Introducing the Pink Starlights. A Spirit Baby Conversation with Lynsi Eastburn [Replay]

In this captivating episode replay from 'The Miracles Happen Fertility Podcast,' Maria welcomes back Lynsi for a deep dive into the fascinating topic of spirit babies. Lynsi shares her journey in fertility hypnosis over the past 20 years, revealing how she discovered her ability to connect with spirit babies, particularly the unique group known as the 'Pink Starlights.' These special entities are said to bring unconditional love and are part of a larger spiritual revolution. Lynsi discusses her book 'Waiting in the Wings: Introducing the Pink Starlights,' which offers insights into the balance of intention and surrender, spiritual initiation, and the global shift towards a more balanced and loving world. Tune in to learn more about how to connect with spirit babies, the importance of spiritual growth, and the empowering journey towards parenthood.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi there, Welcome to the Reluctant Medium podcast. I'm doctor
Maria Rothenberger, your host for the podcast and for the
summer of twenty twenty five, I'm doing something slightly different
with the podcast is you can already tell if you
are a frequent listener. I am in the midst of
preparing for season two of the Reluctant Medium TV show, which,

(00:20):
by the way, you can access at newrealitytv dot com.
And because of that, I am going to be putting
some podcast episodes out there that were the most popular
over the years. I've been podcasting since twenty sixteen and
I've had two shows now, The Miracles Happen Fertility Podcast
and The Reluctant Medium. I will be incorporating the most

(00:44):
popular episodes from both of these podcasts over the years,
and we're playing them for you for July and August
of twenty twenty five. I'll be back live with new
podcast episodes in September twenty twenty five, and new Reality
TV we'll also have season two of the Reluctant Medium
TV show. Enjoy these most popular podcast episodes over the

(01:08):
last ten years or so, and I'll see you again
in the fall.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Welcome to the Miracles Happen Fertility Podcast, where it's all
about using the power of your mind to create hope,
health and miracles on your fertility journey. And now your
host a dash of science and a heap of spirit,
doctor Maria Rothenberger.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Hey, Hey, this.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Is the Miracles Happen Fertility Podcast. Episode seventy one called
the Pink Starlights a Spirit Baby Conversation with Lindsay Eastburn,
changing up the format just a little bit for those
avid listeners could tell the difference. I'm doing a little
intro after the music, and if you are an avid listener,

(02:01):
thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you from the
bottom of my heart for tuning in as usual and
inviting me into your day. I have been fortunate enough
to meet a fair bit of you through Spirit Baby
Sessions of late, and if you are new to spirit
Babies don't know what spirit Baby Sessions are, head on

(02:24):
over to episode sixty six, called My Coming Out Story,
where I talk about the fact that I'm a medium,
that I can talk to folks on the other side
and how that came about. Because it's crazy, it's crazy,

(02:46):
and you know what I feel. I feel kind of cool,
about that because I live near Portland, Oregon, which is
obviously a giant piece of the news of late but
also a melting pot of the world of the weird.
In fact, the motto is keep Portland weird.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
It is where I feel at home.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
So this is the weird side of me, but not really.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I don't think it's weird.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
It feels natural. Annie who thank you for tuning in today,
and I have a beautiful episode for you today speaking
of this very natural, amazing feeling the spiritual side of
the fertility world. I have Lindsay Eastbourne for you today.

(03:34):
I interviewed her last year about her hypno fertility and
at the very very end of the episode we touched
on spirit baby stuff and she's talking about this new
book coming out and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa what we need to talk again, obviously, And a

(03:55):
year later, it's finally coming to fruition. Unfortunately, Lindsay was
hit with the coronavirus and it hit her really hard.
So she's doing well now, recovering and okay, it's just
it was it wiped her out.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
So okay.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Before that though, of course, just checking in with the
goings on at the Miracles Happen Fertility Center. Spirit Baby
Sessions are up and running. Spirit Baby Sessions are away
for you to connect with your spirit baby, your baby

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that you are meant to have. And often I am
able to pick up on your energy, your energetic field.
I pick up on chakras, and I'm able to see
if there are any blockages or things that could be
useful in improving your life. Really, but of course we're

(04:59):
looking at for tw and drawing baby to you.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Now.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
When I talk about fertility, heads up, it doesn't necessarily
mean your body's fertility. It means creation. It means making
new things so baby can come to you in various
ways as you know. But I do look at any
kind of blockages in your chakra field that can help,
that could be opened. I am not an energetic healer though,

(05:27):
so you'll want to connect with an energetic healer. Have
not been trained there. I have been trained in spirit
baby work though.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yay.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Kelly Mehan at spirit Babycommunication dot Com is my mentor.
She's fabulous also has a podcast, Go check her out. Okay,
So Spirit Baby Sessions are in full swing for those
who are on my mailing list which you can get
on at doctor Maria Rothenberger dot com and you just

(05:54):
click on the Fertility Meditation Kit or that pop up
that pops up, or you can go to the podcast
page and right there on the right hand side, it's
there to sign up for the newsletter or man, I
think you can sign up at all kinds of different
places so you'll find it.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
It'll be obvious.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Just sign up for the newsletter. You get twenty five
percent off of session through August twenty twenty, and it's
I have to tell you it's been absolutely enlightening and
healing on so many levels. I'm happy to read some
feedback that I've received, and if you do do a

(06:33):
spirit Baby session with me, I do ask for feedback,
either with your name or anonymously. It's completely up to you. Obviously,
you don't have to. It's optional. I like it most
obviously for what's helpful, but also how you would like
things to be different. You know what words of wisdom

(06:56):
can you offer that can help find tu in a session.
But I'll tell you what people found valuable. People wrote,
So this person wrote, what they found valuable is connecting
with my spirit baby, knowing that everything is as it
should be and that my baby is happy. I also
liked when Maria read my energy and advised me which

(07:19):
of my chakras were closed and could use some work.
She then provided ways to open those chakras, as well
as homework for me to do. Yay homework. If you
like homework, you'll love Spirit Baby sessions. I found it
really helpful, this person says to have some guidance as
to how I can improve my energy to connect my
spirit baby. I also really liked being provided or brainstorm

(07:40):
possible things to do at home for homework. Another homework
lover fabulous. This person says the suggestions that came out
of the session were the most valuable. I knew some
of them, but it was good to reinforce them once again,
while others were new but felt light, so I knew
they were right for me. I also loved the fact
that you didn't ask for any information before the session,
and yet so many things were spot on. It was

(08:02):
quite remarkable to have this validation from sphere Baby. Overall
amazing experience. And then someone else wrote she valued the
focus on messages from the baby, not the client's story.
So yeah, that's true. I like to know as little
as possible about you and about your story, because my
left brain tends to kick in. You know, like I've

(08:24):
talked about on this show quite a bit, that I
come from a from a family of engineers on my
dad's side, and you know, one plus one always equals
to there's no other way. And so I my left
brain tends to kick in when I know too, when
I know too much. Some things I can know, but

(08:45):
other than that, I just like to say what I'm seeing.
So anyway, I thank you to those of you who
have written your feedback. Those pieces of feedback were from Monica, Emily, Irina,
and Mara, and I am eternally grateful to you. Thank

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you so much for taking a moment out of your day,
for a few minutes out of your day to offer
some feedback to me. And there are some ways to
improve as well well. Two people said I don't have
any improvements, no suggested improvements, but other people talked about
wanting to know more about what a spirit baby session

