June 19, 2025 • 44 mins
In this episode of the Reluctant Medium Podcast, host Dr. Maria speaks with guest Ashley George about the presence and influence of angels in our lives. The discussion explores the concept of spiritual gifts, personal and archangels, and their role in healing, empowerment, and guidance. Ashley shares her personal journey of spiritual awakening and deep connection with angelic beings, including practical insights on how to start connecting with your own spiritual team. They also touch upon the resonant energies of figures like Jesus and Mother Mary, and the intersections between spirituality and science. Tune in for an enlightening conversation that explores deep inner truths and the transformative power of angelic guidance.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I believe we all have spiritual gifts because that's who
we are. That's who we are before we come here,
reed who we are after we leave. Of course, that
makes sense. We have spiritual gifts and they look different
in their beautiful and different ways for everybody, right, and
so being open to that part of you can truly
change and transform your life in so many ways.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Welcome to the Reluctant Medium, where we cover the gamut
of out there conversations with an open mind and a
curious heart. We want to talk about it all, from
psychic phenomenon energy medicine, to beings from other star systems
and out of body experiences. You'll find a great balance
between grounded, science backed topics and others that science hasn't
(00:42):
quite caught up to yet. I'm your host, doctor Maria Rothenberger,
a psychotherapist by trade and a reluctant spirit baby communicator.
And Hey, even though I'm a medium, I'm not buying
everything folks are selling. I just have a voracious appetite
to know more about what I call the world of
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(01:18):
Hey everybody, welcome back to the Reluctant Medium Podcast. I'm
doctor Maria Rothenberger, your host for the podcast, and I'm
stoked today because this is a topic that comes up
in readings for me that I'm like, no freaking clue
what I'm talking about. I'm just gonna relay what's coming through.
We're talking about angels today with Ashley George. Ashley, welcome
to the.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
So much for having me on. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Stoked to be just like pulling from your wisdom today
for sure. So I'm so clueless when it comes to this.
I'm just like, I don't know. Michael's here and he's
saying this, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Oh ye virtually talent yourself. So what do you think, oh,
thank you? What do you think that disconnect of the
angel energy?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I don't know if I feel you know, there's two
things maybe going on for me. One, I kind of
like the not knowing because when people like you come
on and are like, oh x y Z happens, I'll
be like, oh my gosh, validation okay, good, okay good.
But the other thing is there is so that it's vast,
(02:27):
this spiritual world, right, It's fast. There's so many things
that I'd like to learn about. I just talked to
somebody about the Kashik Realm. I'm like, I want to
know more. But yeah, it's just there's so much to know,
and so one thing at a time. Actually, yeah, at
a time.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I completely agree. There is a lot. There's a lot, yes,
so much.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, And tell us about you. How did you get
into the work that you do, and specifically angel work.
I'd love to know your history, how'd you grow up
and all that.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yes, so well, Actually it's kind of a long story,
but I had a spiritual awakening probably about I guess
it's been about four twenty twenty two, so like three
or four years, four years ago, and I am a
mom to three, busy mom three you know, at baseball
games and living a very quote unquote normal motherhood's life.
(03:23):
So insert angels coming in. I did not expect that
at all.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
This was after your already mom died.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yes, I have been very sensitive my whole entire life
since his child you know, childhood. I would just know things.
I would understand things. My husband would always be like, oh,
you're getting one of your feelings right, But I had
no context of what I was doing, why I was
feeling energy, or why I would I didn't even notice,
(03:54):
Like that's I didn't even know those words to put
in to validate what was going on with me my
whole life, you know, and being sensitive can be kind
of annoying to people right at different times, like oh no,
you're being too sensitive about this, or you're inner knowing
is wrong, you know, like somebody. A lot of times
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throughout my life, I would internalize that as like, Okay,
something's wrong with me, Like am I too? I care
too much? I guess about people or things or the collective,
and so I would try to disconnect from that. After
becoming a mom. I'm a mom to three kids and
eleven years ago, she's almost eleven, my oldest I got
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right after she was born. I got deep into wellness.
I just felt a huge push to pay attention to
all of that kind of stuff like eating certain foods,
you know, or get it, like, really went down all
of these rabbit holes. And I started a lifestyle blog
helping other moms and women try to inspire them about,
(04:57):
you know, just feeling good through motherhood and how I
feel like all of that's connected moving our bodies, you know,
eating great foods to feel us and just feeling good
and being a mom like it's hard, and that was
all great until all of a sudden it wasn't for me.
And I was like, I'm doing all the things that
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the outside noise is telling me to do. I'm working now,
I'm eating healthy, I'm going to you know, I'm getting
blood work, doun. I was doing everything that I possibly
could do to be healthy. Why wasn't I feeling healthy?
And that ultimately led me to a very different path
and led me to going to experience an energy healer
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for the very first time. I knew nothing about it.
I grew up Christian my whole life, and that was
you know, you can't do that, right. They would say
that's bad, that's wrong, you can't go do an energy healer.
So I didn't tell anyone. I didn't even ask anyone.
I'm just like, I'm going yes. And in that very
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first energy healing session, my life completely changed. It will
never be the same. It was like I blew wide open,
and you know, I also, like I was saying earlier,
I didn't know a lot of the spiritual context of
what I was going through. After that you know, session
and things were happening, and I was sensing things and
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it might you know, it's just like I my senses
just were on overload and heightened and like I had
said earlier or even more sensitive person, yes, so like
now it's like, oh my gosh, And I'm so grateful
for that healer. She helped me, she answered all my questions.
It brought me down a rabbit hole. I couldn't read
enough books, I couldn't listen to enough podcasts. I was
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reaching out and finding mentors, and it ultimately led me
to understanding so much about myself. So many things made sense.
And even like I'm telling me, like I grew up Christian,
like I finally feel like I found truth because I
could never understand through well my growing up nothing. I
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didn't have anything bad or no religious trauma, but I
always felt close to Jesus and I couldn't understand where
I was feeling disconnect, Like I'm like, are they doing
it wrong? Or am I doing this wrong? Because I
feel like Jesus is so beautiful and so loving and
so healing, and he is not judgmental or shameful or
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like wants you to feel bad about yourself and so
I always I tried so many churches, so many throughout
my life, and when after having kids and with my
husband and we were just I was like, I want
to have faith. It's important to me my life. But
where why can't we find something that works for us?
Or why can't I feel truth? And now I understand
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like through all of this, I felt like God was
leading me down all of these pasts I had to
experience that I had to experience burnout and not feeling
great because it ultimately led me to my own inner
truth and going, oh my gosh, yeah, this is the
church is within us. All of this is inside of us.
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And that's really when the angels start just coming coming
in there around other people. It was like I couldn't
keep all of it inside anymore. Even though I thought
I was going to I'm gonna be honest, I was like,
there's no way I'm telling everybody. I can sense angels
around people or hear them, I'm writing with them. I'm like,
(08:40):
I will just keep this my little secret. But bir
old the look. I could know this, but it just
felt overpowering at times, like I knew this person was
showing up on my path out of nowhere for a reason,
and there were so many coincidences things that were just
flowing into my life magically, and it has been a
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beautiful and wild ride since all of that and the awakening.
But I'm so forever grateful. Truth.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
It's amazing. What a great story. I love it. It's
interesting we share a similar story around having grown up
in one way and being told another way is bad
or wrong or evil or whatever. And it's so interesting
that I connected with Jesus for the first time outside
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of the church, outside of the church, and it was like,
Oh my gosh, you're real. Whoa, You're real, You're amazing,
You're wonderful. Oh my gosh, this is incredible.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And so yeah, and you've integrated it the churches within,
the churches within. That's just so so lovely. I can't
wait to dive into this even more. Angels specifically, but
certainly that there is And you're fortunate that you didn't
have to experience religious trauma. But for folks who have
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and folks who have not, what hope on the other
side that you know they can connect in this way
and feel as healthy and well as you do.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
So great.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, and you have a podcast where you like spread
this out and reading you get reading.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I tried to absolutely, I love about this stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yes, your whole I'm going to keep this to myself.
