July 2, 2024 • 50 mins
The theme of every rez in America - Love & Basketball - is the subject of this week's episode of the Red Gaze. Go back in time and relive some of the best scenes.
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War your gi mand again, man, you bud us on our screen,
dyed with paints and wigs and oldend days, everything but all red gaz
hi yo hi hi yoho yore.Hey, everybody, welcome to the Red
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Gaze. So today we are takingon a star quilt movie. It's the
theme of every reservation in America andanybody guests easy three two one, Loving
basketball. This was Marley's identity.Yeah. Hey, so welcome to the
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Red Keys. I am your host, Cheryl Carrie, and I am here
with my fellow podcasters Collins Rising Sun, Hey, dylanne Long Feather, Hello,
and extended applause. I forgot tomention this last week, the newly
appointed doctor Marley Finley. Yes,our very own podcaster here just recently completed
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her studies and was officially crowned Doctorof Pharmacy. Yeah, described me for
that right away. That's what everybodywas saying to me after I graduated.
So, yeah, we were takingon this this movie love in Basketball.
It is definitely one that everyone hasseen before. So our first question to
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all of our podcasters is what makesus a star quot movie for you?
By the way, we have Collinshere. He drank a full thing of
hater aid before. We have threeladies here that love this movie, and
so we got to get a haterin here, all right. So what
makes this movie a start move foryou? Definitely the basketball part. You
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know, a lot of Natives,that's like a big it's like part of
our culture. So yes, yeah, basketball. And then couples who basketball.
Yeah, there's always those couples thatbasketball together. Yep. And then
they always show the family in thismovie too, so the family is like
a big part of both of theirfamilies. The guy and the girl are
a big part of the movies.So I think that's why, like a
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lot of Natives go towards this moviebecause it's like, oh, this is
kind of like my life, youknow. Well yeah, because they've known
each other since they were kids,and like a lot of people grew up
on the Reds and grew up justdown the street from this kid, and
yeah, like its had that childhoodrush. Yeah that played basketball, that
played basketball. Yeah, like likeI said, me and like delayed,
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our dads played basketball, so youknow, like we grew up around it,
and we grew up around it.Some people are more athletically inclined.
I think that has fraened my anklebefore even playing a game, coming off
the game to play the game.Coming to the game, sprained my ankle.
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I forgot about that. So whenI was growing up too, there
really wasn't any other sport but basketball. I mean, nowadays it seems like
kids have a little more options withdifferent sports and things like that, but
back in the day, it's youeither played basketball or you played basketball.
But yeah, so yeah, likecross country, yeah yeah, so every
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community has that old wooden basketball hoop, been the dirt court and the you
know where people go shoot around andold worn out basketball. So yeah,
basketball is at the heart of everythingnative I think. Yeah, another question,
then, what what's the scene thatmakes this a start cull movie for
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you? When Monica they're in collegeand like Monica goes over to his dorm
and he's got a nice got anotherwoman there to eat to. His friends
are just like laughing. They allget quiet, and then because they're playing
games and they see and they're like, oh, it's about to see him.
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But that's the scene I was thinkingof too, because I was like,
oh, yeah, we've all beenin those where you know something's gonna
happen between this couple, and you'rejust kind of like, how juicy is
this gonna get? That scene waswhat made it a stark quilt, but
it also tied into like my namemoment because she was like, never mind,
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I'll leave. I'm like no way, no way, threw hands.
She would have beat both of themup exactly. They were actually dating when
they made this movie. Really yeahlike this, I think this is like
the ugliest she looks in a movie, And I think they had to do
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it on purpose, Like she's goodlooking, but like, I don't know,
I think I'm just judging here againstTyra Banks this whole time. Yeah,
I don't think Tyra Banks is prettyat all. No, No,
her five head, Yeah, shegot a five head and she's crazy.
I watched all of those Uh what'sher show called Back in the Day's Next
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Top Model. I used to watchthat all the time. Back in the
day. She gave us all badlike thoughts about our bodies when we were
kids too. She's not a goodperson, but she did that to the
contestants on her show too. Like, if you actually watched, I think
you would actually like that show.It's funny. The show Collins, I
think, but like a hater show. Yeah, it is super hater ish,
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it is. She's a big haterTyra. But Sanail is on.
She's beautiful, she's gorgeous. Shejust didn't have any makeup on, Like,
yeah, she just didn't have anymakeup on for this because she's a
tomboy in this movie. You know. I mean, I feel like you
would like that. That's how residgirls dress and look. Yeah, the
basketball shorts shirts for this movie.It just made it worse because everyone liked
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it when they came out, andI was like, I think this movie
is stupid. But it's like oneof those things where you keep hearing small
things about the movie and then youjust like, yeah, I remember because
they're saying so I like, theycan't play basketball in real life. Yeah,
she couldn't. And that was likeone of the first things I was
like, yeah, you can tellshe can't. Does it make this movie
worse? You know? I thoughtthe basketball scenes are actually good in this
movie turned to like movies bad,like teen Wolf. We always like make
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fun and Teine Wolf all the time, or the one that they show with
that girl where she's like I likethat. It was cheesy, but basketball
was okay, But we barely hadany girl basketball movies. That's what we
had was loving basketball and double Team. And everybody came to school after that
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show came on and we're all doingthat move. Maybe I'm mignist, you
are, You are just the hater. This movie was awesome and everyone liked
it did not like it. Andthen Omar Epsomen played together in what's that
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other movie that they were together inthe wood? Oh? Yeah, I
thought they were amazing. They havea good chemistry. Yeah, so what's
a really good movie? Same people. She's wearing makeup in it. That's
misogynist. It's about four it's notfour dudes. Character, What about you,
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Marley? Was there any scene thatjust like made this a res movie?
Probably just like the basketball scene,especially that last the last game.
I feel like a lot of teams, a lot of Native teams always make
it to state, so you know, that's like the big game and everybody's
there and there's a lot of pressure. So that's a big scene that I
think resonates too with a lot ofNatives. Is her state championship game.
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I like the little season. Alot of them are just kind of like
small dialogue things. But when they'rein the car in high school and he's
like, who are you taking tothe dance Spalding? Oh yeah, she's
just like think she's him, andshe's like stupid, that's something a Native
girl would do. She like punchedhim all hard when he said she was
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going to prom with Spalding. She'sall mad and like just blasting. That's
a Native girl. And the factthat when they were younger too, she
was ready to throw down with him, right yeah, rolling around in the
front yard, just beating him up, calling him big head. She beat
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him up at the end too.Go maybe that was the first part calin
scene. Yeah, the basketball courtscene too, is like a Native like,
you know, just playing playing againstall your cousins or your friends at
school, and it gets serious likethat. You know, Oh man,
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I've had some so many stupid games. Get serious like on the low rim,
you know, on the mini hoop, and you get so into it,
like you just start pushing people andwe'll start getting hurt, start trying
to take each other out, likejust playing regular twenty one. I remember
my brother almost dislocates her shoulder inthe game of twenty one. She gets
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mad and goes home. She's like, what do you guys dogs? They're
just roughing her up, like shehad padded on the back of the Oh
yeah, she can barely move.Something that I think a lot of kids
can relate to is like them fighting, like Quincy's Quincy's parents like, oh
yeah, oh no, that's obviouslythat's a normal thing that happens. Because
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they have the scene where he likecomes and knocks on the window and she's
just like, like it's routine,you know. She opens a window and
like throws a blanket down and throwshim a pillow and he just like lays
on the floor, like, butit's obviously something that has been happening for
years. And it's like how manykids listen to their their parents fun,
Yeah, and it's just a normalthing that happens. And well, and
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it was because Quincy's dad was runningaround on his mom and yeah mm hmm
a basket running around. But hewas on the worst team in the NBA,
Like she said, I was likewent for the jugger, just his
dad's team. They did suck andfor a long time though, Yeah,
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people still think they like suck eventhough they've been decent, but they can't
like shake that. You know,the Lakers are the l A team and
the Clippers are. Yeah, theyshould move them, like somewhere else,
like Seattle should get their team.I've been saying that. I've been saying
they should move the Clippers for along time because, like the California is
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big enough to have a bunch ofteams. Sacramento has a team, like
San Francisco, Golden State has ateam. They could just go up north
where they go to San Diego orsomething exactly. They don't have to stay
in Los Angeles. They could justbe a different California team. M Yeah,
I just remember like as a kid, I just wanted to be like
Monica so bad. I really likethe basketball montages. The music in this
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movie, I think a lot likethe ending is like, you know,
kind of cheesy. Yeah, butI think the music that they picked for
a lot of the scenes in thismovie just kind of make you forget that
it's a cheesy two thousands movie.Like yeah, but I really liked all
the scenes of Monica just like ballingout and being like a tough girl out
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there. You know, she's staringdown her opponents and everything and she knows
she's like the best out there.So I remember all of us little girls
that played basketball, we all werelike, we just want to be like
Monica and trying to be like Monicaout there. Like it wasn't really about
the relationship relationship. It was aboutMonica. Yeah, we like really love
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Monica because there's the part where shesays, I'm trying to be a baller.
If anybody should understand that, youshould. Yeah. I was thinking
about that too. Rewatching it theother day, it was like, this
was like a woman's empowerment movie beforethere was all these women empowerment movies now.
