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It's a beautiful day, just in the estate. We love
these days.
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It's still hot, though, my gosh, it's still hot.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
I feel like a couple of weeks ago was really hot.
Really so at least I'm like that primed me. I'm
like that could be.
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Worse, that's right, Yes, it could definitely be worse, and
so I do have to make sure that you look
at each day. It's a blessing, right and what are
you going to do with it? You know, all of
those cliches that you can say and just enjoy that
we do have this type of weather. So I am
appreciative of that. I just don't know if I need
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this amount of humidity. That's part of the problem because
when you just standing there, even in the shade, and
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let me make sure I'm phrasing this correctly. That yes,
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we know we're regionally based, locally based here in Greenville,
South Carolina, but doesn't mean we're not going to talk
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know so much is going on just from a changing
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Extra hour podcast. We'll say exclusive hour.
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or obviously live on the radio at one of four
nine Fox Sports Upstate. Okay, so I did enough of
the dirty word making sure that out of the way. Yes,
I got all of that type of content out there,
so it's easy to really start talking college football right now.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
The NFL.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I get all of that, and we're all about that,
But there's also going on right now outside of the
changing of college athletics. There's other things that are going
on in college sports which leave me scratching my head
and trying to understand why are we trying to just
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change for the sake of change? Right, And I'm referring
to college basketball. You know, love me some college basketball,
you yes, yeah me.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
What but the thought that.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
There's growing support through the nc DOUBLEA and some university presidents,
et cetera, that the NCAA tournament March Madness their cash cow,
remember that, oh, their cash cow. That there should be
expansion from sixty eight to seventy two or possibly seventy
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six teams, and it could be as early as twenty
twenty six. Yes, And so I'm looking at it from
a perspective of not so much that, oh my gosh,
do not change.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
The NCAA tournament. It's perfect, right.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
There's really nothing perfect. There's so many things that you
could I shouldn't say so many, but there's several flaws
within the NCAA tournament and a lot of it just
has to do with selection committee and how the teams
get in and the seeding, you know, all of that
and so, but from an inherent standpoint as far as
being able to crown your champion, I know some people say, oh, well,
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you know it's one and done. So you have these upsets,
and so do you always have the best team, right
that makes it to the championship game and wins the
National Championship. And I still contend do we have that
in any sports? That, right, the best team during the
regular season always wins a championship, a Super Bowl or
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you know, a Stanley Cup Final, or a Larry O'Brien trophy,
you know, or a World Series trophy.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
That doesn't happen.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
No, and this whole idea of the best team is
subjective anyways, it depends on the night, no doubt, each
night there's a different best team. Like like you look
at out of the season of a hole. Sure you
could look at like and go okay with the Eagles
because obviously they won the Super Bowl. Well yeah, that's
because they continued night after night to be the best team.
But if they had lost to the Commanders, they wouldn't
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be the best.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Team, right exactly. That's literally how it works.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
That's how it works, and that's why, Yes, this whole
idea that, oh, you you've got to be able.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
To crown the best team, and so we've.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Got to devise away to give everybody a shot that opportunity.
And I'm just not under that belief and so again
I felt sixty four teams, that was it. Yeah, it
all fits on one cable.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yes, in terms of you got your brackets, it's easy.
You know, you've got you know your four quadrants of
sixteen teams and you run with it. And if we
can't pick sixty four teams out of the three hundred
plus teams in college basketball that legitimately have a shot
to win a national championship, there were in trouble if
we have to go to seventy two or seventy six,
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and even going to see I was never a big
fan of going to sixty eight. But I'm not going
to sit here and try to die on that hill that.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
No, do not expand.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
And if the NCAA tournament expands, it expands, and I'm
going to love it. In terms of the tournament itself,
I'm still going to enjoy it. And I know they're
from a marketing standpoint, it does give you some extra games,
and do you have that opportunity of playing a few
days before like we do with the first four. Maybe
now it's going to be called the first eight whatever
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it might be from a marketing standpoint, and I get it.
There's also this thought money is involved. So there's an
aspect of trying to increase your leverage from a media
rights deal saying we've got more teams, that means more games,
that means more content live sports, because we know the
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one thing that people will still set an appointment for to.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Watch, that's live sports.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Oh yeah, because there's appointment TV is done outside of
sports and news. Your local news are Fox News or
you know, CNN, something of that nature, but outside of that,
it's either DVR you're streaming it.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
I do have to wonder, and this ties back into
what we talked about yesterday, and that is the fact
and it's a little bit different, but we talked about
that Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Is it football?
Speaker 5 (09:27):
And I wonder if you go and expand and you
have eight teams playing to get in, you talk about
appointment viewing depending on the teams that are trying to
play to get in, will it really be appointment viewing?
