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to everybody who follows us yeah, we're not, you know,
popping on TikTok. They got a shadow band over there.
But you know, we did some good work. It was
it was fun well elastic. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Man. When I was on TikTok, I had did a
video that broke, like I think it broke, like one
hundred thousand views packed me up.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So why do you think me and you right our
podcast and even separately with Struggle Life, why is it
that we're talking about the same stuff, yet they block
our shit and they let other people go on.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well, I don't know, it's a good question even know
why I felt I know sometimes with a lot of
stuff that I was saying. You know, it was never
it was against.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
The green, but what we say is against the grain.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, and then it's fucked up because you know, I
know what you're saying, because like other people go ahead
and say things against the green. But maybe we was
to see. They like people to be in this constant
mystery of the talks of certain things. You know, they
want people to continue to have their mind going versus
people who are just being like more direct with their
thought process about something.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I feel like other people are they're rerect Now I'm
not trying to accuse people of anything. But it kind
of feels like other people are getting by the algorithm
because maybe they're control opposition, or maybe they're connected to something.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I mean, a lot of these niggas are, but man,
I'll be surprised how many people's fucking any sororities, fraternities
and all this other shit and they into some shit,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And I'm not hating because if you go back to
both of our pages just looking at you know, the
consistency and the comments and the numbers, you get what
I'm saying that, Yeah, we were like on a roll.
So it's just like why but other people can be
on a roll and they continue on and they're not
even touched to it in the algorithm. I don't know.
(04:43):
It just doesn't make sense to me. Yeah, do I
sound like a hater? No, I'm just questioning it.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Amen, It's okay, you.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Know, but that's that we got people who you know,
love and support our podcast Dutch just brand so you know.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, Now I came to the co it was just
like I almost caught myself. I was going to pay
for a little boost on on on the shirt, right,
and I'm like, you know what, I know too much
to be paid for a boost. The ship is all controlled,
you know what I mean. I don't think it's not
even gonna be worthwhile. I'm better off just being more
like outside, you know what I mean. I saw people
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or whatever, you know, especially when I got a page
I know them been shadow band and blocked, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, it seemed like, you know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Understand, like when I made them don't do a T
shirts and hoodies and ship that was that that stuff
got blocked in shadow Band in the on the algorithm.
It was not trying to let that shit move.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Like that, you know, But would you change a thing?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Nah? Because that means I was doing something right, you
know exactly. That means the message too with it like
it meant. It meant that the a I was able
to scan the message like oh nah, this shit can't
fly like that. You know. It had ship that was
like sixty shares, and the ship wasn't pushing like it
was supposed to, like other people was buying it, but
the likes wasn't pushing, just holding it like nah, I
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don't care how many people share it, No one's going
to see this people people. It came to the point
that people was hitting me up, like, oh, I don't
want to share your stuff like that. When I do,
I don't guess much interaction, like the algorithm stops flowing
my own ship.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, you know, I'm not trying to be funny. I
feel like people in the past, not everybody who's done
certain promotions for us, I feel like our I don't
know if them promoting us fucked up their ship. Yeah,
and I feel like it did, which is fucked up.
That's not narntent. We try to do business.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
We're paying people, but not that at the end of
the day. The maggers on the same team as us,
and they know what this comes with. They know that
there's no post certain things. Gonn eventually push your ship
out the algorithm.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, people are never affected.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Some people to us it's teaming. They not. But we'll
be surprised. I mean, the dudes out there, they make
like they'll make like three, four or five Instagram pages
dedicated to the ships, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
this one get packed up. I got the other one
on the other phone, you know what I mean. And
I got another one on my on my on my
what you call it on like the iPad and I
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got the other one I go on when I go
on the computer only you know what I mean, like
different devices because you know, like for a while, I know,
my phone could just be like boom is done and
everything you posting this clip. But if I get another
device and make a new page or something, it might
flow differently, you know what I mean? This algorithm shit, man,
and that is just for the birds.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Would we would have to test that through a VPN
or something?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
All that VP and shit and another thing. A lot
of them dudes is kind of nerdy. They know how
to flex that VP and shit to get around things,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, So that's just such chit and chatting about that.
But you know what's good? Everybody?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
What's good? Dutch?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
So before we get into today's topic, do you have
anything new to share? I know I have a few
things I want to talk about.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Go ahead?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
What why you sound like that? Sound more enthused? Damn?
Do you have? I say? You can start first? I
just well, you know, they have a new virus that's
being spread in China, all right, and it has to
do with mosquitos. To me, it's disgusting. Okay, it's called
(08:16):
the shit. Y'all know I'm not good with words, so
bear with me. Let me, let me sound it out.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Chick coo young, Yeah, No, chickong goon yea, chickungo Yeah,
we're gonna go with that chickungoun yea virus all right.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And China has waged the war on the chick chung gunya.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Virus nice with drones, nice.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And elephant mosquitoes. So it's a new illness that's spreading.