And in the end, the happyending is she gets int the w
N B A and then he's likeon the sidelines holding the kid. Yeah,
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which is yeah, that's how mylife is right now. I am
Monica. We did end up beinglike Monica and Joe Joe sitting on the
side of baby Joe going to theturnaments and we should say for the audience.
For those of you who don't know, Marley has bookoo championship jackets in
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her closet. Closet. Yeah,she has her own closet for just her
championship jackets. Recording. I thinkshe's one two Yeah, definitely, yes,
so she is Monica. Yeah,I ended just like Monica. They
think she put this movie out,so yeah, well you didn't have to
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go to Spain. Yeah, ohgod, I thank god. All right,
what about the dance. The danceis cool, the music is good
again the iconic lion. Damn,I didn't dresses snapping her eyes. I
know. I just hated Gabrielle Unionin this movie. They always made her
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Me like, yeah, I likeGabrielle Union because they bring it on.
And then she kept getting typecast aslike the mean side chick, the mean
girl. Yeah, but I likehow her and Quincy were all rinding up
all each other dancing. Monica wasjust sitting there and her date went to
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go get them drinks in here.She really sat down, like she was
on the bench. She relaxed,She relaxed, elbows on her knees and
just chilling. And somebody walked byher and she was like, oh yeah,
those guys were like, oh damn, checking her out. She forgot
she was wearing a dress. Shewas wearing a dress. And we were
kids when this came out, SoI always thought our high school dancers.
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Are they going to be like that? They're gonna be fun like that?
Just I went to red schools inhigh school and then a country Hicks school
and it was not like that atall, so at least fun like that
Natives are too bucky to dance.And then at Mandan they played country.
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So I don't know, man,that phs dances, You guys are like
the inner City of Bismark, innercity schools, the Devil's work. Something
else. Why did they spring danceor something? Public JS Junior Senior banquet.
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But it was basically the same thing. It was exactly some come in,
take pictures behind the backdrop, havea dance, have an after party,
you know what I mean. Likeit was basically the exact same.
There was no difference except I thinkwe listened to a lot of like DC
talk, and there was like theslow songs were like Jesus groups, you
know, like you got well versedin like who was the Christian artist?
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But because that who could be played? I know a few Christian songs just
because I had a teammate that washer family was so sometimes on basketball trips
I'd have to drive with them andI'm like, well, the song's kind
of good. I still listen tosome of those songs, but they like
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really talk about Jesus and stuff,and I'm like, dang, it makes
me want to be like, ohman, I love Jesus. Just getting
me in the spirits. Some ofthose songs indoctrinated on the road trips,
you know what they should be onthe reds. All right, let's talk
about Smudgebom. I would say hermom and her teammates, Sindram she was
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a hater her mom because like shewas. Her mom didn't seem like she
liked her at all. Oh yeah, they just seemed like she's like,
you need to be pretty, youneed to learn girly, Yeah, you
need to do all this, Likeshe didn't accept her at all. Like
it's so weird because I mean,everyone was excited to be a basketball player,
I think, and you know whatI mean, when you're a kid
in Indian like, I think you'remore ashamed if you weren't doing something,
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if you weren't trying, you knowwhat. And the moms are the ones
that are yelling in the stands,you know, for the native moms.
And then you find out in themovie that she didn't even go to her
any of her games. Yeah,she said, she only remembers her being
at too. The lady, thegirl that wrote this movie, said that
character is all This movie is basedoff her life, and the mom is
based off of her mom. Sheplayed basketball in high school and she was
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like a Division one track runner.But yeah, her mom never went to
her games. She said that shewas more hard around her mom at first.
In the movie, she toned itdown a bit and that kind of,
as she said, it helped herheal, you know. But like
doing this movie with her mom,like she realized her mom was supportive to
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her in other ways other than youknow, her mom had no interest in
sports. But yeah, this isthe only way my parents loved me.
Yeah, me too, that's me. So to stay on therapy talk parents
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traumatizing the kids in different ways.So any other smudgebones. Her teammate was
a hater at first, but thenthey became friends. So I liked that
they were just being competitive. Itwas like a mutual respect thing. Yeah
that came after that smuch bomb.Quincy's dad, I know, his dad
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sucked, Oh my god, justmessing around on his mom. And then
like you know, trying to manipulatetrying to manipulate him, and you kind
of I mean, there was asmall bit when he was, you know,
tried to be a good dad andwas telling him not to go in
to the to go pro, butthen he already ruined his relationship with his
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son by so by then Quincy waslike, well, I'm gonna go anyway,
because like some kind of dad youare, I'm not going to be
like you. I'm gonna whatever.But he ends up tearing his ace all
mangled anyway, So put dunk ingarbage time, shoot some three right there.
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I firmly believe in the basketball.And if you're dunking in a blowout
game and you barely get time,don't try to two hands tomahawk? Should
I listen to your dad? Takethe turn over? And now a lot
of players don't do that anymore thesedays because of injuries. They don't play
like that anymore. And that wasin a day when tearing your a cl
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was like the kiss of death.Yeah, it was funny, how dramatic
it seemless. They were like,he tore his a c L. Answer,
he's back in six months now,Yeah, even more in shape because
you get all the injuries, allyour other injuries, get back to normal,
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and you're actually come back better becauseyou guys like I even tore about
a cl eight years ago and itcame back, you know, fine,
But so it's not that big ofa deal. But yeah, that was
just made it seem like it wasjust ended his career while Monica was off
in Spain sitting alone in her apartmentdepressed family matters in Spanish and Spanish.
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I think, like going overseas backthen would a bit and way harder than
it is today because you can't FaceTime. There's no Wi Fi, like there
was nothing, like she had herphone bill. Yeah, you have to
use a long distance phone call.Oh my god. So those women that
bawled out overseas back then, Idon't think the movie really touched them that
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enough, like how groundbreaking that wasat the time. M I thought that
was pretty cool that they Even whenI was a kid, I didn't even
know that that's what women could dountil I watched this movie, and I'm
like, oh, so you cango over there, and like they said,
you could be a star and adifferent country, but you have to
move over there. But I mean, I was like, oh, so
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there is something you can do afterYeah, well they used her going over
to Spain, but they used itas almost like comic relief because she's sitting
in there and here their coaches reallypumping them up cheer into that. She
said, there wrapping her ankles.So she goes over to the one girl
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that speaks English and she said,he said to give the ball to you.
She was like, yeah, sowhat did he say. She wasn't
paying attention that whole time. Time, quick, little point. This has
made me notice a lot of thingsthat women in basketball. But they're like,
oh, she got pregnant, Likethat's like, you know how they
put up injuries. Yeahs, ConnieRandall got pregnant, decided not to come.
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They were done recruiting when they putthat up. Like the w n
b A. Now they put uplike yp players are missing like torn a
cl broken wrist, pregnant, pregnant. They still have to put that for
us motherhood under something. Yeah,it seems nicer. It's not like it's
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a bad thing to be pregnant someof those family So I think though,
like there's been some drama in thew n b A with players getting pregnant
and then them getting like traded toother teams are getting cut. So like
last year, the best team inthe NBA WNA that won the Aces,
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they traded like one of their theirsix girl off the bench. She like
won that award, but she gotpregnant and she worked her butt off to
get back into shape. She cameback in shape, but they faded her.
So they did like a whole investigationon them and stuff, but I
don't know, nothing came of it. But it's hard the way the laws
are set up in different states.So like they it was hard for them
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to like say that she was itwas because of her pregnancy. North Dakota
would have loved that. They wouldjust been like, no, we just
had to have your work. Wecould fight you for anything. We could
states North Dakota, we could doanything to women here. It's still kind
of like toxic in the women's basketballcircles. I guess pregnancy and all that
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well good things. They don't havethat Indian country, because I'll tell you
what, kid after kids, kidafter kid, I've seen some women ball
harder and get in better shape afterI've had teammates I did too play were
like four months pregnant, you know, playing people acting like pregnancy is a
kiss of death, like like theit's not a career ending a Yeah.
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Well then there's I like that theyshowed the overseas because more Native girls are
starting to play overseas now, ohreally. Yeah, there's there's a couple
I know that played overseas, likemy teammate Terray Briggs, she plays overseas
and Lexus Eagle Chasing those are too, my teams. They play overseas,
And there's a lot of men thatgo overseas yeah and play. So when
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I was younger, even when Iwas in college, that was not common.
And I mean that was like fifteenyears ago now you know all ten
agent, Yeah, almost fifteen yearsago. But yeah, like it wasn't
common for Natives to even go tocollege and play basketball. But now we're
playing bass college basketball now and goingoverseas, like we're moving up. Yeah,
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well, just being able to knowhow to access those opportunities where I
think in the past it's always beenlike coaches didn't want to take a chance,
yeah, and you didn't want tobe away from home for that long.
And I think there's more support nowand like you said there's more technology
so people can stay connected, becauseit is hard, I think for people
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to move away and not be aroundthe family and support and things like that,
and it gets lonely. You know. Monica had a hard time.
Yeah too for native kids. That'seven harder when you're used to having all
the social support. And so it'sgetting a little bit easier. And now
people see each other, yeah andyeah, gives them more like, oh,
I can do sense too. Yeah, I can do it too.
