Nessa's November Halloween Spectacular

My friend; The Recess Bell's very own Nessa joins me to discuss the scariest scenes in movie history, our favorite horror icons, a breakdown of the Evil Dead series, and a whole lot more!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This production is brought to you by the Recess Bell
Oh right, everybody, this is film Reel right here on
the Recess Bell Network. My name is Justin Greenberg, and
I'm joined by the lovely Nessa. How are you?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
How are you? Guys? Finally I get to be on
an episode with the spectacular Justice.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Wow, and this is It's perfect that we're recording our
Halloween special on November. What is it the second second?
I mean when I think of Halloween and horror movies,
it's always November, right, So we did a fantastic job
getting this here. But we're gonna have some fun today.
We're gonna be talking about our favorite horror movies, what

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got us into horror, best icons in the history of
the genre, and then we're gonna do a little recap
of the Evil Dead series. But I don't even know
anything about you, Nessa, because this is my first time
meeting you. And you know what, what what is your story?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Get like a quick, like three minute synopsis of you.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, for sure. So again, my name is Ernessa, but
you know you guys can call me Nasa. How I'm
even here to begin with is because I do the
album reviews on our turntables section of the Recess Bell.
I started doing that by actually reconnecting with our greatest

(01:30):
man ever, Josh the Leader. The Leader the Man, so
I had went to high school with him. We did
some reconnecting and I ended up doing some album reviews
for the website. There'll definitely be a new one coming
up soon on Tyler the Creator's album Chromacopeia. Uh. And
I definitely have a lot of stuff to talk about

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like with that, especially because I find an annoy but
nonetheless in terms of just knowing at me, the reason
why I'm even honest episode is because I'm a huge,
huge horror fan. So that's definitely something that you guys
should should know about me, big horror fan for a
long time, like since I was young. So there's that

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just in general, like about me and enjoying like I
enjoy to go out with like friends, family.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Like long walks on the beach.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, even that, there's nothing about like just being next
to the water, just seeing the feeling the air just
just hit your face, the sand in like every possible place.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
It's the best. And and you know, we're recording on
Long Island and we have had this random surge of
warm weather in the last like two weeks.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, it's actually been throwing me off. I kind of
hate it. I always was like a transition.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Halloween was like eighty degrees. Yeah, it's insane. Yeah. So
I've been going to Jones Beach as much as possible.
I lived there there. Okay, that's my second home is
Jones Beach. But you mentioned music that's like your big thing.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, yeah for sure, So let's let's.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
You know, we like to have a d d on
on the show, and we love it here, so we're
just gonna like deviate from from Eventually we'll get to
the horror section. Yeah. Top musicians of all time? Oh man,
just like you know a few that come to mind.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I think maybe my favorite like rappers or like maybe
like top three, probably like nas Kanye West. Uh, it's
not really like a favorite. Uh. Kanye West is my
favorite for sure. But the next person I'm about to
say it was jay Z. I don't think he's like
really a favorite of mine, but I do think like
what he did for the game of rap is very significant,

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so I will mention him as like probably like the
top three is.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Rap, that's your genre that you focus on.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
I think rap is like rap is definitely like one
of my favorite genres. I listened to a lot of
different genres. Actually, I'm very into you know, like rap,
hip hop, R and b afrobeats like even I'm actually
you know, like I'm I come from a Caribbean background.
I'm Haitian, so I'm definitely into Haitian music like my culture. Also,

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just I'm a big fan of like dance, hall of
Reggae and like things like that too. So definitely listen
to a lot of different music. You know, I got
some Emao music going on. You know, I gotta cry sometimes. Yeah,
you know we all night will be the night over again,
over again.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Listen to this. I'm gonna blow your mind. My name
is Justin. Then I'm here to say we're gonna talk
horror on film real today.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Uh yeah, yeah that's Do you like those ad libs?

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah? Like the flavor flavor of exactly.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
That's what I have to do.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
And music is so important when it comes to movies.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Actually, oh for sure. The soundtracks just make the movie
feel more like I don't even know, like you feel
more involved for some reason. It just makes it. It
makes a difference for sure.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
If you take a movie like Jaws and you don't
have the iconic music to go along with it, you're
not gonna be in terror. You're not gonna feel that suspense.
And then there's actual like soundtrack music when they when they,
you know, like Gardens of the Galaxy in recent years
has done a great job of getting these seventies you know,
pop hits and implementing it into the story. Music can

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change the way a movie is.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
It could change the entire scene and the vibe of it.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
I get goose bumps from from certain musical cues. Now
I love the movie feel to dreams, and if it
doesn't have James Horner's score behind it, I'm not gonna
feel that emotion. I'm not gonna get those goosebumps. Hey Dad,
you're gonna have catch. I'd like that. That's the That's

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the beauty of music. So why don't we? When don't we? Segue?
Now back to the the movie talk? So how did
you initially get into horror? I'll briefly tell my quick
story as to like the the origins of horror, and
I think this is probably for a lot of kids.
They probably were introduced to it from cartoons, whether it's

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something like Scooby Doo, whether it's something like a Simpson's
Treehouse of Horror episode. A lot of Nickelodeon shows had
horror based even like parodies of things like Frankenstein and Dracula,
and you really didn't watch those movies per se, but
you knew the characters because of cartoons. So for me,

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I think shows like there was a Ghostbuster's cartoon, there
was a Beagle Juice cartoon, stuff like that was sort
of the the building blocks into my eventual watching the
actual movies that these properties are based on. But I
think cartoons from me, and I think a lot of
people were that first. You know, foray into into horror.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Line that is such a beautiful like story of just
how horror basically like starts, especially with like with children,
and it always starts in what you're watching, right. So
with that being said, my my like how I got

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into horror definitely wasn't I don't think it was the
best way because I went straight into it. Oh, I
went straight into it. My mom and I watched horror
stuff like growing up, right, so we was watching stuff
like paranormal activity. I'm like seven, like watching this, I'm
watching paranormal activity movies. I'm watching like like different like

