Hour 1 - 153rd British Open, Missouri Football HC Eli Drinkwitz's CFB Playoff Idea 2025-07-17

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informed regarding that. A lot to talk about. I know
it's still summertime and it seems that everything is dead,

(02:47):
there's not much going on. We do have the British Open,
the one hundred and fifty third edition of the British
Open going on in Ireland, and right now Jacob Olison
is leading at four un You also have several other
people that have already made it to the clubhouse, including
Matt Fitzpatrick at four under. You've got Lucas Glover sitting

(03:10):
there at four under now he's still got several holes
to go. You've got Harris English also at four under,
and Scottie Scheffler he's done for the day and he
is at three under. And so this is an opportunity
to see some of the best of the best in
the world of golf be tested, and maybe not so

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much just from the standpoint of just the course itself,
but it's also the course and also the weather conditions
and how that plays out, and how that's going to
factor into this opportunity for somebody to be able to
raise that Claret Jug. And I love I've read a
story and I'll have to talk about it at another time.

(03:52):
Just the history of the Clart Jug and where it's
where it has made its way over the years in
various type of bars, all types of crazy stories regarding
the Cleric Jug, and it is fascinating when you hear
some of the stories behind that. But we do know
this is a major going on right now, and I

(04:12):
think all eyes are on Royal Port Rush. And again
right now it is a little after two pm here
on the East Coast, and it is little after seven
pm there in Ireland, And again, can we see an
American be able to climb to that leader board? And
can it be a Scotti Scheffler And he just continues
to ride just somewhat of a wave of underrated. I

(04:36):
shouldn't say underrated, obviously not I misspoke there. It's not underrated,
but unassuming. I think that's the right word when you
talk about Scotti Scheffler's just unassuming. He doesn't necessarily have
that pizazz, that bravado outside of just the bravado of winning,
and there's something about that. Also, Don't get me wrong,

(04:57):
you don't have to be flamboyant. You don't have to
be a vocal type of person to go out and
be dominant and showcase that. And Scotti Scheffler epitomizes that
in so many different ways. And also he just seems
to view things in a different perspective, how down to earth.
He is obviously a very competitive type of person and

(05:18):
a type of personality and disciplined and all of that
that goes into it, But some of his recent comments
also talk about just life and where he is in
his life and being a parent now and what it
all means and how much do you have this carryover
effect as far as if you play bad or if

(05:41):
you play great, what does that do for you when
you're not playing, when you're not out on the course,
when you're not practicing, when you're not having that grind
and making sure that you're keeping it all into perspective
as far as what the bigger picture of life is
all about. And I think that's what has people looking

(06:02):
at Scotti Scheffler in a different light, because he does
seem to be viewing it in a different light. And
I'm not saying that he's the only one, just seems
like he's been more vocal about it than anybody else
over the years, and especially when you compare it to
a Tiger Woods, where when we think of Tiger Woods,
we think of driven. I mean, this guy who was

(06:23):
golf twenty four to seven, three sixty five, and we
saw what it did in terms of his focus and
his determination and his drive, and how hard it was
for him to compartmentalize things and when he went in,
he went all in on something. And we know that

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there are obviously situations off the course, family issues, all
of that, pain, medication, addiction, all of those things that
occurred with Tiger, and I wonder if part of it,
too was did he have different viewpoint because he was
so driven he had to be the greatest of all
time and being able to win at any type of

(07:08):
cost to his body, to his family, to people around him,
his friends, all of that. And I'm reading a biography
right now called Tiger Tiger, written by James Patterson, and
it's fascinating and one of the things that I do
love is that the chapters are very short, so when
I'm reading at night, it's easy for me to, Okay,

(07:29):
let me focus on, let me get through this chapter.
And they're only like six or seven pages at a time,
and it allows me to have a great stopping point.
But the point is is that you start seeing some
of the things that happened early on in Tiger's life
that I do believe led him to that now, part
of it can definitely be DNA, and that's just how

