The Halloween Spectacular

Antonio and Ivanna join the pod to discuss Halloween traditions, costumes, candy and a whole lot more! We also discuss the movies Terrifier 3 and The Substance.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This production is brought to you by the Recess bell.
All right, Antonio, are you ready?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm ready?

Speaker 1 (00:09):
No, I said, are you ready? I'm ready. That's like
that guy, SpongeBob.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
That's right, sponge me boy.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Oh this is a film reel, by the way.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Oh shots of the film reel.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
I'm here with my buddy Antonio. My name is Justin Greenberg,
and there is a construction crew happening here where we're recording.
So it is what it is, but it's going to
play into the Halloween aesthetic. Speaking of SpongeBob, real quick,
they have the krabby Patty at what.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I knew you were gonna mention that. What a shame
that is. Have you tried it yet?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
No, I'm not a Wendy's guy, but I've seen pictures of.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Oh my bad, dude, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Like this is a classy shot. I don't know if
you've listened to the film reel, but like, we don't
go there. Okay, I forgot.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's not crass, unlike most of your show is justsey
You got me confused.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, this is like the sixty minutes of the Greenberg
Universe six. This is the class sea thing. So so
why do you say it's it's not good?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, because they didn't put any effort into it. A
lot of people are saying that Burger King could have
done a better job, honestly, and I agree because I
tried it myself. All right. I'm not just a naysayer
who just agrees with what the what the media wants
to tell you. Okay, it's a simple Dave's double in
my opinion, or a Dave single. It's just a simple cheeseburger,
if you will, it's gotten.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
They have the special sauce, right, the special sauce is.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Just catching a mao, who are we kidding here, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
So it's like a big mac in a sense.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
It kind of is a big mac, but far worse
because it's it's not got like an you have a
special chopped up onions. But again, you know what, I
started to think about it, and I'm like, well, the
krry patty in itself is a simple burger, right, It's lettuce, tomato,
onions and beef patty. And so like, maybe I'm in
the wrong, but I think where they went wrong is
the pineapple frosty, because if they could have made a

(01:49):
kelp shake which is an actual shake in the show.
That would have really been the cherry lat No one
wants Kelp. I mean, I don't even think Kelp exists.
I mean, I mean what you don't like Seaweed? I
think Kelp is a that the cartoon work for Sewe.
It could be wrong, but it's got to be a
real thingthing couples a real thing. Yes, well, I mean
it could have been a green shake. All I'm saying
they could have put a little more effort into it,
Like I get Pineapple is like where SpongeBob lives.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Did they do anything as far as like toys go,
because I know.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
They put stickers in, justin stickers, stickers?

Speaker 1 (02:17):
What these has always been asked? It with its like
happy Meal?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Do they have no money? They can't give a simple
toy out.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
McDonald's has been brilliant with their marketing trap.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
McDonald's right now is cooking. I mean they've got Hello Kitty,
they got Anime Collapse. They're doing two clubs at the
same time. Who are major, like conglomerate like type of
companies that are like getting everyone's attention. Like I don't
know how they're doing it right now. They're on top
right now, with the type of collaborations they're making.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
You know, when I was a kid, actually during October,
McDonald's would do Halloween theme stuff. It was late one
in the chicken McNuggets. What are you making sauce? Are
you using my mummy's.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Hmm?

Speaker 1 (03:03):
And that's actually what we're gonna be talking about was Halloween.
But they used to have the McNugget buddies, these these
like you know, chicken McNuggets, and there are characters, right, yeah,
but you could dress them up in Halloween outfits.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
So we're creative.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I have like a Frankenstein's monster McNugget. I have a
dragon saying those of course I have, Antonio, you.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Definitely put those in your mouth though, let's be honest.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
The McNugget buddies, yeah, I don't think so. Those kids
not with McNugget buddies. Yeah, Like I had these Land
Before Time, which was a movie from the eighties, But
we had these pizza hot toys from them and at
the end of some of their heads were like nipple
shaped things and I would suck on those. But this
is the classy show, anton Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
I forgot. This is the class This isn't after hours.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
No no, no more sucking on nipples of dinosaur heads
on this show. But McDonald's would also give away these
buckets that you could use for trick or treating, like
a pumpkin and a ghost and I.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Did see those. They brought those smart well.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
They brought them back a few years ago, but it
wasn't the same. They didn't have the lids and it
was just a cheaper material because you know, you go
back to the eighties and nineties, they didn't really give
a crap about the environment. Nowadays, they didn't want to
have too much plastic, so the lid was made out
of there.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
You got to save the turtles, save the walruses, Like
who needs all this saving? Right, Savior, say yes, enjoy
your life while you still have it.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
You know, it's embarrassing. So, uh yeah, we're gonna be
talking about Halloween and before we get to some movie discussion,
and Antonio, your girlfriend Evanna is scheduled.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Running a little late.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Typical, yeahypic, I know, women, right right, So we're gonna
talk about just some Halloween memories before we get to
some movie talk. We'll be discussing the movie The Substance
which me and you both loved. I recommended it to you. Yeah,
and uh.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
No you did no, you did it. I recommend it
to you. You almost caught me there, No, no, no, no.
I told you have to watch this movie. And I
think I've been to and no justin, I could be wrong,
but blink twice you liked and the substance as well.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
So I love Come On Substance spoiler alert and blank twice.
I thought it was very good.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
And then the other movie we're gonna be talking about
is Terrifier.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
That's where we start putting the fisticuffs up, you know.
And it's gonna be a big debate.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
And I'm a master debater, so you guys are going
to lose debate. So let's talk about Halloween though, just
the holiday in general. I love this holiday. Yeah, I mean,
what kid wouldn't love Halloween. You get to wear costumes,
you get candy.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
It's just the kid of a dentist wouldn't love Halloween.
I bet.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Also, I've talked to a few people here were recording
at w HPC National Community College's radio station, and I've
talked to students here that said they never went trick
or treating.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
No way, that's true, Zach. Well, I mean, I don't
really know Zach like that, but I know his brother.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
No.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I know No went to treat.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
He did because I talked to Zach about did your
brother go trigger treating? And he's like, yeah, and he
was never fascinated in that. But it made no sense
because Zach is he's an outgoing guy when it comes
to like dressing up. He was the team mascot apparently.
Really yeah, that's awesome for the high school. So I
don't understand why he wouldn't like Halloween, but I love it.