Will people care enough to watch? And I mean what
I mean by that.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Is is the juice worth the squeeze?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Is it's worth ass adding for more games because oh,
we can get more money out of it, But if
people aren't watching it, how are you going to get money.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Out of it?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
If it becomes too diluted, right, then you're going to
be in that situation where people are going to be
turned off by it and wanting to I shouldn't say
move away, but not have the same type of gusto
luster because again, when it comes Thursday March Madness, that
first tip off at a few minutes afterwards noon, I
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mean I am glued, I amctly ready to go, and
it does take away if you have all of these
other games before that first Thursday, right, Well, and you're
the basketball guy, how many how much of that do
you watch?
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Those kind of play in like first four, now, maybe
first eight.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I'm sure you watch it, but how invested are Okay?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I would have to say, I'm probably not a good
person to ask.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Oh, okay, because you just watch them all. I'm a
former coach.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Oh that's fair, And so there's times I watch it
from a different lens. But also I remember growing up,
if basketball was on, I was watching.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
It, right, it didn't matter what team.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
And that's what my wife was like, you don't even
know these teams, and I was like, yeah, but it
is college basketball.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Right, Yeah, to play exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I want to I want to see maybe you might
see some greatness, whatever it is. But your point is
very well taken. Casual fans, they're not watching it, right
And and I'm not saying that those first four games
that I'm watching every single minute exactly so, but I'm
definitely interested right to watch it. Life gets in the
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way at times. But back in the day, though, I
mean I would almost change my schedule to make sure
I was watching March Madness. Yeah, you know, now the
first four I know it's part of March Madness, right,
but I'm not going out of my way to change
my schedule if there's a conflict. So to your point that, yeah,
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maybe there's always some people that are not even that
interested in the first four.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, and you want to expand past.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Past that, yes, and so where I'm also going with
all this So take all of those scenarios a factors
as far as why are we even looking at expanding right?
But even more so, and this is what we talked
about yesterday also with Darren Is and I wanted to
hone on this a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Why are we.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Trying to focus on changing some things that for right now,
it's working, but what we do know we have bigger
issues out there. And when I say issues, I'm saying
all of the changes that are going on with college
athletics right now and the house settlement, nil right transfer portal,
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and this fragmentation of the conferences right now where nobody's understanding,
you know, what they want in the future as far
as a college football playoff, and again talking about expansion there.
I'm okay with expanding, but don't you need to get
your house in order first before you start changing the
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dishes and you know, start changing things from your kitchen
or start remodeling things inside your house when you don't
even have the foundation built.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Good point.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I mean, we've got to get to the point where
we're looking at opportunities of solidifying the foundation right college athletics,
and I think there's some I wouldn't say easy solutions,
but I think there's some logical solutions that will take
some work. But we're too worried about trying to figure
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out if we need more teams and then caa tournament.
And I don't understand why we're losing so much focus
other than is it just human nature? Also that when
we see something that might be difficult. We just procrastinate
well and just focus on something else. Oh well, yeah,
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I don't know if we can solve that, but yeah,
we can fix this.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
We can fix this. Ye, we'll get a sense.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Of a conference roofs caving in. But I can patch
this leaky pipe. You know it works. I also wonder too,
who views it as broken to the point of, you know,
you and I are talking about, Hey, this is structurally
there are issues here just as a whole in college athletics.
But do the powers that be, the ones that would
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make that decision, do they even see it as needing fixing?
And that could be the core root of the problem.
They're looking at it and going, no, like it looks
fine to me. Everything's working, and you know, we really
like how the conferences are going.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
And until.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Conferences coaches, you know, people that really matter outside of
a fan base, start going and making a ruckus and
going hey guys, and they are, but you need more,
you need a full on like everybody.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Has to be on the same page.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
And until that happens, I don't know the NCAA really
views it as as broken or they're looking at it
and going, yeah, I mean maybe, but like.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
This tournament over here, let's let's fix that. Let's fix
a focus on that.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, And that's what I don't understand is that we're
losing focus on losing sight on what really matters. And
you know, from a perspective of all right again, it's
not so much that it's broken, but okay, but how
can we try to increase revenue? So is that driving everything?
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That it's all about the revenue? And yes, we can
look at it from that age old cliche that if
you have a question about something and the motivation behind it,
you can pretty much say it's money. No, that's the answer. Well, yeah,
that's the answer. And so I know there's Rob Dauster
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does a great job with fiel to sixty eight College
Basketball podcast and College Basketball Media Network, and he posted
a poll and basically just said do you want NC
doublea tournament expansion?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yes or no?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
And so there's obviously the audience that Rob Dawster is questioning.
