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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Exploring the latest headlines and in depth conversations. It's the
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Ready to roll this Thursday, right here on the Richmond
Weaver Show presented by Ingles Markets. Mister Trey Falco behind
the board and behind the mic as always joining me
here in the Ingles studio as we are ramping up,
getting close to another weekend. And here here in July,
because now we're in double digits in the month of July,
quick July tenth, here we are. So it is moving fast.
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And remember next Monday, July fourteenth, SEC Football Media Days
will kick off and yes, Shane Beamer will take the
podium at eleven forty five. We will be there in attendance,
getting ready to really start understanding not only only with
the game Cocks, but their position.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Is how Shane.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Beemer's feeling right now in terms of getting ready for
the upcome and season, the expectations everything. And we know
last year you can look at Leonora Sellers and say, okay,
yes they got their guy at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
All of that needs to stay healthy, right, and then.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You also have to remember that twenty twenty four defense
was pretty special for South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
They were actually very good.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So expecting the twenty twenty five defense to be the same.
You know, with losing the personnel that they did, seven starters,
five NFL draft picks, that's a lot of pressure a
little bit, Yeah, that's a lot of pressure on the defense,
but they do have still talent there, right, it's just
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a matter of being able to take that next step
because not only did you have those seven starters and
five NFL draft picks like we talked about, but also
they were key leaders on the team on that side
of the ball, and not just defensive leaders, yes we
can say that, but overall team leaders and how impactful
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that is. When you have those type of veteran type
of guys, those type of guys who have that bravado
when they walk in the locker room, everybody's like, okay, yeah,
there we go, Yes, their locker room exactly, it's their
locker room.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
That's a special feeling, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And so when you lose those type of guys, who's
going to be the guy that they passed the baton
to pass the torch to right, and then they're going
to run with it on the defensive side, because I
would imagine it's easy to pinpoint. On the offensive side,
it's going to be the Lamara Sellers without a toubt, right,
I mean, it's going to be him, And I'm anxious
to see even from a wide receiver standpoint for South Carolina,
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like a Nick Harber's he's going to be able to
step up. I mean, he is an all time athlete,
a Greek god for sequise, you know all of that,
and just with his background, he's a speedster. But can
he make that transformative leap, so to speak, taking all
of that athleticism that he has from a running perspective
on the track and field side and then being able
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to utilize that on the football side in between those dashes,
so to speak, right and be able to be a
big time target for Leonora's Sellers. And then obviously there's
also everything going on with the running back room with
South Carolina with Faison. They don't know if he's going
to be eligible by the NCAA, you know all of that,
So there's a lot of intrigue still to be determined,
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but hopefully they'll have answers to a lot of that,
especially the running back room next week at SECBD Day.
So I'm looking forward to that, and we'll be broadcasting
from down there now. I did find out though that
it might have to be a little bit of a
makeshift broadcast.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
That's fine, exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Our first it's they're technically if you want to broadcast
from quote unquote radio row is what we you know,
would typically.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Call it that.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Now some of these conferences at media Day, they're charging
a fee to be able to broadcast. Yes, and I
will we go yes, Sece. It just means more right, right,
that's right, the propaganda. But I get it, they do
there there. There's so much that's involved in being able
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to do that. And now you've got the national spotlight
on so many of these teams now and they can
only uh be able to accommodate so many broadcasts because
everybody would love to broadcast from down there, yes, and
they just can't open it up to everybody. So I
do understand, you know, the rationale from that standpoint. But
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so we'll keep everybody updated, especially we'll find out Monday,
because when I get down there, that's what I'm going
to find out exactly where we're going to be able
to broadcast.
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Speaker 2 (07:47):
One thing that I did want to talk about here
is we mentioned it the expectations for South Carolina because
I had an interesting conversation with a South Carolina fan
earlier this morning and we were talking about expectations and
again remembering that now the target is going to be
on South Carolina's back, I don't care what anybody says,
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and there is an opportunity to start the season with
a bang.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
You're playing Virginia Tech.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Right neutral side all of that, so you have that
hype going into that type of game, so you need
to come out and you need to showcase. Okay, this
is a different South Carolina so y than what we've
seen in the past. And it was interesting because I
get it as a South Carolina fan because I remember
as a Clemson fan before Clemson was able to really
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kind of turn the corner. Yeah, get over that proverbial hump,
so to speak, and win an ACC championship and then
continue to win and then ultimately get to the college
football playoff, right, lose to Alabama unfortunately in the national
Championship game. But the next year come back and rinse
and repeat. But this time you beat Alabama in the
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national championship game. Before that, though, I mean, there was
always the term we heard clemsoning.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yes. It was a big thing. I grew up hearing
that yes.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
And so you go through so many years of that
and you get conditioned, you get programmed, and that's how
we are as human beings.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
It's like, well, when's it going to happen?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Right here? It comes here, it comes yeah. And So
talking with the Gamecock fan today, and he's a Gamecock grad,
great guy, but he had.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
This just this feeling like and it was like a fog.
