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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Exploring the latest headlines and in depth conversations. It's the
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for riches, take on sports. Here's Richmond Weaver.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Ready to roll this Friday.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Right here on the Friday edition of the Richmond Weavers Show,
presented by Ingles Markets.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
We have made it to Friday. We have made it
to the weekend.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
And yes you might be able to hear that in
the background because we are rolling. We are rolling fast
as we are broadcasting from Anderson Motor Speedway, yes, part
of the Cars Tour, as we have a lot of
tires getting hot out there right now as they're trying
to feel their way around this track. And we are

(00:52):
glad you're joining us here on this Friday edition of
the Richmond Weavers Show, presented by our good friends at
Ingles Markets. And it is absolutely fantastic. Gets loud, it's hot,
and there's some racing going on right now. These guys
are practicing and getting ready for the big event tomorrow
here at the Anderson Motor Speedway, So.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Make sure you check that out.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Go to Anderson Motorspeedway dot com and you can find
out more information. It's been a while since I've actually
been in this type.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Of environment, mister Falco. Sounds like actually growing up.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Oh yes, you're talking about I mean this is pure
track side. I love a top of the grand stand here.
Oh yeah, it is phenomenal. And people might not really
know this, but back in the day, growing up, Oh man,
I used to love me some race cars. Really love NASCAR, yes,
even growing up going to dirt tracks. Oh yeah, So

(01:43):
I do have a little bit of that to end
my blood, so to speak. And in fact, coming up
an hour two, I'm going to give you my top
ten NASCAR moments from my memories of watching NASCAR.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
So I'm excited about that.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
And again, a lot of times we're talking college football,
we're talking college basketball, we're talking NFL, all of those right,
then moving forwards that, yes, that grab the headlines. But
there's still something about racing too, because you remember, this
is what we talk about with sports, and we talk
about just the opportunity of mano imano and you know,
just simple forms of competition.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
This is just like running, Let's.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
See who's the fastest, and it just happens to be
they're going a little bit faster than you might normally think.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
So we do have that part of sports.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
In NASCAR, it is the ultimate competition to see who
can be the fastest out there. But we want to
start to show off with something very special and an
opportunity to honor an individual who's been a big part
of the racing community for such a long.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Time in this area.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Jeff Sandlin passed away last July, shocked a lot of
people in the racing community here and we're now joined
by his two children, Tilson and also Sandlin. Thank you
so much for joining us here. And I know this
has to mean something to you here this and I
know it's still probably something that you guys are processing

(03:11):
in terms of losing your father, and I know that's
very difficult, but this is also now the next chapter
of being able to honor what he meant to this community.
And so Bella talk about just how things are progressing
right now and what this means with the Jeff Sandlin
Legacy Foundation.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
So right now we are in the process of creating
two awards that will be presented in all around at
short track, asphalt, dirt, wherever we can get in sure
right now. Tomorrow at the Cars Shore Race here at Anderson,
we're presenting a sixteenth place qualifying award and that will

(03:51):
go to the person who qualifies sixteenth for the race.
Then we're presenting an outside polarward following that sixteenth qualifying
award and that would present it as well. And we're
hoping to carry these throughout the whole racing season laden
up to the Snowball Derby, while we will present the

(04:11):
other awards yes as well.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
And Strange Obl's been a big part of being able
to contribute and support this cause. So mentioned just what
Strange Obil means because your dad is such a big
part of Strange Obil and being able to help supply
a lot of the performance parts and the axles and
everything that these racers need.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Yes, sir, Strange Obil was huge in all of our lives.
All the time, it was just Strange Obl, Strange Obil,
Strange Obil. He loved to work there. It was definitely
his favorite. It allowed him to have that work and
home life balance that he's so yearned for, you know,
he could be active in his kids' lives and still

(04:51):
work at the track. It also allowed him to fellowship
which he loved. He was a life of the party. Uh.
Strange Obil hosted the hospitality tints, you know, big races
like the Derby, and they've really taken us under their wing.
And so now they're helping present this award. It's sponsored
by them, so the winners will get gift certificates for
Strange Obil products.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
That's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
As we're joined by Bella Ray Sandlin and also her
younger brother, Tilson Sandland, as they are helping support the
Jeff Sandland Legacy Foundation and giving back and being able
to spotlight vendors with exemplary service, technical, sport and contributions
to the racing community, which their dad was a big

(05:36):
part of. All right, So Tilson, can you remember what's
the first memory you have coming to the track?

Speaker 5 (05:43):
Well, I remember when I used to come here when
I was younger North Carolina. Sometimes when we come up
and visit our grandmother in South Carolina, we of course
come to the track. And some of the first memories
I have here is the first race I ever went.
It was like one of the first five races, and
I was like, I just want to see cars crashed
because I was really young, and well I got to see.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Some cars crash.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
Oh.

