However, now
that Congress has finally reconvened from summer recess, returning to
work on Monday from a leisurely break, they have some
unfinished business to address, including a major financial issue to
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address that dovetails with the national debt problem, that being
a funding deadline to keep the government open and avert
a shutdown. Now, the deadline to avoid a shutdown that
could furlow thousands of federal workers is September thirtieth, so
there's less than one month on the clock. And now
the stage is set for a big brawl over the
next spending package. As Republicans narrowly control both chambers of
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Congress with a razor thin majority of just seven seats
in the House and only six in the Senate, Republicans
will need seven Democrat votes in the upper chamber to
push through one point eight trillion dollars in discretionary spending
with a massive seven trillion dollar federal budget. But now
this is where partisan theatrics enter the picture. See, while
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Republicans have already taken bold steps to reduce government spending,
slashing nine billion dollars from wasteful foreign aid and biased
public broadcasting at President Trump's direction, Democrats, on the other hand,
are digging in their heels, accusing the Trump administration of
an all out war on congressional authority and refusing to
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go along with these common sense cuts that rain in
our ballooning debt, which obviously checks out. But here's the
real kicker in this situation. This development isn't just about
dollars and cents. It represents a much bigger and more
important battle for America's priorities. So at this point, the
government goes from one omnibus spending bill to another, stuck
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in this reckless and unsustainable cycle of printing and spending
and taxation without any real strategy for getting back to equilibrium.
So the lesson here is very clear. This is a
pivotal moment for Washington, and things need to change. This
could be a moment where they choose to start living
within their means, one where they can take concrete action
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to change their ways, and one where lawmakers can finally
put a stop to the inefficiency and waste that is
destroying the dollar's value, fueling inflation, and jeopardizing the well
being of every American, regardless of politics. So, simply put,
it's a make or break moment for the country. But
with so much at stake, opportunistic politicians are already making
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this moment about themselves, shamelessly using the funding fight as
leverage to advance their own sinister agenda. And that brings
us right back to square one. So what exactly will
happen next? Here with his thoughts and answers to that
question is Dusty Johnson, the congressman for South Dakota's at
large district.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Congressman.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Thank you for being here, Thanks for having me. Radley.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I do have to tell you, though, I got to
push back in a few ways. I mean the idea
that it's just been business as usual in Washington and
then nobody cares about the debt.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Riley, I'm sorry, you're wrong.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I've been in this Republican House in the last few years.
I mean the Fiscal Responsibility Act. This, even before a
Trump got an office, that was the largest ever cut
and discretionary spending was more than two trillion dollars over
the next few years, and then, of course, as you
made reference to, finally we got our act together on
mandatory spending cutting one point seven trillion dollars with the
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Working Families.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Tax Cuts Act.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
And then I don't know who had our leisurely August recess.
I mean, listen, remote working exists. I mean we were still.
I was talking every single day to the Speaker's team,
to my colleagues. I spent time with EPA administrator Lee
Zelden Brook Rollins was scheduled to come to South Dakota.
I mean, there has been real work going on because,
as you alluded to Riley, there is important There are
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important decisions we have got to make in the next
few weeks.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I completely agree with that, and your point is well taken.
By the way.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
What I mean to say, and what I did say
very clearly, is that very few people in Washington and
the eyes of the average Americans seem to be taking
it seriously. Because elections come and go. We have new
people that we sent to Congress all the time, but
the problem doesn't seem to be addressed to any meaningful,
big picture way because the debt is still ballooning. So
with all due respects, sir, and I do respect everything
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that you're doing. To the average American, it seems like
business as usual because despite what we talk about every
single day, the debt problem keeps getting worse and worse.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
And I hear you, Riley, But that's why I mean
when we use this rhetoric like nothing ever changes and
nothing's gotten better. Of course, the American people decide to
walk away from the problem, of course they get downhearted.
The reality is, no Congress in two hundred and fifty
years has made bigger spending reductions than this Republican House
has in the last few years, both on the discretionary
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and mandatory side.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Now have we solved the problem yet?
Speaker 5 (07:38):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Is there a lot more we have to do? Yes?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Do we need to have righteous indignation to continue this
rush forward toward a better, more limited conservative government. Yes,
But we make it seem like there hasn't been any progress.
We are going to lose the base. They will assume
that none of this matters, And it very much matters.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Understood.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Okay, then in that spirit, let's talk about some of
the actions you would like to see moving forward for
this Republican Congress.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Well, I know it's not as important as us dealing
with the looming shutdown. I assume you and I will
get to that in a minute. That I'm really pushing
for us to get this Trust in Congress Act on
the floor. This would prohibit individual members from buying or
selling stocks. It looks lousy when members make a big
stock trade on Thursday only to make a big vote
on Friday. We need to make it just impermissible illegal
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for members of Congress to buy or sell stocks. I
have not bought or sold one stock while I've been
in Congress. It is easy for members of Congress to
do their retirement investing in things like broad based mutual
funds where they are betting on the American economy as
a whole. We need to pass the Trust Act, and
I think we got a pretty good shot here in
the next couple weeks.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
So that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
So does that lead you to believe then that there's
a lot of support among your colleagues for that legislation.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Our biggest and p him a few years ago was
that Speaker Pelosi was vehemently opposed to the Trust in
Congress Act, and Mike Johnson is far more open to this.
