June 12, 2025 • 44 mins
Join Dr. Maria Rothenburger in this episode of The Reluctant Medium Podcast as she delves into the Akashic realm with special guest Nancy Smith. Discover the history, significance, and modern understanding of the Akashic Records. Learn how to access these records and the importance of soul's journey from Nancy's extraordinary experiences and insights. Whether you're curious about spirituality, mediumship, or the intersection of science and the metaphysical, this episode offers a wealth of information and practical tips to guide your own exploration. Don't miss this deep dive into the vast and fascinating world of the Akasha.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A lot of unconscious stuff happens down in those two
chakras as far as I'm concerned, and your soul's plan
is embedded in those lower chakras. So no matter what
you choose to do in your life, and if you
want to live your life totally unconsciously, and that's perfectly fine,
you will still do your soul's plan because it's written
in your personality, and it's written in some of the
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belief systems that you come in with. And then your
parents are not randomly picked. You picked your parents, So
you'll still do your soul's journey, whether you're aware of
it or not.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Welcome to the Reluctant Medium, where we cover the gamut
of out there conversations with an open mind and a
curious heart. We want to talk about it all, from
psychic phenomenon energy medicine, to beings from other star systems
and out of body experiences. You'll find a great balance
between grounded, science backed topics and others that science hasn't
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quite caught up to yet. I'm your host, doctor Maria Rothenberger,
a psychotherapist by trade and reluctant spirit baby communicator.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
And Hey, even though.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I'm a medium here everybody. Welcome back to the reluctant
media about what I call and this topic us. I'm
your favorite podcast very lately over the years, and I'm
stoked now to be able to deep dive into the
Acasic realm, all around the Acacic realm with Nancy Smith. Nancy, welcome,
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appreciate you, thank.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
You, thank you. Thrilled to be here. And I was
so huge of going where what part do I say?
I know it's like, but you know when you were
saying that, I said, you know, we should do a
little little, weedy, little tiny bit of history on where
did this Aikashak record stuff come from? It's a seeing
script word and if Carlen Bovatsky is the one who
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brought it. Helena from an ancient tradition even older than
the Hindus, and she was a big run around the
turn study. She had a little money, she traveled and
she started the Theosophical Society.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So a Kashi connection got it.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, So she and then Edgar Casey journeyed. He was
the sleeping profit journeyed to the Akashak records. He was
all about the Kashak records and he has a ton
of healing modalities and a ton of wisdom and it's
in Virginia and his huge library. So the akasha is
an old, old concept and it got modernized. And so
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where I got it from. I was practicing medium. I
love my mediumship. I'm spirit artist, and I needed and
wanted to go a little bit deeper. And then there
was a Kashak records teacher that came along and she
was from a tradition, a lineage that came up I
think from South America. Oh so, anyway, so the akasha,
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and I tell you what the akasha to me is.
Oh yeah, Urban last Low is a scientist. Isistic? Is
this this? I think wrote a lot about the akashak
realm and connected it to science. So if anybody wants
a little science background, quantum physics, it's really cool. And yeah,
it just gives it a whole new platform. So you
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have the akasha, which is the Sanskript word for energy,
and it's really about source energy. And when anytime you
go to God and go to source, go to soul,
you're in the Akashak grow high level creativity, you know.
And somebody says I'm in the zone and they're playing
the piano, or they're doing a painting or they're writing,
and they're in this zone. They're in their soul's energy,
which is the akasha. So just so you know how
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it's everywhere all the time. Yeah, everywhere all the time,
anywhere or whatever, but it's it's the energy of the creator,
and we are children of the Creator. We have that
spark in our in ourselves. And in saying that word
makes it look complicated, but it's not.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, you've just simplified it.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Thank you. I love that.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
So when somebody Okay, let me just back up, I
would love to know about you, like, how how did
you come to do this work?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Did you grow up sort of open to this kind
of stuff? Did you? How did you come to do this?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah? I totally want to tell you. I was raised
I'm the oldest of nine in a very strict Catholic family.
Oh my yeah. And starting there, starting there, it's it's
a good, bad challenge. So I was a really intuitive kid,
and I was a highly sensitive kid and path but
learned to train myself out of it because there was
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too much going on in my family. And but I
rehad these memories of going to church when I was little,
and I loved the music, and I loved especially the
tinkling bells. Every time the priest said something chalan, I
would see the colors that I could see sometimes a
priest that I could see an angel standing behind him
while he's talking. I did not share this with my parents.
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I did not share this with my family. It was
not gonna happen. But I have this strong intuition, and
I had this strong love for God, for source, for
the angels, for the prayers. And that's the only thing
I was exposed to was the Catholicism. Of course, as
I got older, it was exposed to more things, and
there was a in the Catholic Church was the Charismatic Renewal.
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I don't know if you've ever heard of that, but
it's kind of like a Pentecostal I didn't say that
out loud movement within the Catholic Church where they were
like really into the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit, you
know that the day the Spirit blew in after Christ died.
And I'm not talking that I'm a devout Christian, just
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so you know I'm not. But this is just the
history of where I came from. There was healing there
was talking in tons, there was prophecy. I didn't know
anything I thought about to know dead people, but I
observed and saw hands on healing. And I also had
the experience of what we call channeling, which they call prophecy.
So I did channeling in front of it. Was fourteen
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years old, and I come from a since they come
from such a religious family, I had. My aunt and
uncle were part of that, and they would just bring
me in because I had these gifts of My parents
did not want to know anything about it, but I had.
Like when baby number eight, there's nine kids, was born,
it was my job. I had all the I had
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all the little mammy jobs. And I remember it was
her christening dinner and Mom made this huge feast and
she was baptized and she was in a nap and
I was sent back up to put her in a
christening outfit so I could bring her down a shower off.
Make sure you know she's after her nap. And I
was at the top of the stairs starting to walk
down the stairs, and I was already talking to angels
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by then, and I heard this big voice say stop,
and I'm like, and then I saw a green light,
red light yo, like kind of a light sun, and
I was like, what's going on? And so I waited
and I waited and I waited, and I'm like, why
did I have to up? But I always listened to
what the angels told me to do. It was ten
and then I closed my eyes and I said, when
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is it going to be a green light? And the
light turned green and I brought the baby all the
way down the stairs and everyone ooohed not over the baby.
So I'm walking here through the living room and then
I had to put her in a basinet, which I
had to walk across a bank of windows and put
her in the bacinet. The bank of windows was like
the dining room where everyone's going to eat. Well, all
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my cousins and siblings were not playing baseball softball in
the sideyard, and I was kind of like, why am
I not out there playing? And just as I was
getting to the first bank, the first window of the
bank of windows, the ball comes crashing through the window,
glass spread everywhere and just missed me and the baby.
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And I said to myself, I am never going to
ignore my angels ever. Always tell me good things. So
that was my total commitment to listening to my higher
guidance right there. My gosh, what a story. Yeah, thanks good.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, well I love the visual too, of the red light.
You can't get more obvious.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Now as a visual kid. I was a terrible reader
with a visual kid. Yeah, so I just think I needed,
like show me a sign and then I thought of
a signing. But you thinks, but it was so exciting.
I still get excited when I tell that story. Yeah,
but I couldn't tell a story to my aunts and
uncles and you just I just knew, and so I
kept it a secret for a long long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(08:37):
did do that right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I think I think we're educated out of it. I
mean as soon as you started as like, oh my gosh,
that's I didn't grow up Catholic. My parents did. But
it really was like, we don't talk about these things, right,
it's you know, that's a God thing, and you're not God,
and you don't have access to God. You connect to
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somebody else who has access to God for you. So
even now, I remember this is recently within the last
i don't know, four years, three or four years, I
was playing with a pendulum with my son, just kind
of showing it like, oh, it's actually kind of science y,
you know, it's electro bagneta field and all that. And
my mom was like, we just.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Didn't want it.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So that's I love my mom. She's delightful. But yeah,
it's it's an instillment.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
There's a lot of hear around it. And you know,
there's a little piece of trivia that I learned not
that long ago spirit because I'm a Spiritualist minister. So
I met and I studied the Spiritualist tradition, follow it
and it's a nice to have a tradition, although I
break the rules all the time. But I found out
that when spiritualism first started in eighteen twenty seven or eighteen,
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it just was huge. It was absolutely thousands and thousands
of people wanted to get on board with there's nothing
between me and God, and God is in spirit is
going to talk to me. I'm going to find out
about the you know, the ones that passed on the
other side, and the there was a lot of spiritual
growth that spiritualism brought people, and there was women's emancipation
(10:11):
within spiritualism. But anyway, the Catholic Church was so concerned
about losing its constituents losing its people. They weren't really
losing them, but they thought, we've got to make a rule.