(09:27):
was like so that she could feel more prepared. And
then another suggestion was to have a video recording of
the session. I'm just gonna address that really quick. The
platform that I use is a secure Hippo compliant platform.
It's not Zoom, and I'm not then able to record
from this Hippo compliant platform if I am to do

(09:50):
Zoom sessions in the future, which I have done in
the past, but if I go back to Zoom, I
can absolutely record them for you. Perhaps I shall make
that an option for you, just knowing that it's not
as encrypted or as secure as this particular platform, although
I think Zoom has up the ante.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
All right.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Somebody else wrote her baby came through saying I'm trying
to connect to you through caterpillars, and I don't know
where that came from, but this feedback was I cannot

(10:30):
tell you how much piece this session has brought me
to know that my baby is waiting for me. It's
amazing how often my spirit baby was trying to communicate
with me, but I was not open to it until
we had communication. A big message that came through was
that our little boy loves nature and would come to
us through nature, specifically in caterpillars. Since our session, my
husband and I have seen so many caterpillars. Right after

(10:52):
our session, our first caterpillar appeared on our deck. The
first caterpillar we had seen all year. One of the
other big takeaways was that our baby liked the vibe
of my husband and wanted my husband not to give
up craft beer, which I had just told him to
take a break from for our next IVF cycle. Yeah,
I totally remember that. I was like, does your husband

(11:12):
like beer?

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Or like does he brew his own beer?

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Like what is this? So baby was like, yeah, do that.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
So it goes on.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
It's like such beautiful messages from spirit babies, and they're
so protective of you, and they just they just love you.
Some babies need a little bit of reassurance. The babies
don't need don't need anything. They're just there and trying
to connect with you. It's it's such an amazing experience.

(11:46):
I have such a great time. And every time that
I get off a call with somebody, I I say, WHOA,
what the frig was that? So I'm like, where did
that come from? I even emailed my mentor with the
subject line holy shit, and then inside was I can

(12:09):
do this. It's it's incredible. It's incredible work. So thank
you to those who have engaged in spirit baby readings
with me. It has been outstanding. On my end, and
I hope you feel the same. Obviously. If there's anything,
of course, that I can do to make it better,
that'd be wonderful. Okay, speaking of spirit babies, this is

(12:33):
an entire spirit baby episode. Lindsay Eastbourne is up next.
She is a wonderful, wonderful human. Most of her work
that I knew about was around hypnofertility. She has several
books out and her upcoming book is called Waiting in

(12:57):
the Wings and it's about her connection with these specific
spirit babies. If you've heard of Indigo children, or Crystal
children or Rainbow children, I had not heard of Crystal
and Rainbow children. I had heard of Indigo children. If
you have not, it's beyond the scope of today's episode,
but certainly check it out. She does mention it in

(13:18):
our interview, and if you prefer a video interview, you're
welcome to head over to Miracles Happen Fertility Center on
YouTube and watch the video recording. It's actually kind of
fun because I change up my background.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
I was using zoom.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
It's fun, but that's the least of it. It's more
fun getting the content from Lindsay. From Lindsay, she's outstanding.
Still one of my favorite interviewees. And thank you to
Lindsay for connecting with me again. Without further ado, I
give you Lindsay eastburn In Lindsay, welcome back to Miracles Happen.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Hi there, Thanks for having me back. Man.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
I am so happy to talk to you today. Have
no idea. It's been a year since we last book,
and we foreshadowed this very cool topic of spirit babies,
and now we're talking about it.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
So yeay, yay. Absolutely, I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yes, me too, Like you don't even know, or maybe
you can feel it. Maybe the babies are telling you
how excited I am.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
I'm pretty sure they set this up, so yeah, I
think so. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
They probably set it up a year ago too. For
those who are who are just tuning in now or
watching this video for the first time. Last year I
got to interview Lindsay and I just reviewed it, and
I really do think it was the last two and
a half minutes we were talking about acupuncture and I'm
sorry it hypno fertility and the last for the entire interview,

(14:55):
and in the last two and a half minutes it was, oh,
this spirit baby thing and I'm writing a book and
I'm like, wait, wait, wait, what now we need to
talk about that, because that's that's a fantastic topic. Near
and dear to me too. So and I just realized
that I have I'm working from home today, and so

(15:16):
I have these cool virtual backgrounds and I have a
special background for the pink.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Oh my gosh, you got to see this, Okay, I
got to show you this versus this is the front
of one of my books. Can you see it? Oh?

Speaker 1 (15:31):
I have that book.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, see the front. It looks just like that background.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Oh my gosh, that is almost the one that I chose,
but I thought I needed more pink.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Oh that's so fun. That's fun. And it's the same.
They look like that. Those a little little bubbly orbs
or whatever you want to call them. I mean, that's perfect.
I just have I'm at home too, and I know
home offfe background.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yes that works well. Normally I would just have my
normal office background, but I'm at home today and I
just have a blank wall behind me.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
So let me have some fun.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
For those listening on the podcast, you'll have to head
over to YouTube and get this video on YouTube to
see the backgrounds.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Because it's fun.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Okay, so Lindsay, can you just give a recap real quick?
For those who listen to the last podcast, Last Interview
with Lindsay, it's episode forty two. I believe I wrote,
can you just give us a recap? Who you are,
what you do?

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Well, Manie Fay sorry, a little mini bio, a little
mini bio.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yes. So basically, I've been working with fertility hypnosis for
just over twenty years and I ended up out here
in Colmorado. It's kind of an interesting synchronous to story
that's a whole other podcast. So, but here here is
sort of a hot spot for fertility here in the
Denver area, with two of the biggest the next in

(16:55):
the world being here, and also just the Colorado area
being just an interesting energy. I wrote a little bit
about being like a vortex in my second book, just
sort of the energy and the attraction that it is here.
So I felt like I was really drawn to be
here in Colorado and my husband and I he's a
hypnoth therapist as well, and he was in practice here

(17:16):
and I was in Chicago and ended up that we
met actually at a conference and ended up married and came.
I came out here to join his practice. Well, it
was right about that time that all of a sudden,
fertility started coming my way. So there was no such
thing exactly as hypnosis or fertility at that time. It's
not that people didn't do it. It's that nobody was

(17:39):
really specializing it. It really kind of wasn't a thing.
So with hymn not therapists, we work with whatever comes
in to the office, we can help, but there wasn't
anything specific, and all of a sudden I had all
of these women coming in for help in this area.
So the interesting thing that happened at the time was

(18:00):
women were getting these zero percent or less than three
percent chances of getting pregnant, and in a lot of
times they were they're being just told go home, forget it,
figure out how to be childless or or adopt that
kind of thing. And so they were coming to me
for various reasons. One came in through a phobia of needles,
because if you are going to do some medical treatment,

(18:21):
especially idea, if you're going to not be able to
do very well if you have that issue. And then
to see if they could adjust their hormones or to
see if they could release some of the attachments that
they that they had or the way they wanted things
to be a deal with degree for the emotions, and
so I started with that, and the next thing I know,

(18:42):
I've got all these natural babies showing up even with
these zero percent chances. And what I noticed was where
women came in, they would say, I know there's a
baby there. I just know there's a baby there. And
I would say, I believe you. I would always I
would always believe that any medical diagnosis or prognosis really

(19:04):
virtually any but if you don't have all the perks,
maybe that's something a little different. But even at that,
it doesn't mean you don't have a spirit baby with you.
But we'll get today. So that's kind of what happened.
I looked around to see if there were any trainings,
if there was anything out there, and there wasn't. There
wasn't anything in the books you could get the the
infertility books, and it talked about acupunctural and talk about

(19:26):
maybe car practic or nutrition. Nothing about hypnosis, so maybe
a little bit about meditation, and those are are similar
and you're different. So basically the way I put it is,
I said, yes, the universe put this in my lap,
and I said, okay, yes, I really, I really care
about this. And when I was a little kid, and

(19:47):
that's about nine, when Louise Brown was born, So the
first so called test tube baby, right, And I remember
I was in vackseating the car and this announcement came
on the radio and it gives me chill now, and
it said that this first test tube baby had been born,
and I had this thought, Oh, thank goodness, Now, any
woman who wants a baby will be able to have one.

