March 12, 2025 • 19 mins
Reviewing the late, great Gene Hackman's movie, RUNAWAY JURY. Plus, a quick recap of our hatred for Flight Risk and Presence.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everybody, my name is Justin Greenberg and this is
Film Reel. Last episode, I was talking with my buddy
Jonathan about fast food and we didn't talk about movies.
We eventually did get to talk about movies, but I
want to break it up into different segments. Something we're trying.
We're always trying new things here on the Film Reel.
But let's get right back into the conversation at hand.
(00:24):
That was a half an hour of talking about fast food.
But you know, we've talked about how we you know,
we like to eat our food while watching the movies,
So I might as well talk about some movies. And
I watched some new movies in theaters this past week,
and then Jonathan lent me a DVD of his that
I did end up watching yesterday for a movie called
(00:45):
Runaway Jerry. So why don't we get to that, and
then we'll get to the two movies that we did
see in theaters that we both saw. I've seen a bunch,
but these two I know we definitely both saw. So
Runaway Jerry I thought was a very very good movie.
The basic plot is there's a trial taking place because
a man was murdered by a gun and this woman
(01:07):
who's the widow is suing the gun company. And the
basic plot is there's two I guess law firms and
they are trying to figure out the jury selection and
trying to find the right people to get in the
jury selection. And there's controversy and issues going on with
the selection of people. And then John Cusack plays a
(01:27):
character that you're not really sure what his motivation is,
why does he want to be a part of this,
you know, jury, And eventually at the end we do
find out because there is a twist which was put
on the front of the freaking DVD. It is like
the greatest twist, a surprise twist ending I'm like, thank you,
thank you for ruining that because I'm just waiting for
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the twist the entire time, which is I don't know
why the marketing for that was the way it was.
But you had a star started cast, as I mentioned
John Cusack, but you have two the best actors of
all time with Gene Hackman and Dustin Hoffman, and they
have a really good scene in the bathroom, which is
just top tier acting that you really don't get in
(02:09):
movies anymore. Sure don't do that.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
This is about my witness.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Right, this is about you messing with my client, my case,
and the rules are law that govern our country, in
our country.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yes, I didn't figure for a patriot, mister Rorr.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
What we there?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Blatant disregard for the people's right to bear arms? You
know the Second Amendment? Is that why you're doing this?
Protect constitution?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Is that? Of course not.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I mean it to win, just like you are, because
that's what I was hired to do. Everything else is
colored bubbles.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Colored bubbles, colored bubbles.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
A system of the calls for twelve people to.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Sit and listen to testimony of witnesses, fella, and that
includes my witness. The twist is it's nothing crazy. I
didn't think it was anything insane. I guess we could
get to what it is because the movie's over twenty
years old at this point. So basically, John Cusacks X
was killed by guns at a high school back in
the day, and the girl's sister is also in on
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this plot, and basically throughout the movie you're not sure
what side they're on, and then at the end you realize, oh,
they're gonna fuck over the gun company because they tried
to extort money from them, and you know, they fuck
over the gun company because they want revenge on them,
because I think Gene Hackman's firm defended the gun company
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in a case that they had when that that school
shooting took place. So yeah, I mean it's it was
a very good movie. It's not a typical Justin Greenberg movie.
It's more thought provoking. And you know, like I mentioned
to you yesterday, they're using terms I'm not familiar with,
and it takes time to understand everything. And also the
DVD I was watching was fucking it was pitch black.
(03:48):
I couldn't see anything. I think that's part on my TV.
It's also DVD is an ancient format and it is
what it is. It was still a movie I would
definitely recommend watching. So why is it Near and Dear
to your Heart?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
No, I just I thought it was a very good movie.
Like you said, the twist at the end, which I
didn't read it on the DVD obviously when I saw it,
because I probably saw it before I bought the DVD.
But great cast, great story, Jeremy Pivens in that too
old school Jeremy Piven, Rachel Wise beautiful.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, and there's a few other people it's the guy
Orlando Jones. He was the guy who did the seven
up ads makes seven up yours. I had that shirt
I got fucking I had to take it off in
sixth grade because it says up yours on the back. YEP.
