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The Republican Zone is brought to youby Drew Murray. Good afternoon, you're
watching USLA Media and the Republican Zone. I am your host, Drew Murray,
and I'm here with my good friendLynnwood Holland, the current ward leader
of Philadelphia's thirty fifth Ward. Thecurrent Republican Ward leader of Philadelphia's thirty fifth
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Wards. So, welcome, thankyou, thank you. I don't think
you've ever been on my show before, you've been you've never been here,
so so welcome back. And Ithink you said a couple of years since
you've been here. Anyway. Thanks. So I always tell people and you
know, and I just, uh, yeah, I was talking to Rob
Jordan earlier, and when I talkedto him, you know, people are
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surprised that they hear, well,there's a Republicans who are part of the
LGBT community. And a lot oftimes when I tell people about the ward
leaders in the city of Philadelphia,they're like, well, all the ward
leaders look like you, Drew,and I said, that's not true.
And so we have a lot ofblack ward leaders. You're obviously you're one
of them. And there there arethere, there's carnal, there's Shield,
there's Leonard. You know, peoplehave the stereotype like, you can't be
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black and conservative. I tell peoplesome of the most conservative people that I
know are are black, and it'sjust it's just it's just not true.
And obviously you've you've been a Republicaneven longer than I have. I've been
a Republican for how many well overthirty years? Wow, So were you
ever a Democrat? Uh? Idon't think I haven't. Wasn't there now?
So yeah, thirty years, youcan't. I assume we're around the
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same age. But I have noidea how old you are. You're one
of those people. I don't knowif you're forty or sixty or somewhere in
between. You somewhere in between.Yeah, over in one of these it
wasn't with the gray hair and yourbeard. I'm getting a little bit.
I would say that you were likethirty five years old. But uh,
but yeah, you're one of thosepeople. Hard to nail down your exactly.
So, yeah, you're you've beena Republican in your whole life.
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And and are people surprised as ablack man where it's like, oh,
I'm a Republican, I'm a conservativewhen you when you tell them you're a
Republican, are they surprised? Probablynot now, not now, early on
because it was really new then.Some most people looked at me and said,
uh, are you sure? Areyou confused? Oh no, I'm
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positive. Yeah, these are thevalues and I and here too, so
I think they are good values.You know, absolutely no, and a
lot of and I explain a lotof a lot of that to people.
People are like, well, you'reyou're your pro LGBT, you're pro union.
That means you have to be ademocrat. I tell people to be
conservative or liberal. It's really onething. It's from a conservator standpoint.
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What I tell people definition is,at least to me, is small government,
low taxes, you know, theyou know, free market capitalism.
I mean, that's that's what Ilook at conservativists and the same way.
Yeah, a lot of people like, well, you're your pro LGBT,
that means you have to be aDemocrat. Like that's it's absolutely balston And
And you know, when I talkedto Robert there's there's a lot of people
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in the LGBT community who are conservatives, who are actually very conservative. Because
another thing, and this is interestingwhen I talk to people, if you
look at it and you look atthe vaccines that you know, dor code.
I always give this the example ofpeople this story. Yeah, well
it's you know, people are like, well, my body, my choice.
If I don't want to put avaccine in my body, I don't
want the government in my life.Well, if you think about it,
that's that's LGBT community. It's likethey want to be able to do what
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they don't want to be judged.They wouldn't you know, they would love
who they love. They want thegovernment out of their business. Government,
you would think from an LGBT standpoint, it's well that's that's probably should be
more more conservative. And honestly,even you know, pro life, pro
choice, the vaccine, my body, my choice, they kind of they
kind of borrowed that from from frompro choice people. I always tell people,
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I think pro choice and pro ALGBTshould be in the conservative side.
I think they are conservatives. Yeah, a lot of people are conservative.
They don't know, I mean untilyou just broke it down for them.
But they got to look at theSouthern AMR say oh, those qualities defined
by me, and look, I'mPROLOGBT, I'm pro life, so you
know, and there are a lotof people are PROLOGBT. I'm pro choice.
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There's not there's not one one rule, you know, I said,
I say, I think for myself, but I can't tell you how many
people I talk to it. AndI'm like, well, do you like
you want low taxes? Do thisand this? And I asked them like
three or four questions and they sayyes, yes, yes, And I
said, well, welcome to theRepublican Party. And they head upset and
oh no, no, no,no, I don't like Trump. But
I'm like, that has nothing todo with it. It's the same thing
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to me with free speech. Imean, some things you don't want to
hear, but you have to hearif you can't have it both ways.
