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January 18, 2025 • 87 mins
Justin and his friend Jonathan discuss what three movies they would want to watch in theaters for the first time. They also take a trip back in time to visiting Blockbuster Video.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, everybody, My name is Justin Greenber, joining me
again my buddy Jonathan for another edition of Film Reel
right here on the Recess Bell networking. Last time we
talked a bunch of nonsense about signs and Independence Day.
Today we got a few topics that I want to cover,
but before we get to those, I want to talk
to Jonathan about something that's very important to me when

(00:22):
it comes to watching movies, and that is what you
eat while watching a movie. Now, we both go to
the theaters, so I'm going to assume you get food
at the theater. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Sometimes not a lot, but I mean, you can never
go wrong with popcorn, right.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Fresh movie theater popcorn. It's fantastic butter drizzled all over.
Oh you get the butter. I don't do the butter.
What I'm a healthy guy.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
You don't do the butter?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
No, I don't.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Why do you even get the popcorn then?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Because it's if it's mid right, you don't need butter.
It's sort of like, okay, bacon, egg and cheese. You
get bacon, egg and cheese, right or your sausage guy?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Either one?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Do you get salt pepper ketchup? On it, I do
not exactly. You don't need it. If it's made correctly,
you don't need that extra stuff. And I think the
same thing applies with popcorns. The popcorn is made fresh
and hot, and it's got the right amount of salt
on it. The butter's not needed.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
You got to have the salt. Then, Yeah, if you're
not going to do the butter, do.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
You do any other candies.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Or yeah, so I'm a big candy guy. Actually Skittles
sour Patch kids, you.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Order Skittles at the movie theater or you sneak the
stuff in.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I mean I used to bring stuff in all the time.
I really can't. I can't tell you the last time
I actually had candy at the movie theater because I.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Worked at a theater for quite a time. I just
want to say this before you continue. It's not illegal
to bring food in.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I think you told me that.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
We're told we cannot legally stop somebody. We can, you know,
advise them not to Now, if they're bringing in a
whole pizza pie, we would have to stop them. But
if somebody just walked in and is holding M and
m's and walks in, we can't legally stop them from
bringing that in. But go ahead.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
You worked at the one in Rockville Center, yes, yes,
But in the one in Limbrook you can bring whatever
you want in, right. I've seen people bringing coldstone and
they're just sitting there eat ice cream, which I mean
they serve everything there. You can get booze. Now you
can get food. They have meals.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, that is an interesting change in the movie Landscape
is the introduction of full course meals, because I don't
ever remember that as a kid, it was just popcorn
and candy. But now you could get pizza and chicken
and and like you mentioned alcohol, which I haven't really done,
and I don't know if I'm a fan of it,

(02:43):
because people are already annoying at movie theaters, and then
if you add alcohol, I mean, we're in a bowling
league together. We see the effects of alcohol every single
week pretty much.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
So when I'm trying to watch a movie, the last
thing I want is a rowdy, ruckous crowd the on
the movie. If it's a horror movie shorre, you know,
maybe be a little loud, but if it's you know,
a quieter film, you don't want the loud, obnoxious sort
of people so I've never done the movie theater booze
have you.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
No, Jackie, you'll have like a glass of wine like
she usually brings her own wine. Yeah, but yeah. I
also don't understand people that talk through movies.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
I don't understand it either. And it's not just kids.
That's the That's the one thing that really throws me
for a loop because you would think that somebody in
their fifties and sixties would understand to know your role
and shut your mouth. And the biggest offender that I
see is the elderly seventy year old eight year old.

(03:43):
Women are the absolute worst when it comes to serving
at a movie theater. When I work there, non stop
complaining it's too loud, it's too low, it's too cold,
it's too hot, the air is too dry. It's like,
I can't help you. I don't have a humidifier, gladys,
I can't help you right here. But they constantly talk.

(04:05):
And the biggest pet peeve I have with talking is
if you're going to do it, at least do it
at a whisper. And the other thing is they'll ask
questions when clearly the person they're seeing the movie with
has also not seen the movie, so they'll be like,
is he part of the government. It's like, I don't listen.
He doesn't know either, because we just were introduced to

(04:27):
this character. So just let it breathe and eventually we'll
get there.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
And the problem is they can't whisper because they can't hear,
so they might think they're whispering, but they're yelling.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
They're just screaming.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
We were at a movie last year and Jackie actually
told these kids they were teenagers. There was I knew
there was a problem because there was like two people,
two girls, sitting in the same seat, like on top
of each other. Yeah, and they did not stop talking
and me, I'll just kind of grin and Barrett, but
Jackie was like, will you be quiet? You have talked
the entire time and the girls were like, oh my god,

(04:59):
and like they didn't say another word. It was Yeah,
it was bad. And then we just saw Baby Girl
last on Wednesday, and these two people came in late
and then they started talking and like you said, too,
it's not even a movie that you need to ask
any questions about, Like it wasn't anything that you didn't
know what was going on or like yeah, so They're

(05:20):
just talking and I'm like, oh, here we go again,
and then luckily they stop. But yeah, it's just like
you said. I don't like I might say one or
two things to Jackie during a movie about somebody in
the movie, or if I like think something's gonna happen,
I'll be like this that guy's in it or whatever.
But I say very low and that's it. We don't
have full on conversations. I mean, it's just very rude

(05:42):
and very disrespectful. Like I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I've got into several fights. I was threatened to get
stabbed Jesus while while on a date we were watching
the screen movie I. I really don't take crap not
I am not a tough guy. I'm not physical intimidating
at all. But when I'm in a public setting and
I feel like I'm not going to actually get attacked,

(06:06):
I will stand up for my rights. I got into
a fight at McDonald's a few weeks ago because some
kids threw a piece of paper at me and I
called them out on it. And there was like fifteen
high school kids and I was just staring them down
because I'm like, what are they going to do? They
are going to attack me, and they just back down.
They did nothing. They had the manager come over to
them and kick them all out, and they said nothing.
I was expecting them to be like, you'll meet me outside,

(06:29):
But I guess kids these days are bitches and they
don't want to actually attack. They just they're all bark,
no bite. But yeah, it's a big issue is the talking.
And I've also noticed cell phone usage, and it's not
talking on the cell phone, it's the texting on the
cell phone. And I'm big into visuals when it comes
to movies. I love the way certain movies look. And

(06:50):
if you have a beaming light right in front of me,
it is seriously distracting. If you have to look at
your phone. At the very least, put the brightness all
the way to the minimum and cover it with your hand,
or put it, you know, your shirt over it, do something.
Don't hold it up. Yeah, you know, like you're he

(07:11):
man holding up his sword saying I have the power.
So everyone in the theater has to see your stupid text.
And it's not even text. Half the time they'll be
on socialde I.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Was just about to say, these kids doing snapchats, like
taking pictures of themselves while you're in a movie like
Who Cares.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
But it's also I don't even want to say it's kids,
because it's also not kids. It is kids. Yeah, but
I've also seen older people. I go to a lot
of showtimes that there's special needs groups that are there,
and the handlers are the ones that are causing the scenes.
They're the ones that are on their phones. They're the
ones that aren't shutting up. And yeah, that's a huge

(07:46):
pet peeve of mine. There are theaters in the city.
There's a place called Nighthawk Cinema which is over in Brooklyn,
and I believe they have one in Queen's that is
very strict when it comes to cell phone usage. You
will be kicked out of the theater if you even
look at the cell phone. You know, they're more of
a hipster sort of movie theater, but I'm all for that.

(08:07):
There should be laws when it comes to the movie theater.
And another thing is with the food. And I have
talked about this on the film Reel before, but when
it comes to food, I feel like you need to
chew your food at a sensible volume and figure out
the right time to choose.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Said food or open the package, or open the package,
do it before the movie starts, or when there's a
loud action sequence happening.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Now, when there's a dramatic scene where Billy is dying
of AIDS and there's no sound except tears happening, and
then you just hear.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, and the a Twizzler's bag. Yeah, real, Yeah, it's
just I just don't get people like you've been going
to the movies probably your whole life. Yeah, you know,
the etiquette. I mean it's not anything complicated. You're there
for two hours. Just turn your phone off.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Certain people, you know, they can't help it. If it's
a four year old kid and you're going to a
kid's movie, you just say it is what it's. You know,
I shouldn't be here. I'm thirty six years old with
a mustache. I probably should not be watching Despicable of
Me by myself on a random Saturday. So this is
on me. They can't help it.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, but there.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, but when it's like you said, a fifty year old,
sixty year old, eighteen year old, you gotta do better.
And yeah, it's the social media thing. It's the I'm
at the movie, look at me, and I've done that before.
Before a movie, I'll take a picture of me outside
of the with the poster and I'll post a review
about it on my Instagram. But to actually film scenes

(09:38):
in a movie for what Yeah, what is it for
for you to go back and watch your camera of
the movie to get a few likes on Instagram. I
have a huge issue with social media.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, I'm not big on social media.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
I'm addicted to it.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
I don't post a lot, I'll I look at it
a lot, but again, who wants who cares that you're
in a movie theater.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
It's a big time addiction, and it also is a
big thing happening recently is a lot of people not
wanting to see longer movies, and I think that has
to do with short attention spans. People are used to
five second videos on TikTok, a minute videos on Instagram,
So when they see a showtime that's three hours in
three and a half hours, which is it can be

(10:20):
a lot, but there's some of the best movies of
all time are three hours, three and a half hours.
You know Your Godfathers, all those Scorsese movies are two
and a half three hour movies. Tarantino movies usually three hours,
so if the movie's good, it shouldn't be an issue
with the runtime. I know Wicked was one of those
movies recently that a lot of people were saying, yeah,
but it's two hours and forty five minutes. It didn't

(10:40):
feel like it. It really went quickly.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
That's the thing. I have no problem watching a movie
that's two and a half three hours long, but it
can't feel that way. And recently we've watched movies that
are an hour and fifty or two hours that have
felt like three hours, and you're just like, that's bad.
They could have caught out a lot of it. And
like you said, it's hard to it's hard to keep
your attention, like especially if you're not into it. Then

(11:05):
you just kind of like it's almost like when you know,
watching the clock trying to see it go and it
just takes forever.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
I will say I do enjoy a nice hour and
forty five minute movie, particularly with certain genres. No comedy
should be two hours long. No comedies need to be
ninety ninety five minutes. Action movies hour fifty minutes. Your
dramas they could be two and a half hours. Epic
action movie, something that is a conclusion to a series.