It's college basketball fans, because everybody's if they're if he's
sending out a question, he's sending it out to college
basketball fans, right, And I think that's a good start
as far as this good litmus test. It's a good
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litmus test as far as a right do the fans
really want it right? Because how many times do the
fans ever really get any say into it?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yeah, very rarely.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And I'm not saying that the NC double A is
going to listen to what, you know, fans say on
a social media post or you know whatever. But I
think there's at least a good indication that when you
have almost seven thousand votes and ninety four percent of
the responders say no, ninety four percent quite a lot.
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That's quite a lot. And I know Matt Norlander, CBS Sports,
who we've had on the show before, he responded to
the post and said, you might not get ninety four
percent that say.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
The sky is blue?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Right?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I mean, so I mean to get ninety four percent, No,
that's pretty clear indicator.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
It's basically unanimous, yes.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Exactly, that college basketball fans are saying, no, what are
we doing? We don't need we don't need this expansion.
It's working the way it is. We're not trying to
say that it's perfect, right, but you don't have to
tinker with this. If you want to change some other things,
look at the bigger picture, look at the other side
of things that are happening right now. So it's going
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to be interesting to see how this plays out in
terms of what the NCAA will do. Because Charlie Baker
and the president of the n CUBA, he's already come
out and said, oh, we've got serious momentum that it's
going to be seventy two or seventy six.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
So I think this is going to happen. Yeah, I
really do.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Because once it gets to that point where it's publicly
talked about.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, they've already had conversations. It's been going on.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Yeah, they've had these conversations going on for years.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, it's just now that it's full steam ahead basically.
And and you know, because he wouldn't also come out
and say those type of statements without also having a
real good idea of what might potentially happen in terms
of media right steals right and would a CBS would
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TNT with TBS, you know, true TV? Are they going
to be willing to say, Okay, yes we can look
at redoing the contract. If you expand then yeah there's
more content, So maybe there's more media rights opportunities in
terms of.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Dollars and I get it.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
There's also does that potentially help then for college athletics,
the non revenue generating sports Olympic sports. So does that
give an opportunity for more money that could be coming
into the NCAA that could be filtered down? But as
of right now that that doesn't seem to be the
driving force.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Not that's not what we're hearing.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
We're just hearing, Oh, we want to expand yeah, we're
gonna do this, yeah, exactly. So I think there's also
if it was positioned and if this was really true,
that it would be an opportunity to earn more dollars
that could help other sports in college athletics because of
all of the changes going on right now. Okay, then
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maybe some fans might be a little bit Okay, I
see the bigger picture, right and there's a purpose there.
It might be something behind it, but as of right now,
there's there's nothing bet it really or other than dollar Yeah, yes,
and how how that's going to be utilized because nobody
knows what n c double A because there's such a
closed book they and you don't know what they're what
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they're doing, and they've been so inept and governing and
managing so many other things. So my suspect or, I
would suspect that them handling money is probably not their
greatest strength either. Yeah, I just don't know that it
would be their strength that, that's for certain, all Right.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I do want to switch gears though.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Okay, and this is the beauty about the podcast side, right,
we're going to skip the commercial today. We're just going straight.
We're just going to keep going, all right, No no
clock on this Strafalco exactly. But here's something that we
typically don't talk a whole lot of baseball.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
You're right, we don't.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
And there's part of it is because in this area,
I know there's baseball fans, don't get me wrong, and
I do really like baseball, but I've moved away from
it just because of the pace of the game.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I don't know the players as much.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I don't you know, spend as much time, and I
don't have a team.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I think that's part of it too.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
That's huge.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah, that can be part of it. But come playoff time,
it's a different story. I'll be much more engaged. And
especially when you're getting into divisional rounds and then into
the World Series, you know, all of those type of
things I get, I guess, more energized about the game,
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and especially when you're getting into you know, when it's
one and done right, you know, where it's game seven
or you know it's that type of scenario where somebody's
going home right this game, you know, and I do
get more energized about that.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
It's funny you say that because I can't help but
see the parallel between that and just a baseball game
in general. Baseball games like they're fun, but the excitement
doesn't happen till eighth or ninth inning.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Everything's on the line. The same thing with the season.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
That's a great analogy, that is so true. I haven't
thought of it that way. Yeah, and I'm definitely a guy.