Speaker 7 (06:06):
I remember coming here with.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
My dad since we moved to South Carolina pretty much
every single Friday night. I mean, I think we have
it on Saturday now and watching Ralph Carnes he drives
in the limited late models pretty much dominate. And yeah,
I mean I just grew up here and my aunt

(06:28):
Sylvia used to own this track till this year, and
she put me and my sister to work, you know.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Oh, yes, we got it going.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
We got some great memories here and it's just such
a pleasure to be able to do this at this track,
and it's just so special to me, my sister, my mom,
and of course it would be very special for my dad.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Did I know your dad's looking down and smiling at
the opportunity of what you guys are continuing with the
Jeff Sandlin Legacy Foundation and the big event tomorrow on
the sixteenth. So Tilson talk about the number sixteen though,
and how special that is.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
Sixteen is really really important to our family. My dad's
father worked at fire station number sixteen and he also
lost his dad at the same age item right now,
twelve years old, so he decided to wear sixteen every
single sports and that is the number that he picked
for me and him to wear. So that's why we're
doing the sixteenth Tqulifire Award because that is our family's number.

(07:23):
On the side of my go cart, we got the sixteen,
I mean baseball sixteen, every single sport anything, we're number sixteen.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
I love it, absolutely love it. And then Bella, what's
your thoughts on do you want to race one day?
Do you want to get out there? You want to drive?

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Well, my dad, you know, he would always get on
to me because when he would ride in my car,
he'd be like, my biggest regret is not putting you
in a race car because I mean driving passing people.
I'm I'm kind of a hot head on the road.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
I can't even Yeah, Now, did you get that from
your dad?

Speaker 8 (07:54):
I did?

Speaker 6 (07:55):
Man?

Speaker 7 (07:56):
Was he a hot head?

Speaker 4 (07:57):
I Mean there's stories after stories after story worries. I'm
sure you go in the pits right now and they
can tell you. Oh my goodness. It's one of our
favorite things is just sitting listening to stories of dad
and just just stuff he got into at the racetrack.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
That's right, Tilson, your thoughts would you like to race
one day.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
I would. I'm actually starting to race in flat carts
now and speaking to my sister being a hot head.
The first race ever did we had a little transponder
in to go to my car. I couldn't speak back.
They could speak to me, and she was bugging them.
Let me talk to you and let me talk. They
wouldn't let her because she would chew me out. I

(08:34):
finished third, which I think is respectable, but I probably
wondered if she got on the radio, I'd probably spin
out the leaders.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
That is what siblings do. Sibling love. You have to
enjoy that. Bela, Ray Sandlin and Tilson Sandlin, thank you
so much for joining us here.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
We greatly appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
And it it's an honor to be able to help
you guys, to promote this. This the Jeff Saying Legacy
Foundation and the awards and all of that that goes
into it honoring a great individual and everything that he
meant to the racing community.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
So thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Of course, as we'll continue this Friday edition of the
Richmond Weavers Show presented by Ingles Markets, as we are
live from the Anderson Motor Speedway. Oh yes, you can
hear it in the background. You should come on down.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
It's easy.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
You can watch these guys practice and the big event tomorrow,
the Zmax Cars Tour will go green flag at seven
pm tomorrow night. You can get your tickets at Anderson
Motorspeedway dot com much more. Right after this, the Friday

(09:44):
edition of the Richmond Weavers Show, presented by Ingles Markets,
continues right here on one O four nine Fox Sports
Upstate as we are broadcasting live from Anderson Motor Speedway.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Oh man, there is a lot of action going on.
How the cars seem to be going back into the
pits right now.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
We just had Dale Earnhardt Junior out here getting some
practice in trying to get those tires all warmed up
and see how the cars are performing.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
And yes, that is who we're talking about, Dale Earnhardt Junior.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yes, the one and only he is here and he
will be racing part of the late model stock car
portion of the Zmax Cars Tour that's going to be
here tomorrow night starting at seven pm green flags. They
will have qualifying that'll start a little after five pm,
So make sure you get your tickets to get down

(10:34):
here to Anderson Motor Speedway again Anderson Motorspeedway dot Com.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
And we're also now here we go.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
We're just running all over the place because we've got
Darren Angel here also in the grand stands here watching
all of the practice.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Going on right now. Truth are Darren.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
It's been a while since we've been able to be
in person, and glad you're here.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
And are you a racing guy?

Speaker 7 (10:57):
I am?

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. I grew up. Oh, I grew
up in a racing family.

Speaker 8 (11:02):
I've been going to races since I was a little kid,
Stock car races, Indy Car growing up in Chicago. If
you're a racing fan, you typically go to the Indy
five hundred. So I've been fortunate enough. I've probably gone
to the eighty five hundred fifteen times in my life.
And Formula One race is there, and you know Brickyard,
been to Bristol Motor Speedway. So yeah, short story long,

(11:24):
I've been to my fair share races. Grew up a
racing fan, so this is this is pretty cool. I
wasn't expecting this.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, no, I love that that you have the opportunity
to experience some of this firsthand. Again, especially knowing that
you've been a big time racing fan, and I'm still
just amazed.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
When you think about just how fast.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
I mean, it's insane, how fast they talked about it,
how fast they go.