(07:52):
he is, and that's how he was born and how
God touched him in a certain way, obviously from a
talent standpoint, but also just how he was naturally bent
in terms of his personality. And then you include the
external factors, the environmental factors, and his dad, Earl, and
the push to make him the face of golf at

(08:15):
one point, and the guy that was going to be
on track to break all of Jack Nicholas's records and
that we would easily say is the greatest of all time.
And so there's something to be said about that, but
also really understanding what is the meaning of life and
what does it all mean in terms of how sports

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is intertwined in life and how your career is in
sports and what that means and the days that you
don't accomplish greatness, the days that you don't win, how
does that affect you? And then also the days that
you do accomplish the big wins. You win a major,
you win multiple tournaments on tour, whatever it might be,

(09:00):
you're the number one money leader in the on the
PGA Tour, or you're having success on Live Tour, whatever
it is, how do you view the rest of your
life and how it's all connected. And that's where I
think Scotty Scheffler is at that point, and maybe he's
been that way for a while based on some of
the interviews that I've seen in the commentary that he

(09:23):
has been able to have over the years, is that
I think there's something about he's much more grounded and
tries to really view it from a different light and
it's not all about, yes, he wants to go out
there and win, but he's not all consumed that it
has to be just winning and that's it at any cost.

(09:44):
That doesn't seem to be how Scotty Scheffler is viewing things.
But we'll see how the rest of the British open
over there Royal Port Rush in Ireland, and again I
know it would be a huge deal if Rory McElroy
would win on his home turf. All of that crowds
are going to go crazy. Everything that's involved with that again,

(10:05):
the elements and the course itself, So when you combine
the two, it makes it very challenging. And that's why
I do enjoy watching some of this because it is
things that you can't control with the weather, and how
these guys are able to respond, and it also just
shows you how good they are. And that's why I
loved being able to talk with Bobby Powell, the tournament
director of the Windham Championship, yesterday there in Greensboro, North Carolina.

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And that's coming up in just a couple of weeks
and we'll be broadcasting live there from Greensboro, North Carolina,
and definitely looking forward to that, and especially as more
and more golfers on the PGA Tour are announcing that
they are going to attend. And again the headlines you
know of Ben Griffin, number six in the FedEx Cup
standings right now on the PGA Tour. Max Homa is

(10:51):
going to be there and he's trying to get his
game back in gear. And speaking of a Matt Fitzpatrick,
he's going to be you know, coming there to Greensboro.
You have some names. As that is the last opportunity
for these golfers on the PGA Tour to earn points,
to try to get in that top seventy so they
can compete for a FedEx Cup championship down in Atlanta

(11:14):
at East Lake at the end of August. Are on
the third, third weekend of August, because we know the
very last weekend of August. Yeah, that's college football. The
PGA Tour. They realized pretty quickly, Hey, that's not a
good idea for us to be competing on the same
weekend a lot of times as college football is opening
their season, because nobody's watching the PGA Tour other than

(11:36):
the pure golfers and the golf purists. I should say
that follow the PGA Tour religiously. But college football is
going to take center stage at the end of August
and the beginning of September. So PGA Tour did a
really smart thing being able to shift their schedule, shift
their season. And that's why we're talking about evolution. It's okay,

(11:59):
we can have things move forward and change things. You
can still honor tradition, you can still honor history, all
of that, but at some point there are going to
be certain things that do change, and the PGA Tour
recognized that because at the end of the day, they
still want to make it entertaining for fans. They still
want to get eyeballs on their product. So why would

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you want to compete against college football? And especially when
the FedEx Cup Championship is in Atlanta at east Lake,
which is a phenomenal course. I absolutely love it. It's
one of my favorite courses that I've been actually able
to play, and I joke to so many people that, oh, yeah,
that's my home course. I grew up in the Atlanta area.