(20:10):
Nobody will never not be able to have a baby
now nine years old, at nine years old, who thinks
about that? Right? And remember it so clearly to this day.
And of course it wasn't quite as cut and dry
as it sounded at the time that just any person
would be able to use this and have a baby.
But it struck me. It struck me, and it always has.

(20:32):
And my two kids are the greatest gift that I have.
And I've accomplished a lie in my life, but nothing,
nothing means as much to me as they do. And so,
knowing how I feel about that, I really want women
who want that to be able to have that. And

(20:52):
not everybody wants a baby, right, and that's okay and
it's great. I think people who don't I admire them,
were just saying, hey, I don't and I'm going on
because there's some people that really shouldn't have kids.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, and all of us they don't have a spirit
baby hanging out.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
But well, and I agree, I agree with that. If
there's if women are sort of really feeling that there's
a baby there, it's pretty much because there's a baby there.
And so that's how really, how all of that got going?
So cool?

Speaker 1 (21:20):
What a story. I'm still stuck on the nine years
old thinking, oh, how great there's that means that people
have babies if they want. Oh that's so. I was
not thinking about anything like that at nine. I was like,
when can I have some ice cream?

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, it struck me definitely when I thought about it,
and I've always remembered it. But you know, so I
was writing the books, some of these things started to
come back to me and like synchronicities, so so much
of it is about that.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. I recently did a podcast on
the coincidence or synchronicity, and synchronicity is just all over
the place. You just have to pay to so can
you help us then if you if you will, it's
kind of a basic definition or basic understanding of what
this spirit baby stuff is when people So I asked

(22:13):
this because it recently had another podcast thing where I
came out right, I came out as Dudevat and that
I do the spirit baby work, and so on the
heels of that, I said, hey, I'm doing this self
study stuff and I'm offering a few free sessions. So
people signed up and they didn't really know what spirit
baby stuff was. And one person said, I wish that

(22:36):
I had known what this is because I now have
more questions. It's really good that you're that you're saying that, because, yeah,
people need to know what this is. So from your
point of view, can you tell us what spirit baby
stuff is?

Speaker 3 (22:50):
In a nutshell? Absolutely in a nutshell, for sure. Yeah,
I like the big nutshell, but I've also very compid
in a nutshell. And I definitely learned this as I
went along. Was kind of this expanded. I was using
hypnosis to help women to get pregnant, and I always
did sense energy. I'm an EmPATH and I've always sensed energy,

(23:11):
which has probably had something to do with with me
feeling so strongly about women being able to have babies
if they wanted them. I've always been really tuned into that.
So I started basically with sort of art and science
of hypnosis and really applying that to help women to
have babies. And I was always, like I said, I
connected into the energy aspect of it, and as I worked,

(23:35):
the work began to evolve, and so I would really, well,
it was just interesting to me that all of these
babies were showing up and in the medical world, I
literally did hear the words anecdotal babies or anecdotal babies.
There's no proof, there's no science, there's no research, and well,
I'm kid that there's still babies, and here's why right here,

(23:55):
and so I'm fine with the babies don't care if
they're anecdotal, and that doesn't matter. The parents don't care.
So I found that kind of interesting, and over the
years it just sort of became clearer and clearer to
me in that spirit form. And I've always been aware
of that kind of thing, but never consider myself as psychic.
I considered myself I hit a therapist and working in

(24:17):
the healing arts. I did king and things like that,
and I've sort of almost collected or gathered all of
those various modalities that have become who I am. And
so at one point I said to my husband, ye,
I'm not a psyche, and he's like, you kind of are.
I mean no, because but I don't see myself as

(24:39):
a typical psyche where you go for readings and they
kind of give you sort of this whole layout. For me,
it's more like it's almost a medium type of thing,
because the way I've always seen it is if you
ever talk to anyone who has worked in hospice or
been around hospice, they'll tell you how the patients at
the end start to see why, or their husbands or

(25:01):
their sisters, or their grandmothers or somebody coming to get
them right. And it's changed beliefs for a lot of
people who have seen that. It's just so so I
solid it's not really the word, but almost tangible. It's
really really present. And so I saw myself as a
reverse hospice. They're coming in to me. I'm seeing on

(25:23):
them on that side where they're coming into the world
rather than leaving the world. Yeah, So that's probably the
best way that I can define that, and over the
years I worked with I don't know if you've heard
of Walter. I believe it's the kitchen how you pronounce
his last thing, Spirit Babies. He wrote that book, and
a lot of people would do readings with Walter at

(25:43):
that time and they would mention that to me if
they've done one, and I would incorporate that into some
of the work that we would be doing. And it
worked out nice. It worked out really nicely. Man. So
then I started seeing these babies. It was probably around
two thousand and nine, and I started seeing these babies
and I thought, I literally thought I was getting migraine.

(26:04):
When I'm sitting here, going I'm at beginning migraine. It
doesn't hurt, but this must be that aura that they
talk about, right, So I wouldn't say anything I didn't see.
And then I started to see all these sort of
patterns happening with Hey, these migraines. All migraines only happened
in my office or on Skype when I'm talking to
a fertility client. That's interesting, And I've had migraines. And

(26:26):
I talked about that in the book that my third book,
I talked about about that, and this wasn't the same,
but yet here was what was this? And so I
did mention it to one of my clients because she
was sitting in my office one day and I saw
her aura and it was this really bright but dark
blue indigo aura, and I thought, what on earth? Then

(26:47):
I can see auras. It's just never been really my focus.
And so she was super spiritual and I told her
and I mentioned the spirit babies around her, and she said, wow,
that's really interesting. So she went on our way that day,
came back of maybe a week or two later, and said,
I know why you're seeing them. And I said why
and she said because Walter died. Yes, I said what,

(27:12):
I didn't know that, and she says, handing the twenty yeah,
And I'm like, oh, great, thanks Walter. I have a
great process here, right, and this is good. So I
had released It's Conceivable, which the purpose of that book was,
in two thousand and five. I wrote it. I guess
I released it in two thousand and six, right at
the time that Walter released Spirit Babies coincidentally, right, Oh yeah, yes,

(27:38):
So people had actually sent me copies of his book,
and I guess vice versa, because there were some similarities
definitely in them. Although the first one was written to
to really let people know that this was an option,
because no one knew that it was. And to me,
hypnosis is the missing rook. You can tie everything together
so when everything else is not working or things start

(28:00):
quite falling into place that NICs does tend to unify.
So I call it the missing.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Like, yeah, it's a bridge.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yeah, So that's what that book was about, to let
people know that was an option. So come forward a
little bit. And then these spirit babies at showing up
and flying around everywhere, and I'm still sort of adjusting
to this. It's because you just came out right, yeah,
baby closets.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
The old had at this point. But I'm yeah, I'm
it's you.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
It's just right. It's a process though, and so eventually
the it just was more and more spiritual. I've always
been spiritual and included that and incorporated that in people's work,
but it just became more and more and it was
very divine, feminine. It was very there was a lot
of goddess focus in that divine goddess energy, which that's

(28:52):
really happening right now. As you can see in the world,
there's been a long standing patriarchy, and there's been a
lot of volatile a lot of greed, a lot of fighting.
And that's not to be anti man or male, but
it's an out of balance thing. Okay, we need to
We're all both. We're both masculine and feminine energies within.