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All right, let's talk about thatlast scene, the the play for play
for your Heart, Play for yourHeart, Scene Your Heart. I say,
the only reason why that scene wedon't think it's that cheesy is because
the song that oh yeah, goodsong, Yeah full of me. If
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they didn't play that song that wholethinking about it, it's such a sad
song. The lyrics are sad.Yeah it is. It like gets you
emotionally into it because you're just likemakes you it's the end of the movie
and then you start it makes youthink about the beginning, you know,
like they've been they've been friends sincethey were kids, and they this was
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the whole this is do or die, and it's like she's getting desperate at
the end because he starts making hiscomeback. She was up like three zero
or four zero or something. Yeah. I like how they're like trash talking
each other too, takes his kneebirths out. She was like, you
think that's gonna help. I waslike, not that serious. He's taking
this man. He raced out toplay one on one against the girl he's
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in the NBA, Like, honestly, they're like the top point zeros are
one percent of players in the world. Monica didn't have a chance. And
then she takes off her shirt likethat's gonna help you threw her shirt down,
and I remember as a kid,I'm like, I wanted to look
like Monica. She was like buff, she had her abs. I'm like,
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those are the kind of like that'swhat I always wanted to look like
when I was a kid, Likethat's who you should look like. Is
want to be strong? You know? Yeah? I love that song.
That made a fool of Me songand it makes the ending You're just like
please want to you know, Andlike that end point where she goes to
check it off his chest, hedoesn't even catch it. He's off his
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chest. He's all mad, allintense. Yeah. I was like,
Oh, he's not playing around,not gonna let her wait, He's not
going to let her win. It'sgonna marry this Tyra Banks. Yeah,
I was like, ship, TyraBanks got it in a bag, that
bitch. She's so bad at actingtoo, like just her little scenes.
Her one scene was like hello,as if she wouldn't have noticed her the
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second she walked in the door inthe in the hospital. Yeah, she's
like, oh baby, what areyou doing? What are you doing?
Lay down? I can't stand thatscene. I hate that scene. She's
a bad act she's not a goodactress. No. And then like when
Monica's watching from across the way andshe's like taking his cute, his queue
down. That was one of thethings his cue. Are you kidding?
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Cue? You can't make him takehis cud He's all sad. He looks
so sad too that he couldn't bringhis cue. I was sitting there as
a little girl. I was justlike, how would to let him keep
his cute? Me too? Comeon, we'll figure out a way to
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getting the decor. That was theway to like make her look evil.
That worked on us, little girl. We want to let him keep his
cue. He can do anything thecue. Yeah, Like I said,
the soundtrack was good. Like,I know a lot of people don't like
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this movie now, Like I seea lot of people talk online about it.
Like he doesn't even say I loveyou to her, He doesn't throughout
the whole movie. He ever,that's true, says I love you.
She does say it to him.I've seen quite a few tiktoks where it's
just kind of like, this isactually a problematic movie. Yeah, And
I'm like, and it is becauseI wrote a big, oldlong paragraph here
about part that always made me likeannoyed even when I was younger, was
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it didn't make sense to me thatcue. He's a college athlete too,
he knows what it like take toget to that point. It takes a
lot of hard work, Like youhave no time, you're just literally playing
basketball. And when he gets madat Monica for not staying because she has
curfew they're both on the basketball team. You think you would like understand like
okay, like well we can talkabout this tomorrow on the phone or whatever.
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And then he cheats on her becauseof that, and he's like you
were never there for me, andshe's like, well I had curfew,
and like I'm like, come on, cute, what the work is wrong
with you? Like I was thinkingmaybe it's because he's spoiled, because they
don't show that he's spoiled. He'slike an NBA prospect out of high school
and stuff, so he doesn't havethe same pressures of he's a baby and
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he's a baby, yes, sohe doesn't have the same pressure that Monica
has. You know, she's workingher butt off. Yeah, she's doing
extra work on the side to tryto earn her spot. Yeah, she's
doing all her dribbling drills. Andthat's why I think this movie works though,
because he's the one that's supposed tohave this big care and he's the
one that's supposed to be the starand everyone's supposed to bow down to him
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or whatever, and then it endsup her. So that's why I think
it's a cool movie because it showsthat he can be supportive. He's the
male, but he can be supportive. And there's nothing wrong with that.
He didn't die, even though they'reacting like he had cancer or something.
Yeah, like what it didn't Itdidn't kill him to sit on the bench
with his baby and support his woman, and it's fine, there's nothing wrong
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with that. That's what I likedabout. That's what I really loved about
this movie is that Monica always chosebasketball. But she was always like,
I love basketball, that's her numberone love, and so she's always picking
basketball. Like he's there too.She also wants him, like you said,
be supportive of her journey too,like she wants to play basketball.
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And at the end, he finallytook him to tear his acl but he
had to lose a leg. Yeah, to be support but at least he
got there. I guess what elsedid we say about this movie? I've
not heard criticism That was kind ofone of the biggest things was that she
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had no support. She had nosupport. He didn't He never really told
her that he that he loved her. And yet then she like settles for
this man who she put on apedestal her whole life. Yeah, it's
kind of like she's selfish in away that she just wants everything her way.
Yeah, she somehow still gets it. He does kind of say that
at the end too. He tellsher that you think, but what do
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you guys think of the fact thathe didn't let her win. It's one
on one that competitive like it comesout and he started taking it serious.
So I don't know. I thinkit was just kind of a play on
the from the beginning of the movieto the end of the movie. Like
in the beginning, he knew shewas better, she was better than him.
That's why he put that scar onher face. Yeah, he threw
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and the only way they could stopher was to her. And so at
the end it was just kind ofhim being like showing her like I'm better
than you. Yeah, but Iguess I guess you can, Like you
can have my heart, I guessyou know. Like, I think it
was more realistic that he just likeboulder over and showed if I wanted to,
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I could, you know, Buthe didn't. He didn't have to
let her win, which I thinkto her competitive spirit would have would have
kind of pissed her off. Buthe showed her that but I'm still going
to pick you, which was cool. I thought it made it more romantic.
Yeah, and I kind of madeit realistic at the end where she
stripped the ball from him, likethat's a good way to show that,
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because I feel like you could babystrip an NBA player. You know you're
a girl. Yeah, and theymade it too old. That's your one
chance to get the ball, andthey showed that, and then she made
that little quick shot got the ballback. But I liked her a little
move too. She had a littlein and out. She's like, come
out. And then she missed thelamp. She blew it. She did,
and she knew it too because shewas she was mad and she's like,
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that's it. And then that's whenthey really started getting intense and like
the music was just all sad inthe background, so you guys were just
ring me tell me why. Iwas like, dang it, big tears.
Yeah. And then yeah, that'swhen when because when he turned around,
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he's like double or nothing. Iwas like, this is before we
knew the recipe for like those dramaticromantic movies. We didn't know, you
know, that was before I becamethe film critique that I am. We
know, like, what's going tohappen now in these movies, But at
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that time it was life or death. Yeah, we were still new to
the genre. Okay, what aboutwhere's my cousin? What part in this
movie do you think we could haveput in a native seed. Maybe they
could have had a cousin or somebodythat comes over to the house all the
time, you know, they showher sister a little bit. I liked
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the scenes with her big sister,you know, doting on her hair,
helping her be girly. But maybethey could have had like a cousin or
something come over, another girl thatplayed basketball or something. That would have
been because all the little girls theyalways have a friend that plays basketball with
them, you know, they're ona team. Like where's your friend at
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you know, to go shoot aroundwith or your cousin, you know,
so that would have been fun.I would have liked to see a teammate
on her college team, Yeah,someone who's just really scrappy like her,
really just trying hard to make iton the team, and she could have
threw down with her against that girl. She was just me. I was
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lucky ever had like a older girlon my when I went to college that
was mean like that. That wouldhave sucked. I would have hated my
life if I had somebody older onthe team that was like mean. I
liked how when she was in Spain, that's when she reconnected with Sido.
I think It would have been coolif there was like another like a native
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she had a home over there,yeah, yeah, somebody friendly, not
alone. Yeah, like she hadmade a friend from who's from the US
or something like that, but fromjust some like some native player that's like,
yeah, I know from the Statestoo, or something. That would
have been kind of cool for herto have, you know, like a
little buddy or something that they canboth be asking the teammate what did they
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say, or at the very beginningwhen they were first moving in and she
went to go play or whatever,it would have been kind of cool.
Like how Marley said, like shehad a cousin that came from wherever they
moved from. I don't does itever say where they moved that they had
just moved in and Mom being likeSusie homemaker bringing over like a homemade homemade
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homemade And what I liked about thismovie though, is that they were like
successful, you know, right,because I don't like it when they try
to make like blacks or native peopleof color like we're single parent family,
like everybody grows up like that.And that's where the writer of the story
said, like we all didn't growup like that. You know. Yeah,
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so some of us had families thatworked really hard to get out of
that cycle, and you know,they were able to build those kind of
things for their family. I lovethat too, because so many films always
got to be about the the understrugglesand the struggle and the yeah, and
this was just about the relationships andtheir parents, yep, and their parents
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and themselves and as they grew upand you know, they still had the
struggles, you know, like therelationship struggles even though they didn't have to
worry poverty and all of that.So it was I mean, it was
a solid movie. I've always lovedthis movie. I can rewatch it hundreds
of times and probably have. Ican like this movie, yeah, like
word for word through the whole thing, because I watched it so many times
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when I was younger. Yeah,I can like quote the whole thing where
I was like kind of doing ittoday because I'm like, let's see how
much I can remember. I waslike, oh, I still remember what's
going to come next? And yeahthat this was, like I said,
like one of my favorite movies Ilistened to. I remember downloading all the
music on my little computer. Istill listen to like that I want to
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be your man. I love thatsong when they're dancing looking at each other.