Here's a podcast, so everybody knows.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
And the funny thing about that is I had a
podcast before the spiritual awakening, and I had with all
wellness stuff like motherhood wellness stuff. I had a blog,
I had a platform, and then I got to a point,
you know, where I really was like, I can't show
up on my platform anymore unless I mesh my content
(10:47):
completely and show up authentically what I really want to
talk about. And yes, I was so scared for anybody listening,
Like I was so terrified, Yeah you talk about these things,
because I was like, people are gonna judge me or
think I'm strange or they only know me is this way.
And I just kept praying about it and trusting it,
and it was just the more you're authentic, I really
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believe this, the right people show up. You know, a
lot of people are interested in talking about this, whether
you think they're going maybe or they're not that most
people are very interested in Most people have these spiritual
experiences themselves and having these conversations is validating to them
on many levels. So they didn't even know they needed.
(11:33):
They're like, no, I have felt like that before, or
this has happened to me before. Yes, So I think
having conversations like even just me and you is so
beautiful for everybody because we can all have some sort
of resonation or validation that we our heart didn't even
know we needed.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah. And similar to what you were saying about, well,
I'm doing all the things things, why don't I feel well,
folks are tired of doing all of the things. There's
got to be something else.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, And you know, I believe we all have spiritual
gifts because that's who we are. That's who we are
before we come here, reed who we are after we leave.
Of course that makes sense. We have spiritual gifts and
they look different in they're beautiful and different ways for everybody, right,
And so being open to that part of you can
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truly change and transform your life in so many ways
in like we're saying, in just simple ways of being
a mom too, like every day and it changed my
perspective of watching children as well, like a lot, and
like so amazing. They I was like, they're all old souls.
I have all old soul children. They're you know, just
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you know, all of them different, being able to be
like teaching them about their own spirituality and Jesus juels,
but like within them and they don't have to fear
this part of them. It's just it's beautiful. So I'm encouraging.
And I'm sure all your listeners are very open and
they're all very spiritual themselves, but I just encourage you
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to truly be your authentic self.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yes, no matter what that looks like. Yeah, you were
far braver than I was.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I was.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I had a podcast too before this one, and it
was all it was all fertility related, and I was
like very sciity and like mental health and you know,
evidence based this and that, and I would add in
sprinkles of like quantum physics, and then it was like, well, shit,
I think I need to I think I need to
really add into things. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I love talking about quantum physics too, because, oh god,
so interesting. I would love your opinion on this, but like,
like where we all like what we're talking about spirituality, angels,
don't you feel like quantum physics is like in the
next even in five to ten years, will be able to.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Very soon, Yes, very soon. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I've been saying this for the last truth.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
That's right, That's right, Ye's I like to say that
science and spirit are on the same continuum and they're
finally getting closer.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So I'm so stoked for It's very exciting, very exciting.
So yeah, okay, Dan, Actually we could talk for everyone ever,
I think can we?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Can?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
We dive into angels. I'm curious when you said something about,
you know, seeing your kids in a certain way, or
even folks without kids, right, because I'm sensitive to that.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Folks without children, they have.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Their animals or whatever other meaningful folks or beings in
their lives. I'm curious about the every day for you.
What are like everyday angels like for you? And how
does that? Do you literally see them with your eyeballs?
Are they in your mind's eye?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I'm just curious how does that work for you mine's eye.
I'm definitely more of an audible, like I hear it
and I feel it a lot more so, I get
a lot, especially when i'm writing, like just so much
comes out of me, and I will see them in
my mind's eye, and like I feel like I call
it like the eye of the heart, but it's really
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for me. It's more of like just this incredibly innernoying
of hearing words that I'm meant to share with other people.
And that's another thing about spiritual gifts and especially angels,
And when you're hearing these beautiful messages like and love
and healing and truthful messages as well, it's like if
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I kept that in and never shared that with anyone else,
Like my I feel like all of our gifts, Yes,
of course they're for me and myself as well, but
they are so much for other people as well. And
you know, kind of closing that part off or being
scared of it or being scared of what other people think,
is doing a disservice to the love and the truth
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in that high frequency healing that you can give to
so many other people. And you don't even have to say,
like I'm giving you this angel message. You could just
maybe have a knowing where it's a friend who needs
to hear something, or you see somebody who needs help
at a grocery store, or you have a grandparent or
whatever it may be, or a child. You just have
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this deep inner knowing where you're like, I need to
say this to you right now.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Ah, that's angel inspired you're saying.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
So I love talking about this. So I believe we
all have guardian angels. We all have our own teams, right,
so we have our spirit guides, our guardian angels that
we are all here with from beginning to end. And
then there's arch angels that are here to assist all
of humanity if you feel like you want to connect
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to them or learn about them. And my favorite word
to use with arch angels is empowerment. I feel like
they are incredibly empowering and empowering to you in a
way that helps you remember your own truth. Like they're
not going to share anything that you don't already know,
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but it's helping you remember what your soul and your
heart need to hear at that very given moment. They're
so beautiful, they're heling, they're so powerful that it can
bring me to tears at times because if such a
love and high frequency.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yes, yeah, yeah, that's the sense that I've gotten. It's
really interesting. I am so curious about your thoughts on
this because when I've come across angels in readings and
I don't know what I'm doing. All I can do
is tune into what I'm I'm clairvoyance. I see when
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I see folks, I suppose they would be one's guardian angels.
As you were saying, they feel very personal to the person.
What I see is like color and I can feel
a vibration. They just feel so pure, like there's no
there's not a whole lot of personality to them. They
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just feel pure.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yes, oh for sure. That's such a great way to
explain it. And for people with kind of learning their
different energies or their gifts, I always think that, like
when I'm connecting to a spirit, it is there is
a lot of personality, like there is a lot. It
feels different, And when you're connecting with an angel or
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specifically an archangel, it's so the only way I can
explain it is so powerful and so loving, and it's
like you just want to give love to whoever you're
talking about or with, or you're writing things down. It's
like this incredible love that you want to share with somebody,
but empowering and truthful, like it's not like they're not
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going to tell you the truth. It's nothing bad. It's
just an overwhelming like you can do this, like your
soul came to do this, Like you are loved, you
are so worthy, like you've got this, you know, like
that kind of an energy and a spirit. I feel like,
of course they could be so loving, but they're also
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like they want to get their messages through that they're
trying to share with.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, there's a personality attached.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah. I would say that angels, especially arch angels, are
very healing. Yeah to the art, and I feel like
it can really really heal people, and spirits absolutely can
be healing. People need to hear those messages sometimes, like
very much. Lefe giving a different energy though, Yeah, like
what you're explaining, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I can feel it in my body too. They just
their resonance is so high. It's their frequency is so
high and pure and even like their response to a
perceived human mistake is just it's the exact same as
a perceived human accomplishment.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
They're just like, really well, because they know what you're
capable of. They're like, hey, you know what you got
off this path. It's okay because we're gonna help you
remind you you can get right back on because that
is what you are here to do. And we're gonna
help you, and so it's just like this beautiful almost
like a mentorship or friendship. You can think of them
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as like mentor like spiritual mentors, because they are just
truly gonna be like we're going to get you on
the right path. They want nothing more to help you.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
That's what it feels like to me. And it just
feels like they are so non judgmental and like almost
a little bit like, yeah, I help you screw up
more because that's how you learn, Like it's okay, well
yet yeah, okay, yeah, it's all good.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, definitely there They know that we're here to learn
lessons and have to go through the hard times, the
ups and downs at different times in our life. Some
things are not fair, right what people have to go through,
but they will never lead, like they will always continue
to send you love and empowerment and just helping you
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remind you of like how worthy you really are in
this lifetime. Because I feel like we forget there's life
can throw so much at us as humans, right, like
so much, and some people have walked through very very
very traumatizing in darkness and that disconnect, we feel like
we're by ourselves right through all of this, And I
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feel like the angels are just like if you invite
them in and you feel connected to them, you know
they are just here to truly be like you can
get through anything, You can turn your light on broader
than ever before, because there's so much love within you.