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It's not a gender thing, it's a human thing. It's
a person thing. And then the energies around us are
also very masculine or feminine, and they should be middle
of the road. They should incorporate both. And so that's
part of the new book too, that the babies want
everyone to know about. And so this divine goddess info
was really coming through, and I noticed people that would

(29:39):
have fertility issues would often have a spiritual disconnect. So
whether it was God, I'm Catholic God, Christian God, however,
people to find God, Jewish God, whether it was universe,
whether it was Goddess. There was this feeling of being punished,
this feeling of if I'm not worthy, this feeling of
something's wrong with me, I'm broken. And I heard that

(29:59):
a lot, so I really was, Yeah, I was really
aware at that You're not broken, right, You're not broken,
But there is something that needs to come through and
that's the issue. So women that are on this journey,
it's a very spiritual journey. It's it's a huge opportunity
for growth. And I call it an initiation and I

(30:21):
talked about that in the book too. It is an initiation,
and initiations are not pleasant, they're not fun, they're not
meant to be. There is something here that is driving you,
and you can you can answer the call, like Joseph
Camvill's Hero's Journey, right, you can answer the call or
not and it'll keep on calling and then your life

(30:44):
really even if you don't answer the call, that was
your answer. So it's still it's still coming together. Doc Way.
So the second book, The Three Keys to Conception, I
wrote to incorporate more of that, and then backtracking a
little bit. It a few years ago I moved to
the station from Canada. So it was about nineteen ninety

(31:05):
three when I moved to the US, and I had
a lot of spiritual awakening stuff happening prior to that
and around that time, and I had taken a sort
of meditation actually Crystal in Essement type force, which was interesting.
I wasn't even particularly aware or interested in crystals, but
that was where I was guided to, so that was

(31:26):
really interesting. And we did this meditation to connect with
our spirit guides. And one of my spirit guys, I guess,
one of my main spirit GUIDs. I it's hard to
get words, so I call him at him. I guess
he's actually an infinity symbol and his name is Orb
And I learned this, and so we would do this automatic, right,

(31:49):
so that we could that's one way of learning to
communicate with your spirit guides. And so you would tune in,
do your meditation, tuning into your guide and just shake
up pen and you can do it with a computer,
typewriter whatever. I instant there and sort of wait, and
so I would get images or I would get words,
and the first word I got was meditate. So here
I am writing meditate, Meditate, Meditate, pages and pages of meditate.

(32:14):
Everybody else is getting all these things right, all these
all this advice, all of these, and I'm getting meditate
and I'm like, okay, and I'm doing this. I'm meditating
every day and I'm doing this class and all of this,
and I'm like, can please have another word?

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Like come on?

Speaker 3 (32:29):
I want something? Like everybody else is getting right, And
so after a while I get another word one word listen.
I'm like, okay, all right, I'm listening, okay, or I'm listening.
So now I'm getting listen, listen, listen, listen for weeks.
I know I'm not long. That went on a couple
of months, and I'm like, okay, I get it. Now

(32:52):
I'm meditating and I'm listening. So can I something else? Yes,
one more word trust, meditate, listen and trust. Oh my god,
I'm like, okay, this is so profound. But at the time, right,
it's like, come on, people are writing books, guides and.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Something of substance.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Meanwhile, that's that's like about the most profound information you
get in the in the universe. And here I'm kind
of like so so many years later, and this preceded
sort of an uninteresting journey of rental, the birth of
my second son, who wasn't supposed to arrive and was
kind of the almost the inspiration for this work for me,

(33:37):
because he told me he was coming and sent his
name ahead. And and here this is this is like
fifteen or more years before this whole spirit baby thing
in my office. Right, So so I'm going with this,
so that so as this book comes along to me,
it comes through and I get okay that you're going
to section this, and you're going to have three sections

(33:58):
in the book meditate, liston trust, and then you're going
to expand on on those things and tie this into
the spirit, babies and and what's really necessary for people
on this journey to do. Everybody in this world has
their own journey. People are on different journeys, and there

(34:18):
are various levels people on this particular journey, there's definitely
a spiritual piece to it. And the way I think
either the way I've been led is that much more
of that. So there's still fertility issues that are not
necessarily in this particular vein. I guess you could say, yeah,
that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Oh my gosh, it makes so much sense. Actually, That's
one of the things that that I've found in my
I found in my own fertility journey is that I
would push away spiritual stuff, push away, push away, push away,
and it kept knocking, that kept knocking, kept knocking, and
it ended up being one of the biggest areas of

(35:00):
growth for me that that I wrote about in my
book's coming out in the fall. Yay, But it's it's
very similar in that there's a In fact, my own
ability to connect to spirit babies came from my my
dedication to meditating and when when I began to connect

(35:22):
and they were like, I think before we began this interview,
you said something about spear babies can be bossy. That's
what it was. Like, I'm stop it, leave me alone.
They're like no, ha ha, And they kept like messing
with my radio and shit, and I'm like, what is this.
I'm not a medium, I'm not a psydechiced, I'm not
at much. So I called somebody who is, and I'm like,

(35:44):
what is this. I've never not one of those kids
that talk to dead people. I'm not always been highly sensitive.
But and she said, it's probably because you're you've been
meditating for a long time. It was like a year
at that point that I was dedicated to meditating, and
then I had healed my own fertility stuff, my trauma,

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Speaker 3 (36:54):
That you love. I wholeheartedly appreciate each.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
And every one of you. Thanks for listening, and I
hope to see you on Patreon soon. So as I'm
hearing from you, combined with my own experienced spirit baby
work is helping folks get quiet and listen and trust
that they are connecting with their own spirit baby right

(37:20):
and trust coming through. Yeah, it's really empowering. It's quite different.
Then I don't know what I'm doing in my life.
Let me go talk to a psychic. It's it's not that,
it's more I'm getting these messages and I and the
validation is amazing, thank you, That's.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
What That's the word I'm just thinking is validation this
stuff And then you get this validation which we don't need,
but we like, yes, and it's great. I mean, I
love it too, but we don't technically need it. Our
guides at the universe will be like, you don't need
the validation, but it's also part of part of the
process as well, and whenever and now, and this is

(38:02):
for years. But anybody who's psychic, and even anybody who
sends it to have oftentimes they'll just like that background
do you have? That's what they see around me. And
people are like cool, and babies, oh my gosh, and
animals are always trying to hang out with me. And
I was on an airplane at one point and I
always sit my husband and I we sit at the back,