They said it's been over seven thousand cases. Nice, all right.
I think that's nasty. But that's something that I always
thought about, even before the coronavirus when I would travel
to other countries. Yeah, I would think about like aids
being spread through mosquitos, Like I don't know that ever
(09:05):
crossed your mind. I'm not trying to be funny, like
you know what I'm saying, like ill, like you you know,
because they are biting one and then they're gonna go
to the next person and bite the next person. So
that's always something that kind of rang in my head
when it came to mosquito bites. But yeah, they said
it's a painful mosquito born virus and they haven't seen
(09:26):
anything like this since COVID.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
All right, then they're stir some fear up.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Well, you guys have to remember SPARS twenty twenty five.
They had that out blatantly, right and SEARS twenty twenty five,
So we already know that something is most likely going
to occur before the end of the year when it
comes to some type of virus. Will it be mosquitos?
I ain't gonna lash. It's a little terrifying, and I
think the mosquitoes are probably AI driven, right, So I
(09:58):
don't know, you know what I'm saying, And that's just
something to be on the lookout for. Uh, this is
this is gross, all right. They said that residents have
been ordered to remove stagnant water. You know, whereas stagnant
water is mosquitos they breed, right, that's kind of like
their habitat. Should they even threatening people with fines up
(10:20):
to fourteen hundred dollars if they refuse to comply with
removing any type of stagnant water, I guess on their
property things like that. So I don't know how the
pool life is in China, but I'm assuming you know,
they're probably making people drain their pools. Who knows, right,
they said they have five homes have their electricity cut
for not cooperating. And you guys have to remember that
(10:41):
China's under the social credit system too, so that plays
a part in that. I don't know. I think that's gross.
I think that's crazy. If you go look it up,
you see pictures of the drones. Is it propaganda? I
don't know. But just like with the COVID thing, we
know the truth behind that. But what do they do.
(11:02):
They made everybody's reality. So even with this mosquito thing,
if this is gonna be the thing, they gonna make
it everybody's reality. I even saw something about like a
flesh eating virus too. That's nasty as well. Yeah, there's
some type of flesh eating a virus going on. Let
(11:23):
me see, it's actually a flesh eating bacteria. Let me
correct myself because bacteria and viruses are different. And they
said eight have been dead, thirty two stick across the
Gulf coast states and they said it's like mainly in Florida,
So just be on the lookout for these things. All right,
(11:44):
that's nasty as well. It's getting nasty out here. You
got flesh eating bacteria and then you got a damn
mosquito virus. Gosh, getting horrible, isn't it. Yeah, man, I
think that's all I have. As far as news, I'm
sure there's a lot to talk about, but you know,
y'all listen to other people, so don't be trying to
(12:07):
rely on us, yes, for as your news source. We're
not journalists, all right, But did you have anything or
you want to get straight to the episode?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Man? Is this episode oki dokie?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
This is episode two seventy four, and the title of
this show is called the diaspro War, Diaspora War, the
diaspra War. Now, we haven't really been talking too much
about this, but it's been heavy on TikTok as far
(12:40):
as this whole diaspora war. Now, the diaspora war is
nothing new. You know. We have an entire episode called
the Disconnect between the Black Nations. Right, that's such an
old episode. I was like twenty nineteen like season when
we first started the podcast, I think. But either way,
you know, we get into the topic of how a
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lot of black foreigners, right, they have a very negative
viewpoint on Black Americans. We talk about how we have
differences things like that. I haven't listened to that episode
in a very long time. I probably should have listened
to it before this show, but yeah, maybe I'll listened
to it after. But y'all go back to that show
(13:26):
if you want to hear our thoughts then, right, and
can compare it to what we're saying now. That's always
good to do. You can see evolution, right, or maybe
some things remain the same. I don't know, but I
wanted to talk about it because it's pretty prevalent and
I feel like a lot of people are not seeing
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the bigger picture. And I also believe this is another agenda,
So let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
So a lot of people are clearly aware of the
FBA movement. I don't think we've ever really used that
term on our podcast, but the term is foundational Black American, right,
and that term is just defining our lineage.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
What it's cringe?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
What's cringe?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
These terms that people just come up with.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I mean, I think some of the terms that they
labeled us in the past is cringe.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Everything cringe.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So gosh, y'all, let me get it out. Can't just start.
I'll give you, I'll give you your moments to rebuttal but yeah,
that is a term right that signifies our lineage as
far as you know me and Dutch, this is where
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our people are from. Our people are from America. Our
grandparents are from America, Our great grandparents are from America.