We just forget it and the world disconnects us from
it too, so much thrown at us.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, I wonder if sometimes that's on purpose, but then
to reconnect to the to the angel realm or other
other beings that we resonate with. But the angels are
so accessible them. Yeah, I've had them say to people
before like we're here, We're just waiting for a job. Man, Like.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I feel like you definitely have angels around you are
I feel like arch Angel Raphael, like he's the healer angel,
so I feel like, I don't know if you do
a lot of healing or yeah, okay, I was like,
he's here, he works with you with healing. And then
I also feel Archangel Ariel, which she's animal, she does
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a lot of holes, but I also feel her around
and I think we talked earlier about like baby baby
spirits yeah and spirit baby. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yeah, I'm a spirit baby person.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I feel Mother Mary around you too.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Oh okay, she's my favorite.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I was like, love married, like I actually help her
with the children.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
She's yeah, she shows up with Okay, now she's an entity.
Now so many questions. She has an entity that she
can bring me to tears instantly. Her love is so rich.
I can't even describe how my heart is just yeah
I can, I just instantly.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I'm the tear ups right now.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yes, she is just she has been so supportive of
me through some really rough times. And I'm not a
religious person. I never grew up Catholic. I never I'm not.
That's not me. But yeah, she is, and I'm like, okay,
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Would you consider her an angel though, or is she different?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I definitely feel like so like Jesus, like Jesus and
Mother Mary. I do feel them with the angels a
lot of the time. Okay, I do feel like you know,
I know a lot of spiritual people call like this
sended masters, that kind of stuff. But I do feel
like they're in the angel realm, like that high frequency,
very high different feeling. Then, like we were talking about
(25:02):
connecting with maybe a spirit or a past loved one. Yeah,
they are. I mean, like you said, I can instantly
come to tears mother and Mary comes a lot with me.
Actually wrote about her in my book just I see
her around when I see her or feel her around
certain moms or women just women in general. Yeah, I
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usually know that they one either have a gift of
working with children or helping children, or two they need
to be mothered themselves and they're going through the most
hard time, yes or both. And I feel her around
a lot of amazing women, and it's it's beautiful how
much she's healthy. She helps children a lot too.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
She sure does. Oh my gosh, everything that you're saying,
this is what I mean by like, I don't know
a lot. And this is why, because somebody who does
know some stuff will come and say things and I'll
be like, oh my god, yes, that's exactly what I experienced.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
That's really right. When you were telling me about the
spirit babies, I was like, Mother Mary's yep, very much
part of your team. She is a facilitate a lot
of your I don't know if you give messages about
spirit babies or you. Yeah, she helps bring that. Yeah,
a lot she does.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
She's and she's come through for specific people that I've
done readings for and in specific circumstances. And I just
every time she pops in, I'm like, great, mother Mary,
I'm gonna start crying now. And it's.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
You and you see a person as well that we're
we both can feel.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
There's usually a resonance.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, there's a beautiful energy. And I always I share
a lot about this in my book too, But as
you know, I know some people are like, well, I'm not.
I don't feel connected to Mother Mary or Jesus because
I didn't grow up Christian or Catholic, and I personally
believe that they never wanted to start a religion. They
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were so incredibly spiritual. I feel like what Jesus was
trying to show was what was possible in human form,
and what he was saying was, hey, what I shall do,
You guys shall do better like follow me, not worship me.
Follow me because I want to teach you what is
possible while living on earth. And I feel like Mother
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Mary was his mom. Of course she was spiritual.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, yeah, you've.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Probably led him to grow up and give space to
him in a way that was like I have his
very spiritual son, and I am very spiritual myself. And
I just feel like, no matter what if you're religious
or you're not religious, or you're spiritual not, they are beautiful,
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beautiful frequency energies and love to work with they are.
And I don't feel like me would be you know,
religious to connect with them like they understand they know
every way we have been hot here on earth. They
are not judging you, they are not mad at you.
They're like, we are if you want to connect with
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us and we will help you.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
They are yes, yes, yes, yes, all all of that.
I have a question for you. This is kind of fun.
When I connect with Mother Mary, she is I like
to describe her as this, exactly this. It does not
matter if you are Adolf Hitler. Come in, come in.
I've got a hug for you.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Jesus's energy. When I first met him, I was like, oh,
you don't you don't want to cross this person. He's
he's like loving and compassionate, but it's like a fierce
like let's go do the things.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yes, like a little bit more like let's get this done.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Let's go, let's go into the world.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I feel like, you know, yeah, I can feel it.
I feel there a lot of stuff like how do
I I almost feel like him in our changel Michael's
energy can feel similar at times.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Oh, yes, you're right.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
True masculine energy that is very needed in the world
today is what I say is and our Changel Michael
says this to me that the true masculine energy is
that mind and heart connection.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yes, I'm just the.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Most powerful leader of a masculine because you can still
lead as a man, but have that heart connected to
your mind, her our change. Michael talk is very very
big on helping this with the collective right now. But
I feel that with Jesus too, Like he's very Jesus
in his heart, Like he is like I'm listening to you,
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I love you, I'm encouraging you.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
And I'm going to tell you the truth.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
He was very yeah, very mythical. He's like, now let's
talk about things and alchemy and a cellular level.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I feel like he understood all that. Oh absolutely, he
was like, God, this is what's happening. You know.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, with the language of the time and the belief
systems of the time.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Very much.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
But yeah, but and like I go back to what
I said before, I did not I was like shocked,
Jesus is real. It's real because I've not I grew
up Christian.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
But I'm like, yeah, now, I think so many people
like can relate to that story. Even me, Like I
grew up Christian, I felt Jesus even as a little girl.
I could still remember very much feeling. But I always
felt like he was a best friend. So that's where
I would get confused when other people were like using
him to weaponize whatever it was YES doing. I was like,
(30:45):
it's a struggle it really. I was like, I don't
that feels so disconnected to what I feel. But then
I would be like, maybe I'm doing this wrong, like
something's wrong with me. Not that in the moment of
doubt that I felt Jesus in the truth and after
(31:05):
my awakening, it was like I cried and cried and cried,
and I was like, my god, this is what I
have been looking and new since I was little. But
I just had no words, like I had nothing to
paint this picture. But it's like it's it was just
like everything in my body knew, Oh my god, this
(31:27):
is true. Yes, yeah, you know, and you're a sign.
You have the science background, like I can't prove it.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah, but it was like, this is true even with
the science background. Unfortunately we can't prove it you It's yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I think it's kind of great that christ consciousness energy
is very much tapped in for the collective. If people
feel called to connect with that energy is beautiful. One.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
If people just want to stay with like their own team,
their own angels, how do they how do you encourage
people or what skills do you give to people to
be able to do that?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Well? One, I know it sounds silly, but I just
talking to them, like you can even do it in
your mind, or you can write with them, or you
can say it out loud in the car, whatever it.
You know, whatever you feel like naturally you want to
do or how you want to connect with them. And
if it's new to you, I feel like, yes, it
might so silly to be doing that, but the more
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and more you do it, you build this connection. I
feel like with your own heart, your own team, you
can start asking for signs. They love to send you signs,
be specific like say hey, I want to see this.