I got it from a store Cooast called Tease Me
at Roosevelt Field Mall. You know they sold T shirts. Okay,
(04:44):
I'm the guy who makes seven up. I also write
the avatars, and I just came up with a great
news slogan, makes seven up yours, make seven.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Up yo us.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Dude, these guys that you're like, Okay, that guy's gonna
be a megastar, Like he's going to be the next
Eddie Murphy. He's in the movie Evolution, which is another
really underrated sci fi comedy Ghostbusters esque, and he's doing
movies and TV shows and commercials and then he hasn't
done any twenty five years. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
No, I just it's that's my type of movie.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I like the thriller type of you know what's going on?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Are they going to get away with it? Are they
not going to get away with it? It's that.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
So the whole thing with that was the guy whoever
got fired or whatever, walked into his office and shot
everybody up. That's how it opens up. And then actually
it was uh, Dylan McDermott was always been that died shot. Yeah,
So that's just my type of movie. I like that,
And I supposedly it was the first time that somebody
actually went after the gun company as opposed to the
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person who actually shot the people, So that was the
big thing about it. And then, like you said, Gene
Hackman works for a company where they try to figure
out because the whole part of jury selection is you want,
obviously people who are going to side with you, and
the way that they figure that out is really crazy.
It's not just one thing, it's are they married, are
they divorced? You know, have they ever had issues with
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the cops? Do they like to hunt? Are they totally
against guns? Things like that. So they're putting in like
all this information to figure out who they want on
the jury, and then who the other side wants on.
And then you have a certain number of I don't
know what they call it, not an objection, but you
can basically just get rid of somebody, so you have
like five each. So if I know, you really want
this person on the jury and I don't I'm gonna
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kick them off. But you also got to make sure
you use your objections properly. You don't want to get
caught at the end where you don't have any and
they have a couple left.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So it's actually insane, and it's very ignorant of me
because I'm not the brightest man when it comes to
certain things. I can tell you every WrestleMania main event
like this. I had no idea that this was a
thing that happens. They're like, you know, it's like picking
basketball team, like I pick Haim. I just thought they
picked whomever. I didn't know there was a whole process,
so that goes along. I pretty much found out. I
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think the other movie, the McConaughey movies they talk about.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
That probably probably I feel like that was the.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
First time I was like, oh, there's like a selection process.
It yeah, like a draft of sorts.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I like court law movies, you know, like cop movies,
but also with the court process of it to not
just straight up cops off.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
There was very little, uh, there's very little about the
actual court case, A lot less than what I thought
there'd be. It was more about the jury selection and
all of that, and again another spoiler, it does have
a satisfying ending, which would have been upsetting if you know,
the gun company got away with it, So I'm glad
they went that route. Every now and then, I do
(07:39):
like a twisted, dark sort of ending, but I was
just kept on waiting for that twist, like what is
the twist going to be?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
But it's also really cool how John Cusack does certain
things to manipulate certain things, like, uh, he says something
to the bailiff and then makes them have lunch at
the restaurant where the judge is going to be and
then they're talking to them and that it's not supposed
to happen and things like that.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
He just I thought, I thought it was a well
done movie.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, he's playing he's playing uh Gene Hackman's character who's
like the evil you know, for the for the gun
company and sort of playing him for a fool. And
and like you said, there's there's there's just great moments
throughout the movie and uh, definitely, uh a movie I
would recommend. And I'm glad you rented it or rather
let me borrow it. So uh, I'm gonna have to
(08:26):
lend you one of my weird, uh disturbing eighties movies
as a as you know, payback, yeah, payback of sorts
like damn sure, you don't underestimate me for health.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Somebody got to that girl.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
He's a hard job to protect.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
There's only so much.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I can do, all right, I can't protect you.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I want you to find her. I want you to
container you're losing me, my journey.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You have destroying all those people's lash anyone.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Know, we don't have anything yet.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Let's move on to the two movies that we did
see in theaters, and now we'll let's start with one
of my favorites of all time, and that would be
Flight Risk with the great Mark Wahlberg. And I love
Mark Wahlberg, and I like Mel Gibson as a director,
and these two coming together, you just knew you were
gonna get absolute gold. And that is what we got
(09:32):
with Flight Risk and delivered on every By the way,
I'm completely making all of this up. This was one
of the most random films that I think I've seen
in theaters, mainly because Mel Gibson is such a good director.
