From Rock n’ Roll to Spirit Medium: The Mystical Experiences of Daniel Jackson

In this episode of the Reluctant Medium Podcast, host Dr. Maria Rothenburger welcomes fellow medium Daniel Jackson, who shares his journey from experiencing unexplained phenomena to embracing his abilities as a medium. Daniel recounts his childhood experiences with spirit sightings in his home in New Jersey and discusses how these encounters have shaped his life. He explains how he identifies and helps spirits transition into the light and sheds light on his unique abilities to interact with archangels and see into other dimensions. Additionally, Daniel and Dr. Maria discuss the importance of positive energy, the role of free will in the spiritual realm, and debunk some common misconceptions about spirituality. This fascinating conversation provides deep insights into the world of mediumship and spiritual communication. Note: Daniels opinions and experiences are his own and don’t necessarily reflect the opinions of the show.



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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Like even when I was playing in the band, I
came home. This is I was in my twenties, like
twenty two or twenty three. I came home and I'd
laid down in bed from a gig, and when something
laid down next to me, And this happened like three
or four times, and I'd roll over see what was there.
I could feel that I'd see the pillow just squished
down and a whole bed would move, And like the
fifth time I rolled over to see what was there,

(00:21):
and whatever it was there picked up the blanket that
I had on top of me and brought it up
to the ceiling and it shook it over top of
me and then had dropped it on top of me.
And then for two years after that, I slept on
the couch downstairs with those joke. Mike, you wouldn't blue.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Welcome to the Reluctant Medium, where we covered the gamut
of out there conversations with an open mind and a
curious heart. We want to talk about it all, from
psychic phenomenon energy medicine, to beings from other star systems
and out of body experiences. You'll find a great balance
between grounded, science backed topics and others that science hasn't

(00:54):
quite caught up to you yet. I'm your host, doctor
Maria Rothenberger, a psychotherapist by trade and a reluctant spirit
baby communicator. And hey, even though I'm a medium, I'm
not buying everything folks are selling. I just have a
voracious appetite to know more about what I call the
world of the weird. Join us on your favorite podcast
platform or watch on YouTube at the Reluctant Medium. I'll

(01:17):
see you there. Hey, everyone, welcome back to the Reluctant
Medium podcast. I'm doctor Maria Rothenberger, your host for the podcast,
and I've got a fellow medium here today, but he's
not reluctant apparently, Daniel Jackson. Welcome, Welcome, my friend.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I am. I am not reluctant by any means. If
that's your thing, if that's your stick, you go ahead
with it.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
But itakes my stick.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
I'm too blunt to be to be that kind of reluctant.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yes, well, we are going to talk about you. Unlike me,
you are someone who never doesn't see spirit, like say, right,
especially when you well, you started when you were young.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, yeah, ever since I was three years old, I've
seen him, but my whole family was seeing him. We
lived in New Jersey, as we were just discussing a
little bit, and I lived right next to the Dellare River,
and this is where there was a park there with
a Hessian spot, and they had a little hospital there
right in our town. But a lot of people in
that area were experiencing things as well as we were.
But to the point, like when my sister was getting

(02:24):
ready for school one morning and my mom was helping
to get ready, and that they stood in front of
a four month mirror and when I did, there was
another woman standing in it in a colonial outfit.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yes, those types of things were glasses moving. And like
my brothers and I were down started watching TV and
upstairs the living room radio stereo system turned on, and
so my brother sent us upstairs to turn it off,
and we did. We ran upstairs and turned it off.
Or like when I remember I had my sister's stereo

(02:56):
system upstairs in her room turned on, but it was records.
But it's the crazy part for me was it was
switching records, so it would take a record off. You know,
back in the seventies you had to put that record
on a post, so it would take a record off
and put another one on, and me and my brother said,
you guys got to go upstairs and turn it off.
So and turned it off, and then we're jumping downstairs

(03:19):
to get back downstairs, hoping in my view of that,
my brother would, you know, make me feel safe, But
he acted like nothing ever happened by the time I
got back.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Oh fascinating. Okay, so your entire family experienced these things,
but it was just like, oh, or was or was
there fear?

Speaker 1 (03:36):
No, there was no fear. I didn't feel any fear
as a child because my parents and my brothers and
sister made me feel like, don't worry about it. Everything's
okay because they never really did anything that was harmful
towards us, okay, anything like that. It was just they
were doing with most po their spirit. Do they got
our attention?

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Now? I I see things in my mind's eye. Do
you see things with your physical eyes?

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yes? I see them walking around. I see them. Sometimes
I'll see full figures walking around. Sometimes I'll see what
you would see outside in the summertime, where you see
like a heat signature coming off the Yes, I see
that right in the middle of the house. But yeah,
I see, like when I do close up readings for people,
I can turn them. I can. I don't actually have

(04:22):
to just turn them around, but I can look inside
of them, and I can see their soul inside of them.
Oh my gosh, it doesn't look like them though. It
looks like you the last time you were here, that's all.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
It looked like me the last time I was here.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, yeah, don't don't worry that the last time, even
the previous time from this one, you were a woman.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Oh I was.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
There's been seven times that you've been a man. So
so as I'm moving my head like that, I'm asking
questions and they and my guys physically touched my face
for yes and no answers. So it happens. It happens
that that so, but then they also put information into
my mind, and that even just changed recently too. Like
in the beginning they I put information in my mind

(05:01):
like five percent of my day, and as of just
a couple of days ago, now it's ninety three percent.
It has progressed that much.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
So So am I am I down for reading today?

Speaker 1 (05:12):
WHOA You can ask whatever question you want and I
will get the answer. But I always tell everybody, people
come to me because they want an answer from God,
and I get the answer. But they don't always like
that answer because they don't like the truth. That's not
my problem.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh no, we're good with truth over here, we're good
with truth.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah. So, but I communicate with arch angels, not men
with wings and shield by any means. They are not that.
They don't look like that. They don't look like a
man with wings and a shield and the sword. Michael
does not look like that. Michael is not that Michael does.
He will put out this purple light and stuff. I
got to make the regular Joe, average shoe feel secure

(05:48):
about that. But if the average show actually saw what
Michael looked like, or a Gabriel, rafaelo Uriel, these other names,
these are just names that we give them that we
can recognize them by. But that's not their real names
because we can't pronounce their real names because we have
a voice box and they communicate this way. But what
they look like. If you saw what they look like,
you'd run, you'd think monster. But I know what they

(06:09):
are and what they do and what they do for
me and do for everyone else. But yeah, that's who
I communicate with.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Are you an artist by chance? Are you able to
draw them?