(11:30):
You know, the last Avengers movie two hours forty five minutes.
Have no issues with that. Yeah, a giant epic, you know,
war film be three hours for all.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Like Gladiator or brief Heart.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, those are fine being long exactly. But I think
the trend of certain genres being way too long is
something that I feel like we're going to get away
from because audiences aren't going to the movies, and I
think it's a it's it's a shame. And I think
a lot of younger audiences look at showtimes specifically and
we'll see the length of of a movie and we'll

(12:01):
purposely not go see that movie, which is something that
maybe maybe we did talk about it last time. I
don't know what they could do as far as the
changing that have intermissions, something to uh get people to
want to get back to the theater. So we talked
about some of the snacks I know we went over on.
We went completely all over the place. I don't know

(12:21):
how we got to where we got to. I'm a
big popcorn guy. I have the regal unlimited movie pass,
as do you, right, So we accumulate a lot of
points and get temper of concession. But also I have,
you know, a certain amount of points, and I can
redeem that for free small popcorns. So what I do,
and my last name is Greenberg for a reason, I

(12:42):
get the free small popcorn, and then I'll ask for
a courtesy cup of ice, and then I'll get which
is like a small cup of ice, and then I'll
just go to the water fountain and fill it up
with water because it's a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Well, I was just gonna say that to you. That's
also part of the reason that people don't go to
the movies anymore, because you got to take out a
long if you're bringing like your significant other and like
if you have kids or whatever.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
My god, my brother spent My brother spent one hundred
and fifty bucks going to them.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yes, and then the kids, obviously you're gonna want popcorn, candy, soda.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
I went to a movie a few weeks ago, and
I noticed I took a picture actually of there because
there's a computer screen with all the you know, prices
of what they're picking up. It was a kid, and
I want to say, his grandma sixty eight dollars just
on snacks. Wow, they got the this was a big thing.

(13:35):
What's happening now is these popcorn buckets. So there's like
themed after certain movies. Which popcorn bucket they got, but
that's like a big thing. You know. They had the
Dune one last year, there was an Alien.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
And the Wicked one.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, there's there's a ton of them. So they got
one of those, which is already twenty eight dollars in itself.
Then they got you know, the they each got a
large soda, which is ten dollars.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
There is super unnecessary because the small, the small is
a bucket.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, I don't like getting this the large. When it's
your birthday, you get a free large soda and a
free large popcorn. I said, just give me a small.
I cannot have a I can physically not have a
large soda. So I mean I watched this person and
his grandma sixty eight dollars. That's just for the food. Now,

(14:24):
that's not including the two tickets. If they saw an
Imax movie, that's fifty dollars for two tickets. You're talking
one hundred and fifteen dollars or so for one trip
to the movies. That's a vacation.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, I mean, and the movies have not been good.
I mean, we've seen a lot more than we would
have seen because we have that unlimited pass, so we're
obviously gonna use it. We don't want to waste it.
But if you go twice a month, you make money
on it or you save money, it.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Pays for itself.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
But we've seen a lot of bad movies because of it.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
I've seen a lot of bad movies as well. And
I am going to get to my worst movies of
twenty twenty four. I released my Best Movies of twenty
twenty four, you know last week it just got released.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
How many did you see?

Speaker 1 (15:07):
I saw one hundred and one movies we saw.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
I saw thirty one and Jackie saw thirty five.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Oh, did you see anything that she didn't see?

Speaker 2 (15:16):
No, he saw four that I didn't see because she
went on like the Monday Mystery one. I've never done that,
and she saw three other movies that I didn't want
to see. So she went on a Monday while I
was bowling or Tuesday while I was working.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Does she go by herself?

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I I Out of the one hundred and one movies
I saw, I'd say ninety five of them were by myself,
because again, who am I going to talk to I'm
watching a movie.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Exactly. You don't need somebody there because, like you said,
normal people don't talk to him during the movie. I mean,
you could talk after about how bad it was or
how good it was.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
But sometimes I'll just talk to myself. I think I've
told you about my TikTok character, the sheriff. Yes, so
he just sort of talks to himself at the movie.
I actually, here's a funny fact. At that theater, the
Westbury Theater, I have been the sheriff for the last
three years, so they do not know my real voice.
They have no idea who I am. I talk I guests,

(16:12):
and I have movies, and I can't change character because
it's too late.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
So they think you're one of the special needs kids.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yes, and I have gone on dates there, and I'll
have to just buy my ticket, buy myself at the
kiosk with her, and I just say go get a
seat and I'll get the popcorn.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
You know, because you can't talk normal. I can't talk normal,
And then if you talk like that in front of
your date, you'll be alone.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, exactly. So it's it's it's like a Catch twenty
two right there. But quickly other snacks though, and we
will get to some more movies. I feel like I
need to get soda. If I'm getting popcorn, I'm not
getting water, So you need to have soda. Yeah, And
I like pretzels and nachos, I don't. I rarely get that, like.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
The soft pretzels. Yep, I'll do that.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
But here's the thing, and I have talked about it,
so I hate to regurgitate stories that I've talked about
on the radio. Or rather I was gonna say the
Radio Rumble, which is my radio show Saturday twelve to two,
that I have talked about in the film reel before.
But the issue I have with the snacks that you
dip in the cheese is you don't know how much
cheese you have left, so you have to like ration it.
But then at the end you might be like, I

(17:21):
have half a thing of cheese left and only three
nacho chips off I've completely butchered it. Or it could
be vice versa. You have no cheese left and you
have like seven pretzels to dip nothing.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
In, So do you go get more cheese or more
pretzels or nachos. If that has O, I'll either don't
tell me, you just like put your finger in the
cheese and eat it.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
I might do a little bit of that. I might
do a little bit of that. But I had an
idea they need to have glow in the dark cheese.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
That does not sound good. But I'm gonna say that's
probably not gonna be appetizing.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
It's probably going to cause some sort of stomach hand.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
They could just put some sort of like glow in
the dark on the container.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Something something for us, but not distract, but not just
They need to figure it out. There needs to be
some sort of.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
I mean, is it that dark? You really can't tell
how much sees you have.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
You can't because it blends in. It's the same color
as like the packing material. So I guess the old
pinky and the cheese trick is the rat that I'm
going But pretzels and nachos.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Are you raising sky?

Speaker 1 (18:23):
I am Jackie. That's her favorite and I never was
as a kid.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
However, I've never seen her eat them, but she says
that's her favorite. Yeah. The fact that you said skittles, well,
I'm just I'm a hard candy guy, like I like
that this sour patch kids.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Ye what else are fantastic? You do the watermelon of
those standard kids.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
It doesn't matter whatever they got.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
I hate the fact that you have to time everything
out properly, in my opinion, which is why I miss
a lot of the previews when I go to the theaters.
If I'm getting a snack, because I don't want to
be sitting there watching previews, let alone commercials, because there's
fifteen minutes of commercials nowadays. Yeah, before I get my food,

(19:05):
because I don't want to have no food while watching
the movie. So I time it out. I'll say, give
me my popcorn after like the fourth preview, and then
I'll go and get it, and then time it out
perfectly to you know, sit in my seat right when
the movie's about to start, because if you're getting popcorn
before the movie, you might finish it before the previous.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
That's what I did last time.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, the last time I got it, I went and
I'm eating it and then the movie's about to start
and I looked down. I was like, well, I'm done
with my popcorn. So there goes that.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
I like the popcorn is great because it's long lasting,
like I could eat those pretzels in four minutes. Oh y,
popcorn takes a while.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, because you know you can only grab so many.
They're falling on you. You gotta find them, and yeah,
eat those. And the the previews are out of control.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's insane.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
It's twenty it's minimum twenty minutes, and a lot of
them are thirty.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, it's usually, Yeah, it's usually twenty five. But that's
not including the commercials.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, so we usually you don't show up until five
ten minutes after the showtime, and then we still see
four or five previews.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
I have a big issue with previews. It's it's they
show too much. It's it's horrible. Whoever edits These previews
should immediately be fired. But they should also say what
the actual showtime is. They should have two times on
these apps. It should say preview time and actual showtime.
I like that idea because people should be showing up

(20:29):
if they want to skip out on that crap and
not watch forty five minutes of ads. Yeah, there should
be an option.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
And somehow people still show up late for movies. Yep,
I don't get it. Like they came in on Wednesday.
This couple came in about probably five six minutes after
it started. It was a six point twenty quote unquote
showtime that started at six point fifty and they showed
up at six fifty five.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
What's the point. It's like, Wow, if you knew you
were gonna be that late, just go wait for another showtime. Right,
Let's get to some other some other chatting, Jonathan. Let's
get into this thing real quick. And this is your opinion,
and you are in the minority when it comes to
people on the film real there's a movie called The
Substance that came out last year, which is one of

(21:15):
the front runners for several Oscars. Demi Moore just won
the Golden Globe for Best Actress for her performance in
the movie. You're the only person you and your girlfriend
are the only two people I've talked to that not
only didn't like the movie, you hated the movie.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Not the entire movie. So that's not the entire movie.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
So that's my issue with you, because you were like,
this is the worst movie ever.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
No. So the first movie, the first hour and twenty
to hour and thirty minutes was fine. Okay, the premise
was good. I understand what you're saying about the story
of actresses in Hollywood. They have to stay young, they
have to stay relevant, all that stuff. I get it.
I get the premise of the story.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
It's simple.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
The last forty minutes flew off the handle. It turned
into a blob monster with body parts coming out of
it everywhere. Faces on the side, she's putting ear rings
in an eyeball and then just puts it and has
a dress on, and then just walks into a crowded
theater to host the New Year's Eve thing, and everybody's

(22:22):
looking at her as she has a picture taped stapled
to her head to make her look like Demi Moore,
and then just blood spewing everywhere for a half hour.
It just it went way off the.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
You're making me love the movie even more. It's perfect.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
It went perfectly, way off the deep end. I mean
it was. Yes, I get that it was kind of
a sci fi type movie because obviously, I mean, the
person comes out of your back and then luckily they're
a trauma surgeon, so then I had to show you
up properly. I mean, I think they could have did
something different there.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
I think you're overthinking aspects of the movie.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
But no, but I didn't know it. It just turned
into an absolute disaster. So yeah, I love it. The
story I get again about staying relevant and staying young. Also,
the one big plot hole is that they can never
be alive at the same time than they were. Then
they fought each other.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
I would need to rewatch it to see exactly how
that went down, because you know, I watched it four
months ago or so. But I I loved this movie,
Jonathan from from the Sound, because because you're mentioning things
that you liked about it, you know, the acting was great.
Did you not think Demi Moore was fantastic in this movie?