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killer type of series. Like there's a show called Killer
Kids and it's literally just like little documentaries about like
kids that like Guilder Parents or like something crazy or
I'm watching like I survived, I watching shows like that
and just like anything that was on like those type
of networks. I mean, my mom was always watching, Like
I remember watching the old school like horror movies like

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We Got Chucky, you know, Scream, Halloween, like all the
good stuff, the good classics, just a lot of movies
that came from the nineties and stuff like that. So
growing up, even when I played, because I was playing
video games too, So I was playing like scary shit
in the video games too. Yeah yeah, yeah, Like I

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literally don't know anyone else that was playing like Resident
Evil at seven, so I was doing that.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah. Yeah, I didn't even think about video games, but
they definitely are frightening, especially if you're playing them by
yourself in the dark at like oh u im playing
something like Doom as a kid, for me is definitely
something that sparked a lot of fear in my mind
and imagination. For sure. Doom for the sixty four Big Jaguar,

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the best dome ever. Let's talk about some of those
classics you mentioned. You're like, oh, those old movies from
the nineties. I'm just the old man, I suppose, because
to me those are like my childhood classics. But I
guess you know, you're a bit younger than me. So
the nineties for me was a pivotal time for horror

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movies because, for sure, the eighties was very schlocky, meaning
it was a lot of goofy stuff, a lot of sequels.
You know, there was like five Friday the Thirteenth and
a bunch of Nightmare on Elm Streets, and they really
became cheesy and corny. And in the early nineties in particular,
there was a lot of goofy stuff happening in the
horror landscape. Now every now and then you'd get a

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Silence of the Lambs that would, you know, be an
Oscar caliber type of movie. But for the most part,
when you thought of nineties horror, it was actually a
lot of crappy stuff, stuff like the Leprechaun series, which
you know, is fun, goofy stuff, but it's not good
per se. But then in the mid nineties, the movie
Scream came out, and that sort of rejuvenated the horror

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you know world, because that that sort of poked fun
at the genre itself. It was very breaking the fourth
wall sort of thing and pointing out all the flaws
and cliches with horror movies. And that's Wes Craven, who
also directed Nightmare on Elm Street. He's, you know, a
genius when it came to horror properties. But Scream is

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definitely one that jumps to mind of like changing the game.
Because every time there's something that is popular, you're always
gonna have imitators, whether it's in music or television and
movies in particular. But there were so many cheap imitators
from Scream, stuff like I Know what you did last summer.
A lot of a lot of things that weren't up

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to that caliber, but Scream, just to go back to
even Halloween, just because Halloween just passed, that was one
of those costumes. The ghost Face Killer is like such
an iconic costume, even so much so that in twenty
twenty four I opened my door for trick or treaters

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and there was a ten year old boy with the
ghost Face mask and It actually made me so happy
because I remember being ten years old and seeing those
mess there and it stood the test of time. That's
a property that's almost thirty years old at this point,
and they're making another one. There's gonna be another Scream
coming out in a few weeks. So we got our

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introduction of horror. We got a you know, an introduction
of nessa as well. So let's get into our favorite
horror icons of all time. And I'm not gonna put
ghost Face on there just because he changes. It's not
one ghost face, you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
A killer, multiple different ghosts exactly. If I'm not mistaken.
Scream six was the most recent one. Yes, yeah, So
with that most recent one, it's like there's like seventeen
go yeah in there. So it's like it's it's crazy,
like how it's I feel like it's becoming more jocular now. Actually,
I feel like it's becoming a little bit more funny.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely a tongue in cheek at times.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
If I'm going with my my favorite horror icons of
all time, and I'm gonna put a wild card in there,
one that I think people might not actually think of
as a horror icon. So I'm gonna start off with
with Freddy Krueger.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Welcome to.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Freddy Krueger. To me, if I'm picking eighties icons, I
gotta go with Freddy because he was that first icon
to really bring comedy to the genre because it is
it is funny. I think the I think comedy and
horror go hand in hand because when you get scared
a lot of times you laugh right after it. Even

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if you're going like a haunted house, you're gonna have
that scream and then that sort of laughter. So to
have Freddy Krueger do that in the movies, I love it,
and it's so creative. His kills are creative. He is
frightening when he needs to be. But to me, you know,
I'd rather have a character like Freddy Krueger where you
get to, you know, hear him talk because a lot

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of these other killers they're they're silent yeaeople like Jason
Michael Myers. They're not They're not talking shit per se.
And that's what I love about Freddy Krueger. But if
I am gonna pick one of the silent killers, and
there's a few, there's leather Face, there's Michael Myers, but
I'm gonna go with Freddy's counterpart, Jason Vorhees. Jason just

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a really cool design. Yeah, and I mean the Hockey Mass,
the Giant Body. A lot of his movies are terrible,
I know.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
The movie like like, they're terrible, but but they're fun.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
They're good movies to have on in the background if
you're at like a Halloween party, having a few beers
and then you just look up every now and then
and watch Jason slice someone's head off. So that's I
love just that aspect of horror movies is the fact
that you don't have to take it so seriously. I
mean there are ones that you know, things like The

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Exorcists that you know takes it the genre seriously, but
something like like you know, the Nightmare on elm Street movies,
the Friday the Thirteenth movies, they're more goofy, funny, friendly
sort of things. Here's my wild card though. This is
one I don't think a lot of people think of
it as a horror film, but to me, especially being
a four year old kid in theaters watching this, it

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definitely scarred me. And that would be the dinosaurs from
Jurassic Park Jurassic Park. That's actually they scared the hell
out of me so much so to this day that
I still have recurring nightmares of dinosaurs. But I love it.