Speaker 1 (06:17):
No? But I could tell you what they I could
absolutely tell you what they look like.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
I've often wished I was an artist and I could
draw things. I would love to know what they look like.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
It feels like if you saw them. When I said,
most of the archangels I see around me look like
eight foot prematosis. Also, archangel Michael looks like a combination
of a moose and a horse. He's got a wide head.
He doesn't have antlers, but he's got this big, wide
head of floppy ears. He's got these big brownish reddish

(06:45):
looking eyes, but very dark fur all over him. And
then his body is long like horse like body, but
very short hair. Oh my god, it doesn't look like
what you think.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
And how do they identify themselves to you?

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I by again, by touch, I see, Okay. So I
get touches all the time, and sometimes I got a
new touch. And when I got a new touch, they
will tell me a name that goes along with that
as well.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Okay, And you hear it abutely.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
It's absolutely another voice but also a part of me
as well as my own thoughts, so to the point
now that I still will check with them and say,
did you just say that? But thought comes into my
mind even though it feels like it's mine, I know
it's not right.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Right never, I'm so glad that you mentioned the we
can't pronounce because I've had a few not arc angels,
but angels try to convey a name to me and
it's like I can't.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
It's like yeah, sure, well yeah, well even their their
names are more like a more of a sound vibration thing,
and that's why we cannot. We cannot.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
That's their name so validated right now, Daniel, thank you,
so you're welcome such a newbie to this mediumship thing.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I am, I mean I am as well. I didn't
know I was a medium until almost yeah, eight and
a half years ago. No way, okay, Richie Porter, I
was starting fifty years old. I'm fifty eight now, oh
my god. Remember, but yeah, but this happened. I've had this,
you know again. I've seen spirit my entire life, and
I've heard things, and I smell things a lot, and

(08:29):
sometimes something comes through and it comes to there's a taste,
and I the taste part you don't want that that's
that's that's usually the negative energies because I don't just
see good ones. I see everything. Yeah, I see everything.
We see people, dogs, catch horses, cowspish, other beings from
other worlds. We're going to see other dimensions.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
I yeah, everything, We're we are definitely going to get
to that because I I am I'm curious. Two part
it might be except I have to end this three
D world has time, which so annoying. But I would
love to because I don't find that I connect with
negative energies as much one time I did. But I'm

(09:10):
curious about folks who do connect with them, slash, work
with them, etcetera. I'd love to know, But I want
to start with before this. So you're a kid, You're
seeing things, your family's seeing things, and it was just
kind of.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
How how it was.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
You didn't know that you were I medium, but that
didn't stop for you. You continued seeing spirits and things. Did
you ever do anything with it? Like was it a
fun party trick or like what?

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Ha? No? But people, I had a friend who was
moving into a new apartment and he has something going
on in that apartment, and he called me up and
asked me if I would come over and take a
look around for him. So people more or less relied
on me because I would I would sense things, but
unknowingly again, didn't know I was a medium. I was

(09:56):
just I could pick up on things, I mean. But
the only other thing other than that was I was
great for telling great ghost stories because I had a lot.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Of them, Yes, for sure.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Now I have them every day.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yes, a lot, a lot more to thousands and thousands
of stories, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah. For me, it's like being in a room with
a thousand people, except no one leaves and more just
keep coming in. And that's efter a single day in
my life. Oh my gosh, it turns off and never
goes to wark.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Are you an extrovert?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well maybe I was an artist. Well, I used to
play drums in a rock band, that's right. I had
big hair, and I had wore zebra stripes fand X.
I thought it was cool. Maybe not so much, but yeah,
that was back in the eighties. But yeah, I can't
do it anymore because I'm physically not able to do it.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
But yeah, yeah, all right, So you people knew this
about you. They knew that you could see spirits. They
knew that you could detect what's there. Did you ever
directly work with spirits?

Speaker 1 (10:51):
No, not at that point. Okay, No, I just had
a lot of a lot of stories because I had
a lot of instances, so that would happen to me
or around me. Yeah, Like even when I was playing
in the band, I came home. This is I was
in my twenties, like twenty two twenty three. I came
home and I'd laid down in bed from a gig,
and when something laid down next to me, and this
happened like three or four times, and I'd roll over

(11:13):
to see what was there, and I could feel that
I'd see the pillow just squished down and the whole
bed would move, And like the fifth time I rolled
over to see what was there, and whatever it was
there picked up the blanket that I had on top
of me and brought it up to the ceiling and
shook it over top of me and then had dropped
it on top of me. And then for two years
after that, I slept on the couch downstairs because I
was like, you wouldn't believe.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
That was scary to you, Okay, So could you could
sense that that is maybe a malevolent kind of energy
or no, okay, it.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Was just trying to get my attention. It was, but
it wasn't attention that I cared for at the moment. Nope, No,
you don't want to do that, especially when you're trying
to sleep. But I would also there was one time
I was in my grandfather to live with my mom
and dad and I and he was away for two
weeks with my uncle. And then I was laying in
his room looking at old pictures of my grandmother who
had passed away two years prior to that, and I

(12:06):
kept hearing a noise and I kept laying sitting up,
looking around seeing what was there, and there was nothing there.
And then one time I got I sat up, and
when I did, my grandma was in the in the chair,
rocking chair, rocking back and forth. Oh you can see.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Oh my gosh, that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
She saw me. When she saw me, her eyes got
real big in the she disappeared.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Oh oh interesting.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Okay, yeah, But I mean sometimes I see him full
figured like that, and sometimes I just see energy or
other I would say globs of energy. My girlfriend at
the time was we were watching TV and she was
at the end of the bed, and I was watching
from the from the headboard part of it. And as

(12:53):
we were watching TV, something about maybe four three four
feet long, maybe about two feet wide snaked its out
of the closet and came across the room and then
got all the way across the room and then disappeared.
And then she turned around me and said, did you
see that? And I said, oh, let's get the heck
out of here. So oh she saw it too, yeah,
oh yeah. But even now, people witnessed things around me

(13:15):
all the time, specifically that are happening around me, like
I've been on other podcasts or other shows, and they'll
see something a little ball of energy go around right
into my head and disappear, or flying around me all
the time, or they see flashes of light go up
around me. That's a different story that would take me
a chunk of time to tell you. But it has
to do with the reason why I am who I am,