What's the what's the song when theyare intimately Oh yeah, that's a
good one too. That's that's agood song. I'm surprised you didn't bring
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up the scene where Monica's mom likeslaps her in the she's mouthing up.
That's the one she was mouthy.I'm like, I would have been slapped
a long time ago. She wasalways mouthing after her mom, and her
dad never did anything either. Yeah, she really she went there like Monica
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went there where she was just likeironing in his drawers, like something really
loud too. Yeah, Well she'slucky because she had a she had a
rolling pin there. She was rollingsomething. Yeah, and then you finally
get to see her mom's point ofview. It was like I had plans,
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you know, I wanted to dostuff too, but then I got
pregnant, like you girls. Shereally said it like they were just you're
just annoyed because she said that.I noticed that in the beginning of the
movie too. She said that whenQuincy's mom asked if she was a caterer,
and she's like, well, Iwant to you know, yeah,
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maybe when the girls get older,she said, And so it's like she
never did get to do what shewanted to do. So I wondered too
if that was like she was maybejealous of Monica, like doing her own
thing and like trying to getting tolive her dream. She didn't get to,
you know, she probably got knockedright away. Yeah. I think
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that is an interesting scene. Imean the whole dynamic. Yeah, because
it's like Quincy came from these bougieyeah, bougie because of his parents,
but also dysfunctional because their parents didn'tget along and his dad was always gone.
His dad was always gone, alwaystraveling. His mom was probably just
an at home alcoholicly yeah. Yeah, they show her drinking all the time.
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And then you have Monica's family whowas just like her dad is banker.
The banker and their parents are married. It seems likew bully married.
But it's also it's like old schoolschool where the dad works the mom stays
at home. It was just niceto see different different and how it affected
how they grew up and how theyview the world. Because Monica had this
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chip on her shoulder like, ohmy mom didn't support me. And that's
you know, she's so mouthy toher and just rude to her mom,
and I like, and then shefinally sees at the end when her mom
finally like slapped her, like yeah, like sometimes we just gotta knock.
Some kids didn't realize, like,yeah, her mom had to raise them,
yeah, you know, on herown. Her dad was probably always
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busy working. So it's interesting howthe script was flipped because Monica came from
this stable household more or less,and she had to really like scramble and
work really hard and practice and putin the work to get this dream that
she wanted. And on the otherside, Q is given this kind of
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on a silver planter nipple beby opportunitiesand he just he just wasn't into it.
Didn't well hurt himself, yeah,but I mean it could tell like
he really wasn't. There's that scenewhere he's trying to practice to get back
into it. He's just like,do I really want this? I didn't.
I didn't. I don't know ifI really want this. And so
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then he ends up being the supportiveparent, you know, with the kid
at her game. And then sheis in the w NBA and I think
it's cool that that was flipped,you know, because it does show like
they show the guy being like,yeah, the winner at the end,
but they showed the woman, yeahthe winner. Because then Quincy when he
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was younger, had a chip onhis shoulder because of his dad never being
there, you know, and hekind of sided with his mom. You
could see that he was kind oflike a little bit of a mama's boy
or whatever. But then yeah,he ends up becoming the supportive person because
he didn't end up like his dad. And so that was a nice little
thing. You don't really you reallythink about it when you're watching it,
but when you've watched it as manytimes, because you see all the difference,
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you see all the different things,and you can pick out all those
little nuances. And for a movieat that time too, like you know,
like nowadays, the kind of likethere's this rash of all these real
women empowerment movies type two thousand.Yeah, she wrote it, like in
the nineties. She wrote it.Yeah, she wrote the story before there
was a w NBA, So likethey added that little party and at the
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end, Yeah, it was supposedto end with him saying double or nothing,
and that was supposed to be theend of the movie. Yeah,
then the WNBA came around, sothey're like, oh, we can add
you know, her making it tothe top, you know, the top
league and sitting there supporting him andhis daughter sitting there supporting the mom.
That's so cool. So we willknow we have achieved equality when they make
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the house Husbands of LA or thehouse husband husbands Basketball husbands, because there's
there are some like there's husbands nowthat are kind of famous on with the
WNBA, Like Kelsey Plumb. Herhusband is Darryl Hammond or something. He
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played football, I mean in theNFL. But they're getting divorced right now,
and he's like going off the rails. He even made like a music
video like he's wrapping in it.He's like talking crap about her. She's
kind of playing bad right now,but everybody's like giving her break because like
it's like a bad like it's abad breakup. His husband's having his Brittany
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moment. They're like getting divorced.It's like, yeah, it's messy,
but it's funny to just see thew NBA growing now too, because people
make fun of it. They usedto the jokes went from like get back
in the kitchen, are making mea sandwich, But now they're they're saying
other things now, like like becausethey watched them play, now so you
can they realize, oh they can, actually they're good, you know.
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So they say other things, theymake comments about their appearances or something nelse
you know, but because men gota men. Yeah, but it has
switched from those ugly baby progress.Yeah, the discussions are changing a little
bit around women's basketball anyway. Yeah, men need to be strong enough to
support women. Takes a strong,strong man to support women. It's very
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easy for all these weak men tocriticience the w NBA. And I think,
I mean, I got to havemy own opinions about Caitlyn Clerk,
but it always takes that white personto break the barrier. Rap was sort
of underground until Debra Harry came outwith that dumb mainstream rap song and that
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seemed like it was okay. Eminemwas the biggest rapper. Yeah, and
Eminem kind of let it really becomeme get the white parents to like,
we'll buy you this album exactly,so that even says that in his songs
and his songs. Yeah, soI think the same thing. People have
been recognizing there's talent in the wNBA. But now now people are going
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to have to make a space becauseOkay, there's a white girl in there
now, and I mean not thatthere wasn't white girls there before, like
a real high profile white girl andso there now they can't be as critical
maybe as before. And they Istill don't know how to talk about the
WNBA, So they're still trying tolearn how to talk about the because the
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women a lot of them are likeLGBTQ there, a lot of them are
black, Like percent of the playersin the league are black. So like
it's they just have a hard timeon how to discuss these things. They
still, you know, without beingignorant. So it's true you said baby
steps, Yeah, baby steps,there's been white girls. But I also
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think because didn't. Just recently inthe past few years they changed it so
like college players can get money,get money. Yeah, so I think
that's a big change in it too, because it's always it follows money.
Yeah, now there's more, youknow what I mean, Like the ads
are starting in college now you're startingto see more than on TV before they're
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even in the w NBA. Now, yeah, because I don't remember really
what like college basketball players, knowingany of the players and like you see
a commercial yeah with Caitlyn Clark andnow and now it's blowing up. You're
seeing you know, are at work. When the college playoffs were like happening
and stuff, it was everyone's like, hey, could you turn that game
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onto it? And then asking forthe women's games yeah beyond yeah, you
know, and yeah, a lotof Native fans level too. I think
that has another big part to dowith it too. It's like, unfortunately
it's it's about money. It's allabout money. It's catalistic, so less
about like the actual talent and theentertainment of it. And that's why I
think bringing it back to the Loveand basketball, it's like that's an inherently
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native things. Yeah, like wewanted just for the entertainment, you know
how many and we love it.We love it. Yeah, it's fun
to watch. Yeah, those goodteams, Hm, it's real fun to
watch. And same with like youknow, with the with Love and Basketball,
it was more about it's the funof it, the love of the
game. Yeah, especially Monica,because there was nothing back then. Yeah,
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so that wasn't she was. Shedidn't have a dream of getting into
the w n b A. Shejust wanted to play it as long and
she could, and and it justso happened that the w NBA came along.
So yeah, I liked how atthe end though, when they did
the clip of like the w nb A, was that Magic Johnson?
Yeah, yeah, clip of him? And they had real basketball players too,
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those are real Sparks players. LisaLeslie saw that, and then Delicia
Milton was one of the names theycalled, Like, I remember those players
when I was I was like,must have been fourth or fifth grade a
long time ago, because I usedto have a Lisa Leslie poster. I
love how it ended with the wn b A. People are always asking
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that lady to the writer to makea part too, but she's like,
no, like I don't want to. Yeah. Sometimes you just got like
that's a mic drop. I dothink that's a mic drop movie. Why
would you mess it up? BecauseYou're like, you want to know what
happens with Monica, But I'm like, she's successful, right, it's in
the movie. Yeah, it showsyou what happened a professional baller. Now
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you want the next movie to beabout independent tournaments. Yeah, that's the
next stap. Well you heard ithere, guys on the Red Gaze.
This is the beloved love in basketball. Yeah, you can't ask any Native,
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especially the Native girls. Any ballergirls watched it. They're still watching
it. Probably quote the whole thing. How many do you think have that
tattoo the heart with I have one. I forgot. You're not a true
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baller girl. You don't have thetattoo? All right? If you haven't
watched it recently, take another watch, go back and watch. It is
nostalgic. Well, thanks for joiningus, guys on this episode of the
Red Keys. Keep on listening.Who knows what we're going to do next?
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Bye, flutes and feathers, Eaglescross, no more saviors, no
more lies waiting for better days.Will be here with our Red guys.