(38:22):
second girl from the back. That's my favorite spot. And
you know, I just get on there. Nobody wants to
back these days, who knows, But I always fly Southwest
if I can. Did you get to pick I'm going
to the back my restroom there. Nobody really wants to
be there unless they have to be. And and so
so that's where we are. And there's this baby way

(38:43):
up at the toward the throne of the plane, and
this baby is trying to climb over her seats to
get to me. She sees me and she's like her
arms out, she's smiling, and she's making all her baby
sounds and her mother is trying to hold on to
this little baby. She's swirming over the sea and it's
just so funny. And so they'll they'll see me and
they'll they'll come to me in stores, which is not

(39:06):
always fun because it's like, I'm not the baby came
to me, here's your baby.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
I know, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, this is not a good time to be, yeah,
touching anybody's or baby, you're having a child come to you,
because it's just such a such a weird world that
we're in. But yeah, so it's kind of it's kind
of neat and and I know that that's where you're
at with that too, And the psychics and mediums are
going to tell you that kind of thing and and

(39:34):
you're aware of it at whatever level it is that
you're aware of it right now.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, well you well, I personally begin I'm beginning to
make these connections like, oh, no, wonder babies like me,
you know, wonder animals calm down around me. No, wonder
like that. So the more and more that I hear that. Ah,
that explains and stuff. But when I was growing up,
I grew up in my mom family is Hispanic, and

(40:02):
it was you don't you don't express feelings. If you
have feelings, no, you don't attend to them. You move on,
you get your shit done, and that's it. And so
I didn't. I didn't ever tune in to anything.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
I just pushed everything away.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
I was being dramatic, but if I felt things, and
that was not a good thing. So so I just
ignored everything. But now, of course I'm much more open
and aware of what's going on and beginning to own
by virtue of saying it publicly. This is a thing.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
And so another key word, right, owning that owning. Owning.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, yeah, And I like what you love what you
said about being able to trust what's coming through and
not needing real validation. Truly you want it but don't
need it. And that is part of the fertility journey too.
So we're tying all this into the fertility stuff. But

(41:04):
your your book, Oh my god, I can't wait until
this comes out. I just wanted to read a little
excerpt because people will understand what I mean by how
like profound. I'm just honestly, I'm just going to read
the very first line. Okay, this is the very first line.
As soon as I read this, I was like, oh god,

(41:26):
you first line to not the intro, are the first
the other person who wrotees form a client of yours. Yeah,
you're right, we stand upon the brink of a spiritual revolution.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Oh shit.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
I was like, oh, yeah, we need to have a
deeper conversation now, because it's true all of these things
that someone asked me recently, and we will tie us
back to spirit babies everyone.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
I I promise you that someone recently said to me.
I hope that all of this stuff that's happening, the
political charge that's in the air, black lives matter, social
justice stuff, coronavirus, I hope it's just so depressing and
I hope there's something on the other end. And I'm like, oh,

(42:20):
there is calling change. This is causing change. Oh that's
a that's a positive way of looking at it. It's
just something I know.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
I can feel it.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
And as soon as I read that line, I'm like,
I'm hooked. And I read the whole thing. You gave
me eight chapters, Thank you very much. It was generous,
and I just read. I couldn't stop. I read the
entire thing. So, so you're you're talking. Your book is
called Waiting in the Wings. By the way, Waiting in

(42:51):
the Wings introducing the Pink Starlights. Can you say when
it's going to be out published?

Speaker 3 (42:59):
I said, thank you. I started on this four years
ago for them, and then they had it like, let's go.
This is really urgent. And then they sort of said, Okay,
hang on, we need to do some other things first.
And so I have been the last promily a few weeks.
I've been really really trying to get it, and I
say suddenly we're like, we need this done, and so

(43:21):
drop everything the blessing thing, and I'm almost done. So
I have what you got was the first eight chapters
plus the intro, and the intro was the first chapter.
Now it's the intro. They had me move it. They
had me move several chapters around to end up where
they are at the eight There's twenty one chapters and
I have about three that I am polishing and then

(43:43):
it's good to go.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Oh, it's almost ready.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
And the one that I'm really working on is in
the middle of the chapters. I gave you and the
next chapters. So I'm like, if you guys would let
me finish this, then people could read rather than having
to read it out of order, although who knows, because
I know the chapters in a sense are their own,
their own thing, and they could probably move if they

(44:07):
wanted to.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, this is piggybacking on what you said in our
last interview a year ago. You said the babies are
making me write it. Yeah, and yeah, it's just that, right,
And they're moving things around and they're you're just receiving
the download as you say, right, I received downloads.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Right, And this is my process at this time. You know,
women are wearing babies, people are wanting babies right now
that are interested in this work. And this is my baby.
It just happens to be in book formed right now.
I cannot force it, I cannot control it. I cannot
make it happen. And that's that's a big part of

(44:46):
the work that I do is to help people. A
lot of times people are trying to let's bring their baby,
like I can. I'm going to make this happen. I'm
going to do this and this and this and this,
and it's going to happen, and then when it doesn't,
it's brutal, it's it's furtial all and that's because that's
part of this process, is that you can't make it happen.
That there is a balance that needs to occur. And

(45:08):
so I have to follow my own advice with this
book and with its timing. And I always say, your
baby's coming in just the right time and it just
the right way. And this is so true, and there's
things that you can do to support this. But part
of that is learning, is following the journey and being open.

(45:30):
So the other what I call the crux of my
work is balancing intention and surrender. Yes, now surrender doesn't
mean giving up, but it means allowing and receiving. Right,
It's what I had to do when I was seeing
these baby flying around. That's what you had to do
when this started to come through to you. It's basically
to say, yes, it's to surrender, and it's to let
go of attachment. Yeah, and let go of attachment. They

(45:54):
don't come on our schedule, especially pink starlights. Now, somebody
just to psychos have a baby. They have a baby.
That's just a whole different that's not your path. Yeah,
and so there's no point in comparing this person eats
nothing but tips every day, or drinking coke, this person
is a drug addictor or this person whatever the case is,

(46:14):
it doesn't matter because comparing is like the worst thing
we can do ourselves as humans. Whatever that is, how
much money, how skinny, how whatever. Skinny is the big
word for women, all of those comparisons. And it's just
staying with this. It's to be really centered on our
own path and is what is going on for us?

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Man, we speak the same language, and there's.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
A lot of that happening with with spirit babies. There's
quite a few very spirit baby readers out there and
used to sort of be psychics, would come through with
the babies. They would tell people, and again it seems
like it's becoming more of a specialty or more of
a thing. So the babies that I work with are
called the pinks Starlights. So nobody knows that at this point,

(47:02):
very few people. So you're literally introducing the pink star lights. Yeah,
that's that's their subtitle rating in the wings, introducing the
pink Starlights.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Oh my gosh, that's so cool. I'm getting chills right now.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
And so right and and it's and I talked a
little bit in the book about my friend who's a shaman,
and she and I are this this really I don't know,
long connection from from lives together and always in some
type of healing field, healing medicine, herbs, threeious things like that, midwives,
that kind of thing, and so we we've always been

(47:38):
really connected basically before we met, even basically in the world.
And I was talking to her one day and and
suddenly Davies kind of just came crashing in and our
energies really shift when we talk to each other. So
we're both really intuitive and we received a lot of information.
But when we're together, and that's probably occurring today too
with your me as you can see the zooe freezing

(47:59):
up every so, which is an electronic thing that the
spiritual energy can definitely have it on. And we were
talking this one day and suddenly she's like, hold on,
and I just just says something about spirit babies, and
she's like, wait a minute, Okay, they want you to
know that they're in these species, they're not just spirit babies,

(48:20):
and they're coming through they're different. They have a different,
purpose similar, bit different, and they'll give you their names,
they'll give you what they want to be called. So
up until then, they're just these generic spirit babies until
something around twenty sixteen. But you know, you've probably heard
of the Indigo children and their crystals and the ring boats,

(48:42):
and they've all, like the Indigos came to Earth to
really help to start break breaking down some of these
structures or some of the ways we have done things
and the beginnings of a lot of a lot of
the change that we've had for women and for like
the Black Lives Matter, But way before that even started,

(49:04):
and so back in rows of parts, the type of
time those and they were really they were really coming
through pretty tough dealing with pretty rough childhoods, pretty rough
lifetimes where they had to fight. They didn't fight and
had to be fighters.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
In that way, did they Indigoes?