It was a cloud like clouds a cloud, a black cloud.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
It was also just the body language everything just yeah.
But I'm just you know, I don't know, there's you know,
there's gonna be something that happens. I'm like, yeah, I
don't know, man, And he's like, yeah, I know, we're
getting good. You know, our culture is getting better. Shane
Beamer seems to be the guy. We've got Leonora Sellers,
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you know all of that. I'm like, yeah, exactly, let's go,
let's speak it into existence. Is it's positive time, it's
you're you're there. You just you just need to be
able to win some of those key games. And you know,
he looks back, well, look at the LSU game last year.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
You know, if Lenora Sellers doesn't get hurt, I mean,
we're winning that game.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
And you know, you have a penalty that's called shouldn't
have been, a penalty that you know, takes away a
pick six. You know, all of those things. That's what
I think a lot of South Carolina fans are feeling. Yeah,
they still feel all right, well, we won't believe it
until we believe it because we see it right and
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it happens, and we don't have those type of things.
We don't have, you know, a devastating injury, we don't
have a loss where we should have won, where we
don't have that clemsoning happening to us, then we'll start
believing it.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Well, and that too, that comes from.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I'm trying to think how to put this, because there's
two sides of that, right, there's the side where it
feels like.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Everything is always going wrong.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Oh well, you know, if it's a misspenalty or if
a penalty was called or whatever it is. But then
on the flip side, you've got the people like think
of the Kansas City chiefs and their fans, Oh that call,
that's fine. You have the complete opposite where things seem
to be going Kansas City's way. And it depends on
your mindset and where you're looking at it, because on
a neutral site, I don't know that it really you're
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fixating on the wrong thing.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
You're fixating on what's going on instead of like the
actual winning and losing. And you're going, oh, well, if
it was, if it was, if we hadn't got that penalty,
Whereas Kansas City can go and say, well, now that
penalty look fine to me.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
It's two sides of the same point.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
It was just a call, of course, but it doesn't
come down to the call typically. Now, sometimes there are
and it's very very rare that there's a call that
like decides a game, right, But what comes down to
just okay, well, why didn't you guys play great in
the first half?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
That's right? Why don't you guys do this? Yes? Why didn't?
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Oh well, yeah, well the more's selars went down. Okay,
but like that happens, that's that's sports, that's the quarterbacks
go down all the time, players go down all the time.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, could you have protected in better on two of
those places where he got sacked and lost fifteen yards?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Exactly?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Could somebody have been more open so that he could
he didn't have to run around whatever it might be.
And so that naturally, I think, shifts when the team
starts winning more. You see that kind of that mentality
shift more into.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
What do you mean that call is fine? That call
is okay?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Like we're not we're not getting a whole lot of
calls on us, But everybody else sees it that way
because oh well, yeah, you guys.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Just winning all the time. It's a weird mindset that
humans do to justify why they're winning or losing. Justification.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, yeah, it's and rationalize certain things however it might be,
however you want to describe it. And it is so true,
and we see it with so many different fan bases,
and I get it, and that's where it's your fan.
That's right, when you're used to not winning. I totally
understand it. I was in that boat. I'm telling you.
It was the same thing that I remember as a
Clemson fan. Consistently each season, there were three or four
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pass interference calls, right, and I'm like, that was not
pass interference, And of course it didn't really decide the game,
but it allowed a big touchdown, allowed.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
A big play.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
It was a huge third down you needed to stop
and you know it's third and twenty seven. Yeah yeah,
we get called for past interference as an automatic first down.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, you know, and you're like, you got it, and
it all.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It almost seemed that the flag came after the teams
were like running off the field.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Like there's a Steers fan. It's like, what there's a flag. Yeah,
and they're like, oh, yeah, we got pass interference.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I'm like, we're getting They're getting ready to punt, and
now you're calling the past interference.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Well, and like, what I would say is, say you
weren't a Clemson fan, say you weren't a South Carolina fan,
would you view that game differently, that penalty differently if
you didn't have any skin in the game.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
If you're just a purest like I think about.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
You when you talk about what we talked about it yesterday,
when you just you like basketball so much, even those
kind of playing games for the march madness, you don't
really have any skin in the game in any of
those teams. Now you're not pulling for any of them. No,
you can look at the penalties and the fouls more.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Objectively, no question. Yes, fans can't. No, they can't. They can't.