Hi, oh hey, hey he
War your gi mand again, man, you bud us on our screen,
dyed with paints and wigs and oldend days, everything but all red gaz
hi yo hi hi yoho yore.Hey, everybody, welcome to the Red
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Gaze. So today we are takingon a star quilt movie. It's the
theme of every reservation in America andanybody guests easy three two one, Loving
basketball. This was Marley's identity.Yeah. Hey, so welcome to the
(00:45):
Red Keys. I am your host, Cheryl Carrie, and I am here
with my fellow podcasters Collins Rising Sun, Hey, dylanne Long Feather, Hello,
and extended applause. I forgot tomention this last week, the newly
appointed doctor Marley Finley. Yes,our very own podcaster here just recently completed
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her studies and was officially crowned Doctorof Pharmacy. Yeah, described me for
that right away. That's what everybodywas saying to me after I graduated.
So, yeah, we were takingon this this movie love in Basketball.
It is definitely one that everyone hasseen before. So our first question to
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all of our podcasters is what makesus a star quot movie for you?
By the way, we have Collinshere. He drank a full thing of
hater aid before. We have threeladies here that love this movie, and
so we got to get a haterin here, all right. So what
makes this movie a start move foryou? Definitely the basketball part. You
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know, a lot of Natives,that's like a big it's like part of
our culture. So yes, yeah, basketball. And then couples who basketball.
Yeah, there's always those couples thatbasketball together. Yep. And then
they always show the family in thismovie too, so the family is like
a big part of both of theirfamilies. The guy and the girl are
a big part of the movies.So I think that's why, like a
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lot of Natives go towards this moviebecause it's like, oh, this is
kind of like my life, youknow. Well yeah, because they've known
each other since they were kids,and like a lot of people grew up
on the Reds and grew up justdown the street from this kid, and
yeah, like its had that childhoodrush. Yeah that played basketball, that
played basketball. Yeah, like likeI said, me and like delayed,
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our dads played basketball, so youknow, like we grew up around it,
and we grew up around it.Some people are more athletically inclined.
I think that has fraened my anklebefore even playing a game, coming off
the game to play the game.Coming to the game, sprained my ankle.
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I forgot about that. So whenI was growing up too, there
really wasn't any other sport but basketball. I mean, nowadays it seems like
kids have a little more options withdifferent sports and things like that, but
back in the day, it's youeither played basketball or you played basketball.
But yeah, so yeah, likecross country, yeah yeah, so every
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community has that old wooden basketball hoop, been the dirt court and the you
know where people go shoot around andold worn out basketball. So yeah,
basketball is at the heart of everythingnative I think. Yeah, another question,
then, what what's the scene thatmakes this a start cull movie for
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you? When Monica they're in collegeand like Monica goes over to his dorm
and he's got a nice got anotherwoman there to eat to. His friends
are just like laughing. They allget quiet, and then because they're playing
games and they see and they're like, oh, it's about to see him.
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But that's the scene I was thinkingof too, because I was like,
oh, yeah, we've all beenin those where you know something's gonna
happen between this couple, and you'rejust kind of like, how juicy is
this gonna get? That scene waswhat made it a stark quilt, but
it also tied into like my namemoment because she was like, never mind,
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I'll leave. I'm like no way, no way, threw hands.
She would have beat both of themup exactly. They were actually dating when
they made this movie. Really yeahlike this, I think this is like
the ugliest she looks in a movie, And I think they had to do
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it on purpose, Like she's goodlooking, but like, I don't know,
I think I'm just judging here againstTyra Banks this whole time. Yeah,
I don't think Tyra Banks is prettyat all. No, No,
her five head, Yeah, shegot a five head and she's crazy.
I watched all of those Uh what'sher show called Back in the Day's Next
(05:26):
Top Model. I used to watchthat all the time. Back in the
day. She gave us all badlike thoughts about our bodies when we were
kids too. She's not a goodperson, but she did that to the
contestants on her show too. Like, if you actually watched, I think
you would actually like that show.It's funny. The show Collins, I
think, but like a hater show. Yeah, it is super hater ish,
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it is. She's a big haterTyra. But Sanail is on.
She's beautiful, she's gorgeous. Shejust didn't have any makeup on, Like,
yeah, she just didn't have anymakeup on for this because she's a
tomboy in this movie. You know. I mean, I feel like you
would like that. That's how residgirls dress and look. Yeah, the
basketball shorts shirts for this movie.It just made it worse because everyone liked
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it when they came out, andI was like, I think this movie
is stupid. But it's like oneof those things where you keep hearing small
things about the movie and then youjust like, yeah, I remember because
they're saying so I like, theycan't play basketball in real life. Yeah,
she couldn't. And that was likeone of the first things I was
like, yeah, you can tellshe can't. Does it make this movie
worse? You know? I thoughtthe basketball scenes are actually good in this
movie turned to like movies bad,like teen Wolf. We always like make
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fun and Teine Wolf all the time, or the one that they show with
that girl where she's like I likethat. It was cheesy, but basketball
was okay, But we barely hadany girl basketball movies. That's what we
had was loving basketball and double Team. And everybody came to school after that
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show came on and we're all doingthat move. Maybe I'm mignist, you
are, You are just the hater. This movie was awesome and everyone liked
it did not like it. Andthen Omar Epsomen played together in what's that
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other movie that they were together inthe wood? Oh? Yeah, I
thought they were amazing. They havea good chemistry. Yeah, so what's
a really good movie? Same people. She's wearing makeup in it. That's
misogynist. It's about four it's notfour dudes. Character, What about you,
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Marley? Was there any scene thatjust like made this a res movie?
Probably just like the basketball scene,especially that last the last game.
I feel like a lot of teams, a lot of Native teams always make
it to state, so you know, that's like the big game and everybody's
there and there's a lot of pressure. So that's a big scene that I
think resonates too with a lot ofNatives. Is her state championship game.
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I like the little season. Alot of them are just kind of like
small dialogue things. But when they'rein the car in high school and he's
like, who are you taking tothe dance Spalding? Oh yeah, she's
just like think she's him, andshe's like stupid, that's something a Native
girl would do. She like punchedhim all hard when he said she was
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going to prom with Spalding. She'sall mad and like just blasting. That's
a Native girl. And the factthat when they were younger too, she
was ready to throw down with him, right yeah, rolling around in the
front yard, just beating him up, calling him big head. She beat
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him up at the end too.Go maybe that was the first part calin
scene. Yeah, the basketball courtscene too, is like a Native like,
you know, just playing playing againstall your cousins or your friends at
school, and it gets serious likethat. You know, Oh man,
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I've had some so many stupid games. Get serious like on the low rim,
you know, on the mini hoop, and you get so into it,
like you just start pushing people andwe'll start getting hurt, start trying
to take each other out, likejust playing regular twenty one. I remember
my brother almost dislocates her shoulder inthe game of twenty one. She gets
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mad and goes home. She's like, what do you guys dogs? They're
just roughing her up, like shehad padded on the back of the Oh
yeah, she can barely move.Something that I think a lot of kids
can relate to is like them fighting, like Quincy's Quincy's parents like, oh
yeah, oh no, that's obviouslythat's a normal thing that happens. Because
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they have the scene where he likecomes and knocks on the window and she's
just like, like it's routine,you know. She opens a window and
like throws a blanket down and throwshim a pillow and he just like lays
on the floor, like, butit's obviously something that has been happening for
years. And it's like how manykids listen to their their parents fun,
Yeah, and it's just a normalthing that happens. And well, and
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it was because Quincy's dad was runningaround on his mom and yeah mm hmm
a basket running around. But hewas on the worst team in the NBA,
Like she said, I was likewent for the jugger, just his
dad's team. They did suck andfor a long time though, Yeah,
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people still think they like suck eventhough they've been decent, but they can't
like shake that. You know,the Lakers are the l A team and
the Clippers are. Yeah, theyshould move them, like somewhere else,
like Seattle should get their team.I've been saying that. I've been saying
they should move the Clippers for along time because, like the California is
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big enough to have a bunch ofteams. Sacramento has a team, like
San Francisco, Golden State has ateam. They could just go up north
where they go to San Diego orsomething exactly. They don't have to stay
in Los Angeles. They could justbe a different California team. M Yeah,
I just remember like as a kid, I just wanted to be like
Monica so bad. I really likethe basketball montages. The music in this
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movie, I think a lot likethe ending is like, you know,
kind of cheesy. Yeah, butI think the music that they picked for
a lot of the scenes in thismovie just kind of make you forget that
it's a cheesy two thousands movie.Like yeah, but I really liked all
the scenes of Monica just like ballingout and being like a tough girl out
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there. You know, she's staringdown her opponents and everything and she knows
she's like the best out there.So I remember all of us little girls
that played basketball, we all werelike, we just want to be like
Monica and trying to be like Monicaout there. Like it wasn't really about
the relationship relationship. It was aboutMonica. Yeah, we like really love
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Monica because there's the part where shesays, I'm trying to be a baller.
If anybody should understand that, youshould. Yeah. I was thinking
about that too. Rewatching it theother day, it was like, this
was like a woman's empowerment movie beforethere was all these women empowerment movies now.
And in the end, the happyending is she gets int the w
N B A and then he's likeon the sidelines holding the kid. Yeah,
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which is yeah, that's how mylife is right now. I am
Monica. We did end up beinglike Monica and Joe Joe sitting on the
side of baby Joe going to theturnaments and we should say for the audience.