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I love it. It's like I'm afraid of it, but
I can't help but watch it. And as a kid,
that movie, you know, was a juggernaut. It was the
highest grossing movie of all time at the time of
its release, and I had all the toys. I would
rewatch it on VHS all the time. But those scenes
of the t Rex attacking the little kids, the Veloci,

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raptors in the kitchen attacking the little kids. And I
mentioned little kids because you know, I always they are
little kids in those scenes, and I think that's what
made it so frightening, because I was a little kid
at the time, and you put yourself in those kids' shoes.
Right in majority of horror movies, it's you know, like
an eighteen year old blonde chick. So it's like, how
does a little kid like relate to this? But if

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the fact that Jurassic Park had kids in it, it
felt more threatening, especially when you're young, young in watching it.
So those would be my three the dinosaurs. Freddy Krueger
and Jason Vorhiz, do you have a horror icon that
stands out for you?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah? I do have some. I know for sure. I
have to actually take this little TANGI real quick and
just mention that if I had the powers of SpongeBob
from that episode when he was just going into other
people's dreams, I would I would love to jump into
your dream just one time, just to see what these
dinosaurs are.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Oh my god, to.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
See what's going on and like just quickly just tap
out and be like just being there for like five
minutes and then just be like, all right, this actually
is like freaking terrifying. I do have to get out
of here. But in terms of my favorite horror icons,
I mean, we definitely already spoke about it a little bit.
Like I actually was a big fan of Michael Myers.

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I think as of recently, the more recent Halloween movies
have been just getting definitely like really ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, it's like getting bad now, and he's getting bad.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
And he's supposed to be like eighty years old and
he's like fighting five hundred people and yeah he's.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Built like he's like thirty five and like No, it's
like it's it's so crazy. And even with how the
the town or like how do people react, Like I
feel like I don't know, like I know what horror
movies like, especially when it's about like someone being like
chased down, like they have to they kind of have
to do stupid shit, like they have to kind of
like fall or they have to like be like, oh

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my gosh, I he's coming, like be slow, not really
like thinking. I know they're trying to imitate like what
it's like to be in like a fight or flight
type of feeling or like feel like that fear, but
oh my gosh, like they the the way the people
are acting in the Michael when Michael Myers is around,
or just in general in the more recent Halloween movies,
it's just been absolutely just horrific. Like I'm just like, bro,

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like this is worse than like knowing that there's someone
behind the door and you're gonna go to that door
anyway and try to open it and be like, oh man,
we have to investigate like some Scooby do shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, It's just.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I don't know, like they're just going like they're they're
going so dumb right now, but I still do love
Michael Myers and just the idea of it, and like
their earlier movies. I would say Halloween started being bad
after the twenty eighteen one. After twenty eighteen one, I
was like, all right, not like eighteen. That one was no,
I love it.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, I like that one.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
I love that one. I'm saying like, after that, yeah, yeah,
After the twenty eighteen it was just well, I was
I was so over it.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
They made him because when Michael Meyers started out in
the first movie from nineteen seventy eight, he was realistic.
He was like, Okay, this is a guy. There's no
real supernatural elements to it. Now he gets shot at
the end of the movie a few times, but and
he gets up and you don't know where he is,
but he could be wearing a bulletproof vest. But they've
made him the supernatural being, which I think takes away

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from the the fear because I hate to break it
to you, guys, that stuff isn't real. But there are
real murderers. So that's why that original Halloween was so good,
because it was like, there are people that do this,
There are people that just go nuts for the sake
of going nuts And there was no motivation for Michael
Ires in that original movie. He just he just killed

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his sister as a kid and then got you know,
institutionalized and escaped and just killed more people for years
and years and years. But that that mask used to
scare the crap out of me. I remember renting a
movie at a very young age and they had a
preview for Halloween h two O, which was I think
the sixth movie in the series. Yeah, and there was

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a trailer for it and it had Laurie, you know,
played by Jamie Lee Curtis meeting Michael Myers again and
they're like.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Face to face.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
It was like a door in between it. And that
scared the crap out of me.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
I don't know if I will say the design of
Michael Myers, I just I mean.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Just the white blank expression super super frightening, and it's
based off of people probably might know this if they're
horror buffs. Uh, the actor William Shatner from Star Trek.
That was that was a Star Trek William Shatner, you
know mask.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I didn't even know.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah. Then they just you know, changed a few things
here and spray painted it. And that was the iconic
Michael Myers mess.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Oh shit, I didn't even know that. Yeah, yeah, just
like random facts, like random fun facts like I love that.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Now you got any other icons?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, so definitely him. I actually really liked
Hell Raiser. I have such sights to show you. I know,
that's an old, old movie. Like it's not like that
that old you know, it's just it's from the eighties.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Eighties.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, late eighties.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
First two are really good.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, the hell Raiser, like just the creepiness of it all.
Like I feel like it was like an acid trip
like watching them, Like I know, I didn't. I actually
didn't watch them like when I was young. I actually
watched them as an adult, but it was like more
of like my early twenties that I actually like seen
them and everything, and it kind of just made me
realize especially like from the eighties, like how much like
there's definitely like the whole like all right, like we

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got our big killers, our big murderers and every thing,
but looking at stuff like Hell Raiser and eventually when
we get into the Evil Dead series, like how they
had such a focus on gore and all this blood
and like just being gross and like using that as
like a tactic of horror.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
And it's all practical effects. You know, this is before CGI,
so it's miniatures, it's prosthetic makeup. It's yeah, it's it's there.
And I think that that stands the test of time,
especially if you watch early CGI, that stuff ages terribly.
It looks like place, it looks crazy graphics. But those
effects from you know, the hell Raiser series, they look

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really good almost forty years later. Yeah, I love so
the character Penhead, And.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
I was about to say Pinhead definitely one of my
my favorites because seeing that, I'm just like.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Whoa, And it scared the crap out of me. And
I didn't watch the movies either until much later on,
but you would see the trailers and they would they
would legitimately keep me up at night. It's something about
a lot of these characters have like pale white faces.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, ghostly Yeah, and you could tell like you're just
not sure if this is like an actual person or not.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Like that movie is sick and twisted. It's got some
like sexuality stuff to it.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
It's yeah, like it's really raw. Like that was the
I can imagine like people in their their teams made
their like eighteen plus or whatever, and they like invite
in fighting their girlfriend over It's like, yeah, we're gonna
watch it. We're gonna watch Hell Razor. You know, set
the mood.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
And they made a few years ago and it had
like a female pin Head and.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
It was actually I didn't even know that.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
It wasn't bad. It wasn't I think it was on Hulu.
It was fine. I think there was a little too
much cgi involved with it, Okay, but it was actually
a decent you know, sort of remake reboot of an
existing property. But yeah, Pinhead and that whole Hell Health
Razor series doesn't really get talked about, but really good,

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good choice any any modern That's the issue with a
lot of modern horror movies. I'm not saying they're all awful,
but there's no icons.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
You know, there's no one that's like consistent and they're
like making movies of it.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Just Jigsaw is the only one I can think of,
because you have your contras in your insidious and sinister
ghost movies, but there's no like evil entity that they're
making action figures of that you know, it's super iconic.
But I think Jigsaw and in modern times now it's
sort of got a big bump in the last couple
of years the Terrifier series. And there's the character of

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Art the Clown, which is I guess one of the
modern icons. Did you see Terrifier three?