I'd first tell you I cannot. There's sometimes I look
at the Steelers game, I'm like, oh, oh, Joey Porter,
he wasn't holding That's right. Yeah, it is very difficult.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And so I did even expand on this in terms
of the expectations and what's realistic for South Carolina fans
this year. And I'm using South Carolina as the example
one because we are a South Carolina affiliate on Fox
Sports Upstate. So we are the upstate affiliate for game
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Cock Sports Network, So there is that. And also I
am really intrigued about what South Carolina can do. It's
hard not to be, I really am, because I think
it's so beneficial that South Carolina is good for the
state of South Carolina. And I as a Clemson fan,
I know I still might be in the minority here
that I want South Carolina to be really good. So
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when we play that rivalry game, it is really a
good game. That it's two opponents that don't like each
other but are evenly matched and you never know, might
be not only fighting for state bragging rights, right, but
something from a national perspective, a national narrative. Now exactly,
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that's what's and that's what you see a lot of
times Ohio State and Michigan, YEP, Alabama and Auburn. A
lot of times they're much more fighting for They're more
so not just fighting for bragging rights or in their
state within their respective rivalry, but also how it's going
to impact the national landscape. Right, And that's why can
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you imagine Clemson in South Carolina having that opportunity at
the end of the year, Ye and that's what I
would love, and so that's why I'm a little bit
more laser focused on South Carolina, and I do believe
it's a program that's up and coming. So you have
all of that, and I'm wanting to see that transfer,
that mindset transfer that you're talking about, Trey, because I
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want to see it from some of the fans because
I've experienced it as a Clemson fan, so I want
to see some of these other South Carolina fans do that.
But I still come back to one of the things
that I feel I'm in the minority, and I'm being
long winded here about it and getting to it, but
that mindset of oh, if only we do one thing
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each year as a team.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Is beat our rival.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
So there's Clemson fans that say, I don't care what
we do, we just better beat South Carolina, and they're
South Carolina fans that say the same thing. I don't
care what we do, we just better beat Clemson. And
that's why I even asked Michael my buddy this morning.
South carol line of fan, Hey, so would you take
nine to three but you lose to Clemson, but you
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somehow sneak in to the college football playoff as a
twelve seed. So the probability of you winning a national
championship is very slim because you're the last one basically
to get in.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
But would you take that?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
And he paused for a second, and then he said, now,
because we're so close, I think for us, we need
to be able to get into the college football playoffs.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
So I would take a loss to Clemson. I wouldn't like.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
It, but I would take it. And I'm thinking this
should be a no brainer. You should not even think
one second about this. If you're right now, you sign
me up. I promise you. You sign me up if
you tell me Clemson go nine to three this year,
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lose to South Carolina, but make the college football playoff,
right you take it? Yep, I'll take it right now.
I'll take it right now. Get me to the playoffs. Yeah,
that's all. That's all we need to do, because even
as a long shot, you never know what can happen,
because you don't know what might happen in games that
you're not involved with.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
As far as right could there be another upset exactly?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
You never know.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
So take it.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Get to the playoffs. That's it. There's no discussion there's
no debating this.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
There's no question playoff bound every single time right now. Yes,
as a Dallas Cowboys fan or you as a Pittsburgh
Steelers fan in the NFL, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
About the NFC East. Just get me to the playoffs,
thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
And this I want to pause on that mindset for
a second that I don't care what happens in the
regular season. As long as we do X like, as
long as we beat Clemson or beat our rival. You do,
point blank, everybody cares. That's the due always hate that
somebody comes to me, I don't care what happens.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Oh yeah, you do.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
You do, because if you've got to losing record, you're
gonna be mad, and you're gonna be mad the whole season, and.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
We're gonna have to hear about it. I know you
do care.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Us human beings been we are so crazy, aren't we, Yes,
seriously we are. But we're off the rails at times.
Y But I agree with you, Yes, I dude, will
I like it?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
No?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
But Baltimore and Cleveland beat the snot out of me
all season and then I still made the playoffs and
win in and got a chance to make a run
at the super Bowl, and maybe they didn't.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
That's right. Why do I care? Why do you care? Yeah,
those those games stung, that's right, I'm in it, they're not.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
And the only way you can now we see it,
the only way you can win a championship, and I'm
talking national, I'm not talking about.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
A conference championship.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
But the only way you can win a national championship,
you've got to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yes, yeah, I mean so, I don't understand. It's just
step one the quandary.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yes, it's And I get it though that to have
a better shot of making the playoffs, right, you got
to win regular season games.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Of course, that's the reality, Yes, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
But if you lose some of those but still make
the playoffs, it's a it's okay.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
To My point is is that I think I would
be hard pressed that we try.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
We couldn't convince fans that, hey, if you if you're
given the opportunity of being signed up for X number
of wins, but you get to the playoffs, take that
all day long, right, don't even think twice about it.