(13:37):
what I have, the connection that I have everything, okay,
why I see everything that I see?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Okay, And you have since you were little, So I
wonder if those balls are light and everything have been
around you since three or so.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
But uh, it's been with me my So even when
I was finding out I was a medium, I had
a paranormal group come over to my house because we
were having so much come around me. I was seeing
greeny red mists pouring out of the walls, and skeletons,
seven foot skeletons walking around the house, and skulls coming
out of the walls with the red eyes and things

(14:10):
and all kinds of stuff and clouds around me all
the time. My wife was seeing clouds around me all
the time. And when these people came over, they did
they took some pictures of me, like digital photos of me,
and they take a picture of me next to somebody
or somebody else in the house. And when this was
all going on, and every time they took a picture

(14:30):
of me, I had fifteen or twenty later words completely
surrounding me. If it was somebody else by themselves nothing.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Wow, that is fascinating. I love when science can validate
that way.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Oh yeah, they turned on that voice box thing. They
called it an obulus. They had me pretending to sleep
in my room because so much happened in my bedroom,
so I was laying in there and they turned on
the box and then as soon as they turned on
the box, it started spitting out words. It said Wendy, Michael,
Paul Helen, Unique Special Light Energy. One time it said
the word road like a street. It said road. When

(15:05):
it did that, a car went, that's the house. And
then they were asking questions. But they asked questions for
ten minutes, and through those ten minutes, every time they
asked the question, it immediately answered. But the thing was
as like one of the questions they asked, they said,
are you here to harm Daniel? And then that computer
voice cut through. He said, no, we are not here

(15:25):
to harm Daniel. We love Daniel, We love Daniel's light.
Daniel is the light. When it said Daniel's the light,
that's when I was freaking out because I was like,
what that's going on here. But when they got done
that session, they went outside of the room, and then
I got up and went out, and then they were
all huddled up and I said to him, I said,
my wife was going on. She's like, I don't know
something important. So they turned around and I was like,

(15:46):
I was excited because these people were here witnessing what
my wife and I were now witnessing, and it validated
the fact that my wife and I were not crazy. Yes,
because there was so much going on it would drive
you crazy again. But so and then I said, so
you got all that right, that was great. You heard
all that. And they're like, well, yeah, mister Jackson, but

(16:08):
there's an issue. And I was like issue. There wasn't
anything wrong with it, wasn't anything bad. He said, no,
it's not that. But whenever we use this box, we
turn it on, we can get it to say a
word or two. I said, yeah, he said, oh, it
never says sentences. Yeah, and it doesn't say sentences for
ten minutes straight. We got to figure this out. So yeah,

(16:31):
I mean, I get it. But I never heard from
them ever again because apparently by the time they got
on my front home when they were leaving, they broke up.
I tried to get a hold of them, and the
guy said, we don't get that kind of information from
one home. It takes ten or fifteen homes to get
that kind of information. So yeah, I said, when you're
coming back, he said, we're not coming back. He said,
I said, how about you? He said, now, I don't

(16:51):
feel comfortable coming in your home. But wow, I mean,
but they taught me a bunch of stuff. It is
just not real either, like, oh, well, you know, put
some salt around the room. You know what that does?
It makes your room salty? Okay? Or here he gave
me this bottle of water. I said that, he goes,
Oh it's hotly warriing. You know what that is? Water?
You can't blessed water, No one can, okay. Or don't

(17:14):
put crosses up. I mean the cross I mean, I'll
say it. You know, the cross is a form of punishment.
It just is. You know, he didn't he didn't ask
to be on it. That they they he wasn't the
first beyond it or the last to be on it.
So they usually as a form of punishment. How are
you going to make such a negative go away with
a form of punishment you're not.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, but I'm curious about why. I'm curious why they
thought your home needed to be blessed or you needed
to be protected. This sounds very benign.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
They love m Hm. You just said the word correct. Yeah,
that's why I see everything because I'm the light.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
I wonder why they thought that you needed protection.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
That's so odd because I have everything around me hm hmm.
Not everything is good.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Oh, okay, okay, so they detected perhaps some not good things,
which is where I'd like to go. But first, But first,
can we talk about eight years ago? Yeah, when you
decided or you are, you realized I'm a medium? What happened?

Speaker 1 (18:21):
I didn't even realize that. After the episode with those people,
I was searching. I was searching for answers, you know.
I was going out and trying to find an answer.
Even like the basis of my book is, you know,
if you're going through something in your life that you
can't figure out, even if it's not something like me
or you being a medium, if you're having any problem,
go out and find your people. So that's what I did.

(18:44):
I went out and tried to find some people who
could give me some answers. I ended up talking to
five mediums. None of them knew each other, but everyone
of them told me the same story about me. It
was one of them in particular. When I went to her,
she said she wanted me to come to her show.
She said, I need to come to my show because
I want you to see how I do it. I
was like, do what I mean? I was just a

(19:04):
guy who saw ghosts all day long. I mean, what
are you going to show me? So I went to
the show. My wife and I walked in the door.
There was about fifty sixty people in there. And when
we walked in the door, she was standing on the
stage talking to people and she just went like this
and then watched me go through the room and sit

(19:25):
down in the chair. And my wife looks at me
and says, that was creepy. And I said, yeah, I
don't know what's up with that. And she said, did
you tell her you were coming? I said no, I said,
I just I said I was going to come, but
I just bought tickets and here we are, you know.
So she doesn't know it's coming to this show. So
she ends up telling everybody how she does everything, and

(19:47):
then she instructs the crowd to do certain things, you
know know, cross her legs on, cross her arms. That
stuff doesn't make a difference. Energy is energy. It's going
to come through, okay, yeah, yeah, and so and then
she ends up reading eight people in the room, one
of them being me. She told me about a guy
who came through who fell down and that's the way
he passed away. And he wore business suits and plannel

(20:09):
shirts during the day and at home and and someone
else had to make the big decision for him to
pass away. And he went by the name his name
is Robert, but he goes by the name Bob. And
I said, she didn't pick me out specifically, She was
just saying, does anybody have that? And I said yeah,
I said, my name is Daniel Jackson and my dad's

(20:31):
name is Robert, but he goes by Bob. He wears
Planel shirts and T shirts, but he does wear a
business suit. He did fall down. That was the basis
of how he died. When he fell down, was going
up with pledgere steps and that moved his brainstand when
he hit. And then someone else did have to pull
the plug. And she said, who's Sarah And I said, oh,
my niece. She said, no, Sarah, the one who had
to pull the make the big decision to pull the plug.