So they said, if you are found to be partaking
in any of the spiritualists talking to the dead, you
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will be excommunicated. Now, that was in the early nineteen hundreds,
and it made spiritualism evil, and it was never seen
as evil until the jealous Catholics put their big you know,
put into it. So the fear that we have is
inbred in us from other sources, authority, sources that just
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want to scare the crap out out of us. Yeah,
and so we don't do if there's nothing between us
in God, there's nothing between us and the source, then
churches go out of business if they're not.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's business, isn't it. Yeah, Yeah, it's Oh gosh, you're
a wealth of information. I'm liking this. This is fun.
I love history stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
This is how I know I'm a nerd. Yeah. Thanks,
so it's.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Fun, it is, yay, fellow nerd.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
O good well, thank.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
You for all of that. I love that information in
the history and your story. And that's only a tiny
piece of it. I'm sure there's a lot more. Yeah,
can we I'd love to talk about the Akashic realm,
as I said before, but also specifics, like especially in
relation to things that have come up with with readings
(11:48):
that I've done, and I'm like, i just have no
idea what I'm talking about. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Please.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
You know you can connect with a nacastic reader, but
I have. For example, here's here's one thing that comes
up pretty regularly. I can connect with folks guides, and
oftentimes a guide will identify themselves as an Akashak guide
or a Keeper or something, and I'm like, I don't
know what this means. What does that mean? And is
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that a thing?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I tell you? If you're getting information here, I'm the
Keeper guide. I'm the Acajak guide that you are connected,
strongly connected to the Ecajak records. I have to say this,
but Keeper is like a library in my experience, So okay,
there's lots of opinions. Keeper is the librarian in the
Akacak realm. Everything that has ever been created, that the
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creator has ever created is in this Acacic realm. It
kind of a library energytic library form, and the library
is intelligent, it's growing and learning. So a Keeper might
come in and say to you, here's the section of
the library I want you to go into. Here's where
I want you to be. May not be that literal,
but you're into a place of a soul alignment, or
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maybe you're reading for somebody who's having a soul appointment,
or and it heads up. Pay attention to this. This
isn't just your normal day, and so a keeper can
take you into the Akashic records, into the it's basically
the soul's information. Our souls create how I see, and
our souls create us rules as spirit, and our spirit
goes on forever, and our spirit passes back to heaven,
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but our souls in charge of that and our soul.
When they talk about soul groups, there will be many
spirits within a soul group that are trying to do
a certain thing. Maybe learn to love your neighbor, or
maybe learn to speak up, or learn to use your
creativity while you're alive, even though nobody agrees with you.
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So many soul messages and so a keeper is a
very special guide that is giving you very intense and
important information. And I just want to throw in the
fact too, that they're talking to who just like your mediumship.
You're talking to spirit, you're talking to a soul, you're
talking to guides, you're talking to intelligent beings that look
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over the Akashak records because it's so huge and it
feels vast. Yeah, it's a nice to have a guide.
And also there's a lot of secrets in the Acatac records.
There's a lot of I find that there is technology
in the Acacac records, and it's the records of everything
ever created since the creator started. There can be extraterrestrial
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stuff in the eContact records. There could be alien technology
in the records. There can be different cultures or different forms.
We're in a specific human form. I've done your past lives,
and all of a sudden, I'm on another planet with
another type of being, with a whole different set of
life expectancies, not not life long expected, but cultural. I
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guess you could call it life things. So you really
want to have a keeper and a guide that doesn't
that that keeps you focused in the present movement? Is
that kind of cool? Though? If you want to just
you could open up the records once you learn how
to open up the records. Specifically, there's a prayer and
a create your own prayer, or there's an energy that
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you need to have aligned be aligned with so that
you could enter the records of purpose. It's not just
an open you need the key, the energetic key. It's
not Willie Nelly, and you need to kind of be
the right mind and stuff. What am I trying to say?
So there is a everything you own, you can open
up the records of that. If you own a house,
you can open up the records of the land. But
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since we're you're a citizen of a certain company, company country,
you can open up the records of that country to
see where it's going or to see what admission of
the country is future enough fit future stuff as well
as present stuff as well as what's the you know,
is Germany on the right track? Where did Germany come from?
What was what was the root of Germany? Or the
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UK or Okay, But you need to be a member
of Like I couldn't open up your Acajak records, Willy nilly,
unless you said, Nancy, will you open up my records?
Be forbidden? And I tried to open up the records
of certain places through some historical research with somebody. She
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said can you open your records and find out about this?
And psychically I probably could have done fine, but the
records would not mean because I didn't have permission. Turns
out it was a battle scene, a site where a
lot of soldiers were buried. I think British soldiers up
in New England were just buried, hundreds of them in
a mass gray. So time goes on, you know, they
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forget about it, and then they build a little town
around it. And so this one particular house, this woman
had two small boys in the house and she kind
of I get the feeling that she kind of knew
but didn't want anyone to know, and she didn't want
her boys to be affected by any history like that,
that they were living a cup of a budget. I
don't know what was going on, but I had the
big no, and I said, I can't fight that. No,
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there needs to be some other kind of permission here
that I don't have. And I felt that if I
had gotten the owners, how the houseowner's permission, maybe we
could have gone a little bit further. But if this
is I'm just trying to show you the intensity of
the information and the respect that the records has. Four
people in the present moment.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
That sounds so ethical to me. I love it.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
They they are and respectful. Yeah, if I feel like
if you disrespect this energy, they'll just not be open
for you. You can get in and once get in twice,
then you misuse it, You're not going to get in again,
so then you start using your psychic abilities, which are
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just as powerful.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
But yeah, okay, ooh, I'd like to get into the
difference between those. But I have a question real quick
about sort of related. I have had an acashic record guide.
When I'm connecting with a person, I'm not actually intentional
about reading their records, it's just the guide shows up.
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But sometimes the person will have a question and the
guide will say, like, they won't show them. Oh, does
what does that mean? Just as blank, I know, I.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Don't like it when they won't give me the information.
I'm just just asked you that. What I do is
I think in my way that you just need to
ask the question differently, or there needs to be some
teaching before the information comes. Okay, And they're not, and
so they'll get the information, they'll make some badass story
up in their head about it, take it in a
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total different way and you've lost them. But if you
ask the guides what is the teaching or asking this
question they want to know about blah blah blah, and
you don't get anywhere. What is the teaching? What is
the less and what are they learning here? What do
they need to know? Now they will help them.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Oh, thank you for that. I'm like, I don't know,
it's just blank. They're not telling me the answer. I'm
so sorry.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It's fine. I think that's a perfectly legit answer. But
you can also say, if they're not telling me, then
maybe we need to come at it from another point
of view. Maybe there's an emotional issue. Maybe there's a psychologe.
When you're good at this, a psychological thing that if
you knew such and such, you you would just it'll
be Domino's effect to the time. Spirit is like freaking
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amazing in terms of understanding the psyche.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yes, they seem very protective.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, and they're protective people too. They don't want to
wreck people's heads or their life right right right?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, Yeah, that's what it feels like. And yet it's
quite frustrating for the person if they need this, you know, clarity,
But oh gosh, thank you for that tip. I appreciate that. Hey, everyone,
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future question in today's episode. I'd like to know about
folks connecting with their own or accessing their own records,
and you've written a book about that, so I'd love
to talk about that. But first, can we talk about
the difference between psychic tools or psychic awareness or skills,
and yeah, talk about that in mediumship.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
This first time i've heard this mediumship. And then and
then I'll expand is when you talk to a loved
one in spirit on the spirit side, you can connect
to them and they'll have a conversation with them. It's
an energy exchange depending on where your gifts are as
a medium and where your propensity is and so. But
you're getting the information from an intelligent b and if
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your work and you need to be psychic to kind
of do that. But if you're reading for somebody a
straight psychic reading, I'm not one hundred percent agreeing with this.
You're picking up stuff from their oric field in their
past and their future. You're not necessarily talking to their guides.
I'm a lousy psychic. I need to talk to the
guides and I need to talk to their soul or
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the loved one. But getting better at the psychic stuff.