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Demi Moore was very good. And I'm a big Dennis
Quaid fan, and I understand that that was the part
he had to play, but I didn't like it.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Well, he did his job then.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Exactly like when he was eating the shrimp was the
most disgusting and oh it's so disgusting. Yeah, he did
it great, but I don't like him in that role,
I guess, but but yes, he did he did it great. Also,
like the what's your.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Name Margaret quality Quali qually.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Something like that. Okay, So I also didn't like how
they were just the like the exercise teacher, Like that's
what they were like. They weren't even really like an.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Actress, they were just like I love it.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
I can't know no.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Visually, it was beautiful. I think it was the best
looking movie of the year. The sound was fantastic. Now,
you guys watched this at home, so you missed out
on the theater quality sound. But the score, like the
music was, was top notch. The sound design fantastic. Visually,
the setting, the sets, everything about it was great. The

(24:44):
prosthetic makeup. I'm a big horror movie fan, so I
loved the movie like The Fly and the Thing, and
if you're fans of those movies, you would definitely like
this movie. One of the big issues I have with
you two is you're bashing me for liking this movie
as if I made you watch it. I never said

(25:05):
for you guys to watch it.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
We didn't bash you.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
We just we just tagged team in me.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
We just said that we didn't like. Actually, I think
Lisa was the one that told us to watch it.
We knew that you had watched it.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Michel, friend of ours, said watch the movie, and then
I said to her, I watched the movie. She's like, Oh,
it's fantastic, and then weeks go by you say to
her you don't like the movie, and then she's like,
I hated the movie completely backtrack.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah, she just wants to whoever's talking wants to make
them happy. So if you liked it, she liked it,
you didn't like it, she didn't like it. But no,
we never said that you made us watch it. We
knew that you liked it. And again, the first hour
and twenty hour and thirty I was in. I was in,
and then I wasn't, and then for me it completely
lost everything that it was doing.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Well, these are not the movies that you're into, which
is why if you actually asked me, you know, which
movie to watch on my top five list, that would
probably be the last one i'd recommend. Just especially your
girlfriend Jackie, based on the movies that she likes. This
is not a Jackie movie.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Well, she actually is the one who wanted to watch it.
I mean, don't get me wrong. When we saw it
come out, we said we're gonna watch this. Yeah, and
then that night I was like, Hey, which which movie
you want to watch? And she's like, let's watch The Substance.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
And I watched My Penguin Friend well that one.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, we probably should.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Have been nice and cute and a nice little penguin guy. Yeah, no,
weird sex, you know, destruction, zombie things happening. So I mean,
I liked it. It seems like you you liked aspects
of it, which is why when you say it's the
worst movie ever, it's clearly not. There's so many worst
movies out there. There are movies that are shot ugly,

(26:42):
there's movies that have terrible sound mixing. There's movies that
have terrible acting. This had none of them, There's no.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
And there's movies that are just bad from beginning to end.
Like I said, the first hour and twenty hour and
thirty was fine, it was good. I'll even say it
was good. But the last forty minutes completely completely for me,
terming completely off. But I also, I guess I don't
watch movies like you with sound mixing and sets and scores.
My big thing, whether I like a movie or not

(27:09):
is do I like the actual movie, not now it's
made and stuff like that, which I don't even know
if I would know how to watch it for that purpose.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, I mean, I'm with you. The main thing that
I take away from movie is did I like the
movie with a plot? Good? But there are other things
that I look at, like visual. It's just super important
to me these days. Watching the movie Nosferatu was such
a treat because it was such a visually appealing movie.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
I remember you talking about that. Was it good?

Speaker 1 (27:36):
I liked it. I liked it. I would not recommend
it again.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Not a Jackie movie.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Not a Jackie movie. I don't think it's a Jonathan
movie either, potentially, But it's weird. There's like sexual things
going on, there's body horror, and it's a lot of
elements that are similar to the substance in that aspect.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
But that movie is about a vampire. Correct. Yeah, okay,
so that's expected in a vampire movie. If you have
some looking creature, that's fine. It's a vampire movie. It's
obviously fake. I mean, but you.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Didn't see like the trailers for the substance or see
that people are saying this is like the best body
horror movie going into this, that this was going to
be a fucked up, you know, body horror experience.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yes, but only because you see in the the post
her back right. So I knew it was something weird
like that, And like you said, the makeup and everything
with Demi Moore was fantastic as they aged her. When
the other girl stayed out too long and it was
killing her and her body, that was fine. I understood
that part. Again, it was the creature thing at the

(28:38):
end that completely I can understand that.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
I'm not going to sit here and say that's not
for everybody. It's it's an eclectic sort of taste. So
we'll see what it does when the Academy Awards come.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Up, which I don't get that. I don't get that either.
What were there that many bad movies last year that
that's the front runner.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
For Best Actress? Oh, just for I don't think it's
Best a Picture. I don't think it's gonna win. As
of now, as of this recording, we don't even know
if it's nominated for it. But this has been a
week year for these Oscar type of movies. And the
one movie that I know you want to see, at least, Jackie,
I know I've talked about it is The Brutalist with

(29:19):
Adrian Brody, which is playing nowhere locally. Really, it's playing
only in like in Manhattan, and Brooklyn, and I'm hoping
that changes because it just won a bunch of awards
at the Golden Globe. So usually when these movies start
to win awards, they'll start to put them out in
the theaters. So I'm hoping. I mean, if this movie
wins the Oscar for Best Picture, can at least be

(29:40):
released on Long Island.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
And like you said, that's three and a half hours
is a lot. And I heard they give you an intermission.
That's what I already said from you.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
I don't know who told me. I think Jackie told me,
but I thought you told her. But no, I guess
not no, So I don't.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Know who knows. But that is something that I wouldn't mind,
like we said, happening in future movies. Let's get to
one other thing before we get to our main event,
which is we're going to be talking about three movies
that we wish we could see in theaters for the
first time ever. We're getting in a hypothetical time machine.

(30:15):
You can even change your age if you want to say, like, oh,
I'm five year old Jonathan and I'm watching this movie
for the first time. You could do that. You could
go back in time, so you could be in the thirties,
you could be in the forties, fifties. You're putting yourself
in that setting watching the movie with an audience for
the first time. What would be those movies? But before
we get to that, I want to talk briefly about

(30:35):
renting movies at Blockbuster, because I just had a caller
call up the radio show I'm on Radio Rumbles Saturday
twelve to two. I was talking to this guy, Charlie
about Blockbuster Video and how much fun we had going
to it when we were younger, and I have such
fond memories of going there renting not just movies but
video games. I even rented video game consoles because you

(30:58):
could get the suitcase with the PlayStation one in it,
and I remember taking that home and playing some helicopter
game and just being blown away at the graphical improvement
from the Super Nintendo to you know, the three D
centric world of the PlayStation One. But renting movies, VHS, tapes, DVDs,
just roaming around the aisles and looking at the cover art.

(31:19):
It was such a fun time to go there, and
I miss it dearly because it's just such a part
of my childhood.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I couldn't agree with you more Blockbuster on a Friday night,
picking out your movies for the weekend, grabbing your candy,
you know that was I used to go to the
one I'm talking When I'm in my early twenties, I
moved down the Long Island and I used to go
to the one in Ocean Side.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Okay, there's two in Ocean Side. There was one by
the ihop that's the one.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yes, yeah, by Atlantic.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yep, yep, yep, exactly what are you're talking? On the
way towards Nathan's. Yeah, Nathan's was another place that's no
longer there. They have another Nathan's. They moved to a
smaller area. Okay, but the old, the giant Nathan's with
the right on the corner, Yeah, we'd go there. There
was a KB Toys that's no longer there. Correct, that
became a toys to us. But we used to do
the route we go. You know, you go far down

(32:11):
to KB, get your toy, go back to Nathan's, eat
your French fries, play the arcade game, then go home,
maybe rent the movie from Blockbuster. I went to the
one in Baldwin. Okay, well, if there was no tape
at the bald one.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
We'd go to the Oh yeah. You always had a
call and check where they were if you really wanted
to see it, and.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Then calling up saying do you have this FIFA game?
They're like, yeah, we have it. I drove down there.
Yeah we don't have it. I would think, what do
you You don't have it? You said you had it,
we drove here.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
I would call up and be like, hey, do you
have this movie? And they're like no, we're all out.
I'm like, check the returns, check the returns. Yeah, and
they'd be like, oh, yeah, there's one in there. I'm like,
I'll be there in ten minutes older for me, Like yeah, no.
We used to do that all the time. I mean,
if it was a popular movie, they would have a
whole wall of it, just a one movie and it
would still sell out. Yeah, and it's like all right,
well when did they returning it or you know? I