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I didn't really play golf growing up, but later in
life when I moved back to Atlanta after my college
basketball coaching days, I was working for a medical device
company and we had a office there in Atlanta, and
the guy who ran the distributorship, Doug Craft, he had
a member there at Eastlake, so we were able to

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go and play east Lake at times, and it is
an amazing course and even better over the years now
that they've been able to go through from renovations, and
of all people that did the renovations, Andrew Green, who
is an absolutely phenomenal golf course architect who we've had
here on the show on the Richmond Weavers Show, and

(13:23):
you can go check that out on our podcast. It
was an absolutely fantastic interview talking with Andrew Green and
talking about his desire of how he's trying to improve
some of these golf courses but also honor the original
architect and the design and not try to completely redo

(13:45):
the course, but be able to enhance it based on
the original design. And that's the same thing that we're
seeing in other areas, and that's why I thought it
was very interesting down on the SEC Media Days in Atlanta.
I was there on Monday, and I know if you've
listened to the show previously, you heard me talking about it.
And it was a great opportunity to spend some time

(14:07):
with South Carolina Shane Beemer, Leonora Sellers, safety DQ Smith,
and defensive tackle Nick Barrett for the game COS and
great job by Steve Fink and Michael Debates being able
to put together a small little gathering for South Carolina
media that cover the game Cox football and so there's

(14:29):
been a lot of talk as far as, hey, what's
the next phase for college football? And a lot of
people were questioned about and I say people coaches and
even some of the players, but the coaches asked about, hey,
what should things look like moving forward, especially with the

(14:50):
College Football Playoff, because we know we finally had expansion
to twelve teams last year, and I do feel what
that excitement was for the fans and the fan bases
that are out there, and a great opportunity to engage
some of these fan bases in a much more meaningful
part of the season postseason that is not just the

(15:12):
bowl games. And again, there's tradition, there's history with all
of the bowl games. I do understand that, but you
have to look at it as far as being able
to move forward, and all these coaches were asked about
what do they think is the best format, especially if
it goes to sixteen, which there's been a lot of
talk as far as expanding it to sixteen teams that
are eligible to compete for a college football national championship.

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But I found it very interesting yesterday Eli Drinkowitz, head
coach of the Missouri Tigers, he was asked that same
type of question by Pat Forty of Sports Illustrated, And
I think Pat Forty does a fantastic job, and he's
been doing it for a long time, so he's got
relationships with a lot of these coaches and is able

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to talk to them somewhat on a different level. But
this is Eli Drinkowitz at the podium at the SEC
Media Days where Pat Forty asked him a question and
wanted his opinion what he thought about expanding to sixteen
teams in the college Football Playoff, but doing it in
a way where you would have five automatic qualifiers and

(16:22):
eleven at large teams. But here's Eli Drinkwitz, head coach
of Missouri Tigers, and his answer, and he expanded about
some other ideas that he has for college football. I'll
start with.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
The twelve fourteen sixteen playoff.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
This is not going to do me any favors with
our commissioner. You know, when I think about college football
right now and think about what do we need to do,
I think it really comes down to two things. What's
best for our players and what's best for our fans.
The rest of us are really only important because of
the players and the fans. So when you think about

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whether it's twelve, fourteen or sixteen. You know, to me,
we're if we've decided to go into this expansion of
playoffs and we're trying to follow an NFL model. Well,
the NFL takes forty four percent of their teams in
order into the playoffs to increase the passion or keep
the fan base engaged. If we're talking about twelve, that's

(17:23):
nine percent. If we're talking about fourteen, that's eleven percent.
If we're talking about sixteen, that's twelve percent. That's really
not changing the math for the fan base. So I
really don't understand what the big fight is about. The
other thing I don't really understand about this. You know,
we have a lot of complaints. Whether we're talking about
sixty eight teams in the NCAA basketball tournament, we're complaining

(17:45):
about the committee. And now we last year we complained
about the committee selections. I mean, we produced all kinds
of stats and handed them out about why the SEC
was so good. Well, the problem is we have a
human committee that has no standard set of structure of
how they're going to select. They're all human beings, they

(18:07):
all have implicit bias. So now we're going to go
from seven to eleven, and we think that's going to
solve the problem until we figure out what exactly the
standards are. I don't think that's good in my viewpoint
of it. I think we should go back and try
to find more ways to include teams. How do we