But it's the information, it's the source of information, is
what the key here is for me. And I don't
have anything against psychic, but I also know that psychic
sometimes they'll learn the soul level learning, isn't there. Did
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you ever get a reading where somebody said you're this,
you're this, you're this, and then you have this, you
go yeah, you're right, Yeah, you're right. And then the
reading's over and they go home, and then you are like,
what do I do with all this information? There's been
no soul learning, there's been no development. The reader was
amazing and totally after Yeah, and that's where having a
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spiritual path, that's we're going to a soul of the
person or going to a guide or going to the
ecostic realm. What do they need to know right now
that's going to help them grow? Every time I do
a reading, my poor clients have to go home and
do homework. Yeah, I feel like, what are you doing this?
And oh yeah, it happens all the time. I said, well,
x y Z, your guides are telling me and could
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you take a look at that and cut it out?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
But not get off already.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
But I like the concept of hope that the soul
will give the person having their life. And we are
in a free will zone and we don't have to
listen to our angels or our souls or follow any
kind of life path if we don't want to. But
I found out something when I was really going into
writing this book and also teaching the Akashic Records and meditation.
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I realized, this is not written anywhere, that our soul's
plan is in the chakra right above our head. There's
two chakras. You don't mind me talking about this, right,
these chakras up here, and then then we have our
lower root chakra and are not our solar plexus. I
think it includes but our sacred chakra. And that's a
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lot of unconscio stuff happens down in those two chakras
as far as I'm concerned, And your soul's plan is
embedded in those lower chakras. So no matter what you
choose to do in your life, and if you want
to live your life totally unconsciously, and that's perfectly fine,
you will still do your soul's plan because it's written
in your personality and it's written in some of the
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belief systems that you come in with. And then your
parents are not randomly picked. You picked your parents. So
you'll still do your soul's journey, whether you're aware of
it or not. And I thought that was when I
was asking the records about that. I was asking when guys,
I said, that's kind of a cool plan, so I
don't have to worry so much. That's right, you don't
have to worry so much. But do follow you know
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your heart, do follow your guidance. It'll be easier.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, yes, yeah, it'll feel aligned. Less bumpy or not
that bumps don't exist, but it's like we ride the
waves a little bit easier.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
More understand that the flow of You know, there's all
the natural laws and there's all the things and how
life works, but you have your own version of how
life works, and you have your own universe within yourself
and you got to respect that. In my opinion, you
respect that and you don't try to, Oh that's an ego,
let's shoot it dead. No, that's not going to work.
But what you want to do is integrate what Here's
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another big thing that I learned from working with my
soul in the Kashak realm is they want to know
what you're going through. They want to know the hangnails,
they want to know the things that the big hiccups
because they're learning from them. It's it's they're not feeding
off of it, but they're they're learning. They're they're learning
how to guide you. But they're also member I said,
the souls.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Have a.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Thing they want to learn. Yeah, you have a lesson
they want to learn, or an experience that they want
to have, And so you're kind of doing.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
That and you're giving the data. You're the front line
giving the data back walkie talking. Okay, here's what it is.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
That was a really bad idea. I don't know I'll
start do that again. But if we can allow ourselves
to have that exchange and don't hide what you think
you're embarrassed about, but be honest with spirit. This is
you know, I am so jealous of her, and I
don't understand why you gave her that. You didn't give
this to me. So then your spirit can say, your
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soul can say to your spirit, let's work on jealousy,
let's work on self love kind of thing. But if
you don't share those things in your spiritual path and
you won't have that guidance, you won't have that help. Yeah, yeah,
will you won't. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
It feels really this is just a side note, but
when I've connected with guides and even loved ones who
have passed on, there's literally no judgment at all about
this kind of stuff. There's nothing. It's like this is beautiful.
Keep screwing up. It's how you learn. It's great, you
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got time. I know.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
There's just so much love yeah from them. If we
could only live that in our day to day lives.
I have hard time living in my day to day life.
I just I'm just annoyed or this happened or that happened.
And how come this actor feels so high and I
really have to remember to go back to that.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, welcome to being human, right right, it's a it's
a tough school. Well, I'm wondering about this too, as
a as a foreshadowed before folks being able to access
the records or the Kashak realm. I don't even know
what phrase you would use themselves. Yeah, he wrote, can
(27:37):
you say what your book is?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Well, it's I'll hold it up, s hold it up.
It's divine. Yeah, it's here. It is. It's called Divine
Love Affair and a Kashak Journey on a nails Award.
I don't know if it's very exciting, but this book
is how to what the Akashak records are, what the
Kashak field is, to love a god, the creators creative energy,
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and then how to access it. And then there's lots
of ways to access the econtric records. And I also
have a on purpose prayer, ritual prayer and here to
access the econtoic records. And how I so what are they?
What is it? It's the creator's energy, it's Heaven, it's
and and there's all the libraries for all the things
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the creators ever created. And then it's your there's your
personal library of what you came here to do. And
inside your own temple are your talents, your soul's dream
for your life. Now, your soul contracts that you brought
in that aren't necessarily working, your agreements that you made
that are off base. They're in there. You could read
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in your soul agreement or your sol contract book. It's
working for me. Why isn't this working. We can get
rid of this now, you know, or we can redefine it.
Or I was supposed to be doing this and I
thought it was this over here, It could be clarifying.
You don't have to worry about the big these things
over here, they're just getting in your way. This is
the real meat of it. Kind of I feel like
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when I go into and everyone's different. When I go
into the Akashak records. I get a lot of healing stuff.
I get a lot of belief system stuff, a lot
of thought stuff, and the revealing gifts that you didn't
know you had. That's one of my favorite things that
I do like to do for myself is I want
to do something where in the Akashak records mind or somebody,
you know, the realm, where's the good math thing. I'm
(29:29):
having trouble balancing my check book. I want to go
and you know, have that exchange. So there's there's learning.
Is that? Do you tell the story about Dimitri Mendela
the chemistry periodical table with all the temporal chemistry. Yeah, yeah,
he had Back in his day, there were a lot
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of earth elements and he wanted to organize him because
he knew intuitably or he knew intellectually that there was
a relationship between them all and he was working and
working and working on it, but it wasn't coming together
the way he perceived that it should come together. So
at one point he wanted this so bad and he
would work and be you know, no not to sleep,
(30:13):
just work through the night. And one time he had
some big appointments, so he worked through the night and
he didn't quite get it, and he was half asleep.
He went into it. You know, you have a sleep
you kind of like turns like, you know. And then
all of his cards and pieces of paper lifted up
off the table and reorganized themselves into a table, and
there were a lot of blank boxes on that table
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as well. So he wrote it up and today that
periodic table still exists and all the boxes are filled
in exactly the right place. Oh my god, that's the
akashak realm. That head. So you want to design at
a really good electric car that or hydro or whatever.
(30:55):
Just called the cut records and just meditate with it. Fine,
w wow. I don't think I could do a science
thing because I'm not science minded. But there have been
times when I've had things when I tried to understand, well,
somebody struggling with something and they didn't know what to do.
That's that's my gift, to go into the records and
to say yes, oh no, this person.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, and you're an artist, yeah, do the artist art
comes from there?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yes, I call it. I do this thing. I want
to tell you, can tell you a story. It just
happened yesterday. I was so excited. This is what I
was learning. I do what I call soul art. So
in mediumship, I learned early on that I could draw
people's faces, and sometimes they always wished I could do that.
It's so cool. And then I found out after a
(31:42):
little while that I could draw the last face somebody
saw when I was doing some crime stuff. And then
I didn't want to do that, but it was like
what this woman. I drew it, and then she pulled
out the newspaper article and they were skitting. And that
was from the accussion, I swear. And then so I
started to do what I call soul drawings, where I
(32:05):
just take my pastels and I just stack home crazy
on a page, or I'll see an image and I'll
just draw this abstract image or whatever, and then I'll
get the information you need this color to heal. But
this is going to happen over here, and this was
what this means. And it just comes out of me,
flying from my pastels and from my mouth. And this
(32:26):
woman called me and left the voicemail. She goes, I
want to talk to you about a drawing you did
from my mother, and I said, oh, no, here we go.
I was know it's one of those. So we did
phone tag and finally we talked last night and she says,
this just happened. This just happened. Yeah, this is fresh
(32:47):
off of the you know, and she says, you you're drawing.
You predicted my mother's death and I don't predict anybody's deaths.