And we've had a number of conversations with him. You know,
I had breakfast this morning with some of the folks
who are leaders on this bill, along with myself, and
we feel a lot better about our prospects for moving
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this forward.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And so what is the next step in that process?
How close are we to actually getting this passed well?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
And this is Democrats or Republicans alike are coming together
to push this now.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
The opposition is also bipartisan.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
There are some folks who just think this is a
terrible erosion of their rights. It's their money, they earned
it in their twenties and thirties and forties. If they
want to buy a share of Apple, they should be
able to buy a share of Apple. I agree with
them that this is an erosion of their rights. But
I just think if you're going to run for Congress,
you need to know that you are not going to
be able to play the market in a way that
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is impacted by the big votes you're casting. I mean,
we don't let baseball players been on baseball games because
we know that their actions have too big an impact
on the outcome. Members of Congress have a big, big
impact on the outcome of these regulatory regimes. We should
not allow anybody to buy and sell these stocks. And
so the next step is to continue to build that coalition,
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continue to put pressure on the Leader and the Speaker
who are open minded, but just tell them this has
got to be a priority and we can do this
at the same time we're dealing with the spending battles
here September thirty.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Okay, understood.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
But on that note, since you brought it up as
well as Congressman, let's talk about the shutdown. What are
your thoughts about that situation as it stands.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Well, let's start at the end, which is where do
we want to end up. We do not want to
be spending billions more. We are thirty eight trillion dollars
in debt. Republicans have been good, not perfect, but good
about cuts to both discretionary and mandatory spending. But we
need to be able to hold the line. This is
an opportunity for us to pass a spending pack that
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holds spending levels flat. Now, there would be some anomalies.
There are some areas in defense where we may need
to spend a little bit more money. There may be
some areas on the border where we need to spend
a little bit more money. But we need to bend
these cost curves in the right direction, and so we
need to engage in whatever tactics will get us toward
flat spending levels. That is why among the most conservative
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members of the House, a continuing resolution, which used to
be a swear word among conservatives but now is gaining
steam because continuing resolutions hold spending levels flat. It may
be that a one year continuing resolution is the best
bet we have to be able to hold spending levels
at last year's levels and the year before.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
That's the levels understood, and now that's spending problem, or
the spending rate, the rate at which we're burning through
cash right now. For a lot of Americans, the bottom
line is that it contributes to inflation. They look at taxes,
they look at inflation. It's making it increasingly more difficult
to save money, to generate value to pass on to
their future generations. So what would you say, congressmen, to
Americans right now who are very sincerely worried about inflation
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but also want to avoid a government shutdown?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah, I mean, clearly, high terraces as part of a
long standing part of the economic landscape would be inflationary.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
We all understand what the President's trying to do.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
He's trying to use the threat of teriffs to be
able to get better trading deals with our partners so
that we can get more American goods get sold, bringing
more cash into this country that would make Americans more prosperous.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Now, you're right, Riley.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
On the other hand, us borrowing more money from the
Chinese and injecting that money into the economy, rather than
making us more prosperous, it actually makes us less prosperous.
Inflation is too many dollars chasing too few goods. With
more trade, we get more American goods. With more borrowing,
we get more cash. And so right now where we're at,
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we're looking at an inflationary concerns on both.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Halves of that equation.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Understood.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Okay, Now to your point there as well, Congressman, I
know this is a very complicated issue, and I'm just
here on the sidelines as a concerned American. So I
do want to say thank you very much for your time,
and I do see the effort that this Congress is
putting into solving these problems. But I also understand that
Americans are very frustrated and they're hoping that we can
take as much aggressive action as possible to minimize the
problem as quickly as possible. But it's very complicated and
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it's time consuming, and there's a lot of people in
Washington that you have to work with, so it's not
always easy to solve these ginormous problems. So everybody understands
that it's complicated and people are just concerned. So I
want to end by saying thank you for your time
and your efforts in Washington.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I appreciate it, sir.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Well, and thank you because you educate so many Americans
every single day about what our government is actually up to.
We need more passionate and informed Americans. Thanks for making
sure that's the case.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I appreciate that very much.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Coming up next, the Chinese Communist Party just held its
biggest military flex in decades to mark the anniversary of
World War Two's end, and some unexpected guests were in attendance.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
More details after the break.
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Speaker 1 (14:33):
Welcome back to the real story. Today's next topic brings
us to Beijing. That's where the Chinese Communist Party just
flects its military muscle and a massive parade marking the
eighty anniversary of World War two's end. China's leader, not President,
but Leader Jijiping, who's also the chairman of their Central
Military Commission, kick things off with a speech that sounded
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like a veiled threat wrapped and talk of peace, and
the ceremony itself began with an eighty gun sol echoing
through Tieneman Square, followed then by their national anthem, a
tune born from resistance against Japanese invaders in the nineteen thirties.