They love to send you stuff. They want you to
feel connected with them. I always think they're like waving
their hands like we have been wanting you to connect
(32:52):
with us, like your whole life, thank you for finally
paying attention. You can you know, you can pray with them,
you can ask for things. I mean, I don't feel
like there's any right way to do it or wrong
way to do it. Maybe not everybody believes that, but
I really believe that they want the connection with you,
(33:13):
and so how that can look different for everybody? Right,
you can meditate with them, you can pray with them,
you can write with them, you can just talk in
your car with them. Of that no judgment at all,
And so I don't you know, you could take one
hundred classes to try to connect with them. But I
honestly do not feel like there's a right or wrong way.
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Like you have so much love inside of you and
they want to connect with you, just start talking to them.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, what do you say to people? This is the
number one question that I get. How do I know
I'm not making this up?
Speaker 1 (33:47):
That was me too, So I completely understand. I'm like,
this is it. I've lost my mind. I've literally lost
my mind. I think for me personally, I like what
we're talking about, Like there's this feeling and this love
energy that can bring us to tears. There's there you
(34:08):
cannot there's nothing that it can explain that feeling. Right,
and when you start trusting yourself and stop listening so
much to the outside noise like you have to do
it this way or don't do this, or this is wrong,
You've got to do this, go through this related you know,
whatever your route to God is when you stop kind
of the outside noise and you just come back to
(34:29):
your own heart and start trusting yourself and you know,
like anything else, like the more we use that muscle,
the more that we can trust it, and it opens
up more. And there's things that I promise you, there's
things that you can't you won't. It will be so
wild that you won't even be able to not believe it,
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you know.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
That's the miracle thing.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
It's right, miracle for sure, Like miracles are a miracle frequency,
Like it is absolutely true. You just have to I
feel like you just have to trust yourself and quiet
the noise and really really just be able and be
open to love.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, yeah, and call it what it is, right, Like
when something miraculous happens, you can try calling it a coincidence.
But when a miracle happens and then miracle number two happens,
and then miracle number three happens, Okay, we got a.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Pattern here, Yes, absolutely, And I feel like paying attention
to like the little things like hey, why am I
thinking about that person all of a sudden?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Or why am I like remembering this memory out of nowhere?
Or why am I thinking of this TV show? Or like,
all those little things can also be your angels talking
to you to be like, hey, this person actually needs attention.
Just reach out, tell them, hey, I'm thinking of you everything. Okay,
check in just had a message. I always feel like
(36:01):
I'm like those could that is one hundred percent your
angels trying to be like, hey, pay attention to these things.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yes, oh I'm it's so great. I just had a
reading the other day where someone was talking about you know,
we were talking about their their spirit baby and their angels,
and she's like, I had this this idea come to me.
And I'm like, you think it was.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Your idea, that's probably a far style, but angel, your
spirit god, and they're all like, hey, okay, we this
is your We got to just send it in now,
because yes, you are ready to either receive this creativity
or project or pivot in career, or change in life,
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or change the relationship.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Like all of those things. Your team is trying to
help you kind of just get in the flow, right.
I call it like the flow the entergy. The flow
of life doesn't have to be so hard, like when
we try to control everything, but when we open up
and surrender, let that go and just trust the flow
of your heart. It's wild.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
It's amazing what happens. It really is just yesterday. Why,
I'm pretty sure my angel is going Maria, you need
to meditate again. And you do, you develop a relationship
with them that's like very like colloquial. So I was like,
freakin' ay, really you're telling me this again?
Speaker 1 (37:29):
All right? Fine?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, it really is like that. You develop this friendship absolutely.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
And they want nothing more than that. Like, and I
think some people think, and I know too, like growing up,
even just Christian, sometimes I'd be like, is this like
can I not pray about this little thing? Like is
that bad or wrong to not? You know, it has
to be something like we really need God's help for this.
(37:57):
But your team, big or small, wants you to connect
with them. The littlest things they are here to help you.
The biggest things, they are here to help you. So thrusting.
That is truly, it's like life changing for you. It is.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
It is even then the littlest I think starting with
the littlest ways is really great. But I have a
friend that she's like, you know, I just know when
I'm in the car with you that I'm going to
find a parking spot real quick. I'm like, eyep, because.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Lot or like when your kids lose things or I
lose things. I know for ye myself doesn't have to
be kids, but I'll say, can you just help me?
Put me in the directionn't wear this news show? Or
I teach my kids a lot about the angels, and
like even like my son before he plays baseball, I
have them calling the angels and you know, have him
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use that power and strength with him on the field. Yes,
And so I feel like there's so many ways we
can utilize our angels on the day to day that
is truly transformational on so many levels for your life.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, and they want to.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
They definitely want to. I'm telling you they're waving their
hands or red flout. They're excited, they're beautiful energy. They
just want to bring love to your life. And they
want to help you. They want to encourage you, they
want to empower you, and they want to help you
heal too. Yes, you know I didn't work spiritual. You
have to. You know, healing is work. It's not just
(39:26):
Oh I had a spiritual awakening and I'm done. No,
life is perfect now human, and there are moments where
I'm not a great human, you know, like yep, I
get down on myself or I'm mad or whatever it is.
But that's the part of being a human. We get
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to feel feelings, Like that's part of the Earth experience,
Like we came to have all of those feelings like good, bad, bad, happy, surprised,
like love, hate, whatever it is. But like it is
a part of being human, sure is.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
And there is no judgment from the other side even
a little bit. Yeah, I have a final question for you. Actually,
I think I saw a podcast episode that you did
the difference between angels and spirit guides. Can you just
briefly talk about that. I was so curious about that
when I saw that.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Yes, so kind of like what we were talking about earlier.
I think spirit guides are people who signed up with
you for this life, you know, lifetime that are here.
I think they also have walked human lives and they
have their older souls and they're on the other side.
That's their job. They wanted to come in and be
(40:40):
a spirit guide for you in this lifetime. And I
think you chose them too, and they chose you, like
I don't think you know you had no collaboration. Yes,
And I feel like spirit guides are like what we
were talking to there, there's a little more personality. They're
going to help you maybe with more like yeah, okay,
you know your stuff or purpose or this or whatever
(41:02):
it may be. And angels and your guardian angels are
going to help one with more healing, protection, love, empowerment.
They want to help you remember who you really are.
And so I feel like their job A lot of
times too. They say arch angels never had human lives,
some of them. There's conflicting information about that, but that
(41:24):
there's such a high frequency that they they're just like
God's messengers. That's their percose in creation. So okay, okay,
I feel like there's a lot of jobs on the
other side there.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
I know a lot of jobs on the other side.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
I don't think we just get to you know. I
feel like your soul is filled back with so much
love when you transition that you just want to help
everybody who is in whatever way that is it happened.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
So yeah, So when people say that a loved one
has crossed over and now there's another angel in heaven,
maybe not technically because angels haven't been accarnated before. But
there's another like guardian of sorts, like they do have jobs,
Yes I do.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
I'm conflicted sometimes I'm like, are there like earth angels
because I you feel sometimes like so much of a
high frequency or maybe it's like very much an old
soul that came in and I'm like, yeah, we're from
the angel realm that are that are heelers so much?
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Yeah, I wonder that too. I mean, I I connect
with spirit babies who are really really high vibration, and
I wonder about them being Yeah, they resonate very strongly
with angels. They don't call themselves angels, but they have
that similar resonance where there's totally pure love. Yes, so
(42:53):
I'm curious about that too. Another another podcast topic there.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Actually, angels are probably with a lot of the spirit.
They're probably all very connected in the same realm on
the other side.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah, I'm I don't know. I'm all I'm just open
and learning. But this is this is great if you've
helped me sort of add to that learning basket. So
thank you, which actually I appreciate it absolutely, Thanks so
much for being here and sharing your knowledge and wisdom.
I can't wait for folks to learn along with you.