This is our lineage, our people, our ancestors built this
country right right, that separates us as far as you
(15:12):
know how they like to group all the other black people,
like the black immigrants together because you know, as far
as the race, we're all black, right right, but ethnic
wise we're not the same, and nationality wise we're not
the same. So this movement kind of came about to
(15:34):
just make a clear line as far as like this
is who we are, because you can't keep grouping us
with the other blacks who might not have our interests.
For instance, because we did a show about reparations as well,
and from what I remember on Nashall, what I said,
it's like, you know, the other blacks, if you're not
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from this this country, if your your people are not
from this country, not saying that they don't deserve reparations
in their country, because slavery didn't just happen in America,
they would have to go to their country where their
people is from to fight for reparations. But because a
lot of the people who come over here they know
that if we got reparations, they wouldn't get it. They
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would have to go back to their country and deal
with that. A lot of the immigrants they do certain
things to try to prevent us, like in you know,
higher positions, like in you know, political offices to get reparations.
So that is my understanding of the difference. When it
comes to people talking about the FBA movement, however, I
(16:43):
feel like it is convoluted into some other shit that's
turning into a lot of self hatred and a lot
of things that the white man wants us to like
like internal fighting, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so
I'll stop, I want to continue. Well, I just want
(17:04):
to share thoughts on I guess the division. Now, we're
New Yorkers, right, so it's gonna be a little bit
more difficult for us compared to other people. And y'all
always call out New Yorkers for that shit, right, because
we grew up around black immigrants, whether they're Jamaican, right,
(17:28):
whether they Haitian, whether they're Afro Latino, whether they Puerto Rican,
whether the Dominican, right, Nigerian gyn Like, we grew up
around black immigrants, so we've heard some slick remarks things
like that, you know what I'm saying, But we grew
up with them and we were kind of always kind
of like one with them, and we kind of, you know,
(17:51):
embrace their cultures and things like that. So just just
keep that in mind when you hear us talk about it.
I know some people are probably rolling their eyes, but
that's gonna always be our perspective. Other black people, right,
who didn't grow up around these other black groups, they're
(18:12):
gonna have a different perspective from us. But go ahead, Judch,
So what what's your thoughts on everything when it comes
to this division, because now there's a whole were we're
protesting African business movement going on our social media where
we should be prioritizing white people in my opinion, Yeah,
that's that's what's going on. Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I'm I'm lost of words that I ain't even see
that on my timeline. That must be on your timeline.
That's some hyper focus trying to make you tell you
some little shit that ass.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, so that's that's going on.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I can't second that. That's stupid. That's so wasted time
protesting African own black owned stores. So Black people are
now protesting black owned stores.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Well, they're gonna just yeah, that's what they're gonna but
they're gonna say.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
After many Africans and this this this categorized African owned
businesses real quick, right, it's not too many categories that
African people really tap into. I'm not gonna be ignorant
and to act like African guys don't own tech companies
or uh, you know, any other type of businesses out there.
But on some mainstream regular degala, it's going to be
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an African type clothing store, maybe your herb store, maybe
a both dega, maybe a restaurant, hair store to African. Okay,
so these are now you're narrowing it down. So right
now they're focusing on baldy Kaitan African braiding salons because
(19:43):
of this subdivision diaspora beef with when what's the beef
with the act African women feel a certain way to
the Black American women come on to hair.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Okay, it's an ongoing beef that we don't some of them.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
We all noticed that it'll be your hair.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
That's true, but we don't have an honest conversation. That
is true.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Okay, some of them, not all of them.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Some of them are like some of them be talking shit.
There are plenty of African first generation, no second generation whatever.
I don't know that generation ship because we ain't immigrants,
so I don't really know. But as far as like say,
their parents are African, right, but they was born here,
so they're very our culture, very Americanized, right. So when
they go into the African shops, some of them experience
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prejudice from their own people, but they didn't know that
they was that was their own people, you know what
I'm trying to say. So they'll start talking in their language,
whether it's French, whatever, whatever the languages that they speak, right,
and she won't say nothing. But then at the end
she'll call them out like, oh you thought I was
just black American, right, I actually understand what the fuck
you're saying. And then she curses them out like I'm
(20:56):
not patronizing with them. We're not gonna act like foreigners,
not just black ones do that shit in general. Right.
We know the Koreans, the BM and E's the Chinese,
they like the hide behind their language and talk shit
about us. Right as far as the braiding salons, going
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back to your question, I don't know what the fuck.
It just started a trend, Like black women just started
talking about that negative experience with you know, African braiding salons,
and we've all, like, like Dudge said, they do seem
like some of them want to pull out your hair.
You know what I'm saying, are some hate and shit?
