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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Found a new zombie move or show.
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Speaker 2 (01:15):
Hey, Tamra. Hey everyone. My name is Lisa Orban. I'm
an author. I'm also the founder of Indies United publishing house,
and I love all things pop culture. So if you'd
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Speaker 1 (01:31):
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Speaker 2 (01:58):
Absolutely, tamor this. This is a conversation, not a dissertation.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, no scene by scene breakdowns here. We jump around.
Huge spoiler alert for the show. We didn't play the
video game, so you don't have to worry. There's no
spoilers on that front. So if you are cool with that,
this is the place for you and we should jump
right on. And we are doing two episodes today.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yes, yes, I gotta tell you though when you ran
the intro, the music threw me a little off.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You're like, wait, what is this?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, we have done so many years of The Walking
Dead and having a particular you know music intro for
that and when she played it for you know, this
is us. While it was cool, don't get me wrong,
it threw me off just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You're like, oh wait, what's that noise? I hear you.
When I first heard it, I was like, oh, I
like it. It's creepy. We're gonna go with it.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, I did. I liked it, don't get me wrong,
kind of like I really do actually like this show.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yes, me too, I like it a lot. So oh,
oh my gosh, there's so much to talk about. Oh yeah, much.
Where should we start?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Well, I will say so. I do know that this
the show has gotten like great ratings from gamers and
non gamers alike. And I, you know, like you said before,
I haven't watched the play the video game because I
don't play games, but I have talked to a lot
of my gamer friends who have played this, and they
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are gushing about it. There they've been. They've made some modifications,
you know, from video game to the TV. But all
of the changes they've made, no one's complaining about, Like, yeah,
makes sense, I like, you.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Know, yeah, which is rare. You know, usually all adaptations,
all form of adaptations from books or comics or games,
people usually come playing, come playing complaining, but not this time.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, it's it's almost been shocking mm hm, because I
was I was really expecting. I saw so early reviews
and when we started talking about maybe doing you know,
a podcast on this. You know, it has a nice
zombie theme to it, but there are definite different zombies.
They're cool, God, they're cool.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, it's very cool.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
But I started reading the reviews from people that had,
you know, from reviewers that had gotten a sneak peek
to them, a first hand look, and they were all like, yeah,
it's good. I just want to say, how shocked I am.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, I was honestly surprised as well. I think I
was expecting a lot. I had heard that. I guess
the video game creators were involved with this adaptation, which
always is a good sign. But you know, being that
I too did not play the game and had no
desire to play the game, I said, I'm just gonna
take it as it is, as it comes, and we'll
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see if I like it. But I liked it a
lot more than I thought. Really.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, I think one of the things with the video
game creators, a lot of the changes that were made
were made to make it feel more real for this,
for the TV, or things that they wished, you know,
after upon you know, reflection of after making the game,
that they wish they had done slightly differently. Yes, So
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everything that was all these changes that were made, they
weren't They were made to make it better, you know
what I mean, And and with that same but with
that same feel because it was the original creators that
helped them come up with these changes.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, the band.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I liked that it wasn't super dark during the dark
scenes and you could actually see what was going on.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, You're like I could actually see. Yeah. They did
do a good job with that, honestly, because I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Getting really tired of sitting in a dark room with
all the lights on and on the brightest setting on
my TV to make out vague shapes.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I know, you have to rewind and rewatch, you know,
that's the whole thing. And you could hear. I didn't
have to have the caption because sometimes people whisper, are
they yeah, murmur or I don't know, and I have
to turn on the captions on some shows and I
didn't meet that with this one.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, And I like that, I mean, I I because
it's gotten so bad with these dark scenes that I've
been turning on the visually impaired.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
You're like, let me make it brighter.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
No, visually is when there's a narrator that will tell
you what's going on.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Oh no, so they're saying, Okay, they're walking in a
dark Okay, I got it. Oh no, well no, because.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I mean the the The and I really willow that
came out on Disney Plus. I watch it and like
the last two or three episodes were like in like
a dark cave kind of thing, and I had no
idea what was going on. I couldn't even make out
who the people were.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Oh no, that's not good.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And so yeah, I'm turning on the visually impaired. It
was terrible. Yeah. So anyway, but no, this show is,
I mean it has I like the feel of it.
I like the fact that on The Walking Dead they
never explained how it happened. I mean, they're kind of
going there now, but I mean it was it just
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and this one is is that not only is it
giving an explanation, the terrifying thing is it's a plausible explaination.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
It makes sense. It makes sense. Yes, And I think
that is the most that wererifying. Yeah, And honestly, for me,
it was something that I noticed instantly with the you know,
the pre title scene on both of the episodes. I'm like, Oh,
this is the thing. We're gonna keep learning little tidbits
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as we go along. And I love that aspect. Okay,
oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I mean it's not like they're giving the whole game
away or anything, but they're making you understand you know it.