(06:12):
I have so many fond memories of going around my neighborhood.
Right when school ends. You go around the neighborhood with
you and your buddies, maybe an older brother, and you
just gather candy. You get giant book bags filled with candy,
and at the end of the night, you gather around
your living room. You have some TV shows on in
the background.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
And you start eating the candy.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
You eat it, but then you trade it. Because I
didn't like certain candies as a kid.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
I definitely trade I traded for all the Whoppers, the
Whoopers or Whoppers Whoppers like the Whoppers I like them
as a kid, but now I grew up and I'm like,
these are awful. How did I like these a kid?
No one ever wanted to give them to me. Yeah,
they're not worth anything.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Whoppers was definitely on the trading block.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Very lower level market candy.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
What do you have? All right, I'm not just talking candy. Yeah,
you're not getting sour patch kids on Halloween as far
as like Halloween can Yeah, what are you putting?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Your your top two or three I'm gonna start with
as an adult. Yeah, well I guess I don't go
trick or treating. But I didn't like Snickers as a kid,
But that mean either as an adult now Snickers are fantastic.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I mean as the age I am now I see
it in any machine. I'm like, this will hold me
down for the whole ship to work. Yes, Snickers right.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Here, A lot of lot of It's got everything I need. Yeah, exactly.
I love the Milky Way.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Okay, Well you lost me there. I had nothing but Nugat.
I'm not a big fan of the nugat.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
What about kitkats?

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Kitkats are definitely you know what, I loved kit kats.
Don't like them now anymore as much as I did before.
We'll give me my top three right now are no,
let's talk about what electric treating on. My top three
during trick or treating was the Whoopers for some reason,
the Whoppers, right, and then it was definitely a Reese's Cup,
and then it had to be like peanut m and ms.
Those are my top three nowadays. Can't stand Whoppers all right,

(07:52):
Reese's Cup, it's my still my number one. It's holding
it down.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Over the Reese's Pieces because I like Ese's pieces a lot.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I like Riesa's pieces, but I don't need mess with
them if they like they're combined with popcorn or something
else pieces, you know what I mean, Like it's just
like keep eating those and just like these aren't like Skittles,
you know, you know what I mean. Like there's a
lot going on right now.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
What about you didn't mention any sour candy because to me, yeah,
there was like two that were really around during that time,
and one of them is not really even sour. It's
it's uh Smarties.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, which you know was it the heart Smarties?

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Because I like the chewy Smarties. Those are my favorites.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Those are Sweethearts.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh well, there we go.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, well Sweethearts were fantastic. I think Sweethearts were the
top tier of sour candy. Smarties aren't really sour. They're
like they're basically like you're eating chalk.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, but I kind of like that. You
got so do you like tombs?

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Also love toms and they have different you know, themes.
Now there's like proper movie.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
All types of flavor toms. I'm like, they'd all just
taste like chalk. I don't know how you could taste anything.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
I love them, but yeah, I loved gathering candy and
you know, you might be blessed with the house that
gives you a full sized candy bar. Not in my neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I didn't find too many of those, unfortunately, but I
would hear.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Stories, you know what we we would find there was
a neighbor around the block and a half from my
house that would give away drinks.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
So we'd have really like two leaders are like just
soda cans.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Cans of fruit punch. And that was a good hands
staymark like halfway, you know you're getting a little tired,
you head to Jone's house on the corner of Pine
Street and remember, yeah, I'll never forget that.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
I mean you mentioned earlier how you would go trick
or treating with friends and things like that. I never
went with friends because I didn't really have too many
friends growing up, So like I would go, yeah, I
would go with cousins and family, and like I would
always make them come. I would always make them come.
I would always make them come to like where I lived,
And I don't know how that happened, but it always
happened that way. And I would hear stories about how,
like the people that I went to school with, they

(09:50):
would go all the way to like the Hewlett Harbor,
which is like the rich area, so that's where you
get the full sized candies. And I'm like, we should
plot to do that. But the same time, I wasn't
initiative enough to get these candy like get these candy bars.
I was like, this isn't at the end of the day,
like it doesn't really matter, Like I don't really think
I'm gonna walk all that far, or like care about
going all that the distance, or like bothering my mom

(10:11):
was about bothering my mom even though she didn't probably
wouldn't be bothered by that, but I'd be like, no,
just forget, let's just just enjoy the night. Whatever houses
are nearby, Like it really isn't that big of a deal.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Now you have a younger sister, did you have to?

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Did you have to?

Speaker 2 (10:23):
She was probably the only friend I had trigger treating
every year.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, no, she would.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
She would have come with me every time, and uh, honestly,
she would want to take lead, and I would let
her because she was too stubborn, you know what I mean.
I was like, you know what, go ahead, take the lead,
you tell us where to go.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
When do you think is too old to go trigg
or treating? We start a great question, we stopped. I
want to say sixth grade was the last year we
really went.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
You know what's crazy? Like I think I also stopped
in the middle school, and I really missed out because honestly,
like at the end of high school should be the
last time you trigger treat. Like a senior in high school.
Sure they may seem old, but they're still okay to
treating because they're in high school. That's still not like
an adult. You're still not eighteen. You still can't buy
lotto tickets like I think it's very reasonable to going

(11:07):
as a senior if.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I was a short person, Like we're talking, you know,
munchkin levels. Yeah, what is stopping me from putting on
a costume every year every year?