You know, he's made some of the best movies of
the last thirty years, and he's relegated to making something
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that would have been a direct to DVD type of movie.
It felt so low budget itself. You know, you get
Mark Wahlberg, who's an A list star. I think he's
doing this as a favor for mel Gibson, is what
I'm gathering. You know, I don't know why he would
choose to do this generic, horribly acted, horribly scripted, low
(10:15):
budget esque type movie. Still had a you know, a
thirty million dollar budget, which is not crazy amount, but
it's not like, you know, a three million, four million
dollar film. It just just an absolute disaster of a film.
But I had actual fun while watching it.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I want to know what they spend thirty million dollars on,
because the whole thing took place in a in a
not even a good plane.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
No, like a little shitty two seater, a pond hopper.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
You know, I think Mark Wahlberg gets at least ten
million dollars, Okay, I think you know, Gibson gets a
decent chunk of change for directing the movie.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Tofer Grace probably still got paid a couple million.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, maybe two or three million. And then you know
there are special effects in there, but nothing stands out
as far as you know. Oh my god, this this
scene must have cost ten million dollars just to make. So.
The basic plot of this movie is is to for
Grace's character is I guess a witness to something that.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
He's an accountant for mob That's what it was, and
he was skimming money and he.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Has to take a flight I guess from alasque.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Hut in Alaska in some ran down hotel motel by
the way.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
The moose or whatever it was in the beginning, Oh,
it was like horrible cgi And Jackie said, I'm like,
that wasn't a real moose. She's like, no, it's terrible,
like a I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It reminded me of the reindeer in the Santa Claus
with Tim Allen. I was like, you're starting your movie
over of this. Yeah, so you know, tofer Grace is
this witness. A cop gets on a plane with him
and Mark Wahlberg who's the pilot, and Mark Wahlberg ends
up being somebody that's not actually the pilot that they thought, and.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
He's hit me with them, yeah, with the.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Mafia, and he has to go kill I guess everyone
involved with this and there's you know, there is some
tension there on the plane, and you know, just based
on the trailer alone, which is unfortunate that there is
this twist of sorts where Mark Wahlberg isn't a good guy.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
We need him may day, may day, we've been compromised.
The pilot's a hitman. Oh the time little pieces, then
the entire Forensis team to identify you.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Eventually they subdue Mark Wahlberg, but then they have to
figure out how to land this plane. So it's, you know,
a cliche sort of story that we've seen from time
to time where they're calling into air traffic control trying
to figure out how to land the plane. But nothing
of this movie was good. But like I said, I
had fun with it. It wasn't boring. Out of all
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the movies that we've seen throughout this last year and
a half or so, there's been movies that are just
boring and you know, you're never gonna watch it again,
and there was nothing to enjoy. This I thought was
one of those movies that was so kind of bad
at times. And Mark Wahlberg with his ridiculous haircut and
his stupid accent in his one liners and it's something
(13:06):
that was very nineteen ninety five ish, like just a
shitty nineties sort of movie that I had some at
least enjoyment with it. I know what I was watching
was terrible. It was not a good movie. I couldn't
recommend it to people. But I didn't hate my life
after watching it.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
And it was quick, thank god, it was only an
hour and a half. But I heard that that was
his idea to shave his head like that too, which
I thought was super weird.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah. I don't know what the strategy there was, but
definitely one of the worst movies of the year, and
probably in the running for top ten worst movies of
the year. Well, I have my number one worst movie
of the year, and that is Presence. Yeah, because at
least Flight Risk you had the funniness, the awkwardness, the
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one liners, the corniness. With presents, you pretty much had nothing. No,
this is a ghost story that was marketed as the
scariest movie of all time, and the reviews were pretty
solid for the critics. So I'm going into this with
high expectations, and maybe that's my fault, and maybe that's why,
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also why I was very disappointed with this movie. But
pretty much nothing happens for the entirety of the movie.
The ghost involved in this ghost story isn't an evil ghost.
The ghost is somebody trying to warn a family about,
you know, a boyfriend of sorts, and nothing happens, nothing happens,
nothing happens, nothing happens. The boyfriend tries to drug and
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murder this girl out of nowhere. He's horribly acting throughout this,
you know, hamming it up, saying the whole plot in
front of nobody. He's just like, I like to do
this because mother wouldn't let me do things. And he's
talking to nobody, and then the ghost wakes up the brother,
and the brother tackles the boyfriend out the window and
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they die, and that's it. I just smiled the entire movie.