They didn't just spring these these zombies monsters up and
just go figure it out. No, I mean there was
this little thing and and and and the thing of
it was is, you know, because I watch a lot
of strange stuff, and I knew about the zombie virus
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that affects a lot of insects. You know, they get
these sayings that grow out of their head and they
do weird things. So I was aware of that, and
you know, and and the fact that it's it's our
higher body temperature that prohibits these virus these not viruses,
but you know, these funguses from infecting us. Yeah. And
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then they're like, yeah, with global you know, with global
climate change and them having to adapt, and I'm like,
oh God, don't give me another thing to worry about.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Like a double dog. Dare you to say climate change
isn't real now like it was?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And I think that was probably one of the Really
I think that's that's what really made it. I don't
want to go well with plu. I mean it's plausible. Yeah,
it made it more plausible, you know, it made did
it scarier because while this was a very surreal, you know,
thing going on it, it was a real thing that
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happens in nature, just not to us, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Well, you know what else made it a little more real.
They I heard they changed the time by about ten years,
so like the game is like two thousand and three
in twenty and thirteen or something, but it's our time.
The current day is twenty twenty three. So I'm like, oh, yeah,
this makes it a lot more relevant because you know
(09:35):
we can remember ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah. Yeah. And it was the acting I thought was
phenomenal so far. The actress that they did play Ellie.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Let's pull them up. I actually pulled up the cast
because you know how we are with names.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, I was really proud that I remembered Ellie's name.
But I really liked her in Game of thrones, and
you know, she was so sassy and there's the you know,
the head of her family and stuff, and I was
so sad when she died. But I mean, I really
like and she's doing a really good job of being
(10:16):
this you know, sassy but kind of vulnerable kid.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I think that kid is pretty dangerous.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Well yeah, you have to be.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Well, I mean, and you get a little backstory from
her that you know, she's been in this military school.
You know, she was an orphan, she was placed in
the school, and her job was going to be a soldier.
So yeah, I would imagine she is a little dangerous.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
So yeah, and I think as their relationship develops, you know,
he is a father figure to her, he will be
eventually right. Yeah. I think that they are doing all
the right things to kind of set up like that
relationship is going to be hard earned.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I mean, and really I mean it. You know, when
once we you know, fast forward to the present day,
you know, every person that we see on this show
is in one way or another dangerous. There are no
there are no weaklings at this point. Everyone is either
dangerous or dead.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yes, dangerous are dead. I think that'd rather be dangerous, Yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Know, so Elie being dangerous even as young as she
is is it's not surprising since she is being groomed
to live in this world. And you have to be
dangerous and you have to make those hard calls. I
mean that that and it was heartbreaking in in the
first episode when we see this kid just kind of
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walking along, you know, by by himself, and you know,
and and and walks right up to the to the
people for help, but doesn't say anything. And because I
guess speech is one of the first things that you know,
they lose speech and the shakes and you know, different
things like that. But and you know how, I mean,
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they didn't terrify this kid while they killed him, but
there was no hesitation either. I mean there was no
soul searching. It was, oh, you're infected, you.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Know, got to die. Yeah, yes, that was actually kind
of jarring. And even like in the first episode, you know,
the main character what's the guy's name? See, look I
forgot already yeh Joel. You know, in that first opening,
you know, we see him kill someone and his daughter
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is screaming like you killed you know, she's having this reaction. Yeah,
and then present day we're seeing him throw bodies like
no big deal, picking up the kid's widdie, tossing it
in there. You know, it's like that stark difference is
like jarring.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah. Well, and it's you see him, you know, we
get to we get to see him as a as
as a father, and you can see that he was
not struggling so much to be a father, but just struggling.
You know, there was a lot going on. It was
his birthday, but there was this big job and you know,
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trying to balance you know, life as it was. And
you know, and then we get you know, his daughter,
who is you know, she's resourceful and you know she's
she's a good kid, and you know, go but stealing
his money to fix his own watch, you.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Know, I know, and what are you gonna do when
you'd have no money and have.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
No job exactly? But you know it's it's this, you know,
you can you can see that there's the there's this
love and fondness and affection there. I know that he
has this close relationship with his daughter as they sit
on the couch that evening and you know, did you
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get the cake? Forgot the cake? You know? And and
watch a movie and it's you know, it's this real
close family bond. Yeah, so it's you know, and then
to lose her like like.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
He did, it hardened him immediately. Yeah, I'm pretty sure
he turned off all the emotions pretty quick after that.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Mm hmm. And I do want to say, because we
were talking about this a coup when the first episode
came out, and I'm like, it's it's the flower. That's
what infected everyone. It's the flower.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Of course, it's like you did say that. And did
you notice they were not really eating anything bread even
in the first episode. They didn't get the cake.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Or the pancakes, or or the biscuits or or the
raisin cookies.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And then and in the opening.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
The you know, the opening for the second season or
the second episode, you know, we saw them talking about
the green storage facility where this was happening.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yes, and so the and and even the show runner
when he was talking about says that we've left bread crumbs.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
So you know, yeah, if you pay attention, you'll get it.
You'll get it.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah. So and when you you really don't, you know,
there's so there's that's pretty much how it spread so
quickly and so fast was infected flour that had gotten
shipped out as you know, things bread, biscuits, cookies, flour,
and why it hit everywhere so quickly, almost all at once, yeah,
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which is honestly a really decent way to to reasonably
spread something like that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I mean, honestly, so we had a very recent experience
with the pandemic. We know how quickly things spread. It
does not take much.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
But even that, I mean, because it was person to
person transmission, it really took months to kind of roll along,
where this basically took place within about forty eight hours
very quickly.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
And then after that, so think about like an episode two,
we got to meet that doctor and we were going
through the steps. So she's like, well, who bit this woman?