I want there to be excitement with baseball. I want
I want there to be runs. I want to have
that ability to see some home run, see some hits,
you know, action out there, and baseball purists they won
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a scoreless game that you know, goes into extra innings
and it's a pitcher's duel and I'm just not into that.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I want some more of the action.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
But I bring baseball up because next week is Major
League Baseball all Star Game, oh yes, in Atlanta, and
Major League Baseball All Star Game has definitely lost its
luster in my opinion over over the years. But this
year is going to be a little bit different. And
the reason I say that is because we know that
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technology has becoming is becoming a major part of sports now,
from the training aspect to you know, uh to TV technology,
you know, camera technology, all of those things that we're
starting to see. You got a clock on the pictures now, yes, exactly, yeah,
and we see Wimbledon's going on right now. We've got
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it on in the studio right now. And the technology
that they have for understanding was the ball in bouncer.
It's amazing the hawk eye vision that they have. And
now we know the NFL they're starting to utilize technology
and especially will it one day replace the old chain
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gang as far as being able to measure first downs
and we know that they've been testing that and behind
the scenes, behind the scenes, which I love.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
That's that's so NFL.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
It is behind the scenes, yes, because they're not their
roll anything out there just nearly willy No, no, no, no,
They're they're It might seem that way at times, but
I promise you they have in the background. They've been
doing their research because they know that the damage that
could be done if they try to roll something out
there that's not ready right, And again, sometimes you just
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have to put it out there. And that's the reality
of it. And that's where I'm wondering now with Major
League Baseball because in this All Star Game, they're using
robotic umpires.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Really.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yes, yes, So Major League Baseball will be testing its
automated balls and Strikes challenge system during the All Star
Game next week. So each team will have two challenges
which can only be triggered by the pitcher, catcher, or batter,
and if successful, the team retains its challenge. So balls
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and strikes are going to be called by robots. Yeah,
And that's why this challenge system is in place. They're
using it in minor leagues right now, and so this
is a big step forward for Major League Baseball to
see what it's going to be like.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
So this is the first time fans on.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
A widespread opportunity get to see this type of system. Now,
the umpires are not automatically removed, yeah, and they're still
going to be umps out there, but they're using robotic
umps in the All Star Game next week down in Atlanta,
And part of me, I'm excited about this, Yeah, because
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I want to see We've been talking about this for
quite a while, this type of technology, and we keep
going back to Wimbledon and Tennis and the technology that
they've been able to use, and so why are we
not using this type of technology again, not saying it's
going to be perfect or anything of that nature. And
(25:42):
I know Tim Kirkchin of ESPN, he's come out and
has said that Major League Baseball players are reticent about
this because they just don't trust the system. The electronic
system as of yet be able to understand the strike zone.
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And even though the human umpires, you could question do
they understand the strike zone right? But there is something about, hey,
there's a human element to it. So I get the
quandary there that sports is not perfect, some of the
calls are not going to be made right, and you
(26:24):
know there is some subjectivity in all of sports, especially
with officials. Yeah, from basketball, from football, I mean cause
how many times you could be called for holding almost
every single play?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean you.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Could call a foul in basketball almost every single trip
down the court. You know that type of thing. So
there's something to be said about that. But here, I
mean a strike zone. You can measure it out. This
is the strike zone. That's it, right, and move forward.
And that's where technology can be your friend here, yes,
because I don't know if there's much subjectivity and balls
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and strikes.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Here's your strike zone. And if it's out of there,
it's a ball.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
If it's in there, it's it's a strike, just like
a foul ball. Hey, exactly, that's a fair ball or
that's a foul ball. It's pretty pretty straightforward. How much
do you know about bowling a fair amount? You know
how they how they tell if you get a strike
or not. Have you ever sat there and looked at
the technology? Oh no, I've seen it. Okay, it's exactly.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I don't know why now that you're mentioning this, I
don't know why they've never done this sooner with baseball.
So all it is is there's a camera and when
the ball crosses the line there at the end, it
takes a picture and it's just positive negative, and it
has little pinpoints on the pins. And if it's white,
there's a pin sitting there. If it's black, there's not
a pin sitting there. You get a point, you get
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a camera, you take a snapshot, snapshot.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
When the ball goes over, you put you draw a
square around it.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
If there's white inside the square, boom, it's a strike.
If white is outside of the square, it's a ball.
Oh that I don't know why they didn't do that earlier.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah, well this is so much s This is their
version of it right here, is that they'll have that
strike zone and fans on TV we'll be able to
see that square that you're talking about, that strike zone.
So why are we not using it? Let's go ahead, yes,
and move forward with Major League Baseball. And this is
the first opportunity at the All Star Game.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
So here we go.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
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It's a beautiful day, just in the estate. We love
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It's still hot, though, my gosh, it's still hot.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
I feel like a couple of weeks ago was really hot.
Really so at least I'm like that primed me. I'm
like that could be.