I don't. I don't know, like that's that's the reality
of it. But I don't think it's all. But my
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whole thing is when it comes to diaspora wars, I
think there is you know, a Biggert puppeteer at play, right,
And That's where I'm coming from. So going back to
the FBA thing, because I don't feel like I got
your full thoughts on it, A lot of people are
(22:01):
just like your f all the other people. We need
to just worry about ourselves because it seems like nobody
else supports us, right, and they want to, you know,
accuse Africans and tribalism and things like that. But I
feel like a lot of people are losing the history here,
especially of those of you who claim that you believe
(22:23):
in the truth, claim that you believe in the Bible,
claim that you believe we are the chosen people, that
our bloodline is the sentants of the Israelites. If you
are not believing it anymore, just say you don't believe
that no more, because if you actually read and do
your history, you're gonna know that there was a separation
between the Kingdom of Judah and the Kingdom of Israel.
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I feel like people are losing it. You get what
I'm saying that it's like y'all not understanding the biblical
history of our people and how they say nothing fucking
new when it comes to this division that we have
amongst each other. Y'all niggas is out of touch. I'm
going to bring up certain scriptures, certain references that I have,
but I want to go back to your thoughts as
(23:06):
far as your experience with you know, black immigrants just
coming up and shit like that.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And this is just my own experience with them, you
know what I mean. I grew up in the Bronx
with Jamaicans.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
That area we're from was little Jamaica.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Type shit, and you know, I went to school with
a lot of Jamaicans. My bus driver growing up for
years was Jamaican. Uh. And then as I got into
like high school, was my big boom of diversity. But
when I got into college, still a lot of diversity.
But when I was doing things with the brand with
Struggle life, when it came around to doing you know,
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black oriented events on different college campuses, most of them
was ran by black student unions. If they wasn't a
black student union, it was always like a black slash
Caribbean type, so suited type of union. So I was
around them a lot. And the talks, and I'm to
be honest, the talks wasn't always how you describe them,
(24:10):
feeling like they was better than it was because at
one point, you know, we said, like you said, we
used to always embrace that stuff. You know. That's yeah,
all that you know what I'm saying, Like, that's what
That's what made the Bronx the Bronx. That's what made
your friend group your friend group, you know what I mean.
The fact that there's so many different cultures of us.
You got some black, right, that's right. All that type
(24:36):
of mixtures what made it like, yeah, you got you
gotta have a Dominican girl in the mix, you gotta
have Puerto Rican and it made you gotta have whats
Indian this you got? You got you have to. That
was what it's what it was about. That's what it
is about. So to see the division, it's like from
from us the social media standpoint. And that's why I said,
these things are like social media narratives. That that cringed
me because I know it's not. It's not. It's kind
(24:57):
of like this in real life, but it's not. It's
so some people that had this mentality of you know,
they felt like they better than where I was saying
a few episodes of Gold and come on too. Like
my talks with being around you know, my other I
would say, you know, my my Negro ancestors from islands,
you know what I mean, and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
That's all I want to act.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Like like like if anything, I'm your Negro ancestor from
the South and y'all my Negro ancestors from the islands,
you know what I mean. We all came from you know,
all kinds of different areas people.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Why are we missing that point?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
So my my my experience growing up with them, it
wasn't really beef. It was more like they always felt
like they were expressed that they felt like they took
the opportunity a little more serious because of the lack
of opportunity that they probably witnessed. Some of them have
their own different walks of life, and you have to
sit there and talk to people of that culture and
(25:55):
have real talks on them. They was playing that they
take the opportunity of being in college and doing these
quote unquote Americanized things and whatever as a as a privilege,
as opportunity to do it and do it to the
max and take it serious, and others didn't take it
as serious. Others would take it for granted. And they
have more pride with the opportunity, and that's why they
(26:16):
were so you know, pride for of their culture, like oh, yeah,
you know, we're gonna do this the way we're going
to do it. And then and then slowly but surely,
the those the little groups of the African students that
will start off in the black student unions, then it
became more of an African student union because they was
able to spread and then and make you know, but
then they start pushing their more quote unquote you know
African type ways on top of you and making you
(26:39):
feel less than I guess as a bon unquote black
American or whatever. I've seen all kinds of different things
happen within going to these schools, you know, like it'll
start off with you know, it's like it'll start off
the Black student Union, and then by the time I
get to the fourth year when these same people are
working with seniors and I was the African students, you know,
and and that I'll say this is probably like between
(27:01):
like twenty twelve all way to like twenty eighteen of
just witnessing like different you know, formations of how this
might go go ahead.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
So for me, right, a lot of the times people
take the ignorant fuckers and highlight them, even though we
all have our own stories when it comes to dealing
with black immigrants, right, I've had people say blatant things
to me that was very derogatory, the same talking points
that at the FBA movement says as far as like, oh,
we don't have culture. Oh you're just American, I feel
(27:34):
sorry for you. Oh our parents tell them, tell us
not to bring home an American black women. Like I've
heard this shit from these people's mouths, right, but we
already kind of know how like the indoctrination of what
they're they're being you, you know what I'm saying, The doctrination
that's given them these evil as derogatory viewpoints aren't us.