And best place to find.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
You, I would say the best place, easiest place is Instagram,
Ashley J.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
George.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
You can shoot me a DM. You can find my
website there. You can find my book there. I talk
all about my own spiritual awakening, and then I also
talk all about the angels, and the last five chapters
are actually channeled from five archangels. And then you can
you can I give questions that you can start connecting
with the arch angels yourself, and so if you feel
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connected or you want to learn more about angels, that
is a great place to start as well.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Thanks so much. We're gonna, of course link everything up
in the show notes too, so everyone look at that
and connect with Ashley. Thanks again so much for being.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Thank you. I love being, I love talking about this stuff.
We could talk and talk and talk. So you're on
my show as well, so thank you for having me.
Thank you,
I believe we all have spiritual gifts because that's who
we are. That's who we are before we come here,
reed who we are after we leave. Of course, that
makes sense. We have spiritual gifts and they look different
in their beautiful and different ways for everybody, right, and
so being open to that part of you can truly
change and transform your life in so many ways.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Hey everybody, welcome back to the Reluctant Medium Podcast. I'm
doctor Maria Rothenberger, your host for the podcast, and I'm
stoked today because this is a topic that comes up
in readings for me that I'm like, no freaking clue
what I'm talking about. I'm just gonna relay what's coming through.
We're talking about angels today with Ashley George. Ashley, welcome
to the.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
So much for having me on. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Stoked to be just like pulling from your wisdom today
for sure. So I'm so clueless when it comes to this.
I'm just like, I don't know. Michael's here and he's
saying this, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Oh ye virtually talent yourself. So what do you think, oh,
thank you? What do you think that disconnect of the
angel energy?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I don't know if I feel you know, there's two
things maybe going on for me. One, I kind of
like the not knowing because when people like you come
on and are like, oh x y Z happens, I'll
be like, oh my gosh, validation okay, good, okay good.
But the other thing is there is so that it's vast,
(02:27):
this spiritual world, right, It's fast. There's so many things
that I'd like to learn about. I just talked to
somebody about the Kashik Realm. I'm like, I want to
know more. But yeah, it's just there's so much to know,
and so one thing at a time. Actually, yeah, at
a time.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I completely agree. There is a lot. There's a lot, yes,
so much.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, And tell us about you. How did you get
into the work that you do, and specifically angel work.
I'd love to know your history, how'd you grow up
and all that.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yes, so well, Actually it's kind of a long story,
but I had a spiritual awakening probably about I guess
it's been about four twenty twenty two, so like three
or four years, four years ago, and I am a
mom to three, busy mom three you know, at baseball
games and living a very quote unquote normal motherhood's life.
(03:23):
So insert angels coming in. I did not expect that
at all.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
This was after your already mom died.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yes, I have been very sensitive my whole entire life
since his child you know, childhood. I would just know things.
I would understand things. My husband would always be like, oh,
you're getting one of your feelings right, But I had
no context of what I was doing, why I was
feeling energy, or why I would I didn't even notice,
(03:54):
Like that's I didn't even know those words to put
in to validate what was going on with me my
whole life, you know, and being sensitive can be kind
of annoying to people right at different times, like oh no,
you're being too sensitive about this, or you're inner knowing
is wrong, you know, like somebody. A lot of times
(04:15):
throughout my life, I would internalize that as like, Okay,
something's wrong with me, Like am I too? I care
too much? I guess about people or things or the collective,
and so I would try to disconnect from that. After
becoming a mom. I'm a mom to three kids and
eleven years ago, she's almost eleven, my oldest I got
(04:35):
right after she was born. I got deep into wellness.
I just felt a huge push to pay attention to
all of that kind of stuff like eating certain foods,
you know, or get it, like, really went down all
of these rabbit holes. And I started a lifestyle blog
helping other moms and women try to inspire them about,
(04:57):
you know, just feeling good through motherhood and how I
feel like all of that's connected moving our bodies, you know,
eating great foods to feel us and just feeling good
and being a mom like it's hard, and that was
all great until all of a sudden it wasn't for me.
And I was like, I'm doing all the things that
(05:19):
the outside noise is telling me to do. I'm working now,
I'm eating healthy, I'm going to you know, I'm getting
blood work, doun. I was doing everything that I possibly
could do to be healthy. Why wasn't I feeling healthy?
And that ultimately led me to a very different path
and led me to going to experience an energy healer
(05:40):
for the very first time. I knew nothing about it.
I grew up Christian my whole life, and that was
you know, you can't do that, right. They would say
that's bad, that's wrong, you can't go do an energy healer.
So I didn't tell anyone. I didn't even ask anyone.
I'm just like, I'm going yes. And in that very
(06:03):
first energy healing session, my life completely changed. It will
never be the same. It was like I blew wide open,
and you know, I also, like I was saying earlier,
I didn't know a lot of the spiritual context of
what I was going through. After that you know, session
and things were happening, and I was sensing things and
(06:25):
it might you know, it's just like I my senses
just were on overload and heightened and like I had
said earlier or even more sensitive person, yes, so like
now it's like, oh my gosh, And I'm so grateful
for that healer. She helped me, she answered all my questions.
It brought me down a rabbit hole. I couldn't read
enough books, I couldn't listen to enough podcasts. I was
(06:48):
reaching out and finding mentors, and it ultimately led me
to understanding so much about myself. So many things made sense.
And even like I'm telling me, like I grew up Christian,
like I finally feel like I found truth because I
could never understand through well my growing up nothing. I
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didn't have anything bad or no religious trauma, but I
always felt close to Jesus and I couldn't understand where
I was feeling disconnect, Like I'm like, are they doing
it wrong? Or am I doing this wrong? Because I
feel like Jesus is so beautiful and so loving and
so healing, and he is not judgmental or shameful or
(07:33):
like wants you to feel bad about yourself and so
I always I tried so many churches, so many throughout
my life, and when after having kids and with my
husband and we were just I was like, I want
to have faith. It's important to me my life. But
where why can't we find something that works for us?
Or why can't I feel truth? And now I understand
(07:56):
like through all of this, I felt like God was
leading me down all of these pasts I had to
experience that I had to experience burnout and not feeling
great because it ultimately led me to my own inner
truth and going, oh my gosh, yeah, this is the
church is within us. All of this is inside of us.
(08:17):
And that's really when the angels start just coming coming
in there around other people. It was like I couldn't
keep all of it inside anymore. Even though I thought
I was going to I'm gonna be honest, I was like,
there's no way I'm telling everybody. I can sense angels
around people or hear them, I'm writing with them. I'm like,
(08:40):
I will just keep this my little secret. But bir
old the look. I could know this, but it just
felt overpowering at times, like I knew this person was
showing up on my path out of nowhere for a reason,
and there were so many coincidences things that were just
flowing into my life magically, and it has been a
(09:03):
beautiful and wild ride since all of that and the awakening.
But I'm so forever grateful. Truth.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
It's amazing. What a great story. I love it. It's
interesting we share a similar story around having grown up
in one way and being told another way is bad
or wrong or evil or whatever. And it's so interesting
that I connected with Jesus for the first time outside
(09:31):
of the church, outside of the church, and it was like,
Oh my gosh, you're real. Whoa, You're real, You're amazing,
You're wonderful. Oh my gosh, this is incredible.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And so yeah, and you've integrated it the churches within,
the churches within. That's just so so lovely. I can't
wait to dive into this even more. Angels specifically, but
certainly that there is And you're fortunate that you didn't
have to experience religious trauma. But for folks who have
(10:02):
and folks who have not, what hope on the other
side that you know they can connect in this way
and feel as healthy and well as you do.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
So great.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, and you have a podcast where you like spread
this out and reading you get reading.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I tried to absolutely, I love about this stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yes, your whole I'm going to keep this to myself.