(20:52):
I said, oh, that's my mom. Her name is Joan,
her middle name is Sarah. So at that point I
knew this was this is really take place. But it
was at the end that I went down and I
introduced myself to her, and she said, oh, you're the
guy talks on the phone. The other couple of I said, yeah,
it's me and she said then she talked to me
like I'm seven years old and I'm a kid in

(21:14):
the class. And she says, don't move, don't go anywhere,
stay here, wait till everybody leaves you and I need
to have a talk. And I was like, oh crap,
you know, I mean, what did I do? You know?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
So trouble.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, I'm in trouble. But she said to me, she says,
I know you have an ability to see spirit. She said,
but I said, and I said the same thing. I said, Ladies,
like being in a room of a thousand people, nobody
leaved and were just keep coming in. And she was
like yeah, but there's a reason why. And I was like,
what do you mean. She said, oh, they're coming to you.
I said, why would they be coming to me? She said, oh,

(21:47):
because they when and as I know, when spirit sees you,
they don't see your full body. They see your frame
and they see a late side of you. Okay, And
when they see that light inside of you, that's your soul. Okay.
Some of us have a soul that's than others. And
once I have a brighter soul, other souls know that
they can communicate with those. That's why we're mediums. Okay,
but we're mediums because God gave us this. Okay, pretty simple,

(22:10):
but not everybody could get it because, as I always
tell everyone, some of us are just meant to be teachers.
Others are just meant to be students. You either have
this or you don't. You're not going to school, you're
not going to college. You're not going to take a
class or an intuition class and automatically think you're going
to become a psychic medium. It doesn't work that way.
You have an ability because you were born with it,
but you don't have an ability to be a psychic medium. Okay,

(22:31):
you can use it a little bit, but you're not
just got to go, oh, psychic medium. No, it doesn't
work that way. You are chosen for this. So so
she says, they're coming to you, and that's why you're
seeing so many. She said, I saw you coming to
the room. She said, I could feel you on the
outside of the room, and when you walked into the room,
I see you like they see you. And I was like,

(22:55):
what do you mean by that? She said, I don't
see it, buddy. All I see is like you look
like a a figure of a human, but you're just
pure white light, like looking at a light bulb that's
walking and has her head and legs, but you're just
solid white. She said. I said, okay, she said, I said,
what's that supposed to mean? She said, Oh, they're coming
to you because they believe that you're light him to

(23:15):
have it. She wasn't kidding, mm hmm, that's why they're
come to me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
And then is that when you said I need to
be doing this work or.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
I didn't know what to think. I was still dumped
on and I said, I said, okay, so what am
I supposed to do with that? And she said she said, well,
you need to have a talk with God to see
if you're going to move forward with this or not.
And I said move forward with what? What are you
talking about? She said, Oh, Daniel, you're just an untrained medium.

(23:50):
You just sat to decide if you're actually going to
be that and do what he wants you to do
or not. Yeah, And I said, who wants me to do?
She said, God, what do you think you have this for?
He gave it to you, he wants you to do
something with it, But why do you think all this
is happening for you right now because he's trying to
wake you up to do something with it.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah. You well, you're like, you're like a rock star
in your twenties. You're you ride a motorcycle. Did you
ride a Harley? I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Well, I didn't start riding bikes until I was in
my mid thirties.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
But yeah, yeah, you're doing all these other earthly things
and now you're being told you are the light.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
That's why all I'm just like people. I mean, I'm
still here to do human things, yeah, but I'm here
to do something more.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah. So then what happens next? So you decide, okay,
I'm gonna do.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
So my wife and I we drive home and we're
talking about this, and because we're both kind of freaked
out by this. I mean, she was there witnessing it,
so everybody else witnessed that. When she started talking about me,
everybody in the room just kind of shut up. It
was kind of strange, but yeah, everybody left them. So
that was just a strange conversation. My wife and I
go home and I said, so, I'm supposed to go

(25:06):
in the bedroom or just somewhere and talk to God.
And I guess maybe I'll just turn out the lights
or something. And then but I said to my wife,
I said, this is hard. I said, how do I
talk to God? And she's my wife is very good
at putting things in a perspective with me, and she said,

(25:27):
how do you talk to him any other time? You
just do? That's what we should all feel we do.
We don't need a middleman to do that for us.
We can just talk to him. He's our father, I mean,
so why not talk to him? I said, all right,
So I went into the room, I turned out the lights,
I sat on the bed, and I just kind of
went like this. I said, God, I mean Father, whatever

(25:52):
would you like me to call you? I'll do whatever
you want me to do. Well, If you want me
to help these spirit or these ghosts or whatever it is,
I'll help them. If you want me to help people,
I'll do whatever you want me to do. I'll do
it one hundred and ten percent. I'll go wherever you
want me to go. I'll be whatever you want me
to be, whatever you want me to do, I'll do
it because I need to find answers, because I don't

(26:15):
know what I'm doing here. I just don't. I mean,
I was literally just saying, you know, I'm at rock
bottom here. I don't know what to do. So if
you'll help me, I'll do it for you. I will
do it for you, I'll do it for these souls,
I'll do it for people. I'll do whatever you want
me to do. So then I got done. I stood up,

(26:38):
I walked out of the room and told my wife.
I said, Okay, I just did it. We'll see what happens.
The very next day, everything changed, Oh, I mean very
next day. I started. I stopped seeing a lot of
this what people would consider scary stuff, because I mean,
I see everything that was going on my house is
everything you've ever seen in a scary movie happening in

(26:58):
my home where where I was at. So and at
that point it started fading away, and it took a
little while, but it actually all went away, and then
everything else came. Seeing everything, seeing everything, but seeing it
all the time, but seeing archangels, seeing them around me,

(27:20):
seeing lying in bed, and seeing these bluish white lights
coming up out of the floor, and even though you
look down you can't see where exactly they're coming from,
and they're going through the ceiling and then seeing them
completely surrounding me. But then then the training part came in,
and that was nobody wants to When I talk to

(27:42):
people who say they communicate or work with or have've
been touched by angels, and I asked them a few questions,
and once they answer those questions, I tell them, yeah,
stop telling people you're doing that, because you're not doing it,
because you have no clue of what you're doing and
who you're talking to, because you're not experiencing the things