(27:57):
But apart from that, what I wanted to say is
that a lot of the times it's really just the
people here because the people that are in their country
they don't really feel that way towards us, or they
don't act like that. I can only speak on the Caribbean, right, Dutch. Yes,
I studied abroad in Jamaica. I've been to Dominican Republic.
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I've been to Puerto Rico. I've been to Mexico. You
know what I'm saying. Me and Dutch, and Dutch been
to his other shares in Bahamas. You know what I'm saying.
Me and Dutch have been to a few Caribbean countries
between us. Our experience with the black people, like Dutch,
our sister brothers, the Negroes from the Islands, is not
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the same mentality as the people in America. So now
the thing is not everybody, but a lot of people
ain't that well traveled. And I don't even consider what
we did as well.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Travel.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
There's people who've been a lot of countries, all the police,
different continents, Right. But I'm saying that like when you
haven't actually touched the land of these people that you're
making these accusations of, right that actually still live there
and remain in their country to build up the infrastructure
in the economy, not the quote unquote fleers like y'all
like to say, right, they don't have that mentality towards us,
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Like how these niggas over here have this mentality towards us.
You get what I'm trying to say. That's like in
Dominican Republic, all those black people over there, they was like,
yo're they were like one with us, right, Dutch. They
were like us, we the black, best color in the world,
us black people. That's what they would Multiple people said
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that to us on different occasions that were black. I'm
looking at these niggas, look like they might like my daddy.
You get what I'm saying. You know what I'm talking about,
that you were there? Yeah, but the Dominicans say in
New York not all someone will be like, oh, I'm
not I know black, I'm Dominican. Right, we all know that.
We all heard it. We said it on the show.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I'm not black, I'm old jig.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, I'm not black, I'm o j You get what
I'm saying, Like, we know that they do that, but
when you go to the country a lot of the times,
that's not the fucking mentality. Now, everybody can have their
own opinion. Now as far as Puerto Rico, I can't
defend y'all because I ain't have a good time with
y'all and be honest. But then again, I wasn't around
those Afro Puerto Ricans, so I can't say right, so
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I ain't. I'm not even gonna clue perto Rico. I
was around most of the mixed race and the white
ones when I was over there, but outside of that,
everywhere else, that's not really the mentality. Like, oh, people
want to say all like how certain Latinos treat us right,
and now they want to try to cry out for
us when they've always treated us differently and try to
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align themselves with white supremacy. Right when me and Dush
went to Mexico, niggas was treating us like king and
queen and the white people was getting treated like shit.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
We witnessed that they was praying on the white people
to sell them coke.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
All right, not even like just that, but no, no,
they they treated us differently, so they did. So it's
like y'all just ignorant, cause y'all ain't I'm not trying
to shoot on certain people. And then y'all try to
and then y'all try to act like black UK and
black Canadians don't exist. So where so what do you
group them?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Asks?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
You know what I'm saying now we.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Talk about them in black UK motherfuckers. I fuck with y'all,
I really do. But they ego will coming on to
them feeling like they better than Americans. And ship is
really wild, like nasty work like it's so nasty, the
same colonizers. So I'm talking, Yeah, I've listened. It's really
sick though I've listened to I set. I sat in
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like clubhouse rooms that was like dedicates like the like
black like UK dudes and girls and ship and the
thing that they say and they have like American versus UK.
It's like it's kind of cringe, just like yo, y'all
crazy like that they outlook on American women discussing.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Were the same colonizer.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Hey, man, it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
That's why I'm so confused. And then and this ties
into people rejecting the Transatlantic slave trade. Now, how how
can you believe in the Bible when the Bible actually
coincides with the Transatlantic slave trade. I'm confused now all
of a sudden, ships don't exist right Like, I'm not
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even trying to We talked about this before. I ain't
gonna tell nobody what to believe. But it's getting cringey
and it's getting kind of weird. And when y'all want
to talk about a name, I want to. I want
to start off with one thing. First of all, all
these countries, all these cities, all this shit has been renamed,
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all of it, this shit has all been renamed. Let
me pull up some some things to support what I'm saying,
because I think niggas is out of touch a little bit.
It's getting really cringey. This is what hey, a lot
of it. I get where our people, as far as
the Americans are coming from, being fed up with the disrespect.
