November 18, 2025 • 33 mins
This week on The Rewrite, I’m joined by Sol Kennedy—founder of BestInterest, the first co-parenting app that uses AI to protect parents from abusive or triggering messages. A former Googler turned full-time dad, Sol built this platform out of his own high-conflict divorce to give parents a way to stay calm, protect their peace, and keep the focus where it belongs—on the kids.
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- His journey from tech to creating a purpose-driven app
- How AI can actually support mental health and family wellbeing
- The power of rewriting the story of co-parenting—even in conflict
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to The Rewrite, a podcast about divorce, choice and
new beginnings. I'm your host Wendy Sloan, former TV producer,
mom of two and one sweet golden retriever. This is
a space for real talk about the moments that break us,
the choices that define us, and the power we have
to begin again. You'll hear personal stories, heartfelt insights, and
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support your next chapter. The most powerful chapters might be
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Kuda Law Firm guidance that moves lives forward. Welcome back
to the Rewrite. I'm your host Wendy Sloan, and today
we're diving into the world of co parenting and high
complex situations and how technology can actually help families heal.
My guest today Saul Kennedy, founder of best Interest, the
first co parenting app that uses AI to protect parents
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from abusive or triggering messages. A former Google or turn
full time dad. Saul created Best Interest after his own
high conflict divorce, when the stress of constant hostility communications
made it nearly impossible to stay present with his kids. Today,
he's not only raising his two kids, but also building
a mission driven company that helps parents reduce conflict, reclaim peace,
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keep the focus on what matters most, the kids. I
wish I had this when I got divorced. Welcome to
my show, Saul Kennedy.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Hi Wendy, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So amazing what you've created, what you've done, especially being
powered by AI, which is my life now anyway, like CHATCHBT,
all that so helpful. Before we get get into all that,
how it started? Can you first went from Google? From
Google to full time dad? Co founder of co parenting
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technology company, the journey that led you to hear?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Sure? Yeah, So I've always been a technologist ever since
I was fourteen. I spent my first business when I
was fourteen with software, and I've always been so curious
about software and how it can solve problems, and so
I through the course of starting companies and selling companies,
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I ended up at Google in a very big pond,
but used to very small ponds, and it was difficult.
When my daughter was born, my first kid, I also
just knew I really wanted to be a dad, and
so I wanted to be super present with her. I've
been very fortunate in my life, and so I was
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able to make that decision I want to just be
a full time dad. And as life would have it,
then came a lot of challenges. We had our second kid,
we started having conflicts in our marriage and that turned
into a full blown divorce. And I didn't really know
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what I was getting into it at every step of
the way, but I found myself being really challenged by
especially the communication between the two of us. We were
in a dynamic that was started by you know a
lot of resentments and background and history and dynamics, and
you know, it just was taking me away from that
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intention that I had set, which is I want to
be present with my kids. I want to be there
for them. I wasn't able to do that in the
way that I wanted to. And there was this night
I remember that I was laying in bed and I
got that ding that I'm sure many co parents were
familiar with that ding of our family wizard, and I
just knew that that was going that was just it
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was too much. I needed to do something, and that
was the spark that led to best Interest AI co parenting.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I love the name of it too. So two weeks
I'm going to back up a little bit, two weeks
into your separation, the world went into lockdown too totally.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it was an intense time for
all of us, let alone. You know, we had just separated,
so it was very stressful.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
And the simple message, the simple message can trigger I mean,
I remember those days and sometimes, like we all know that,
tech sometimes don't come off as they should to begin with. Yeah,
So divorced or not, or separated or not, or going through.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Conflict or not, Yeah, and we can all relate to
this idea that you know, we've had a history with
this person and we have resentments and they have resentments
of us. And so with those resentments, that's how we
filter the messages in our head and we start making
these negative assumptions which end up resulting in conflicts. And
so you know, my observation in my co parenting dynamic,
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what was a very simple start off is maybe a
simple inquiry would then become a back and forth through
thirty messages over the course of a day and a half,
and it was just so overwhelming, I think for both
of us and triggering.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I know that, and very hard to stay present. So
for those listeners that don't know what exactly does the
Best Interest app do and how does AI play a
role in it.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Well, Best Interest starts from it is a co parenting app.
It's an assistant for you, and our primary goal was
to create a service that would reduce conflict in a
co parenting dynamic. If you're familiar with other co parenting apps,
it might seem familiar in terms of the feature set,
like our Family Wizard or Talking Parents, but we take
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it a step further by introducing some of these modern
AI tools. So every message that comes through to you
goes through our custom filter and it's reduced to only
the core elements that you need to know to be
a good co parent. So let's say you and I
are co parenting right now, and maybe I have some
resentments about past behavior and I want to just kind
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of get back at you. In a quick triggered moment,
I might shoot you off a message saying, well, because
you're always late, just a reminder to drop them off
at nine am or I'm going to tell the judge, well,
obviously that's going to be a triggering message for you.
It's going to take you out of your moment with
the kids, and you're probably going to respond back defense,
what do you mean, I'm never late? Right? Not helpful.
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It creates this dynamic, Well, best interest steps in and
we filter that message that you receive to just be
Soul would like you to pick up the kids at
nine am, and that's it, and you don't need to
know anything else except for there's a little flag on
there saying there's more to the message. So when you're
at a place where perhaps you're with your therapist or
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you've dropped the kids off at school and you have
a little bit more time to process these things, you
can see that original message. But you were able to
take the action that you needed to be a good
co parent in that moment without getting drawn into the
conflict and what we're finding. Yeah, sorry, ah, go ahead,
I was going to say what we've been finding. We've
been out for more than a year now, and every
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week I get a message from a co parent thanking
me for this service because it has changed their life.