I was like, God, what happened. She says, Well, you
did hurt this drawing. And it was this blue sky
and this was this march. She lived on a marsh
and you kept telling her her light was going to
be bright and this guy, you know, like blue skies
literally and she had just left a bunch of friends
(33:10):
and they were very painful relationship and she finally ended
it and then she was going to retire, so she
stayed figure she they figured out that this session was
talking about her retirement. And this was just a few
months ago. And she showed it to her daughter who
lived in Colorado when she lived in New England, and
so she loved the drawing. She was so excited. Her
mother was so excited about the reading. Well, she just
(33:32):
passed away a week ago and she flew in from
Colorado and saw the drawing again and she realized you
drew my mother's heaven. You drew heaven. This is where
she is right now. And she said, I never believed
in heaven. I never knew what any of that meant,
she said, But when I look at this drawing, I
know she's okay and she's happy and it's beautiful, all
(33:54):
the tears. It was amazing because I couldn't have done that,
you know what I mean, this is no way. She's
kind of just greeving, deeply grieving. And she said, it's
helping me. Not that I helped her, but the spirit
gave them vision. And plus guess what we got a
little snapshadow of what heaven looks like. Good. Yeah, I know,
(34:17):
I want to see it, I said. I did a like,
I did ten drawings that day. Can you send it
to me? I don't know which one it is. Oh,
and I can't wait to get it.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Oh my gosh, that's what a lovely story.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah. And that's the wisdom of spirit, and that's the
wisdom of Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
So you're saying folks can use whatever, really they are. Oh,
this is interesting because I was just it's is gonna
sound very earth bounty, But I was just at the
gym with with my boyfriend this morning and he was saying,
you know, I just we were talking as we were
living and he's like, I just feel like he's a drummer.
He's like, I just feel like I need to get
(34:58):
into that state and click record play for like ten
to fifteen minutes, because that's when I know I'm in
that flow state. And I wonder if that's where he is,
he's accessing you know what flow is.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, it's that he is totally and he could set
the intention and just and then go let it, let
it go. He could, and since he knows how to
do it with the drums, he could do it on
anything he needs to solve. Get into that full stage
and then attempt to do the thing that you're struggling with. Right,
(35:36):
And it's wanzing how like Domino's, things could fall into
place or something will introduce itself. That that's why you're
having trouble because you need to do this other thing
that needs to come in.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Okay, But I was going to generalize that to whatever
skills anybody owns, right, So somebody who is a scientist,
periodic table, right, an artist, a drummer, whatever. I think
that that's beautiful a beautiful way to look at it.
And so you give specific ways in your book for
people to be able to access.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, and some stories in there too, and then some
healing how to. The biggest most asked question is am
I just making this up? Is this? How do I know? Yeah?
It's real? Oh yeh, that's so big. Yeah, it's huge.
So we do a lot of work in this book
around that, to understand when your mind is telling you something,
(36:32):
when your fear is telling you, when your intuition is
talking to you, and how to kind of set some
of the worries aside and get in and trust that
intuitive voice. I do a program called the Five Languages
of your Soul where how you can step out of
or how can you actually can use your mind, your
(36:52):
busy mind to shift and get information from it. I have,
I have tools for mind mapping. One of my what
is this what is this energy really telling me? Where
can I go with it? And I teach also that
once something is observed, it changes. Once something is observed
in sacred space, when you can open up to the records,
(37:14):
you can open up to that higher flow that when
you observe your fears, they will shift, they will grow
to their higher octave. What they here's what you're really
afraid of, but you can't admit it to yourself just yet.
So but the the healing presence of the akashak Realm
records or God will will help you grow out of
(37:37):
that fear that's been there for years and years.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Wow, so much healing to be done? Then, so much healing?
How so listeners or watchers on YouTube, how do they
know to go to you to get a reading versus
attempting to do this on their own? Is there some
idea or a rule or theme around it, or.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
What do you do? Well? I think sometimes it's helpful
to have somebody that you trust, like most people trust me,
not everybody, but have somebody that you resonate with that
will help you take you to a higher place or
help you move out of where you are, and that
can be the catalyst. But most of it is your
own work on your own. Okay. So we you know,
(38:22):
like I said, the reading, the person that gave the
reading and gave this all this information, and then the
person left and said, I don't want to do with
any of this. They need the tools to know what
to do with this, but they still have to do
the work, so I guess you can't. I want to
get a cheat sheet where I didn't have to do
some of the work I gotta do, but I have
to do it.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
But yeah, but cheat cheat cliff the cliff notes.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, so you would use the cliff Notes. You would
use a reader at the Kashak Realm as a guy, yea,
a guide here earth Bule guide or somebody who'd help
you move through something or step over something that I
didn't even know that was a And so we both
you need to do both, not either or so how
do you know? You need to see if somebody if
you're going around and around around circles and you've got stuck
(39:07):
energy and it's just just not moving.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Okay, yeah, okay, that's a great just a guidepost for
folks to Okay, I'm feeling like I'm spinning. I'm going
to go see Nancy.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
That's great. And I help mentorship programs too. Sometimes I'll
get a one off session and we'll well, yeah, so
we got this, we got this, and then when I
admit that they really didn't get it. So I offer
like the six free six sessions and twelve sessions and
six months worths of sessions where we can look at
one topic, or we can work on a behavior structure
(39:42):
that you want to change. I'm not a therapist, but
I'll take you to your soul and I'll take you
to that energy and we'll work from there. Yeah. But
people combined therapy and psyche, the psyche soul work. Yeah,
so yeah, and I think that's great. I know, and honestly,
I have found that.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
And this is probably my colleagues are probably like, but
I have found that spiritual work. I can't legally call
it therapeutic, but dang if it's not therapeutic, I mean
it's so deep and rich and creates so much loving,
compassionate change for someone, I don't how can that not
be therapy. But anyway, I'll just yeah, I'll call it
(40:29):
that privately.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yeah, I don't. Yeah, what is I've had people come
and I don't and they said, I was been working
on this in therapy for years. You just got me
to the next stage. I said, good, Then take it
back to your therapist and keep working in it. You know.
But if people are struggling with deep depression, I'll be
happy to work with you, but you have to have
(40:52):
a therapist that that can take you if something really
goes away, I can't.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, it's not either or it's definite. A beautiful combination
to have those those both of those guides.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Really so Shamanism. I just want to jump in. Shamas
and has a lot of soul work. And I swear
the Shamans they're working from the yakashak round different way
they're identifying it.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, they do amazing work. And that's there's actually a
type of therapy called internal Family Systems that is very
much like shamanism. When I heard about it, I was like,
this sounds exactly like shamanism to me.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
It's like, this is awesome.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
And it turns out the creator of internal ifs, this
is what he was hoping to do, is create more
spiritual connection in the in within, you know, evidence based psychotherapy,
which I think we're getting there. We're getting closer all
the time.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
So it's wonderful. There's a little bit of that in
my book. I call it Voices Within is a little
bit and that's when that voice can't get out of
this suck, you put it into sacred space and you
have conference.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
I love it. I love that so much. Yes, it's wonderful,
my gosh. And this is only listeners and watchers a
snapshot of what Nancy does. Like a little snapshot. You
have a you have a podcast yourself that's over two
hundred episodes. There's lots of I'm sure this information there.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Please say what it's called angel Scapes. It might my
website angel Scapes out net, so I call it the
podcast angel Scapes, but it's it's out there. You can
it's a YouTube channel and you can. It's also a
on my website. Any in any event, I try to
do little tiny trainings or or talked to people who
are doing something like a homeopathic person and are got
(42:44):
a bunch of mediums or animal communicator, astrology, so you
can start to pull all these pieces that are available
to you into your life and have them be make
sense as opposed to a whole big Schmargus board that
you just don't know how to connect. But if you
can take the training anyway, that's what my goal is.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
On the podcast, thank you, I'm subscribing. Yay, everyone follow me.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Good stuff.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Oh my goodness, Nancy, thank you so so much for
being here today. On the Reluctant Medium, I appreciate you
and your wisdom, and I'm subscribe to your podcast and
intentionally even booking and reading and sometime in the future
it would be.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Awesome, wonderful. Thank you for having me on. I hope
I gave you enough information to start peeling away the
mystery of the Akasha yea.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
And yeah, it's just the start. I'm sure I want
to I want to dive deeper. I just think it's
fascinating stuff. So any interest in coming back, like, oh,
sure time, that would be awesome.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Oh, be awesome. I would love to come back. We
could talk. I spose we could just talk for hours.