(32:56):
but yeah, I used to be a big blockbuster guy.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
You ever do Hollywood video?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I don't think so. I think I was just a
straight blockbuster. And then after Blockbuster it was red Box.
I never did really I used to because I used
to go to the seven to eleven. Yeah, get my cigarettes,
my call fee, whatever. And then red Box, red Box.
I can't tell you that was like the new Blockbuster
for me for a while. And now, I mean if
you see a red Box anywhere, you're like, wow, that

(33:22):
that's ancient.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, yeah, outdated.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
I love about Blockbuster the fact that you would let
movies breathe. And what I mean by that is if
you rented a movie at Blockbuster, you were stuck with
that movie. So with Netflix, you have five hundred movies
on Netflix, you have five hundred movies on Peacock, Amazon, Hulu,
all these things. There's two thousand movies at your disposal
at any given time, So if you don't like something

(33:49):
after five minutes, you could turn it off. Ye. And
a lot of these movies took time to breathe, and
and you gave it an opportunity when you would rent
to that Blockbuster because it was your only option. And
I love that idea that you know, I remember renting
Frankenstein from back in the day, you know, the nineteen thirties, Frankistan.
I couldn't imagine watching that today because it'd be like,

(34:11):
this is boring us help. But then I ended up
loving it, and I love that ability of renting a
movie with the family. We would have family movie nights,
the whole family. My dad was huge in the Blockbuster.
We had the gold membership for Blockbuster, and just so
many fun memories renting wrestling tapes, you know, because I
got into wrestling in nineteen ninety five. But I would

(34:32):
see all these tapes of guys and be like, Sean Michaels, Oh,
he used to wrestle back in the day, Like he
had a mullet. This is insane. And then he'd be like, oh,
he was a bad guy because he was a good
guy when I started watching, But then I find the
tape like, oh, he's fighting mister Perfect, but mister Perfect
is a good guy, and show Michaels is a bad guy.
This is insane. So I'd rent all these old Royal
rumboldts and WrestleManias and just looking at the cover art

(34:55):
and being fascinated by the way it looked, and uh,
you know the beauty of not having the Internet is
you didn't know who won the Royal Rumble that year.
So she'd be like, I don't know, maybe British Bulldog
wins it. This year. But nowadays you can look up
anything instantaneous.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Anything you want at your fingertips.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
It's a big problem I think with society. It takes
away from conversations because and there's no debate. You could say,
you know who had a better season in two thousand
and two, Barry Bonds or you know whomever, and then
you just go, well, I have the stature, seventy three
guys all this stuff. But back in the day, you
could even have an argument, like Douf Lungern was in

(35:33):
that movie. He'd be like, no, he wasn't like he
was in that movie, and it would be like a
four hour conversation, like I remember he said this line.
Now you just go look at his IMDb and look
up all dof Lunger in movies. So that's one of
the issues. I like technology. I love the advancement of technology.
I like AI believe it or not. I like the
fact that I can listen to music. I could listen
to this podcast. Wherever we want to listen to podcasts,

(35:55):
I could get directions. I would be lost if they
said get to hear to Hartford, Connecticut. Back in the day,
do you remember the map?

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Do you remember you either had to use a map
or then you printed off the step by step directions.
Some map quests four pages.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
My parents trying to get the Pennsylvania caused nineteen arguments
and probably could have ended the marriage if my father
lived longer. But that's all gone now with the beauty
of technology. So there are good things for it. But
those simpler times, we're going to Blockbuster on a cold
night and you're stuck inside and it's raining, and you
rented two video games and two movies, and you got

(36:29):
the whole weekend or a slumber party.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
I was just gonna say slumber party. I was just
gonna say, you get you know, a bunch of friends, Like, yeah,
I'm gonna go get these movies. Yeah, I got the candy,
you get the soda, you get the pizza, and just
hang out for you know, not leave your house for
two days, yep, and just have a blast.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
You'd watch a movie. I used to watch a movie,
the same movie five times over a weekend. Really, if
I rented like a movie, I like, if I read
Mortal Kombats out on VHS, I'm gonna rent Mortal Kombat.
Then you'd watch it. And then you just watch them again,
you'd watch it four or five times before their return.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
The Netflix, so yeah, get your money's worth, right.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
And then, speaking of food, there's a McDonald's right next
to our Blockbuster. So what I would do is my
mom would drive in the drive through. I tell her, okay,
I want to Hamburger happy Meal and then you know, mcflurry,
and then I'd run out of the car, run into Blockbuster,
get my thing, and then you know, try and time it,

(37:24):
time it out, run out, and then she'd be getting
the food and I'd get right into the front of
the car and just you know, like a quick drive by,
get home, and then watch the movie. But a lot
of these movies you wouldn't even know if it was
gonna be good or not. You'd have to just base
it off of the cover art and read the synopsis
on the back. And it made for some fun times.
Watching bad movies was also really fun back in the day.

(37:46):
You'd rent something crappy and you just laugh along with it.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
It was more fun than now going to the theater
and watching bad movies and sitting there.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
But yeah, yeah, well those are the good old days.
I miss it, and these kids.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Will never know it. No they'll never know it, you said.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
I collect VHS tapes. I'm a big fan of just
nostalgia in general, but just that artwork, and yeah, the
kids will never know. And you know, forty years from now,
the kids that our kids now are gonna be like, well,
you don't know about you don't know about TikTok, you
don't know about the Rizzler and all these things that
that Every generation says that, because I'm sure older generations

(38:25):
would say, oh, you don't remember paying ten cents and
watching a Looney Tune short before a movie. So generations
just hated the next generation.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah, what else had to.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Walk six miles back and forth up hill in the
snow every single day to school.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah, everybody's heard that one.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Let's get to the main event, Jonathan. Let's get to
the movies we would want to see in theaters for
the first time ever. So in our hypothetical time machine,
we're traveling back in time to watch three movies for
the very first time. I'm with an audience. I'm gonna
start off with some honorable mentions. I don't know if

(39:04):
you have any honorable mentions, but I'm gonna throw out
a few of them. Okay, number one Ghostbusters from nineteen
eighty four. The world loved this movie. I've talked to
my old therapist about how big this movie was and
how New York City essentially embraced the Ghostbusters as you know,

(39:25):
mascots of the city. And he lived in the city
at the time, and he would say he would go
walking down the street, he'd see people selling bootleg Ghostbusters
shirts and it was a phenomenon. And I love those actors,
and I love the mixing of genres. You have comedy,
you have science fiction. You have all this cool technology,
the ghost trap, the the proton packt the vehicles. I'm

(39:46):
a big fan of movie vehicles, and the ECDO one,
the vehicle that they drive in is fantastic. But then
you have just a great chemistry of the cast of
Dan Akroyd, Bill Murray, Rick moranis, Ernie Hudson, Sigourney Weaver,
and so forth. And a great poster. That's another thing
that I haven't really talked too much about on film reel,
a very simplistic poster of just the symbol, the no

(40:07):
Ghost symbol. You walk around the movie theater next time,
Jonathan and look out. Ugly posters are. They're all just
just completely too much. They're too busy. And the simplicity
of a Jurassic Park poster or a Ghostbuster's poster or
a Batman nineteen eighty nine poster, where it's just a
symbol and there's intrigue and there's mystery and you don't

(40:29):
really know what you're getting into. The poster art is
definitely a lost thing. But Ghostbusters would definitely be one
of my honorable mentions. Did you have any ones that
you didn't put on your list?

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah, so, not that I would want to see. But
when I looked up, you know, I kind of googled,
you know, great movies to see in the theater, and
a lot that I saw that kept coming up were
Lawrence of Arabia, two thousand and one Space Odyssey.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
That's definitely one visually, for sure, that'd be cool on.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
The basic I know you liked this movie. Don't think
you like the second one, but both Blade Runners.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, the first Blade Runner I very much like. Back
to two thousand and one Space Out of See that
same therapist that told me about Ghostbusters, he told me
he took acid and watched two thousand and one Space
out of Sea and sat on the floor, laid down
in the front row and just watched the entire movie
on acid.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yeah, you're my therapist.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
If you're like, I think this is gonna be our last.
Sesson mad Max Furry Road.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Which I did see in theaters. Did you get Did
you see that one in theaters?

Speaker 2 (41:34):
I did not.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Did you see it yet?

Speaker 2 (41:35):
I did see it?

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yeah? I love it.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah, I mean that's definitely a good movie to see
in the theater with all the action. I watched that
far chase or well, I don't know, not car, but yeah,
their vehicles in the in the desert and all that
stuff with the sound sound was definitely.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
And I remember watching that with my ex and I
was just smiling and I looked over to her and
I was like, this is the greatest thing I've ever
seen in my life because it's like there's like a
forty five minute just action in sequence and it never
lets up, and it's a lot of practical effects. There's
very little cgi in that movie actually, you know, it's
a stunt work. It's all the classic things that you

(42:10):
would get in old Hollywood. So that's definitely one I
would love to see again.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
And then the last one was Titanic.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Did you see that in theaters? What?

Speaker 2 (42:20):
I don't know, really, I might have.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Yeah, we don't remember. Twenty years ago, nineteen ninety seven,
seven years ago, I remember, I don't know. I was fifteen, Okay,
I was younger, and I remember because I remember Kate
Winslet's breast.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Well, that's why you remember it.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
I remember my grandma covering, trying to cover my eyes.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
You're like, no, no, I'm good, I'm good. I'm good.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
It's historical. These are historical breasts.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
This is a historic you know movie here.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
I started three D a few years ago, so you
got three D breasts. It's fantastic. Oh man, that's a
lot of people don't like that movie. I love Titanic movie.
I love it. I think it's it's a masterpiece. I
got some other honorable mentions. A few of them I
actually did see in theaters, Jurassic Parks, which I've seen
a lot in theaters. I've seen several different anniversaries. I

(43:09):
saw when I was re released in three D. I
saw it when I was four and a half years old,
so I was young and I remember it, but I
don't remember all of it. I'm very young, so I
wouldn't of mind have been a little bit older. I
was like eight or nine years old, would have been cool.
Nineteen ninety three, okay, so I was eleven, And did

(43:30):
you see it in theaters?