It's there is something to this idea that when you
are receiving less triggering messages and you're responding back in
a less triggered way, it necessarily changes the dynamic. And
I should back up and say, you don't need to
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get your co parent to agree. Unlike any other co
parenting apps, you don't need to get them on board first.
You can download Best Interest Today from the App Store
of the iOS store, and you can actually just use it,
implement it, and your co parent doesn't have to download
any app. They just continue texting you as normal, and
the messages are filtered for you, and your messages when
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you send them out they get reviewed, so you're protected
as well.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I have to say one of my favorite parts of
that is that they don't have to use it. You
can just use it, so it's like they don't have
to agree because some of them can say, oh, well,
I'm not going to agree to use that. Oh I
don't want to do that. They just want to be
nasty and keep shooting off whatever. So that's like one
of my favorite parts about it. So many great parts
about it, but that's one of.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
The best ones as far as I'm aware. We're the
only co parenting app that does support just a single
party using it alone, and it really does reduce conflict.
I'm sure many of your listeners can agree that some
co parents are not on board with this idea of
reducing conflict or creating boundaries.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Right. So the flag you talked about, the flag that's
there so they can read later on a real message
that was said. Do you have to do that?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
No, you do not have to do it. It's definitely
recommended for a few different reasons. So the way we've
created is you don't even have to view the original
message if you don't want to, but you know that
it's there. And so I come from a perspective and
a background of having gone through a lot of therapy
with regards to my divorce and co parenting, and that
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has helped me become a better person, a stronger person.
And so when you just ignore those messages, yeah, it
actually can reduce the conflict, but you're not necessarily going
to the steps of healing yourself, right, And so we
have this perspective that you'll want to have access to
that original message so you can do the healing work
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that you need to to move on. But you don't
have to do it in real time. That's not necessary,
and sometimes we heal a lot better when we're with
our therapists or when we have a little bit of
space away from the day to day.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Okay, really good points. Tell us some of the other features.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Sure, yeah, so you can download the best INTERCEP now.
It's free to use the coach, so you don't even
have to use it for day to day communication with
your co parent. You can actually just use our customized
co parenting coach. It's a lot like if you've used
chat ship et as I'm sure many listeners have tried it,
but it's specifically customized and trained on the types of
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situations that co parents face, maybe even things that you
haven't faced yet. We've already trained the system on those,
so it's a lot more helpful than just using a
plane chatpt And that's actually free to use. If you
want to then start using it for active messaging, you
can do that and that's a subscription. And then the
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other feature that I should highlight besides the messaging is
we actually will allow you to set boundaries with your
co parent around how much communication you receive right in
the app, and we do that because we know every
single the content of every message. That allows us to
you can say, hey, I just want to hear from
my coparent once a day. Try saying that to your
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co parent and you know impossible, right, but will allow
you to set that boundary. And if your co parent
messages you about something that's truly an emergency. You know,
Johnny is in the hospital, I need you right now.
Oh my gosh, you need to know about that, right,
So we pass that message through. Even if you've set
a boundary to only message you once today.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
That's pretty remarkable. I have to say that's that's amazing.
That's another amazing feature. What advice would you force? Brings
out the worst communication habits in the world. It triggers us.
How can parents start to reframe, reflrame, reframe conflicts and
keep the focus on the kids.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, I mean just to back up for a moment
and agree with you. Co parenting is such a unique
relationship and in human relationships, it's one of the only
relationships I know of where both parties, for whatever reason,
decided they no longer wanted to be in any type
of relationship, let alone now one that is intense filled
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with decisions every day filled with emotion and high stakes.
This is this is difficult stuff and a lot of
stuff comes up in terms of your question. You know
what sort of actually what was the question exactly? Like,
what sort of questions come up in co parenting are?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, well, how can parents start to reframe conflict and
keep the focus on the kids?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Well, you know, I think that it really depends on
the co parenting situation. So when you are receiving messages
from your co parent, oftentimes they will result in in
assumptions coming into your head almost rapid fire, that you
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don't really fully you're not even fully aware and conscious
of what you're going to do how you respond. So
my first advice really is to slow everything down. You
shouldn't be exchanging twenty messages a day with your co parent.
In fact, most of them are not urgent, and so
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I encourage all of my clients to just take a
breather right. If it seems like it's urgent, take a
deep breath before responding. If it's not urgent at all,
step away from it, think about it, take a walk right,
and slowing them to the communication can really can beyond
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even using an app. It can really help reduce the
conflict in a relationship because the conflict is because of
those quick triggers.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
That's really good advice. We're going to take a quick
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can be a little tricky. How do you like how
did you work with that? How did you make sure
that it's like streaming or saying or doing the right
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thing right?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Lots and lots of testing.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Sometimes I use CATCHYPT a lot and I'm like, wait,
what you just redid something totally different than what I
just ask? Like, so, how do you stream that.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
You know it is. There's a lot of techniques in
the industry to help increase the quality of the output,
and I should just caveat and say, no machine or
no human really is perfect. Right. We're going to make mistakes,
We're going to misinterpret things we do, and so it's
important to you know, just keep your eye on it.
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We will never send a message on your behalf ever,
that's never going to be a feed. Will filter messages
and show the original when you want to, but we're
never going to say this is what soul thinks, right,
And because of those safeguards, we're reasonably confident that it's
it's just going to be a really good experience for
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cop parents rather than something that can kind of get
away from them.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I feel like it's a no brainer, even if they
don't want to use it, it's a no brainer. I mean,
it's actually and I kind of want to say, it's
not just you know, you can use it, not just
if you're getting divorced or separated. You can just use
it in general, could.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
You Well sure, yeah, I mean I use AI tools
all day long. I think that they're so useful for business,
for personal you know, and also AI the version of
AI that we have now CHATCHPT. That is, it's a
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large language model, which means it's literally really good at language.