Speaker 2 (23:38):
I did?

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Did? Yeah? I mentioned that. What did you think of it?

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Oh my god? I first off, I felt I felt
bad because I brought my friend to see with me
and he actually did not know what Terrifier was like
in general. So to introduce someone into the Terrifier series
by letting them watch Terrifier three in theaters like just raw,
I was like, I remember just looking to the right

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and looking at him, and I'm like, I'm not sure
if he's okay, but I think he will be maybe.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Did you were traumatized? Did you warn him? At least
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
I didn't give him a good warning, like at all.
Like I was like, Hey, you want to see this
movie with me? You know, it's whatever, clown kills people, whatever.
And then I was sitting there and I was like,
oh wow, oh yeah, this is this is a lot.
And I'm looking to the right and I'm like, ah,
I traumatized him. Yes, Late Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Night, guys getting a chainsaw is ass. Yeah, like hey
you like this?

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Hey yeah, I'm like, hey, you need to use a
bathroom anything like can you pass me to popcord? Like
but uh no, I actually was a big fan of it.
I know. It was like absolutely like horrific in terms
of all the graphics scenes, I will say, big spoiler alert,
My favorite scene from that has to be the when
they're in the mall and he's pretending to be Santa

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and he gives out the gifts, because I thought that
was I actually okay, I know, like this is just
saying like, how like fucked up my humor is? But
the way that I was so weak. I was laughing
so hard at that scene because I just couldn't believe
that that was something that they wrote in the studio.
I was like, all right, we're gonna we're gonna make
sure that that happened. Yeah, and it was so unexpected.

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I had no idea what was going to happen. But
the fact that that happened in terms of the bomb
going off and everything, I was like, this is crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
And you're not really sure in that series, like what's
happening is for real? Because the girl's sort of hallucination.
So it's like, is this even happening? But yeah, they
went there and they those movies are balgy. It's an
NC seventeen movie, so it's not rated essentially, and it's
making a ton of money. And I love it. I
like the series. I'm not like in love with it,

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but I love the fact that a movie that doesn't
have Universal or Disney or all these, doesn't have a
high production budget, doesn't have a studio backing it, and
it's doing good.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
It's doing well.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
It's doing really well, especially on a two million dollar budget.
It's making a crap ton of money and beating movies
with two hundred million dollar budgets like Joker. So yeah,
we need more movies like this. And the series is continuing,
you know. They obviously set up a fourth movie.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
And oh yeah, how it ended.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, they might do a few more of these. You know.
I'm all for it. I'm all for originality, even though
it's sequels, but it's a new character. It's something. It's
not a remake of Jason and Halloween, and it's new. Yeah,
and eventually, you know, all those characters, though I mentioned
they're going to reboot Jason they're going to reboot Michael
Myers because Hollywood is just a nep that making anything new. Yeah,

(26:38):
they are void of creativity. As far as other modern
icons go, I really can't think of any. But there
is a lot of great modern horror movies out there,
Oh yeah, for sure, movies like Black Phone. I don't
know if you saw that way. I thought that was
a really good one.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Good yeah, And I think if I'm not mistaken, it
was rated PG thirteen.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
It might have been are. But there's but there's there's
like a new style of horror movie that to me,
I'm actually sort of sick of. And that is and
I like the original movies. I like the Conjuring series,
but that whole James wand who like produces and directs
those movies, that whole universe, I think they all blend together.

(27:23):
They all feel the same, right, Nothing stands out all
your Annabelles and Conjurings, And to me, I think they're
fine movies, but I'm sick of it. I want more creativity.
I do horror.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
I feel like at this point with where they're at,
especially in the Conjuring universe, or like everything with how
those movies are related to each other. I feel like
they need to stop with like all of them, because
I feel like just just why after a certain point.
I think after like a third or fourth movie, like
for example, like the Insidious like series, like I think
one and two fine beautiful work, but I think after

(27:58):
like in Citious too, like doing like the the third chapter,
the fourth key and all this other stuff.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
What are they up? Did they just have the fourth one? Yeah?
That was that was.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
God. No, I didn't even see the fourth one because
I was so disappointed in the third one for that.
I didn't even see the fourth one.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
And the like I said, they all blend together. Someone
was to say, what's the difference between conjuring and conjuring two?
I don't know. Yeah, I couldn't tell you because they
all and they all look the same, like they all.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Have this yeah set a shot the same.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, exactly. So let's get more terrifiers out there and
less conjuring type movies. Let's move to scariest scenes of
all time in movie history. And I mentioned those Jurassic
Park movies, but that really stands out to me, this
giant force and and the crazy thing is, you know,
based on reality in a sense that you know, these

(28:50):
creatures existed. Yeah, obviously not with human beings, but thank god,
just to think that there is this giant, you know,
multiple ton behemoth that was walking this planet and just
tearing ship up is just pretty scary. And uh, you know,
as a kid, you don't know what what's reality and

(29:10):
what's what's fiction, so you might think, like I in
my mind, I thought, Okay, dinosaurs might still be out there,
or they could bring back dinosaurs. And you know, scientists
have been working to bring back extinct animals for years,
you know, yeah, sure, the wooly mammott, I know, so
so eventually I think we might get you know, dinosaurs.