Speaker 2 (43:31):
You had to have again? Remember, I do know that
I saw the newest one in theaters.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Terrible, the last one that just came out like two
years ago, I think, so yeah, that was I think
the worst movie I saw that year, if I remember correctly,
and then the previous one was actually the worst movie
I saw that year. I fucking hate those movies. And
I love Jurassic Park. It's my top five favorite movies.
So that's definitely what i'd want to see again. Happy
Gilmore is one i'd want to see again in theaters.
I remember seeing that with my father and my brother

(43:59):
and just laughing our ass. If we went to all
the Sandler movies when I was a kid, we saw
Gilmore water Boy Wedding Singer Big Daddy, And uh, it's
unfortunate that no, because that was right before Gilmore, so
we had to rent that one. But it's unfortunate that
A his movies kind of sucked these days, and B
he's on Netflix exclusive guy.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, he went he went down. He made a lot
of bad movies after he made a lot of good ones.
It was at Jack and Jill. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
You know, it's funny. I've talked to a few people
here that love Jack and Joel really and I'm like,
you need to go to therapy.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, watch Jack and Jill again.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
It's terrible Jack and Joel. It's actually uh, it's like
a weird scheme. Actually too. There's so much product placement
in Jack and Jill because it's done by Sony. And
I watched a whole video this this YouTube channel, Red
Letter Media, which is my favorite YouTube channel. They review
movies and they just broke down just how awful. It
seems like a weird scheme that Adam Sandler just gets

(45:00):
money for plugging you know, Sony products and Coca Cola products.
Very very interesting look back, but that, you know, that
first Sandler movie I saw in theaters is something I'll
never forget. A few other ones. I mentioned this one
earlier with the poster, and that would be Batman, which
I did get to see last year. It was celebrating
I guess it's thirty fifth anniversary and it was released

(45:23):
during Batman Day, which I guess is the thing. They
released like four or five different Batman movies in theaters,
and I've seen every single Batman movie in theaters from
its initial release except Batman nineteen eighty nine. So luckily
I did get to see it eventually, but it was
in like a dingy theater with only three or four
people in it. I would have loved to have seen
it when Batmania was sweeping the nation in nineteen eighty

(45:45):
nine and every kid had all the Batman toys and
the Batman you know, t shirts and posters. And I
remember seeing Batman Returns in a drive in theater, which
is the only time I went to go to see
a drive And I saw Batman Forever in theaters and
Batman and which was terrible, then all the Nolan movies,
and I really love the latest Batman movie that came

(46:05):
out with Robert Pattinson.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Didn't see it.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Fantastic, really fantastic. It is a work of art.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Visually, it's probably the best looking movie of the last
twenty five years. Okay, I'm gonna go on the record
and say that it is a visual masterpiece. It's not perfect.
I don't like Bruce Wayne in it. I like Robert
Pattinson's Batman a lot, and the villain the Riddler is fantastic.
But who's that Paul Dano, who's a really good actor.
He played Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys and the

(46:31):
Brian Wilson biopic. He was in There Will Be Bloody,
and he's been in a few other movies. He was
in Dumb Money, the movie about the.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Yeah with jesseurg No, no, no, no no. It was
the other kid that played clits On in Girl next Door.
He played the main guy in Dumb Money.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Dumb Money, that's the one. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's Paul Dano.
The to the Moon Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's Paul
Dano Girl next Door.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
I like him. Yeah. I think he's a good actor.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Yeah, he fantastic. He plays the Riddler, does a great job.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
I can see that.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
I would have thought Emil Hirsch, speaking of Girl next Door,
I think I would have thought he'd be a lot
more famous than he was.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Yeah, he didn't really do much.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
He's a pretty decent actor.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
So those are some of the movies I definitely would
want to see. One other one honorable mention is King
Kong from nineteen thirty three.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
I mean just to be with an audience in the thirties,
where yes, there were special effects movies before that, But
to go from you know, those those dinosaur movies from
the nineteen twenties, you know, The Lost World and movies
like that, to what nineteen thirty threes Kong did is
such a leap in technology and to see that on

(47:40):
the big screen definitely would have been a treat. So
let's get to the main event, the three movies we'd
want to see in theaters for the first time with
an audience. I'm gonna start, Jonathan, go ahead with The Exorcist.
I love The Exorcist, is my favorite horror movie of

(48:01):
all time. And I hear the stories. I hear the
stories of audience members seeing this for the first time
and losing their shit.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
I was just gonna say, they like throwing up in the.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Theater, were passing out, They were just they were they
never saw anything like this because movies in the sixties
for the most part, were so tame. Then by the
late sixties they start to get a little more violent.
You know, your Bonnie and Clydes and movies like that.
Started to come out. But when the seventies turned around,
that's when you got all these visionary film directors. You know,

(48:32):
your Coppolas, your Scorsesees. Even George Lucas at the time
was a you know, a revolutionary filmmaker. And William Friedkin
is right there with the Exorcists, and they're doing some
crazy stuff in this movie. I mean, this woman, this
young girl, she's a teenager. She's literally taking across and
stabbing her private parts with blood coming out of it.

(48:53):
I mean, imagine seeing a movie like like a Chitty
Chitty Bang Bang, like four years prior to that, and
you go from that to The Exorcist. It's like night
and day. So I would have loved to have been
there to see it when it went down and it
made so much money and it was just a juggernaut
of a film. I mean, Linda Blair got nominated for

(49:14):
Best Actress at the Academy Awards. She was the youngest
nominee ever at the time, and that's certainly one I
would love to just go and see, like an older audience,
an audience that was fifty sixty years old and remembers
watching movies when they were silent going from that to
the tame fifties and sixties era to that Exorcist.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
And I don't even I don't even think you want
to go watch the movie. You just want to watch
everybody's reaction to the audience exactly.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah, I just want if people screaming and giggling and
are you have you seen The Exorcist years ago? It's
It's one of my favorites and one that if I
watched by myself at night two am, I'm losing my mind.
I've freaked out.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
It is uh, just very ear all the lights on,
all the lights immediately on after.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
And then looney Tunes have to be on.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
So when you used to watch a movie like that,
I'm sure we all did this. When you were like
younger and then you had to like gulfstairs to your room,
you always ran up.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
The same run, run full speed and have to turn
on something like as.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
You're flicking the light off, you're you're doing it in
a run, like you're already three steps into your run
and smacking the light down and then running and jumping
on your bed like okay, I'm okay, I'm right, I'm okay.
I think every person did that, and if they say
they didn't, they're lovely liars.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
And and I still do that. Actually, that's the other thing.
The scary thing is I told you I watched these
movies in theaters by myself. If I watch a really
scary movie by myself, then I have to get in
the car, you know, looking around, like who's in there?

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Looking in the back seat, make sure it noways laying
down ready to kidnap you.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
So I got Exorcist number one or one of my three.
Let's go with one of yours now, all right.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
So you already made fun of me last time I
was on for this movie, saying it was one of
my favorite of all time, the Wizard of Oz. And
the reason that I would want to see this in
movies is I actually mentioned this to you. I personally
thought it was the first movie ever done in color.
I found out it was not. It was the first
full length movie that used technicolor. There was. The first

(51:19):
one ever in color was a nineteen oh eight, eight
minute British short. Uh it was it cold? I had
it here.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Well, whatever it was, it clearly didn't have the impact
that the Wizards.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Yeah, it was a visit to the seaside eight minute
British short film released in nineteen oh eight. Then you
had the animated snow White was the first full length
color movie with sound in nineteen thirty seven.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Which was a juggernaut and you know, put Disney on
the map for sure.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
But the actual so the first color movie like full
length is considered The World, the Flesh and the Devil
from ninth teen fourteen, but that used some other kind
of color, Kinema color, okay, and it wasn't the same
as the technicolor.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Yeah, it doesn't look good.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
And you could just think, like when you watch The
Wizard of Oz, you're like, okay, I'm watching another black
and white film and then all of a sudden Oz
comes out and it's just all these colors and everything
like that. And again I already said it's one of
my favorite movies. But I think that because that changed
how movies were made, and just to see everybody, like
you said, everybody's expression the theater when they get to

(52:33):
Oz and you're just like wow.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Okay, yeah, because I'm I know, movie trailers have been
around forever even before Wizard of Oz, but they were
done completely different, okay, And I'm going to assume that
majority of the audiences had no idea that this was
not going to be a black and white movie, especially
if you're watching the first twenty five minutes of it
and it is black and white. You don't expect that

(52:56):
jump to the beautiful technicolor which has aged tremendously. Watched
The Wizard of Oz, which I did in theaters a
few years ago, and it's just as beautiful as it was,
you know, extraordinary, you know, sets and costumes and great characters.
I mean those characters are iconic.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Oh yeah, just.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
The silhouette of them. You don't even need to see them.
If you just see a silhouette of them, you know
exactly who they are. It's the most famous movie of
all time.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Yeah, I agreed, And uh, that's why I would want
to see it.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
I have no issue with that. You've never seen it
in theaters, not even for any release. No, damn, I
wish I knew you a few years ago. We could
have went together for Judy Garland's one hundredth birthday. Now,
I used to as a kid. I used to get
stoned and watch The Wizard of Oz sync it up
with Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
I never did it, but I've obviously heard that. Yeah,
and is it Is it an experience worth trying or not?

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Yeah? I would say so, especially if you're with the
right people, because we would do it, and you know,
we'd be at my friend's house and it's just this
goofy atmosphere and I don't even know if it really works,
but in your mind it's working, like she's looking at
certain things and then the songs are changing, and he
had surrounded sound, so when she would look like from
side to side the sound of and I love Pink Floyd.