It's okay and making pictures and that sort of thing,
but it's designed to to parse and understand human language,
so it makes it really great for writing and for
also you know, analyzing messages and to give a personal
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antidote of that. You know, when I before I started
Best Interest, before it was even a glimmer in my eye,
I was using chat GPT to create stories with my kids.
I would do this fun little thing where we would
I would ask them for some characters and a general plot.
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You know here they're like three and five at the time,
you know, very young, and they would give me those
things and then I would type it into the AI
and then we'd have a custom story that I would
read out to them before bedtime. And it was fun.
It was like an interactive thing and got them getting
really excited about stories and storytelling. So when I did
that one night, I thought, gosh, I really struggle with
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these these exchanges with my co parent. I wonder if
AI would understand what I'm going through. And obviously these
early days that was early days of AI and most
people listening have probably already tried this with CHATPT, but
it was such an epiphany for me to when I
fed in those messages in the beginning and saw how
it really seemed to understand what was going on, what
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was being said, and even calling out, you know, places
where you know, words were being maybe used in a
manipulative way and that sort of thing. Obviously Best interest
has has gone and moved beyond that, but it can
be very validating to insert those messages in and and
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suddenly you're not alone anymore, You're seen, you're interested.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I just think if you hadn't gone through what you
went through, this wouldn't be here today.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
The best interest no way.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, then they say things happened for a reason, But
I mean, look what you look what you've created, which
has helped millions of people. What pro What where were
you in the process of your separation, divorce or whatever
when you started creating this?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, it was about I would say it was maybe
two ish years, in two or three years in that
I decided that, you know, and it it went through
funny stages. As I said, I was I've always been
an entrepreneur, and so I like to think in that
context and think how can I solve this with software?
And so before even AI came into the picture, I
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hired a guy to to to be my customer service
in my relationship, to like sit in between me and
my co parent to see if maybe he can make
sure I'm saying okay things and filter the things that
are coming through. And that was like the first glimmer
of what besters looked like.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
A coach or a lawyer. No, no, just a or
anything like that.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Just a former co founder or a former friend of
mine that I worked with at a previous startup.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
And wait, wait, why am I doing this?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Uh No, he was totally game. He understood it's like okay,
because I mean he wasn't triggered by the same stuff
as I was. So I figured getting a third party
perspective would really help. And it did, but it was slow,
and it was it didn't it wasn't great, you know.
So that's but that was the beginning. So I kind
of put that to rest. And then when AI came
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to the picture, I said, Okay, well, now we can
actually roll this out as a solution for everyone. Yeah,
all your listeners can relate to this idea that you
start off on this process saying, oh my god, this
is awful and I feel so alone. Why is this
happening to me? And it feels like you're the only
one in the world dealing with this, And then as
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you start finding support systems and groups and start realizing
you're not alone. Actually, we're dealing with kind of the
same energy oftentimes as esecially when you're in a high situation,
a lot of the same tactics, a lot of the
same legal abuse, and so it is very cathartic to
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start realizing, oh wait, I'm not alone. This is something
that's expected, and by the way, this is what's going
to happen next. It can really help with what sometimes
feels like the impossible situation.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
And I feel like it's so easy to use too.
I mean I downloaded it just because we were doing
this interview, and I feel like it's very easy to use.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Well, great, I'm so glad that that was your experience.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Use user friendly, which is a big deal. How do
you personally balance raising kids, healing from divorce, running a company,
all of that.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, with a great team, and also the biggest advice
I can give people that are trying to juggle parenting
and business is time blocks. You know, if I can
manage it as long as there's nothing burning. I make
sure that I have presence time blocks for my kids
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so I can be with them and do fun things
and have things planned and I am not expected to
be on call for business. Any entrepreneur will tell you
that's really hard to do. So it's a work in progress,
but in general time blocking. So you know, on Mondays,
I work on social On you know, Fridays, I'm answering
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customer service escalations, that sort of thing, And that way
I can be single threaded about all the different aspects
of running my life and running my business.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
You found a huge balance in all of that. Yeah,
So what's the biggest rewrite in your own story that
made that divorce made possible? Wow?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
So many rewrites. I mean that in and of itself
could be its own podcast episode. Divorce from my perspective,
in my experience as a portal that I went through,
and I I see myself prior to divorce as being
a completely different person. I was a lot more soft spoken.
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I wouldn't have dared running or run a podcast or
be a CEO of a company. You know, I was
always the guy behind the scenes, and I would have
never spoken up about my experience. These these things are
new traits that I've evolved through the work and the
healing that I've done going through the painful divorce process.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I feel like this app give is so much. You know,
it helps you reclaim your piece.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Piece is the number one word. Yeah, right, you.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Can be a full time present parent for your children
because our phone, I feel like, is attached to us
all the time for the most part, in general, for everybody.
I mean, I try to leave my phone sometimes just
because I just want to disconnect. But my divorce is
a very long time ago, so I'm all past that.
But that's why I do the rewrite. I'm still rewriting
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my story every day, as I'm sure you are. It
sounded like from that because you like, that could be
a whole podcast in itself. But I feel like we're
in this community for a reason because we went through that.
We're making a difference and gosh, if we only knew
what we have now back.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Then, right, Yeah, And you know, I think that with
anything that you go through in life that is incredibly
challenging or painful, that is the nugget, that's the diamond
that you can turn into something that can help others.