I don't give a shit because nothing happened for an
hour and twenty minutes, and then five minutes you get
everything happening, and it's not exciting and it's not scary,
and it's just a cheap movie. Literally, it costs three
million dollars to make.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Ah. Yeah, you said they made it in like three
weeks too, right, Yep?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
It was I think eleven days.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
It all takes place in the house.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
It's all first person point of view, so you don't
have to have any crazy setup shots because it's all,
you know, a first person, shaky sort of camera thing.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, that was the one thing I actually didn't mind.
I thought that was it was different.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
It's kind of cool, like you're looking from the ghost perspective.
But like you said, everything else about the movie was terrible.
I don't know who could have watched that movie and
build it as a horror or a suspense or a
scary movie, because, like you said, there wasn't one jump scare,
there wasn't anything. The scenes how they did that as well.
(15:47):
You watched the scene the screen turned black and then
it was a completely different scene. It wasn't even like
you were watching a movie. It was like you were
watching thirty scenes that were just like put together.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, acting was terrible.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Nothing good with the what's her name, Lucy Lou Right, Yeah,
I usually think she's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I thought she was terrible.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Well, how many takes could they have done? And it's like, oh,
you have one take because yeah it's you have filming
this in eleven days for whatever reason, and it's not
one of those movies where you're like, oh, that wasn't scary. No,
it's it's like legitimately it's it's not even trying to
be scary. No, at least I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
No. Like the one cool thing was like when the
ghosts moved the books off of her bed like to
the desk, But it wasn't scary. It was just like, oh,
it's cool, it's moving over there or whatever. We're like
the stuff in the closet that fell down. I guess
that was supposed to be scary, but you knew it
was gonna come.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
It just yeah, it wasn't good at all. Like both
the movies we just talked about, flight Risk and Presence
were not good. But I would watch flight Risk twenty
more times before I watched Presence once.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, that's how bad.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
That's a fact right there. I think if you did
get drunk and watch Flight Risk and just laughed at
how stupid it was, you could have some fun with it.
There's nothing that you could do with Presents. And it's
so shocking because I've talked to two of my friends
that do have good tastes in movies, and they both
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said Presence was good I'm like, what what are we
watching here? It's just it is what it is. You know,
people have different tastes. I mean, we have different tastes
in movies, so I can't get angry at them. But
it's just just fascinated what I did. I did not
get into it.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Like I actually don't even care what they think was
good about it because I hate it.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I will talk to one of the kids, Uh, he
actually works here at the radio station. I'll ask him,
you know, I've had him on the show before. Maybe
I'll have him back on to to claim his case
and let me know why he thought the movie was good.
But there's so many better horror movies out there. I mean,
like you said, I wouldn't eve classify this as a
horror movie, so I would definitely pass on Presence. I
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still probably would pass on Flight Risk. And if you know,
if you want to rent Runaway, Jerry, definitely do that
instead of those movies. That's going to do it for
this edition of Film Real. We will get back next
time and discuss our face favorite action movies of all time.
But I want to quickly talk about Gene Hackman, who
we just so happened to be talking about you know
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during this podcast, and by the time I started editing this,
Gene Hackman died. This has been a common theme now
that hopefully doesn't continue with this podcast where I talk
about somebody and then we get news that that person died.
It happened with Carl Weathers. I was talking about the
Rocky franchise and he died immediately after I finished recording
(18:29):
My Rocky Part one, and Gene Hackman just passed away.
Really weird case as to how he died. As of now,
as of this recording, it's not really confirmed what happened,
but him, his wife, and his dog all died and
it's a shame that he passed away. But he lived
a very, very long life and he's one of the
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greatest actors of all times. So do yourself a favor
and watch something with Gene Hackman today, whether it's Hoosiers
or The French Connect, Superman or Runaway Jerry, the movie
that we discussed on this edition of Film Reel. Watch
a Gene Hackman movie because you're gonna see just top
tier acting from one of the all time great So
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this episode was dedicated to Gene Hackman and his family.