She wrote in a black limousine, miked up and reviewing
the troops who shouted back slogans like we serve the
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people in perfect unison, and he shook hands with World
War II veterans, some of whom were one hundred years old,
all while giving a nod to the foreign help his
country received in defeating Japan, without ever naming America. Interesting
now standing before rows of lockstep troops and gleaming missiles.
She also declared that humanity must choose between dialogue and confrontation,
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while boasting that the Chinese people are not afraid of
violence and are ready to lead the world in that spirit.
Fighter jets also screamed overhead as never before seen. Hardware
rolled down the streets, all under the watchful eyes of
Russian President Vladimir Putin and North Korea's Kim John Un.
But as the parade unfolded, with wires belting out songs
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like Defend the Yellow River and with crowds waving red flags,
President Trump called g out for refusing to recognize America's
efforts and liberating them from Japanese forces. He took a
truth social writing this, The big question to be answered
is whether or not President G of China will mention
the massive amount of support and blood that the United
States of America gave to China in order to help
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it to secure its freedom from a very unfriendly foreign invader.
Many Americans died in China's quest for victory and glory.
I hope that they are rightfully honored and remembered for
their bravery and sacrifice. May President G and the wonderful
people of China have a great and lasting day of celebration.
Please give my warmest regards to Vladimir Putin and Kim
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Jong Un, as you conspire against the United States of
America President Donald J.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Trump.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Very interesting, But setting that aside for a moment, this
spectacle isn't just pomp and circumstance. It's a stark reminder
of Jiji Mping's ambitions, using World War II memories to
rally domestic support for the CCP while also projecting strength
to challenge our American led order. Siji talked piece but
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actions speak louder, and as Beijing pushes its community with
a shared future narrative, we must stay vigilant. Our freedom
depends upon recognizing these threats head on, not burying our
heads in the sand.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
And to that point, this.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Parade followed a trilateral meeting between Xijiping, Putin and Kim
Jong Un in Beijing. They also met at the Great
Hall of People and at Ji's personal residence, where they
reportedly discussed the prospect of expanding their economic and military ties.
What else was discussed is unknown. However, the meeting itself
has raised some urgent questions, and now as we probe
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further into the matter, one has to wonder, is this
summit just a photo op or a calculated challenge to
American leadership. It's also time to consider the implications of
this growing alliance between these leaders, why it has formed,
and what exactly it means for America's interests at home
and abroad. Now here with his answers to those questions
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is Tom Norton, Afghanistan war veteran, Michigan State Senate candidate
and chairman of the America Pack. Tom, thank you for
being here.
Speaker 8 (18:20):
Thanks for having me out there.
Speaker 9 (18:21):
Boss.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
So I have a lot of questions, Let's start with
this one. What do you make of it to see
Kim Jong un in public and with Putin and Ji
of all people.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
I think it's a show of force because Russia has
been getting their butt kicked by the Ukrainians. I mean,
you look at the size of Russia, the military might,
all the technology they claim to have, and they roll
into Ukraine, which has Russian equipment from the nineteen eighties
and they're stalled with minimal amount of Western support in
all reality, and it shows how weak their military truly is. So,
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I mean, this is Russia basically finally betting the need
to z and saying you're going to be the leader
of this alliance because we need you to continue supplying
us the gears, the military equipment and the different parts.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
And North Korea is just a puppet.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
So they're going to show up whenever Ze says show up.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
So you think this is really just a matter of
posturing then and nothing more.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
Well, you look at their equipment at the end of
the day, China unveiled the equipment that looks new, but
China's also been known in the past to decorate equipment
and restamp equipment with older technology. Russia did the same
exact thing with their ten ninety tanks when they rolled
them into Ukraine. They had the ten ninety m and
it was stapled out with this reactive armor, but it
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was still chewed apart by Western equipment left over from
the nineties that we sent to Ukraine, and China essentially
has the same thing. I mean, China's spending more time
trying to build its nave again, which is a copycat
of old Russian equipment. The Viking is their first aircraft carrier,
which was a mothballed, decrepit Russian aircraft carrier that's set
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rusting for twenty years, So they're trying show some strength
as strength and power, because Donald Trump's America First policies
have truly reasserted.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
The United States.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
And everybody tries to say that they're concerned about the West,
but this is a good thing for the West. The
America First police seates because it's making Europe start to
stand on their own two feet. So these three leaders
have to unite together because in all reality, a strong Europe,
a strong America actually show threatens them and their actual
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regimes and the oppression of their own people much much
more than anything else Donald Trump has possibly done globally.
I mean, this is a true stamp of a president
that's shown peace through strength. It's brought back Ronald Reagan's
policy of peace through strength, and Donald Trump is executing
it absolutely beautifully. I don't think any other modern president
since Reagan has been able to address this and do
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this in this fashion.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Whereas scares of.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
Chinese or Russians and the North Koreans, because you have
to realize even Japan's rebuilding their military to offset China,
South Korea, Taiwan, all reality, this eightieth celebration, I'm going
to tick off the Chinese Communist Party here a little bit,
But the true government of the Republic of China is Taiwan.