Speaker 8 (11:54):
It's it's crazy, especially when you get on a you know,
something bigger like a mile oval, or even when you
get out to Indy at the NY five hundred. Those
those guys are going to twenty two thirty. I mean,
it's a blur when they drive by. The only way
you can not you notify them is if you know
the color color schemes of their cars. But even out here,

(12:15):
these guys are, they're moving. I mean this is probably
what a quarter quarter mile out here?

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's right. Jeff Harbor been
over there, just Jeff, real quick, all right, give us
the specs here at Anderson Motor Speedway.

Speaker 9 (12:29):
So this is three eighths of a mile. Yeah, I
think banking is like maybe seven degrees in the turns.
I think, of course the back stretches a little shaped,
a little different than the front. They're very close to
being similar.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (12:47):
This track's been here is like sixty years.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Okay, And it started as a dirt track originally.

Speaker 9 (12:51):
Correct, it started as dirt track and in the late
eighties it was paved to asphalt and this is the
original asphalt is as you can tell. There's some patchwork
that's been in turns and on various spots, but this
is the original asphalt from back in the late eighties.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
And this is the first time in seven years, think
it's twenty and seventeen or eight years, I guess that
they've been able to have the late model stock car
racing here and the first time for the for the
pro right.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (13:18):
So just just to give you a little backstory, the
last time the car's tour was here was in twenty seventeen. Yes,
and the first lap, I think one of the drivers
missed a shift and it was a ten car pile
up in turn one, so took out, you know, half
the field. And since then they kind of have shied
away from Anderson. I mean, okay, but we are. I'm

(13:40):
sure these guys are happy to have them back. I mean,
this is great for this speedway. You know, it was
recently purchased by the children's family and Justin Foster, who
played football at Clempson Ireyne that he's right next door here,
so maybe.

Speaker 7 (13:54):
We can get him to speak something.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
But I love it.

Speaker 9 (13:57):
They have really done a lot of improvements down here
since they go over ownership.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Okay, and so most of these drivers then they do
not they're not they don't know much about this track.

Speaker 7 (14:06):
No, this this track is new, fairly new to them. Now.

Speaker 9 (14:09):
We do have some local drivers who compete here on
Friday night, like David the Rocket, Robberts, the co host
of our show track Chat live here on one of
four nine Fox Sports Substate.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
That's right.

Speaker 7 (14:18):
Also Ralph Carns is here and Gary Greenwood Junior.

Speaker 9 (14:22):
They're all local guys, so they race the speedway each
and every Friday night. So it's really an advantage to
them if you want to say.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
That, Yeah, no question about it.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Well, Jeff, we appreciate you being able to have us
set up and broadcast here because again, it's been a
while since I've been in this position, and you forget
just the energy that is at a track, and if
you ever have an experience it, I'm telling you it's
almost like the same thing when the first time I

(14:51):
experienced a hockey game life, an NHL game life, just
the speed and it's different than just watching it on TV.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
And you talk about loud. I mean it is loud.
Oh yeah, loud, there is no doubt.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
But again, just Jeff, we appreciate you setting us up
and people come down here tomorrow. Anderson Motorspeedway dot com
is where you can get your tickets again. The green
flag will drop at seven pm. All right, mister Darren Angel,
we do have to talk some college athletics and what
we just saw come down at the University of Michigan

(15:29):
and how that is going to I'm trying to understand
just the penalties that Michigan has and in all reality,
since there's no postseason ban, there's no vacating wins, there's
no vacating titles. You know, how are we going to
view Michigan and win in the National Championship two years ago?

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Jim Harball.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
We know that Sharan Moore also is going to have
to set out one additional game next season. And the
fine though that they are levied from the NC DOUBLEA
could go up to close to thirty five million dollars,
so a hefty fine. So you look at it from

(16:13):
that perspective like, wow, did the NC DOUBLEA lay the
hammer down in terms of a financial fine but didn't
really do anything else. And I think at the end
of the day, I think a status quo for Michigan.

Speaker 8 (16:27):
Yeah, you know, I mean it's one of those things
that if if you don't have to do the things
that you just mentioned, like vacate victories, vacated championship or
you know, not necessarily so much a death penalty, but
a significant fine or a significant not being able to
compete in the playoffs something like that. You know, then

(16:49):
then you start talking about WHOA, this thing's real, because
now you've got a perennial national championship contender, not able
to compete for a national championship for X amount of years.
But in all reality, if they're good enough this year,
they could go out and win the national championship this
year and and we wouldn't really know, no one would
baden eye. That's right. But but what is interesting to

(17:10):
me about this, and I'm not saying that they got
it right and they got it wrong or or anything
in between, other than to say, you know, thirty to
thirty five million dollars fine to an athletic department, that's
that isn't a small chunk of change. Now Michigan football
alone brings in about one hundred and thirty hundred and
forty million dollars a year.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Well, Michigan also has a seventeen billion dollar endowment, So
this is a school that is extremely rich from a
monetary standpoint, and we can say rich in history also.
But my goodness, the alumni base that they have at
such a big school. It's a big institution, and I

(17:52):
don't think there's any issue for them being able to
raise that type of money. But the other side of
this is that this fine by the NC it's actually
not anything that Michigan is going to have to pay.
It's just that they will not receive that from the
Big Ten. When they receive their meteor rights, they'll have

(18:12):
net of thirty five million dollars less.