Who bit the woman who bit the guy? And they're like,
we don't know, and she's like, well, how many people
are missing? Immediately it's like oh no, she's trembling. She's like, yeah,
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it's over.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah, there is no cure, right, there's no cure. There's
no you know, we just need to stop this. And
when she's telling you and they're like, well what do
we do? Vomit? Mm hmm, you know, I mean, and
she made this cold calculation, you know, kill millions to
say billions.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Including her and her family. She's like, there's no other choice, yeah,
save everybody. But they tried, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
They did try. But you know, the problem of it
was is it was at a flower manufacturing plant, which
means what they had been making had already been more
than likely at that point had been sent out. And
because we are a world economy and flower you know,
flower production is concentrated in just a couple of areas
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really in our in the world, and so it went
out everywhere, and that's everywhere. Yeah, and it just snowballed quickly,
you know.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
So I think one thing that is still unless I
missed it, it's still not clear to me. Was just
eating the flower enough to do it. That's it. All
to do was eat the flower. That was in fact
it No nothing needed to trigger it.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I don't know. I mean, they they're they're just giving
out these little breadcrumbs and.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, because like if we go back to episode one,
and I have to say that scene when that old
lady is like eating those biscuits and they like crumbling
out her mouth, I'm looking like, oh, they're looking. Oh,
I said, don't eat those biscuits.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, they're really good. She's really eating them up.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
And what happens to her. I'm like, well, she went
to the city. She ate the biscuits, so a couple
of things, you know. They were like, oh, it's concentrated
in the city, and so I'm like, I don't know,
was there a trigger or was it just the flower.
I think they're gonna give us a clarifying answer on
that as we go along.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
They might, I do know from the from the video game.
While there are hints, they never really say. So. A
lot of the gamers are really happy because I guess
they've been trying for years to get these little breadcrumbs.
So yeah, they I think we will get more than
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they did in the video game, but even the gamers
aren't don't know for sure. Okay, so you know, we
can all be surprised together.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, did you notice? Okay? So one other thing that
I noticed immediately that I liked about their zombies is
that they have been very open with us about the
types of zombies, the levels of zombies. We're gonna know
all the things, and they at first they're fast. I'm like, whoa,
(19:47):
that's different from the Walking Dead, right, not to just
be comparing it constantly to The Walking Dead, but that
is the zombie show we've lived with for the longest, right,
So like, here's a little list. So immediately con turn
they're they're they're runners, and then a couple of days
in they're stalkers, and then a couple more weeks maybe
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they turn into these clickers. That's what they made about
a year okaylier, we learned that. In episode two we
saw them because they can't see anymore, and they're using
you know, sound a location, yes, and then they turn
into these bloating things, then shamblers, and then a rat
king apparently so I.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
The rat uh the uh, the shampa, the rat king
one of the two. They actually if they die, they
go into or they live in water.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Oh is that the bloaters or uh yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Might be the bloaters. Gross, yeah, their water born.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Let me tell you, these freaking things were so gross
to me. In episode two, I saw that thing and
I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's and I think again, it's
like one of our you know. One of the big
complaints that we had again going back to the Walking
Dead was why are some of these zombies still moving.
They should be completely decomposed by now. But with you know,
with this concept, you know, there's a living organism that's
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basically you know, living inside and it's you know, growing, growing,
and it's taking nutrition but giving nutrition as well. They're symbiotic,
and so there's a there's a reason why they can
keep going and they don't just die after whatever. You know,
so long, right, it makes it makes more sense, and
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it really does kind of fill in that gap that's
always been kind of moving or missing with the with
the zombie idea you know that we generally had is
why are they still moving around as they decompose?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, exactly, And why you know, in the Walking Dead,
why are they getting faster and jumping and stuff. Now
it's like you think it'd go the opposite way, but yeah, whatever,
I guess, you know, two different worlds, two different ideologies
as far as how they want to deal with these zombies.
(22:21):
But I really enjoyed it. I thought, uh, the the
way like the gross little things come out of their
mouth and stuff. Oh almost earled. Oh my god, that
scene when the clicker came up to test and like
put it's a mouth on her. I'm like like gross,
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you know, and it was, it was.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It was a really intense scene because you know, she's
trying to get this light. Although in my brain, I'm going,
why didn't you just pull the pin on one of
the grenades.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
It would have been easier than that messing with that lighter.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I'm just saying, you know, I'm always looking for the simple,
and uh, she's clicking that thing. But they realize that
she's infected, and so you know, in most zombie movies
and shows, her and that in between state would have
been basically run over and eaten. But instead they're like
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they recognized her as their own, and we're welcome here
into the community, you know. And there's a a consciousness
to it. There's a you know that they have this
this hive mind, which is in a lot of ways terrifying.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
It means, i mean, the you know, this kind of
fungus can grow anywhere.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, you see how they taught They explained in the
second episode how even like everything was connected. Yeah, and
like if you step on it, you know, everything kind
of just knows where to go, and all the zombies
run that way.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, and and and again, the more terrifying part is
this is a real thing. Mm hmm, my celium network.