Speaker 2 (11:18):
I guess facial here, I guess facial wear asks you
put on a little voice. I guess the issue is,
like you'd have to go by yourself, like who, how
would you find that a little posse to like, you know,
blend in with.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
There's gotta be Facebook groups for the unkins. We're hitting
up Pine Street. I heard they have full size sonas.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
I just got the latest Intel.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
So I I loved that aspect of being a kid
and doing the the treating. But then there was also
the tricking aspect, and that didn't really happen until middle
school high school, where you would go around with shaving
cream and eggs. I don't know if you if that
was something you guys.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I was definitely like, I was definitely heard about the
stories when I was in middle school because I would
go to like I would be in sports in middle school,
so like most of the time, Halloween would sometimes fall
on the day before we have a game or the
day before we have a practice, like early in the
morning on a Saturday. So I would show up and
these kids would have like nasty marks on their face
and like something would happen. They would explain all these

(12:19):
stories about how they went. They do all these tricking
stuff and the egging and the teepeeing, and like I
thought that I would feel envious, but at the end
of day, I just felt like I don't want to
deal with those poor people that live in the houses.
Like I'd feel terrible for the victims that they would
have to get egged. Like I wouldn't want to clean
up egg It seems like the worst and to clean up.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, it is something as an adult now, you definitely
regret doing things like that. I mean, egging is is
that's something that stains the house. I remember egging my
body Lewis fell the Benito's house. Yeah, and there were
egg stains there forever.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Oh my god, it's terrible. Yeah, because the weather might freeze,
who knows what could happen. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
No, and you know something like toilet paper, shaving cream
that's sort of harmless, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, take
that down. But I do have memories of walking around
neighborhoods and people doing worse stuff than that, you know,
demolishing property taking, you know, decorations.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Some delinquents on your on your side of neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Well, there was a block it was called Harvard Harvard
and it was in Rockville Center, and it was the
stuff of legend you would always hear about like this
is just destruction. This block is known for the tepeeing
and the egg gang. If you're walking down this block,
like be prepared to be assaulted. So you know, I

(13:35):
only I only did that a few times.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
What would you dress up as? Is justin as a kid,
you know, were your type of person that always wear
the same costume every year.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Never, you know, I have all the videos of me
dressing up, so anything from the Devil, the Devil when
I was very young army man, which I don't know
would be allowed in today's day and age. I'm walking
around the neighborhood with a gun. You had Captain America.
Oh before you know Captain America. I dressed up as
Captain America in kindergarten, So this.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Is oh wow, you were you were in the No, yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Know, I'm an old man Antonio. So this was like
nineteen ninety three, I'm dressing up as.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
You were the first Captain America. You were like you
were just frozen, like you were the real one.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Pretty much. Uh yeah, I loved you know, the superhero fits,
all that jazz, anything violent. Also, I would steal out
of my brother's costume. So my brother would dress up
as you know, the Grim Reaper, but then he'd have
the costume and you know, two years would go by
and go I'll be the Grim Reapers.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Oh, I could put a Scream mask on and be
Scream you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
That was the big That was like in ninety six.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
That was huge, like with the time you were growing up.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, when Scream came out, I vividly remember walking down
Maple Avenue in my town and seeing like five or
six Scream masks.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Did you ever see like the bloody one where you
pump it up?

Speaker 1 (14:55):
That was the best one. Oh man, I wish I
had that. I wish I had Dad.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Got that for me and he was like he was like, listen, Champ,
this is the coolest thing I'll probably ever get you.
And I didn't know the movie. I understand why was Coole,
So I was like, oh wow, thanks pops. I appreciate it,
and I'm just like, what is this, man, I'm wearing
this and then looking back at it now, I'm like, wow,
I really missed out. Man, That's probably one of the
coolest things it so ever have like as a souvenir,
as like a thing to keep. Like now, you said,

(15:19):
like a lot of the costumes you were like was
when you were growing up, like as a kid, like
going to middle school, high school. But did you ever
have like Halloween fun as a college student or like,
you know, in your early twenties or like, you know,
things like that.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
You know what, not really not in the sense of
really stressing up. And I do regret that. You know,
maybe I went to a bar here and there and
put on a costume every now and then, but I
sort of missed out.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
You know.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
I went to college at Nasau Community College, so there's
not dorms or anything. It's not like, oh, here's a
college Halloween money.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Your friends went to college as a way that you
could have visited or.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Non really you know a lot of them stayed local,
but I love doing other Halloween activities. So there's a
place locally near us called Hick's nursery and they have
like an animatronic exhibit. And I love doing things like
apple picking and pumpkin picking and apple you know, carving
up pumpkins and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
So you would have to do that with like a
date or somebody, right, like you would just do by yourself.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
You would think you would have to do that to date,
But no, I'm the lone man at Hicks. They have
like the they have the animatronic show that's meant for
like four year olds. Yeah, that's what I want to say.
Like there's like there's like a story. It's like Otto
was angry this fall day and I'm like reading it.
I'm like, I always angry this fault day. He's just reading.
He's a big kid, just thrown man with a mustache

(16:34):
trying to read. But I I mean, I'm not gonna
not do it.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
No, I love it. I am the envy you for
it because sometimes it's it's hard for me to even
eat alone. I'm just like, oh man, what people can
think about me? And no, it's good. It's good to
have like that moment to yourself and like not worry
about it because like, at the end of the day,
you're the only company you really need.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
And you don't have to worry about entertaining. Okay, I
don't have to talk. I don't have to tell you.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yes, First states are hard to like do all that
stuff in Like I'm like, yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
What's your favorite movie, what's your favorite color? What do
you like to do? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Just could we just eat just one long icebreaker? Like
come on now, brutal.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
But let's get back to the Halloween. So I'm assuming
since you brought that up, you've probably done some.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
I've had, because I see here that you have a
little question here the best costume ever had? I think
my best costumes were when I was in college and
like visiting my friend in Albany, so like I went
to U Albany for like when I was a freshman
in college at NCC and I dressed up as like
six ' nine, the rapper, the one that snitched. I
don't know if you know it justin he was like