Speaker 8 (18:15):
Yeah, that's a great that's a great point. That's that's
that's the key point to clarify. It's not a it's
not so much a fine as is. It's just you
can't participate in revenue sharing, which which I mean they
can probably do without for a couple of years and
be okay now. But you know, it's it's one of
those things I do wonder because I imagine you and myself
and I imagine a lot of our our listeners like

(18:37):
have followed this thing at least close enough to know
a lot of the details. And part of me wonders
if this thing got to a point where they just
couldn't come up with a smoking gun. But it was
kind of one of those things where like, if it
walks like a duck and it's the is it It
walks like a duck, it talks like a duck, it
probably is a duck. Yes, And so I wonder if

(18:59):
that was was maybe the final thing here they just
could not figure out what it was.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
But hey, there's there was something going on here.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
According to the NC double A is that they didn't
want to punish players that are there currently in terms
of postseason bands or vacating wins because most of the
people that are involved are no longer with the institution.
And so I think we're going to see where we
won't see any more postseason bands, we won't see any

(19:29):
more vacation of wins or you know, vacated wins or
anything of that nature. So I think there's something you
know from that standpoint. And then also I do believe
that the NC double A in terms of the financial
aspect of it, and the leveling of the fine is
that they just could not get cooperation from a Jim Harball, yeah,

(19:52):
and other people that.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
They just continued to be.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Obstinate about their involvement, and also you know that they
were almost stonewalling at times. And because the nc DOUBLEA
did confirm that it was Connor Stallion's that he was
on the sidelines of the Central Michigan game, and that
was one of the ones, you know, in question where
they did at least have some evidence, So you know,
I think there was definitely some information out there that

(20:19):
would lead them to believe that, yes, they were not
following rules. And according to some of the reports through
the NCUBLEA. It's a seventy four page document that the
NCAA put out. So I'll let you the lawyer, I'll
let you decipher everything through that. But at the end
of the day, it seems that Jim Harbaugh and Michigan

(20:41):
just did not care about the nc double A and
the rules. And now some of them, I do understand
that they're ridiculous, some of the rules that the NCUBA has,
But when you get to a point where you think
you're above a certain organization, regardless of what you think
about the nc double A. And then you just continue
you to stonewall, you continue to quote unquote hide information

(21:04):
or lie. Then there's not much more than NCAA can
do in terms of Okay, well, we've got to come
down to some degree. But I think at the end
of the day, I don't know if it's going to
really impact Michigan a whole lot.

Speaker 8 (21:19):
I really don't think so. I tend to agree with you.
I really I don't see a massive I don't see
a massive issue long term for them at all. You know,
and for whatever reason, I'm not saying that they should have,
but they really didn't get any like negative publicity from
a recruiting perspective where they had guys you know, commit

(21:41):
or decommit or they all of a sudden couldn't get
big time players for a couple of years. This really
has not impacted them all. No, Now, they didn't have
a good season last year.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
We do know that.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Relative to coming off of the National Championship and being
ranked in the top twenty five and then not finishing
in the top twenty five, I do understand that. But
I wonder, just from a fan perspective, And this is
what I'd love some of the listeners out there. If
your team was able to win a national championship but

(22:14):
got caught doing something and had to pay a twenty
to thirty five million dollar fine two years after the fact,
do you sign up for it? I think there's a
lot of fans that would sign up for it. Give
us a call. Eight six four two four zero five
four eight zero. Again that numbers eight six four two
four zero five four eight zero. I just wonder if

(22:37):
fans would sign up for it if I had to bet.

Speaker 8 (22:41):
I think if we took a poll, it would be
over fifty percent.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Of people, and they might not want to admit it
for sure.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yes, but after the fact is more, is what I'm
getting at. Like Michigan fans right now, like, well, okay,
we got a Natty, we got a national championship.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
We're good.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Got a Natty, Yes, and we beat Ohio State again
last year.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
You know, so what's the big deal? Who cares?