Just yeah, yeah, but definitely if you if you enjoyed this,
I would.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
It's such good stuff.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Thank you so much, thank you so welcome.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Thank you for joining the Reluctant Medium podcast today. I
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next time, my friend, May you be well.
A lot of unconscious stuff happens down in those two
chakras as far as I'm concerned, and your soul's plan
is embedded in those lower chakras. So no matter what
you choose to do in your life, and if you
want to live your life totally unconsciously, and that's perfectly fine,
you will still do your soul's plan because it's written
in your personality, and it's written in some of the
(00:21):
belief systems that you come in with. And then your
parents are not randomly picked. You picked your parents, So
you'll still do your soul's journey, whether you're aware of
it or not.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Welcome to the Reluctant Medium, where we cover the gamut
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between grounded, science backed topics and others that science hasn't
(00:54):
quite caught up to yet. I'm your host, doctor Maria Rothenberger,
a psychotherapist by trade and reluctant spirit baby communicator.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
And Hey, even though.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I'm a medium here everybody. Welcome back to the reluctant
media about what I call and this topic us. I'm
your favorite podcast very lately over the years, and I'm
stoked now to be able to deep dive into the
Acasic realm, all around the Acacic realm with Nancy Smith. Nancy, welcome,
(01:27):
appreciate you, thank.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
You, thank you. Thrilled to be here. And I was
so huge of going where what part do I say?
I know it's like, but you know when you were
saying that, I said, you know, we should do a
little little, weedy, little tiny bit of history on where
did this Aikashak record stuff come from? It's a seeing
script word and if Carlen Bovatsky is the one who
(01:50):
brought it. Helena from an ancient tradition even older than
the Hindus, and she was a big run around the
turn study. She had a little money, she traveled and
she started the Theosophical Society.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So a Kashi connection got it.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, So she and then Edgar Casey journeyed. He was
the sleeping profit journeyed to the Akashak records. He was
all about the Kashak records and he has a ton
of healing modalities and a ton of wisdom and it's
in Virginia and his huge library. So the akasha is
an old, old concept and it got modernized. And so
(02:30):
where I got it from. I was practicing medium. I
love my mediumship. I'm spirit artist, and I needed and
wanted to go a little bit deeper. And then there
was a Kashak records teacher that came along and she
was from a tradition, a lineage that came up I
think from South America. Oh so, anyway, so the akasha,
(02:53):
and I tell you what the akasha to me is.
Oh yeah, Urban last Low is a scientist. Isistic? Is
this this? I think wrote a lot about the akashak
realm and connected it to science. So if anybody wants
a little science background, quantum physics, it's really cool. And yeah,
it just gives it a whole new platform. So you
(03:13):
have the akasha, which is the Sanskript word for energy,
and it's really about source energy. And when anytime you
go to God and go to source, go to soul,
you're in the Akashak grow high level creativity, you know.
And somebody says I'm in the zone and they're playing
the piano, or they're doing a painting or they're writing,
and they're in this zone. They're in their soul's energy,
which is the akasha. So just so you know how
(03:36):
it's everywhere all the time. Yeah, everywhere all the time,
anywhere or whatever, but it's it's the energy of the creator,
and we are children of the Creator. We have that
spark in our in ourselves. And in saying that word
makes it look complicated, but it's not.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, you've just simplified it.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Thank you. I love that.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
So when somebody Okay, let me just back up, I
would love to know about you, like, how how did
you come to do this work?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Did you grow up sort of open to this kind
of stuff? Did you? How did you come to do this?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah? I totally want to tell you. I was raised
I'm the oldest of nine in a very strict Catholic family.
Oh my yeah. And starting there, starting there, it's it's
a good, bad challenge. So I was a really intuitive kid,
and I was a highly sensitive kid and path but
learned to train myself out of it because there was
(04:35):
too much going on in my family. And but I
rehad these memories of going to church when I was little,
and I loved the music, and I loved especially the
tinkling bells. Every time the priest said something chalan, I
would see the colors that I could see sometimes a
priest that I could see an angel standing behind him
while he's talking. I did not share this with my parents.
(04:58):
I did not share this with my family. It was
not gonna happen. But I have this strong intuition, and
I had this strong love for God, for source, for
the angels, for the prayers. And that's the only thing
I was exposed to was the Catholicism. Of course, as
I got older, it was exposed to more things, and
there was a in the Catholic Church was the Charismatic Renewal.
(05:20):
I don't know if you've ever heard of that, but
it's kind of like a Pentecostal I didn't say that
out loud movement within the Catholic Church where they were
like really into the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit, you
know that the day the Spirit blew in after Christ died.
And I'm not talking that I'm a devout Christian, just
(05:41):
so you know I'm not. But this is just the
history of where I came from. There was healing there
was talking in tons, there was prophecy. I didn't know
anything I thought about to know dead people, but I
observed and saw hands on healing. And I also had
the experience of what we call channeling, which they call prophecy.
So I did channeling in front of it. Was fourteen
(06:01):
years old, and I come from a since they come
from such a religious family, I had. My aunt and
uncle were part of that, and they would just bring
me in because I had these gifts of My parents
did not want to know anything about it, but I had.
Like when baby number eight, there's nine kids, was born,
it was my job. I had all the I had
(06:23):
all the little mammy jobs. And I remember it was
her christening dinner and Mom made this huge feast and
she was baptized and she was in a nap and
I was sent back up to put her in a
christening outfit so I could bring her down a shower off.
Make sure you know she's after her nap. And I
was at the top of the stairs starting to walk
down the stairs, and I was already talking to angels
(06:44):
by then, and I heard this big voice say stop,
and I'm like, and then I saw a green light,
red light yo, like kind of a light sun, and
I was like, what's going on? And so I waited
and I waited and I waited, and I'm like, why
did I have to up? But I always listened to
what the angels told me to do. It was ten
and then I closed my eyes and I said, when
(07:05):
is it going to be a green light? And the
light turned green and I brought the baby all the
way down the stairs and everyone ooohed not over the baby.
So I'm walking here through the living room and then
I had to put her in a basinet, which I
had to walk across a bank of windows and put
her in the bacinet. The bank of windows was like
the dining room where everyone's going to eat. Well, all
(07:26):
my cousins and siblings were not playing baseball softball in
the sideyard, and I was kind of like, why am
I not out there playing? And just as I was
getting to the first bank, the first window of the
bank of windows, the ball comes crashing through the window,
glass spread everywhere and just missed me and the baby.
(07:47):
And I said to myself, I am never going to
ignore my angels ever. Always tell me good things. So
that was my total commitment to listening to my higher
guidance right there. My gosh, what a story. Yeah, thanks good.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, well I love the visual too, of the red light.
You can't get more obvious.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Now as a visual kid. I was a terrible reader
with a visual kid. Yeah, so I just think I needed,
like show me a sign and then I thought of
a signing. But you thinks, but it was so exciting.
I still get excited when I tell that story. Yeah,
but I couldn't tell a story to my aunts and
uncles and you just I just knew, and so I
kept it a secret for a long long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(08:37):
did do that right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I think I think we're educated out of it. I
mean as soon as you started as like, oh my gosh,
that's I didn't grow up Catholic. My parents did. But
it really was like, we don't talk about these things, right,
it's you know, that's a God thing, and you're not God,
and you don't have access to God. You connect to
(09:00):
somebody else who has access to God for you. So
even now, I remember this is recently within the last
i don't know, four years, three or four years, I
was playing with a pendulum with my son, just kind
of showing it like, oh, it's actually kind of science y,
you know, it's electro bagneta field and all that. And
my mom was like, we just.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Didn't want it.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So that's I love my mom. She's delightful. But yeah,
it's it's an instillment.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
There's a lot of hear around it. And you know,
there's a little piece of trivia that I learned not
that long ago spirit because I'm a Spiritualist minister. So
I met and I studied the Spiritualist tradition, follow it
and it's a nice to have a tradition, although I
break the rules all the time. But I found out
that when spiritualism first started in eighteen twenty seven or eighteen,
(09:51):
it just was huge. It was absolutely thousands and thousands
of people wanted to get on board with there's nothing
between me and God, and God is in spirit is
going to talk to me. I'm going to find out
about the you know, the ones that passed on the
other side, and the there was a lot of spiritual
growth that spiritualism brought people, and there was women's emancipation
(10:11):
within spiritualism. But anyway, the Catholic Church was so concerned
about losing its constituents losing its people. They weren't really
losing them, but they thought, we've got to make a rule.