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I understand that, you know, like I said, I've experienced
it firsthand. However, we're not gonna sit here and prioritize
fighting amongst other black people when we have bigger fish
to fry. This shit is regarded as fuck. That's like,
you're not gonna get me to sit here and do
that shit. So if you don't fuck with us no more,
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because that's how our mentality is, then don't fuck with
us because you're not gonna get me to sit here
and try to shit on another fellow black person. I'm
not and I know that there are people in these groups.
There are some Africans, there are some Caribbeans, there are
some Latinos who are just blatantly discussing with their mentalities
towards us. But we're not gonna say that everybody. We
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just not We're just not gonna do that, all right.
In the book is Joe ciphist right, literally Book one,
chapter six, verse one thirty. The original names of the
Lamb masses, the continents, the countries have been changed, vanished away,
another sound given them hardly to be discovered. Yet a
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few have kept their denominations. So you know what that means.
You want to call yourself American nigga, that's you. You
call yourself o the fucking white man that conquered his place, dummy,
even the African you call you the African, you're calling
yourself a fucking white man who conquered Africa. You get
what I'm saying, Like, that's why I don't get it.
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The Bible talks about how his people was gonna be scattered, y'all. Now,
y'all to shit on that. You're trying to You're trying
to shit on the most highest word about how his
people is gonna be scattered, and at one day towards
the end, he's gonna bring us all together. He's saying
he's gonna scatter us, just in America. Now, you got
people in America thinking that we're the only fucking people
that applies to in my opinion, so what are we
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doing here? It's cringey to me. That's just cringey as
fuck to me. Like I said before and pastials, the
people who want to be all Jamaican, I am Dominican.
They're not the original people of those areas either, So
why it was something people over here? I want to
be like, Oh, we're the original people over here, like
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we ain't never been, Like all the land masses were
never connected, like civilization never started closer to the region
of Africa. It's like they don't believe that. So you
guys believe you're telling me to believe that the world
started in America. You're not gonna give me to believe
that shit. You're just not all right. It's just like
everything was one right and shit branched off. So even
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if ship branched off, we were still all connected at one
region at one point. So I don't really understand why
we're doing this shit Like y'all missed me with the
bullshit we can reject. Let's reject all of that shit.
We could just say we're the chosen people of the book.
But y'all don't want that unity. Y'all want to keep
us divided. That's retarded. So that the Most High sat
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in his word that none of these names of these
land masses are original. So you wanna call yourself American
or African or whatever? You calling yourself after somebody who
changed the name. So how does that make you feel? Right?
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Right?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
How does that make you feel like? I? I really,
it's it's as cringy as hell to me. I don't
I don't get I know we're gonna be losing a
lot of people with this show. But I don't really
give a fuck. Y'all not gonna get me on that propaganda.
You know what I'm saying, You just not you go
back to a past show. We gonna talked about this
ship before you heard our sentiments when it comes to
these things, all right, So I don't know what to
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sit here and tell y'all. Okay. I also wanna talk
about how even you know and Josephus ships are mentioned,
cause niggas acting like ships don't exist and the ships
is some new concept. I'm not trying to be funny.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Al Right.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
They said have a king, right, and they're talking about
I think they're talking about King Solomon, how he had
many ships, and we're gonna talk about the division, like
I said, with uh Judah and Israel. But let me
get back, and I'm a little scattered braid. But the
king had many ships which he lay upon the sea
of Torsues. These he commanded to carry out all sorts
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of merchandise to the remotest nations. So this is not
why are we doing this? We know back in the
day when it comes to like the imports exports, that
ain't nothing new when it comes to ships. So let's
talk about the white people. We know white people are
not indigenous to this land, right, we can all ag
read to that. How to fuck the millions of them
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get over here? How did they get over here? Dutch?
How many? Let's answer this question, guys, because when you
go to the middle of America, right, what do you what?
As white as fuck? It's white as fuck. So you're
gonna tell me it's just them breeding. You're telling me
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that like a few of them came over here and
they just outbred us, right, No, I mean honest, like
we know that they they damn sure. It's not indigenous
to this land. They're not even to the world. Black
people are the original men and women of the earth.
That's what y'all failed to realize. Y'all keep trunning all
were over here, we're over there. It's skinned cringe. Where
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did white people come from? We know we have show
about it, but I'm talking about how they get over
to this land. There had been a couple of millions
of them rights traveled by ship, no Dutch he so,
so that's that's that's plausible. But as far as them
packing up some niggas and put them on boats, that's
not no, no, According to everybody else, that didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Right, everybody wants to jack that didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
That didn't happen. But white people got over here by ships?