(54:12):
They're one of my favorite bands, and that's one of
my favorite, if not my favorite album of all time.
And uh, when they actually get to OZ, that's when
the song money kicks in, which is a bad as
tract exactly, so right when she opens that door money,
it's fucking awesome.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
So it's got to be weird though, because you obviously
watched the movie with no sound on because you're.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Just and then you have to click play when the
MGM Lion does its third roar, you can't play on
dark side, and then we usually give up, like you know,
once the album ends, because you're not going.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
To like, oh, it doesn't go the whole movie.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
I don't even know. Maybe I don't know. We usually
so I want to say the album is shorter than
the movie. But like I said, we probably gave up
and stopped watching and you know, played video games or whatnot.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
And you know, that was just some random dude on
drugs one night list into Pink Floyd and it was
like this goes. He's like, yeah, this goes.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
I don't know who was the first guy to figure
that out.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
And some sober person did it and they're like, what
was this guy talking about. I think it was your
therapist that sorted He's like, wait, this actually goes to
the movie.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
And then his person that he's working with is like
telling serious like issues in their life, like I want
to end my Life's like, yeah, but have you watched.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Dark Side with It'll it'll turn it around. It'll turn
your life around.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Let's get to a comedy, because I talked to my
audience with the film reel last week about how little
comedies are out there and how bad they are, and
my favorite comedic actor is no longer around and I
never had the pleasure of seeing him on the big screen.
So if I'm going to pick one movie of his,

(55:51):
I'm gonna go with the nineteen ninety five classic Tommy Boy.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Chris Farley, Chris.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Farley, David Spade do well. It's not just the comedy,
but it's got heart to it. You feel for Tom Callahan,
he loses his father and it could be emotional and
it's got you know, it's got great chemistry between Spade
and Farley, and who knows what they would have done.
Chris Farley is one of those what ifs? What would
he have done? When you have became a serious actor,

(56:18):
you look at, you know, guys like Bill Murray, You
look at guys like Eddie Murphy, guys that have put
on Oscar caliber type of performances. Even Sandler and Uncut
Gems a few years ago put on a really good performance.
Farley had the acting chops. You see him cry in
Black Sheep a few years after Tommy Boy, and he's
given a decent performance. So he actually was going to
be Shrek. I don't know if you know that he
recorded ninety five percent of his dialogue and then died,

(56:41):
and they have a bunch of test footage out there,
and it's one of those movies I would love to
actually have be released is the Farley Cotton Yeah, but
then he died and they're like, listen, if we're gonna
make sequels on this. We got a recast and they
got another SNL guy, Mike Myers. But I would love
to watch this movie with an audience in theaters because
I want to let with a crowd, and I this

(57:02):
is my favorite comedy of all time and just getting
to see Farley, who's so larger than life, and I
never got to see him in the largest form on
the big screen. I'm hoping they release it in theaters
this year for a thirtieth anniversary. I can't believe it's
thirty years since Tommy Boy's been out. But it's one
I actually picked up on VHS last year and it's
one of my favorites. It's a family favorite of ours

(57:25):
and definitely one i'd want to see on the big screen.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
So you obviously still have a VCR. Yeah, that's impressive.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
I just took my grandma's VCR as a whole debacle
because my VCR stopped working. And some of them are
pricey actually believe, especially if you have the controller that
could be you know, fifty sixty bucks, and I asked
my grandma, who's ninety six years old and hasn't turned
on her VCR in thirty years. I said, Grandma, can
I please have this VCR? No? No, I said, please.

(57:51):
You're never going to use this. In fact, last time
you tried to use the DVD player on it and
it was a whole catastrophe. Her helper, her aid, couldn't
figure it out. I had to turn around my car
and figure out how to get off of the DVD.
So please, can I have this? No. Three weeks go by,
my mom visits and she says, oh, Nanny says, you

(58:12):
can have the VCR. Thank you, Thank you, Nanny. Then
we're watching Miracle on thirty fourth Street. I say, can
I have that VCR? She said, okay, sure, I unplug it.
Granted it's only plugged into the electrical outlet. It's not
connected to the TV. Has been connected to the TV
in four or five years. I unplug it. Ten minutes

(58:32):
go by, the streaming of Miracle on thirty fourth Street
starts buffering. She goes, that's because you want to put no, Nanny,
it has nothing to do with that. It's it's like
it wasn't even connected. It's just the streaming, like the
Internet must be bad. Oh okay, yeah, ten minutes go by,
it buffers again. Now this doesn't have to do with

(58:53):
because you unplugged it. Like listen the Wi Fi vcr
fi but the VCR is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
So yeah, Tommy Boy was a great movie. Spade and
Farley were They just work so well together.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
And they have such a weird dynamic off the screen because, uh,
Farley obviously had his drug issues and he was clean
actually during Tommy Boy, but they had a volatile relationships.
Farley seems like a handful. He seems like a guy
you'd want to hang out with and then you wouldn't want.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
To small dose.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
He seems like he can get out of control.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Loud, and he eats a lot, and he's just you know,
doing drugs and uh, but they they were actually beefing
on the set of Black Sheep and Farley was supposed
to be in a few movies. You're supposed to be
a cable guide and Jim Carrey took that role and
who knows what he would have done, but definitely one
of those movies. I mean, Johnathan, this list could change.
I could think of one hundred movies. Of course i'dn't

(59:49):
even pick. And I'm gonna say it because I think
you might actually pick this one. There's one movie though
definitely could easily be on this list, but we're gonna
save it. So what's your number two movie you'd want
to see in theater?

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Just real quick? The best part of watching a comedy
in the theaters is when everybody is laughing so much
that you actually miss you have to rewatch the movie
because you miss so many jokes because you're laughing. And
the last movie that I saw that I remember like
that is And I don't know if you I've definitely
brought this up to you before, and I'm not sure
if you like it. But were the Millers.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Never saw it, never saw Jason.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Sedakas, Jennifer Amiston dying las Yeah, like again, how to
watch it? Because I was like, I don't remember that, yeah, yeah, yeah,
And I'm like, oh yeah, because everybody was laughing for
ten minutes straight and you know, you missed the next
three four jokes. And I'm a big Jason Dagas fan,
and I thought the movie was was hilarious and great

(01:00:46):
and just I like his type of comedy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
I think the two hardest laughs I've ever had in
a movie theater would be bor At Okay and Jackass two.
I was stoned out of my mom with my buddy
Tylerry watching both of these movies. But Jackass. I love
the Jackass movies. Those are my guys. I thought the
last one that came out was one of the funniest
movies ever. I think they're all hilarious, but Jackass two

(01:01:09):
to me is by far the best.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
And they're nuts, those guys are.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
They're insane, out of their minds. And and now you know,
Steve O's sober and he's still doing this stuff. So
all right, what do you got? Number two?

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
So originally I wrote down Rocky.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
I was the one I was.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
However I need to see However, I think I would
rather see Rocky four, only because again, now you're in
an audience with people, right, they've seen the other Rockies,
the first one, of course, you know it's the first
time you're seeing it. It's a great movie, Rocky. But
the ending, right is, I don't I don't even remember
now he he doesn't correct, But that's the beauty.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
But to see everybody's reaction when he beats Strago in
a movie theater with you know, the big sound and
the lights and everything. I think I think I would
have to pay Rocky four if I had to pick a.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Rock with a very pro American crowd, that would be great.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Yeah. Yeah, with Trump and a couple other people.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Yeah, that would be That would be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I mean, I'm not going to watch it in Russia.
I'm not gonna go to Russia to watch it. That
would probably be a different Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Change, you can change, change, man. I love Rocky four.
I did a whole Rocky series on the film reel.
Rocky is my favorite film series of all time. Okay,
the first one is my favorite. I would rank it.
This is how I believe I had the ranking, the
Ranky Rockings, the Rocky rankings. Definitely one was one. I

(01:02:41):
want to say three was number two. I love clubber Lang,
mister T. I love thunderlips in the flesh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
And that's when the tiger is that when Drago kills
that's the beginning of four.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
That's the beginning. Okay, So three is uh, mister mister T.
And then the eye of the tiger, Apollo helps him
I would rank and this is the hot take here.
I'm gonna rake Rocky two, which no one talks about,
as my third best one. Wow, and then I'll put
Rocky four.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Yeah, Okay, that's I know. It's a hot and I
love Rocky four, and I love the score of Rocky
four by Vince Nicola. It's it's a Bill Conte. Bill
Kanti rather did the music for all the Rocky movies
except Rocky four, and Rocky four is a very synth
heavy film score. And I actually interviewed Bill Conti on
a radio show years ago. He did the film score

(01:03:33):
the Transformers of the movie was my favorite movie of
all time. Terrible movie, but I love it. Old one
from eighty six, favorite movie of all time. But Rocky
four is no story for the most part. So it's
like it's like an hour fifteen minute montage and it's great.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I'm not saying that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
It goes from one training scene to the other. I
love it. I'm not saying I don't like it, but
it doesn't have the story that one and two have.
One and two we're like really great movies. Three and four,
our cartoons come to life. Five is terrible. Yeah, I
still love it. Six is really good.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Actually, was that Rocky Ba or just Balboa? Rocky Balboa,
Rocky Balbo. Yeah, okay. Fantastic five is with Tommy Gunn Yeah, okay,
So I.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Would I would go one, three, two, four, six, five,
And then the Creed movies are fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
I didn't see the last one, Go one two three, yeah, okay, Yeah,
Creed was a very very good movie.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
The problem with three is there's no Rocky. He needs
the loan in that movie. And and I don't even
I love those characters so much. And I was so
sad when Pauli died a few years ago, and when
Apollo Creed, you know, Carl Webers died last year. I
was so upset with that. And and those characters are
so good that you don't even to me, I don't

(01:04:51):
even need Rocky to be a boxer in the movie.
I'm so I just love that character. That. Yeah, he
obviously can't fight in the ring, even though Stallone probably
would want to. What's the problem, Like, I'm eighty years old.
I'm an eighty year old boxer, you know. But I
think those characters are so good that you can have
him just you know, owning his business or having a
relationship with his son, and I think it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Works that way owning a gym, right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Just yeah, he got fucked over with that. That's why
he wasn't in Creed three. He makes like nope, well
it doesn't make no money. But he didn't own any
of the rights to Rocky So he gets screwed royally
out of out of what could have been, you know,
a billion dollars. He doesn't get any of it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Well because he wrote Rocky Road and he did it
himself because nobody would let him be in it, and
he wasn't going to let anybody else do it, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Yeah, but he doesn't have any of the steak and
the merchandise or any of them.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
I'll tell you. For as old as he is now,
which would you say, seventy five eighty?