(28:02):
that would actually take place. So when archangels are preparing
me to be able to see them here then feel them,
communicate with them better, they started touching me on my
arms and body all over me. I feel these cold
little touches all over me. And this would be at nighttime.
I'd see them all around me. I'd see a circle

(28:22):
of them all around me, bright white lights around me,
and all these little things flying around and just amazing,
Like what's that movie? The alien movie? What you see
all the beautiful lut tree of Life and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
I've seen it anyway.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
So beautiful colors, just rainbowish beautiful colors everywhere surrounding me
in my room, and then they start with all the touching,
and it's beautiful and all cold touches, and I'm hearing
things and seeing things. And then the very next day
I wake up and I'm throwing up and crapping everywhere,

(29:00):
three or four outs, okay, and this is going on.
And then I will heal up from that, and then
once I heal up from it, they'll do it again
two weeks later. And that went on for three years.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
That's like an initiation of some kind.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
That is a purging of the system. That is a purging.
They were working on my soul that I could see
them here and feel and communicate with them better. But
because the soul is connected to the body, it was
a purging of the body. It was a clearing of
the body. Because, as I always tell everyone, in order
to get clear messages, you must be clear. I don't smoke,
I don't drink, I don't do drugs, no tattoos, because
they tell me no tattoos, no CBD, nothing. They had

(29:38):
to clear me so I could get clear messages, but
also so I could see here, feel, communicate and clearly
with everything, because I witness everything. Even last night as
I was going to bed last night, I keep my bed,
my bedroom completely blackened out. I saw the parade. The
parade is. I see the parade of all this spirit

(30:00):
that have not crossed over into the light. And I
see them. I see thousands of them standing there, like
I mean not just like one thousand, like hundreds of
thousands standing there walking. I can see the parade from
coming like what looks like to me like twenty miles away,
just sneaking its way. It's just a parade of people,
like a thousand people wide, just walking down the street.

(30:20):
But I know they're walking to nowhere because where they are,
there's nowhere to go except you just keep going. And
these people are just there because they just made a
choice for themselves of not walking into the light. So
I communicate with them and I get them to cross
over into the light. And even the very first time
it happens for me, it just it just came out

(30:42):
of my mouth. I didn't even know where it came from,
because it's like it's like I'm standing on a balcony
and I'm looking down and I'm seeing them. They see me, Yeah,
they walk past. I see them doing this all the time.
And last week I saw a couple of people like
in the line. One of them look back at another
person like that was talking to them, and then went
like this and was pointing up at me and then

(31:03):
went like this and was talking back to them. So
they see me and they know what I am. They
know it. But then when I was talking to them
that very first time, it just said, walk up to
the light, move into the light, and pass through the light,
and you shall be received in heaven as one of
God's children, because God wants all his children to come home.
It's time to go home, children. And it just came
out of my mouth, and I was like, where the

(31:23):
heck did that come from? What is going on here?
So yep, But now I just do it on a
regular basis, and that's I see them every night. But
sometimes I'll see them in the parade or sometimes I'll
just see them one of them standing in front of me.
But I don't see just people. Like I said at Dogs,
cats Horts, Calipash, I'm telling you, yeah, I don't care

(31:44):
what these other shows are going to say, or all
these other people are going to say. There is no
such thing as a rainbow bridge. There just is. I
don't just automatically go into heaven. You go because it's
a choice. But there's all these other people who don't
go because they don't know where to go. They have
been taught that they're going to be judged, or they're
going to go to someplace called hell that doesn't exist,

(32:05):
or there's going to be some guy there named Satan
who's going to come in and the torture. He doesn't exist,
or maybe somebody walking around with horns and a tail.
But that's just because that's what he looks like where
he comes from. That's all it is, you know, So
not everything you see is a monster, but that they
just look different as we look different. Everybody. Aliens are
just ailing to us, that's all. But yeah, they're just
there's everything there, and I see everything there, and then

(32:27):
I talk to them and I try to get them
to cross over. But not everybody wants to cross over either,
so because they're just comfortable with where they are.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
But I just did an interview with somebody who's granny
is exactly that she loves being near our family, so
she doesn't she stays in the astrol. It's so fascinating.
So what you're saying is free will free will still
exists in or out of a body.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, but the problem is free will is free will
is not free. At some point you're going to pay
for it. Uh so well, because you're either going to
walk into the light or you're not if you don't
walk into the lake wherever when If you stay in
that what we call low energy or earth found realm,
whatever age you died, you'll stay that age forever, but forever.
It's not going to last for very long because I

(33:08):
know differently because again, I communicate with our angels. So
when I'm communicating with our angels, the answers I'm getting
are coming from God. I've seen him eight times. He's
touched me eight times and talked to me eighty times.
Doesn't look like what you think it does. But yeah,
you will stay there that age forever. So if you
die at eighty nine, not that you're like all that bad,
but you are in a way because why are you

(33:30):
there Because you still have your pain, anger, sorry, grief, gill, angry,
and then you have all those other bad ones that
are there. It is not the best place to be,
and those bad ones need negative energy in order for
them to continue to survive. Where they are because if
there's energy that they're that I see it all the time,
flowing like little bands of like rivers of energy. They

(33:52):
have to walk up, all spirit I have to walk
up and get in that, and they go into like
a dream statement. They're like, and they close their eyes
and collect it, and then they come out of it
and they're like, because if they don't collect it when
they're walking around, it's like what we feel when we're
walking around when we're nauseous. So they have to collect it.
But the negative ones need a lot more, and they
can't get from those who chose to stay there enough.

(34:15):
They come here and get it.

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(35:03):
and every one of you. Thanks for listening, and I
hope to see you on Patreon soon. I alluded to
this before, but I really wanted to talk about that
negative energy stuff because.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
I've seen the worst of the worse. There's no devil.
They're all in it for themselves. They don't care about
one guy. There's not one guy controlling everybody. They all
do it for themselves.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Okay, cool, if you can talk to so, I'm gonna
give you a scenario, and I would love to know.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Your thoughts on a couple more that are worse.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
I'm sure you have plenty. Because I don't connect with
lower vibration.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
You don't want to. Good, you don't want to I'm
telling you, I mean even other mediums out there. Yeah,
you don't want to see what I see. You just don't.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Well, I'm curious about this so because I consider it
specialty work, right, It's like it's just not my specialty.
But I talk to.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yeah, but this specialty is like turning on the worst
horror movie you've ever seen it. You're not gonna actually
see this horror movie because they won't show it on
TV or movies. Is it's that bad and it won't
off and it won't go away until it's time that
it's going to actually stop. And that's for me, that's
how it is.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
So this scenario is not like the worst horror movie.
It's like a whisper. It sounds like of what you experience.
But I'm curious about motivation. Right, So, like, I am
a spirit baby medium and I was prepping to do
some work with somebody and a soul came into my
awareness that said that he was this future client's son,

(36:25):
her baby, and so I started saying, oh, hi, what
are you doing? And then I just noticed now you're
actually not a not a baby concernment. Yeah, like why
are you here?