Speaker 3 (49:21):
The Indigoes they had to be fighters. They had because
they had to break some stuff down, and so they
so they came through and then they could start to
pave the way from these for these other babies who
are coming through. So the pink Starlights, so we have
crystals and those are their auras. So their names come
from their auras. So indigoes are indigo aura, and then

(49:43):
crystals are I guess crystal like ports crystal aura, so
they can take on colors, and then rainbows are of
all the rainbow colors. So the pink Starlights came along
and said, well, that's our name, and it's because pink
is the color of unconditional love, and so that is
their energy that they're bringing through. So these other babies

(50:03):
have their own purpose, and not everybody's to go. Not
ibraisic crystal, not Evioy's a rainbow and ivis pink starlight.
This is just some of what's going on in our world.
So the babies that work with me, or the clients
that I end up working with, or the people that
I come into contact with, have a connection to the
pink starlinks whatever that might be, do.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
You, okay, So to be clear for people who are
very new to this world, these spirit babies are our spirits,
our entities that are going to incarnate, right, That's accurate, okay.
And so because you have this connection with and I'm thinking,
I'm sorry, I'm a little bit distracted by a recent

(50:47):
experience that I had with Rose quartz and all heart
heart chakra stuff like I can't, that's freaking crazy. That's
probably a different This is synchronicity again. But I've been
drawn to to rose courts and hard chaper stuff for
about for a good two months now, and I'm wondering

(51:08):
if there's a connection there, but there probably is, Thank you,
spirit babies. But so so these spirit these these pink
star lights that you're communicating with you, you can you
connect them to some of your clients, and they're going
to incarnate through some of your clients.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Is that accurate? Yeah, in a in a sense. And
I'll just tell you that they do. I do recommend
clients to get a rose quartz to connect in those daties.
And I think I mentioned it in the book, in
the new book, I think I'm pretty sure I get
sometimes I don't know what's in my head and yeah,
but I didn't know, yes, okay, yeah, right, rose quarts

(51:48):
as definitely an alignment because that is that s don't
have unconditional love. This is probably where I ended up
in that crystal course way back that I didn't think
I even wanted to take, right, yep, And it's kinding
really handy of knowing some of these things, having them
there as all of the rest of this has unfolded.
So the pink star Lights are basically a tight a species,

(52:10):
a generation. I don't know exactly how to turn that out.
And there's an accurate bird and they have they have
a colored directive. It all sounds like star trek, but
they have a directive, they have a purpose, and they're
coming in following all of these other energy shifting babies

(52:31):
and energies that have come through to help with that
planet transcendence that's happening on that spiritual shift that we're experiencing. Right,
So they're coming through to bring in a lot of luck,
unconditional love, and they're coming in in a balance, in
a super balance. Okay, they're coming here to unite the

(52:55):
masculine and the feminine. So they told me, as she
read in the first chapter, I think it's in the
first chapter in h direction of the book, that society
was going to be dismantled. Basically, they didn't tell me
it's going to be a pandemic, but they said this
is going to come down society, this patriarchy or the
way that things have been going, and it's really it's
the god of greed that is a really big problem

(53:16):
that kind of motivates everything, whether we're aware of it
or not, but especially with collective and so they're coming
through to help to balance that and to bring this love.
And it's not that we don't have love or that
the other babies haven't brought love, and babies are love.
All babies our love. That there is a particular energetic frequency.

(53:38):
And I say they're strategically placing themselves so they're being born,
they're choosing certain parents because the parents have something that
they need and I believe we all do that as bebies.
The Pink Starlites have certain parents that they need, and
they have parents that they really need to be open

(53:58):
and really willing to to look into things they haven't
maybe before, to be willing to. People could listen to
this and say that's that's insane and it is for them,
And then there's people that resonates with and they feel like, Wow,
this is what I needed to know And it could
be one little thing that we said throughout this whole

(54:19):
whole podcast that they needed to know, that they needed
to hear. And we need to experience all these things
one way or another, whether it's to help us clarify
that we don't feel like we're on a certain path
or that we are right.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
So, oh my god, Yeah, I just wanted I'm sorry
to no, no, that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
I just wanted to.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Comment on one part of your book that that's so resonated, well,
the first two chapters. There one thing that you mentioned
just now that is that you expanded on in the book.
Is this notion, this unconditional love piece right, and literally
that someone can be I think you mentioned a bunch

(54:59):
of religions. It could be this religion, that religion, you
could be this political affiliation, this political affiliation, and there
is literally no judgment. It's like, Okay, this doesn't resonate
for you, that's great. Okay, this resonates for you, that's great.
It really is.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Yeah, right, and that's their thing, no judgment. They don't care.
They just don't care about race or gender or they're
they're not anything in terms of pink. They're absolutely pink.
That's that's their thing, right, And that's what we need.
We need sort of this this like an independent or

(55:36):
individual something that we can focus on that doesn't lean
one way or another way. Or another way, pink the
color of line conditional love. So even to meditate on pink,
to light a pink candle, to have a pink rossports
that is aligning with that energy. And they're helping to
bring unconditional love in for the world and not just
for them, where for the people that they come into contact.

(55:57):
But that's that's what they're doing. And so much of
theirs is about balance. And we do have a lot
of things happening in the world right now, and this
has been coming for a long long time, and a
lot of the Native Native American trying to have predicted this.
There's a kind of yoga that has been predicted I'll
talk about that in the book as well, where things

(56:19):
are just basically coming down. We've abused the planet we have,
We've taken and taken and taken. So there's that greed, right,
so that has to balance, that has to shift, and
so that's their primary Your primary function is to bring
out it and to choose parents that are in positions
that will help that. So they have they choose very

(56:40):
intelligent like certain type but usually type A personalities Okay,
which makes me laugh because of course the type of
personality is the one that's trying to do everything. And
part of the initiation is not to do, is to be,
is to allow, is to receive. So that's that's part
of that. And I the type. I don't think a
type type A is a negative thing. It's just when

(57:03):
it's out of balance, anything that's out of balance, and
so they choose. It's kind of funny that the places
that they position in themselves. I'd have a global clientele,
and they tend I get a lot in Germany, I
get a lot in I started getting a lot going
on in Japan, and in fact I have now taken
on a partner where we are launching in Japan and