We'll be back, as I mentioned. Next time discussing the
greatest action movies of all time. So long, everybody
Hey, everybody, my name is Justin Greenberg and this is
Film Reel. Last episode, I was talking with my buddy
Jonathan about fast food and we didn't talk about movies.
We eventually did get to talk about movies, but I
want to break it up into different segments. Something we're trying.
We're always trying new things here on the Film Reel.
But let's get right back into the conversation at hand.
(00:24):
That was a half an hour of talking about fast food.
But you know, we've talked about how we you know,
we like to eat our food while watching the movies,
So I might as well talk about some movies. And
I watched some new movies in theaters this past week,
and then Jonathan lent me a DVD of his that
I did end up watching yesterday for a movie called
(00:45):
Runaway Jerry. So why don't we get to that, and
then we'll get to the two movies that we did
see in theaters that we both saw. I've seen a bunch,
but these two I know we definitely both saw. So
Runaway Jerry I thought was a very very good movie.
The basic plot is there's a trial taking place because
a man was murdered by a gun and this woman
(01:07):
who's the widow is suing the gun company. And the
basic plot is there's two I guess law firms and
they are trying to figure out the jury selection and
trying to find the right people to get in the
jury selection. And there's controversy and issues going on with
the selection of people. And then John Cusack plays a
(01:27):
character that you're not really sure what his motivation is,
why does he want to be a part of this,
you know, jury, And eventually at the end we do
find out because there is a twist which was put
on the front of the freaking DVD. It is like
the greatest twist, a surprise twist ending I'm like, thank you,
thank you for ruining that because I'm just waiting for
(01:49):
the twist the entire time, which is I don't know
why the marketing for that was the way it was.
But you had a star started cast, as I mentioned
John Cusack, but you have two the best actors of
all time with Gene Hackman and Dustin Hoffman, and they
have a really good scene in the bathroom, which is
just top tier acting that you really don't get in
(02:09):
movies anymore. Sure don't do that.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
This is about my witness.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Right, this is about you messing with my client, my case,
and the rules are law that govern our country, in
our country.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yes, I didn't figure for a patriot, mister Rorr.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
What we there?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Blatant disregard for the people's right to bear arms? You
know the Second Amendment? Is that why you're doing this?
Protect constitution?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Is that? Of course not.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I mean it to win, just like you are, because
that's what I was hired to do. Everything else is
colored bubbles.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Colored bubbles, colored bubbles.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
A system of the calls for twelve people to.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Sit and listen to testimony of witnesses, fella, and that
includes my witness. The twist is it's nothing crazy. I
didn't think it was anything insane. I guess we could
get to what it is because the movie's over twenty
years old at this point. So basically, John Cusacks X
was killed by guns at a high school back in
the day, and the girl's sister is also in on
(03:05):
this plot, and basically throughout the movie you're not sure
what side they're on, and then at the end you realize, oh,
they're gonna fuck over the gun company because they tried
to extort money from them, and you know, they fuck
over the gun company because they want revenge on them,
because I think Gene Hackman's firm defended the gun company
(03:26):
in a case that they had when that that school
shooting took place. So yeah, I mean it's it was
a very good movie. It's not a typical Justin Greenberg movie.
It's more thought provoking. And you know, like I mentioned
to you yesterday, they're using terms I'm not familiar with,
and it takes time to understand everything. And also the
DVD I was watching was fucking it was pitch black.
(03:48):
I couldn't see anything. I think that's part on my TV.
It's also DVD is an ancient format and it is
what it is. It was still a movie I would
definitely recommend watching. So why is it Near and Dear
to your Heart?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
No, I just I thought it was a very good movie.
Like you said, the twist at the end, which I
didn't read it on the DVD obviously when I saw it,
because I probably saw it before I bought the DVD.
But great cast, great story, Jeremy Pivens in that too
old school Jeremy Piven, Rachel Wise beautiful.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, and there's a few other people it's the guy
Orlando Jones. He was the guy who did the seven
up ads makes seven up yours. I had that shirt
I got fucking I had to take it off in
sixth grade because it says up yours on the back. YEP.