(17:33):
he was he had the rainbow hair. Yes, so like
my hair was braided, like I had really long hair,
and I braided my hair just like like six '
nine with the intention to maybe dress up as him,
but no one believed me. So I was like, well,
Halloween is here. I've got this Halloween party in you Albany,
I'm gonna commit to it. I'm gonna do it. So
I sprayed my hair like rainbow colored. My dad was like,

(17:53):
what are you gonna wear? Like, how is that gonna work?
And so I wore a prison outfit because he went
to jail at that time, and then I wore it,
and like, looking back those pictures, I'm like, Wow, this
was the one time where I committed to a costume.
I really tried it out, and I didn't realize how
much fun I could have just trying to dress up
or like cosplay it. Maybe really think about like maybe
I would enjoy cosplaying. Maybe I would enjoy dressing up
for like some cool things is Halloween? Like painting my face,

(18:15):
getting really into it.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Maybe you could be a furry all right?

Speaker 2 (18:18):
I don't know about all that.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
I sounded like he had a blest. Maybe you should
try it out.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
I don't think Phraser cosplay. I think that's their alter
ego justin.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Are there any moments that stick out as far as
I can't believe that was a costume because I have
one that I'll never forget. I'm not gonna say the
young boy's name because I think he's Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
I think a wife. I think I remember the story
you told me. I think you said on the Warning
Show one time. I still don't believe it either.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
I have video of it because my mom would go
to the Halloween party at our.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
No one stopped this boy. That's the type of day
we were in. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, So it was the mid nineties, different time, I suppose, Yeah,
and there was a basketball player, Dennis Rodman. Dennis Rodman
is a black gentleman for people that don't.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Know pulverizing, yes, and the character.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
And this young Jewish boy decided, I'm going to dress
up as Dennis Rodman face painting all. So he did
blackface in the mid nineties. Oh and he had the
green hair and the tattoos and the nose ring and
all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
I mean, he committed, that's for sure. But it's not
going back after that.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
No. But but I don't even blame him because he's
eight years old, nine years old. How could his parents
approve of this.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
They probably just thought that he wasn't get away with
it because of his age, and they didn't really care
enough to like teach him what it was or do
the whole I mean, I still think about that. I'm like,
that's come on now.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Because it's just you can hear during the filming, because
my mom has a film. You could hear another parent
saying like that's terrible. I would love to know what
the teachers and the principal, because the principal was a
black woman, Yeah, what did she think about this young
kid doing that? Nothing was brought up about it. This
is obviously for social media or anything happened, uh, but

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just so bizarre that something like that could happen a
lot of controversial Halloween costumes obviously happened. I can remember
a kid dressing up as Bill Clinton after the Monica
Lewinsky incident, and he literally was wearing that's really good.
He was wearing underwear to school in middle school with
the Monica with the Bill Clinton mask.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, yeah, that's well, that's outrageous.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
I mean, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
I've seen people wear boxers though to like the school
as a costume. I've always been like, wow, it's so edgy,
that's so risky, Like, holy moly.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Was there one costume? Did anyone else in your school?
Do the black nose or no.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
No, no, Well, people didn't wear costumes to school honestly,
unless they were doing the boxer trait because they, you know,
they want to press off the ladies.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
They didn't wear it too like elementary school though.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
No, it was high school, like this was high school,
and like some of them would controlled, but some of
them wouldn't know.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
But I'm saying, when you went to elementary school, people
wear costume.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
I really don't remember. I bet they did, but we
had like how you have that memory like that? I
can't remember it at all.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Because we would have the parade, like I mentioned, we'd
go to the auditorium'd be like an assembly. We'd listen
to Ghostbusters and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Always your yeah, she's here.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Okay, we're gonna pause this this conversation. We'll pick it
back up. We'll talk some more Halloween things, and then
we're gonna talk about Terrifier three and the substance. Hey now, hey, now, hey,
now all right. We are back right, So we're gonna
pick it right back up as we continue our discussion
with Halloween as the construction crew.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Wow, they know we're doing this right now, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
They are anti Halloween. We got Antonio. We got Antonio's
not Imaginary Girl Imaginary.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Very real unfortunately, and we're just talking about Halloween traditions.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
We're just talking about our favorite candies and costumes and whatnot.
And we got up to the point of conversation that
we were just talking about what are some of the
favorite things to watch during Halloween, not including just movies?
You know TV shows? Is any Halloween special that's a
must I mean, I'll start off, I gotta watch The
Great Pumpkin, the Charlie Brown special, that's always a must watch.

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And I'm a Simpsons fan to the day I.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Die, and so that's a good one. I forgot. I
forgot about those.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
They got the Treehouse of Horror special. They have a
new one each year. Although the show has dipped the
mentally in quality, those Treehouse of Horror episodes are always
something I have to watch. So those are two that
definitely stick out. Well.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Ivanna put me onto this show called like Over the
Garden Wall. I was about to mention that, which is
like a series that's like what is like seven episodes?
Eight episodes?