(18:27):
get more people involved, because that's better for the players,
that's better for the player experience to have more people
involved in the potential to play for a championship, and
it's better for the fan bases. I think we all
would agree that the four college Football playoff games at
home campuses was a huge win for college football. We
need to expand that opportunity, that energy and excitement.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
So my math could be wrong.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Here, but if we did the twelve, okay, and you
had four automatic qualifiers, everybody thinks that's limiting. It's not
limiting if you think about it from You take those
four automatic qualifiers and you divide that up into eight
opportunities of eight play in games. So now you're taking
the SEC's plan in for eight. You're taking the Big
tens plan in for eight. Since we've expanded the bubble

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the sixteen. Give three to the pack, three to the
Big twelve, three to the ACC one to one.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Now you've got thirty teams, thirty teams.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Now we're talking about an opportunity for thirty teams, thirty
fan bases to be excited.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
And engaged, engaged in giving revenue.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Got thirty players, thirty teams with players who have access
to compete for a championship. And so for me, I
think that makes a lot more sense. You know, again,
when you're talking about the NFL playoffs system, not only
is it fourteen teams, but you only have to be
the best out of your four team division. So you've
got to compete against four teams in order to make
the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
You know, again, when.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
You're at the University of Missouri, if you say, hey,
you just have to finish in the top eight to
have a chance to play in the playoffs, that's a
win every day. And I'm all for that. I think
that's awesome. Eight versus nine. Honestly, I think I've been
for the nine game. I think if it was about
players and about fans, I think it's.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
A nine game schedule for the SEC.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
If it's about coach preservation, which hey man, I get it,
you know, but if we're going to go to eleven
humans deciding on a committee which are the eleven best teams,
and we stay at eight, we ain't getting in.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
And that's Eli Drinkowitz, head coach of the Missouri Tigers.
And yes, we'll talk about eight game schedule in the
SEC versus a nine game schedule in the SEC compared
to other conferences, and how the first and foremost, yes,
we need to get on equal ground for everybody, But

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that's a different discussion. This is more about the opportunity
of expanding the college football playoff and what that would
look like, and especially how it would play out if
we did, in fact go to thirty teams in the playoffs.
Now a lot of people are like rolling their eyes, thinking,

(21:08):
what in the world is Eli Drinkwitz drink wits talking
about right there, just from the perspective of how cumbersome
that could be so many teams. But his point is that, hey,
when you're having over one hundred plus teams in college
football at the FBS level, yet let's make it where

(21:29):
you have an opportunity for more fan bases to get involved.
And I don't think we need to even talk about
why expansion is good for college football. I think we've
talked about that numerous times and it's pretty straightforward. More
opportunities for teams again, in that's fun, I want to
have more teams in it. Do we want to go

(21:51):
back to just four teams that have an opportunity playing
for the national championship? And we can talk about all
of the things how a regular season is affected by that,
but also just think about the increased fan engagement. Expanding
the playoff is going to keep fan bases even involved
and invested deeper into the season. So how is that

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not a good thing? Player motivation and development and Eli
Drinkwitz talked about that that now, hey, players get to
participate in higher stakes type of games, which is extremely important.
They also get to showcase their talents on a bigger
stage where the stakes are higher. So then maybe their

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NFL draft opportunity increases. You never know what can happen
with draft stock being affected by games, and especially when
you're competing against team that have more players that might
look like NFL players. So there is definitely something about that.
And then we know money revenue boost More games equals

(22:57):
more TV revenue, ticket sales, merchandise, all of that across
the entire athletic program can benefit because we know that
cash is funding those athletic programs, and so they're looking
for any opportunity to increase revenue. So why wouldn't you
look at this type of scenario. And as coach Drinkwitz

(23:19):
talked about the games on campus, I mean, are you
kidding me? How exciting that was?