And for me, my own personal healing journey is intrinsically
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tied to best interest. I wouldn't have started best interest
without the experience and having done best interest, having turned
this extremely painful experience that brought me to my knees
and had me questioning my life, and turned it into
something that I now am receiving messages of people telling
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me it's changed their lives. Oh my god, that's medicine.
Such medicine.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I can so relate with this podcast when I get
messages from people that listen to and connect with it
and thank me for this work. That's like everything. That's
why we're doing this. I'm so with you, and you
started your own podcast, so tell us about that. Co
parenting Beyond Conflict. I like the name.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Well, thank you so much. Before I say that, a
word to your listeners. Please right now write Wendy and
tell her that she's doing a great job, because it
means so much to hear from our listeners. So thank
you for doing what you're doing to spread the word
and share the healing. It's a really important work. Thank you,
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And yeah, I'm also doing a podcast co Parenting Beyond
Conflict and co Parenting Beyond Conflict is it's really all for.
We're speaking to co parents, especially those that are in
high content conflict situations, and we are coming from the
perspective of, gosh, this is a difficult situation. You're kind
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of stuck in it. There's sometimes no easy way out.
What do you do? You know? And so at oftentimes
every episode we talked to an expert. I bring on therapists, attorneys, coaches,
all coming with the perspective of, Okay, how can you
cope given this situation and how can you move forward?
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And we had a great episode with Dr Romney talking
about how to deal with a co parenting or co
parent who is a narcist. And we've had, yeah, so
many other great episodes. So we'd love to share the
wisdom with your listeners as well.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I love that I didn't ask you this is best interest?
Is it court admissible?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yes? It is. Yeah. We allow you to print out
court admissible PDFs that you can take in as for
your messages, your message history, and your journals, and those
are you can't go in and delete or edit or
modify so they are court admissible.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I love that as well. That's I think that's so
helpful for the courts because you can get up there
and you can you know, the judge doesn't know you,
you know, if he's listening to your attorneys speak or
the media or whatever it is. When you have this,
it's proof.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Well, and you know, I'll say too, it's a This
is a slowly moving space. Legal profession doesn't move on
a dime, and they're still grappling with what to do
with AI, and so we have kept that in mind.
We have a white one pager that you can provide
to your judge that gives you an overview, gives him
or her an overview of how the process works and
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why it's safe and what it's for. As well. As
we started seeing our many of our customers are getting
it court ordered in their cases as an intervention to
reduce conflict in their co parenting relationship. So that's been
successful and we have I mentioned earlier that you can
use it solo, but of course you can use it
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with your co parent as well, So if you have
a court order, you both can use it and then
you both benefit from the rewrites on both sides and
that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Thanks for using that rewrite word. I appreciate that. I'm
sure there's going to be more. You're gonna it's gonna
get deeper and deeper. I'm sure you have other things
coming for the app.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, for sure. We're in fast development. We're adding new
features practically every week, so we're listening to our users
and what they need, and we're serving co parents the
best way we can.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Pretty amazing. So for parents listening who feel like peace
is impossible and the other side is impossible, it's the
first step they can take.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Well, I'd encourage them to go to best Interest dot
app or best Interest app dot com, either one works,
and then they can download the app. They can try
it for free, kick it around. They can also enroll
in a free trial to try out the messaging aspect.
They get two weeks for free, and if they have
any suggestions or feedback for me, please reach out sol
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the Best Interest I can be reached directly that way
as well.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
And you're reading all these messages, I'm sure absolutely.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, I'd love to hear. I love to hear from customers.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And it's great because then you know why why did't
I think of that? Or oh, yes, that would be great,
great addition. So it's evolving all the time.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I'm sure totally. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
And what about you today? Your life today? You, you,
your kids? How is everybody? And how is it? How
is life?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Things are really good? Actually it was a dark time
not that long ago. And and yet my kids are
doing great. Uh they're seven and nine now. Uh, they're
just so fun and it's such a fun age. And
my co painting relationship is peaceful, which I thank God for.
(30:17):
And yeah, things are going well. I have a great
partner who has entered my life and my kids' lives
and she's so supportive and understanding. So uh yeah, that's
that's a great ride.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I can see it in your face. You're like so happy.
That's what the message is like, there is life after
there will the sun will shine, there will be life,
and it's not going to be easy, and we're going
to struggle through the waters and the waves and the
currents and all that stuff, but we're going to get there.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
You know. That's such an interesting point. You know, looking
back at at who I was prior to leaving my marriage,
I didn't think that I could do it alone. Honestly,
it took me a long time to get out because
of that, and I was so demoralized and had really
no self confidence whatsoever at that point. It's hard enough
(31:12):
for me to leave let alone thinking I would get
a life back or create some sort of life. And
I am so thankful looking back that I did. I
think it's been such a great thing for my kids,
it's been such a great thing for me. And here
I have this completely re envisioned life that feels a
lot more like the true me versus who I was before.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
More authentic. Yeah yeah, and look what you created that
selps so many that it's unbelievable just through just through
what you went through. And if you hadn't, like I
said before, we wouldn't have Best Interest.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Well, and speaking to Best Interest too, I have started
many companies through the course of my career, and this
is the first one that feels like a true vocation.
I've always built great products, but this one it's like, oh, yeah,
I'm getting up today so I can work on this
and I can build this for my customers.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
It's a whole new feeling. Amazing.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah yeah, Well.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Kennedy, founder of Best Interest, the first co parenting app
that shields parents from abusive and triggering messages using AI.