They are the ones that defeated the Japanese and.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
The United States government.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
If Truman, who was a Democrat, wasn't so weak, we
would have backed the true government of China, and we
wouldn't have these communists right now at pressing or killing it.
They killed over fifty million of their own people.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
That's what the Democrats again showed weakness.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
No, Tom, that's extremely interesting. Thank you for saying that.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
My final question for you today, you look at Jijiping
putin Kim Jong un. Some foreign policy analysts call this
the axis of upheaval, call it whatever you want. It
is seemingly an alliance. And the only question I have
then is does this alliance pose any threat whatsoever to
America's dominance on the world stage.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
As long as we maintain the America First policies and
Donald Trump continues to bring factories back where we can
be the arsenal of democracy again like we weren't during
World War Two, like we were all the way up
through Bill Clinton's NAFTA agreement, and apply that pressure and
continue to work with countries like India who are on
our side. China isn't a thread. At the end of
the day, India can't match China for manpower, and a
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nation like ours with our type of industrial strength can
easily match them by supplying our allies globally in the
amentable war.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Excellent analysis today, Tom, I appreciate it very much. Coming
up next, how powerful is the power of protest? Well,
Today's next guest is here to answer that question, following
a major demonstration in southern California over concerns about locker
room safety recently.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
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Speaker 1 (23:01):
Welcome back to the Real Story. Tuesday, in Temecula, California,
dozens of girls at the James L. DA Middle School,
joined by supportive boys and outraged parents, staged a defiant
walkout from pe class, protesting the Temecula Valley Unified School
District's failure to remove a biological mail from their locker room,
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where he's been changing and shattering their sense of privacy, security,
and frankly innocence, echoing swimmer Riley gains his twenty twenty
two nightmare forced to undress next to transgender athlete Leah
Thomas at the NCAA Championships. Feeling violated and abandoned by
spineless officials, these Temecula girls are drawing a line against
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the same exact betrayal, refusing to normalize the absurd.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
The protest, fueled by flyers and social media from advocates
like Sophia Laurie of the California Family Council, erupted this
past Tuesday on the third day of school after district
counselors allegedly strong armed girls into the locker room, framing
their discomfort as the real issue. This, of course, follows
the tvusd's boards August twenty sixth vote of four to
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one to table proposed mental health into religious exemption forms
for unsafe girls, delaying any fix until at least the
next meeting on September ninth. Board voices like Sonja Shaw
then blasted Sacramento's Democrat pushed madness for creating and perpetuating
this mixed gender madness. Now that brings us to our
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next guest today. Recently, spoke with a governing school board
member in attendance at the walkout, where he made an
extremely valid and concerning point with regard to the gaslighting
of young women for having to sign a mental health
exemption form all because they don't want to change in
front of men. Take a listen.
Speaker 10 (24:53):
The big ruckus is is if a girl has to
sign a mental health exemption form because she doesn't feel
comfortable with possibly a boyd changing in front of her,
then it's we just call it the gas lighting policy
right away, because gender dysphoria is in the DSM five manuals,
and that is what this is. And to have a
girl sign a mental health exemption form which she doesn't
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have a mental health problem is just absolute craziness.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Only in the year twenty twenty five does a female
teenager have to sign a mental health exemption form just
to avoid changing in front of biological men. Their mental
health is perfectly intact. If anyone here needs their mental
health to be exempted, it's the biological men who think
it's somehow appropriate in any way, shape or form to
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change in front of biological women. But then again, welcome
to Gavin Newsom's California A nationwide. Of course, over twenty
states grapple with the transgender locker mandates, with lawsuits mounting.
But Temeculu's kids are proving the fight back starts with
the ones who are being most affected by these degenerate policies.
Our country's youth and many people are finally waking up
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and torching woke authoritarian political overreach with raw common sense,
basic dignity, and overall human decency. Now Here with her
thoughts and analysis is independent investigative journalist Oudra Morgan, who
was actually on the ground for the walkout into Mecula,
and she joins us, now.
Speaker 11 (26:18):
Thank you Riley for having me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
So I thought this issue was put to rest a
long time ago. I cannot believe the radical left is
fighting this fight. What is your perspective about that?
Speaker 11 (26:28):
Well, I think what.
Speaker 12 (26:29):
They're doing is trying to change behaviors of children. They're
very good at, you know, bringing things in incrementally and
you know, getting you to get used to it and
those things. But now they're at a place where they're
really trying to force it upon the children to you know,
be in a restroom changing with a male when they
don't want to be instead of actually, you know, they're
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sacrificing the group for the one, and that's what they
tend to be doing a lot, and it's very dangerous
the road that this leads down.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
It is, and the goalposts on this issue have moved
so quickly, going from at first tolerance, then to acceptance,
then to forced participation now too you have to celebrate
it and embrace it, or else you're bigot or or
there's something wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 12 (27:12):
Well, it's just crazy to think that young girls would
have to claim that they have a mental health issue
if they don't want to change and they're uncomfortable in
front of a male, instead of saying, maybe that person
needs to you know, have.