Here's a podcast, so everybody knows.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
And the funny thing about that is I had a
podcast before the spiritual awakening, and I had with all
wellness stuff like motherhood wellness stuff. I had a blog,
I had a platform, and then I got to a point,
you know, where I really was like, I can't show
up on my platform anymore unless I mesh my content
(10:47):
completely and show up authentically what I really want to
talk about. And yes, I was so scared for anybody listening,
Like I was so terrified, Yeah you talk about these things,
because I was like, people are gonna judge me or
think I'm strange or they only know me is this way.
And I just kept praying about it and trusting it,
and it was just the more you're authentic, I really
(11:11):
believe this, the right people show up. You know, a
lot of people are interested in talking about this, whether
you think they're going maybe or they're not that most
people are very interested in Most people have these spiritual
experiences themselves and having these conversations is validating to them
on many levels. So they didn't even know they needed.
(11:33):
They're like, no, I have felt like that before, or
this has happened to me before. Yes, So I think
having conversations like even just me and you is so
beautiful for everybody because we can all have some sort
of resonation or validation that we our heart didn't even
know we needed.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah. And similar to what you were saying about, well,
I'm doing all the things things, why don't I feel well,
folks are tired of doing all of the things. There's
got to be something else.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, And you know, I believe we all have spiritual
gifts because that's who we are. That's who we are
before we come here, reed who we are after we leave.
Of course that makes sense. We have spiritual gifts and
they look different in they're beautiful and different ways for everybody, right,
And so being open to that part of you can
(12:28):
truly change and transform your life in so many ways
in like we're saying, in just simple ways of being
a mom too, like every day and it changed my
perspective of watching children as well, like a lot, and
like so amazing. They I was like, they're all old souls.
I have all old soul children. They're you know, just
(12:51):
you know, all of them different, being able to be
like teaching them about their own spirituality and Jesus juels,
but like within them and they don't have to fear
this part of them. It's just it's beautiful. So I'm encouraging.
And I'm sure all your listeners are very open and
they're all very spiritual themselves, but I just encourage you
(13:13):
to truly be your authentic self.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yes, no matter what that looks like. Yeah, you were
far braver than I was.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I was.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I had a podcast too before this one, and it
was all it was all fertility related, and I was
like very sciity and like mental health and you know,
evidence based this and that, and I would add in
sprinkles of like quantum physics, and then it was like, well, shit,
I think I need to I think I need to
really add into things. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I love talking about quantum physics too, because, oh god,
so interesting. I would love your opinion on this, but like,
like where we all like what we're talking about spirituality, angels,
don't you feel like quantum physics is like in the
next even in five to ten years, will be able to.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Very soon, Yes, very soon. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I've been saying this for the last truth.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
That's right, That's right, Ye's I like to say that
science and spirit are on the same continuum and they're
finally getting closer.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So I'm so stoked for It's very exciting, very exciting.
So yeah, okay, Dan, Actually we could talk for everyone ever,
I think can we?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Can?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
We dive into angels. I'm curious when you said something about,
you know, seeing your kids in a certain way, or
even folks without kids, right, because I'm sensitive to that.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Folks without children, they have.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Their animals or whatever other meaningful folks or beings in
their lives. I'm curious about the every day for you.
What are like everyday angels like for you? And how
does that? Do you literally see them with your eyeballs?
Are they in your mind's eye?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I'm just curious how does that work for you mine's eye.
I'm definitely more of an audible, like I hear it
and I feel it a lot more so, I get
a lot, especially when i'm writing, like just so much
comes out of me, and I will see them in
my mind's eye, and like I feel like I call
it like the eye of the heart, but it's really
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for me. It's more of like just this incredibly innernoying
of hearing words that I'm meant to share with other people.
And that's another thing about spiritual gifts and especially angels,
And when you're hearing these beautiful messages like and love
and healing and truthful messages as well, it's like if
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I kept that in and never shared that with anyone else,
Like my I feel like all of our gifts, Yes,
of course they're for me and myself as well, but
they are so much for other people as well. And
you know, kind of closing that part off or being
scared of it or being scared of what other people think,
is doing a disservice to the love and the truth
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in that high frequency healing that you can give to
so many other people. And you don't even have to say,
like I'm giving you this angel message. You could just
maybe have a knowing where it's a friend who needs
to hear something, or you see somebody who needs help
at a grocery store, or you have a grandparent or
whatever it may be, or a child. You just have
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this deep inner knowing where you're like, I need to
say this to you right now.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Ah, that's angel inspired you're saying.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
So I love talking about this. So I believe we
all have guardian angels. We all have our own teams, right,
so we have our spirit guides, our guardian angels that
we are all here with from beginning to end. And
then there's arch angels that are here to assist all
of humanity if you feel like you want to connect
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to them or learn about them. And my favorite word
to use with arch angels is empowerment. I feel like
they are incredibly empowering and empowering to you in a
way that helps you remember your own truth. Like they're
not going to share anything that you don't already know,
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but it's helping you remember what your soul and your
heart need to hear at that very given moment. They're
so beautiful, they're heling, they're so powerful that it can
bring me to tears at times because if such a
love and high frequency.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yes, yeah, yeah, that's the sense that I've gotten. It's
really interesting. I am so curious about your thoughts on
this because when I've come across angels in readings and
I don't know what I'm doing. All I can do
is tune into what I'm I'm clairvoyance. I see when
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I see folks, I suppose they would be one's guardian angels.
As you were saying, they feel very personal to the person.
What I see is like color and I can feel
a vibration. They just feel so pure, like there's no
there's not a whole lot of personality to them. They
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just feel pure.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yes, oh for sure. That's such a great way to
explain it. And for people with kind of learning their
different energies or their gifts, I always think that, like
when I'm connecting to a spirit, it is there is
a lot of personality, like there is a lot. It
feels different, And when you're connecting with an angel or
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specifically an archangel, it's so the only way I can
explain it is so powerful and so loving, and it's
like you just want to give love to whoever you're
talking about or with, or you're writing things down. It's
like this incredible love that you want to share with somebody,
but empowering and truthful, like it's not like they're not
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going to tell you the truth. It's nothing bad. It's
just an overwhelming like you can do this, like your
soul came to do this, Like you are loved, you
are so worthy, like you've got this, you know, like
that kind of an energy and a spirit. I feel like,
of course they could be so loving, but they're also
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like they want to get their messages through that they're
trying to share with.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, there's a personality attached.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah. I would say that angels, especially arch angels, are
very healing. Yeah to the art, and I feel like
it can really really heal people, and spirits absolutely can
be healing. People need to hear those messages sometimes, like
very much. Lefe giving a different energy though, Yeah, like
what you're explaining, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I can feel it in my body too. They just
their resonance is so high. It's their frequency is so
high and pure and even like their response to a
perceived human mistake is just it's the exact same as
a perceived human accomplishment.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
They're just like, really well, because they know what you're
capable of. They're like, hey, you know what you got
off this path. It's okay because we're gonna help you
remind you you can get right back on because that
is what you are here to do. And we're gonna
help you, and so it's just like this beautiful almost
like a mentorship or friendship. You can think of them
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as like mentor like spiritual mentors, because they are just
truly gonna be like we're going to get you on
the right path. They want nothing more to help you.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
That's what it feels like to me. And it just
feels like they are so non judgmental and like almost
a little bit like, yeah, I help you screw up
more because that's how you learn, Like it's okay, well
yet yeah, okay, yeah, it's all good.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, definitely there They know that we're here to learn
lessons and have to go through the hard times, the
ups and downs at different times in our life. Some
things are not fair, right what people have to go through,
but they will never lead, like they will always continue
to send you love and empowerment and just helping you
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remind you of like how worthy you really are in
this lifetime. Because I feel like we forget there's life
can throw so much at us as humans, right, like
so much, and some people have walked through very very
very traumatizing in darkness and that disconnect, we feel like
we're by ourselves right through all of this, And I
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feel like the angels are just like if you invite
them in and you feel connected to them, you know
they are just here to truly be like you can
get through anything, You can turn your light on broader
than ever before, because there's so much love within you.