A former Google turn full time dad, thank you for
building this for all of us. I, like I said,
I wish I would have had this, but I'm so
happy that so many people have this now, so helpful.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Any last minute thoughts, Wendy, thank you so much for
having me on. It's been great talking with you. Thank
you for the work that you're doing to spread the
good word and great Thank you.
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Kuda Law Firm guidance that moves lives forward. Welcome back
to the Rewrite. I'm your host Wendy Sloan, and today
we're diving into the world of co parenting and high
complex situations and how technology can actually help families heal.
My guest today Saul Kennedy, founder of best Interest, the
first co parenting app that uses AI to protect parents
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from abusive or triggering messages. A former Google or turn
full time dad. Saul created Best Interest after his own
high conflict divorce, when the stress of constant hostility communications
made it nearly impossible to stay present with his kids. Today,
he's not only raising his two kids, but also building
a mission driven company that helps parents reduce conflict, reclaim peace,
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keep the focus on what matters most, the kids. I
wish I had this when I got divorced. Welcome to
my show, Saul Kennedy.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Hi Wendy, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So amazing what you've created, what you've done, especially being
powered by AI, which is my life now anyway, like CHATCHBT,
all that so helpful. Before we get get into all that,
how it started? Can you first went from Google? From
Google to full time dad? Co founder of co parenting
(01:59):
technology company, the journey that led you to hear?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Sure? Yeah, So I've always been a technologist ever since
I was fourteen. I spent my first business when I
was fourteen with software, and I've always been so curious
about software and how it can solve problems, and so
I through the course of starting companies and selling companies,
(02:23):
I ended up at Google in a very big pond,
but used to very small ponds, and it was difficult.
When my daughter was born, my first kid, I also
just knew I really wanted to be a dad, and
so I wanted to be super present with her. I've
been very fortunate in my life, and so I was
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able to make that decision I want to just be
a full time dad. And as life would have it,
then came a lot of challenges. We had our second kid,
we started having conflicts in our marriage and that turned
into a full blown divorce. And I didn't really know
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what I was getting into it at every step of
the way, but I found myself being really challenged by
especially the communication between the two of us. We were
in a dynamic that was started by you know a
lot of resentments and background and history and dynamics, and
you know, it just was taking me away from that
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intention that I had set, which is I want to
be present with my kids. I want to be there
for them. I wasn't able to do that in the
way that I wanted to. And there was this night
I remember that I was laying in bed and I
got that ding that I'm sure many co parents were
familiar with that ding of our family wizard, and I
just knew that that was going that was just it
(03:49):
was too much. I needed to do something, and that
was the spark that led to best Interest AI co parenting.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I love the name of it too. So two weeks
I'm going to back up a little bit, two weeks
into your separation, the world went into lockdown too totally.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it was an intense time for
all of us, let alone. You know, we had just separated,
so it was very stressful.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
And the simple message, the simple message can trigger I mean,
I remember those days and sometimes, like we all know that,
tech sometimes don't come off as they should to begin with. Yeah,
So divorced or not, or separated or not, or going through.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Conflict or not, Yeah, and we can all relate to
this idea that you know, we've had a history with
this person and we have resentments and they have resentments
of us. And so with those resentments, that's how we
filter the messages in our head and we start making
these negative assumptions which end up resulting in conflicts. And
so you know, my observation in my co parenting dynamic,
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what was a very simple start off is maybe a
simple inquiry would then become a back and forth through
thirty messages over the course of a day and a half,
and it was just so overwhelming, I think for both
of us and triggering.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I know that, and very hard to stay present. So
for those listeners that don't know what exactly does the
Best Interest app do and how does AI play a
role in it.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Well, Best Interest starts from it is a co parenting app.
It's an assistant for you, and our primary goal was
to create a service that would reduce conflict in a
co parenting dynamic. If you're familiar with other co parenting apps,
it might seem familiar in terms of the feature set,
like our Family Wizard or Talking Parents, but we take
(05:39):
it a step further by introducing some of these modern
AI tools. So every message that comes through to you
goes through our custom filter and it's reduced to only
the core elements that you need to know to be
a good co parent. So let's say you and I
are co parenting right now, and maybe I have some
resentments about past behavior and I want to just kind
(06:01):
of get back at you. In a quick triggered moment,
I might shoot you off a message saying, well, because
you're always late, just a reminder to drop them off
at nine am or I'm going to tell the judge, well,
obviously that's going to be a triggering message for you.
It's going to take you out of your moment with
the kids, and you're probably going to respond back defense,
what do you mean, I'm never late? Right? Not helpful.
(06:24):
It creates this dynamic, Well, best interest steps in and
we filter that message that you receive to just be
Soul would like you to pick up the kids at
nine am, and that's it, and you don't need to
know anything else except for there's a little flag on
there saying there's more to the message. So when you're
at a place where perhaps you're with your therapist or
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you've dropped the kids off at school and you have
a little bit more time to process these things, you
can see that original message. But you were able to
take the action that you needed to be a good
co parent in that moment without getting drawn into the
conflict and what we're finding. Yeah, sorry, ah, go ahead,
I was going to say what we've been finding. We've
been out for more than a year now, and every
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week I get a message from a co parent thanking
me for this service because it has changed their life.
It's there is something to this idea that when you
are receiving less triggering messages and you're responding back in
a less triggered way, it necessarily changes the dynamic. And
I should back up and say, you don't need to
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get your co parent to agree. Unlike any other co
parenting apps, you don't need to get them on board first.