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, it's about like nine episodes.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Like nine episodes are throw all like twenty minutes fifteen
minutes each and they all tie up at the end.
It's like it's just literally just meant for Halloween, just
kind of like the what's called the Pumpkin when you
were talking.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Just has such an autumn ambiance. Like literally the music
it's something that I literally put on when I study too,
so like the soundtrack for the whole show, it's amazing. Also,
like the character building throughout the show, it just makes
it very interesting in general.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Where's something like that available?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Was it Hulu? I think it was Hulu, right, I.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Think it was on It probably switches from stream you
don't know, you know how the streaming services, but the.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
I believe last year was on Hulu. So if it's
on Hulu now you can find it. You'd also find
like the complete uh like series, like on a disc,
like on just the Amazon or something like that. Because
it's it's it's like only nine episodes.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
It's honestly worth to own. My friend she owns the
CD or I guess like DVD of the show, and
she placed it in her car and we watched it together.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Whiles Yeah yeah, no, not while driving.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Okay, let me let me uh we just you know,
just sitting down in a parking lot.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, yeah, now it pauses once you drive, so it's smart,
it's smart. But yeah, no, I also like told Ianna
about like American Horror Story because that my my aunt
put me onto that when I was younger, as well
as The Walking Dead, which happens to go on once
October begins, but not anymore because that show is like
went on different spirals.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Now I've heard that dipped in quality.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, I mean the the main show ended and then
became three different shows with three different characters, so it's
just too much to follow. I moved on from that.
But yeah, American Heart Story to be really good, it's
not actually not good anymore. And also dipping quality, what
do you expect? You know what I mean? These these
same thing with the Simpsons. You know, it shows if.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
You go on, you know, for that long, there's no
way you could keep up that consistency, not just in
you know, movies and TV shows, but sports, you know, athletes,
let's stay on too long. Singers. It's very rare for
a musical act to put out consistent work for thirty
forty years, so it just it's it's bound to happen.
But let's get into the main event. Actually, no, quickly, quickly,

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because we don't we have limited time. And yeah, we're
gonna just talk about movies real quick that aren't Terrifier
three and that aren't the substance. Is there a movie
that you have to put on every Halloween season? I'm
gonna throw out my two right now. Ghostbusters number one.
I have to watch Ghostbusters, even if it's on TV
and it's in the middle of the movie. I'm watching

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it till the end of the movie. And then as far.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
As which goes like the riginal Ghostbusters original.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Not the women Ghostbusters from two years ago, and as
far as more of a whole or type of movie,
because Ghostbusters is more of a comedy. Yeah, I love
the Evil Dead series.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Oh man, did you like the remake?

Speaker 1 (25:07):
I thought it was fine. Yeah, But if I am
gonna watch an Evil Dead, it's gonna be Evil Dead too,
which I think is one of the top tier eighties
horror movies of all time.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
I only watched the last one. Honestly, I think I
was pretty like impressed that everybody died in the freaking movie.
I couldn't understand, Like, what, what do you mean, there's
no happy ending.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
There's never happy end.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
And they killed the kids.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yep, they killed the kids every time for terrifyer. But
I also showed you the the second to last one,
the one that came out, Yeah, which was pretty good too.
Remember where they were the rehabilitation I mean the rehab woman. Yeah,
and that was good one too, which the same thing happened.
Everyone died except for the main person.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
You like that in movies when everybody dies, it just
feels like, wow, why did I even watch this? For like,
just give me the synopsis already.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
But you know, I hear that, I hear that. But
but also when it has that ending, I think a
movie like that, when when it doesn't end happy, that's
the movies you tend to think think about I think
about that. I can't believe they did that. I can't believe.
You know, how do they do that? You know, whenever
you watch a Jurassic Park movie, for instance, you know, okay,

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the fat guys dying, the balding guy's dying, but like
the kids are gonna live and good looking, you know, Chris,
You're not gonna kill Chris.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Bra like Fasten and various Okay, the guys driving the
cars will win. Yeah, driving the the you know, the
the worst cars will lose.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
That's what I've always wanted to make a movie. And
I've actually mentioned this before.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, surprise you haven't, Like, you know, I want a movie.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
I want a movie where the biggest asshole is the
only guy to survive, just like a racist, misogonistic guy,
because no one would know.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, and in the very last second you kill like
the final girl leader. Yeah, that would be amazing.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I have the feeling I've watched that before.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
I don't think which one do you think?

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Like a like a really bad character, just like staying
alive until the end?

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Right? I mean we watched Righteous Gemstones, which was kind
of like that. All none the characters are redeemable in
that show.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
I guess you're right. I was gonna mention like freaking
like a bad endings. They upset me. So I don't
like this.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Is there is there a movie that you guys think
of that you have to watch Halloween season.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
I've been showing her all these slasher movies because she
hates slashers, and I'm go like, no, no, no, slash are
the best movies to watch during Halloween.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
They get straight to the.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Point, you know what I mean, and you can watch
the next one and you're not thinking about like, oh,
what's gonna happen next? Like you, No, you don't have
to watch all the Friday the thirteenth or all Diame
Man on Streets. You just watch the coolest one. In
my opinion, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
I'll just watch montages of All Murder exactly.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
You can't beat Nightmare Before Christmas, though, that is my movie.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
I haven't actually seen that at all. What I've never
seen that movie.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
It's in theaters right now.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
I've been telling you, yea, I'm talking about about that,
like we should go watch theaters.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I've never seen, but it's great.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
I would love to watch it on theaters. It's going
to be spectacular.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
It's one that you could actually, you know, watch from
now chill Christmas. You know, you can watch it October
killed like that.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
I don't know how you found out that concept, Like
I don't make a movie that's like watchable throughout four
solid months.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah. But you know the funny thing is he didn't
even direct that movie produced. Yeah it's Tim Burton.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Why is his name all the like?

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Because he's the guy presenting the movie. It's his story,
but he did not direct it, and there's actually a
lot of controversy.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
I found Ou'm gonna fant Timburan pretty recently. I found
all the things he did and how silly the Beetlejuice
was when it came out, how you know what I mean,
all the little things he put in there.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
A lot of creepy stuff there. But let's get to
the main event. We gotta talk about Terrifier three, and
we got to talk about the substance, and we got
less than twenty minutes, so let's get right to Terrifier three.
So I know, Ivanna, you are very adamant that this
is a good movie. I'm gonna let you have the floor.
What what aboutist movie did you like?