Speaker 8 (23:04):
The one thing that you brought up earlier that I
do really like about this though moving forward, is I
do like trying not to punish the student athletes that
are there right now that's been a frustration in mine
for a long time is when these penalties come down,
they're like pro they're like prospective penalties, and it's like, well,
I wasn't there for any of this. I didn't sign

(23:25):
up for any of this, but now I'm punished for it.
So I do like the fact that there wasn't anything
that's going to impact the current roster for guys that
weren't there. But it's still obviously wanted to be part
of that historic tradition at Michigan. So if that's the
way we're going to go moving forward, I do think
that's a step in the right direction and that we're
not going to punish kids prospectively.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah, and you think about some of the punishments right now.
Even Jim Harball a ten year show calls order restricting
him from all athletically related activities during this show calls period,
which will begin on August the seventh, at twenty twenty eight,
because he's got to conclude the four year show calls

(24:05):
order from a previous in fraction.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
His college days are dune. Yeah, so but we knew that,
we knew that. That's why he went to the NFL.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
He got this national championship, he had his show calls,
He knew was going to get another job in college football,
or at least we thought, and so why not just
go ahead and jump to the NFL? And for sure now,
I mean, we know he's going to stay there in
the NFL, and Connor Stallions also an eight year show
calls order, and he's maybe thinking that he can get

(24:35):
another Netflix documentary on thing. So we'll see how that
plays out. But this is where the frustrating thing is.
I know there's other schools that are frustrated based on
where we are now in terms of penalties, because think
about this, going all the way back to Southern Cow

(24:57):
Reggie Bush. They were punished for seven years, a two
year Bowl ban, thirty revoked scholarships, fourteen vacated wins, a
vacated National championship, and a vacated Heisman Trophy for Reggie
Bush because Reggie Bush's parents leased a house that they

(25:19):
found from an NFL agent and the NFL agent helped
them with payments on that house. So based on that
and then what Michigan was accused of doing and the
penalties that they received. Now again you can look at
the vacated wins the vacated national championship. I don't think

(25:42):
from a fan perspective that you're going to say we
didn't win that national championship, even if Michigan right now
would have.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Been levied a.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Fine of and when I say fine and a penalty
of punishment of vacating their national championship, from my perspective,
I'm still saying, well, they won the national championship.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
I mean they did.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
I don't know how you because how are you going
to crown anybody else a national champion?

Speaker 2 (26:11):
You're not.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
I mean, they did play out on the field and
we're able to win. And again that's where you can
dive into the weeds and dive into all the intersections
of what they did to prepare for some of those games,
and were they sign stealing? Were they doing some things illegal?
And again that's another conversation also just in terms of

(26:33):
sign stealing, what does that mean, what's the definition of
that and how is it in other sports? And you know,
so there's so many factors that go into it. But
we're in a different time, we're in a different place
versus the Reggie Bush and how the NCAA was regarding
amateurism to now where we are, because we know that

(26:54):
things have completely evolved over the many years in terms
of how the NC is. But at the end of
the day, here we go, nobody's going to care come
August thirtieth, No, when teams truly kick off in Week
one of college football, and he's just gonna be status quo.
And for coach more with Michigan, he's got to sit

(27:16):
out two games this year, and ironically one of them
is Central Michigan, you know, so there's that and then
the Nebraska game. But he does get to coach against
his former school, the Oklahoma Sooners yep, in the second game.
So again from his perspective, yeah, white, my hands keep going.

Speaker 8 (27:38):
We get him in, we get a mid major by
game that I'm sitting out, and then you know, yeah
one that you know, one that probably has a little
bit more meaning on a calendar.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
But no, it's.

Speaker 8 (27:50):
It is very interesting to see how this all played out,
because it just really doesn't seem like there was a
whole heck of a lot.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
I mean, you know what.

Speaker 8 (27:58):
Maybe surprised me the most too, is the the not
and you mentioned this with the USC thing, and I
think this is where it gets really crippling is pulling scholarships. Yeah,
like the fact that they didn't have any scholarships pulled
here is is really intriguing to me for you know
what these allegations were, because that's how you can, I think,

(28:18):
really inflict the program with some some harm.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
So here's here's my question too, then, especially now where
we are in college athletics, and I think people are
testing the waters.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
From a legal standpoint.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, and we're seeing it obviously from the you know,
five years to play for you know how many times
you can transfer, you know all of these things, how
much you know eligibility? Can you restrict eligibility? Can you
restrict earning caps? You know for players?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
All of that?

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Could we have seen could the n C double A
And I want you to put your lawyer cap on
And I know that's not too hard, that's what you
do each day now. But thinking about if the NC
DOUBLEA tried to vacate a title, try to vacate some
of the wins from Michigan, would Michigan say all right, well,
let's pony up, let's let's let's take this.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
You can't do that to us. That's not a form
of punishment.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
I don't know what the how the bylaws are written
in what Michigan signs based on where they are as
a member an institution of the NC double A from
an athletic standpoint.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, you know, that's an interesting question.

Speaker 8 (29:36):
It's uh, I don't have a I don't necessarily have
a definitive answer to it, but I think I think
I would go to this scenario of, hey, do we
think we have a legitimate argument here, and if we do, yeah,
we are.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Going to push the limits here.