(29:34):
But you know, what's what's so lame because now they're like, oh,
dinosaurs have feathers. That's not scary. If you put a
t rex in that same scene, but it just looks
like a chicken, like, it's not terrifying. Yeah, if they
are to bring back dinosaurs, please make them look like
movie Dina.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
It makes them look like dinosaurs like the ones in
the books. And yeah, yeah, make them look a little horrifying.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
But that's the scene that like, especially the t rex,
the initial t rex scene, because it's in the rain.
They're the kids by themselves in the car, and it's
a slow reveal, you know. You see, first of all,
you see this goat that's tied up and the t
Rex is supposed to eat it, and then the goat's gone,
and then it just falls on top of the car

(30:18):
and then you hear it. Actually, the first thing you
do is you hear you hear the thud of the
t Rex walking, and then you see the ripple of
the water in the cup and you're like, oh my god,
something is approaching. So it's this build up, it's this
anticipation and with a lot of modern movies they not
the sound gross, but they blow their load way too early.

(30:40):
They way too early. I mean with with Jurassic Park,
you don't see the t Rex right away. The velociraptor
attacks a crew in the beginning of the movie, but
you don't see it. You just see the people being
attacked and this one guy sort of gets dragged. They're
not showing the monsters until twenty five minutes thirty minutes
into it, and it builds this anticipation up, and then

(31:02):
when you finally see the t Rex, it's not right away.
You know, you see an arm drag down the fence,
and then it's a slow build up. So that's why
Steven Spielberg is such a master director, because he's not
just he's not just showing anarchy and chaos at the
beginning of the movie and showing everything out there. It's
a slow build That's why I did such a good
job with Jaws. You don't see the shark and Jaws

(31:22):
right away. You just see a girl get taken underwater,
and then you you use your own imagination to create fear.
But those scenes in Jurassic Park definitely, to me, are
right up there with some of the scariest scenes. The
other one is a movie I just watched recently, and
it's it's a polarizing movie and it's The Blair Witch Project.

(31:42):
And it's not.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Because of me that we're here now, hungry cold.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Just apologize to Mike's mom and Josh's mom and my mom.
Tell why good people either love this movie or hate

(32:13):
this movie. But people can't deny that this movie was
a juggernaut. It was one of the cheapest movies to
be made to be released theatrically. I think it only
costs fifty thousand dollars, which is chump change, and it
made three hundred million dollars and that's not including VHS sales.
So when it was released on video format, it made

(32:33):
you know, probably a billion dollars altogether on a fifty
thousand dollars budget. This was the first movie to really
do that viral marketing. You know, it was the infancy
of the Internet as we know it, and it sort
of took advantage of that because it's nineteen ninety nine
when this movie is released, and they made audiences think
that this was a true story. For people that don't know,

(32:55):
the Blair Witch is not a real thing. There's no,
it's not. But it's it's not even like a fate.
I always thought like, okay, the story is probably not real,
but this is probably a fable that goes back years ago. No,
it's all created for this movie, and they they did
such a great job of thinking that this is actual
found footage. This was the first found footage movie, and

(33:17):
movies like you know, Paranormal Activity sort of copied that
format of you know, being a the audience sort of
put into this world through a camera that that you know,
the person in the movie is actually using and it
is frightening. I can understand why people don't like it
because not a lot happens, and it's usually it's more cerebral,

(33:40):
and you're you're using your own imagination, and and and
and you're you're you're you know, I'm having like a
mid stroke right now. So we're gonna edit that.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
It's we're gonna edit that. Don't worry about that part.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Actually, I'll probably leave all this in because I don't
give a crap, but I would love that. Actually, yeah,
no screws, I don't give ye but stroke, stroke stroke.
What was they saying, Oh the Blair Witch. Yeah, you're
using your own imagination to you know, fantasize as to
is this actually happening? Is there a witch out there?
And you don't really see anything, but the scene that

(34:15):
stands out is the last five minutes of this movie.
So you know one of the guys is missing. They
hear them off in the distance. There's this building that
is just distraught, and you know, it's a fifty sixty
year old building, and they the two characters go in
the building looking for the character and there's little handprints

(34:39):
of children all throughout this building and then they go
up into the attic, they don't see anything. They go
into the basement, one character's in there, and then you
just see the character of Mike standing in the corner,
and the girl goes into the basement and she gets
attacked at the end and the camera just falls over.
But it's just it's like five to ten ten minutes

(35:00):
scene of just pure chaos and you're not sure exactly
what's happening. But again, you don't see anything. You don't
see any monster. There's no actual witch that you see
throughout this movie. And they were gonna actually show something,
they actually created, you know, a creature effect for the witch,
and they ended up you know, not even using it

(35:21):
because it wasn't needed because you can create your own
theory as to what happened. Did one of the characters
just lose his mind and just you know kill the
other guys because of he was just sort of losing
his mind because they were lost in the woods for days.
So that's the beauty of that movie. But yeah, whenever
that movie ends, because it ends with the girl getting
knocked over, the cameras just sort of on its side.

(35:44):
Once the credits start, I'm freaked out. Like that's something
that to me is super frightening. Less is more in
that movie, and that I think is perfection.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
I have to look into that movie. Actually, I actually
don't think I've seen it, but with the way that
you describe, it almost feels like it has that VHS
like type of feel in terms of like how they're
doing that, the camera work in the angles of it. Yeah,
just seeing like the whole like oh, the camera like
fell over and things like that. I like when movies
are are portrayed in that way. I feel like it
feels more like, oh, like I'm watching like a tape

(36:15):
or some.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's what people thought when they
were watching this movie. They didn't know if this was
at because again this is right in today, a movie
like this wouldn't have the same buzz that it had
in nineteen ninety nine because we didn't know that these
were actors. Now, they'll be an IMDb page, they'll see
this right, person Facebook their Instagram right, there'll be Twitter accounts,

(36:37):
they'll be tiktoks of the actors somewhere. This is nineteen
ninety nine, so a lot of the audience is convinced
that this is actual found footage because they're not showing
anything supernatural. So it's not like, Okay, clearly they're here. Yeah,
so there's no effects that are done. It's all just woodshit.
It's like, oh, there's a pile of sticks, here's rocks
in a weird formation. It's nothing. It's not think it's