If it's gonna be free speech,it's free speech for everybody. Yeah.
And my father's very probably has verysimilar use to me, but he is
he's like, I'm a Democrat.I'm like, why are you a Democrat?
He's like, I've been a Iwas I was a teacher, and
i was a you know, I'man Irish Catholic. Because if you were
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an Irish Catholic, you were aDemocrat. An Irish Catholic teacher. You
were definitely a Democrat. It's like, I'm an Irish Catholic, I was
a teacher and and and he alwaysends up like this and I hate Trump,
and I'm like that, you ain'tdrump all you want, Like,
I don't understand that. But youknow, when you think about it like
that and you think about your father, those were some different values that the
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party had. Then they've changed drastically. I'm not a Democrat, but I've
seen the progression, one of thedigression in the party, and they're not
the same Democrats when I was growingup exactly, I say, you know,
I tell people say, why didyou leave the Democrat Democrat Party?
I said, I didn't leave partyof the party left me age. I
said, just got sup perggressive foryou, like I'm When I was a
Democrat, I was, I guessI was. I was a Kennedy Democrat.
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And I said, and it's noteveryone in the party by any means,
but I just felt that the partywas going to you far left.
I thought, I thought the progressivemovement, that Bernie Sanders of the world,
we're taking too much of a holdon that party. And I feel
like I see a little bit ofa swing back. We'll see. But
one of the reasons I had youon the show is you are candidate,
the Republican candidate for Philadelphia Register ofWill. So congratulations one I'm getting on
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the ballot. I take congratulations againthrough the primary. But you didn't have
much competition. Then that's funny.The hardest thing. A lot of times
you're runnings are revolt again and tosee Philphia is getting those getting those signatures,
those signatures are a big deal.It's it's a BIG's incredibly challenging.
I mean we actually go and knockeddoors. Yeah, we have to.
Yeah, we have to go knockdoors because we can't just and I'm jealous
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of people who can. This isnot disparaging. I said, I can't
just go to a parking oh andask people to sign because ninety percent of
them would be bad. Ninety fivepercent would be bad. The supermarket.
Yeah, and just think if youheaded that way, you can stand outside
the supermarket in a few days,then you have all these signs exactly.
Yeah, and there'll be some andthere'll be bad ones, but and look,
we get bad ones even when we'reknocking on doors sometimes because people say,
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oh, yeah, I'm a Republicanand they forgot that they switched back
because they wanted to vote against LarryKreisner or you know something like that,
or they were they moved and forgotto change their registration. So yeah,
we got bad signatures too, Butyou know, it's a Democrat. You
can go there and even if thirtypercent of them are bad you and if
you get if you get three thousandsignature and by just doing it that way,
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then you're fine. Republicans were justknocking on doors, knocking on wells,
and then we're sort of restricted toa certain number in the neighborhood.
I mean, every neighborhood doesn't havea good population of Republicans exactly. When
you have to go out and getsignatures, most of the time you're going
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to have to go to the neighborhoodsthat you've never been to. Yeah,
or even like for me, Iyou know, I live in Center City.
For three weeks when I was gettingpetitions for city council, I lived,
I lived in Northeast Philadelphia. Itwas every day got in the car
and drove up twenty thirty minutes dependingon where it was in the northeast,
whether it's sixty third ward or fiftyseventh and got signatures that way. So
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then there's the travel time incorporated.Because I do not knocked doors in Center
City because number one, there aren'tmany Republicans. And number two, people
don't answer their door in Center City. Everybody everyone has the ring doorbell in
Center City. And then it isstarting to spread all around the city.
Now it's getting harder. And justsee you stand they just see they look
at it. Right, tell stories. I knock on the door and I
see the person in the room,like in the living room, and they
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look at their phone. They lookat their ring doorbell, and they're like
and they put the phone down.They continue watching. Yeah, you're saying.
They're like and and so the funniestthing was when I saw someone they
were like, I'm not home rightnow, and I'm sitting there. I'm
like, I'm looking at you rightnow talking to your phone and saying down.