Speaker 11 (27:28):
Like I don't know.
Speaker 12 (27:29):
It's very it's very sad because they're taking girls and
they're saying they want everybody to feel safe, and it's like,
you're not making everybody feel safe. There's so many things
they could do, but when you want to change behaviors
and force things like a square pag into a round hole,
you have to de incentivize or incentivize, and right now
they're trying to force girls into feeling like they're going
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to be okay with that, which leads down a path
of going, well, is that dangerous? What if it's somewhere
else outside of school and a man comes into the
rest and because there has been rape, there has been
different things that have taken place when this is allowed.
So you know, instead of making sure, because don't use
the rhetoric of all people are safe, this makes everyone
safe because it does.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Not what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
The radical left in this country has made this issue
about safety and inclusion. I don't think it's about that
at all. Clearly it's not because they're inclusive up until
the point where you disagree with that.
Speaker 11 (28:26):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
So what do you think it's really about?
Speaker 12 (28:29):
Well, like I said, I think it's about changing behaviors.
I think it's a direct though.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Like what what's the deeper what need or issue do
they think they're really getting at you?
Speaker 12 (28:37):
Well, I think there's an attack on children, honestly, and
I believe that you have to get to the children
when they're young to change society as a whole. Right,
if you want to push something like this and have
everybody go along with it, you have to start when
the kids are young so that as they go along.
They're the ones pushing it as well, and not deny it,
not say I mean.
Speaker 11 (28:57):
Because they're changing language.
Speaker 12 (28:58):
I mean they're changing the death noistion of a woman,
saying that a man can be a woman, and I'm like,
and even saying that they feel that way, well, you'll
never feel like you will never feel like a woman
because you don't know what that's like. You could say it,
I could say I feel like a man, but I
would never know what that's like. And instead of asking
people to be okay with who they are, they're trying
(29:19):
to change society in a way that you know, leads
to more division. It leads to less babies, right because
you're not going to be having children.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
So that's the point. I'm trying to get to see
them deeper. I think this is part of a bigger
depopulation problem. Yes, not just a war on children, but
or childhood innocence, but the West itself. I think this
is about the destruction of the entire Western world. Absolutely, morality,
the nuclear family unit, childhood innocence, all of it.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
What do you think about that theory?
Speaker 11 (29:50):
I think you're absolutely right.
Speaker 12 (29:51):
I mean they have to I mean they are planned
to is to destroy America. You have to do it
from within, with our own like we have to be
doing it, you know what I mean. No one's going
to come in and like bomb us like we do
other places. It has to happen with the people. And
in order to direct people, like I said, you have
to de incentivize and incentivize. And if you don't want
people to be around, what better way than to make
(30:12):
sure nobody can have children if they're cutting off body
parts that would allow them to do that, yes, you know.
Speaker 11 (30:19):
And instead, like I'm saying.
Speaker 12 (30:20):
If if we were in a world that was about
making people feel good about themselves, you would be like,
you are beautiful the way you are.
Speaker 11 (30:27):
Love yourself completely.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
That's real affirmation, right, love yourself for who you are,
who God made you.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yes, Okay, So clearly there's a very small but really
vocal and radical group of people pushing this agenda. Let's
talk about the people who are fighting it. What did
you make or what did you think about this this,
you know, showing of support for people who are on
the other side of this, on the side of common
sense and decency.
Speaker 11 (30:50):
I thought it was great.
Speaker 12 (30:50):
I thought it was great to see young kids being
active and like standing up for something they know is wrong,
because again, they don't want us to do that, right,
they kind of retaliate if you do.
Speaker 11 (30:59):
And this is why.
Speaker 12 (31:00):
Things continue is because everybody's so afraid to say something.
They don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. But this isn't
about feelings. This is about our future and where we're headed,
and it's very scary to think about. And so it
was so encouraging to see kids offer solutions like not
just going this is bad, and they would all say too,
we're not trying to go against the trans student. It's
(31:22):
not what it's about. But it's about making these girls
feel unsafe. So why don't we offer up options like
their own personal dressing room or bathroom or changing currents,
you know, partitions Like she was very I'm like, this
is fantastic. You should take that to the board of
trustees and tell them those things, because instead of making exemptions,
(31:43):
you should be making policies to say, what's going.
Speaker 11 (31:45):
To make everyone feel safe? Having their own restroom not going?
Speaker 12 (31:48):
Well, they don't feel safe in this restroom, so we're
gonna put them over here and make them feel unsafe.
Speaker 11 (31:52):
That makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
You know, I have one last theory for you because
to the point, you're just so well made outra like,
there are very simple solutions that we could implement tomorrow
to fix this problem.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yes, and yet they don't get put into place.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I think that there's a lot of people who want
to make this an issue just to divide people in
part so they have a rallying cry to win elections.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yes, what do you think about that? There?
Speaker 11 (32:15):
I think you're right.
Speaker 12 (32:16):
I mean, anything they're doing is in order to push
something where you're going to get a lot of support
for this and then show that these people don't support.
So again, it divides the people, but it will allow
them to go. You know, if they're running and they're
running off of that kind of a ticket like gender
affirming care, you're going to get all of those people.