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Interesting. Just I'm just asking that, right, I'm just asking
right because can y'all answer that those who don't believe
in the ships then believe that we've just always been
over here? Can you answer that? That shit don't make
no sense? How did the white people get over here?
It was over here too, then they did this over
here too. Then if we playing ships, couldn't ships couldn't
have done that voyage? It should not. You know what
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I'm saying that that ship is not making no sense
to me. I'm not trying to be facetious, but it's
just like, what are we doing here? She is getting
out of hare Man, it's getting out of hand.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Holder.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I had another thing I wanted to mention Zuzu too. Anyways,
Like I said, now, since King Solomon disobeyed y'all, y'all
divided the kingdoms of Israel, all right, it became the
Kingdom of Judah versus the Kingdom of Israel. You had
ten tribes on the Kingdom of Israel, and then it
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was Judah and Benjamin grouped together and the tribes never
became united since then. So if we already know that
there was a separation thousands, thousands of years ago, right
then it already says that we were going to be
separated from one another, but we always at one point together.
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So y'all just want to continue this stupid fucking division.
Y'all talking about tribalism. Do you not read the stories
of the Bible. That's been our mentality, which is not good,
but that's been the thing. Oh, there was a war
with Benjamin versus the other tries because of the shit
that happened to that Levit concubine, that they raped her
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and all this other shit. Y'all just don't know the history.
And y'all losing touch now, y'all not even trying to
keep the Bible in it no more. Y'all just are
some feelings, y'all just on some feelings. Now, if you
believe something else and that's how you feel, that's it.
But I'm confused when it's the people who want to
claim that they know that our lineage goes to the
Book of the of the Israelites. That's on this same
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type of sentiments. That's where I'm like, Okay, now you're
losing me a little bit. You get what I'm saying
that She's like, if you're somebody who's all Egyptology, or
if you're somebody who's like, oh, I believe in rocks, fine,
because I know where you stand. But if you claiming
that you you know, follow the Bible, you know, believe
in the Most High, you know that the chosen people
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are the negroes who are scattered. Now you're losing me.
So what do you believe in? Now? I feel like
y'all not even not you don't even believe in the
most Highest word anymore when it comes to this shit.
Am I being dramatic?
Speaker 1 (41:07):
No, you're not right, Like I don't.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I don't get it. Like it says that we was
gonna we are divided. There was a great dispute so
and we never reunited. The Most High is gonna reunite.
It's only gonna be a select group, only one thirds.
And I think a lot of people don't understand the
one thirds from the two thirds. A lot of our
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people are destined to fall. Only a select group of
us are gonna make it one third out of two thirds.
That's a small number. That means the majority is still
gonna be on some bullshit. Y'all talking about boycott and
African braiding salions. You need a boycott the fucking hair dummies, right,
fucking idiots.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
They literally did.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
A whole article took at my house, cancerous and poisonous
to the body. And y'all worried about the fucking black
bread us. Are you fucking It's hardest, but the Koreans
towards selling you this ship or we can that's okay,
we can still patronize the beauty supply stories. The fuck
is going on with y'all? Y'all really pissing me off?
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That's okay. We don't still go to the Jewish owned corporations,
that's okay. The Jewish own people who are in control
of all of this shit. And then you've got people
out here trying to ignore the jew aspect of it
and only focus on the white people. It's the same thing.
How are you gonna sit here and just put your
energy towards the white supremacists and not realize that the
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Jews are their fucking leader. What the fuck are we
doing here? This is getting this is getting out of hand,
it's getting real. Nasty. Shit is blowing mine. I love
my people, I love my other Black people from the
diaspora with their different cultures. Yes, I ain't gonna sit
here and take the few rotten apples that I've encountered
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and apply that ship to all those other people, because
I know they not like that, especially the people who
are actually still living in their countries. You're not gonna
do that shit. You're not gonna do that. You're not
gonna get us to believe that we was never in
Africa when you have African people who are still practicing
the Israelite culture over there. You're not gonna give me
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to believe that shit either. So I don't know what
to tell y'all. And a lot of people don't know
how to be adults and respectfully disagree, right y'all at like, oh,
they don't believe this now, I ain't fucking with them,
They don't fuck with us. Don't fuck with us because
me and Dutch ain't gonna be like fuck other black people.
That's just not us. It's just not Yeah, that's individual shit,
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because you could be a black American grimy as fuck,
I don't fuck with you. Ye, Why I'm supposed to
suck your deck because you're black American, noosed to give
them grace. I'm supposed to get them grace fuck out
of here like our own people. Don't be sitting here
trying to wish harm on you and got the crabs
in the barrel mentality. We're not about to do that shit.