(37:00):
weird for but again, and that's why people either love
the movie or hate the movie, because other audience members
are like, okay, can we see something? Can we see
a monster? But to me, I think it's perfection that
there is just oh sticks, these sticks are put in
a cross formations. It's frightening. So I love it. Yeah
you should. I think you should watch it, and I'd

(37:22):
be interested to know what your thoughts are.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
No, I will definitely I will make a note of
that for myself. I definitely will look into that.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
What are some scenes and moments and horror movies that
stand out for you as some of the scariest.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Oh, yeah, for sure. I think. I don't know if
you've ever seen Midsomar. No, I've heard.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
I've heard mixed things though. That's the thing to me.
I heard it could be boring at times, long movie too,
it is.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
It is a long movie. I when I had first
scene and actually seen it in theaters, so I was
in there like getting numb. Yeah, okay, because it is
a long movie, I will admit that. But I know
from personally, like I'm such an audio person in general,
so this was such a movie that focused on audio
and being such a tactic for the horror here. So
there's just a lot of like creepy sounds or just

(38:11):
like in general, like you would think there's the awkwardness
that comes in that movie with how how they like
prolong like different sounds.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Like.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
For example, there's a scene Amidsomar for when the main character,
which is one of the main characters, is this woman.
They're they're in Sweden, right, they had went away, So
this woman and her her boyfriend at the time whatever,
they they went away with the boyfriend's friends. They're at
Sweden and they're in what seems to be like a

(38:39):
very culty like area with like a group of people
or maybe like a town village of people or whatever.
And there's a scene where the main character, this woman,
and like a bunch of the women from the village
are like crying and for whatever reason, that scene kind
of like resonated with me. Not because of like the
crying or like that I'm just a girl, but just

(38:59):
the fact of how long they made that scene. I
thought it was just like creepy in itself, because you
just feel like I feel like with movies are just
when watching things or just knowing or being familiar with
interactions in general, you have an idea of how long
these interactions should be. So the fact that they made
that scene alone like so long, and you could tell
that they put efensis on how they were screaming and

(39:21):
the sound of it and how loud it is, and
they just made it. I don't know. It was just
like weird stuff that was definitely going on in that movie.
I thought it was great I had with them.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
It's on my list of things that I want to
watch because.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
There's a lot of creepy shit that I think is
just going on in a movie. You're not really sure
exactly what's happening, why they're even there for that long,
the way they are, whether if they could truly trust
this friend because it's the woman, it's her boyfriend's friend
that brought them all there. It was like, oh, like
I want to bring you guys like, you know, see
my family Da Da Da, and they go on this

(39:53):
huge trip to Sweden and then I don't know, just
in general, this movie made me scared to even visit
Sweden myself. Maybe if I have like a like some
shrewms on me or something, maybe I'll be a little
bit more tempted, because it's just like, all right, the
grass is really nice out there, Maybe I should go.
But definitely some scenes in Midsommer I think are some
of the I don't know if it's potentially like the scariest,

(40:15):
but I know some scenes in there are my favorite
because I just really like how they made such an
emphasis on sound in that movie and how that was
a big tactic of horror there.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Sometimes the scenes that stick with you are the ones
that maybe maybe they don't create like a screaming like
they're not like a jump scares. To me, jump scares
are really lazy.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
They are They may hate jump scared.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
They make you scared in the moment, but you.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Know it's a cheap shot. Of course I'm scared, But.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
When you're driving home at night, those aren't the scenes
you think about. It's the creepy imagery. It's something like
the lady in the bathtub in the shining or it's right,
like I said, those scenes from The Blair Witch Project.
There's no jump scares in the Blair Witch Project. It's
just all you know, creepy shots and.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Just creepy shots, the awkwardness, like prolonged.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Stuff like that stuff that to me is really haunting
it and stands the test of time as far as
any other scenes that.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Sort of Yeah, sure, so there's definitely that. There's this
movie called The Annihilation and it is a movie about
this biologist basically being reached out to about uh, there's
like a specific area in the woods that like there's
a weird radiation that's coming from it.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
YEA saw the movie.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Oh okay, okay, So I won't even going to explaining it.
So do you remember that scene of when they're in
like this weird like kind of like they're in like
a house like while they're in that area and that bear,
duck crocodile looking creature I came through and just started
like just regay havoc and like grabbed one of the people.
I think that scene for me it was just like, oh,

(42:00):
that was.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
A movie that I thought was really good. Yeah, and
it was all women from what I remember.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
And it was which was great because you don't really
see that too often, I feel like too.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
And the beauty of it it wasn't forced because a
lot of times they have scenes or movies with women
and their whole shtick is like we're women. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
It's like yeah, it's like an emphasis. It's just like, yeah,
we're shit here, we're power, and this is like, oh, they.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Just happened to be women.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
The one that stands out in the Last Avengers movie,
there's a scene where like all the female superheroes are
doing their own thing and then they're like standing in
front of the camera.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
The light is like behind them and their hair is
blowing in the wind and stuff. It could definitely take
away from it.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
It's so annoying, but Annihilation was awesome.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Annihilation was awesome. I had a good time with that.
Or even when they were that scene where they were
watching the video. I think the husband was in that
video and it was like they were doing like weird
like cutting him open and taking the intestines out and
stuff like that. So like definitely a scene like that.
Those resonated with me. I feel like those were my favorites.
I also really like I can't really name specific scenes

(43:06):
from Sinister, but I do recall like really enjoying Sinister
one and two, like just the whole again, the whole, like, Oh,
we're like looking at tapes and like we're just like
witnessing something happened and trying to see if that is
something that's real or not. And uh, to kind of
bring it back to Saw. I'm actually a big fan
of the Saw series, except for Sauce Spy. I think