Speaker 11 (32:35):
But they don't understand they're being exploited. Do you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 12 (32:38):
It's like if they can understand that too, Like any
kind of facet or group, they always exploit them to
get some kind of benefit in the long run. And
if people saw that, then they wouldn't fall into the trap.
And you know, so it's interesting but it was very
encouraging to see kids do that. There was a counter
opposition on the other side. The police actually showed up
(32:58):
and the mother of the trans students showed up to
give a hard time to some of the parents that
were there.
Speaker 11 (33:04):
Wow, and she's a substitute teacher real at that school.
Speaker 12 (33:07):
I was like, Wow, you came out to harass and
you know, I mean, and.
Speaker 11 (33:11):
Why not go?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
It's just very revealing.
Speaker 11 (33:13):
Yes, you know, he feels safe, but they don't and
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 12 (33:18):
How can you not like try and make an even
playing field for everybody completely.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
If this was really about a quality.
Speaker 11 (33:24):
Then wet it is not. It is never it's not.
Speaker 13 (33:28):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
But thank you then for exposing this stuff and for
all of your work as an investigative journalist. It's really
refreshing to see that in this world. So Audre, thank
you for being here.
Speaker 11 (33:36):
Thank you Riley.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
And coming up.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Next, Joe Exotic, otherwise known all over the world as
the Tiger King, rejoins the program to provide exclusive updates
about his clemency case, his team's recent talks with the
White House, and much much more. Coming up right after
the break, watch.
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Welcome back to the Real Story.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Today's next segment brings us to an exclusive update from
Jobe Exotic, otherwise known around the world as the Tiger King.
So Joe joined us last week to discuss his ongoing
clemency case, which was filed to get him out of prison,
and he will soon join us to provide some updates
about his case following a recent meeting with White House officials. Now,
he's currently serving a twenty one year federal prison sentence
(34:43):
after being convicted in twenty nineteen for a wide range
offenses Joe will discuss with US today, including ones regarding
the Endangered Species Act and the Lacy Act for falsifying
certain records. He was sentenced to twenty two years in
prison originally in January of twenty two, but the sentence
was vacated in twenty twenty one, leaving to a resentencing
(35:05):
of just twenty one years. Now he remains incarcerated, although
he's attempting to be released. The White House recently reopened
his clemency case, giving him a fighting chance, and he
joins us now to discuss the latest updates. So here
with those details is the Tiger King himself. Joe Exotic, Joe,
(35:25):
thank you for being here.
Speaker 9 (35:27):
Hey, I appreciate you having.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Me again absolutely So for those who don't know, we
had you on the show last week to discuss your
clemency case which has been reopened by the White House,
and I understand that you have some exclusive updates for
us about it. So what can you tell us?
Speaker 13 (35:42):
Joe?
Speaker 6 (35:43):
Oh? Well, dam the Way House, the US Partner Attorney's
office contact with my lawyers Wednesday before lads and let
him know that my case was being investigated and looked
at it.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
And then my counselor.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
Called me in less than and told me that he
showed me an email.
Speaker 9 (36:03):
That he had gotten from the US Department Attorney's.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Office and then he had to respond, you know, with
with what I've been doing in prisonment, which is I
just finished my twenty first class this morning. As a
matter of fact, in the last six months, so I've
completed twenty six classes in six months.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
My points are.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Very low security five years to the door anyway, and
that I've never disrespected any of the staff and I've
been a good boy.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
So we're we're praying.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
We've got people all over the world praying that that
President Trump.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Will will prove this okay understood.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
So as that stands right now, what is the next
step in the process for you?
Speaker 6 (36:46):
Actually, my lawyers are going to be going to the
White House sometime after the eleventh of this month.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
To I guess they got a meeting set.
Speaker 9 (36:56):
Up or something.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
But actually it's just a waiting game right now. There's
there's nothing else I can do. We've we've submitted, you know,
the application, We've submitted all the evidence. We've submitted the
videos and the affidavits of everybody admitted to perjury. And
you know, the the good thing that might come out
of this is we've submitted all of the evidence that
(37:18):
we've gotten off of all of the government witnesses cell phones,
and I'm talking seven one hundred phone recordings and videos
of the one federal agent and the US prosecutor in
Oklahoma City telling them how.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
To fabricate evidence and life. So I'm praying that that the.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
Department of Justice will look into this too, so they
don't do this to anybody.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Else, really, So what kind of recourse would you see
from the Department of Justice? What is it that you're
hoping that from them?
Speaker 6 (37:48):
You know, I think that you know, if if you
can get on world television and admit to perjury and
destroying a man's life and putting him in prison first
seven plus years, you know, uh and taking away as
an entire livelihood, and you know, the hitman on season
two of Tiger King also gave them a complete rundown
(38:10):
of how they were planning on killing me if getting
me arrested didn't work.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
So I would like to.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
See, you know, somebody answer to some of this, you know,
conspiracy to commit murder or perjury.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
But the evidence that we have.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
Is overwhelming of the crimes that the government witnesses were
committing while the government was that the federal agent was.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
Protected them in order to get them to.