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Worse, that's right, Yes, it could definitely be worse, and
so I do have to make sure that you look
at each day. It's a blessing, right and what are
you going to do with it? You know, all of
those cliches that you can say and just enjoy that
we do have this type of weather. So I am
appreciative of that. I just don't know if I need
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when you just standing there, even in the shade, and
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let me make sure I'm phrasing this correctly. That yes,
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we know we're regionally based, locally based here in Greenville,
South Carolina, but doesn't mean we're not going to talk
national topics. Right, it's the NFL. Oh yeah, it's the NBA,
it's sports. Yes, it's college football, all that, and we
know so much is going on just from a changing
of so many different things on a national level. So
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Extra hour podcast. We'll say exclusive hour.
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Right god is We'll say that it is because this
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or obviously live on the radio at one of four
nine Fox Sports Upstate. Okay, so I did enough of
the dirty word making sure that out of the way. Yes,
I got all of that type of content out there,
so it's easy to really start talking college football right now.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
The NFL.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I get all of that, and we're all about that,
But there's also going on right now outside of the
changing of college athletics. There's other things that are going
on in college sports which leave me scratching my head
and trying to understand why are we trying to just
(04:55):
change for the sake of change? Right, And I'm referring
to college basketball. You know, love me some college basketball,
you yes, yeah me.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
What but the thought that.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
There's growing support through the nc DOUBLEA and some university presidents,
et cetera, that the NCAA tournament March Madness their cash cow,
remember that, oh, their cash cow. That there should be
expansion from sixty eight to seventy two or possibly seventy
(05:34):
six teams, and it could be as early as twenty
twenty six. Yes, And so I'm looking at it from
a perspective of not so much that, oh my gosh,
do not change.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
The NCAA tournament. It's perfect, right.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
There's really nothing perfect. There's so many things that you
could I shouldn't say so many, but there's several flaws
within the NCAA tournament and a lot of it just
has to do with selection committee and how the teams
get in and the seeding, you know, all of that
and so, but from an inherent standpoint as far as
being able to crown your champion, I know some people say, oh, well,
(06:16):
you know it's one and done. So you have these upsets,
and so do you always have the best team, right
that makes it to the championship game and wins the
National Championship. And I still contend do we have that
in any sports? That, right, the best team during the
regular season always wins a championship, a Super Bowl or
(06:40):
you know, a Stanley Cup Final, or a Larry O'Brien trophy,
you know, or a World Series trophy.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
That doesn't happen.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
No, and this whole idea of the best team is
subjective anyways, it depends on the night, no doubt, each
night there's a different best team. Like like you look
at out of the season of a hole. Sure you
could look at like and go okay with the Eagles
because obviously they won the Super Bowl. Well yeah, that's
because they continued night after night to be the best team.
But if they had lost to the Commanders, they wouldn't
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be the best.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Team, right exactly. That's literally how it works.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
That's how it works, and that's why, Yes, this whole
idea that, oh, you you've got to be able.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
To crown the best team, and so we've.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Got to devise away to give everybody a shot that opportunity.
And I'm just not under that belief and so again
I felt sixty four teams, that was it. Yeah, it
all fits on one cable.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yes, in terms of you got your brackets, it's easy.
You know, you've got you know your four quadrants of
sixteen teams and you run with it. And if we
can't pick sixty four teams out of the three hundred
plus teams in college basketball that legitimately have a shot
to win a national championship, there were in trouble if
we have to go to seventy two or seventy six,
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and even going to see I was never a big
fan of going to sixty eight. But I'm not going
to sit here and try to die on that hill that.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
No, do not expand.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
And if the NCAA tournament expands, it expands, and I'm
going to love it. In terms of the tournament itself,
I'm still going to enjoy it. And I know they're
from a marketing standpoint, it does give you some extra games,
and do you have that opportunity of playing a few
days before like we do with the first four. Maybe
now it's going to be called the first eight whatever
(08:29):
it might be from a marketing standpoint, and I get it.
There's also this thought money is involved. So there's an
aspect of trying to increase your leverage from a media
rights deal saying we've got more teams, that means more games,
that means more content live sports, because we know the
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one thing that people will still set an appointment for to.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Watch, that's live sports.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Oh yeah, because there's appointment TV is done outside of
sports and news. Your local news are Fox News or
you know, CNN, something of that nature, but outside of that,
it's either DVR you're streaming it.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
I do have to wonder, and this ties back into
what we talked about yesterday, and that is the fact
and it's a little bit different, but we talked about
that Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Is it football?
Speaker 5 (09:27):
And I wonder if you go and expand and you
have eight teams playing to get in, you talk about
appointment viewing depending on the teams that are trying to
play to get in, will it really be appointment viewing?