It's so hard. But why don'tyou tell Why don't you tell people
what the Register of wills does?Because I'm going to venture a guess,
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two thirds of the people in thiscity don't even they know what has to
do about wills, but it's somuch more. It's about deeds and things
like that. What what what doesthe Register of Wills do? Deeds,
marriage certificates, orphans court which isnever mentioned because you know, when you
think of registered wills, they justautomatic thing. It's just about wills and
that's it. Uh. It hasa lot to do with titles to properties
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in the city, which I thinkis probably one of the biggest things that
people don't really have a knowledge of. Sure if they had the knowledge of,
hey, this property someday should goto my family member if I do
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the right things. And most ofthe people in the city don't know the
right things to do, and mostpeople, uh don't have the kids on
a d which is a simplified wayof doing things. But to be more
seriously, people need to know abouttrusts and wills. You really need to
be educated on them. And thatcould be looked at a different way.
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I don't know if I'm saying thataround the state, they probably slapped me
in the back of the head.What about our taxes? You know,
but even I mean, you stilldon't have to pay taxes, but just
educate people on how to make itmoderate. So that they don't really hurt.
Sure, it's called it's called atangle d and it happens all the
time, and it's you know,you're right that people don't look. You
don't want to think about dying,but you have to think about dying.
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Yeah, if you own your homeand you don't have your child on your
deed or someone on the deed,or you don't, I would say the
majority of people in the city filloff. They probably don't have a well
they don't. They don't have awill, so they don't have a will,
so they die. And I betmost people think, oh, well,
I'm just gonna it's my mother died. You know, my father passed
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the houses in my mother's name.My mother died, it's mine. Sometimes
they're even living in the house,so it's like, oh, I'm living
in the house, this is thisis mine, And all of a sudden
they have a tangled deed. Soreality sets in when they try to make
a move in the house. Okay, sure you can get the electric,
gas and anything, because you canhave a lease anything. But if they
try to do anything as far asselling a house, liquidating any kind of
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assets or home, they're not ina ballpark. They can't even talk to
him because they're not considered the ownon the property. Yes, to be
able to make that kind of dealand unfortunate. Important is this is where
you want to be need to bein legislation to help, because I think
from all the studies that I've done, this is going to take an act
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of legislation to make it a littleeasier for the people that we can say
definitely are the owners of the property. Well, I think it's about communication,
right and education, you know,I would that's part of what the
Register of Wills, you know,either should be doing now or should improve
in the future. Get out tothe communities that excuse me, I have
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no idea. I've never heard ofa tangled title or and so it doesn't
if it doesn't affect their lives,then they're not even thinking about it.
Get out to the community and explainto people very simply. You know,
if you don't, if you don'thandle this before you die, then your
children will be handling or your niecesor nephews will be handled handling it.
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And it's a lot easier to handleit now than it is then. And
then you know, when people getin that situation, they compound it because
now I'm not going to pay taxesbecause I don't have the legal rights of
his property. So after a while, then the house's foreclothes completely. So
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it's just education piece. I think, just teaching people how to manage these
type of things, we'll save thema lot of problems in in the long
run. I mean, personally,I had a situation where my mother in
law passed away and my wife,you know, divided the assets with the
siblings and everything's fine. One wasn'tuntil seven months later that we actually got
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some notice from the states and theseare the taxes and everything to you.
But she had already divided the moneyup, so everything came back to her
because she was the benefits. Hear, Oh okay, so all of a
sudden, had she known that,maybe she would have put some aside and
say, okay, I gotta attacks. That's when you call the Simmons and
say, hey, that money Ijust gave you gotta give a little bit
of a back. But you knowwhat, sometimes it's a lot easier to
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give money to take it back.They coming back is not as easy.
And that's a good point. Inever thought about that. So if there
is an issue with the deed,and maybe you don't know this answer if
if if if my father passed andI took ownership of the house, but
but I wasn't on the wheel oranything like that. But I just think
I do could I pay those taxesif I'm not on the deed or I'm
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not you know, I'm not onthe title. I don't like who who?
I don't think the city's going todeny you pay Okay, yeah,
okay, so yeah, yeah,they'll take the money. But yeah,
but it won't give you any uh, it won't give you any favor as
far as getting the property. Itjust means that you won't know the tack.
Yeah, yeah, I didn't eventhink about that. If you don't
know, if you're not on thetitle, how do you pay taxes?