You can download Best Interest Today from the App Store
of the iOS store, and you can actually just use it,
implement it, and your co parent doesn't have to download
any app. They just continue texting you as normal, and
the messages are filtered for you, and your messages when
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you send them out they get reviewed, so you're protected
as well.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I have to say one of my favorite parts of
that is that they don't have to use it. You
can just use it, so it's like they don't have
to agree because some of them can say, oh, well,
I'm not going to agree to use that. Oh I
don't want to do that. They just want to be
nasty and keep shooting off whatever. So that's like one
of my favorite parts about it. So many great parts
about it, but that's one of.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
The best ones as far as I'm aware. We're the
only co parenting app that does support just a single
party using it alone, and it really does reduce conflict.
I'm sure many of your listeners can agree that some
co parents are not on board with this idea of
reducing conflict or creating boundaries.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Right. So the flag you talked about, the flag that's
there so they can read later on a real message
that was said. Do you have to do that?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
No, you do not have to do it. It's definitely
recommended for a few different reasons. So the way we've
created is you don't even have to view the original
message if you don't want to, but you know that
it's there. And so I come from a perspective and
a background of having gone through a lot of therapy
with regards to my divorce and co parenting, and that
(09:07):
has helped me become a better person, a stronger person.
And so when you just ignore those messages, yeah, it
actually can reduce the conflict, but you're not necessarily going
to the steps of healing yourself, right, And so we
have this perspective that you'll want to have access to
that original message so you can do the healing work
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that you need to to move on. But you don't
have to do it in real time. That's not necessary,
and sometimes we heal a lot better when we're with
our therapists or when we have a little bit of
space away from the day to day.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Okay, really good points. Tell us some of the other features.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Sure, yeah, so you can download the best INTERCEP now.
It's free to use the coach, so you don't even
have to use it for day to day communication with
your co parent. You can actually just use our customized
co parenting coach. It's a lot like if you've used
chat ship et as I'm sure many listeners have tried it,
but it's specifically customized and trained on the types of
(10:08):
situations that co parents face, maybe even things that you
haven't faced yet. We've already trained the system on those,
so it's a lot more helpful than just using a
plane chatpt And that's actually free to use. If you
want to then start using it for active messaging, you
can do that and that's a subscription. And then the
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other feature that I should highlight besides the messaging is
we actually will allow you to set boundaries with your
co parent around how much communication you receive right in
the app, and we do that because we know every
single the content of every message. That allows us to
you can say, hey, I just want to hear from
my coparent once a day. Try saying that to your
(10:53):
co parent and you know impossible, right, but will allow
you to set that boundary. And if your co parent
messages you about something that's truly an emergency. You know,
Johnny is in the hospital, I need you right now.
Oh my gosh, you need to know about that, right,
So we pass that message through. Even if you've set
a boundary to only message you once today.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
That's pretty remarkable. I have to say that's that's amazing.
That's another amazing feature. What advice would you force? Brings
out the worst communication habits in the world. It triggers us.
How can parents start to reframe, reflrame, reframe conflicts and
keep the focus on the kids.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, I mean just to back up for a moment
and agree with you. Co parenting is such a unique
relationship and in human relationships, it's one of the only
relationships I know of where both parties, for whatever reason,
decided they no longer wanted to be in any type
of relationship, let alone now one that is intense filled
(11:57):
with decisions every day filled with emotion and high stakes.
This is this is difficult stuff and a lot of
stuff comes up in terms of your question. You know
what sort of actually what was the question exactly? Like,
what sort of questions come up in co parenting are?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, well, how can parents start to reframe conflict and
keep the focus on the kids?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Well, you know, I think that it really depends on
the co parenting situation. So when you are receiving messages
from your co parent, oftentimes they will result in in
assumptions coming into your head almost rapid fire, that you
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don't really fully you're not even fully aware and conscious
of what you're going to do how you respond. So
my first advice really is to slow everything down. You
shouldn't be exchanging twenty messages a day with your co parent.
In fact, most of them are not urgent, and so
(13:02):
I encourage all of my clients to just take a
breather right. If it seems like it's urgent, take a
deep breath before responding. If it's not urgent at all,
step away from it, think about it, take a walk right,
and slowing them to the communication can really can beyond
(13:22):
even using an app. It can really help reduce the
conflict in a relationship because the conflict is because of
those quick triggers.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
That's really good advice. We're going to take a quick
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can be a little tricky. How do you like how
did you work with that? How did you make sure
that it's like streaming or saying or doing the right
(15:18):
thing right?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Lots and lots of testing.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Sometimes I use CATCHYPT a lot and I'm like, wait,
what you just redid something totally different than what I
just ask? Like, so, how do you stream that.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
You know it is. There's a lot of techniques in
the industry to help increase the quality of the output,
and I should just caveat and say, no machine or
no human really is perfect. Right. We're going to make mistakes,
We're going to misinterpret things we do, and so it's
important to you know, just keep your eye on it.
(15:55):
We will never send a message on your behalf ever,
that's never going to be a feed. Will filter messages
and show the original when you want to, but we're
never going to say this is what soul thinks, right,
And because of those safeguards, we're reasonably confident that it's
it's just going to be a really good experience for
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cop parents rather than something that can kind of get
away from them.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I feel like it's a no brainer, even if they
don't want to use it, it's a no brainer. I mean,
it's actually and I kind of want to say, it's
not just you know, you can use it, not just
if you're getting divorced or separated. You can just use
it in general, could.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
You Well sure, yeah, I mean I use AI tools
all day long. I think that they're so useful for business,
for personal you know, and also AI the version of
AI that we have now CHATCHPT. That is, it's a
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large language model, which means it's literally really good at language.