Will people care enough to watch? And I mean what
I mean by that.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Is is the juice worth the squeeze?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Is it's worth ass adding for more games because oh,
we can get more money out of it, But if
people aren't watching it, how are you going to get money.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Out of it?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
If it becomes too diluted, right, then you're going to
be in that situation where people are going to be
turned off by it and wanting to I shouldn't say
move away, but not have the same type of gusto
luster because again, when it comes Thursday March Madness, that
first tip off at a few minutes afterwards noon, I
(10:13):
mean I am glued, I amctly ready to go, and
it does take away if you have all of these
other games before that first Thursday, right, Well, and you're
the basketball guy, how many how much of that do
you watch?
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Those kind of play in like first four, now, maybe
first eight.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I'm sure you watch it, but how invested are Okay?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I would have to say, I'm probably not a good
person to ask.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Oh, okay, because you just watch them all. I'm a
former coach.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Oh that's fair, And so there's times I watch it
from a different lens. But also I remember growing up,
if basketball was on, I was watching.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
It, right, it didn't matter what team.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
And that's what my wife was like, you don't even
know these teams, and I was like, yeah, but it
is college basketball.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Right, Yeah, to play exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I want to I want to see maybe you might
see some greatness, whatever it is. But your point is
very well taken. Casual fans, they're not watching it, right
And and I'm not saying that those first four games
that I'm watching every single minute exactly so, but I'm
definitely interested right to watch it. Life gets in the
(11:22):
way at times. But back in the day, though, I
mean I would almost change my schedule to make sure
I was watching March Madness. Yeah, you know, now the
first four I know it's part of March Madness, right,
but I'm not going out of my way to change
my schedule if there's a conflict. So to your point that, yeah,
(11:46):
maybe there's always some people that are not even that
interested in the first four.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, and you want to expand past.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Past that, yes, and so where I'm also going with
all this So take all of those scenarios a factors
as far as why are we even looking at expanding right?
But even more so, and this is what we talked
about yesterday also with Darren Is and I wanted to
hone on this a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Why are we.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Trying to focus on changing some things that for right now,
it's working, but what we do know we have bigger
issues out there. And when I say issues, I'm saying
all of the changes that are going on with college
athletics right now and the house settlement, nil right transfer portal,
(12:43):
and this fragmentation of the conferences right now where nobody's understanding,
you know, what they want in the future as far
as a college football playoff, and again talking about expansion there.
I'm okay with expanding, but don't you need to get
your house in order first before you start changing the
(13:04):
dishes and you know, start changing things from your kitchen
or start remodeling things inside your house when you don't
even have the foundation built.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Good point.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I mean, we've got to get to the point where
we're looking at opportunities of solidifying the foundation right college athletics,
and I think there's some I wouldn't say easy solutions,
but I think there's some logical solutions that will take
some work. But we're too worried about trying to figure
(13:37):
out if we need more teams and then caa tournament.
And I don't understand why we're losing so much focus
other than is it just human nature? Also that when
we see something that might be difficult. We just procrastinate
well and just focus on something else. Oh well, yeah,
(13:59):
I don't know if we can solve that, but yeah,
we can fix this.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
We can fix this. Ye, we'll get a sense.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Of a conference roofs caving in. But I can patch
this leaky pipe. You know it works. I also wonder too,
who views it as broken to the point of, you know,
you and I are talking about, Hey, this is structurally
there are issues here just as a whole in college athletics.
But do the powers that be, the ones that would
(14:24):
make that decision, do they even see it as needing fixing?
And that could be the core root of the problem.
They're looking at it and going, no, like it looks
fine to me. Everything's working, and you know, we really
like how the conferences are going.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
And until.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Conferences coaches, you know, people that really matter outside of
a fan base, start going and making a ruckus and
going hey guys, and they are, but you need more,
you need a full on like everybody.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Has to be on the same page.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
And until that happens, I don't know the NCAA really
views it as as broken or they're looking at it
and going, yeah, I mean maybe, but like.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
This tournament over here, let's let's fix that. Let's fix
a focus on that.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, And that's what I don't understand is that we're
losing focus on losing sight on what really matters. And
you know, from a perspective of all right again, it's
not so much that it's broken, but okay, but how
can we try to increase revenue? So is that driving everything?
(15:30):
That it's all about the revenue? And yes, we can
look at it from that age old cliche that if
you have a question about something and the motivation behind it,
you can pretty much say it's money. No, that's the answer. Well, yeah,
that's the answer. And so I know there's Rob Dauster
(15:52):
does a great job with fiel to sixty eight College
Basketball podcast and College Basketball Media Network, and he posted
a poll and basically just said do you want NC
doublea tournament expansion?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yes or no?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
And so there's obviously the audience that Rob Dawster is questioning.