Speaker 8 (29:53):
But but if we don't have a very strong argument
or it's going to potentially give negative you know, negative
marketing to to the university and the program, then maybe
we we sit back and take it on the chin
or try to negotiate, you know, a lesser penalty. But uh,
it certainly would be the theme along along the lines

(30:15):
of what's been going on inclusion ads lately of additionally
pushing the legal limits for sure, no question.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Let us know your thoughts eight six four two four
zero five four eight zero and let's head out to
the Ingles hot line right now the Richmond Weavers show.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Who's this it's going on? Rich how are you Bud doing? Fantastic, Neil,
how about you, my friend.

Speaker 6 (30:36):
Man, you guys are was already gonna call it. You
guys got got me started on Jim Harribos, So I'm
gonna go ahead and get my concent. I love listening
to Darren Angel, by the way, and I just want
to comment on something that he said. First, he said
it would be at least fifty percent of the fans.
It would be ninety nine point nine percent of you
in reality, Richmond, are we not? Are we not paying

(30:57):
coaches fifty million dollars another even coaching there anymore to
buy them out?

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (31:01):
Think, of course we are.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 6 (31:04):
Though, if you're gonna give me a chance now with it,
I'm gonna give you a caveat for my Gators. I
will take it even if they have to pay fifty
million in two years, three years, as long as you
take them. Billy Napier with you and he's not the
head coach anymore.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Oh, here we go. I don't know if that's a
part of the equation. If he were to.

Speaker 6 (31:25):
Win the national championship, I don't care if you cheated
or not. I want him to stay. But I don't
see that in the foreseeable future. I don't see that
so absolutely I would take it second point. This is
something you guys aren't talking about. This is just some
knucklehead that I got into an argument with on Twitter.
He's comparing Josh Allen and winning MVP. Why didn't Lamar
win it? Look on your show, I've taken up for

(31:46):
Lamar a million times. Rich, you know that I'm going
Josh Allen under the bus a million times. However, it
is not apples and oranges like we always talk about
in life. You don't get you're not given the same
amount of opportunities. If I was Brownie James Games, I
would be in the NBA. Guess what because his dad
is Lebron. I don't have that opportunity because guess what,

(32:06):
my dad was not Lebron James, we don't have the
same opportunities. Josh Allen does not have the same team
that Lamar has. Lamar has way more weapons. He also
has a better offensive line. He has a better running
back who people are literally putting seven eight in the
box to stop. He has a better head coach, and
Josh Allen pretty much has to do it all. I mean,

(32:28):
if you go back and you look at the games
that he won, the last team games that they played.
Josh Allen was literally having to put up thirty plus
points on every game just to have a chance to win,
just to have a chance to win. Not just to win,
but just to have a chance to win. Okay, Look,
they're both unique players, they're both awesome players. You can
put MVP, but don't. His one argument, Rich, was that
Josh Allen had a game last year where he went

(32:50):
nine out of thirty against I think it was against Houston. Like, really,
that's your one argument, goes nine out of thirty one game.
Get over it already. Okay, they're both awesome. They're both
in the top five of quarterbacks in the league. They're
both in the top five or ten and players in
the league. So you can't knock either one of them.
But if your argument is that he went nine out
of thirty, I can make a lot of other arguments

(33:11):
the other way. All right, Yes, third thing, I got
to comment on some of the people calling me out Rich,
you know that. Of course, I got to be near
the Greek you know, we got to have some fun.
First of all, to Sean de Caller Listen, I apologize
to you, sir. I did not mean anything negative towards
you at all. You hate the Cowboys and you hate Clenson,
and I love that about you because I hate them

(33:33):
both myself. I heard that he was in front of
his son, and I don't know how old his son is,
but if his son is listening today, Sean is awesome.
I was making a joke. I was trying to make
a joke more with Chad, because Chad I never said this, Rich.
I don't know if you remember the guy named Gincock will.
I know he passed away a couple of years ago,
but he used to sell all the radio stations locally,
and Chad reminds me of him so much. I love Chad.

(33:55):
I love to hear calls and you go back and forth.
The banner's awesome. Okay, Billy. Now, my brother called me
out last week when I was talking about the rules.
He said, I can promise you one thing about my
younger brothers. All those rules that he hate probably has
to do with something that he's lost in betting. I
called you and told you that was probably true. I
only had a minute and a half that day, so

(34:16):
I had to make it quick. I'm going to flink.
Most of those are real. Okay. For example, of one
of the rules that gotten me crazy is all sides
in soccer. If you're stupid enough to let a guy
get behind you and the guy passes it to him
by kicking the ball to him, and you're behind him
now and he's in front of you, that's on you,
not on him. If he's faster than you, that's your fault.