We just forget it and the world disconnects us from
it too, so much thrown at us.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, I wonder if sometimes that's on purpose, but then
to reconnect to the to the angel realm or other
other beings that we resonate with. But the angels are
so accessible them. Yeah, I've had them say to people
before like we're here, We're just waiting for a job. Man, Like.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I feel like you definitely have angels around you are
I feel like arch Angel Raphael, like he's the healer angel,
so I feel like, I don't know if you do
a lot of healing or yeah, okay, I was like,
he's here, he works with you with healing. And then
I also feel Archangel Ariel, which she's animal, she does
(22:43):
a lot of holes, but I also feel her around
and I think we talked earlier about like baby baby
spirits yeah and spirit baby. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yeah, I'm a spirit baby person.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I feel Mother Mary around you too.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Oh okay, she's my favorite.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I was like, love married, like I actually help her
with the children.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
She's yeah, she shows up with Okay, now she's an entity.
Now so many questions. She has an entity that she
can bring me to tears instantly. Her love is so rich.
I can't even describe how my heart is just yeah
I can, I just instantly.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I'm the tear ups right now.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yes, she is just she has been so supportive of
me through some really rough times. And I'm not a
religious person. I never grew up Catholic. I never I'm not.
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Would you consider her an angel though, or is she different?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I definitely feel like so like Jesus, like Jesus and
Mother Mary. I do feel them with the angels a
lot of the time. Okay, I do feel like you know,
I know a lot of spiritual people call like this
sended masters, that kind of stuff. But I do feel
like they're in the angel realm, like that high frequency,
very high different feeling. Then, like we were talking about
(25:02):
connecting with maybe a spirit or a past loved one. Yeah,
they are. I mean, like you said, I can instantly
come to tears mother and Mary comes a lot with me.
Actually wrote about her in my book just I see
her around when I see her or feel her around
certain moms or women just women in general. Yeah, I
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usually know that they one either have a gift of
working with children or helping children, or two they need
to be mothered themselves and they're going through the most
hard time, yes or both. And I feel her around
a lot of amazing women, and it's it's beautiful how
much she's healthy. She helps children a lot too.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
She sure does. Oh my gosh, everything that you're saying,
this is what I mean by like, I don't know
a lot. And this is why, because somebody who does
know some stuff will come and say things and I'll
be like, oh my god, yes, that's exactly what I experienced.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
That's really right. When you were telling me about the
spirit babies, I was like, Mother Mary's yep, very much
part of your team. She is a facilitate a lot
of your I don't know if you give messages about
spirit babies or you. Yeah, she helps bring that. Yeah,
a lot she does.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
She's and she's come through for specific people that I've
done readings for and in specific circumstances. And I just
every time she pops in, I'm like, great, mother Mary,
I'm gonna start crying now. And it's.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
You and you see a person as well that we're
we both can feel.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
There's usually a resonance.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, there's a beautiful energy. And I always I share
a lot about this in my book too, But as
you know, I know some people are like, well, I'm not.
I don't feel connected to Mother Mary or Jesus because
I didn't grow up Christian or Catholic, and I personally
believe that they never wanted to start a religion. They
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were so incredibly spiritual. I feel like what Jesus was
trying to show was what was possible in human form,
and what he was saying was, hey, what I shall do,
You guys shall do better like follow me, not worship me.
Follow me because I want to teach you what is
possible while living on earth. And I feel like Mother
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Mary was his mom. Of course she was spiritual.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, yeah, you've.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Probably led him to grow up and give space to
him in a way that was like I have his
very spiritual son, and I am very spiritual myself. And
I just feel like, no matter what if you're religious
or you're not religious, or you're spiritual not, they are beautiful,
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beautiful frequency energies and love to work with they are.
And I don't feel like me would be you know,
religious to connect with them like they understand they know
every way we have been hot here on earth. They
are not judging you, they are not mad at you.
They're like, we are if you want to connect with
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us and we will help you.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
They are yes, yes, yes, yes, all all of that.
I have a question for you. This is kind of fun.
When I connect with Mother Mary, she is I like
to describe her as this, exactly this. It does not
matter if you are Adolf Hitler. Come in, come in.
I've got a hug for you.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Jesus's energy. When I first met him, I was like, oh,
you don't you don't want to cross this person. He's
he's like loving and compassionate, but it's like a fierce
like let's go do the things.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yes, like a little bit more like let's get this done.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Let's go, let's go into the world.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I feel like, you know, yeah, I can feel it.
I feel there a lot of stuff like how do
I I almost feel like him in our changel Michael's
energy can feel similar at times.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Oh, yes, you're right.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
True masculine energy that is very needed in the world
today is what I say is and our Changel Michael
says this to me that the true masculine energy is
that mind and heart connection.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yes, I'm just the.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Most powerful leader of a masculine because you can still
lead as a man, but have that heart connected to
your mind, her our change. Michael talk is very very
big on helping this with the collective right now. But
I feel that with Jesus too, Like he's very Jesus
in his heart, Like he is like I'm listening to you,
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I love you, I'm encouraging you.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
And I'm going to tell you the truth.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
He was very yeah, very mythical. He's like, now let's
talk about things and alchemy and a cellular level.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I feel like he understood all that. Oh absolutely, he
was like, God, this is what's happening. You know.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, with the language of the time and the belief
systems of the time.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Very much.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
But yeah, but and like I go back to what
I said before, I did not I was like shocked,
Jesus is real. It's real because I've not I grew
up Christian.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
But I'm like, yeah, now, I think so many people
like can relate to that story. Even me, Like I
grew up Christian, I felt Jesus even as a little girl.
I could still remember very much feeling. But I always
felt like he was a best friend. So that's where
I would get confused when other people were like using
him to weaponize whatever it was YES doing. I was like,
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it's a struggle it really. I was like, I don't
that feels so disconnected to what I feel. But then
I would be like, maybe I'm doing this wrong, like
something's wrong with me. Not that in the moment of
doubt that I felt Jesus in the truth and after
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my awakening, it was like I cried and cried and cried,
and I was like, my god, this is what I
have been looking and new since I was little. But
I just had no words, like I had nothing to
paint this picture. But it's like it's it was just
like everything in my body knew, Oh my god, this
(31:27):
is true. Yes, yeah, you know, and you're a sign.
You have the science background, like I can't prove it.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah, but it was like, this is true even with
the science background. Unfortunately we can't prove it you It's yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I think it's kind of great that christ consciousness energy
is very much tapped in for the collective. If people
feel called to connect with that energy is beautiful. One.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
If people just want to stay with like their own team,
their own angels, how do they how do you encourage
people or what skills do you give to people to
be able to do that?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Well? One, I know it sounds silly, but I just
talking to them, like you can even do it in
your mind, or you can write with them, or you
can say it out loud in the car, whatever it.
You know, whatever you feel like naturally you want to
do or how you want to connect with them. And
if it's new to you, I feel like, yes, it
might so silly to be doing that, but the more
(32:31):
and more you do it, you build this connection. I
feel like with your own heart, your own team, you
can start asking for signs. They love to send you signs,
be specific like say hey, I want to see this.
They love to send you stuff. They want you to
feel connected with them. I always think they're like waving
their hands like we have been wanting you to connect
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with us, like your whole life, thank you for finally
paying attention. You can you know, you can pray with them,
you can ask for things. I mean, I don't feel
like there's any right way to do it or wrong
way to do it. Maybe not everybody believes that, but
I really believe that they want the connection with you,
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and so how that can look different for everybody? Right,
you can meditate with them, you can pray with them,
you can write with them, you can just talk in
your car with them. Of that no judgment at all,
And so I don't you know, you could take one
hundred classes to try to connect with them. But I
honestly do not feel like there's a right or wrong way.