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Well? First of all, I love the character that must
be the main thing, Art the clown. Art the Clown. Yes,
he's a character that I actually really like, just because,
like I never really grew up with a slasher villain
that I actually liked. I never really care about Chucky
the screen series and about Jason or any of those. Honestly,
I feel like since I was able to really like

(28:53):
start the beginning, of this, like, uh, like I guess
I franchise or whatever. I was able to start it,
I would able to get involved with the character more.
And I just like how he's like a demonic clown.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
I I will have no issue with that character of
Arthur Clown. I think he's a fantastic villain. He's got
a unique look to him. I think he's he's evil,
but he also makes you laugh a bit, so you
could put him in the same vein as a Freddy
Krueger or Chucky exactly.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
But the issue is that I have is the surrounding
plot with him. I don't really know too much about him,
and not necessarily that you need to know everything to
sometimes less there's more, but I wish we figured out
and maybe I'm missing it, maybe I'm not into the
lore too much, but what is this guy's motivation? What
is the purpose of Arthur Clown?

Speaker 2 (29:39):
So I think you're definitely like missing out only because
they haven't told us everything quite yet, like they want
this to be one big cinematic like masterpiece, like we've
gotten hints throughout every movie. But you know, you explain
how terrified too, Like you know off the area you
said how long it was or how like annoying that was.
But the reason why I was so long is because
of how much Plotter really you know, gave, you know,

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so like you know, you asked me what the motivation
is on this on the sheet and I thought about it,
and I was like, well, you know, Art the Clown,
much like Michael Myers, is like the entity of evil, right,
like you know in all Hollows, Eve. It's just the
original time where he came out and appeared on the screen.
He was always someone who was like immortal. Basically, he
never was a real person. He was just like the
embodiment of evil. And then this last movie we find

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out that he's also maybe a demonic type of person,
you know what I mean, So he's somewhat.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Of demon Well it was hinted that he was human
at some point. Yeah, from what I've seen, because I
love watching like you know, like dissections of the movies. Right, apparently,
Art the Clown starts off as human in the first movie,
and you know how he gets killed at the end
of that movie, right then he comes back to life,
and that's when he comes back to life as a
demonic creature. And yes, when he sees that little girl

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who is the kind of like the entity that wanted
to keep Art the Clown alive because he's the pale.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Faced girl is the one.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yeah, so that's now he's immortal and now he he
he can cause some mayhem.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
And then in this last movie, you saw that the
father of Sienna, who was the main protagonist of the movie,
he somewhat had a connection to Art the Clown or
was seeing the future happenings, what was gonna happen to
her and her his family, and he crafted this weapon
for Sienna, and it was apparently forged by you know,

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an angel, like specifically, like the Virgin Mary is what
it's what you saw in the Terrifier three movie. So
there's a lot of story going on that I think
you're missing justin because like it's really hard the pieces.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
I haven't actually seen the first movie because I didn't
even know it was a movie, you know, it was
just it was just Terrifier two was in theaters. It
was like, I don't even know what Terrifier one is.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, yeah, no, Terrifier. It wasn't called Terifier. Its just
called Terrifier. And yeah it was I don't know if
it went straight DVD, but I think it might have
been in select theaters because again it's a very low
budget movie. It doesn't look the best. Quite honestly, it
wasn't the best either.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Like let me let me say Terrifier wasn't like the
best as in plot wise, it had almost no plot
the characters who were not up and that's exactly why
the director wanted to develop the characters in the second movie,
and that's exactly why we got Cna, which honestly is
one of my favorite like like main characters like girls.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah, well she's she's very much in the same vein
of as a Sydney maybe from Uh. That's good stream
because she's not like a damsel in distress. She's gonna
fight back, she's gonna try and you know, she also.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Isn't like heavily sexualized like most of these like girl
final girls in the movies. You know.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah, that's something I like.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Which is a negative I have written.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
No, But also Terrifier one, I think to mention that
it also introduces the character that you see a lot
of Terrifier three, Veronica. You see Terrifier one has the
victim in the very end who's like completely destroyed her face,
and like it's so she's in the first she's in
the first movie, she's the victim of the first movie.
She appears only a little bit in the second movie,
and now she's all in the third movie, and she

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serves as this person who's looking for a body, much
like how Chucky is looking for a new body to
possess and take over because the body she has is
just mutilated and destroyed, and she wants to become like
stronger or just to have a new life because clearly
she's like affected by the fact that she's very like
you know what, she thinks to be ugly and horrendous looking.
Now here's Here's.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
One of the things I don't like about the series
is I don't think it's visually interesting to look at.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
You know.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
I was actually disappointed with the movie Long Legs that
came out earlier this year.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Oh yeah, but visually that's a hot take also.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
But visually it's a very good looking movie. The lighting,
the shadows, the camera angles. This seems very cheap in
that sense. It looks like it is a direct to
video type of movie. It doesn't have that same and
the budget is probably equal to Long Legs. But I
guess so much for Terrified.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, like not even that high, which is very shocking
because you would think with all the prosthetics used and
like the blood and yeah, just everything that was in
this movie, we think it would cost some more.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
But it made a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
It made so much money even though it's not even
gonna be in theaters for that long since it is
like a not rated movie and you know, highly crass.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Long Legs was not an expensive movie either. Really, it
was under ten million dollars.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
And that's that's surprising for a movie like that.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
And that's with getting Nicholas KG.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
He's a big budget guy.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
He's a big budget guy. Compared to anybody from Terrifier,
it's pretty much all unknowns at this point. Here, here's
another just aspect of Terrifier that maybe you guys could
talk about. Undisensitized to violence. At this point, I've seen everything.
I've seen real life violence. You know, we watch mixed
martial arts and you see people's legs get snapped in