It's a real thing where your plants, you know, trees
and plants and and fungus and you know, they they
have this interconnected thing that goes on worldwide and and
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can communicate to a certain degree. And I mean and
now it's being brought to a consciousness level. And it's
and it's and and I you know, with insects there's
a limited you know, intelligence to go behind it. And
and but now with humans, you know, and and having
you know this MRG this mergence of you know, human
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and and fungus, it's like they're taking the intelligence of
humans with a you know, there's there's this foreverness of
fungus because they don't technically die. They just keep growing.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah, it never stops. And can I just say this
scene when Ellie she's sleeping in all this grass and moss.
There is no way and how I'd be sleeping on
any grass or moss or anything.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah. And we also know that they don't particularly like light.
It won't stop them per se, but they don't like it.
And even when you know, even in their blind state,
and which isn't you know it goes along with kind
of fungay that they prefer dark, you know, damp places,
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which means the insides of most of these buildings are
a mass fact dangerous.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, they're overrun probably and well.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
And even in the city when when jol And tests
are going down this into the sewer systems and and around,
they come across one that had lived its lifespan or
whatever you want to call it, was there against the wall.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
So, I mean you're seeing them even even in a
place that's supposed to be safe. They're still there, you know,
not in massive hordes and probably aggressively taken care of,
but they're still there. I know, there's no because technically
anywhere that there's fungus could be this infection.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah. Do they ever go away? Do they ever disintegrate?
Do they ever? It's just forever and ever. They're just there.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
And you know, unlike again in The Walking Dead, they're
they're In the Walking Dead, there's always the possibility that
humans could technically win, all right, just because of the
nature of the zombies they have there. But in this show,
unless a literal cure is found, humans are on the
losing side, and they don't have much longer, and Joel
(27:10):
comments on the fact that you know, every you know,
every year, more and more people as they sneak out
of the city or try to get away from these
oppressive of your simes to try and go somewhere else,
are getting caught and turned. Yeah, you know, so just
it's a war of attrition at this point, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And the doctor, you know, in the little pre thing
at the beginning of episode one, he basically said, look,
if that happens, this is endgame. Yeah, endgame, and he
means it.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, because you know, this fungus is it's it's here,
it's everywhere, you know, you know it we live with
the funcus that can do this right now. And again
it's more for like ants and wasps and and and
insects like that, but it's and and while the the
(28:09):
insect population hasn't been massively taken over by it, I'm
wondering if it's the intelligence factor of humans that's propelling
the the rapid spread, if that makes sense, because while
it it doesn't, again, it's more of a symbiotic relationship.
(28:31):
It's I I'm not sure that the intelligence is off
because it's even that they've said that these creatures aren't stupid,
They're not unintelligent. It's just it's a they they're basically
just their their consciousness is taken over by this misinfection
and made to change kind of like you know, like
(28:55):
like when a dog gets rabies, it changes, they're freight
of water and no one knows why. But you know,
even rabies, which is just a viral infection, can change
the behavior of animals and make them act in particular
ways that you know, so we kind of know. Look rabies,
(29:18):
you know that this my celial infection is doing the
same thing.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
It just wants to grow and grow and grow and
just take over everything.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, and it doesn't seem like they they don't need
I mean, obviously having humans is important to have, and
once all the humans are gone, there may be a
collapse because they do seem to need more humans to
continue to spread.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
But they could adapt, and they could adapt it.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, I mean they could, you know, I mean it
could because the other thing that I've noticed is while
we I've seen birds, I haven't seen a single dog
or a cat or any small I haven't seen a rat.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Wait, man, I'm trying to think, did we see a
dog Noyes.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
In the very first episode, there was the neighbor's dog,
and the neighbor's dog was flipping out, and then that's
the last animal we see.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I was trying to think about the present day setting.
I'm like, I don't think I did see an animal.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, there's no horses, there's no ducks.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
We saw we.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Saw av in life. But they're different and they also
have a different metabolism than mammals do.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, well, we know they're eating meat, right, They're eating something.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
They're eating something.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
They're eating something.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Okay, because when they were talking even about the sandwich,
you know, they were talking about them what was in it,
which was apparently unusual. But yeah, I don't If there
is meat, there's not a lot of it, and I think,
you know, it's probably some kind of you know, probably
like the equivalent like rabbit, rat or some small mammal
(31:11):
that's easy to contain. But here's the thing out in
that city with no humans. In theory, we should be
seeing a lot of wildlife bears, moose, you know, anything
that escaped from a zoo.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Cats, dogs, late though we're in a city area, maybe
they're further out, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Life after people man life after people. But I mean
even discounting bigger like deer and stuff like that, I
mean cats and dogs that that area in theory should
be overrun by them.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
See.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
The only thing that is making me think not is
because how that does reacted to that. You know, he
wanted away, He didn't want to go back to that house.
So let's just assume mammals are a little bit smart
and they know danger, danger, danger, let's stay away. And
we already have been explained to basically that we have
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find bigger hordes of them basically in the city.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Right, So, I mean it is possible that they're being
you know, the wildlife has learned, you know, danger do
not pass. But I would I would imagine at this
point the might the zombies are not maybe merging with them,
but they are probably eating them if they can catch them.
Would be my gas. But again, you know, because I
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mean they are that they do have to you know,
keep the body that they have that they're inhabiting fueled.