Oh yeah, I like, you know, this is getting really ridiculous,
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y'all know we're looking real stupid out here. We're gonna
boycott the African business. He ain't sucking up your hair,
but you know what fucking up the hair? The hair
that's your buying, dumble hair. What's happening? Shit? Anyways, that's
what it feels like. That's what it feels like. Okay,
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that's just what it feels like, all right. And it
talks about how you know, Judah and Benjamin was gonna
be captive in Babylon and we call what America right Babylon.
So it just coincides with scriptures as far as this division,
as far as Judah versus Israel. But they're all what Israel.
But they're just just so happen to be a divided Kingdom.
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People keep missing that aspect. It's a little cringe. I
don't know what to tell y'all. I just wanted to
share my thoughts on the diaspora war. I'm trying to
see if there was a anything else that I wanted
to mention. I guess the only other thing too, is
you know an Exodus, Exodus eight twenty three, he says,
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and I will put a division between my people and
thy people tomorrow? Shall this sign b that even is delineation?
That's how I look at it. So this was already
prophesized that we was going to have this type of
division amongst us. But in the end, the Most High
is going to gather all of his people from the
four corners. And I want to bring up a last point, right,
that there is this Haitian man who goes to various
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promotus locations around the world and he sheds light on
black people in these particular areas, right. And he went
to Thailand. Sorry, right, Yeah, he went to Thailand, and
he had shown the black people that had a very
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ancient culture in Thailand, right, And it's like he had
to travel over there and then to go to the village,
he had to walk about almost two hours. I'm gonna say,
on foot to their location. Right, And if you want
to look this up, it's the video was by a
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brother named Ace. And the video is called Black Asian
Indigenous tribe in Thailand. Right, It's called the Menik people. Right.
These are literally black people in Thailand. Now, I forgot
the language that they were speaking. They spoke the Thai language,
but then they had their own ancient tongue. Right. But
it's because they were able to speak the Thai language
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or whatever language they was able to communicate with the
tourist person that was with the black Haitian man and
when he was asking them about their beliefs, right, because
he was mainly communicating with the elder, which was his grandmother.
Right of the of the like the tribe or this
particular group of people, she has said something along the
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lines of yah, yahoo or ya something that's deep. Go
look at the video. I'm not making this shit up.
So like, while y'all out here trying to sit here
and be on some division shit, we really do have
our people scattered across the four corners of the end
of the earth. I'm not playing this game. I'm just
not all right. I'm proud to be where I'm from.
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I'm proud to be here from America. I guess you
know what I'm saying. We know the evil history, but
we know that a lot of our ancestors created this nation.
So I'm not denying that. And no, we're not tethers
because we want to believe in black unity. And that's
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another thing. They want to sit here and attack people
who talk like this about unifying black people across the world.
Still they say all Pan african is is dead. I'm
not even It's nothing about Pan Africanism. It's just about
the truth that the Most High has his celebrity with
people that scattered. But if you don't believe that, then
that's probably why you can't relate. But if you claim
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to believe that and you are some new shit, check yourself.
That's all I have to say. And lastly, I just
want to leave y'all with Isaiah eleven verses twelve through fourteen,
King James version. And he shall set up and assigned
for the nations, and shall assemble the outcast of Israel,
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and gather together the disperse of Judah from the four
corners of the earth. The envy also of Ephraim shall depart,
and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off. Ephram
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shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephram.
Let me repeat that Ephram shall not envy Judah, and
Judah shall not vex Ephram. This is a representation of
the kingdoms divided. Y'all said that we were scattered, we
had this division amongst the black nations. This is a
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representation of what's going on today. Y'all say that Africans,
the Caribbeans are jealous of the Americans, whatever, somebody say,
vice versa, whatever. That's no longer going to exist when
y'all gathers us all this stupid division from these modern
nations and these modern cultures that were a part of
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not our original biblical culture. All right, let me continue.
But they shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines
toward the west. They shall spoil them of the east. Together,
they shall lay their hand upon eat them, and Moab
and the children of Ammon shall obey them. So that's
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why white people are panicking. We gonna y'all, y'all directing
y'all energy to the wrong people. Dud, did you have
anything that you wanted to close with or say.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Nah m hm nah. I think everything you said, everything
that needs to be said. You know it's tough.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Out here, then we're not gonna sit here and play
these games. We know that black people.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Are subdivision, So I really hope that y'all will stop. Man,
it's kind of it's cringe.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
No, we're not about to do this ship knowing that
we are actually indigenous to this world and these niggas
is new fucking evil experiment, demon baby nephilimacy. We're not
doing that. Nah, that's not what we're doing. Y'all get
your priorities right. Have this energy towards the white man,
towards the Jews, like, no, stop it. That's all I
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have to say.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
You don't like the show, oh well, peace out,