So they said, if you are found to be partaking
in any of the spiritualists talking to the dead, you
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will be excommunicated. Now, that was in the early nineteen hundreds,
and it made spiritualism evil, and it was never seen
as evil until the jealous Catholics put their big you know,
put into it. So the fear that we have is
inbred in us from other sources, authority, sources that just
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want to scare the crap out out of us. Yeah,
and so we don't do if there's nothing between us
in God, there's nothing between us and the source, then
churches go out of business if they're not.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's business, isn't it. Yeah, Yeah, it's Oh gosh, you're
a wealth of information. I'm liking this. This is fun.
I love history stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
This is how I know I'm a nerd. Yeah. Thanks,
so it's.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Fun, it is, yay, fellow nerd.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
O good well, thank.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
You for all of that. I love that information in
the history and your story. And that's only a tiny
piece of it. I'm sure there's a lot more. Yeah,
can we I'd love to talk about the Akashic realm,
as I said before, but also specifics, like especially in
relation to things that have come up with with readings
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that I've done, and I'm like, i just have no
idea what I'm talking about. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Please.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
You know you can connect with a nacastic reader, but
I have. For example, here's here's one thing that comes
up pretty regularly. I can connect with folks guides, and
oftentimes a guide will identify themselves as an Akashak guide
or a Keeper or something, and I'm like, I don't
know what this means. What does that mean? And is
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that a thing?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I tell you? If you're getting information here, I'm the
Keeper guide. I'm the Acajak guide that you are connected,
strongly connected to the Ecajak records. I have to say this,
but Keeper is like a library in my experience, So okay,
there's lots of opinions. Keeper is the librarian in the
Akacak realm. Everything that has ever been created, that the
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creator has ever created is in this Acacic realm. It
kind of a library energytic library form, and the library
is intelligent, it's growing and learning. So a Keeper might
come in and say to you, here's the section of
the library I want you to go into. Here's where
I want you to be. May not be that literal,
but you're into a place of a soul alignment, or
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maybe you're reading for somebody who's having a soul appointment,
or and it heads up. Pay attention to this. This
isn't just your normal day, and so a keeper can
take you into the Akashic records, into the it's basically
the soul's information. Our souls create how I see, and
our souls create us rules as spirit, and our spirit
goes on forever, and our spirit passes back to heaven,
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but our souls in charge of that and our soul.
When they talk about soul groups, there will be many
spirits within a soul group that are trying to do
a certain thing. Maybe learn to love your neighbor, or
maybe learn to speak up, or learn to use your
creativity while you're alive, even though nobody agrees with you.
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So many soul messages and so a keeper is a
very special guide that is giving you very intense and
important information. And I just want to throw in the
fact too, that they're talking to who just like your mediumship.
You're talking to spirit, you're talking to a soul, you're
talking to guides, you're talking to intelligent beings that look
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over the Akashak records because it's so huge and it
feels vast. Yeah, it's a nice to have a guide.
And also there's a lot of secrets in the Acatac records.
There's a lot of I find that there is technology
in the Acacac records, and it's the records of everything
ever created since the creator started. There can be extraterrestrial
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stuff in the eContact records. There could be alien technology
in the records. There can be different cultures or different forms.
We're in a specific human form. I've done your past lives,
and all of a sudden, I'm on another planet with
another type of being, with a whole different set of
life expectancies, not not life long expected, but cultural. I
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guess you could call it life things. So you really
want to have a keeper and a guide that doesn't
that that keeps you focused in the present movement? Is
that kind of cool? Though? If you want to just
you could open up the records once you learn how
to open up the records. Specifically, there's a prayer and
a create your own prayer, or there's an energy that
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you need to have aligned be aligned with so that
you could enter the records of purpose. It's not just
an open you need the key, the energetic key. It's
not Willie Nelly, and you need to kind of be
the right mind and stuff. What am I trying to say?
So there is a everything you own, you can open
up the records of that. If you own a house,
you can open up the records of the land. But
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since we're you're a citizen of a certain company, company country,
you can open up the records of that country to
see where it's going or to see what admission of
the country is future enough fit future stuff as well
as present stuff as well as what's the you know,
is Germany on the right track? Where did Germany come from?
What was what was the root of Germany? Or the
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UK or Okay, But you need to be a member
of Like I couldn't open up your Acajak records, Willy nilly,
unless you said, Nancy, will you open up my records?
Be forbidden? And I tried to open up the records
of certain places through some historical research with somebody. She
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said can you open your records and find out about this?
And psychically I probably could have done fine, but the
records would not mean because I didn't have permission. Turns
out it was a battle scene, a site where a
lot of soldiers were buried. I think British soldiers up
in New England were just buried, hundreds of them in
a mass gray. So time goes on, you know, they
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forget about it, and then they build a little town
around it. And so this one particular house, this woman
had two small boys in the house and she kind
of I get the feeling that she kind of knew
but didn't want anyone to know, and she didn't want
her boys to be affected by any history like that,
that they were living a cup of a budget. I
don't know what was going on, but I had the
big no, and I said, I can't fight that. No,
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there needs to be some other kind of permission here
that I don't have. And I felt that if I
had gotten the owners, how the houseowner's permission, maybe we
could have gone a little bit further. But if this
is I'm just trying to show you the intensity of
the information and the respect that the records has. Four
people in the present moment.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
That sounds so ethical to me. I love it.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
They they are and respectful. Yeah, if I feel like
if you disrespect this energy, they'll just not be open
for you. You can get in and once get in twice,
then you misuse it, You're not going to get in again,
so then you start using your psychic abilities, which are
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just as powerful.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
But yeah, okay, ooh, I'd like to get into the
difference between those. But I have a question real quick
about sort of related. I have had an acashic record guide.
When I'm connecting with a person, I'm not actually intentional
about reading their records, it's just the guide shows up.
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But sometimes the person will have a question and the
guide will say, like, they won't show them. Oh, does
what does that mean? Just as blank, I know, I.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Don't like it when they won't give me the information.
I'm just just asked you that. What I do is
I think in my way that you just need to
ask the question differently, or there needs to be some
teaching before the information comes. Okay, And they're not, and
so they'll get the information, they'll make some badass story
up in their head about it, take it in a
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total different way and you've lost them. But if you
ask the guides what is the teaching or asking this
question they want to know about blah blah blah, and
you don't get anywhere. What is the teaching? What is
the less and what are they learning here? What do
they need to know? Now they will help them.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Oh, thank you for that. I'm like, I don't know,
it's just blank. They're not telling me the answer. I'm
so sorry.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It's fine. I think that's a perfectly legit answer. But
you can also say, if they're not telling me, then
maybe we need to come at it from another point
of view. Maybe there's an emotional issue. Maybe there's a psychologe.
When you're good at this, a psychological thing that if
you knew such and such, you you would just it'll
be Domino's effect to the time. Spirit is like freaking
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amazing in terms of understanding the psyche.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yes, they seem very protective.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, and they're protective people too. They don't want to
wreck people's heads or their life right right right?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, Yeah, that's what it feels like. And yet it's
quite frustrating for the person if they need this, you know, clarity,
But oh gosh, thank you for that tip. I appreciate that. Hey, everyone,
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future question in today's episode. I'd like to know about
folks connecting with their own or accessing their own records,
and you've written a book about that, so I'd love
to talk about that. But first, can we talk about
the difference between psychic tools or psychic awareness or skills,
and yeah, talk about that in mediumship.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
This first time i've heard this mediumship. And then and
then I'll expand is when you talk to a loved
one in spirit on the spirit side, you can connect
to them and they'll have a conversation with them. It's
an energy exchange depending on where your gifts are as
a medium and where your propensity is and so. But
you're getting the information from an intelligent b and if
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your work and you need to be psychic to kind
of do that. But if you're reading for somebody a
straight psychic reading, I'm not one hundred percent agreeing with this.
You're picking up stuff from their oric field in their
past and their future. You're not necessarily talking to their guides.
I'm a lousy psychic. I need to talk to the
guides and I need to talk to their soul or
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the loved one. But getting better at the psychic stuff.