For those of you who don't know, Marley has bookoo championship jackets in
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her closet. Closet. Yeah,she has her own closet for just her
championship jackets. Recording. I thinkshe's one two Yeah, definitely, yes,
so she is Monica. Yeah,I ended just like Monica. They
think she put this movie out,so yeah, well you didn't have to
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go to Spain. Yeah, ohgod, I thank god. All right,
what about the dance. The danceis cool, the music is good
again the iconic lion. Damn,I didn't dresses snapping her eyes. I
know. I just hated Gabrielle Unionin this movie. They always made her
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Me like, yeah, I likeGabrielle Union because they bring it on.
And then she kept getting typecast aslike the mean side chick, the mean
girl. Yeah, but I likehow her and Quincy were all rinding up
all each other dancing. Monica wasjust sitting there and her date went to
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go get them drinks in here.She really sat down, like she was
on the bench. She relaxed,She relaxed, elbows on her knees and
just chilling. And somebody walked byher and she was like, oh yeah,
those guys were like, oh damn, checking her out. She forgot
she was wearing a dress. Shewas wearing a dress. And we were
kids when this came out, SoI always thought our high school dancers.
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Are they going to be like that? They're gonna be fun like that?
Just I went to red schools inhigh school and then a country Hicks school
and it was not like that atall, so at least fun like that
Natives are too bucky to dance.And then at Mandan they played country.
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So I don't know, man,that phs dances, You guys are like
the inner City of Bismark, innercity schools, the Devil's work. Something
else. Why did they spring danceor something? Public JS Junior Senior banquet.
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But it was basically the same thing. It was exactly some come in,
take pictures behind the backdrop, havea dance, have an after party,
you know what I mean. Likeit was basically the exact same.
There was no difference except I thinkwe listened to a lot of like DC
talk, and there was like theslow songs were like Jesus groups, you
know, like you got well versedin like who was the Christian artist?
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But because that who could be played? I know a few Christian songs just
because I had a teammate that washer family was so sometimes on basketball trips
I'd have to drive with them andI'm like, well, the song's kind
of good. I still listen tosome of those songs, but they like
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really talk about Jesus and stuff,and I'm like, dang, it makes
me want to be like, ohman, I love Jesus. Just getting
me in the spirits. Some ofthose songs indoctrinated on the road trips,
you know what they should be onthe reds. All right, let's talk
about Smudgebom. I would say hermom and her teammates, Sindram she was
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a hater her mom because like shewas. Her mom didn't seem like she
liked her at all. Oh yeah, they just seemed like she's like,
you need to be pretty, youneed to learn girly, Yeah, you
need to do all this, Likeshe didn't accept her at all. Like
it's so weird because I mean,everyone was excited to be a basketball player,
I think, and you know whatI mean, when you're a kid
in Indian like, I think you'remore ashamed if you weren't doing something,
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if you weren't trying, you knowwhat. And the moms are the ones
that are yelling in the stands,you know, for the native moms.
And then you find out in themovie that she didn't even go to her
any of her games. Yeah,she said, she only remembers her being
at too. The lady, thegirl that wrote this movie, said that
character is all This movie is basedoff her life, and the mom is
based off of her mom. Sheplayed basketball in high school and she was
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like a Division one track runner.But yeah, her mom never went to
her games. She said that shewas more hard around her mom at first.
In the movie, she toned itdown a bit and that kind of,
as she said, it helped herheal, you know. But like
doing this movie with her mom,like she realized her mom was supportive to
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her in other ways other than youknow, her mom had no interest in
sports. But yeah, this isthe only way my parents loved me.
Yeah, me too, that's me. So to stay on therapy talk parents
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traumatizing the kids in different ways.So any other smudgebones. Her teammate was
a hater at first, but thenthey became friends. So I liked that
they were just being competitive. Itwas like a mutual respect thing. Yeah
that came after that smuch bomb.Quincy's dad, I know, his dad
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sucked, Oh my god, justmessing around on his mom. And then
like you know, trying to manipulatetrying to manipulate him, and you kind
of I mean, there was asmall bit when he was, you know,
tried to be a good dad andwas telling him not to go in
to the to go pro, butthen he already ruined his relationship with his
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son by so by then Quincy waslike, well, I'm gonna go anyway,
because like some kind of dad youare, I'm not going to be
like you. I'm gonna whatever.But he ends up tearing his ace all
mangled anyway, So put dunk ingarbage time, shoot some three right there.
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I firmly believe in the basketball.And if you're dunking in a blowout
game and you barely get time,don't try to two hands tomahawk? Should
I listen to your dad? Takethe turn over? And now a lot
of players don't do that anymore thesedays because of injuries. They don't play
like that anymore. And that wasin a day when tearing your a cl
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was like the kiss of death.Yeah, it was funny, how dramatic
it seemless. They were like,he tore his a c L. Answer,
he's back in six months now,Yeah, even more in shape because
you get all the injuries, allyour other injuries, get back to normal,
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and you're actually come back better becauseyou guys like I even tore about
a cl eight years ago and itcame back, you know, fine,
But so it's not that big ofa deal. But yeah, that was
just made it seem like it wasjust ended his career while Monica was off
in Spain sitting alone in her apartmentdepressed family matters in Spanish and Spanish.
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I think, like going overseas backthen would a bit and way harder than
it is today because you can't FaceTime. There's no Wi Fi, like there
was nothing, like she had herphone bill. Yeah, you have to
use a long distance phone call.Oh my god. So those women that
bawled out overseas back then, Idon't think the movie really touched them that
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enough, like how groundbreaking that wasat the time. M I thought that
was pretty cool that they Even whenI was a kid, I didn't even
know that that's what women could dountil I watched this movie, and I'm
like, oh, so you cango over there, and like they said,
you could be a star and adifferent country, but you have to
move over there. But I mean, I was like, oh, so
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there is something you can do afterYeah, well they used her going over
to Spain, but they used itas almost like comic relief because she's sitting
in there and here their coaches reallypumping them up cheer into that. She
said, there wrapping her ankles.So she goes over to the one girl
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that speaks English and she said,he said to give the ball to you.
She was like, yeah, sowhat did he say. She wasn't
paying attention that whole time. Time, quick, little point. This has
made me notice a lot of thingsthat women in basketball. But they're like,
oh, she got pregnant, Likethat's like, you know how they
put up injuries. Yeahs, ConnieRandall got pregnant, decided not to come.
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They were done recruiting when they putthat up. Like the w n
b A. Now they put uplike yp players are missing like torn a
cl broken wrist, pregnant, pregnant. They still have to put that for
us motherhood under something. Yeah,it seems nicer. It's not like it's
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a bad thing to be pregnant someof those family So I think though,
like there's been some drama in thew n b A with players getting pregnant
and then them getting like traded toother teams are getting cut. So like
last year, the best team inthe NBA WNA that won the Aces,
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they traded like one of their theirsix girl off the bench. She like
won that award, but she gotpregnant and she worked her butt off to
get back into shape. She cameback in shape, but they faded her.
So they did like a whole investigationon them and stuff, but I
don't know, nothing came of it. But it's hard the way the laws
are set up in different states.So like they it was hard for them
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to like say that she was itwas because of her pregnancy. North Dakota
would have loved that. They wouldjust been like, no, we just
had to have your work. Wecould fight you for anything. We could
states North Dakota, we could doanything to women here. It's still kind
of like toxic in the women's basketballcircles. I guess pregnancy and all that
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well good things. They don't havethat Indian country, because I'll tell you
what, kid after kids, kidafter kid, I've seen some women ball
harder and get in better shape afterI've had teammates I did too play were
like four months pregnant, you know, playing people acting like pregnancy is a
kiss of death, like like theit's not a career ending a Yeah.
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Well then there's I like that theyshowed the overseas because more Native girls are
starting to play overseas now, ohreally. Yeah, there's there's a couple
I know that played overseas, likemy teammate Terray Briggs, she plays overseas
and Lexus Eagle Chasing those are too, my teams. They play overseas,
And there's a lot of men thatgo overseas yeah and play. So when
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I was younger, even when Iwas in college, that was not common.
And I mean that was like fifteenyears ago now you know all ten
agent, Yeah, almost fifteen yearsago. But yeah, like it wasn't
common for Natives to even go tocollege and play basketball. But now we're
playing bass college basketball now and goingoverseas, like we're moving up. Yeah,
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well, just being able to knowhow to access those opportunities where I
think in the past it's always beenlike coaches didn't want to take a chance,
yeah, and you didn't want tobe away from home for that long.
And I think there's more support nowand like you said there's more technology
so people can stay connected, becauseit is hard, I think for people
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to move away and not be aroundthe family and support and things like that,
and it gets lonely. You know. Monica had a hard time.
Yeah too for native kids. That'seven harder when you're used to having all
the social support. And so it'sgetting a little bit easier. And now
people see each other, yeah andyeah, gives them more like, oh,
I can do sense too. Yeah, I can do it too.