So they're they're you know, and while they obviously prefer
humans to just spread the infection, I'm wondering if they're
also you know, keeping the animal population down.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
But that city was quiet. It was so.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Quiet because they can hear everything. Yeah, you can't make
a sound. It's like even in that scene where they're
in that old hotel and you know, Joel is telling
her they can't see, they can hear. She's breathing hard.
She's trying to catch her. You know, it's like, I
(33:31):
think it's like fear breathing right right, she makes one little,
you know, noise, and that those things were on them
like no mass business.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
You know. So I mean it's it, is it? I mean,
I will give it this. The show's intense, and I
am curious now once they're leaving Boston, I am curious
to see if they run into any animals. If we
don't see any, I'm gonna go with my theory and
that they've just wiped them out.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Mm hmmm, mm hmmm. So what do you think about
you know, two episodes and we've lost two characters already.
I honest for me, but you know, I was really
looking forward to seeing what Tessa's character could have been.
I've loved her. And what's that show I watched?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Oh my gosh. It was on the tip of my tongue.
Freaking It started with an f Oh my gosh, I
can't think of it now, but I loved her in
this other show I watched, and I'm like, no, I
wanted to see more Anna Tor and more stuff, and
she's gone already. I think that character had so much potential.
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What do you think about them just killing people already?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Well, I do know that Tessa's death is in.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Line with the video game, Sure it is, but see and.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
The only differences is in the video game she was
killed by the military people, uh huh. And in this
one they made her death, as they put it, more noble.
But uh I, I don't really hate I liked her character.
I really did. But I'm gonna be real truthful. For
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the first time she was on the screen like she's
a goner.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
So I didn't get real attached to her because even
without actually having watched the video games, and I found
out I think it was like yesterday or today, you know,
it was after i'd watched the second episode that she
was that's in line with the video games. I'm like, yeah,
she's she's just she's not gonna make it. Although I
do want to, I do want to mention one thing
(35:43):
that happened at the at the end of the first
episode that the radio came on and started playing eighties music.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
And I'm going is that his brother?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Maybe it could be his brother. It probably likely is
his brother, and.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
He wasn't there to get the message.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
No, he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
And if it's eighties music, you can assume that it
was important.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
So let me just find out so I know what
kind of level I need to be preparing for this show.
Are you gonna be seeking out video game comparisons to
what they're doing? Are you gonna just watch it as
it is?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I'm watching it. Basically. What I've been doing is I've
been watching it as it is. But I do I
subscribe to like a news program, and generally, like the
day after it airs, the stuff came on and I
had an hour to kill before we did, and there
was just a whole bunch of There was a whole
(36:45):
bunch of articles. So I was killing time.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Okay, because I'm like, how much do I need to read?
Because I was trying to decide, like how maybe we
could have two types of opinions, you know, because I
feel like how pure do I want to be in
this right. Like, I know, at the beginning, we learned
a lot upfront about this show because of the video game,
and it was everywhere. You really couldn't avoid it, right,
(37:11):
But now I'm trying to think, do I just want
to watch this game as a you know, purist quote
unquote new to me, or do I want to dig
in and see what the original material was.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I haven't read anything. I've avoided anything that might give
me spoilers for a head. So, like, I didn't know
the test would die in the second episode, but like
I said, the minute, I as soon as she was
on the screen, I don't know why. I'm like, and
I and saw that she was connected to Joel and stuff, I'm.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Like, man, she's a goner.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
She's a goner. And I mean, now, part of that
also had to do with the fact that in every
trailer I had seen, it was just him and the kid.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I'm like, yeah, so what indicse they're alone?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Right, And so that was probably you know, coloring my
you know why. But yeah, I'm like, man, she's not
long for this role. And because it is what eight episodes,
I figured she'd have to be dead by the second
third at the latest. So I'm not trying to read
ahead and I'm not trying to go out of my
(38:25):
way to find stuff. But like I read read an
article about what was it the different types of zombies?
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, that was kind of everywhere on the onset too.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah, so you know, I haven't done based you know,
I haven't watched any YouTube. I haven't done a deep dive.
But after the episode's air, you know, if it doesn't
look like it's going to contain any spoilers outside of
the episode I just watched, then that I've been allowing
myself to read it.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Okay, that's good because I mean, honestly, I think had
I watch this Sunday night, I would have probably seen
a lot more too. But because I watched it later
in the day today, you know, I was busy. I
didn't have any time to really be looking at any
of those articles.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Not right, And since we started we recorded a half
hour late, I had basically an hour to kill, so
I was just like, yeah, and I wasn't going and
looking for the articles. It's just everyone is talking about
this show.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yes, which is you know why we're doing it the
day after you know, we started a week late. But
you know, we're on it. We want to be like
everybody else. We wanted you to be able to listen
and here what we think immediately right after so.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
And and like I'm not gonna my plan is not
to try and spoil it for myself by reading ahead,
because I don't think that's any fun.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
No, you know, because then we can't really make you know,
guesses and hoses and things like that, because you know,
like you know, I'm gonna say, hopefully for the last
time this hour, like what the Walkie did, we didn't
read the comics, right, So, and of course at some
point that show went beyond the comics. So if this
show ends up being good, maybe they'll go beyond the
(40:13):
video game.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Well, and I will say too, because I know about
ten people that have played this game and have watched
the show. There have been a lot of discussions, so
you know, again, that's part of where it's not just
been the news stuff. It's been my friends going, oh
my god, you know they did this, and I mean
and apparently according to my friends, you know, from the
(40:36):
clothes to the set scenes, to the weapons they use,
the food they're eating, the all of that, even some
of the particular camera shots are mirrored exactly as they
are in the video game.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
You know, that doesn't surprise me at all, being that
you know, the creators of the game were just as involved,
you know what I mean, they were really involved. Oh.