But it's the information, it's the source of information, is
what the key here is for me. And I don't
have anything against psychic, but I also know that psychic
sometimes they'll learn the soul level learning, isn't there. Did
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you ever get a reading where somebody said you're this,
you're this, you're this, and then you have this, you
go yeah, you're right, Yeah, you're right. And then the
reading's over and they go home, and then you are like,
what do I do with all this information? There's been
no soul learning, there's been no development. The reader was
amazing and totally after Yeah, and that's where having a
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spiritual path, that's we're going to a soul of the
person or going to a guide or going to the
ecostic realm. What do they need to know right now
that's going to help them grow? Every time I do
a reading, my poor clients have to go home and
do homework. Yeah, I feel like, what are you doing this?
And oh yeah, it happens all the time. I said, well,
x y Z, your guides are telling me and could
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you take a look at that and cut it out?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
But not get off already.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
But I like the concept of hope that the soul
will give the person having their life. And we are
in a free will zone and we don't have to
listen to our angels or our souls or follow any
kind of life path if we don't want to. But
I found out something when I was really going into
writing this book and also teaching the Akashic Records and meditation.
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I realized, this is not written anywhere, that our soul's
plan is in the chakra right above our head. There's
two chakras. You don't mind me talking about this, right,
these chakras up here, and then then we have our
lower root chakra and are not our solar plexus. I
think it includes but our sacred chakra. And that's a
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lot of unconscio stuff happens down in those two chakras
as far as I'm concerned, And your soul's plan is
embedded in those lower chakras. So no matter what you
choose to do in your life, and if you want
to live your life totally unconsciously, and that's perfectly fine,
you will still do your soul's plan because it's written
in your personality and it's written in some of the
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belief systems that you come in with. And then your
parents are not randomly picked. You picked your parents. So
you'll still do your soul's journey, whether you're aware of
it or not. And I thought that was when I
was asking the records about that. I was asking when guys,
I said, that's kind of a cool plan, so I
don't have to worry so much. That's right, you don't
have to worry so much. But do follow you know
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your heart, do follow your guidance. It'll be easier.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, yes, yeah, it'll feel aligned. Less bumpy or not
that bumps don't exist, but it's like we ride the
waves a little bit easier.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
More understand that the flow of You know, there's all
the natural laws and there's all the things and how
life works, but you have your own version of how
life works, and you have your own universe within yourself
and you got to respect that. In my opinion, you
respect that and you don't try to, Oh that's an ego,
let's shoot it dead. No, that's not going to work.
But what you want to do is integrate what Here's
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another big thing that I learned from working with my
soul in the Kashak realm is they want to know
what you're going through. They want to know the hangnails,
they want to know the things that the big hiccups
because they're learning from them. It's it's they're not feeding
off of it, but they're they're learning. They're they're learning
how to guide you. But they're also member I said,
the souls.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Have a.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Thing they want to learn. Yeah, you have a lesson
they want to learn, or an experience that they want
to have, And so you're kind of doing.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
That and you're giving the data. You're the front line
giving the data back walkie talking. Okay, here's what it is.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
That was a really bad idea. I don't know I'll
start do that again. But if we can allow ourselves
to have that exchange and don't hide what you think
you're embarrassed about, but be honest with spirit. This is
you know, I am so jealous of her, and I
don't understand why you gave her that. You didn't give
this to me. So then your spirit can say, your
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soul can say to your spirit, let's work on jealousy,
let's work on self love kind of thing. But if
you don't share those things in your spiritual path and
you won't have that guidance, you won't have that help. Yeah, yeah,
will you won't. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
It feels really this is just a side note, but
when I've connected with guides and even loved ones who
have passed on, there's literally no judgment at all about
this kind of stuff. There's nothing. It's like this is beautiful.
Keep screwing up. It's how you learn. It's great, you
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got time. I know.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
There's just so much love yeah from them. If we
could only live that in our day to day lives.
I have hard time living in my day to day life.
I just I'm just annoyed or this happened or that happened.
And how come this actor feels so high and I
really have to remember to go back to that.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, welcome to being human, right right, it's a it's
a tough school. Well, I'm wondering about this too, as
a as a foreshadowed before folks being able to access
the records or the Kashak realm. I don't even know
what phrase you would use themselves. Yeah, he wrote, can
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you say what your book is?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Well, it's I'll hold it up, s hold it up.
It's divine. Yeah, it's here. It is. It's called Divine
Love Affair and a Kashak Journey on a nails Award.
I don't know if it's very exciting, but this book
is how to what the Akashak records are, what the
Kashak field is, to love a god, the creators creative energy,
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and then how to access it. And then there's lots
of ways to access the econtric records. And I also
have a on purpose prayer, ritual prayer and here to
access the econtoic records. And how I so what are they?
What is it? It's the creator's energy, it's Heaven, it's
and and there's all the libraries for all the things
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the creators ever created. And then it's your there's your
personal library of what you came here to do. And
inside your own temple are your talents, your soul's dream
for your life. Now, your soul contracts that you brought
in that aren't necessarily working, your agreements that you made
that are off base. They're in there. You could read
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in your soul agreement or your sol contract book. It's
working for me. Why isn't this working. We can get
rid of this now, you know, or we can redefine it.
Or I was supposed to be doing this and I
thought it was this over here, It could be clarifying.
You don't have to worry about the big these things
over here, they're just getting in your way. This is
the real meat of it. Kind of I feel like
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when I go into and everyone's different. When I go
into the Akashak records. I get a lot of healing stuff.
I get a lot of belief system stuff, a lot
of thought stuff, and the revealing gifts that you didn't
know you had. That's one of my favorite things that
I do like to do for myself is I want
to do something where in the Akashak records mind or somebody,
you know, the realm, where's the good math thing. I'm
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having trouble balancing my check book. I want to go
and you know, have that exchange. So there's there's learning.
Is that? Do you tell the story about Dimitri Mendela
the chemistry periodical table with all the temporal chemistry. Yeah, yeah,
he had Back in his day, there were a lot
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of earth elements and he wanted to organize him because
he knew intuitably or he knew intellectually that there was
a relationship between them all and he was working and
working and working on it, but it wasn't coming together
the way he perceived that it should come together. So
at one point he wanted this so bad and he
would work and be you know, no not to sleep,
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just work through the night. And one time he had
some big appointments, so he worked through the night and
he didn't quite get it, and he was half asleep.
He went into it. You know, you have a sleep
you kind of like turns like, you know. And then
all of his cards and pieces of paper lifted up
off the table and reorganized themselves into a table, and
there were a lot of blank boxes on that table
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as well. So he wrote it up and today that
periodic table still exists and all the boxes are filled
in exactly the right place. Oh my god, that's the
akashak realm. That head. So you want to design at
a really good electric car that or hydro or whatever.
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Just called the cut records and just meditate with it. Fine,
w wow. I don't think I could do a science
thing because I'm not science minded. But there have been
times when I've had things when I tried to understand, well,
somebody struggling with something and they didn't know what to do.
That's that's my gift, to go into the records and
to say yes, oh no, this person.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, and you're an artist, yeah, do the artist art
comes from there?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yes, I call it. I do this thing. I want
to tell you, can tell you a story. It just
happened yesterday. I was so excited. This is what I
was learning. I do what I call soul art. So
in mediumship, I learned early on that I could draw
people's faces, and sometimes they always wished I could do that.
It's so cool. And then I found out after a
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little while that I could draw the last face somebody
saw when I was doing some crime stuff. And then
I didn't want to do that, but it was like
what this woman. I drew it, and then she pulled
out the newspaper article and they were skitting. And that
was from the accussion, I swear. And then so I
started to do what I call soul drawings, where I
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just take my pastels and I just stack home crazy
on a page, or I'll see an image and I'll
just draw this abstract image or whatever, and then I'll
get the information you need this color to heal. But
this is going to happen over here, and this was
what this means. And it just comes out of me,
flying from my pastels and from my mouth. And this
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woman called me and left the voicemail. She goes, I
want to talk to you about a drawing you did
from my mother, and I said, oh, no, here we go.
I was know it's one of those. So we did
phone tag and finally we talked last night and she says,
this just happened. This just happened. Yeah, this is fresh
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off of the you know, and she says, you you're drawing.
You predicted my mother's death and I don't predict anybody's deaths.