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Yeah, I think seventy five.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
You ever watched Tulsa King, No, I heard, it's terrible.
I like it. I enjoy it. It's I mean, I
saw it's a no brainer show. Yeah, but he's a
mafia guy, goes to jail for twenty five years and
they send them they basically like screw them over and
send them to Tulsa and he becomes the Tulsa King.
But I mean, yeah, he couldn't do a boxing match.

(01:06:10):
But he's still in great shape for as old as
he is. I mean, he's never gonna not be in
good shape.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
He's on so many steroids. Well, yeah, so he's got
three smoking hot daughters.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
One of them's in it. Actually, oh yeah, one of
them's in it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
I don't know which one, so maybe I'll have to
watch just for the daughters. So Rocky four interesting, interesting take.
I remember talking with my father about him seeing the
first Rocky in theaters and how into it the crowd
was and they're all chanting because you know, they want
they want Rocky to win. And I think he was
talking to me about Rocky two in particular, because they're

(01:06:45):
both knocked out on the ground and it's a standing
ten count and they both have to try and get up,
and I remember him just telling me how crazy the
crowd was, and it's just I love that movie. The seventies,
although not my favorite decade for movies, probably had the
best movies of all time. I'm an eighties guy. I
love this the schlocky, shitty eighties type of movies, but

(01:07:07):
the seventies. That's when you had like Art. You know,
your Dog Day Afternoons, your Surpicos, your Godfather's, your Rockies, Jaws,
films like that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
They had good stories to them. Now we watch movies
and it's like, what's the story? Or I've been saying
this a lot recently, is these movies have good premise,
they're just not done properly.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
The last ten minutes of Rocky is one of the
greatest endings ever et Close Encounters with the Third Kind,
Rocky and Field of Dreams are the four, in my opinion,
best endings to any movies of all time. And Rocky
it's just everything, the music, the no Adrian, we did it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
And like you said, I could picture people in the
movies basically acting like they're at the boxing match, like
you said, yelling stream and cheering, like not watching a
movie like you're out of boxing match.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
That movie changed lives. I mean, there's a reason why
Sylvester Sloan is in the Boxing Hall of Fame because
of that movie. I mean, it rejuvenated a sport which
was falling from grace. You know, you still had Ali boxing,
but he was a shell of his former self. And
when people think of boxing, they think Ali, they think Tyson,

(01:08:19):
and they think Rocky. Yeah, he's that iconic. And I
know so many people that started exercising. I mean when
I started exercising again recently, I listened to my Eye
of the Tiger, and if I'm on my stationary biker
lifting my weights, I'll listen. Oh, I'll rather watch on
YouTube montages of training.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
You're not punching slabs of meat in the freezer.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
That's for after I'm beating my meat. Let's move on
to our number three movie that we want to see
in theaters for the first time. And this is a sequel,
so you mentioned the sequel actually quickly before we get
to that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
One.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
One movie that was awesome and it's recent. The latest
Evenge movie was such a fun thing to see in theaters.
Whichever was The last one was that game. It was
Abnity Warrior. Then Endgame that I did see in the
movie that was freaking awesome. Man, crowd going nuts, sold
out show. You couldn't get tickets for days for that show.

(01:09:17):
I luckily got like a back row seat on a
random day and luckily it wasn't spoiled and audience was
going nuts. And it's it was. There really hasn't been
an experience in the movies for me, at least since then.
My Number one is a sequel, and I was debating
which one to go with.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
I think I know you're gonna say.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
And it has arguably the greatest twist in any movie.
It is the Empire Strikes Back.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
I did not know you were going to say that
one Terminator.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Which would have been awesome as well, which I did
get to see in theaters a few years ago they
re released it. I've never seen an Empire. I've saw
a New Hope. I saw Jedi. I didn't get to
see Empire during its special edition in ninety nine, nor
would I want to. I want to see the original
cut from nineteen eighty Empire Strikes Back, which is by
far my favorite Star Wars movie. In fact, I think

(01:10:09):
Star Wars is the most overrated franchise of all time.
It's two and a half good movies and the rest
are pretty much shit. But I love Empire Strikes Back.
Han Solo is perfect in that movie. He's just a
badass womanizer who is just smooth as silk when he's
about to be frozen in carbonite, Princess Lea says, I
love you, and he just looks up and says, I know.

(01:10:31):
Oh that's just the g right there, So so so great.
You have the introduction of Bubba Fett, you have the
introduction of Lando Calrisian, and you have the introduction of
my personal favorite Star Wars character, Yoda. And seeing that
character must have been so jarring for audiences because you're
hearing about this Jedi he has to be trained by

(01:10:52):
this Master Yoda, and you're expecting this, you know, badass character.
You just saw Darth Vader. So this guy's gonna train
Luke and he's got to be the twice the size
of Vader. And then he's this Kermit the Frog guy
and you don't even know who he is. You just
think he's this, you know, obnoxious asshole. He's like messing
around with Luke's stuff, he's gone through his flashlight and

(01:11:12):
then you find out, no, this is Master Yoda right here.
And it's such a good message. It's like, don't judge
a book by its cover. Just because he's goofy and
small and green at eight hundred years old, he's more
powerful than any of these Jedis ever, so it's got
that lesson, but the main thing that Darth Vader reveal
of him saying, no, I am your father. If I

(01:11:36):
was in the audience for that. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Unfortunately, I can't. I can't add anything to this conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
You Star Wars.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
I've ever seen a Star Wars whoa No, never whoa
just not my uh, not my cup of tea. And
I just never watched them.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
I'm assuming Jackie is Jackie has never seen any of that.
I'm gonna go with no, you don't like sci fi?

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Not my favorite genre, but I mean I will watch
you know sci fi movies.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Empire. It is beautiful, beautifully shot. John Williams is the
greatest film composer of all time. He got the great
film score. Carrie Fisher fantastic to look at all, coked
out of her mind. It is its perfection visually, storytelling wise,
it's it's everything together. And Star Wars was the biggest

(01:12:26):
film series of all time. In that original movie which
made more money, but it was such a juggernaut and
just the build up, like, okay, Star Wars comes out
in nineteen seventy seven, and then you have to wait
three years, and I couldn't imagine that whole build up, like, oh,
they're making another one, what is this gonna be, what's
gonna happen? How are they going to continue this series?
And then it lived up to the hype. How many

(01:12:46):
times have we seen movies we have one good movie
and you're waiting for the sequel, and it's just, oh,
never is good. No, we shouldn't have made a sequel. Yeah,
I mean, you have Aliens, you have Terminator two, But
for every one of those, you have, you know, a
die Hard too instead of a die Hard. And I
don't mind die Hard too, but it's not die Hard.
You have Leath the Weapon too, which isn't as good

(01:13:07):
as Leath the Weapon. And those are good movies. There
are terrible sequels that are just god awful. Why would
you make this? But Empire Strikes Back? Would love to
Travel nineteen eighty Watch that with a sold out crowd
opening day.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Actually, one of my favorite movies is a sequel. I've
definitely told you this before. But Bad Boys too.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
I remember you saying that, Yeah, is that going to
be your number one must see?

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
No, I did see that in movie theaters. I remember
you remember that that one. I remember I remember I
was with my cousin and his friend and I want
to say we were in I want to say we
were in like Maryland. I think my buddy went to
college down there. Yeah, and we were like, we gotta
go see it. Actually, I've seen every Bad Boys in
the movies. The third one was the worst, and the

(01:13:51):
last one was. Yeah, not as good as the first two,
but not as bad as the third one. No, So
I head down, which you mentioned as an honorable mention
was Jurassic Park. But I think my third one is
going to be which it just happened to be on
TV the other day and I saw it, and I go,
this movie would be badass to see in the movies.

(01:14:11):
And that is Saving Private Ryan. Just all the action
and the gunshots and the you know, people getting shot
and body parts blown up, and just on the big
screen with that sound. Sound, the sound. Yeah, so I
would go with Saving Private Ryan.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Another Spielberg movie. You know, we mentioned Jurassic Park, and
Saving Private Ryan is one of those movies that didn't
win Best Picture. It lost to Shakespeare in Love, which
nobody talks about that shitty movie. And it's just why
a war shows really don't mean anything. To me, in
the long run of things, Saving Private Ryan is a
movie that gets played every single year. Anytime there's you know,

(01:14:52):
the fallen Soldier, you always think about, at least I do.
I think about that movie and just the hardships that
these guys had to go through. You know, even today,
you know, modern military, although drastically different than what they
were doing back in nineteen forty four. Uh, these guys
have so much courage and bravery and the sacrifice that

(01:15:15):
they put out there is in something that I know
I definitely could not do. And that movie is brilliant.
And it's not just the action, it's the whole ensemble.
Cash You have such a great cast. I mean Vin
Diesel's in it, believe it or not, very young Vin Diesel,
but I mean Matt Damon's great. Tom Hanks is one
of my favorite. Tom Sizemore was out of his mind.

(01:15:37):
I think he passed away a few years. He's struggling
with a lot of addiction issues. But that is such
a guttural type of movie and I think it yes, yes,
And I've heard people that were actually storming the beach
of Normandy talk about that experience while watching the movie.