I just remember the show that Anna Torf was on.
She was on Fringe. I loved Fringe.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Oh I loved Fringe too, your right show.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
And so I'm like it starts with enough.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Well, I mean I think friends. Yeah, Oh, I love French.
Oh that was such a great show.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
I know I actually would rewatch that, honestly, but anyway.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Yeah, but yeah, but I do think because I will say,
part of what a lot of what a lot of
people like with The Walking Dead and and other adaptations
is the directors have taken too much you know, latitude
(41:47):
with with the working material.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Mm hmmm. They think they can make it better instead
of just using the source material, right.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
And I'm not saying that, you know, sometimes it is.
Know I'll say, like like one specific scene from like
Jurassic Park that never could have played out like in
the book, which is when they're in the jeep and
the the t Rex is chasing them and Malcolm is
basically going you know, faster, faster. We must go faster,
(42:20):
and in the mirror you see objects in the mirror
maybe closer than they appear.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
M hmm.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Okay, that was a nice little, you know, addition that
couldn't be in the book. So when you do things
like that, that's that's cool and it's fun. And that's
kind of what they've done here with This is Us
or The Last of Us.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
But it's like they're hitting the right notes. They're expanding
on the things.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Yeah, whereas you know, like with The Walking Dead or
Game of Thrones, you know, or a lot of these
other adaptations. You know, the biggest complaint people have is
they're playing far too fast and loose with the source material,
that they're just going way off book.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
So it's like they forget there's a reason why they
picked to bat source material to begin with.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Right, Oh, well, you know, okay, well we'll take all
the names and we'll kind of put them in the
same location sorta, and you know, will kinda do some
things like that, but then we're gonna do our own thing.
I'm like, no, that's gonna piss people off, right, Right,
So I think they've hit this really nice middle ground
between being true to the source material while still making
(43:26):
it fresh enough that, you know, people that have enjoyed
the games can still be shocked and surprised by what's
going on.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
And I think that's because, like the beginning, little you know,
tidbits that they're giving us is not part of the game,
you know, and the in the game, it's spores that
like linger in the air is how, you know, part
of how they can infect people or let other or
let other creatures know that that there's someone there. And
(43:58):
they've changed that to actually touching the spores on the ground,
you know, the tendrils, which I think makes more sense
because spores in the air would just be pushed wherever
the air goes.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Right, you know, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
So these little changes they make make they make sense,
mm hmm. So they're they're they're staying true the spirit
of it, not just the letter of it.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
So you know, let me just say, when I'm watching this,
especially with episode two, I felt like at times I
was watching a video game, because while I'm not a
traditional gamer per se, I haven't played this game. I
have been playing some games like in the since COVID, right,
(44:43):
and like I could see some of these scenes in
a video game, like as they're standing in a certain way,
or they're creeping through the building. I know those are
video game scenes. I know they Yeah, as Tessa is
going and trying to find a way to open the
(45:04):
door for them, you know, I'm sure that's in the
video game. And I don't even have to play it,
so I'm watching this with a different lens. I think
knowing is a video game.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah, I mean, and for you is here because like
I said, I don't play any games at all now.
It's but it's not that I haven't seen him, because
my boyfriend is an avid gamer, you know, so Fallout.
I watched him play all of Fallout because he was
dedicated to that.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
You want to know what game I've been held prisoner
too for years of my life. H Halo.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
And that's also a TV show, yes.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
And actually the Halo fans rip that show apart.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
I know I watched it, but I never I'd never
watched anyone play it before, and I can't. Looking at
my boyfriend who had played, I'm like, I'm pretty sure
these were supposed to be the good guys, right, He's like, yeah,
you all the good guys like Kevin.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Okay, so Kevin kept saying, I cannot stand how much
he's taking his helmet off in the game. His helmet
never ever comes off.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah. So and now for me, it didn't none of
these things bothered me at all because I had never
even watched the game, so I had nothing to compare
it to. And and since I've never watched this game
being played, Yeah, I'm not bothered by any of these things.
But I gotta tell you, it's creepy, and it's it's
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it is a kind of this fresh take on an
on an old theme that I really am enjoying.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
So yeah, good times. I mean, this is gonna be
a good ride. I think I can't believe we're already
down two episodes. These these episodes are moving forward, which
I also like.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Yeah, I was gonna say what the other thing I
really do like about there's not a lot of slow.
I mean, every moment in there almost it seems like
it has some significance, So we don't there's there's not
I mean there's a little maybe a little filler here
and there, but for the most part, everything is there
because it needs to be there.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yes, and because there's a tie.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
You know, and I will say too, because they are
sneaking things in. It could be that something that we
think is just like a filler could later on actually
have some significance. Who knows. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
You know. I'm also like, on a side note, let
me just say I'm excited to see a couple of
characters and why.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
So.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
For example, I am so excited to see who this
Kathleen character is played by Melanie Lynsky. That woman is
the bomb. She plays in Yellow Jackson Jackets and other shows.