I got it from a store Cooast called Tease Me
at Roosevelt Field Mall. You know they sold T shirts. Okay,
(04:44):
I'm the guy who makes seven up. I also write
the avatars, and I just came up with a great
news slogan, makes seven up yours, make seven.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Up yo us.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Dude, these guys that you're like, Okay, that guy's gonna
be a megastar, Like he's going to be the next
Eddie Murphy. He's in the movie Evolution, which is another
really underrated sci fi comedy Ghostbusters esque, and he's doing
movies and TV shows and commercials and then he hasn't
done any twenty five years. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
No, I just it's that's my type of movie.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I like the thriller type of you know what's going on?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Are they going to get away with it? Are they
not going to get away with it? It's that.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
So the whole thing with that was the guy whoever
got fired or whatever, walked into his office and shot
everybody up. That's how it opens up. And then actually
it was uh, Dylan McDermott was always been that died shot. Yeah,
So that's just my type of movie. I like that,
And I supposedly it was the first time that somebody
actually went after the gun company as opposed to the
(05:44):
person who actually shot the people, So that was the
big thing about it. And then, like you said, Gene
Hackman works for a company where they try to figure
out because the whole part of jury selection is you want,
obviously people who are going to side with you, and
the way that they figure that out is really crazy.
It's not just one thing, it's are they married, are
they divorced? You know, have they ever had issues with
(06:07):
the cops? Do they like to hunt? Are they totally
against guns? Things like that. So they're putting in like
all this information to figure out who they want on
the jury, and then who the other side wants on.
And then you have a certain number of I don't
know what they call it, not an objection, but you
can basically just get rid of somebody, so you have
like five each. So if I know, you really want
this person on the jury and I don't I'm gonna
(06:29):
kick them off. But you also got to make sure
you use your objections properly. You don't want to get
caught at the end where you don't have any and
they have a couple left.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So it's actually insane, and it's very ignorant of me
because I'm not the brightest man when it comes to
certain things. I can tell you every WrestleMania main event
like this. I had no idea that this was a
thing that happens. They're like, you know, it's like picking
basketball team, like I pick Haim. I just thought they
picked whomever. I didn't know there was a whole process,
so that goes along. I pretty much found out. I
(06:58):
think the other movie, the McConaughey movies they talk about.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
That probably probably I feel like that was the.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
First time I was like, oh, there's like a selection process.
It yeah, like a draft of sorts.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I like court law movies, you know, like cop movies,
but also with the court process of it to not
just straight up cops off.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
There was very little, uh, there's very little about the
actual court case, A lot less than what I thought
there'd be. It was more about the jury selection and
all of that, and again another spoiler, it does have
a satisfying ending, which would have been upsetting if you know,
the gun company got away with it, So I'm glad
they went that route. Every now and then, I do
(07:39):
like a twisted, dark sort of ending, but I was
just kept on waiting for that twist, like what is
the twist going to be?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
But it's also really cool how John Cusack does certain
things to manipulate certain things, like, uh, he says something
to the bailiff and then makes them have lunch at
the restaurant where the judge is going to be and
then they're talking to them and that it's not supposed
to happen and things like that.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
He just I thought, I thought it was a well
done movie.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, he's playing he's playing uh Gene Hackman's character who's
like the evil you know, for the for the gun
company and sort of playing him for a fool. And
and like you said, there's there's there's just great moments
throughout the movie and uh, definitely, uh a movie I
would recommend. And I'm glad you rented it or rather
let me borrow it. So uh, I'm gonna have to
(08:26):
lend you one of my weird, uh disturbing eighties movies
as a as you know, payback, yeah, payback of sorts
like damn sure, you don't underestimate me for health.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Somebody got to that girl.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
He's a hard job to protect.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
There's only so much.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I can do, all right, I can't protect you.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I want you to find her. I want you to
container you're losing me, my journey.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You have destroying all those people's lash anyone.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Know, we don't have anything yet.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Let's move on to the two movies that we did
see in theaters, and now we'll let's start with one
of my favorites of all time, and that would be
Flight Risk with the great Mark Wahlberg. And I love
Mark Wahlberg, and I like Mel Gibson as a director,
and these two coming together, you just knew you were
gonna get absolute gold. And that is what we got
(09:32):
with Flight Risk and delivered on every By the way,
I'm completely making all of this up. This was one
of the most random films that I think I've seen
in theaters, mainly because Mel Gibson is such a good director.
You know, he's made some of the best movies of
the last thirty years, and he's relegated to making something
(09:55):
that would have been a direct to DVD type of movie.