(34:36):
I don't know how much money I've lost over time,
Rich by guy's scoring and then they take it back
off of all side. But that is one of the dumbest,
stupidest pimalties and rules in all the sports. Let's put
it that with say, he's right, but I haven't told
you anything about Billy yet. A couple things about Billy.
First of all, Billy is the one already betting preseason football.
Rich just saying Gator Neil Flash forty nine O Neil

(34:59):
Flash Neil the Greek hasn't bet one preseason game yet.
Billy is also the guy back in the day, And
I can promise you, no matter how bad he said,
Dallas was going to be that every week if you
get on his sports book. Every week he's betting Cowboys
first quarter, first half, second half, game, all of it. Now,
I still play because Billy knew that was a win

(35:21):
win for him, either he won his bet or that
means the Cowboys loss.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
There.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
Now he's gonna get some good sleep then, okay, which
he does when the Cowboys loses. All right, Now, one
one thing about Billy before I get to two other
quick people. One of the things that Billy said yesterday
to me that I almost wrecked when he said it.
You know, everybody has to have their own format of entertainment.
BILLI and I are old. His son is in his
early thirties. We play a little Madden online together. We

(35:50):
play a little NCAA football online together. Billy told me
yesterday Richmond that every time that he loses on that game,
that means that his teams are going to be bad.
That year he's playing Madden and he loses with Dallas,
Dallas is gonna be bad. If he plays with his
game cock and he loses with the gamecock, the Gamecock
is gonna be bad. Maybe, sir, just maybe that's why

(36:12):
your teams are stuck the last twenty years, because you
keep losing.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Just saying, we're not buying into that superstition there and
we got to hit this break, Neil, so give me
your other thoughts here.

Speaker 6 (36:24):
One thing to my nephew, Sean. Okay, this is the
last one. He's listening. You know, he's up in Indiana.
He's listening to your show right now on the iHeart
Radio app.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Fantastic.

Speaker 6 (36:32):
John's gonna take his ass to Gainesville tonight on that
game and I'm gonna shut sellers down and I'm gonna
thank him. I hope he's listening. I know he is
because I told him to Sean, that's his name too.
I'm gonna thank you tonight, sir. You're bringing your ass
to Gainesville and forget Billy Napier and Neil the Greek
is gonna be the head coach of the Gators.

Speaker 7 (36:51):
Appreciate it, rich There we go.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Yeah, we always appreciate it. Bring in some fire, bring
in some energy here and Sean, let's see if you
can beat Neil. I think you can. I'm gonna speak
it into existence. There you go, and we thank you
for listening through the iHeartRadio app as We'll continue this
Friday edition other Richmond Weavers Show presented by Ingles Markets
right after this, Well, we have a showdown going on

(37:21):
right now here at Anderson Motors Speedway.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
You can come down here.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
It's the guys are practicing tomorrow. They're going to be
racing for real. They will have qualify and starting at
little after five pm and the green flag will drop
there at seven pm. Go to Anderson Motorspeedway dot com
to get your tickets. Part of the Xmax Cars Tour.
You've got the Late Model Stock and also the Pro
Late Model Series both going to be racing tomorrow, so

(37:48):
you definitely want to come check it out. Mister Dale
Earnhardt Junior, Yes, is practicing today and he will be racing,
so you get an opportunity to see a legend Hall
of Famer Dale Earnhardt Junior. As we're continuing this Friday
edition of the Richmond Weavers Show presented by our good
friends at Ingles Markets, and as you heard Neil talking
about his nephew there Sean being able to listen in

(38:13):
Indianapolis there that you can do it through the iHeartRadio app.
So make sure you download the iHeartRadio app either through
the App Store or on Google Play and just search
one O four to nine Fox Sports. Once you have
that downloaded and you can find the station and listen
whenever and wherever you want to and be able to
put it into.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Your preset button there.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
And also mister Darren Angel Truth or Darren is here
with us live as well as he's a big racing fan.
So why not come on down to Anderson Motor Speedway, Yes,
and join the views, right, I mean we've got the best.

Speaker 8 (38:45):
View, which we've got a pretty good view. I mean
we're just right to the right of the start finish
line here exactly. And this was just Jeff was able
to hook us up and give us this opportunity and
allowing us the opportunity to be in Also, I would
have to say air condition, big.

Speaker 7 (39:03):
Difference normal tailgate Friday location.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
All right, Jeff, I do want to make sure that
people do understand the show that you have Track Chat
live Thursday nights at eight o'clock with David the Rocket
Roberts talk about that show and just what people can
expect on Thursday nights at eight o'clock.

Speaker 9 (39:21):
So what we do is basically bring the short track
eight racing action to the fans. Yeah, it's a show
based on all tracks like Anderson Motter Speedway, tri County Speedway,
Hickory Motter Speedway, which is, you know, NASCAR sanctioned, oldest
sanctioned track in the series. There with the short tracks

(39:42):
Kingsport Speedway. Then we also make a trip to dirt
speedways as well, so we have Travelers Rest, we have Harris,
we have Cherokee, Lawrence Lavonna.

Speaker 7 (39:52):
So it's all about the local action, you know.