I was like, God, what happened. She says, Well, you
did hurt this drawing. And it was this blue sky
and this was this march. She lived on a marsh
and you kept telling her her light was going to
be bright and this guy, you know, like blue skies
literally and she had just left a bunch of friends
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and they were very painful relationship and she finally ended
it and then she was going to retire, so she
stayed figure she they figured out that this session was
talking about her retirement. And this was just a few
months ago. And she showed it to her daughter who
lived in Colorado when she lived in New England, and
so she loved the drawing. She was so excited. Her
mother was so excited about the reading. Well, she just
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passed away a week ago and she flew in from
Colorado and saw the drawing again and she realized you
drew my mother's heaven. You drew heaven. This is where
she is right now. And she said, I never believed
in heaven. I never knew what any of that meant,
she said, But when I look at this drawing, I
know she's okay and she's happy and it's beautiful, all
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the tears. It was amazing because I couldn't have done that,
you know what I mean, this is no way. She's
kind of just greeving, deeply grieving. And she said, it's
helping me. Not that I helped her, but the spirit
gave them vision. And plus guess what we got a
little snapshadow of what heaven looks like. Good. Yeah, I know,
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I want to see it, I said. I did a like,
I did ten drawings that day. Can you send it
to me? I don't know which one it is. Oh,
and I can't wait to get it.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Oh my gosh, that's what a lovely story.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah. And that's the wisdom of spirit, and that's the
wisdom of Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
So you're saying folks can use whatever, really they are. Oh,
this is interesting because I was just it's is gonna
sound very earth bounty, But I was just at the
gym with with my boyfriend this morning and he was saying,
you know, I just we were talking as we were
living and he's like, I just feel like he's a drummer.
He's like, I just feel like I need to get
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into that state and click record play for like ten
to fifteen minutes, because that's when I know I'm in
that flow state. And I wonder if that's where he is,
he's accessing you know what flow is.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, it's that he is totally and he could set
the intention and just and then go let it, let
it go. He could, and since he knows how to
do it with the drums, he could do it on
anything he needs to solve. Get into that full stage
and then attempt to do the thing that you're struggling with. Right,
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And it's wanzing how like Domino's, things could fall into
place or something will introduce itself. That that's why you're
having trouble because you need to do this other thing
that needs to come in.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Okay, But I was going to generalize that to whatever
skills anybody owns, right, So somebody who is a scientist,
periodic table, right, an artist, a drummer, whatever. I think
that that's beautiful a beautiful way to look at it.
And so you give specific ways in your book for
people to be able to access.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, and some stories in there too, and then some
healing how to. The biggest most asked question is am
I just making this up? Is this? How do I know? Yeah?
It's real? Oh yeh, that's so big. Yeah, it's huge.
So we do a lot of work in this book
around that, to understand when your mind is telling you something,
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when your fear is telling you, when your intuition is
talking to you, and how to kind of set some
of the worries aside and get in and trust that
intuitive voice. I do a program called the Five Languages
of your Soul where how you can step out of
or how can you actually can use your mind, your
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busy mind to shift and get information from it. I have,
I have tools for mind mapping. One of my what
is this what is this energy really telling me? Where
can I go with it? And I teach also that
once something is observed, it changes. Once something is observed
in sacred space, when you can open up to the records,
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you can open up to that higher flow that when
you observe your fears, they will shift, they will grow
to their higher octave. What they here's what you're really
afraid of, but you can't admit it to yourself just yet.
So but the the healing presence of the akashak Realm
records or God will will help you grow out of
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that fear that's been there for years and years.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Wow, so much healing to be done? Then, so much healing?
How so listeners or watchers on YouTube, how do they
know to go to you to get a reading versus
attempting to do this on their own? Is there some
idea or a rule or theme around it, or.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
What do you do? Well? I think sometimes it's helpful
to have somebody that you trust, like most people trust me,
not everybody, but have somebody that you resonate with that
will help you take you to a higher place or
help you move out of where you are, and that
can be the catalyst. But most of it is your
own work on your own. Okay. So we you know,
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like I said, the reading, the person that gave the
reading and gave this all this information, and then the
person left and said, I don't want to do with
any of this. They need the tools to know what
to do with this, but they still have to do
the work, so I guess you can't. I want to
get a cheat sheet where I didn't have to do
some of the work I gotta do, but I have
to do it.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
But yeah, but cheat cheat cliff the cliff notes.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, so you would use the cliff Notes. You would
use a reader at the Kashak Realm as a guy, yea,
a guide here earth Bule guide or somebody who'd help
you move through something or step over something that I
didn't even know that was a And so we both
you need to do both, not either or so how
do you know? You need to see if somebody if
you're going around and around around circles and you've got stuck
(39:07):
energy and it's just just not moving.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Okay, yeah, okay, that's a great just a guidepost for
folks to Okay, I'm feeling like I'm spinning. I'm going
to go see Nancy.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
That's great. And I help mentorship programs too. Sometimes I'll
get a one off session and we'll well, yeah, so
we got this, we got this, and then when I
admit that they really didn't get it. So I offer
like the six free six sessions and twelve sessions and
six months worths of sessions where we can look at
one topic, or we can work on a behavior structure
(39:42):
that you want to change. I'm not a therapist, but
I'll take you to your soul and I'll take you
to that energy and we'll work from there. Yeah. But
people combined therapy and psyche, the psyche soul work. Yeah,
so yeah, and I think that's great. I know, and honestly,
I have found that.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
And this is probably my colleagues are probably like, but
I have found that spiritual work. I can't legally call
it therapeutic, but dang if it's not therapeutic, I mean
it's so deep and rich and creates so much loving,
compassionate change for someone, I don't how can that not
be therapy. But anyway, I'll just yeah, I'll call it
(40:29):
that privately.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yeah, I don't. Yeah, what is I've had people come
and I don't and they said, I was been working
on this in therapy for years. You just got me
to the next stage. I said, good, Then take it
back to your therapist and keep working in it. You know.
But if people are struggling with deep depression, I'll be
happy to work with you, but you have to have
(40:52):
a therapist that that can take you if something really
goes away, I can't.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, it's not either or it's definite. A beautiful combination
to have those those both of those guides.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Really so Shamanism. I just want to jump in. Shamas
and has a lot of soul work. And I swear
the Shamans they're working from the yakashak round different way
they're identifying it.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, they do amazing work. And that's there's actually a
type of therapy called internal Family Systems that is very
much like shamanism. When I heard about it, I was like,
this sounds exactly like shamanism to me.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
It's like, this is awesome.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
And it turns out the creator of internal ifs, this
is what he was hoping to do, is create more
spiritual connection in the in within, you know, evidence based psychotherapy,
which I think we're getting there. We're getting closer all
the time.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
So it's wonderful. There's a little bit of that in
my book. I call it Voices Within is a little
bit and that's when that voice can't get out of
this suck, you put it into sacred space and you
have conference.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
I love it. I love that so much. Yes, it's wonderful,
my gosh. And this is only listeners and watchers a
snapshot of what Nancy does. Like a little snapshot. You
have a you have a podcast yourself that's over two
hundred episodes. There's lots of I'm sure this information there.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Please say what it's called angel Scapes. It might my
website angel Scapes out net, so I call it the
podcast angel Scapes, but it's it's out there. You can
it's a YouTube channel and you can. It's also a
on my website. Any in any event, I try to
do little tiny trainings or or talked to people who
are doing something like a homeopathic person and are got
(42:44):
a bunch of mediums or animal communicator, astrology, so you
can start to pull all these pieces that are available
to you into your life and have them be make
sense as opposed to a whole big Schmargus board that
you just don't know how to connect. But if you
can take the training anyway, that's what my goal is.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
On the podcast, thank you, I'm subscribing. Yay, everyone follow me.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Good stuff.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Oh my goodness, Nancy, thank you so so much for
being here today. On the Reluctant Medium, I appreciate you
and your wisdom, and I'm subscribe to your podcast and
intentionally even booking and reading and sometime in the future
it would be.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Awesome, wonderful. Thank you for having me on. I hope
I gave you enough information to start peeling away the
mystery of the Akasha yea.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
And yeah, it's just the start. I'm sure I want
to I want to dive deeper. I just think it's
fascinating stuff. So any interest in coming back, like, oh,
sure time, that would be awesome.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Oh, be awesome. I would love to come back. We
could talk. I spose we could just talk for hours.
Just yeah, yeah, but definitely if you if you enjoyed this,
I would.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
It's such good stuff.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Thank you so much, thank you so welcome.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Thank you for joining the Reluctant Medium podcast today. I
hope that this episode has brought you beautiful high vibration
and that it continues emanating from your heart space for
the rest of the day and beyond. Don't forget to
join the Reluctant Medium on Patreon dot com, and you
can also visit the Reluctantmedium dot us and the Reluctant
(44:25):
Medium TV show on New Reality tv dot com. Until
next time, my friend, May you be well.
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