It's college basketball fans, because everybody's if they're if he's
sending out a question, he's sending it out to college
basketball fans, right, And I think that's a good start
as far as this good litmus test. It's a good
(16:31):
litmus test as far as a right do the fans
really want it right? Because how many times do the
fans ever really get any say into it?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yeah, very rarely.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And I'm not saying that the NC double A is
going to listen to what, you know, fans say on
a social media post or you know whatever. But I
think there's at least a good indication that when you
have almost seven thousand votes and ninety four percent of
the responders say no, ninety four percent quite a lot.
(17:08):
That's quite a lot. And I know Matt Norlander, CBS Sports,
who we've had on the show before, he responded to
the post and said, you might not get ninety four
percent that say.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
The sky is blue?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Right?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I mean, so I mean to get ninety four percent, No,
that's pretty clear indicator.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
It's basically unanimous, yes.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Exactly, that college basketball fans are saying, no, what are
we doing? We don't need we don't need this expansion.
It's working the way it is. We're not trying to
say that it's perfect, right, but you don't have to
tinker with this. If you want to change some other things,
look at the bigger picture, look at the other side
of things that are happening right now. So it's going
(17:54):
to be interesting to see how this plays out in
terms of what the NCAA will do. Because Charlie Baker
and the president of the n CUBA, he's already come
out and said, oh, we've got serious momentum that it's
going to be seventy two or seventy six.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
So I think this is going to happen. Yeah, I
really do.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Because once it gets to that point where it's publicly
talked about.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, they've already had conversations. It's been going on.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Yeah, they've had these conversations going on for years.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, it's just now that it's full steam ahead basically.
And and you know, because he wouldn't also come out
and say those type of statements without also having a
real good idea of what might potentially happen in terms
of media right steals right and would a CBS would
(18:47):
TNT with TBS, you know, true TV? Are they going
to be willing to say, Okay, yes we can look
at redoing the contract. If you expand then yeah there's
more content, So maybe there's more media rights opportunities in
terms of.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Dollars and I get it.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
There's also does that potentially help then for college athletics,
the non revenue generating sports Olympic sports. So does that
give an opportunity for more money that could be coming
into the NCAA that could be filtered down? But as
of right now that that doesn't seem to be the
driving force.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Not that's not what we're hearing.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
We're just hearing, Oh, we want to expand yeah, we're
gonna do this, yeah, exactly. So I think there's also
if it was positioned and if this was really true,
that it would be an opportunity to earn more dollars
that could help other sports in college athletics because of
all of the changes going on right now. Okay, then
(19:49):
maybe some fans might be a little bit Okay, I
see the bigger picture, right and there's a purpose there.
It might be something behind it, but as of right now,
there's there's nothing bet it really or other than dollar Yeah, yes,
and how how that's going to be utilized because nobody
knows what n c double A because there's such a
closed book they and you don't know what they're what
(20:13):
they're doing, and they've been so inept and governing and
managing so many other things. So my suspect or, I
would suspect that them handling money is probably not their
greatest strength either. Yeah, I just don't know that it
would be their strength that, that's for certain, all Right.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I do want to switch gears though.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Okay, and this is the beauty about the podcast side, right,
we're going to skip the commercial today. We're just going straight.
We're just going to keep going, all right, No no
clock on this Strafalco exactly. But here's something that we
typically don't talk a whole lot of baseball.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
You're right, we don't.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
And there's part of it is because in this area,
I know there's baseball fans, don't get me wrong, and
I do really like baseball, but I've moved away from
it just because of the pace of the game.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I don't know the players as much.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I don't you know, spend as much time, and I
don't have a team.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I think that's part of it too.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
That's huge.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah, that can be part of it. But come playoff time,
it's a different story. I'll be much more engaged. And
especially when you're getting into divisional rounds and then into
the World Series, you know, all of those type of
things I get, I guess, more energized about the game,
(21:34):
and especially when you're getting into you know, when it's
one and done right, you know, where it's game seven
or you know it's that type of scenario where somebody's
going home right this game, you know, and I do
get more energized about that.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
It's funny you say that because I can't help but
see the parallel between that and just a baseball game
in general. Baseball games like they're fun, but the excitement
doesn't happen till eighth or ninth inning.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Everything's on the line. The same thing with the season.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
That's a great analogy, that is so true. I haven't
thought of it that way. Yeah, and I'm definitely a guy.