It felt so low budget itself. You know, you get
Mark Wahlberg, who's an A list star. I think he's
doing this as a favor for mel Gibson, is what
I'm gathering. You know, I don't know why he would
choose to do this generic, horribly acted, horribly scripted, low
(10:15):
budget esque type movie. Still had a you know, a
thirty million dollar budget, which is not crazy amount, but
it's not like, you know, a three million, four million
dollar film. It just just an absolute disaster of a film.
But I had actual fun while watching it.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I want to know what they spend thirty million dollars on,
because the whole thing took place in a in a
not even a good plane.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
No, like a little shitty two seater, a pond hopper.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
You know, I think Mark Wahlberg gets at least ten
million dollars, Okay, I think you know, Gibson gets a
decent chunk of change for directing the movie.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Tofer Grace probably still got paid a couple million.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, maybe two or three million. And then you know
there are special effects in there, but nothing stands out
as far as you know. Oh my god, this this
scene must have cost ten million dollars just to make. So.
The basic plot of this movie is is to for
Grace's character is I guess a witness to something that.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
He's an accountant for mob That's what it was, and
he was skimming money and he.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Has to take a flight I guess from alasque.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Hut in Alaska in some ran down hotel motel by
the way.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
The moose or whatever it was in the beginning, Oh,
it was like horrible cgi And Jackie said, I'm like,
that wasn't a real moose. She's like, no, it's terrible,
like a I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It reminded me of the reindeer in the Santa Claus
with Tim Allen. I was like, you're starting your movie
over of this. Yeah, so you know, tofer Grace is
this witness. A cop gets on a plane with him
and Mark Wahlberg who's the pilot, and Mark Wahlberg ends
up being somebody that's not actually the pilot that they thought, and.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
He's hit me with them, yeah, with the.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Mafia, and he has to go kill I guess everyone
involved with this and there's you know, there is some
tension there on the plane, and you know, just based
on the trailer alone, which is unfortunate that there is
this twist of sorts where Mark Wahlberg isn't a good guy.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
We need him may day, may day, we've been compromised.
The pilot's a hitman. Oh the time little pieces, then
the entire Forensis team to identify you.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Eventually they subdue Mark Wahlberg, but then they have to
figure out how to land this plane. So it's, you know,
a cliche sort of story that we've seen from time
to time where they're calling into air traffic control trying
to figure out how to land the plane. But nothing
of this movie was good. But like I said, I
had fun with it. It wasn't boring. Out of all
(12:45):
the movies that we've seen throughout this last year and
a half or so, there's been movies that are just
boring and you know, you're never gonna watch it again,
and there was nothing to enjoy. This I thought was
one of those movies that was so kind of bad
at times. And Mark Wahlberg with his ridiculous haircut and
his stupid accent in his one liners and it's something
(13:06):
that was very nineteen ninety five ish, like just a
shitty nineties sort of movie that I had some at
least enjoyment with it. I know what I was watching
was terrible. It was not a good movie. I couldn't
recommend it to people. But I didn't hate my life
after watching it.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
And it was quick, thank god, it was only an
hour and a half. But I heard that that was
his idea to shave his head like that too, which
I thought was super weird.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah. I don't know what the strategy there was, but
definitely one of the worst movies of the year, and
probably in the running for top ten worst movies of
the year. Well, I have my number one worst movie
of the year, and that is Presence. Yeah, because at
least Flight Risk you had the funniness, the awkwardness, the
(13:50):
one liners, the corniness. With presents, you pretty much had nothing. No,
this is a ghost story that was marketed as the
scariest movie of all time, and the reviews were pretty
solid for the critics. So I'm going into this with
high expectations, and maybe that's my fault, and maybe that's why,
(14:10):
also why I was very disappointed with this movie. But
pretty much nothing happens for the entirety of the movie.
The ghost involved in this ghost story isn't an evil ghost.
The ghost is somebody trying to warn a family about,
you know, a boyfriend of sorts, and nothing happens, nothing happens,
nothing happens, nothing happens. The boyfriend tries to drug and
(14:32):
murder this girl out of nowhere. He's horribly acting throughout this,
you know, hamming it up, saying the whole plot in
front of nobody. He's just like, I like to do
this because mother wouldn't let me do things. And he's
talking to nobody, and then the ghost wakes up the brother,
and the brother tackles the boyfriend out the window and
(14:52):
they die, and that's it. I just smiled the entire movie.