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Like you have so much love inside of you and
they want to connect with you, just start talking to them.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, what do you say to people? This is the
number one question that I get. How do I know
I'm not making this up?
Speaker 1 (33:47):
That was me too, So I completely understand. I'm like,
this is it. I've lost my mind. I've literally lost
my mind. I think for me personally, I like what
we're talking about, Like there's this feeling and this love
energy that can bring us to tears. There's there you
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cannot there's nothing that it can explain that feeling. Right,
and when you start trusting yourself and stop listening so
much to the outside noise like you have to do
it this way or don't do this, or this is wrong,
You've got to do this, go through this related you know,
whatever your route to God is when you stop kind
of the outside noise and you just come back to
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your own heart and start trusting yourself and you know,
like anything else, like the more we use that muscle,
the more that we can trust it, and it opens
up more. And there's things that I promise you, there's
things that you can't you won't. It will be so
wild that you won't even be able to not believe it,
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you know.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
That's the miracle thing.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
It's right, miracle for sure, Like miracles are a miracle frequency,
Like it is absolutely true. You just have to I
feel like you just have to trust yourself and quiet
the noise and really really just be able and be
open to love.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, yeah, and call it what it is, right, Like
when something miraculous happens, you can try calling it a coincidence.
But when a miracle happens and then miracle number two happens,
and then miracle number three happens, Okay, we got a.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Pattern here, Yes, absolutely, And I feel like paying attention
to like the little things like hey, why am I
thinking about that person all of a sudden?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Or why am I like remembering this memory out of nowhere?
Or why am I thinking of this TV show? Or like,
all those little things can also be your angels talking
to you to be like, hey, this person actually needs attention.
Just reach out, tell them, hey, I'm thinking of you everything. Okay,
check in just had a message. I always feel like
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I'm like those could that is one hundred percent your
angels trying to be like, hey, pay attention to these things.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yes, oh I'm it's so great. I just had a
reading the other day where someone was talking about you know,
we were talking about their their spirit baby and their angels,
and she's like, I had this this idea come to me.
And I'm like, you think it was.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Your idea, that's probably a far style, but angel, your
spirit god, and they're all like, hey, okay, we this
is your We got to just send it in now,
because yes, you are ready to either receive this creativity
or project or pivot in career, or change in life,
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or change the relationship.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Like all of those things. Your team is trying to
help you kind of just get in the flow, right.
I call it like the flow the entergy. The flow
of life doesn't have to be so hard, like when
we try to control everything, but when we open up
and surrender, let that go and just trust the flow
of your heart. It's wild.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
It's amazing what happens. It really is just yesterday. Why,
I'm pretty sure my angel is going Maria, you need
to meditate again. And you do, you develop a relationship
with them that's like very like colloquial. So I was like,
freakin' ay, really you're telling me this again?
Speaker 1 (37:29):
All right? Fine?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, it really is like that. You develop this friendship absolutely.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
And they want nothing more than that. Like, and I
think some people think, and I know too, like growing up,
even just Christian, sometimes I'd be like, is this like
can I not pray about this little thing? Like is
that bad or wrong to not? You know, it has
to be something like we really need God's help for this.
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But your team, big or small, wants you to connect
with them. The littlest things they are here to help you.
The biggest things, they are here to help you. So thrusting.
That is truly, it's like life changing for you. It is.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
It is even then the littlest I think starting with
the littlest ways is really great. But I have a
friend that she's like, you know, I just know when
I'm in the car with you that I'm going to
find a parking spot real quick. I'm like, eyep, because.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Lot or like when your kids lose things or I
lose things. I know for ye myself doesn't have to
be kids, but I'll say, can you just help me?
Put me in the directionn't wear this news show? Or
I teach my kids a lot about the angels, and
like even like my son before he plays baseball, I
have them calling the angels and you know, have him
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use that power and strength with him on the field. Yes,
And so I feel like there's so many ways we
can utilize our angels on the day to day that
is truly transformational on so many levels for your life.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, and they want to.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
They definitely want to. I'm telling you they're waving their
hands or red flout. They're excited, they're beautiful energy. They
just want to bring love to your life. And they
want to help you. They want to encourage you, they
want to empower you, and they want to help you
heal too. Yes, you know I didn't work spiritual. You
have to. You know, healing is work. It's not just
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Oh I had a spiritual awakening and I'm done. No,
life is perfect now human, and there are moments where
I'm not a great human, you know, like yep, I
get down on myself or I'm mad or whatever it is.
But that's the part of being a human. We get
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to feel feelings, Like that's part of the Earth experience,
Like we came to have all of those feelings like good, bad, bad, happy, surprised,
like love, hate, whatever it is. But like it is
a part of being human, sure is.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
And there is no judgment from the other side even
a little bit. Yeah, I have a final question for you. Actually,
I think I saw a podcast episode that you did
the difference between angels and spirit guides. Can you just
briefly talk about that. I was so curious about that
when I saw that.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Yes, so kind of like what we were talking about earlier.
I think spirit guides are people who signed up with
you for this life, you know, lifetime that are here.
I think they also have walked human lives and they
have their older souls and they're on the other side.
That's their job. They wanted to come in and be
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a spirit guide for you in this lifetime. And I
think you chose them too, and they chose you, like
I don't think you know you had no collaboration. Yes,
And I feel like spirit guides are like what we
were talking to there, there's a little more personality. They're
going to help you maybe with more like yeah, okay,
you know your stuff or purpose or this or whatever
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it may be. And angels and your guardian angels are
going to help one with more healing, protection, love, empowerment.
They want to help you remember who you really are.
And so I feel like their job A lot of
times too. They say arch angels never had human lives,
some of them. There's conflicting information about that, but that
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there's such a high frequency that they they're just like
God's messengers. That's their percose in creation. So okay, okay,
I feel like there's a lot of jobs on the
other side there.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
I know a lot of jobs on the other side.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
I don't think we just get to you know. I
feel like your soul is filled back with so much
love when you transition that you just want to help
everybody who is in whatever way that is it happened.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
So yeah, So when people say that a loved one
has crossed over and now there's another angel in heaven,
maybe not technically because angels haven't been accarnated before. But
there's another like guardian of sorts, like they do have jobs,
Yes I do.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
I'm conflicted sometimes I'm like, are there like earth angels
because I you feel sometimes like so much of a
high frequency or maybe it's like very much an old
soul that came in and I'm like, yeah, we're from
the angel realm that are that are heelers so much?
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Yeah, I wonder that too. I mean, I I connect
with spirit babies who are really really high vibration, and
I wonder about them being Yeah, they resonate very strongly
with angels. They don't call themselves angels, but they have
that similar resonance where there's totally pure love. Yes, so
(42:53):
I'm curious about that too. Another another podcast topic there.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Actually, angels are probably with a lot of the spirit.
They're probably all very connected in the same realm on
the other side.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah, I'm I don't know. I'm all I'm just open
and learning. But this is this is great if you've
helped me sort of add to that learning basket. So
thank you, which actually I appreciate it absolutely, Thanks so
much for being here and sharing your knowledge and wisdom.
I can't wait for folks to learn along with you.
And best place to find.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
You, I would say the best place, easiest place is Instagram,
Ashley J.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
George.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
You can shoot me a DM. You can find my
website there. You can find my book there. I talk
all about my own spiritual awakening, and then I also
talk all about the angels, and the last five chapters
are actually channeled from five archangels. And then you can
you can I give questions that you can start connecting
with the arch angels yourself, and so if you feel
(44:01):
connected or you want to learn more about angels, that
is a great place to start as well.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Thanks so much. We're gonna, of course link everything up
in the show notes too, so everyone look at that
and connect with Ashley. Thanks again so much for being.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Thank you. I love being, I love talking about this stuff.
We could talk and talk and talk. So you're on
my show as well, so thank you for having me.
Thank you,
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