(43:28):
it was Saw Spiral or something like that, the one
with Chris Rock. Yeah, that was horrible.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
I thought it was horrible, really bad ending. Yeah, I
thought it was alright until like the last twenty minutes
and then it sort of spiraled.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
I feel like the entire movie. I was just pissed.
Oh yeah, pissed off the entire movie. I don't know
what it was about it, Like I feel like, again,
I know, it's the whole same story, like, oh my god,
who's this guy doing these creepy killings to people? And
we have to find out. But I feel like with
Saw Spiral, for some reason, like it was so obvious
from the jump what was happening. I was doing it,

(44:01):
and the police are just like, oh man, how do
we catch this guy? And I feel like there were
so many ways that they could have it, just I
don't know, it just felt really stupid for me. So
I did not like that movie. But in terms of
like my favorite scene, one of my favorite scenes from
the Saw series was definitely there was this one scene
where I forgot which Saw movie it was, but it
was that public that public killing that they did. They

(44:24):
were in uh, it was like two guys in the
window like in the like show when I don't even
know what am I talking about, Like show, Like they're
in like this window right like in public, and everyone
is able to see the storefront like a storefront right yeah,
justin Oh my god. I don't know why it took
me so long to find the words for that, because
I'm just like, what do you call this? Yeah, basically

(44:48):
it got transferred over. But that scene alone where the
girl is basically up on top and it's like on
top of this saw and these two guys like basically
was involved with her and it's a matter of like,
oh man, like which one is she gonna choose? Like,
and they basically ended up just like killing her like
letting her be killed, but the fact that that was

(45:08):
a whole like public execution, Like I really enjoyed that
scene for sure.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
You mentioned, uh that that the saw spirals like obvious
what was going to happen. But when I think of
horror movies, a lot of them have great twists.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, that is.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
That is you know, a cliche that I think, when
done right, is something that could you know, be iconic.
That like when I think of the sixth Sense, which
I just rewatched again, you know the fact that have
you seen the sixth sense? By the way, do you
know the twist and the sixth sense?

Speaker 2 (45:41):
I don't the sixth sense?

Speaker 1 (45:43):
What is it all?

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Give me like a small like just a small.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Place like probably seeing the parody of I think they
parody in uh one of the scary movie movies. Okay,
he says I see dead people.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Yeah that's the sixth sense.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
That's the sixth sense.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Oh my god, that's what.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Okay, So I think in scary movie they say I
see white people.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Yeah, so you don't know the twist? No, you got
to watch the sixth to watch the six Oh my god,
please do that this week it's on maybe pe Cocker
one of these streaming services. Hopefully they didn't take it down,
but I rewatched it this week, and you know, watching
it knowing what's going to happen, it sort of takes
away from it. But it's still really good acting performances.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
But movies like that that have that moment not even
in horror movies. They're just movies in general, where like
a movie like The Original Planet of the Apes from
nineteen sixty eight has this twist where they happened to
be on planet Earth the whole time and he didn't
know that, you know, he was in the future of
Earth and he sees the Statue of Liberty and you
had as an audience, are like, oh my god, they
were on Earth the whole fucking time and it just

(46:51):
happened to be taken over by Apes. Damn you, God,
damn you because they're in the distant future. Stuff like
that twists n night. Shyamalan, who directed The Sixth Sense,
his whole thing now is, you know, he has to
have a secret twist ending, but the Sixth Sense is

(47:14):
his sort of you know, crown jewel when it comes
to the twist ending. So I'm gonna need you back
on this show.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
I was about to say, we need more episodes because
we just got movie recommendations from each other.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
I'll watch that in summer, and now you watch the
Sixth Sense and we'll have to come back for that.
That well, let's get to the main event. The main
event that would be the Evil Dead series, which I'm
a huge fan of. This series. Yeah, you know, directed
by Sam Raimi who would go on to direct the
Spider Man series and is one of the you know,
biggest directors of the last twenty five years or so,

(47:49):
but he got his start in horror and that original
Evil Dead movie I enjoy. I really do like the
first Evil Dead but to me, it's when Evil Dead
two comes out is when I fall in love with
this series because it's sort of a soft reboot of
that original story. And now these guys are more experienced.
You know that was that was a Bruce Campbell and

(48:10):
and Sam Raimi. That was sort of their first film,
so they they they're rookies, but now they are experienced
when it comes to Evil Dead two, and they know
what worked in that original movie, what didn't work, and
then they amped it up. They turned the dial to
eleven and then they also implemented the comedy element, and
that is a very important thing when it comes to

(48:31):
Army of Darkness and Evil Dead two. They're very funny movies.
Bruce Campbell is a really talented comedic actor and a
physical comedian. He puts his body on the line, you know,
he'll smash stuff over his head, he'll flip his own body.
He's very much inspired by The Three Stooges, was both
Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell. They're big fans of The Stooges,

(48:52):
so they tried to implement you know Stooges, you know,
cliche type of comedy, like you know, the poking of
the eyes and blocking the eye with your hand. I
mean they do. They do literal Three Stooges bits in
these movies. But it's amazing practical effects. It's great comedy,
it's great scares. Evil Dead two to me is probably

(49:14):
in my top five favorite horror movies of all time.
I think it's the best of the series. Is there
one that you think is the best?

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (49:24):
You know, they remade it in twenty thirteen. They had
one that came out last year. They have the original
three and then there's also the Ash Versus Evil Dead series,
which is a fantastic series that was on Stars a
few years ago. Is there one in the series that
is your all time favorite?