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But you know, I guess you'reright. If you're write a check to
the City of Philadelphia, they're they'recertainly gonna cash up. Yea. But
yeah, so that that's a lotof things that that people just don't understand,
and that is what the registered willsdoes. So so that's one thing
you had mentioned. The Orphan's court. The Orphan's Court is a little am
I. In my opinion, itsort of runs on the same pattern as
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the deeds. You know, sometimefamily members die early. There's no plan.
I mean, there's no plan fordeath anyway. I mean, there's
no plan for anything to happen toyour children when you die. And that's
something that they need to be educatedon too. I mean, because now
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if your children become awarded the state, then they go into the foster care
system and then you know, tryingI've seen people try to recover their family
over the years, and it takesa lot of years to find where somebody
want. There are privacy issues thatyou had to deal with, So that
is a big education piece too.And how do you go tell a person,
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hey, you might die, yes, and you know, we need
you to take care of this withyour children. So we need to find
them way to educate them where benefitsthem. But it doesn't look like we're
like telling them what to do.It's one of those things people don't think
about it because look, if yourhusband and wife and one dies, and
obviously you know, if the husbanddies, then then the wife obviously,
you know, automatically has you know, has has the children. But a
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lot of community. You know,if you're they probably think, oh,
well, I'm with my grandmother.You know, I'm with my mother the
great, you know, the grandmotherof the children, and they think,
oh, they live in my house. It's automatic, but it's not automatic.
The only thing that's really automatic isthe husband or when the mother and
father, a husband and wife,if if they're together, that's the only
time it's automatic. So your situationturns to this, Now, who's the
rightful I don't want to say airas the but who's the guardian now of
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the children? And that can bereally difficult sometimes because sometimes maybe family members
don't have the capacity to take kidssure, and then it becomes a difficult
situation. Or if you have aparent says I'm gonna take this kid and
basically they're on their own. Thenunless they can get some laws that help
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them get need to take care ofthe child and you know, the rights
to take take responsibility want of child'schild. You know. So those are
the things that people don't really lookat. And I'll be honest, I
never looked at him either. Iwalked through life thinking about, you know,
whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen,and that was not That's not the
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way to handle well, you know, who wants to talk about death.
Who wants to you know, toto look in the mirror and think about
their own their own mortality. Uh, you know, and some people just
don't know it like I did knowit. I mean, I knew,
you know, I have it setup that you know in my will,
you know, even even you know. And it's funny, I was for
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for years. I was, Ibought, I bought my house. So
I used to joke with my wife, you live in my house. She
doesn't think that's funny, But Ithink I always thought because I bought,
I bought the als first before wegot married. So but even I I
mean, and it took a longtime because it was one of those things
I kept I kept putting it off. My wife was not on the deed.
Yeah, it's probably a little easierthan because we were we you know,
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were married. But it was actuallyonly a few years ago that that
we ended up putting her own thedeed. And it was and you know
the only reason we did it wasbecause when the rates fell and we we
we refinanced our house. That's whenwe did it. You know, I
bet a lot of people, youknow, are the same way I got
my wife moved in the house.She's it's automatic and and it's a little
different then it it's a little easier, but you're right, you know,
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I think you don't even think aboutthat. Yeah, that might be a
little easy, but it's still goingto be financially burnsome on the spouse doesn't
leshure, so it might be alittle easier to obtain the property, but
she's still going to have some Andthere are things just when you know,
it's even a few and people don'tthink about this, like Okay, I'm
gonna give the house to my tomy son, to my to my daughter.
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There are tax implications. So youknow, if the house is worth
one hundred thousand dollars, that's likeyou're getting one hundred thousand dollars, so
you're gonna have to pay like you'regonna have to pay attack on that.
A lot of people don't think aboutthat, and it's like, oh,
this is awesome, I got ahow well, you do have a house,
but now you've got to pay canyou afford it? Can you well?
The taxes, because right away youhave to pay forget back taxes on
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the real estate taxes. You haveto pay tax because that's a gain.
And there are things that you cando and a will and through a deed
to in order to pass it downa generation where they're not going to have
that that burden because a lot ofpeople, if you got a hundred thousand
dollar house, you don't have thirtythousand dollars in liquidity sitting sitting in the
bank that you can pay. It'sgreat, you still make out, but
a lot of times that happens.You get the house and you got to
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sell it because you need the onlyway to pay for those taxes is to
sell the home. And it couldbe a home that was in your that's
been in your family for a generation, and that's hard on people. So
now that goes a little bit,probably even by on what you do that's
more financial planning. It is stillsomething that that you can educate people on.