(57:26):
we're supposed to kind of do that this year, but
some things happened and so but we're also she has
translated everything because Japan is in an extreme need for
this energy at this time, and so we do have
some translation going on in the German as well. Japan
is just kind of the one that's in the forefront

(57:46):
right now. So yeah, so it's kind of following as
these things happen. Being aware feeling that resonates for you
or not is stuff doesn't resonate for you, doesn't resonate
for me or anybody, but but being open enough to
be able to feel what that is, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Not judging if it resonates with somebody else well exactly.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
And I had a joke that a couple of my
babies placed themselves in Washington or the connection too. I
won't go into the specific e spent. And they want
to have parents that are gonna say, Okay, you want
to be a vegetarian, Okay, you might go to yoga class. Okay,
you wannaa whatever it is, you want to meditate, Okay,
we're gonna We're not gonna say no. We're not gonna

(58:32):
say you don't do that, you can't do that. We're
gonna we're gonna look at but at the same time,
we're gonna have structure and boundaries so the kid doesn't
control the whole show, which is an issue that we've
run into too for a while, where people just don't
give the kids any structure or boundaries, so they can't
do what they're here to do because they're kind of
turning water and splashing around and trying to figure out

(58:55):
what they're supposed to do on their little kids.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Yeah, that was a big part of the last chapter
I think that I read chapter eight was this balance
between independence and structure and guidance. So, yeah, research has
been done for decades around parenting and how that.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Style is the most effective.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Do you think that or I guess The question that
I have is how do you help people your clients
connect with their spirit babies. And I suppose not every
spirit baby is a pink starlight right right, But how
especially if they are a pink star light, do you

(59:38):
talk to people about that and help them connect with
their spirit baby pink star light or otherwise?

Speaker 3 (59:49):
How do you do that? That's kind of interesting because,
like I say, I'm not a psychic, so people aren't
really I don't do readings per se. This comes as
a part of the process that I used to work
with them. And so it is, let's say my client
and I would do an intake with you, and notice
any spirit babies that might be flying around or sending
me intel and there, and it's the baby. It's part

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of the baby's process. And I will say, the babies
are my clients, not you, not not the parents. Right
in nine off, they just you pay the bill, but
the baby is the one who sets this up At
this point in time of the work that I'm doing
just because I guess that's where I'm that's my focus
or that's why I'm being told to focus by the
bossy Babies, is in bringing this awareness to of the

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pink starlights and of that particular process. And that's that's
part of the book because I can reach a lot
of people that way. I can only see so many
people and they want to come through, and it's not
about me. It's just something where I've become aware of
it and I guess been it's part of my path
to help to get it out there. So when people
do work with me privately though, their baby is a

(01:00:58):
part of that process definitely. And so I use I
send on my own blend of things that I do
because I need use hypnosis or hypnotic process and then
I use a lot of energy type work and I
don't do hands on I can, but it's just not
what I do. It's just a part of who I am.
And then I use hypnotic some hypnotic structure and technique

(01:01:20):
to help to create or connect with the subconscious mind
to help clear any blocks that might be going on.
My clients are usually like I say they're intelligent, they're
well educated, they're very driven, they're type A, so they're
also usually very frustrated, feeling broken, feeling that they're being punished.
They take responsibility for everything. They're the ones scouring the internet,

(01:01:44):
they're the ones researching on the clinics, they're the ones
that are are really putting that on themselves. So that
has to be addressed as well, because that's where that
that doing takes over, and that's where that becomes out
of balance. So that's masculine. That's an expression of masculine
energy out of balance, out of balance, Like we have

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an expression of feminine energy out of balance when we
don't take care of ourselves and we care too much
about everybody else and at our own expense, And that's
sort of that martyr arbe type that we're aware of.
Being a martyr is not a good thing, right when
people say, oh, that person's like Murdyer, that's not a
good thing. That means that they have just sacrificed themselves

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just for anything and everyone, whether regardless, because that's just
basically coping mechanism that they have. We have to do
our work, We have to do our own working. Starlights
are not interested in parents that haven't done their work.
It won't do their work then is definitely one of
the doubt As an indigo. They basically wanted parents that
hadn't done their work because they're going to have this

(01:02:47):
miserable like I'm an indigo. I found out you can
there's an indigo test you can do. It makes sense, Yeah,
you can look for it online. It's like a thing.
You just search for indigo adult something like that, and
you can do it. And I did it and bring
to every every I think all if not maybe just
one I wasn't that I didn't sell in a little
blank for And so with the Pink Starlights on the

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other hand, they want their parents to do their work.
Now they may not have done yet, but they're in
the process of the end boy, and initiation like this,
that's where it's going to take you. Yeah, or you're
going to resist it like crazy, and then that's your
path as well. Right, does that make sense? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
And actually I'm connecting this to the global because when
people pick up your book, they're going to see this
is so much more global than babies and parenthood and
fertility stuff because the work that you're talking about specifically
for parents to be able to bring in pink starlights.

(01:03:47):
Is that same kind of work, that the same kind
of change that's that you're talking about happening globally, Like
this balance and this surrender and the action steps, the
willingness to see the other side with love and to
accept the other side with love, and all of that

(01:04:08):
is inherent if one chooses in the fertility world. Because
this is such a jarring experience. So I love, Oh
my gosh, I'm just making all kinds of connections, So
thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
It's really awesome. And I should probably clarify it just
because their own conditional love doesn't mean that they're just very,
very flimming all around. Right, They're can to accomplish some things.
And a lot of people are really stressed out over
what is going on in political arenas, not just in
the US, but in the world, because again there's that
there's that volatility, and then there's that there's violence, and

(01:04:45):
there's there's greed and all of that kind of thing.
And so what's happening with these babies is they're going
to be bringing in and teaching in one way or
another about this unconditional lover about this lack of judgment
might even be a better way to put it. And
so let's say twenty thirty forty years from now, those
those people that are are sort of in control right now,

(01:05:09):
that still sort of our hanging on or still have
a lot of that old way, they won't be there.
And it will be thing stylites or people who have
who have done their their work right, their psychological work right,
to've done their taking care of their issues, and those
are going to be the people who are going to
be taking positions let's say, you know, office, so we're

(01:05:31):
in schools or wherever kind of thing, and bringing in
a whole different way of looking at things instead of
just always dropping back what we've always had for So
that does that make sense? So it's not like they're
not just going to be like event like floaties around.
They're coming into bodies, the bodies. They don't care where
they come from or what gender they are or any

(01:05:52):
of that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
It's just it's going to be this energy that is
that is coming through, has already begun coming through, is
going to build on the work of the indigoes and
the crystals and the rainbows, and all the other people
that are part of the planet, all the all the
beings of the planet, the planet and her inhabitants, the
stone people as the Native Americans call them, and that

(01:06:15):
people will to treat people all of those energies and
the water and the winds and all of that not
not just humans.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
We're not it. We think we're it, like we're just
a being all in the end all, but we're not.
But we do. We're in a position to help with
a lot of that healing just because of where we are. Yeah,
you could say.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Yes, it's funny because I was thinking my next question
was are they here yet? And then you said they
started coming already there, thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Yeah, right, right, And they are here and they have
been here. It's just I guess at this time they've
decided to they've decided to identify as pink star lights
rather than spirit babies per se.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Yeah, yeah, right, So you are there other folks in
the in the same arena, in a similar arena talking
about this particular and I don't know what the word is,
like you generation or.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Right, And I don't really know. I don't really know
because this has sort of been going on in my world,
and I do feel we all have a world within
the world, and so we have a lot of choices
about those worlds, and we can create a world by
watching three hours of the news every day. We can
go down a bunch of rabbit holes in conspiracy theories