It's okay and making pictures and that sort of thing,
but it's designed to to parse and understand human language,
so it makes it really great for writing and for
also you know, analyzing messages and to give a personal
(17:17):
antidote of that. You know, when I before I started
Best Interest, before it was even a glimmer in my eye,
I was using chat GPT to create stories with my kids.
I would do this fun little thing where we would
I would ask them for some characters and a general plot.
(17:38):
You know here they're like three and five at the time,
you know, very young, and they would give me those
things and then I would type it into the AI
and then we'd have a custom story that I would
read out to them before bedtime. And it was fun.
It was like an interactive thing and got them getting
really excited about stories and storytelling. So when I did
that one night, I thought, gosh, I really struggle with
(18:00):
these these exchanges with my co parent. I wonder if
AI would understand what I'm going through. And obviously these
early days that was early days of AI and most
people listening have probably already tried this with CHATPT, but
it was such an epiphany for me to when I
fed in those messages in the beginning and saw how
it really seemed to understand what was going on, what
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was being said, and even calling out, you know, places
where you know, words were being maybe used in a
manipulative way and that sort of thing. Obviously Best interest
has has gone and moved beyond that, but it can
be very validating to insert those messages in and and
(18:45):
suddenly you're not alone anymore, You're seen, you're interested.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I just think if you hadn't gone through what you
went through, this wouldn't be here today.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
The best interest no way.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, then they say things happened for a reason, But
I mean, look what you look what you've created, which
has helped millions of people. What pro What where were
you in the process of your separation, divorce or whatever
when you started creating this?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, it was about I would say it was maybe
two ish years, in two or three years in that
I decided that, you know, and it it went through
funny stages. As I said, I was I've always been
an entrepreneur, and so I like to think in that
context and think how can I solve this with software?
And so before even AI came into the picture, I
(19:36):
hired a guy to to to be my customer service
in my relationship, to like sit in between me and
my co parent to see if maybe he can make
sure I'm saying okay things and filter the things that
are coming through. And that was like the first glimmer
of what besters looked like.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
A coach or a lawyer. No, no, just a or
anything like that.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Just a former co founder or a former friend of
mine that I worked with at a previous startup.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
And wait, wait, why am I doing this?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Uh No, he was totally game. He understood it's like okay,
because I mean he wasn't triggered by the same stuff
as I was. So I figured getting a third party
perspective would really help. And it did, but it was slow,
and it was it didn't it wasn't great, you know.
So that's but that was the beginning. So I kind
of put that to rest. And then when AI came
(20:29):
to the picture, I said, Okay, well, now we can
actually roll this out as a solution for everyone. Yeah,
all your listeners can relate to this idea that you
start off on this process saying, oh my god, this
is awful and I feel so alone. Why is this
happening to me? And it feels like you're the only
one in the world dealing with this, And then as
(20:49):
you start finding support systems and groups and start realizing
you're not alone. Actually, we're dealing with kind of the
same energy oftentimes as esecially when you're in a high situation,
a lot of the same tactics, a lot of the
same legal abuse, and so it is very cathartic to
(21:09):
start realizing, oh wait, I'm not alone. This is something
that's expected, and by the way, this is what's going
to happen next. It can really help with what sometimes
feels like the impossible situation.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
And I feel like it's so easy to use too.
I mean I downloaded it just because we were doing
this interview, and I feel like it's very easy to use.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Well, great, I'm so glad that that was your experience.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Use user friendly, which is a big deal. How do
you personally balance raising kids, healing from divorce, running a company,
all of that.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, with a great team, and also the biggest advice
I can give people that are trying to juggle parenting
and business is time blocks. You know, if I can
manage it as long as there's nothing burning. I make
sure that I have presence time blocks for my kids
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so I can be with them and do fun things
and have things planned and I am not expected to
be on call for business. Any entrepreneur will tell you
that's really hard to do. So it's a work in progress,
but in general time blocking. So you know, on Mondays,
I work on social On you know, Fridays, I'm answering
(22:24):
customer service escalations, that sort of thing, And that way
I can be single threaded about all the different aspects
of running my life and running my business.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
You found a huge balance in all of that. Yeah,
So what's the biggest rewrite in your own story that
made that divorce made possible? Wow?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
So many rewrites. I mean that in and of itself
could be its own podcast episode. Divorce from my perspective,
in my experience as a portal that I went through,
and I I see myself prior to divorce as being
a completely different person. I was a lot more soft spoken.
(23:10):
I wouldn't have dared running or run a podcast or
be a CEO of a company. You know, I was
always the guy behind the scenes, and I would have
never spoken up about my experience. These these things are
new traits that I've evolved through the work and the
healing that I've done going through the painful divorce process.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I feel like this app give is so much. You know,
it helps you reclaim your piece.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Piece is the number one word. Yeah, right, you.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Can be a full time present parent for your children
because our phone, I feel like, is attached to us
all the time for the most part, in general, for everybody.
I mean, I try to leave my phone sometimes just
because I just want to disconnect. But my divorce is
a very long time ago, so I'm all past that.
But that's why I do the rewrite. I'm still rewriting
(24:06):
my story every day, as I'm sure you are. It
sounded like from that because you like, that could be
a whole podcast in itself. But I feel like we're
in this community for a reason because we went through that.
We're making a difference and gosh, if we only knew
what we have now back.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Then, right, Yeah, And you know, I think that with
anything that you go through in life that is incredibly
challenging or painful, that is the nugget, that's the diamond
that you can turn into something that can help others.
And for me, my own personal healing journey is intrinsically
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tied to best interest. I wouldn't have started best interest
without the experience and having done best interest, having turned
this extremely painful experience that brought me to my knees
and had me questioning my life, and turned it into
something that I now am receiving messages of people telling
(25:07):
me it's changed their lives. Oh my god, that's medicine.