(01:15:58):
After watching the movie and they say, this is it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
This is very realistic what it was, how it happened.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Yep. And the crazy thing is, and this is something
that got brought up a few years ago when Alec
Baldwin accidentally killed that person. They talked about how Saving
Private Ryne there was actually no gunfire being done. It
was all computer generated.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
All the guns were rubber, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
So I mean that was a movie that came out
almost thirty years ago at this point, nineteen ninety eight. Yeah,
so I think we could get away from from actually
using real, real gun.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
I mean, like you said, the CGI and everything nowadays
you got you know, fake animals, and you know you
can't you can't fake a gun.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Yeah, there's apps that you could do on on your
phone that where you can make like rockets, shootout and
you could have guns. Spend a little money, get it
to you know, be safe, because you know, it's just
a shame when accidents like that happened. But I love
Saving Private Ryan And it's definitely one of those movies
that I can't watch often because it's it's just that

(01:17:02):
in Schindler's List, there are two of those movies that
are Spielberg masterpieces, and they're not the glitz and glamour
of a summer block bluster type of movie. It's not
Jurassic Park, it's not Raiders of the Lost Arkids, more
of like, damn, I'm so glad I didn't have to
go through that type of life.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Yeah, I couldn't imagine.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
But Jurassic Park is definitely. Uh, it's another one I'd
want to see for sure. Anything else that jumps to
mind that we missed out on the Rocky one is
one that I'm looking at it. I probably want to
see Rocky over exor System more I think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Oh yeah, I love Rocky.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
I do you not love Rocky?

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
I don't know. You wanted to see everybody passing out
and throwing up, and.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
I've never seen any of the Rocky movies besides Balboa
in the theaters. They re released Rocky four in theaters
because they had a director's cut and I had fucking
bowling that night, so I couldn't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
You could have did it, and you could have told
me what the experience was.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
Know. Oh, I know, I missed out and it was
like a sold out crazy showing apparently my buddy Ray
who works at the radio stations, Tommy, he went to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
People probably walking in with American flag draped over their
backs exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
We missed out. So we'll see if there's any movies
in the last you know, ten years that you know,
twenty years from now, thirty years from now, people will
be talking about. I wish I saw that. I think
the big one that comes to mind is that Avengers movie. Yeah,
I think that's one that people will be saying. I
really also think Wicked. I think I think Wicked's gonna
have a staying power, don't. I don't know if Barbie,

(01:18:32):
as popular as it was, is going to be talked
about ten fifteen years from now, But I could see
Wicked because theater kids are crazy, man.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
I mean, listen, Wicked's been on Broadway for what twenty
five years now, so it's not like it's going anywhere. Yeah,
but yeah, I don't think the Barbie movie is going
to be talked about.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
But it made a ton of money.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
Well yeah, I mean, all you have to do is
put something out, I mean for kids, even though it
wasn't really a kid movie.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
No, my niece hated it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
I wanna say. It wasn't a kid movie, but it's
it's named Barbie, so you know, every girl between five
and fifteen is gonna be like, could we go see this?

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
Yeah? You know then even parents who grew up with
Barbie to My mom's a big Barbie fan. So we'll see.
We'll see. If you know, maybe thirty years from now
we'll do a part two of this thing. I think
he did fantastic on this.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Thank you. I have one question for you because I
gave you. I gave you a couple of movies to watch. Yeah,
and I watched A Time to Kill Time to Saw.
I want to know what you thought.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
Okay, this was a film starring Matthew McConaughey and Samuel L.
Jackson where Samuel Jackson's character's daughter is brutally raped and
she was going to get killed. I guess they were
going to lynch her. And this takes place in the South.
I want to say Alabama. It could be mistaken. It's
a modern day, so the movie took out place in

(01:19:51):
the nineties, in the nineties when those filmed, so it's
not like a fifties or forty seven. And we're gonna
get into spoilers real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
If they haven't seen it by now, well, I never
sew well even though you haven't seen it. But ninety seven,
I didn't know what it was. It was Mississippi, by
the way, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Mississippi, sipp So the daughter gets away, she doesn't get killed.
But Samuel Jackson is informed about this happening, and basically,
these two rednecks who were the ones that did it,
get arrested, and he realizes these people might get out
because they're white men in Mississippi, and even if they

(01:20:31):
get convicted, they might get out in ten years, or
they might get away with it. So he goes into
the business for himself and kills them. He gets a
machine gun, which I thought that scene was a dream
or an imagination.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
I hadn't no idea it happens. I didn't know walk
right into the court house.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
I've seen scenes of this movie, and I thought it
was about the court case involving her rape, and I
thought it was going to be about them not being convicted.
I had no idea it was a murder trial that
was to be happening. So he brings a machine gun
into the court before I guess they're going into the courtroom,
kills them too, and then blows off one of the
cops legs and white cop who ends up being a

(01:21:14):
hero of sorts and saying like I would have done
the same thing he was.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Also, the Ku Klux Klan is part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
What about it?

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
I'm saying, that's a big part of the movie. Yeah, yeah,
yeah're in the cross In McConaughey's long.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Yes, So the brother of one of the rapists contacts
the Ku Klux Klan and sort of raises hell for McConaughey,
who's the lawyer who's taking up for Samuel Jackson, and
he's you know, the clan is sort of running wild
and attacking Sandra Bullock, who's a young wanna be lawyer

(01:21:52):
who's helping McConaughey, and you know, it's it's obviously a
far fetched story in the sense that if a guy
goes into a courtroom with a machine gun and kills
two people, they're not gonna have him get away with it.

(01:22:12):
I don't think it matters if he's black or white.
It's just it's a little far fetched. For me. I
personally would have felt maybe the story would have First
of all, I really liked the movie, I want to
say that. And the acting was fantastic. What a cast, Yeah,
cast is insane. This is like every single scene is like,
oh my god, there's that guy. There's that guy. Oh
he was in that. Yeah. One big story after another

(01:22:34):
and a lot of stars that are getting started like
that was definitely Sandra Bullock one of her first movies
for sure. Maybe she was in Judge Dread the Year
or not Judge Dread Demolition Man, which is a great
McConaughey was just getting started as well. I wish there
was more Samuel L. Jackson. That was an issue I had.
I don't know if we needed this fake love sort
of thing with Sandra Bullock really didn't lead to anything.

(01:22:58):
Wasn't necessary in my opinion. I think it could have
maybe worked a little bit more. And obviously they're going
for this as part of the plot and part of
the trial. If Samuel L. Jackson caught these two guys
raping the daughter and then he killed them and then
that became the trial, because it would have been not

(01:23:18):
that I felt sympathy for these guys, but it's like
he just murdered two people. It's so over the top, like.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Yeah, but there's no way you could be on their side.
You gotta be on Samuel Jackson's side, even though he just.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Gone on my Yes, I'm on Samuel Jackson's side because
if that happened to my daughter, I'd want to do
the same thing. But also it's like, this is kind
of stupid, Like he just murdered two people and shot
off a CoP's leg in broad daylight without them even
you know, going to trial. So I think it would
have been a little more realistic or just believable, and

(01:23:50):
more rooting for Samuel Jackson, not that I wasn't rooting
for him, but it was good and it had a
satisfying ending, and it was a good recommendation for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
That and I think when you watch some of these
movies that were made in the mid to late nineties
even early two thousands, and you see some of these
casts and you're like, because again they're just starting off,
But then when you actually watch it now, you're like,
how did they get all these people? Yeah, it's like, Wow,
it's crazy, Like Kevin Spacey, Oliver Platt, Charles S. Dutton,

(01:24:22):
who is he? The Rock? Dead Dad from something? The Rock?
Who was it?

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
I'm not sure, but then I mentioned.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
Pigeon Lady from Lady, that piece of trash. Keifer and
Donald Sutherland love he plays a good bad guy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
He's great. You want to always he's always a great
bad guy from Lost Boys and stand By Me. He's
very unlikable. I wonder at Ashley Judd, who I feel
bad for her because it's like she did nothing wrong
really and McConaughey is pretty much going to cheat on her.
Uh what what? What's the budget for this movie? I

(01:25:00):
want to look that up a time.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
It was based on a John Grisham novel.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
Yeah, I was. I was reading up about it and
it did make a lot of money. One hundred and
fifty two million dollars on a forty million dollar budget. Yeah,
So I wish they made more movies like this, you know,
smaller type of films that were story driven and you
don't need crazy special effects. It's just great actors all together.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Yeah, that's just great. And that's just a movie that, like,
to me, when you watch it, like puts a pit
in your stomach. Yeah, because you're just like, oh my god,
like how could they do that? And then, like I said,
you're rooting for a guy who just murdered two people,
and then all the stuff that happens with the Ku
Klux Klan and everything with McConaughey and that it's just

(01:25:44):
like you want to punch somebody. Yeah, like that's what Like,
that's the feeling I get watching that movie. But I
thought it was such a good movie.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
And justice is served for people that are wondering. It's
it's not like, uh, Samuel Jackson gets put in jail,
he gets a quick of the murder was again, would
never happen. I would assume I would like to hear
from like an actual lawyer. They do a lot of
those things on YouTube where real lawyers go over law
scenes or okay, and I find stuff like that fascinating.

(01:26:13):
They'll have real doctors go over doctor scenes and movies,
or palaeontologists go over dinosaur movie scenes. I wonder what
a real lawyer would say, like what actually would go down?

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Like I haven't seen the movie in a long time,
but I think they use insanity.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
Right, Yeah, that was the thing that he.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
Was so out of it because of what happened to
his daughter. Yeah, I mean, obviously you think it's premeditated.
When the guy walks into the courtroom with the gun.
How could you be insane? But I guess on the
letter of the law, he could have been temporarily insane
when he did the act. So I would like to
hear I'm a fake lawyer, so I can't I can't
help you on that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
And this is where because I watched Chappelle Show and
they had the Samuel Adams and then Samuel L. Jackson
beer and then he says the line, yes, they deserve
to die and I hope they burn in hell. And
I didn't know where that was from until this movie.
So for that reason alone, I'm glad I watched the movie. Jonathan,
thank you so much for joining me on this filmer.

(01:27:09):
We're gonna have to have you back.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Listen now, we'll come back as long as you'll have me.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
Well, you had a great performance, so we'll have you
back soon. Have a good one, all right,
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