And I've noticed through my campaigning throughoutthe city and educating people. I
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call them my educational tour. Alot of people I'm like, oh,
I'm going to get a will.Now you know I'm going to get are
they know the impact of not havingit being told and then you're gonna have
some population that you didn't procrastinate andstill don't get it. But what I
was hoping to do is the samecommunities that I'm visiting now, and that's
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and for their support. I wantto be there to support them. I
want to be able to come backin their community and say, hey,
you know, maybe we can geta pro bonal situation going on where we
can give two hours in your community, people come out and get wills you
know, done and process. It'sjust a way of giving something back to
the people who you expect, whoexpected from you. So I'm looking at
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it like that. A lot ofpeople are getting educated right now. If
they're not voting, they're getting educatedat least. And it's not it's not
that difficult to have it. Imean, now you can do it online.
I did it online. I hadI had a friend who was who
was an attorney, so he helpedme do it online. He did a
pro bono. I didn't pay him. He was the best fan of my
wedding, so I told him Ineed a little I need I need a
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little bit of help. But wedid was probably as at wills dot com.
It was one of those. Youknow, it was not It wasn't
that difficult. Anyone can do it. You know, it's probably like you
know, I don't even know whatyou spend now, maybe it's fifty bucks,
it's about so it's it's just knowingthat you have to do it.
Maybe maybe there's a little bit,you know, you might need a little
bit of help. But I meanI remember it being pretty easy. And
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I just had my friend who wasan attorney. I just had him.
I did it, I printed it, and I emailed it to him.
I said, it's this good.Maybe you have me change a little bit,
but you know, for the mostpart, you can. Anyone can
do it. And it's not it'snot that expensive. I'll tell you about
another type of situation, and uhis pretty die every when it comes to
people passing away and not being prepared. Husband and wife, some husbands and
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wife have don't have joint accounts,they have separate bank accounts. I think
that's the secret to a happy marriage. And I will tell you I have
a seven bang and get them.But uh, some point along the way,
maybe get your wife's name on it, get your husband's name on it.
You don't have to tell them rightaway. But if something happens,
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you're right, they were on it, and now they have access because in
a lot of these situations I talkedto people, they tell me these stories.
They don't have the money to burythe person because the person had the
money and so they can't get themoney. Yeah, my wife is not
on my bank account. Yeah,so I mean it's like it's like bathrooms
to see secrets of having marriages,separate bathrooms, bank accounts more than one
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exactly. Oh yeah, yeah,we have two daughters, so we have
we have two an a bath soit still isn't it isn't perfect. But
uh, now you're right. Inever even thought about that. Now I
keep you know, we we havea joint account. We have two accounts
that we keep and then we dohave a joint accounts. So the joint
account. Yeah, so that's that'syou know that I don't keep a whole
lot of money and in my uh, in my bank account because that's where
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you know, I pay the mortgageout of that money goes in, the
money goes right out, so there'snever that much money in there. But
now you're right, that's a goodpoint, and that's something I I never
thought of it, and I considermyself financially to be someone educated. Yeah,
but I mean that is one ofthose things that hit you out of
nowhere. You're like, what,oh, I don't want access to our
funds, even though you would.So I tell people you can go to
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the bank. You can just putthe person's name on the account. You
might never have to tell them,you know. And if the situation comes
in and they go to check onyour account, uh, if it's somebody
in the bank, that could tellthem, well, you are an account
also, so you have access toit. It's just simple, is that.
And it's no charge for that either, So you know, putting someone
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on your bank account, there's nocharge for it. And what have you
been doing on your campaign? ObviouslyI have been campaign I know how hard
it is. What have you beendoing over the past now? Yours was
probably before the primary wasn't probably toocrazy because you didn't have a challenger.
But now that now that you're inthe general, what what type of events
are you are you doing? Iknow that it's take grass roots. We
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need people to vote, not corporationsand everything. It's good to have them
in there. But I've been visitinga lot of groups, a lot of
organizations throughout the city. Uh.Some might have been overlooked by some politicians
in the past. But I thinkeverybody counts in this city, and I
want to vote from everybody. Idon't want to leave nobody out. I
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want to vote them from everybody.And it's a citywide race. It's one
of the one of the row offices, So the row offices in Philadephia Register
of Wills, Sheriff and Controller,the Control Controller, and the commissioner commissioners
and the Commissioner's office. So youare citywide, so anyone, anyone can
vote for you. Anyone. It'sa general so you just have to be
a register voter. You could bea Republican, Democrat or Independent and still
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have time to register too. Andyou still do have time to register.