Speaker 9 (38:37):
Lie to put me in prison.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
And Ronnie we're talking.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
There's there's tape recordings there of them.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Taping each other about admitting the rape and six trafficking
and bank fraud and identity It's crazy, It really is
crazy that these people are still out there running around
doing this to people and I'm in here after they
all admitted to throughout world television. And the only reason
that they admitted to perjuring in and over their phones
(39:06):
is after they got me put in prison.
Speaker 9 (39:09):
You know, the USDA and the FEDS.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
The Federal Wildlife Service turned on them and took their
animals away.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
So they thought they were.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
Going to get some payback, and they turned over all
their cell phones and hard drives to my lawyers. But
they thought they deleted everything that incriminated them, But my
lawyers recovered seven hundred recordings off the back of their phones.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
Yeah, all of it is on my website.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
It's all public everything that's been fouled with the court
and went to the Department of Justice on Joey's notticoficial
dot com on the evidence link. But you know, the
thing that is heartbreaking is as many people that do
know how that what has happened, and they saw them
on season two admit to perjury and can figured this out.
Speaker 9 (39:54):
It's heartbreaking for me to.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
Be fighting two different types of cancer in here, and
I can't get the White House to move any faster.
Speaker 9 (40:04):
Of just saying, hey, you know that this guy really
was done wrong.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
You know, and Ronnie, I'm not even asking for a
full pardon to be completely washed away from any of this.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
I would just be satisfied.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
Would time serve no probation so I could move on
and I could travel, and I could.
Speaker 9 (40:20):
Work and get back on my feet, you.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Know, because I look up to President Trump and you know.
Speaker 9 (40:26):
Whether whether he's guilty or not, or you know, he's
still a.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
Convicted fellow with thirty four felonies and he's the President
of the United States.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
So you know, just give me clemency and time served
to let me move on my way, and I can.
I can finish the rest of my life as a
fella because I don't I don't.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
This call is from a federal prison.
Speaker 9 (40:43):
They carry a gun, and I don't do drugs, so
I can.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
I can do anything I need to do if they
just let me go home.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Understood Now, Then I want to talk about the charges
that you were convicted of, because I want we have
a global platform here for you, Joe, and I want
to get your side the story and whether or not
you think there's truth to them, and whether or not
you believe that you really are guilty of what people
think you might be guilty of Okay.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
All right.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
Now, now the two main charges are murdered for higher
which they get. Man has gone on world television admitted
any live.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
Signed after David's on a video confession.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
I did not hire him. Actually, I couldn't stand him.
Speaker 9 (41:25):
And you know, his boss.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
Jeff Lowe, told me to give him three thousand dollars
so he could get off the part and get back
to South Carolina. And that's what they concocted and said
that I gave him that three thousand dollars to.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
Go kill Carell.
Speaker 9 (41:38):
All right, so that's those charges.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (41:41):
Then I have eighteen charges for violating the Dangerous Species
Act and the Lazy Act.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (41:47):
Now, the thing that upsets me the most is people
think that I'm in here for eighteen charges of animal cruelty,
your animal abuse. I have no charges of animal cruel
to your animal abuse. I've never been a chief use
of animal cro few animal beers. I did shoot five
tigers to put them to sleep because my inspector, Debbie
Cunningham and my veterinarian doctor Green had that in our
(42:12):
written protocols as the way to put them down, because
it was fast and painless versus shooting them five or
six times with tranqui lighters so the vet could walk
in and kill them. I admit I did that, and
I would do it tomorrow if one of my animals
were suffering. But the rest of the charges are paperwork charges.
(42:33):
And we're talking about things as much as my veterinarian's
office marked the wrong box on health certificates. So they
got me.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
For violing the LASIAC for fraud and a health certificate
and I didn't even I didn't even fill them out.
My vet did.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
So the question is why am I serving time for
something in her office done wrong? But that's all the animal.
Speaker 9 (43:00):
Charges are is mostly paper charges.
Speaker 6 (43:03):
Except for the five tigers that I put down, and
they didn't charge me for shooting them. They charged me
with taking an endangered species without a permit, okay, And
that's under the word take for the for the nature
species that which means hunt, shoot, kill, collect, capture, or
haraf okay. And if you see on the internet, you'll
(43:24):
see that I filed the lawsuit against one of the
facilities that has my some of my tigers, and that's
because they're wanting to neuter them.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (43:33):
So if you're going to put me in prison for
ethanizing an endangered species without a permit. Okay, under the
word take for harmon harafs cutting his balls off and
killing the species is definitely under the word.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Take of harmon and harass and an endangered species. So
the purpose behind that rally is they're either going to
have to accept they got to follow the same rules
as what they put.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
Me in prison for, or they got to get these
animals off the danger a species list, because now they're
claiming that a white tiger is man made and an
orange tiger in America is in bread and neither one
of them can serve any conservation value. So if that's true,
and they're the ones that are dictating the law and
(44:16):
they don't have it conservation value, they shouldn't belong on
the endangered species list.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Understood, So that would get rid of eighteen of my charges. Okay, understood.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Now, Joe, you just asked the bombshell million dollar question
about this whole situation. Right now, despite everything that you've
laid out, all the information that's come to light, you
find yourself behind bars, incarcerated. I want to get your
perspective of why it's you that was looked at. And
why it's you that was prosecuted.