She is so good. I love Yellow Jackets. Have you
watched it?
Speaker 2 (48:07):
No, I don't have that streaming service.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Oh my god, it's so damn good. And then also,
whoever Maria Miller is gonna be? I love Retina Wesley.
She is from True Blood Days. She's been in other stuff,
but she was in True Blood. Did you watch True Blood?
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (48:25):
I did, so you recognize her face?
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
I'm excited to see some of these characters. I'm like, oh,
I haven't seen this act these actresses, you know, in
this type of setting, you know, zombies and stuff. So
I'm like very excited. I'm like hyped. I'm like, okay,
even Ashley Johnson. I recognized her from like FBI shows
and stuff, so I'm like, oh, what is she gonna be?
And Nick Offerman, I mean he's like a comedian, right,
(48:51):
Like what.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Yeah, Well, and I get I'm liking the idea that
in some ways, you know, like The Walking Dead was idealistic. Oh,
we're going to try and build this community, and you know,
and this one is so much darker. Hi, We're the
oppressive force that keeps you alive to deal with it,
you know, right, And and the thing of it is is,
(49:17):
I mean you got to give it to them. For
twenty years they have kept it more or less running
apparently through a lot of contraband, but you know, it
is it's you know, this is a society that is
it's where people are well again. You know, either they're
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dangerous or they're dead. And these are all dangerous people
that are doing whatever they need to to survive personally.
The one thing, I mean a little bit among the fireflies,
but that the one thing that I've noticed that is
very much missing from this from the other shows is
the sense of community. There is no sense of community here.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
Not yet, not yet yet, Because you know, he's looking
he also his his goal is to find his brother, right.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Right, But that's not community, that's family.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Yes, but you know his brother is with people, he's
not alone. He's gonna be with the community. So I
don't know, I'm jury's out, and I still feel like
they will become each other's family, Ella and Joel, So wow, Yes,
it's not like almost an instant ready made family like
(50:33):
with the Walking Dead. They came together pretty quickly and
just pretty quickly, but I.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Was taking more of the bigger groups. You know, there's
and we do know that the military regime that that
they're under is not just.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
There, right, we know they're all over, They're all over.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
You know, in any places that they've been able to
keep a hold out. And then then there's the fireflies
that is also sprinkled throughout all of their communities as well.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Yes, the RU and I guess right say, and you.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Know, in this type of scenario, you would think that
if there was a better place to go that was
a little more or less oppressive, the fireflies would just
go there. So that tells me that this is not
a place it is community building. They are all still
very much in survivor mode and that's it. It's just survive.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Well, I mean, think about it. They explained to us
that all the major cities pretty much look like Boston,
because yeah, it's huge concentration of people. They were bombing stuff,
trying to keep back, you know, the spread.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
And test didn't say, actually, she's like, you know, they
bombed all over it, but it didn't work like it
did in Boston, which tells me that Boston, as bad
as it is, is not as bad as maybe other
places because apparently the bombings allowed them to retreat enough
to build fortifications.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Yes, and also I also love that she was from.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Detroit, so yeah, yeah, I figured you'd like that part.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
I'm like, no, she died, of course.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
But I gotta tell you I'm one. I mean, I
really do want to know how did Joel go from
Texas to Boston.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
I know, I mean that it took a long way,
a long time, probably.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
Well, but I'm also wondering if maybe they're at the
beginning of this, that there might have been like based
mercy flights to say locations maybe, you know, and why
you know, him and his brother were close obviously, and
why they how he ended up in Boston his brother
ended up in Michigan.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
No, his brother's like in Wyoming or Wyoming.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
I'm sorry, yeah, Wyoming. You know, but how did they
end up so far apart?
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Yeah, because they were together at the beginning. So I'm
guessing hopefully we'll get some flat backs of this kind
of showing us this journey.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
M hmm, yeah, because, like I said, I'm just kind
of curious if maybe there was like again Mercy flights,
and he got separated from his brother and they were
relocated to different places. Yeah, or something like.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
That, he said. So Joel said something to the what's
her name, Marlena or whatever, the head of the Fireflies
people at that location. He said, like she he was
upset that, you know, he took they took her his
brother away. So I feel like they were probably together
in Boston at some point and he was involving himself
(53:36):
with the Firefly group and then he left maybe maybe
like a mission or something.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
Yeah, I guess, yeah, because you know, like I said,
I mean, even you know that this isn't you know,
the inside these cities, it's not again. Everyone is just
that they are surviving. You know, no one is living.
And I get it because this is a situation where
everyone has to stay on guard all the time. You know,
(54:10):
these these aren't these aren't an exterior threat because you know,
as I said, you know, we've seen them inside the walls.