(34:32):
the NFL. I've seen wrestling matches where people are stapling
and light tubes and all the stuff that's happening. Yeah,
so when there is violence in movies nowadays.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
It's not only a selling point.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
No, to me, it's just it's not It's not what
it once was.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
It was definitely the main selling point of these movies.
I feel like with each movie getting bigger than the last,
you see.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
The violence that's in Terrifier, though, I feel like it's
very much artistic, I don't know, interesting from a point
of view of somebody who likes like drawing or crafting
and things like that. Like, I feel it's awesome, like
how the producer team was able to develop these bodies
and like the prosthetics and all that. Like that takes
a long time in a lot of work and a

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lot of like you know, like making it look as
realistic as possible, and I feel like they did achieve that. Honestly,
that's kind of like my favorite part of the movie.
Not in the sense that I'm a sick.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Person, but no, I mean I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Artistically.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
I love the work they put.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, although although kills are all just machetes or like
crossbows or spears.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Every now and then he'll you know, free someone's head
and smash it.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah, but the best days of movie.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Although I am desensitized to it. That to me actually
is the best part about it. I do see it
as a form of art. And the prosthetics, you know,
the the lack of CGI. They're creating this. They are
making sets, they are making lavish costumes. The blood is there,
it's not a CGI blood, which you do see in
a lot of movies. So I do appreciate that. I

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will say that the acting isn't the best. I think
Sienna is actually the actress who plays her. She She
and Art the clown or by far the true best.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Played by Lauren Laverera excuse me, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
But everyone else comes across like they're in like a
Disney show.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
I'll tell you what. This Terrified three had one of
the worst characters of the whole franchise in that cheerleader girl,
the one that was trying to get with the podcast. Yes,
maybe it made me hate being someone that wants to
do a podcast because I was like, is that what
I'm gonna look like? Because this girl wouldn't stop making
it all about like it's just such a caricature, you
know what I mean. She was really bad portrayed or
I don't know if it was the script they gave her.

(36:37):
I don't know if that was the point of that,
but yeah, I think it's the point that it was
rough every time she was on the scene.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Well, I think it's trying to speak about like, you know,
like podcast culture and like just in general insensitivity. Yeah,
the true crime people, Uh, the insensitivity that comes with
talking about other people's debts and uh, just like horrible
situations that we're in as in like some type of entertainment.
So I feel like it was like kind of like

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the best option to just kill off that character and
just give it exactly what she wanted because she she
wanted to know how it was to be right in
front of Arctic Clown, and so I thought that was
pretty pretty funny, honestly, in a good jag sorry jab
at the true crime community, because honestly, it's getting out
of control.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Even not even true crime community, the whole world. You know,
I'm not going to get too much into it, but
the singer Liam Page just passed away, and man, you
know TMZ is releasing pictures and stuff like that. So
I mean it's it's sort of playing into that culture
of everybody wants to hear these and see these disgusting things. So,

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you know, I think the character is purposely written that way.
But someone like the brother in this movie, I think
is a terrible actor.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
To get my favorite character, your favorite terrible actor. Terrible actor, Oh,
terrible actor. Yeah, I think you can get.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
That's my little brother. That's exactly what I feeled when
I watched Terrifier too. I was like, Oh my god,
that's my little brother.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Now. I don't think we're gonna get to some spoilers.
I don't think the character.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Is dead, Honestly, I don't know if I feel like
he just got scripted out because of the fact that
like he's either busy with like I apparently I learned
more about him, right. His name is Elliott Fullan Fullham Fulham,
and he's apparently as well as a musician as he
is an actor. You know, he's new in this acting
stuff like this is again this is a very like,
you know, homegrown movie. And he was in the second

(38:23):
one and he was like, well, now you have to
be in the third one. I don't know if it
is that he doesn't want to be in the movies.
I don't know if he's busy with like type of
like like let's it called the timing of the of
the schedule. But yeah, no, I hope to see him
not dead. I really hope not, because it's kind of
a big negative to this movie. And well, they did
really show me out. They never showed his death. That's
why in movies you always have to see the dead
body to actually believe it. So I think he'll come

(38:45):
back in some sense, even if it's in a flashback.
I don't think that's the last we'll see of that character.
I really hope not.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
But this movie did set up that they are making
a fourth movie. I know they. Director already announced it.
He said he might make a few of them. So
we'll see where this, you know where this franchise goes.
But I will say that I am happy that a
an original story, an original creation, even though it's the
third movie. But something original. You know, we're now regurgitating.

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This isn't Friday the Thirteenth, Part forty three. This isn't
another reboot of Halloween like.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
We're getting the remake of Chucky with Ai.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
We're getting something fresh.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
So that's exactly where I love it. I love anything fresh,
like anything that actually shows me something different, that isn't
like the last like five movies we've watched for the
couple like ten years, Like.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, yeah, all those like Conjuring and all those movies,
they all blend together.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
And so happy that that sub genre stopped. We're not
seeing too many possessed movies anymow.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
They're the worst. Every possession movie that's not The Exorcist
is terrible, Like.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
The Nun too, is atrocious, kind of that movie.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Horrible, horrible. Let's get to one of my favorite movies
of the year, probably my favorite movie of the year,
The Substance, which I thought was a beautiful looking movie visually,
this is the type of movie that I love to watch.
The practical effects are there. You got these great prosthetics
top ten your sound like the music and the audio
and the visuals of this movie meant to be seen

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on the big screens.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
It's very well produced movie overall.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
And it's you know, it's really poking fun of the
culture of today where women really might not feel that
especially actresses. Actresses have a shelf life, and it's it's
always been talked about how men could be leading men
into their sixties and tom cruises, you know, in movies
he's dating like a thirty year old and he's playing
that he's like in his early forties even though he's