Speaker 1 (36:39):
And glad you picked up?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
He I just immediately, you know, cleansed my space and
he just wasn't welcome. I said, you need to go.
But I'm curious about because I don't work with those
kinds of energies. I'm curious about why, what's the motivation,
What's why why come into a scenario like that, why
pretend to be I mean, sure they're countless reasons, but.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Well, you know, I mean the old saying is the
religious whole saying that. You know, the people want to
tell you, I live your life the way they want
you to live and give them ten percent. You know
those people. They want you to believe in this devil guy.
And what do they say about the devil? Oh, the
devil is a liar, So that means whatever he's telling
you actually could be a lie. Or you know, there
could be another negative energy line to who's also telling
you he's the devils well, and so on and so

(37:23):
on and so on. But yeah, yeah, why do they
do it? Because they want you to produce fear. Because
you produce fear, now they can collect that from you.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
It's energy.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
That the only reason they are what I call energy vampires.
They need negative energy and the worst negative energy you
can have is fear. And if they can put that
into your mind, into your heart and make you feel it,
you're you are now a human mortgage board. You are
a buffet of negative energy for them to collect, and

(37:56):
then they will stay around you. I mean, you want
to go to the worst places in the world and
get some fear or the worst negative energy in the
world go to church because everybody they're trying to prove
to each other person, I'm a better Christian than you are. Negativity, right,
So yeah, that's why they want to do it. Whatever
they can do to make you do that and make
you have that fear come out of you or those
negative thoughts or depression, or maybe maybe if they talk

(38:19):
to you enough and make you feel so bad, maybe
you'll start drinking and doing drugs and all this. What
is that that's all negative energy. That is them doing
that so that they can collect that energy off you.
So and they will suck that energy off you, but
again giving you a little bit at the same time,
so you'll continue to produce it for them. That's okay.

(38:40):
They don't want they're not going to kill you. They
want you to die specifically because they need to collect
energy off the and then maybe when it is for
you to die, maybe hopefully you'll choose not to walk
into the light, you'll stay there and then they collect
it off you then too, because they still got you.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Okay, well it didn't work for that soul.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah, good for you, man. And the way that the
best way to make any negative edgey go away. I mean,
as I say this all the time. You can you
can place all the sacred geometry tattoos all of you
all you want. You can wave all the sage and
seed or you want all that stuff. You can do
all kinds of things. You can put crystals around your house.

(39:20):
That's all illusionary, illusionary tools that are not going to
help that. You have to do the work. You have
to exit the people who are in your life who
are horrible, and exit yourself from all the situations. Exit
yourself from from all the negative places, watching all the
negative stuff like politics and sports and all this stuff
that it's not none of it is helping you. Is

(39:40):
a distraction. You have to exit yourself from that in
order to be clear so that these things will not
come and bother you. But they but the only thing
that you can do to make them go away is
by putting on positive energy, by being the best version
of you that you can be and helping their people
to do that, which in turn is helping you. Because

(40:03):
it's positive, they don't want to be around that. It's
like like too magnet. They can't hold the same space,
so they only want to be around negativity, and if
you're not putting out negativity, but if they can come
through and try to convince you and to do it.
I mean, sometimes you'll feel that, you'll feel a heaviness
around you, or you feel like a heaviness on your
on your weight on your shoulders or something like that

(40:24):
and all that stuff. But I automatically tell people you
start feeling that, start thinking about kitty cuts and puppy
dogs and ice cream.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
The moment you do that and you think they're going
to go away, they don't want anything to do with you.
But if you are. I mean a lot of people
have these problems with all these negative energies in their homes.
But what they don't tell you about that story is
the ghost story is the reason they're in there is
because there's people are a piece of crap because they
walk around and I hate everybody and I hate the world.
When you do that, you're inviting them. Aha.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
The fear is they eat they feed on it.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Absolutely, the fear, the meanness, the cruelty, the horribleness that
they are talking around. I mean, when I say someone's
a piece of crap, I'm not judging them. That's just
me telling the truth that they're a piece of crap
because they're walking around being a piece of crap because
why because they choose to be that way. You know,
what they could do, They could choose differently. But if
they're not going to choose differently, well, then don't go

(41:17):
see this person because they're a piece of crap.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Yeah. Well, I don't know what happened with that particular scenario,
but I will tell you that just about it. Well,
that sold it. But just about just three minutes or so,
minutes before this person and I were supposed to meet,
she emailed me and said, I'm so sorry, something terrible
has happened and I have to cancel last minute, and
I never heard from her again. So I don't know
what happened. It's very sad, but I.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Want to see you in the middle man when so
I'm asking and instead of going to you now, they
just went direct with her.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Ah okay, yep, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
So sad. It's awful, but I'm glad. But as we know,
as practitioners, you can't help everybody.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Nope, no, obviously not.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
No.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
I wanted to save the world at one point.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
But yeah, well you are a part of that you
are here to do that. But we're all here to
do that in little ways where we're trying to get
everybody as we can to do that because it's got
to start somewhere, and why not start here. So you're
helping to do that. You're a little piece at a
time as well as we're doing. But your little piece
just got bigger because now you're on a new reality

(42:19):
TV and you're gonna be broadcasting to everywhere else as
well as I am to try to wake the society up,
to get them to understand dude, I mean my show
will Beyond the Veil with Daniel Jackson me. That's why
I started, is more of again making them aware of things.
I'm not a coach. I don't even though I do
some coaching things, I don't consider myself a coach. I