Such medicine.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I can so relate with this podcast when I get
messages from people that listen to and connect with it
and thank me for this work. That's like everything. That's
why we're doing this. I'm so with you, and you
started your own podcast, so tell us about that. Co
parenting Beyond Conflict. I like the name.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Well, thank you so much. Before I say that, a
word to your listeners. Please right now write Wendy and
tell her that she's doing a great job, because it
means so much to hear from our listeners. So thank
you for doing what you're doing to spread the word
and share the healing. It's a really important work. Thank you,
(25:52):
And yeah, I'm also doing a podcast co Parenting Beyond
Conflict and co Parenting Beyond Conflict is it's really all for.
We're speaking to co parents, especially those that are in
high content conflict situations, and we are coming from the
perspective of, gosh, this is a difficult situation. You're kind
(26:16):
of stuck in it. There's sometimes no easy way out.
What do you do? You know? And so at oftentimes
every episode we talked to an expert. I bring on therapists, attorneys, coaches,
all coming with the perspective of, Okay, how can you
cope given this situation and how can you move forward?
(26:39):
And we had a great episode with Dr Romney talking
about how to deal with a co parenting or co
parent who is a narcist. And we've had, yeah, so
many other great episodes. So we'd love to share the
wisdom with your listeners as well.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I love that I didn't ask you this is best interest?
Is it court admissible?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yes? It is. Yeah. We allow you to print out
court admissible PDFs that you can take in as for
your messages, your message history, and your journals, and those
are you can't go in and delete or edit or
modify so they are court admissible.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I love that as well. That's I think that's so
helpful for the courts because you can get up there
and you can you know, the judge doesn't know you,
you know, if he's listening to your attorneys speak or
the media or whatever it is. When you have this,
it's proof.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Well, and you know, I'll say too, it's a This
is a slowly moving space. Legal profession doesn't move on
a dime, and they're still grappling with what to do
with AI, and so we have kept that in mind.
We have a white one pager that you can provide
to your judge that gives you an overview, gives him
or her an overview of how the process works and
(27:55):
why it's safe and what it's for. As well. As
we started seeing our many of our customers are getting
it court ordered in their cases as an intervention to
reduce conflict in their co parenting relationship. So that's been
successful and we have I mentioned earlier that you can
use it solo, but of course you can use it
(28:17):
with your co parent as well, So if you have
a court order, you both can use it and then
you both benefit from the rewrites on both sides and
that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Thanks for using that rewrite word. I appreciate that. I'm
sure there's going to be more. You're gonna it's gonna
get deeper and deeper. I'm sure you have other things
coming for the app.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, for sure. We're in fast development. We're adding new
features practically every week, so we're listening to our users
and what they need, and we're serving co parents the
best way we can.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Pretty amazing. So for parents listening who feel like peace
is impossible and the other side is impossible, it's the
first step they can take.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Well, I'd encourage them to go to best Interest dot
app or best Interest app dot com, either one works,
and then they can download the app. They can try
it for free, kick it around. They can also enroll
in a free trial to try out the messaging aspect.
They get two weeks for free, and if they have
any suggestions or feedback for me, please reach out sol
(29:26):
the Best Interest I can be reached directly that way
as well.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
And you're reading all these messages, I'm sure absolutely.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, I'd love to hear. I love to hear from customers.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And it's great because then you know why why did't
I think of that? Or oh, yes, that would be great,
great addition. So it's evolving all the time.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I'm sure totally. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
And what about you today? Your life today? You, you,
your kids? How is everybody? And how is it? How
is life?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Things are really good? Actually it was a dark time
not that long ago. And and yet my kids are
doing great. Uh they're seven and nine now. Uh, they're
just so fun and it's such a fun age. And
my co painting relationship is peaceful, which I thank God for.
(30:17):
And yeah, things are going well. I have a great
partner who has entered my life and my kids' lives
and she's so supportive and understanding. So uh yeah, that's
that's a great ride.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I can see it in your face. You're like so happy.
That's what the message is like, there is life after
there will the sun will shine, there will be life,
and it's not going to be easy, and we're going
to struggle through the waters and the waves and the
currents and all that stuff, but we're going to get there.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
You know. That's such an interesting point. You know, looking
back at at who I was prior to leaving my marriage,
I didn't think that I could do it alone. Honestly,
it took me a long time to get out because
of that, and I was so demoralized and had really
no self confidence whatsoever at that point. It's hard enough
(31:12):
for me to leave let alone thinking I would get
a life back or create some sort of life. And
I am so thankful looking back that I did. I
think it's been such a great thing for my kids,
it's been such a great thing for me. And here
I have this completely re envisioned life that feels a
lot more like the true me versus who I was before.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
More authentic. Yeah yeah, and look what you created that
selps so many that it's unbelievable just through just through
what you went through. And if you hadn't, like I
said before, we wouldn't have Best Interest.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Well, and speaking to Best Interest too, I have started
many companies through the course of my career, and this
is the first one that feels like a true vocation.
I've always built great products, but this one it's like, oh, yeah,
I'm getting up today so I can work on this
and I can build this for my customers.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
It's a whole new feeling. Amazing.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah yeah, Well.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Kennedy, founder of Best Interest, the first co parenting app
that shields parents from abusive and triggering messages using AI.
A former Google turn full time dad, thank you for
building this for all of us. I, like I said,
I wish I would have had this, but I'm so
happy that so many people have this now, so helpful.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Any last minute thoughts, Wendy, thank you so much for
having me on. It's been great talking with you. Thank
you for the work that you're doing to spread the
good word and great Thank you.
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