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Now.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
I know that Tennessee Ohio State game. Tennessee fans did
not like that, but just think about how that environment
and the weather. How cool that was to have two
of the big elite programs over the past five years,
Tennessee and Ohio State play each other there on campus

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and the fan bases and the students, and we saw
the contingency of Tennessee faithful going up to Columbus there
at the Horseshoe. And also can it also level the
playing field? You know? Again, I know it's all about
right now the SEC and Big Ten. They want to
dominate and have more opportunities. And again they do have

(24:09):
some stats that back it up. Twenty seven of the
last thirty three national titles come from the SEC in
Big ten. Yeah, so there's something to be said about that.
But it also you have now that opportunity for a
potential Cinderella story. You never know who might get upset. Now,
they might not be able to actually compete for a

(24:30):
national championship. But don't we see that in the NFL anyway?
And I know there's talk about, oh, you're going to
dilute not only the regular season, but you're going to
dilute the playoffs because who wants a mediocre team in
the playoffs. Well, as you heard they're from coach Drinkwitz,
forty four percent of the NFL teams make the playoffs.

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And do we think that the playoffs are any worse? Oh,
hell no, we love the NFL playoffs. We're even more
engaged with the NFL player and those teams that are
an NFL wild card that get in and maybe they
do have a five hundred record or just a just
above five hundred record because they win their division and

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they get in. And technically you could get in the
NFL playoffs with a losing record. Just go win your division.
And that's what coach Drinkwitz was talking about, that, Hey,
you're just really competing against four teams in your division
because you win that and you're in the playoffs. Now
the seating is affected, obviously, but the point is is that, hey,

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let's get more teams involved, let's get more teams engaged
based on postseason opportunity. But I'm wondering, though, if we're
looking at thirty teams that are going to make the
college football playoffs, and I know there's some excitement that
could be around that, but do we need to be

(25:56):
focused on just solely, Hey, let's get a larger percentage
of the teams in a college football playoff versus at
some point, when are we really going to look at
the opportunity of breaking away from the NCAA and teams
officially breaking away and forming their own conference, their own league,

(26:20):
the college Football League, whatever you want to call it.
And now, can we pull out forty teams, fifty teams,
whatever the number might be, based on Hey, you've got
to bid into it, you've got to put you've got
to annie up, and certain schools will be able to
pay to get in and be able to compete in

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that league and be one of the top teams. Because
remember in the NFL teams too, I mean, these owners
are buying teams so they can own the team and
be part of the NFL. So, but schools not want
to also have that opportunity to win a national chapeampionship
because of everything that comes along with it, the money

(27:04):
that's involved, and knowing that even more so, the excitement
that could happen based on being able to settle things
without a selection committee. And again what coach Drinkwitz was
talking about there, Hey, these guys are doing the best
they can and women doing the best they can. But

(27:25):
don't we have the opportunity of showcasing the talent out
on the field and letting them settle it. But we
can't do it when it's one hundred and thirty plus
teams on the FBS level and a lot of the
schools are not even playing the same number of conference games.
That's like in the NFL. Can you imagine that the

(27:47):
NFC East teams they played their division games, but somebody
else in the AFC South they only played two division games.
It's not fair. You need to have it all on
equal ground. And I think there's something to be said
about that that again, teams need to go to nine

(28:10):
game conference schedules, But that's a different discussion. The point
is is that, hey, let's get to a point where
we can mimic the NFL because we're already going down
that road we are, and that's where I think we
get so consumed that we don't want college football to
be the NFL, and I question why not. I'm not

(28:33):
saying it has to be the NFL, but what is
so bad about the NFL. You still have fan bases
that are going crazy, that are at times fanatical, just
like we have in college. You still have loyalty, you
still have pageantry, you still have tradition also with NFL teams,
just like you do with college teams, and you have rivalries.