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All right, let's talk about thatlast scene, the the play for play
for your Heart, Play for yourHeart, Scene Your Heart. I say,
the only reason why that scene wedon't think it's that cheesy is because
the song that oh yeah, goodsong, Yeah full of me. If
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they didn't play that song that wholethinking about it, it's such a sad
song. The lyrics are sad.Yeah it is. It like gets you
emotionally into it because you're just likemakes you it's the end of the movie
and then you start it makes youthink about the beginning, you know,
like they've been they've been friends sincethey were kids, and they this was
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the whole this is do or die, and it's like she's getting desperate at
the end because he starts making hiscomeback. She was up like three zero
or four zero or something. Yeah. I like how they're like trash talking
each other too, takes his kneebirths out. She was like, you
think that's gonna help. I waslike, not that serious. He's taking
this man. He raced out toplay one on one against the girl he's
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in the NBA, Like, honestly, they're like the top point zeros are
one percent of players in the world. Monica didn't have a chance. And
then she takes off her shirt likethat's gonna help you threw her shirt down,
and I remember as a kid,I'm like, I wanted to look
like Monica. She was like buff, she had her abs. I'm like,
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those are the kind of like that'swhat I always wanted to look like
when I was a kid, Likethat's who you should look like. Is
want to be strong? You know? Yeah? I love that song.
That made a fool of Me songand it makes the ending You're just like
please want to you know, Andlike that end point where she goes to
check it off his chest, hedoesn't even catch it. He's off his
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chest. He's all mad, allintense. Yeah. I was like,
Oh, he's not playing around,not gonna let her wait, He's not
going to let her win. It'sgonna marry this Tyra Banks. Yeah,
I was like, ship, TyraBanks got it in a bag, that
bitch. She's so bad at actingtoo, like just her little scenes.
Her one scene was like hello,as if she wouldn't have noticed her the
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second she walked in the door inthe in the hospital. Yeah, she's
like, oh baby, what areyou doing? What are you doing?
Lay down? I can't stand thatscene. I hate that scene. She's
a bad act she's not a goodactress. No. And then like when
Monica's watching from across the way andshe's like taking his cute, his queue
down. That was one of thethings his cue. Are you kidding?
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Cue? You can't make him takehis cud He's all sad. He looks
so sad too that he couldn't bringhis cue. I was sitting there as
a little girl. I was justlike, how would to let him keep
his cute? Me too? Comeon, we'll figure out a way to
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getting the decor. That was theway to like make her look evil.
That worked on us, little girl. We want to let him keep his
cue. He can do anything thecue. Yeah, Like I said,
the soundtrack was good. Like,I know a lot of people don't like
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this movie now, Like I seea lot of people talk online about it.
Like he doesn't even say I loveyou to her, He doesn't throughout
the whole movie. He ever,that's true, says I love you.
She does say it to him.I've seen quite a few tiktoks where it's
just kind of like, this isactually a problematic movie. Yeah, And
I'm like, and it is becauseI wrote a big, oldlong paragraph here
about part that always made me likeannoyed even when I was younger, was
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it didn't make sense to me thatcue. He's a college athlete too,
he knows what it like take toget to that point. It takes a
lot of hard work, Like youhave no time, you're just literally playing
basketball. And when he gets madat Monica for not staying because she has
curfew they're both on the basketball team. You think you would like understand like
okay, like well we can talkabout this tomorrow on the phone or whatever.
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And then he cheats on her becauseof that, and he's like you
were never there for me, andshe's like, well I had curfew,
and like I'm like, come on, cute, what the work is wrong
with you? Like I was thinkingmaybe it's because he's spoiled, because they
don't show that he's spoiled. He'slike an NBA prospect out of high school
and stuff, so he doesn't havethe same pressures of he's a baby and
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he's a baby, yes, sohe doesn't have the same pressure that Monica
has. You know, she's workingher butt off. Yeah, she's doing
extra work on the side to tryto earn her spot. Yeah, she's
doing all her dribbling drills. Andthat's why I think this movie works though,
because he's the one that's supposed tohave this big care and he's the
one that's supposed to be the starand everyone's supposed to bow down to him
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or whatever, and then it endsup her. So that's why I think
it's a cool movie because it showsthat he can be supportive. He's the
male, but he can be supportive. And there's nothing wrong with that.
He didn't die, even though they'reacting like he had cancer or something.
Yeah, like what it didn't Itdidn't kill him to sit on the bench
with his baby and support his woman, and it's fine, there's nothing wrong
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with that. That's what I likedabout. That's what I really loved about
this movie is that Monica always chosebasketball. But she was always like,
I love basketball, that's her numberone love, and so she's always picking
basketball. Like he's there too.She also wants him, like you said,
be supportive of her journey too,like she wants to play basketball.
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And at the end, he finallytook him to tear his acl but he
had to lose a leg. Yeah, to be support but at least he
got there. I guess what elsedid we say about this movie? I've
not heard criticism That was kind ofone of the biggest things was that she
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had no support. She had nosupport. He didn't He never really told
her that he that he loved her. And yet then she like settles for
this man who she put on apedestal her whole life. Yeah, it's
kind of like she's selfish in away that she just wants everything her way.
Yeah, she somehow still gets it. He does kind of say that
at the end too. He tellsher that you think, but what do
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you guys think of the fact thathe didn't let her win. It's one
on one that competitive like it comesout and he started taking it serious.
So I don't know. I thinkit was just kind of a play on
the from the beginning of the movieto the end of the movie. Like
in the beginning, he knew shewas better, she was better than him.
That's why he put that scar onher face. Yeah, he threw
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and the only way they could stopher was to her. And so at
the end it was just kind ofhim being like showing her like I'm better
than you. Yeah, but Iguess I guess you can, Like you
can have my heart, I guessyou know. Like, I think it
was more realistic that he just likeboulder over and showed if I wanted to,
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I could, you know, Buthe didn't. He didn't have to
let her win, which I thinkto her competitive spirit would have would have
kind of pissed her off. Buthe showed her that but I'm still going
to pick you, which was cool. I thought it made it more romantic.
Yeah, and I kind of madeit realistic at the end where she
stripped the ball from him, likethat's a good way to show that,
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because I feel like you could babystrip an NBA player. You know you're
a girl. Yeah, and theymade it too old. That's your one
chance to get the ball, andthey showed that, and then she made
that little quick shot got the ballback. But I liked her a little
move too. She had a littlein and out. She's like, come
out. And then she missed thelamp. She blew it. She did,
and she knew it too because shewas she was mad and she's like,
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that's it. And then that's whenthey really started getting intense and like
the music was just all sad inthe background, so you guys were just
ring me tell me why. Iwas like, dang it, big tears.
Yeah. And then yeah, that'swhen when because when he turned around,
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he's like double or nothing. Iwas like, this is before we
knew the recipe for like those dramaticromantic movies. We didn't know, you
know, that was before I becamethe film critique that I am. We
know, like, what's going tohappen now in these movies, But at
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that time it was life or death. Yeah, we were still new to
the genre. Okay, what aboutwhere's my cousin? What part in this
movie do you think we could haveput in a native seed. Maybe they
could have had a cousin or somebodythat comes over to the house all the
time, you know, they showher sister a little bit. I liked
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the scenes with her big sister,you know, doting on her hair,
helping her be girly. But maybethey could have had like a cousin or
something come over, another girl thatplayed basketball or something. That would have
been because all the little girls theyalways have a friend that plays basketball with
them, you know, they're ona team. Like where's your friend at
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you know, to go shoot aroundwith or your cousin, you know,
so that would have been fun.I would have liked to see a teammate
on her college team, Yeah,someone who's just really scrappy like her,
really just trying hard to make iton the team, and she could have
threw down with her against that girl. She was just me. I was
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lucky ever had like a older girlon my when I went to college that
was mean like that. That wouldhave sucked. I would have hated my
life if I had somebody older onthe team that was like mean. I
liked how when she was in Spain, that's when she reconnected with Sido.
I think It would have been coolif there was like another like a native
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she had a home over there,yeah, yeah, somebody friendly, not
alone. Yeah, like she hadmade a friend from who's from the US
or something like that, but fromjust some like some native player that's like,
yeah, I know from the Statestoo, or something. That would
have been kind of cool for herto have, you know, like a
little buddy or something that they canboth be asking the teammate what did they
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say, or at the very beginningwhen they were first moving in and she
went to go play or whatever,it would have been kind of cool.
Like how Marley said, like shehad a cousin that came from wherever they
moved from. I don't does itever say where they moved that they had
just moved in and Mom being likeSusie homemaker bringing over like a homemade homemade
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homemade And what I liked about thismovie though, is that they were like
successful, you know, right,because I don't like it when they try
to make like blacks or native peopleof color like we're single parent family,
like everybody grows up like that.And that's where the writer of the story
said, like we all didn't growup like that. You know. Yeah,
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so some of us had families thatworked really hard to get out of
that cycle, and you know,they were able to build those kind of
things for their family. I lovethat too, because so many films always
got to be about the the understrugglesand the struggle and the yeah, and
this was just about the relationships andtheir parents, yep, and their parents
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and themselves and as they grew upand you know, they still had the
struggles, you know, like therelationship struggles even though they didn't have to
worry poverty and all of that.So it was I mean, it was
a solid movie. I've always lovedthis movie. I can rewatch it hundreds
of times and probably have. Ican like this movie, yeah, like
word for word through the whole thing, because I watched it so many times
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when I was younger. Yeah,I can like quote the whole thing where
I was like kind of doing ittoday because I'm like, let's see how
much I can remember. I waslike, oh, I still remember what's
going to come next? And yeahthat this was, like I said,
like one of my favorite movies Ilistened to. I remember downloading all the
music on my little computer. Istill listen to like that I want to
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be your man. I love thatsong when they're dancing looking at each other.