We haven't seen any rats, and I'm not gonna let
that one go. We'll see if I'm right. But yeah,
so this is you know, I'm really interested to see
(54:32):
because as we know that he is going to travel
to try and get her to where she needs to go,
which means that we were going to see different communities
and different people and stuff. So I'm really curious to
see if this, you know, the the lack of sense
of community is almost a universal thing, or if this
is just for these communities, or you know, I'm curious
(54:55):
to see how people have aligned themselves, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
Yeah, there's honestly, there's a lot to cover in the
next six episodes. I wonder how much we'll be revealed
before the end of the season and how much we're
gonna get. I know it's gonna get a season two.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
Uh there, I guess they're already I'm gonna go with
it's it's already been greenlit, just not officially because everyone's
still talking about you know, even the showrunners, you know,
and say in season two, we'll hit on these other themes.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
Well, here's a little fact for you. The Last of
Us scored HBO's second best debut of the last decade
on Sunday night, with four point seven million viewers tuning
in for the premiere.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
Yeah, and those numbers have, you know, as far as
I I as a matter of fact, when I went
to I tried to watch it last night, mm hmm.
Initially around like I guess, about ten minutes or so
after it first started, because you know HBO, you know,
on demand, I couldn't get it to go, So like, okay,
(56:01):
no problem, you know, come back in an hour. Still couldn't.
It just timed out. At eleven o'clock, it timed out again,
And then then I was dumb and I went over
to Hulu because it's it's also connected to my Hulu,
and I was able to watch it through Hulu. But
(56:21):
you know, I wish I had thought of that before
eleven o'clock.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
Yeah, but so, uh, let's see.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
But I do know that it crashed several servers trying.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
People people watching.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
Yeah, yeah, it crashed HBO servers at different times.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
So can you guess what the number one slat is
for the biggest premiere, Lord of the Rings. Nope, it
was well on HBO specifically. Oh oh no, I don't
know House of the Dragon.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
Oh okay, that yeah, that doesn't surprise me at.
Speaker 1 (56:59):
All that I think nine million or something crazy.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
That's right, that's right, that's on HBO. I was thinking
House of the Dragon for some reason was on Amazon.
But that's Lord of the Rings. Never mind, I had
them backwards.
Speaker 1 (57:12):
Has some crazy amount. Because yet, honestly, these shows are killed.
They're killing it right now. They're spending this money there
these shows. These shows have huge budgets, acid nine budgets.
You wonder why the cost of your streaming service went up.
Speaker 2 (57:29):
Yeah, but you know, they also spend a lot of
money on or they spend little amounts of money on
their shows, right, they're filler shows exactly.
Speaker 1 (57:44):
Yeah. So is there anything else we should cover we're
coming up on the hour or any other you know?
Speaker 2 (57:50):
I mean, I do like the I do like the
fact that they have a test for the you know,
so far, no cure, you know, no treatments, but they
do have a test that if you're you know, infected
or not, which is you know, that's cool?
Speaker 1 (58:06):
I mean, does it? Yeah? Test is good, you know,
test is great, but you're gonna tell and momentarily something
is wrong. But sure, yeah, and uh.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
And I did also find it interesting that even even
the guards you know, who probably have a better you know,
have access to better food, et cetera, et cetera than
the general population, are still heavily reliant on smugglers. Smugglers, yeah,
for just about everything. So that that also tells me
that this is not a well functioning society.
Speaker 1 (58:45):
You know what else I wonder just offhand, like how
many more children are immune? I feel like more are
It's not just Ellie.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
It could be. But then again, in most cases, as
soon as it happened, they're immediately killed or not they don't.
Speaker 1 (59:03):
So you never know. You never get a chance to know,
because they kill everybody exactly.
Speaker 2 (59:07):
I'm not sure either I missed it or they didn't
explain why what's your name? Kept Ellie alive? You know,
to to watch or if she has been doing this
with more, if she has been doing this with multiple people,
it's just Ellie's the only one that's actually made it.
Speaker 1 (59:30):
Well. I know that Marlene's character said you were safe
there until you ran away, right, So that is one difference.
If she does have multiple people she's watching or have
put you know, in a quote unquote safe space to hide,
they didn't break out of anywhere. So she is exposed now,
(59:50):
so they have to do something with her.
Speaker 2 (59:53):
Yeah, you know, but you know so yeah, I'm you know,
so even if there were more immune people, just because
because of the instant action that anyone would take, and
and because there's never up to this point been a cure,
you know, an idea of a cure, or you know
that that's just out of the realm of possibility for everyone.
(01:00:15):
You know, there might have been other people that that
testing positive but wouldn't have turned but because they wouldn't wait,
because we know that as soon as someone gets that
that negative, they're instantly put down. Oh yeah, so there's
no way of knowing whether or not they would have.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
At least they give the kid kids an illusion of
happiness before they die.
Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
But I'm sure that that they do that for you know,
any any person, adult child.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Really, those soldiers were about to kill them immediately.
Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Yeah, but I mean, as far as you know, it's
the same. You know, if they're brought in and they're
not violent at that point they test or they test positive.
My guess is is, oh, okay, you know we just
need to you know, this one thing we need to
give you a booster or whatever is probably what they
do and but killed instantly so that you know, even
(01:01:09):
if it's only a point one percent or point zero
one percent of the population is immune to it, the
odds of them getting infected and then surviving long enough
for anyone to notice that they're not turning is probably
next to nothing, you know. So, I mean, she might
not be the only one. It's just she's the only
(01:01:31):
one that's managed to make it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Right? Hmmm, Okay, Well we shall see how things shake out.
Eight more episodes. Yeah, so I think we'll end things there.
What do you think we so?
Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
I think so?
Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
All right, So we will be back here again next
week to talk about episode three and so forth through
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