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sixty years old.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
The fact they got me more for this is so perfect,
Like that's amazing to me. They got Demi Moore, who's
been in so many other movies who we haven't seen since,
which is really like, well, hold on, this is kind
of like a many a reason as to why we
haven't seen her, Like this isn't this is like a
real like eye opening thing.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Yeah, it's definitely a role that she I wish I
could talk to her, but this is definitely something that's
probably spoke to her.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
She actually like developed the character to like as like
an actress as well, So there's a lot of them
more into this character as well, like being portrayed in
the movie, which honestly gives me like more of a
perspective of like what she's been going through, Like is
this actually like you know, how she's been feeling and
how deeply it ties in with the movie.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
So the basic plot of the Substances, there's an actress
who was famous in the eighties and then it's it's
modern day and she's basically being phased out of her job. Essentially,
I'm assuming she started out as an actress, but I
guess for the last couple of years she's doing like
a Richard Simmons exercise thing.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Do you see the opening as her star being put
onto the you know, the Hollywood Holly whatever it is,
And so then you see that become like slowly weathered away,
and then it opens up you finally see Demmi Moore,
her character Elizabeth Sparkle, playing like what Justin just said,
this workout influencer type of thing. And this movie is
about the eighties, right or is it? Is it not

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in the eighties.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
The early part is in the eighties, and then it
flash forwards to modern day, but it has an eighties estetically, Yeah,
the music and the visuals and the costumes all our eighties.
But it definitely is modern day because there is modern
technology throughout it. But the basic plot is anymore, she's
being phased out, she's getting older, so she somehow finds
out that there's this miracle drug, the substance that could

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make her young again. But basically what happens is her
body goes like just numb and falls to the ground
and a separate body comes out of her body. Yep,
and that is played by Margaret Margaret Quayley, who is
brilliant in this movie and.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
She was in recently in The Kinds of Kindness, So yeah,
and that movie. She's also once pinds on Hollywood as
one of the Charlie Manson girls.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, she's got a big future, I think for sure.
But essentially the main plot is there are these two characters.
They're both that character, Elizabeth Sparkle, but she creates an
alter ego she gets she gets the job that Demi
Moore was once had, her character once had, and they
sort of go back and forth. You can only be
that character for a number.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Of but they're they're reminded at the end of day
that they are one. There are no two people. They
are one, yes, Like they're a semiotic relationship in a
And like I.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Liked how that was mentioned honestly, like multiple times. It
was like reminding us, like the audience too, because like
it felt like we were kind of like in the
character's head of like just seeing like people attacking each other,
and then the once she calls, we're like, oh wait, right,
they're the same, Like it kind of goes back into that.
I also really liked actually the the allegory of like
the brutalization of women's bodies. Yeah, I thought that was

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really like it really does. When I watched this movie,
it really hit home, honestly, because the theme is it
goes beyond just being like a I guess like the
shelf life on Hollywood, right, It goes more deeply into
how women see themselves and see ourselves as some type
of product that goes affective with ages.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
There was a really good scene where she's about to
go on the date after all with someone who she
thought lesser of herself because he was this average Joe
who's older now balding, you know, just simple, simple guy.
But but he called her beautiful and so she was
ready to go and have a day with him because no,
she didn't feel that way by like herself. Like she's
in the lowest point in the movie and she's ready.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
I was just very self conscious about the way she looks.
And again, I mean, Ivan I made a great point.
It's not just about Hollywood. It's just about and I
think it could also play into two men as well.
I mean men also. I think in this day and
age feel that short of way. But but this is
just a fantastic movie, so well crafted. And then the
final act, and we're not gonna get into spoilers, but
this movie goes bad shit crazy. It pulls no punches

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at the end of this movie. And if you're a
fan of practical effects and gore and and and and
great storytelling, I couldn't recommend this movie anymore.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
It really reminded me of The Fly. Yes, yeah, I
feel like that should have been it must have been
an expert in inspiration for how they met, Like did
at least the final scene. I thought that was kind
of like, yes, really resemble The Fly. Yeah. I was
gonna mention also the fact that that scene that Antonia
mentioned right where she stops herself midway from going out

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the door, Yes, that is actually that has happened to me,
And I can assure you that has happened to a
lot of women who are insecure with their looks or
they're just insecure about themselves.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
I'll tell you this as a man, that that has
happened to me. I'm not even jogging. It's legitimately happened
to me. Where people don't like the way they look
I have like a form of body dysmorphia where I
don't like certain aspects of the way I look. So,
I mean, I thought this this movie, I wish more
people saw it. It was in and out of theaters.
It's already out of theaters, and I think it needed

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to be seen in theaters because visually and the sound,
they're so good with this film.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
It's definitely not a stream and you you have to
kintch just in theaters. But if you haven't, that's okay too,
because just whatever you gotta do, just watch this movie.
It's it's it's nothing you've seen before. Honestly, even if
you've seen body horror movies, it's it's nothing like that.
It's it's a whole different story then in my opinion,
like justin you mentioned earlier exactly what it is about,
and it's so on the nose, making fun of Hollywood.
But most of the times when when movies go on

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the nose, it just doesn't work right. You know, there's
only a few examples you've seen it work well, like Scream.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Yeah, this didn't feel like it was forced, it was
pushing an agenda, but clearly it had an agenda, and
I think it did it in a brilliant way, but
that jokes you're gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
We are.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
We are out of time on this edition of Film Reel.
I would love to have you guys back to discuss
some more Halloween and horror movies.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
We would love to be back. I keep showing you
all these horror movies. It's like my favorite genre that
was already my favorite.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Well, we'll get into some more stuff because we barely
scratched the surface on this So for Antonio Ivanna, my
name is Justin Greenberg. Thank you all for listening to
the Film Reel. Up and the and the construction guys up.
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