(01:07:35):
that can create our world. We all don't live in
those worlds, right, we don't all, And so in my
in my world, it's been very much about the pink
stylet their energy, their purpose and helping to align them
with their parents and bring them through. That's just where
mind us all kind of evolved. Very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Well, this is so exciting to be.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Absolutely and I've seen like all me clients that have
come to me to help to bring in their baby
and they have another child, and it's like I can
just feel that pink starlight energy coming throwing that child.
And people have pink starlights that don't know me or
didn't see me. It's just I guess my purpose from
I place my path right now to help to make

(01:08:22):
this awareness out there. I don't believe anyone has actually
called them pink starlights, because that's the name they gave
me in meditation, and they gave me a specific meditative
journey or experience. That's sort of what they used to
sort of kick off from if you Well, they took
me on a journey to the way into the cosmos

(01:08:44):
to what turned out to be a pink star star
that was of unconditional love, and I'm a journey there
and I would take clients there and sort of a
whole process. And then so it was one day in
meditation that oh, that's who you are, the pink Starlights,
that's who we are where the pink star lights. This
is this star, this is a place where and I

(01:09:05):
will have that journey in the book. It will be
in the book so people can do it and they
can go go through that process. And it's definitely one
way of aligning with pink star Lights with the spirit babies.
So yeah, there's does that have two questions? Does that
make sense? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
It answers it and so much more. Yes, no, good,
there's there's a depth to this. I can sense a
depth to this book and only the few chapters that
I got that's that's gonna feed souls. I think it's
just gonna feed souls. So, my god, we could talk forever,
but alas we have to is there anything else that

(01:09:46):
you would like to add before we go?

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Well, I thought this was funny. I meditate every day.
I do combine that with some reiki and some other
energy work. I do my meditation and I sit with
my plans and my dogs won't have to be there,
and then I'll usually I've got a goddess guidance card deck,
barcle deck, and so I'll pick a card. So today
I don't always do a bit. Today, I thought, ill
to see what I get for today, for this, for

(01:10:11):
this podcast. So here's what I got. I don't know
if you can see that. Ah, I see what she's got. Yes,
I see, so's it's Irene peace and there's no need
to worry as everything is working out beautifully. And that's
really so much of the spirit baby work, whatever it is,

(01:10:35):
is to really help to facilitate peace and to know
and to trust that the baby's coming in just the
right time and in just the right way. That takes
some work. In a lot of cases, it's not easy
to just say that, because then we feel like we're
giving up or we're feeling very cool. That might mean
that I won't have any children, might mean this that
or the other. Well, that's where trust and faith comes in.

(01:10:56):
Is that surrendered because you still can't control it? You
know what I mean? It is that letting go. And
I had a client years ago she said to me,
she said, well, lindsay, if I could just have a
psyche tell me that I am for sure going to
have this baby a boy or girl on this day.
Let's say I don't know November fourth, I don't know,
twenty sixteen. But then I would know for sure and

(01:11:19):
I could just let go and go about my life.
And I said, no, you wouldn't take you. As soon
as you heard that, you'd say. I wonder if that'
psyching knows what she's talking about. I wonder how good
she She could have been wrong. I don't know. If
I'm supposed to have a boy and it is supposed
to be a girl, Well what if I change? What
if this happens, What if that happens? What if November
whatever Dad I said gets here and the baby's not
here And she's like, Okay, yeah, you're right, you're right,

(01:11:44):
and it's just true. And any of us with that
type of personality, it all no matter what it is
we want, it's a manifest to create. We do that,
and the Buddha is very well known for or we've
heard this from Buddhist philosophy that peace. We have to
have peace before we have to be able to have
it without the things that we want. Peace comes first,

(01:12:07):
and we tend to think we need all these things
and then we'll have peace. I need this amount of money,
I need this house, I need this baby, I need
these two babies exactly thirteen months apart. I need this
and I need that, and then I will have peace.
But we don't because theres always there's always more things,
there's always shifts, things change, the environment, their planet, things

(01:12:29):
are changing, and so really cultivating peace is really that huge,
just so important. And then here's that card. Here she
is Irene, goddess of peace, and a whole thing of
baby in her arms. And I don't think I've ever
been gotten this card before. I don't recall that this

(01:12:50):
was today's card. So I think it was really about
let's emphasize peace above anything. Yeah, and all this I.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Love that, Oh beautiful, And I think exactly how we
need to end with peace with the rose pinkish orbs
behind me.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Unconditional lab and definitely just see its peace, and we
can find peace no matter what's going on. And even
if we just find a moment's piece, yeah, okay, even
just loves your eyes for a moment and maybe say
with your your dog or your cat or your plant
or something your rose quarts, and even if it's just
for a moment, because the more that we the more

(01:13:31):
we do that, the more we can the more the
brain waves, the neural pathways shift, the more our energies shift,
and the more of that alignment with that that frequency
than that piece.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Yeah, I feel like it's so much more powerful too,
and helps you move forward in a more what's the
word I'm looking for, Like in a smooth, easy way
rather than this constantly fear pace thinking and being that
that balance between I'm seeing the fear of dealing the
fear and I'm also going to cultivate love is so

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powerful and helps you move forward.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
Absolutely, And an awareness of the poet We would always
talk about being only because we can be. We're wandering
around the world, but we can still be asleep. We're
just not aware. Right, there's a lot of awakening going
on now. You're really all seeing it in so many arenas.
For sure, and you just reminded me of something. But
when you said that, fear masquerades is intuition, and once

(01:14:32):
our intuition gets messed up, then we are just reacting
to things and maybe making decisions that aren't best for us,
because if we were balanced during a piece, we would
intuitively know and fear. You think it's your intuition because
it yells at you and I got to do this
right now. You can't do that. If you don't do it,
this is what happens. And that's that's not intuition. Intuition

(01:14:55):
is that knowing, and it is feeling at peace with
that that you knowing there was time was like me
knowing and saying yes and just feeling okay, there's a
piece with that. There's an intuition with that that is
God give me direction, and that I'm resonating with as
opposed to that. Yeah, I just had to throw that

(01:15:16):
out there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
True. No, it's true. Intuition doesn't yell.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Right right, And there's so much fear yelling right now,
and and it's a collective and it's so easy to
be exposed to it, even if you're practically in your
house all the time. It's just there. So it's it's
in our unknowble worlds that we do all have and
we can incorporate and food other people in our world
and to be careful who and what we necessarily want

(01:15:42):
in our word worlds. But we can really choose to
have more peace.

Speaker 6 (01:15:48):
Make sure, make sure, can lindsay thank you so so much.
I can't wait to thank you, thank you so much
for having me on. I'm so excited the Davies, thank you.
This is just awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
Thanks so much for me. I appreciate it all right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
I know I went way over the time of what
I typically do on these podcasts, but geez, do you
not love Lindsay Eastbourne. She's fabulous. And speaking of which,
I am running a giveaway today if you're on my
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(01:16:25):
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Fertility Center looking forward to that. That's going to be
a good time. I'm always giving stuff away on that list.
It's just a regular party over there.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Until next time, guys, may be well and happy, and
may you know that miracles are on their way to you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
Be welcome