Speaker 9 (39:54):
We have on our sister station ninety two point five
w e SE, they do have NASCAR Live which co
there was the Cup Series, but we try to cover
the local stuff because these guys deserve a spotlight as well,
and you know, stuff like this is what helps keep
those tracks thriving, is bringing attention, bringing awareness and as
a matter of fact, my co host four Track Chat
Live The Rocket, David Roberts, is participating in this event.

Speaker 7 (40:17):
He is in the blue eighteen.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
There we go.

Speaker 9 (40:19):
He actually was out on the speedway earlier. I think
I see him there. He's just now passing us on
the speedway. There he goes making laps and he's trying hard.
I told him, I said, is your goal gonna be
just to finish in front of Junior? And he's like,
I just want to finish in.

Speaker 7 (40:35):
One piece, just no res yes, wreck.

Speaker 9 (40:40):
So whether he finishes in front of Junior or behind Junior,
as long as he can take the car put it
in the trailer with no damage, then he considers out
to win.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Well, and I think there's probably some fans that would
enjoy some of the wrecks. As we talked with Tilson Sandlin,
a twelve year old, his first memory when he came
to the track, I wanted to see a crash. And
I think there is well something that as fans, especially
young fans.

Speaker 7 (41:03):
About short right racing.

Speaker 9 (41:04):
You know, they always say you go to a race
and sometimes a fight will break out.

Speaker 7 (41:08):
Well here lately, you go to a fight and a
race will break out.

Speaker 9 (41:13):
If Kingsport Speedway last week they had a brawl, but
there we go.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
They it gets heated here on the racetrack. There is
no question. All right, let's take a look at some
of the latest headlines.

Speaker 7 (41:26):
It's only one game.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Flight and that's to take care of.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Men hitting the latest headlines. It's the daily rundown.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
All right.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
How about this In the NBA, here you go, mister
Darren Angel. I know you're a big basketball guy. The
watch guide is out for the NBA season. So basically
there is a wide variety of platforms that you're going
to be able to watch the NBA. On Sunday, games
are going to be on either ABC or NBC with Peacock.

(41:56):
Then Monday it'll be games through Peacock, Tuesday in in Peacock.
But on Wednesdays you're gonna have games via ESPN.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Thursday will be the New.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Prime Video, and then Friday it'll be Prime and ESPN,
and then Saturday Prime and ABC. Obviously, we know the
NBC is taking over the.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Majority of the games there.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
For the NBA, but this is just interesting to see
where this is going, that you're not having just a
select distribution platform, You're having a wide variety.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
And exposure in so many different ways we are.

Speaker 8 (42:40):
I'm really excited for what Prime has to offer because
I'm very curious to see if there's gonna be opportunities
not quite like lead Pass, but where you're gonna be
able to watch more teams than the same six that
played on ESPN and TNT every every single week.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
That's right, yes, no doubt. All right, how about this?

Speaker 3 (43:00):
This is interesting as we're talking about to colleges and
how it's changing, and even sponsorships because we're going to
continue to see sponsorships and logos out on fields, logos
on jerseys.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
I know fans, especially in college, just.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Do not touch the helmet. We don't need logos on
the helmets. And I would agree one hundred percent. But
how about this at James Madison, James Madison's School of Professional.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
And Continuing Education.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Signs a four year deal with the Dukes first on
the field logo sponsor. So it's a partnership featuring an
internal university academic entity as an on field logo sponsor
for the university's athletic program. But I thought they're all

(43:50):
the same, right are they under one umbrella? So is
this not the beginning of what we're truly starting to
see that there is a separation between the athletic department
and the university. And I know we've heard the cliche
many times that the French port the front porch to

(44:10):
university is through the athletic department, and we have seen
that Clemson can attest to that. Applications ad missions went
through the roof when Clemson was making their run with
two national championships in twenty sixteen to twenty eighteen. So
is this not where we're going that we're going to
see continuation of a split between athletic departments and the university.

Speaker 8 (44:33):
It would sure see that way. I'm curious this is
This is interesting though, because in some ways maybe you're
aware of James Madison, but maybe you don't know that
they've got it great. And I don't know this this
is an example, but maybe they've got a great education school,
but maybe you don't know that, and so the education
department gets gets a little you know, national attention. I'm

(44:54):
intrigued by this. This was interesting, but your point is
is correct. Yes, I think we're moving further and further. Ye,
there is no question.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
And also this in college athletics, you and c North Carolina,
the revenue share information is coming out that part of
their revenue share of the twenty million dollars thirteen million
dollars going to football, two hundred and fifty thousand to
baseball and women's basketball, and seven million to men's basketball.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
And that's seven million.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
That's a big number for basketball, especially when you look
at other teams in the ACC, like a Clemson which
has about two million dollars funding for men's basketball, So
that is something that is very interesting to see how
the revenue share, the revenue dollars are being spent in

(45:45):
different entities within college athletics.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
All right, that is.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
Some of the latest headlines, and we will continue our
two of the Richmond Weaver presented by Engles Markets as
we're broadcasting live here at Anderson Motors Speedway.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Much more right after this
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