I want there to be excitement with baseball. I want
I want there to be runs. I want to have
that ability to see some home run, see some hits,
you know, action out there, and baseball purists they won
(22:25):
a scoreless game that you know, goes into extra innings
and it's a pitcher's duel and I'm just not into that.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I want some more of the action.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
But I bring baseball up because next week is Major
League Baseball all Star Game, oh yes, in Atlanta, and
Major League Baseball All Star Game has definitely lost its
luster in my opinion over over the years. But this
year is going to be a little bit different. And
the reason I say that is because we know that
(22:54):
technology has becoming is becoming a major part of sports now,
from the training aspect to you know, uh to TV technology,
you know, camera technology, all of those things that we're
starting to see. You got a clock on the pictures now, yes, exactly, yeah,
and we see Wimbledon's going on right now. We've got
(23:15):
it on in the studio right now. And the technology
that they have for understanding was the ball in bouncer.
It's amazing the hawk eye vision that they have. And
now we know the NFL they're starting to utilize technology
and especially will it one day replace the old chain
(23:37):
gang as far as being able to measure first downs
and we know that they've been testing that and behind
the scenes, behind the scenes, which I love.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
That's that's so NFL.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
It is behind the scenes, yes, because they're not their
roll anything out there just nearly willy No, no, no, no,
They're they're It might seem that way at times, but
I promise you they have in the background. They've been
doing their research because they know that the damage that
could be done if they try to roll something out
there that's not ready right, And again, sometimes you just
(24:08):
have to put it out there. And that's the reality
of it. And that's where I'm wondering now with Major
League Baseball because in this All Star Game, they're using
robotic umpires.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Really.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yes, yes, So Major League Baseball will be testing its
automated balls and Strikes challenge system during the All Star
Game next week. So each team will have two challenges
which can only be triggered by the pitcher, catcher, or batter,
and if successful, the team retains its challenge. So balls
(24:42):
and strikes are going to be called by robots. Yeah,
And that's why this challenge system is in place. They're
using it in minor leagues right now, and so this
is a big step forward for Major League Baseball to
see what it's going to be like.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
So this is the first time fans on.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
A widespread opportunity get to see this type of system. Now,
the umpires are not automatically removed, yeah, and they're still
going to be umps out there, but they're using robotic
umps in the All Star Game next week down in Atlanta,
And part of me, I'm excited about this, Yeah, because
(25:22):
I want to see We've been talking about this for
quite a while, this type of technology, and we keep
going back to Wimbledon and Tennis and the technology that
they've been able to use, and so why are we
not using this type of technology again, not saying it's
going to be perfect or anything of that nature. And
(25:42):
I know Tim Kirkchin of ESPN, he's come out and
has said that Major League Baseball players are reticent about
this because they just don't trust the system. The electronic
system as of yet be able to understand the strike zone.
(26:02):
And even though the human umpires, you could question do
they understand the strike zone right? But there is something about, hey,
there's a human element to it. So I get the
quandary there that sports is not perfect, some of the
calls are not going to be made right, and you
(26:24):
know there is some subjectivity in all of sports, especially
with officials. Yeah, from basketball, from football, I mean cause
how many times you could be called for holding almost
every single play?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean you.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Could call a foul in basketball almost every single trip
down the court. You know that type of thing. So
there's something to be said about that. But here, I
mean a strike zone. You can measure it out. This
is the strike zone. That's it, right, and move forward.
And that's where technology can be your friend here, yes,
because I don't know if there's much subjectivity and balls
(27:02):
and strikes.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Here's your strike zone. And if it's out of there,
it's a ball.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
If it's in there, it's it's a strike, just like
a foul ball. Hey, exactly, that's a fair ball or
that's a foul ball. It's pretty pretty straightforward. How much
do you know about bowling a fair amount? You know
how they how they tell if you get a strike
or not. Have you ever sat there and looked at
the technology? Oh no, I've seen it. Okay, it's exactly.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I don't know why now that you're mentioning this, I
don't know why they've never done this sooner with baseball.
So all it is is there's a camera and when
the ball crosses the line there at the end, it
takes a picture and it's just positive negative, and it
has little pinpoints on the pins. And if it's white,
there's a pin sitting there. If it's black, there's not
a pin sitting there. You get a point, you get
(27:48):
a camera, you take a snapshot, snapshot.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
When the ball goes over, you put you draw a
square around it.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
If there's white inside the square, boom, it's a strike.
If white is outside of the square, it's a ball.
Oh that I don't know why they didn't do that earlier.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah, well this is so much s This is their
version of it right here, is that they'll have that
strike zone and fans on TV we'll be able to
see that square that you're talking about, that strike zone.
So why are we not using it? Let's go ahead, yes,
and move forward with Major League Baseball. And this is
the first opportunity at the All Star Game.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
So here we go.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Right, Technology evolving, we love evolving. We talk about that
quite a bit. Hey, we will honor traditions and history
here on the Richmond we were Show presented by Ingles Markets,
because there's nothing wrong with evolving through the course of history.
All right, we'll continue our two of the Richmond Weaver
Show presented by Ingles Markets right after this
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