What's the what's the song when theyare intimately Oh yeah, that's a
good one too. That's that's agood song. I'm surprised you didn't bring
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up the scene where Monica's mom likeslaps her in the she's mouthing up.
That's the one she was mouthy.I'm like, I would have been slapped
a long time ago. She wasalways mouthing after her mom, and her
dad never did anything either. Yeah, she really she went there like Monica
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went there where she was just likeironing in his drawers, like something really
loud too. Yeah, Well she'slucky because she had a she had a
rolling pin there. She was rollingsomething. Yeah, and then you finally
get to see her mom's point ofview. It was like I had plans,
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you know, I wanted to dostuff too, but then I got
pregnant, like you girls. Shereally said it like they were just you're
just annoyed because she said that.I noticed that in the beginning of the
movie too. She said that whenQuincy's mom asked if she was a caterer,
and she's like, well, Iwant to you know, yeah,
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maybe when the girls get older,she said, And so it's like she
never did get to do what shewanted to do. So I wondered too
if that was like she was maybejealous of Monica, like doing her own
thing and like trying to getting tolive her dream. She didn't get to,
you know, she probably got knockedright away. Yeah. I think
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that is an interesting scene. Imean the whole dynamic. Yeah, because
it's like Quincy came from these bougieyeah, bougie because of his parents,
but also dysfunctional because their parents didn'tget along and his dad was always gone.
His dad was always gone, alwaystraveling. His mom was probably just
an at home alcoholicly yeah. Yeah, they show her drinking all the time.
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And then you have Monica's family whowas just like her dad is banker.
The banker and their parents are married. It seems likew bully married.
But it's also it's like old schoolschool where the dad works the mom stays
at home. It was just niceto see different different and how it affected
how they grew up and how theyview the world. Because Monica had this
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chip on her shoulder like, ohmy mom didn't support me. And that's
you know, she's so mouthy toher and just rude to her mom,
and I like, and then shefinally sees at the end when her mom
finally like slapped her, like yeah, like sometimes we just gotta knock.
Some kids didn't realize, like,yeah, her mom had to raise them,
yeah, you know, on herown. Her dad was probably always
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busy working. So it's interesting howthe script was flipped because Monica came from
this stable household more or less,and she had to really like scramble and
work really hard and practice and putin the work to get this dream that
she wanted. And on the otherside, Q is given this kind of
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on a silver planter nipple beby opportunitiesand he just he just wasn't into it.
Didn't well hurt himself, yeah,but I mean it could tell like
he really wasn't. There's that scenewhere he's trying to practice to get back
into it. He's just like,do I really want this? I didn't.
I didn't. I don't know ifI really want this. And so
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then he ends up being the supportiveparent, you know, with the kid
at her game. And then sheis in the w NBA and I think
it's cool that that was flipped,you know, because it does show like
they show the guy being like,yeah, the winner at the end,
but they showed the woman, yeahthe winner. Because then Quincy when he
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was younger, had a chip onhis shoulder because of his dad never being
there, you know, and hekind of sided with his mom. You
could see that he was kind oflike a little bit of a mama's boy
or whatever. But then yeah,he ends up becoming the supportive person because
he didn't end up like his dad. And so that was a nice little
thing. You don't really you reallythink about it when you're watching it,
but when you've watched it as manytimes, because you see all the difference,
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you see all the different things,and you can pick out all those
little nuances. And for a movieat that time too, like you know,
like nowadays, the kind of likethere's this rash of all these real
women empowerment movies type two thousand.Yeah, she wrote it, like in
the nineties. She wrote it.Yeah, she wrote the story before there
was a w NBA, So likethey added that little party and at the
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end, Yeah, it was supposedto end with him saying double or nothing,
and that was supposed to be theend of the movie. Yeah,
then the WNBA came around, sothey're like, oh, we can add
you know, her making it tothe top, you know, the top
league and sitting there supporting him andhis daughter sitting there supporting the mom.
That's so cool. So we willknow we have achieved equality when they make
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the house Husbands of LA or thehouse husband husbands Basketball husbands, because there's
there are some like there's husbands nowthat are kind of famous on with the
WNBA, Like Kelsey Plumb. Herhusband is Darryl Hammond or something. He
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played football, I mean in theNFL. But they're getting divorced right now,
and he's like going off the rails. He even made like a music
video like he's wrapping in it.He's like talking crap about her. She's
kind of playing bad right now,but everybody's like giving her break because like
it's like a bad like it's abad breakup. His husband's having his Brittany
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moment. They're like getting divorced.It's like, yeah, it's messy,
but it's funny to just see thew NBA growing now too, because people
make fun of it. They usedto the jokes went from like get back
in the kitchen, are making mea sandwich, But now they're they're saying
other things now, like like becausethey watched them play, now so you
can they realize, oh they can, actually they're good, you know.
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So they say other things, theymake comments about their appearances or something nelse
you know, but because men gota men. Yeah, but it has
switched from those ugly baby progress.Yeah, the discussions are changing a little
bit around women's basketball anyway. Yeah, men need to be strong enough to
support women. Takes a strong,strong man to support women. It's very
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easy for all these weak men tocriticience the w NBA. And I think,
I mean, I got to havemy own opinions about Caitlyn Clerk,
but it always takes that white personto break the barrier. Rap was sort
of underground until Debra Harry came outwith that dumb mainstream rap song and that
(44:45):
seemed like it was okay. Eminemwas the biggest rapper. Yeah, and
Eminem kind of let it really becomeme get the white parents to like,
we'll buy you this album exactly,so that even says that in his songs
and his songs. Yeah, soI think the same thing. People have
been recognizing there's talent in the wNBA. But now now people are going
(45:07):
to have to make a space becauseOkay, there's a white girl in there
now, and I mean not thatthere wasn't white girls there before, like
a real high profile white girl andso there now they can't be as critical
maybe as before. And they Istill don't know how to talk about the
WNBA, So they're still trying tolearn how to talk about the because the
(45:28):
women a lot of them are likeLGBTQ there, a lot of them are
black, Like percent of the playersin the league are black. So like
it's they just have a hard timeon how to discuss these things. They
still, you know, without beingignorant. So it's true you said baby
steps, Yeah, baby steps,there's been white girls. But I also
(45:52):
think because didn't. Just recently inthe past few years they changed it so
like college players can get money,get money. Yeah, so I think
that's a big change in it too, because it's always it follows money.
Yeah, now there's more, youknow what I mean, Like the ads
are starting in college now you're startingto see more than on TV before they're
(46:13):
even in the w NBA. Now, yeah, because I don't remember really
what like college basketball players, knowingany of the players and like you see
a commercial yeah with Caitlyn Clark andnow and now it's blowing up. You're
seeing you know, are at work. When the college playoffs were like happening
and stuff, it was everyone's like, hey, could you turn that game
(46:35):
onto it? And then asking forthe women's games yeah beyond yeah, you
know, and yeah, a lotof Native fans level too. I think
that has another big part to dowith it too. It's like, unfortunately
it's it's about money. It's allabout money. It's catalistic, so less
about like the actual talent and theentertainment of it. And that's why I
think bringing it back to the Loveand basketball, it's like that's an inherently
(47:00):
native things. Yeah, like wewanted just for the entertainment, you know
how many and we love it.We love it. Yeah, it's fun
to watch. Yeah, those goodteams, Hm, it's real fun to
watch. And same with like youknow, with the with Love and Basketball,
it was more about it's the funof it, the love of the
game. Yeah, especially Monica,because there was nothing back then. Yeah,
(47:22):
so that wasn't she was. Shedidn't have a dream of getting into
the w n b A. Shejust wanted to play it as long and
she could, and and it justso happened that the w NBA came along.
So yeah, I liked how atthe end though, when they did
the clip of like the w nb A, was that Magic Johnson?
Yeah, yeah, clip of him? And they had real basketball players too,
(47:44):
those are real Sparks players. LisaLeslie saw that, and then Delicia
Milton was one of the names theycalled, Like, I remember those players
when I was I was like,must have been fourth or fifth grade a
long time ago, because I usedto have a Lisa Leslie poster. I
love how it ended with the wn b A. People are always asking
(48:05):
that lady to the writer to makea part too, but she's like,
no, like I don't want to. Yeah. Sometimes you just got like
that's a mic drop. I dothink that's a mic drop movie. Why
would you mess it up? BecauseYou're like, you want to know what
happens with Monica, But I'm like, she's successful, right, it's in
the movie. Yeah, it showsyou what happened a professional baller. Now
(48:30):
you want the next movie to beabout independent tournaments. Yeah, that's the
next stap. Well you heard ithere, guys on the Red Gaze.
This is the beloved love in basketball. Yeah, you can't ask any Native,
(48:50):
especially the Native girls. Any ballergirls watched it. They're still watching
it. Probably quote the whole thing. How many do you think have that
tattoo the heart with I have one. I forgot. You're not a true
(49:17):
baller girl. You don't have thetattoo? All right? If you haven't
watched it recently, take another watch, go back and watch. It is
nostalgic. Well, thanks for joiningus, guys on this episode of the
Red Keys. Keep on listening.Who knows what we're going to do next?
(49:37):
Bye, flutes and feathers, Eaglescross, no more saviors, no
more lies waiting for better days.Will be here with our Red guys.
Hi, oh hey, hey he
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