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We see it in the NFL all the time. So
why wouldn't we look at the same type of setup
with college football based on where we are going in
college athletics, and especially just from the legal side of things,
because we know to be able to function at some
point in a true organized entity, there's going to have

(29:19):
to be everybody on the same page and agreeing, and
the only way to do that is through collective bargaining.
So you're going to have to have representation from the players,
the student athletes that are actually playing, or we're just
going to continue to have the scenarios playing out where
you're going to have lawsuits being filed just to be
filed because nobody has done it previously, and they're going

(29:42):
to push the issue to see if they can get
a ruling in their favor, even though we know they
might not be able to. But you have to be
able to test those waters. And that's what we're seeing
with a lot of these lawsuits is that, hey, nobody's
trying to challenge it in the past, so why not
not be the first one? At Obannon look what he

(30:03):
did years ago, and it ultimately led to where we
are now with the House settlement, and that's still not
going to settle everything. So I do think that coach
Drinkwitz thirty team playoff is a bold and maybe even
wild idea, but maybe it is sparking the right conversation.
How do we make college football more inclusive and exciting?

(30:26):
Knowing that, yes, there might be some quote unquote mediocre
teams that get in, but that doesn't mean it's a
bad thing, because if we're just going off of you
have to have the elite of the elite teams in,
then why even have the college football Playoff expanded? Don't
even do it just to have somebody select, oh, these
are the two best teams and go back to the

(30:48):
old BCS model, or just having the AP and UPI
voters come back and have them vote for a national champion. Again.
We thought about doing that. Now people would say that's blasphemy,
that's absolutely absurd. So why would we even think about
continuing to limit the opportunity and him the NFL model,

(31:09):
it's about wins and losses. No committee, you've got some clarity,
and again you do have drama, but we need that
balance of tradition and evolution to be able to progress forward.
That's the big thing that we have to have. And
it's okay because we can honor that. We can have
those scenarios where it's like that. That's why I commend

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Eli Drinkquitz and even said it at the beginning, and
you heard say that, Hey, Greg Sankie, he's not going
to be too excited. Now he didn't say Greg Sankee
by his name, but he said the commissioner of the
SEC and we all know that's Greg Sanki. But I
like that he's okay being able to push forward and

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put out something that's a little bit bold and maybe
a little bit wild, because at the end of the day,
it is going to spark some conversation, it's going to
spark some debates, and it's going to get fans engaged
in terms of, hey, what are the fans saying? What
do they think about this? And I know there's a
lot of talk and even Nick Saban has talked about

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it in the past that hey, nobody's really asking the
coaches their thoughts, and that is definitely a big miss.
But also I think you also need to understand from
a fan perspective, and not that the fans are going
to be intimately involved in making some of these decisions,

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but here are some ideas and thoughts and expectations from
the fans as well, because at the end of the day,
these are your customers. These are the people that are
going to be spending that money, that are going to
be investing their time the most precious thing that they
have to go and watch your teams, to go cheer
for your teams, to be connected to your teams, to

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be involved in your teams, and maybe a saul are
also let me get this down straight. This English language
it gets me going crazy at times, but those fans
are also they're going to be potentially those people that
might be boosters that might be able to contribute to

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help fund your college athletic program there. And so maybe
it's time we also listen to some of what the
fans think, how they want to be engaged and entertained,
and knowing that at the end of the day, regardless
of how the players get to the field and to

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the court, and I've talked about it several times, the
fans are still they want to be entertained. And I
know they might be disgruntled at times, thinking that college
athletics is changing so much that it's not enjoyable anymore.
But don't tell those one hundred thousand fans I saw

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last year showing up in Neeland Stadium, those eighty thousand
fans showing up in Death Valley, those seventy thousand plus
fans showing up at Willie B Down in Columbia to
cheer on those South Carolina game Cocks. They still showed up,
and they still they will still continue to show up

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because they love some college football, just like we all do.
All right. Our two of the Richmond Weavers Show, presented
by Ingles Markets, is coming up next and we'll talk
a little bit more about SEC media days, including Lane
Kiffen and taking a shot at the Clemson Tigers talking
about a week schedule and that they were not a

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team that should have been competing for a college football playoff,
or at least that was insinuated based on some of
his comments. We'll talk about that, and also I'm excited
Brian Kite, author of Daily Discipline dot com, his Daily
Discipline newsletter which you can subscribe to and get that

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in your inbox each day. He's going to be joining
us as we'll continue our conversations about behavior performance, and
I've got some questions to ask him about discipline and
being able to win lose with discipline and what that
looks like much more right after this