Speaker 2 (49:38):
I feel like, honestly the most recent one, which was
The Evil Dead Rise and actually to One in twenty thirteen,
those were the two Evil deads that actually really enjoy
And again definitely with the whole aspect of it being
a horror comedy type of type of film, is just
the scenes like from Evil Dead Rise or even like

(50:01):
subceeds from Evil Dead from the twenty thirteen movie, it's
just funny, Like I'm like in in the Sea, just
kind of like shaking up a little bit just from
like the gore, like just knowing like, okay, this person
already turned like some shit's about to go down. But
when like a random moment will just happen like out
of nowhere, that's like funny and it kind of just
brings me out of it. But it's like it's a

(50:23):
weird comedic relief that I like, I've come to appreciate.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
And the Evil Dead Rise had balds because it's one
of the rare movies that they actually kill kids in
a lot of these movies shy away from that, even
like the really bad characters like a Jason Vorhes. You
never see him kill a kid in any of the movies,
you know, older teenagers. But in this movie Evil Dead Rise,

(50:48):
it had some Baalds on it, And I do appreciate that.
I definitely still like the original ones better, but I
will say that I do enjoy that these movies didn't
shy away from from practical effects. They're using real blood.
A lot of these, particularly action movies, use a lot
of CGI blood, which to me looks so bad, it
looks so video game made. So the fact that this

(51:12):
movie wasn't afraid to use those practical effects and it
did something different Evil Dead Rise, where it wasn't the
same thing in the cabin in the woods. They were
in an apartment like.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
A little apartment complex.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
And I'm glad they tried something. I'm glad they tried
something different, but.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Something you also sorry to cut off if I did
something that I wanted to mention. Well, you had mentioned
I wanted to reiterate the importance of how they finally
brought like some kids into this shit, like into Evil
Dead Rise. Well, yeah, we have like one kid and
like two teenagers. But the fact of how all that

(51:50):
played out and they didn't spare the kids at all,
I just thought that was like great.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
I was like, good again, if a kid sees this,
going back to my Jurassic Park story, you know, when
I was a kid, there were kids in that movie.
So if you're like an eight year old nine year
old kid watching Evil Dad, yeah, you're gonna imagine yourself
in that role, because you're not gonna imagine yourself as
a forty year old mom. It's just like, you can't
put yourself in those shoes, but you could put yourself

(52:14):
in the shoes of the kids. Right. So again, I
think a really smart decision. We'll see what they do
with that series. I'm sure they're not done with it.
I would like to see Bruce Campbell come back as Ash.
At some point, I know he sort of said he's
done with the series. I think they did a video
game and he said he'll do voiceover work for it.
But I think he might be done. I think he

(52:36):
might be done as Ash, which you know, he had
a good run. He's forty years of playing that character
on and off. But I would like to see one
final Sam Raymie, Bruce Campbell team up to do the
Evil Dead series, you know, just to wrap it up,
because they.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Just wrap it up in that sense, at least with
their story.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Yeah, just just to wrap this episode up because we've
been going for about an hour now. I want to
talk about the Jordan Peel movies.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Okay, I think he do that.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Actually, I think, you know, uh, he's a director that
does originality, which I'm all for, and I think I
think like his first movie the best. I think get
Out is his best one.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
There's two different endings with that one, too, is there? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:20):
I did not know that.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yeah, there's two different endings. I think the one ending
that everyone is familiar with was the one where his
best friend comes in the police, right. The other ending
is it was like actual police Oh yeah at all.
So you see a black man and this poor white
victim of a woman, like covered in blood, like help me,

(53:44):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
I'm shocked didn't go with that ending. I think that
would have had a more you would have remembered.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
It. Was shocked about it too, yeah, because it's just like, oh, man,
like you finally think he's about to escape, and then
obviously they went right yeah, I'm kind of mad, Yeah,
because I like there's two endings.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Yeah, they should have they should have released the that
one in theaters though.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
I like that movie the most as far as his
trilogy of films. But I'm always interested to see what
he does next because he doesn't do sequels. He's not He's.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Yeah, I will say though I was not a fan
of Nope at all. No, I was not a fan
at all.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Especially was terrible.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
I thought the whole thing. I was just sitting there pissed. Yeah, pissed.
And I and I made this kind of like a
special thing because it was around my birthday at the time,
and I knew about Nope from when he had first
announced it. So I'm sitting on like two years of
knowing about Nope and just waiting for it in theaters.
I went to a whole drive in like theater, So
in my car, pissed. I'm in my car pissed. I

(54:54):
don't even want popcorn from this random shack in the
woods anymore. Like I'm pissed, like I don't know what
it well, I do know what it was. I just
feel like the entire movie, like it was just I
don't even know what I was watching. I feel like
none of it brought any type of like fear or
I just don't think any of it was scary, And
you know, that was very weird for me because I know,

(55:15):
for me, a big thing with what can be scary
is definitely the unknown. So I just don't know why,
Like I don't know if I just had such high
expectations for what it was that could yeah, because I
was waiting on it for like like two years before
it actually like dropped, So even without having any idea
as to what the movie was gonna entail, I still

(55:36):
just had such big expectations and I just feel like
it was not met at all. But I will I
will agree with you on get Out probably be my favorite.
I really enjoyed Us too, but I will say it
was definitely kind of confusing, and I honestly like I
think if I revisited maybe like one or two more times,
I would have a better opinion about it. But I know,

(55:57):
I definitely like get Out was like good praise, Yeah,
great performances. I think he does a good job with
getting the right people to do everything.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
So yeah, I think he announced a new movie. I
think it's coming out in a year or so, so
I'm sure it will make a lot of money. Yeah,
movies make a lot of money. People are invested in
his film. You know, his his directing, so we'll see
what he does. But nessa, this has been a pleasure,
a pleasure, Justine. But we need to have the the

(56:29):
sequel addition, we do because you need to watch the
Sixth Sense.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Yeah, and Blair Witch Project. That's also.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
I'm so happy you don't know the sixth Sense.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Yeah, because I'm so familiar with that reference. But I
was just like, where did I come? I didn't go
further to see where it came from to actually like
watch it. So definitely watch it. I don't know if
you know the VHS movies, Yeah, I would recommend that.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Okay, how many do they have? Now?

Speaker 2 (56:55):
They have a lot now. I actually didn't even know
they had so much. I gotta watch them myself because
I thing I only watched the first two movies, first
two or three movies.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
They're not released in theaters either.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
I don't think I think they're just directed. They're just yea.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Streaming or whatnot. That's a shame that a lot of
these movies don't get the the theatrical release.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Yeah, because a lot of them really deserve it, honestly.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
All right now, so well, thank you for joining me
on Film Reel. We'll be back, hopefully in a few
weeks to recap some of the movies that we mentioned seeing,
and I eventually will get that Transformers Part three episode
out that will be the next episode of Film Reel.
Thank you all for listening so long.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Bye, Thank you. It was a pleasure.