Speaker 6 (44:48):
Well, for several reasons. Rob At One is I know
I used to be a police chief.
Speaker 9 (44:53):
And that's where I went wrong.
Speaker 6 (44:55):
Was you know, when Carol started harassing me online, I
started to visit and her husband missing, Don Lewis, and
I investigated her for almost eleven years, and I could
all but prove she killed that man. Okay, I've got
her diary, I've got his power of attorneys, I've got
the you know, witnesses, testimonies, I've got every day.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
Okay, So that's one Okay.
Speaker 6 (45:19):
And then I was the largest breeder of tigers in America,
if not the world. I supplied tigers to every zoo.
I shipped animals to Thailand, Korea, Cambodia, everywhere because I
donated the tigers that I rescued. I donated them to
zoos so they didn't have to either buy a tiger
(45:41):
or catch one out of the wild.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
And I obviously I bred tigers and I used them
for educational purposes.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
And I'll let people.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
Play with them and get to know what a tiger
was all about, so.
Speaker 5 (45:53):
We could help save them.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
In a while, okay, and the animal rights people, Peter Carroll,
they all thought that was animal because I took maybe
tigers away from their mom. Okay, so because I had
two hundred and sixty tigers alone, they had to shut
me down first to make an example out of me.
And that's part of why they made Tiger King the
(46:15):
way they did, because it had an agenda. Made me
look crazy, made all of us animals people look crazy.
Drug dealers, you know, prostitute duc antel with five girlfriends.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
Or wives or whatever you want to call them.
Speaker 6 (46:29):
They had to make us look silly so they could
pass that law in order for people not to be
able to own tigers. But the only people that are
allowed to own tigers in America now are them the
ones did pass the law, the Global Federation Animal Sanctuaries
in the Aza.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Now, unfortunately, Joe, we are running out of time. However,
I just want to say thank you for coming on
the show again giving us your side of the story.
Speaker 5 (46:53):
I can't thank you enough, righty for having me on there.
And you know, all I can do is pray to God.
Speaker 6 (46:58):
Somebody with the Trump administ watches this, listen to this
and says, enough is nothing let me go.
Speaker 5 (47:03):
I actually have some real good support right now of
the Libertarian Party behind me now.
Speaker 6 (47:08):
Too, So my voice is getting bigger and I can
only thank people like you.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
For helping me do that.
Speaker 13 (47:13):
Well.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Absolutely, I sincerely appreciate your time and we will be
paying close attention to your story as things unfold, Joe,
So thank you, Thank you, sir. And coming up next,
President Trump makes a very special announcement about the future
of Space Command, sparking all sorts of questions about America
search for more knowledge about the fascinating world around us,
So stay tuned for more details.
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Welcome back to the real story. The search for knowledge
is what brought man to the Moon, but it took
knowledge already acquired to make it possible to get there.
Those words are attributed to Neil Armstrong, the first man
to ever walk on the Moon, and though not grandiose,
they really highlight the exceptional effort set forth by the
(48:23):
minds at NASA to secure America a spot in history.
The space race is arguably one of the most amazing
things that human beings have ever done, and I'm sure
most of us can't even fathom the sheer amount of
effort and talent that went into getting a man on
the Moon. NASA was firing on all cylinders, and the
greatest minds in America were the ones powering the engine.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Literally.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
In fact, there were only a handful of NASA centers
all over the US, each with their own achievements, but
the one getting the spotlight today is the Marshall Space
Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Note.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
President Trump announced on Tuesday afternoon that the US Space
Command headquarters will be moving from Colorado Springs, Colorado, to
Marshall in Alabama, much to the delight of Alabamians on
both sides of the isle. It's actually something that has
been in the works for some time now, with President
Trump having previously made this decision in his first turn.
(49:20):
And here's a look at his historic announcement.
Speaker 13 (49:23):
So I want to thank you for being here for
this important announcement seven years in the making.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
As you know, this has been going.
Speaker 13 (49:30):
On for a long period of time, and I am
thrilled to report that the US Space Command headquarters will
move to the beautiful locale of a place called Huntsville, Alabama,
forever to be known from this point forward as Rocket City. Okay,
(49:51):
so Huntsville, Alabama. We love Alabama.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Rocket City has such a nice ring to it, doesn't it.
Speaker 6 (49:58):
Now.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Allmakers close to this decision have said it will boost
Alabama's economy, bringing more than thirty thousand jobs to the
state and help us maintain dominance in this space sphere,
which is good for all Americans of course. Now, Marshall
Space Flight Center was opened in nineteen sixty and has
a rich history of rocketry, which Trump has cited as
one of the main reasons for this move.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Now, the transfer.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Itself will take a few years, but we can't wait
to see how it goes and more importantly, what it'll
do for this great country. And that concludes today's broadcast.
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