I don't give a shit because nothing happened for an
hour and twenty minutes, and then five minutes you get
everything happening, and it's not exciting and it's not scary,
and it's just a cheap movie. Literally, it costs three
million dollars to make.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Ah. Yeah, you said they made it in like three
weeks too, right, Yep?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
It was I think eleven days.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
It all takes place in the house.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
It's all first person point of view, so you don't
have to have any crazy setup shots because it's all,
you know, a first person, shaky sort of camera thing.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, that was the one thing I actually didn't mind.
I thought that was it was different.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
It's kind of cool, like you're looking from the ghost perspective.
But like you said, everything else about the movie was terrible.
I don't know who could have watched that movie and
build it as a horror or a suspense or a
scary movie, because, like you said, there wasn't one jump scare,
there wasn't anything. The scenes how they did that as well.
(15:47):
You watched the scene the screen turned black and then
it was a completely different scene. It wasn't even like
you were watching a movie. It was like you were
watching thirty scenes that were just like put together.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, acting was terrible.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Nothing good with the what's her name, Lucy Lou Right, Yeah,
I usually think she's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I thought she was terrible.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Well, how many takes could they have done? And it's like, oh,
you have one take because yeah it's you have filming
this in eleven days for whatever reason, and it's not
one of those movies where you're like, oh, that wasn't scary. No,
it's it's like legitimately it's it's not even trying to
be scary. No, at least I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
No. Like the one cool thing was like when the
ghosts moved the books off of her bed like to
the desk, But it wasn't scary. It was just like, oh,
it's cool, it's moving over there or whatever. We're like
the stuff in the closet that fell down. I guess
that was supposed to be scary, but you knew it
was gonna come.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
It just yeah, it wasn't good at all. Like both
the movies we just talked about, flight Risk and Presence
were not good. But I would watch flight Risk twenty
more times before I watched Presence once.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, that's how bad.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
That's a fact right there. I think if you did
get drunk and watch Flight Risk and just laughed at
how stupid it was, you could have some fun with it.
There's nothing that you could do with Presents. And it's
so shocking because I've talked to two of my friends
that do have good tastes in movies, and they both
(17:06):
said Presence was good I'm like, what what are we
watching here? It's just it is what it is. You know,
people have different tastes. I mean, we have different tastes
in movies, so I can't get angry at them. But
it's just just fascinated what I did. I did not
get into it.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Like I actually don't even care what they think was
good about it because I hate it.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I will talk to one of the kids, Uh, he
actually works here at the radio station. I'll ask him,
you know, I've had him on the show before. Maybe
I'll have him back on to to claim his case
and let me know why he thought the movie was good.
But there's so many better horror movies out there. I mean,
like you said, I wouldn't eve classify this as a
horror movie, so I would definitely pass on Presence. I
(17:47):
still probably would pass on Flight Risk. And if you know,
if you want to rent Runaway, Jerry, definitely do that
instead of those movies. That's going to do it for
this edition of Film Real. We will get back next
time and discuss our face favorite action movies of all time.
But I want to quickly talk about Gene Hackman, who
we just so happened to be talking about you know
(18:07):
during this podcast, and by the time I started editing this,
Gene Hackman died. This has been a common theme now
that hopefully doesn't continue with this podcast where I talk
about somebody and then we get news that that person died.
It happened with Carl Weathers. I was talking about the
Rocky franchise and he died immediately after I finished recording
(18:29):
My Rocky Part one, and Gene Hackman just passed away.
Really weird case as to how he died. As of now,
as of this recording, it's not really confirmed what happened,
but him, his wife, and his dog all died and
it's a shame that he passed away. But he lived
a very, very long life and he's one of the
(18:50):
greatest actors of all times. So do yourself a favor
and watch something with Gene Hackman today, whether it's Hoosiers
or The French Connect, Superman or Runaway Jerry, the movie
that we discussed on this edition of Film Reel. Watch
a Gene Hackman movie because you're gonna see just top
tier acting from one of the all time great So
(19:13):
this episode was dedicated to Gene Hackman and his family.
We'll be back, as I mentioned. Next time discussing the
greatest action movies of all time. So long, everybody
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