People can vote in person, peoplecan vote by mail, and it's gonna
come. And it's just from theprimary til now. I feel like I
blinked and it's like, wow,it's Hong's yeah, it's August. It's
uh, well, Sunday was becauseI said, I remember, I know.
I send out an email and andpost on those to medi it's a
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hundred days. Was one hundred daysuntil until the general election day November seven,
So what it's uh, it's nowninety seven days. I'm telling you
where it's it's gonna it's gonna blame. But I mean, I know for
me, August is gonna be alittle slow, and I'll take it because
I know I still have my fulltime job. I'm sure, I'm sure
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you're well. I want to allus to be slow. Yeah. Yeah,
I needed to be slow just tocatch up on the job. That
currently is what pays my mortgage anduh no, and that come September in
October, it's it's gonna be crazy. It's on the way. It's gonna
be events, it's gonna be tryingto raise money, it's gonna be you
know, all the above. It'sgonna be crazy. That's why I'm I
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want to take not August off,but I need to concentrate personally on well,
if you want to take a monthoff, it would be all yeah,
that would be the best month totake on. People are tired,
you know, people you know,even when you call people now it's to
ask for money. It's like,when is this, when's the elections?
It's not until November, like couldcall me October. And but we're in
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an instant world. Yeah, everythingis instant, so you know, people
want it now and know it now. And I think those could be some
of our strong points in this upcomingelection. I mean, we have to
hit the buttons at the right time, but I think if we do,
we'll be in good shape. Whatdo you think Number one? Day one
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in office? Is the most importantthing you do? And maybe you've already
mentioned it. Is it the tangletitles? Is it is? It is
the education and getting out there andtelling people this is what you need to
do. The education piece is themost important part for me, you know,
the tangle titles. I looked atthat and saw that that is going
to take some legislative help to reallyget it under part. But I'm gonna
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work with the legislatives see if Ican get something put up so we can
make it a little easier for somepeople. My first thing that I want
to do is get in there andobserved see what has been going on in
office. The lady before me,she came in and she did some good
things. You know, she startedwaking people up and making them aware of
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their uh properties being something more tothem than just a place that they lived
temporarily. So if I can expoundon that a little bit, I'll do
that. Sure. And anything thathelped the citizens of the city of Philadelphia
is what I'm in I'm in ittogether. There's us together to make this
happen. Yeah. No, that'sa lot of worry. You're you're award
leader. I'm a ward leader.I mean yeah, you know, I
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remember people even just in the primary, people are like, you know,
what are you doing election to Isaid, the first thing I'm doing,
I'm waking up at four in themorning and I'm going out as for my
ward leader duties, said, Igot you know, I had Oh yeah,
I had a chance. I had. We we we had to actually
run in the primary. We weren'tunchallenged. And I was up at four
in the morning going around to everypoems day and every day was long in
the fifteenth Ward. Uh, AndI actually live in the eighth Ward,
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and if so, I was goingto the fifteenth and eighth Ward just to
put the put put lawn signs upat all on all the polling station.
So you know, like like me, you're a ward leader. So it's
uh, even with where we're notwe're not campaigning, we're also exactly we're
also a ward leader. And youknow then you have your full time job,
you have a family, so uh, campaigning with a full time job
and and a family is uh youjust made challenge, just made me realize
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that we are pulled from all differentangles. Yeah. Absolutely, Well,
I want to thank you for comingon. I want to thank you for
having me. Yeah, so whatwe'll have you again, absolutely, come
on again in a couple of months, uh or six months or a year.
Well, I'm gonna continue to showno matter what, So we're gonna
we'll continue to have you on.I'm surprised I haven't had you on yet.
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Well hopefully you know, when wecome back on, we'll be both
in off. That's right, absolutelythe same type of show, reaching out
for people, but actually having anarm to extend to some real you know
help. Yeah, well again,thank you for coming on. Thank you've
been watching USULA Media and The RepublicanZone. I am your host, Drew
Murray. Have a great day.The Republican Zone is brought to you by
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Drew Murry.