(42:41):
don't call myself psychic because when you say the word psychic,
then you have people coming up there you and go
what am I thinking now? And I said, I don't
know what you're thinking now, But everyone else thinks are
more on for asking a dumb question. But yeah, but
we're here to wake everybody up, and we just we're
here to do it in our own way. We're all
a part of that pie, the big piece supply, were
just all different slices, all working towards the same goal hopefully. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yes, so you have the TV show. We both are
on the on New Reality TV, and that's how we met.
Yay and Beyond the Veil with Daniel Jackson. You have
a book that's out.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
I have a book. Yeah. My book is called The
Daniel Jackson The New Beginning, My Wakening as a Spirit Medium.
So it goes through a chronological story from memories as
far back as being a kid, all the way up
until right at that moment of becoming a medium, and
then some parts after that. Like it's got some of
my favorite readings in there, but it tells all the
stories of everything that I went through. I didn't hold anything. Well,

(43:40):
there are some parts I actually did hold back that
I didn't want to put in the book because again
the types of experiences I have, it would turn it
into a horror like a horror story. I don't want that.
I want people to get the positive message that came
out of the book, and it's continuing to come out.
So I just I see everything for everybody else that

(44:01):
they don't want to see when I tell them about
that stuff, because I people commeect to me all the time.
Oh Daniel, I wish I had your gift, I wish
I had your ability. Once I explain some of the things,
they quickly retract that statement. They don't want those I
see it all the time. It doesn't go away from me.
I'm always being touch, poach, pink, pinch all the time,
all day by spear, I see them all day. I

(44:22):
do'll ever not see them in a sense like I
know is a Is that a real background? Or you
want to know as virtual? It's so, what color are
those shelves behind you?

Speaker 2 (44:32):
What color?

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Brown?

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Okay to you? The brown? To me, they're not brown.
I see them as being brown. But I also see
a mist of blue in those shelves. I see it,
miss the blue in the leaves and everything. I see
a miss the blue inside of your complexion, everything about you,
even in your beautiful white teeth. I see this, the
blue and everything, and that missed the blue that I
see is the veil. It never turns off for me.

(44:56):
It's it's just when I start concentrating in it, then
I start seeing everything it's in and that's during the daytime,
at nighttime or when I close my eyes then I
see everything.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
And does blue or colors have meaning for you?

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah, well, blue is the color of energy. When I
see those everything there in that low energy realm, they
are all their complexion is blue. Everything, but everything has
like a tinge of blue to it. But and the
funny thing about it is people don't know is when
I see spirit, they all have clothes on. Why because
they are all pure energy. They can manipulate themselves in
order to do that as well as negative energies can
manipulate themselves, they will keep it more horrible. They're scare

(45:33):
of you. But yeah, they manipulate themselves wearing clothes because
they can do that. But yeah, they all have a
tinge of blue. But in that place, the place that
I see, that's not blue, that's black because there's nothing there.
It's nothingness. Yeah, that's the lowest of it's low energy.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
And so what you do now is you have a show,
a TV show and a podcast to you and you
do readings.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
You do, yeah, I do. I do readings with people. Again,
the only time I'll look into them to see their
soul is because sometimes the soul gets crooked inside of
the body that the person has now caused because they
are stressing themselves out, and when they stress themselves out,
it causes a movement of the soul within the body,
which also affects the body, and that's why they have
certain I found that out because I was I had

(46:18):
two friends of mine over my house with my wife
and I both mediums that I met in this group
of the mediums who helped me to develop what I
have now, and subsequently they all come to me for
answers because they know who the hell I'm talking to.
But she, one of the girls, was sitting there in
front of me, and when I was talking to her,
and her mom was there because she's also a medium
and never talked to my wife, and I just happened

(46:39):
to turn around and look at her. When I did,
I looked into her back, and when I did, I
saw a face in her back and I just so
I immediately turned around like this and started talking to
them in my mind because I didn't want them to
know what the hell was going on because it's kind
of crazy. And I said, am I seeing her soul?
And then they touched me and said yes, and I
hear yes, and I was like, but it looks like
there's a deviation in there or something like around by

(46:59):
her should her. I said, I said, is that what
I'm seeing? And I heard yes, and I was like
and then I just had this overwhelming feeling and I said, oh,
can I fix that? And they said yes. I said,
how do I do that? And then they told me
and I was like a voice and I said, okay,
we want you to ask her if it's okay, and

(47:20):
then we want you to put her hands on her shoulders,
close your eyes, concentrate and then they said that as
they always say, a lot and just watch and I
was like, okay, So I asked her. Her name is Mariam?
I said, Mariam. I said, are you either a problem today?
Are you not feeling good? I mean, do you have
a pain in your left shoulder? And she was like,
oh my god, Daniel, she said, my shoulder is killing me.

(47:43):
She said, I wasn't even going to come today. But
Mom said, as she always said, we got to go
see Daniel because you know how his energy is and
make it feel better. And she said, I feel a
little bit better, but still I got this headache and
my shoulders kill me. I said, well, I can see
your soul inside of you and it's got a little deviation.
But they're telling me, I can I can fix it?

(48:03):
Do you mind if I do that? And she's like, yeah, sure, okay,
I mean because they never know with me, because I
always got something new happening. So I said, all right.
So I stood up and did like a little mister
Miyagi and warrem my hands up work because I have
really cold hands. And I said, okay, and I'll sit still.
Here we go, and I put my hands on our
shoulder and when I did, she just went and I
was like, oh, of cours, there we go. Sorry, buddy,

(48:24):
I'm not just kidding and holding And then I closed
my eyes and then I see little balls of energy.
Now I can still see my arms with my eyes closed,
little balls of energy going through my arms, and she's
moving like this, and she's like and then and then
I said, all right, now hold on. I said, I
got to move your soul back because it's crooked. And

(48:44):
I move it back in place, and it looks at
me and winks atized and smiles and then it says
thank you. I mean, it says thank you. So, and
then I said, okay, here we go. And I said, ready,
I gave you a little bit extra. We're done. And
she went.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Rolling the shoulder.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
My headache gone, everything is gone. I feel better. She said,
what do you call that? I said, I don't know.
I just went what do I call that? And I
heard soulo alignment. That's what I call it. Soul alignment.
She said, I love it. You should add that to
your card.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
I said, yeah, there's you go.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah, but it just it just happens that way for me.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
So in the beginning of today you said that you
had you had looked at my soul? Yeah? Yeah, is
it crooked? What do you see?

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Shoot that? Has anyone ever told her that before? So
she knows? Or should you know? Does anyone ever mentioned
the word starts you to you? Yes, you're not from here.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
I believe that.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
I don't want to say it in this way, but
I will because our souls come back over our life.
Here is being learning lessons, but fulfilling the purpose. That's
what brings you back, not anything else. Now, it's not
solely the lessons. It's because you haven't fulfilled the purpose
and the purposes we are here to help each other
just for the sake of helping, not because you came
up because you're shoot in a way where you're going

(50:35):
to do something for someone they cannot physically do for themselves,
or you're helping them to figure it out, like you're
helping you see a dog in the middle of the
street and you go, oh, let me get that dog
out of the street, or let me get it to
its owner. It's little things like that. Or you're one
of those people says, I got time for that dog,
I'm late for work. Well, if you're leap for work,
get up earlier. It's pretty simple. You're just lazy, because
people are spiritually lazy and lazy in this place when

(50:57):
you're doing little things like that. But we do with
through our lives, but we don't do it enough. And
why do we keep coming back Because we don't do
it enough? And he wants us to do it enough. Why
because he wants us to do the actual mean, the
true meaning of life. The true meaning of life is
to love. I'm going to take care of each other.
That's what we're here to do. It's not all this,

(51:18):
you know, other the seven deadly sins, and there's no
such thing as sin. We are all creative from God,
from a part of Him's next our soul, divine soul.
Everyone is a divine soul. But religion doesn't want you
to know that stuff. Okay, But we're all here to
love each other and to take care of each other.
And if we don't do that enough, that's why you
keep coming back over and over and over again. You

(51:38):
can regrets to all the past lives you want to that.
You know, you can regress to our past life one
hundred years ago, but you don't live the same life.
If your life is so important of your previous lifetime
to this one, if it was so important, you would
have gotten it done and you wouldn't be here. Now,
what do you have in common with the other seven
point five billion people in the face of this world?

(52:00):
On this world Maria's They've all been to heaven and
they all had to come back, just like you. So
what does that make everybody equal?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
I'm cool with that.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
No one's no one's better than anyone else. We're all equal.
So you can do all the past life progression and
all that stuff. That stuff is not going to help you.
A life from one hundred years ago is not going
to help you to a life that has computers and
and and and police officers and criminals and all that stuff.
The type of life we are living here now. You
can learn the lessons from that and hopefully get through it.

(52:33):
But I don't want to regress or digress to anything.
I want to figure out what I got going on here,
because what's important is what you do here now, not
one hundred years ago. That's not important. Mike Drop, Mike Trap. Yeah,
I'm sorry. I know there's people out there who believe
in that stuff, and if they're doing work to help people, great,

(52:56):
but help them for what they're doing now. That's the Yeah,
you're here now, so you didn't get it right then?

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Yeah. Well also some I'm not a quantum businessist, but
they say it's all happening now anyway, it's all now, right.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Everything is yeah, Yeah, I mean you're here now, so yeah,
so that's what we're here to do. We're here to
take care of each other. But yeah, you are here
now because the other times of where you were you
were not able to get it correct there, so you
came to the Learning planet.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Great, let's get it done.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Every single time that you've been alive.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
You've had this visibility? Yes, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yeah, and let me see. Let me ask how many
times there or so in the other place that you
were at, you were there only four times here, but
here you've been here twenty eight times. I'm not shocked,
meaning you've had twenty seven of them, sets of moms

(53:58):
and dads, brothers and sisters, dogs and cats, and twenty seven.
I'm gonna say this because I know people don't like
They're not gonna like this when I say this, But
twenty seven other astrological signs. I mean absolutely horsecrapped because
your body is born, your soul was not, and your
soul was not born under stars. Stars have nothing to
do with that non physical being. Oh, it just doesn't.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
That's a cool just doesn't live.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
It just doesn't. I mean, the original calendar was five
months long, then nine, then ten, and then twelve and
then so what did you actually had? You have five signs,
and then you had four more created, and then one
more created and then two more created. So here's the astrology. Ready,
This is a bunch of people standing around looking up
the stars, going, oh, connect the dots to mix a fish. No,
it doesn't because why don't only twelve signs have something

(54:41):
to do with to you? But the other billions, the
other you know, many universes and all that stuff. I
mean really no, I mean if you were born on
the other side of Pluto, would you see the same
stores as I stars as I do. No, you wouldn't.
And there you are connected to God and we are
called connected to him and each other everything. That's where
the connection is, not a bunch of stars up in

(55:02):
the sky. Oh I'm a surgittarius.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Whatever born, your soul chooses the body it's coming into,
knows exactly when it's coming in. Yes, that have to
do with What does that have to do with a
bunch of stars and planets?

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Nothing?

Speaker 2 (55:16):
I would love to be in it. This is what's
gonna happen, Daniel. I am going to pop a bowl
of popcorn and put you in a room with an
astrologist and I want to hear a beautiful conversation.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
I said that conversation already. I do a show up
in Tucson. I had that car.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
I missed it.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Yeah, you know what she did, walked away because she
had nothing to say. That's what I do. Unfortunately, I
have to do that. I'm I'm the person that has
to put some people in their place because they need
to be told that a numerology really, come on, there's
just so much. You know, you're a soul. You are

(55:56):
you don't have a soul, you are a soul, and
you're here living the human experience to try to get
along with each other and try to figure out because
we all live on the same planet. No one's going
anywhere anytime soon, so we better start to get along
with each other before we in my e.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Yes, can we can we?

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Please?

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Also, part of being human is inquiring around these kinds
of things too, So everybody listening, please use your discernment and.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Right, but distracting yourself with a bunch of stars and
what month you were born on which day and what
time and all that stuff. No, it's a distrect.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Well, I have to tell you, Daniel, I'm a little
bit addicted to crystals though.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
I have to tell you that. Well, crystals can help you,
but crystals are not going to get you free of negativity.
Crystals are going to maintain that. And that's what we
have to do that. It's energy. Energy is energy. It's
to my table here has energy.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
I don't want to get rid of my crystals, all right.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
You know, you know the difference differences between you and me. Nothing.
We're connected to each We're brother and sister. We are
brother and sister, not only here, but there too, back
at home, because this is not home. Yeah, We're here
to learn things and learn these lessons of the Builder's
purpose and get it done so we can all go
home and stay home and go back to our home

(57:13):
be with father's h We got to get this done right.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah. Well, Daniel, thank you so much, Thank you so much.
I'm looking forward to connecting again here and on New
Reality TV. Everyone go to New realitytv dot com watch
our shows, Be on the Veil with Daniel Jackson and
The Reluctant Medium with doctor Maria Rothenberger. Thanks so much
for being here.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Be good, don't do your stupid stuff.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Thank you for joining the Reluctant Medium podcast today. I
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(57:59):
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