And obviously we don't have that ability to do that
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because I think there's a lot of fans that be Okay,
I'll be good, and that'll make the regular season a
little bit easier to pill to swallow. You lose some
of those games knowing that, Okay, we're good, because when
you're going through it, when you lose.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
It's over. Yep, it's done.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
And a lot of times that's in the first quarter
of the first game of the season.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Oh, the season's over. It's done. We just gave up
a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
We're terrible to season this, yeah, exactly, And we have
to make sure to calm down, keep our expectations in check.
And also you can make some observations just not making
conclusions too early in the season. So you do have
to remember that. But that's something that I'm anxious to
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see South Carolina fans.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
What are they going.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
To think as far as expectations and being realistic about it.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
And again, the ultimate goal just get to the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
That's all you need to do. Just get to the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
And I'm telling you, I do believe that Shane Beemer
is the guy that's getting them to have that opportunity
of changing the mindset. Yeah, and getting out of that
clemsoning mindset or whatever you want to describe it as,
and being able to have that winning type of mindset
and not just worrying about the event or the outcome,
(22:20):
just like when we have Brian Kite exactly. Yes, you know,
behavior performance specialist, author of Daily Discipline newsletter, talks about
event plus response equals outcome. The only thing that you
can control is your response, and so that's the main
thing that you have to focus on. And I think
that's what Shane Beemer's trying to employ there in South Carolina.
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Down in Columbia, Willie b is going to be rocking
this year, I can promise you. And things are going
to get started on Monday down in Atlanta at the.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
SEC Media Day.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
He takes the podium, Shane Biemer, that is at eleven
forty five, and we will be there in attendance and
looking forward to that. But we're going to continue hour
two of the Richmond Weaver Show presented by Ingles Markets
right after this, and we're going to dive into rivalries
and where Clemson in South Carolina, how they stack up,
(23:13):
because the Athletic just came out with their rankings and
oh my goodness, yeah, we got some things to talk about.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Ready to roll this Thursday, right here on the Richmond
Weaver Show presented by Ingles Markets. Mister Trey Falco behind
the board and behind the mic as always joining me
here in the Ingles studio as we are ramping up,
getting close to another weekend. And here here in July,
because now we're in double digits in the month of July,
quick July tenth, here we are. So it is moving fast.
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And remember next Monday, July fourteenth, SEC Football Media Days
will kick off and yes, Shane Beamer will take the
podium at eleven forty five. We will be there in attendance,
getting ready to really start understanding not only only with
the game Cocks, but their position.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Is how Shane.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Beemer's feeling right now in terms of getting ready for
the upcome and season, the expectations everything. And we know
last year you can look at Leonora Sellers and say, okay,
yes they got their guy at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
All of that needs to stay healthy, right, and then.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You also have to remember that twenty twenty four defense
was pretty special for South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
They were actually very good.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So expecting the twenty twenty five defense to be the same.
You know, with losing the personnel that they did, seven starters,
five NFL draft picks, that's a lot of pressure a
little bit, Yeah, that's a lot of pressure on the defense,
but they do have still talent there, right, it's just
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a matter of being able to take that next step
because not only did you have those seven starters and
five NFL draft picks like we talked about, but also
they were key leaders on the team on that side
of the ball, and not just defensive leaders, yes we
can say that, but overall team leaders and how impactful
(02:14):
that is. When you have those type of veteran type
of guys, those type of guys who have that bravado
when they walk in the locker room, everybody's like, okay, yeah,
there we go, Yes, their locker room exactly, it's their
locker room.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
That's a special feeling, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And so when you lose those type of guys, who's
going to be the guy that they passed the baton
to pass the torch to right, and then they're going
to run with it on the defensive side, because I
would imagine it's easy to pinpoint. On the offensive side,
it's going to be the Lamara Sellers without a toubt, right,
I mean, it's going to be him, And I'm anxious
to see even from a wide receiver standpoint for South Carolina,
(02:51):
like a Nick Harber's he's going to be able to
step up. I mean, he is an all time athlete,
a Greek god for sequise, you know all of that,
and just with his background, he's a speedster. But can
he make that transformative leap, so to speak, taking all
of that athleticism that he has from a running perspective
on the track and field side and then being able
(03:13):
to utilize that on the football side in between those dashes,
so to speak, right and be able to be a
big time target for Leonora's Sellers. And then obviously there's
also everything going on with the running back room with
South Carolina with Faison. They don't know if he's going
to be eligible by the NCAA, you know all of that,
So there's a lot of intrigue still to be determined,
(03:35):
but hopefully they'll have answers to a lot of that,
especially the running back room next week at SECBD Day.
So I'm looking forward to that, and we'll be broadcasting
from down there now. I did find out though that
it might have to be a little bit of a
makeshift broadcast.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
That's fine, exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Our first it's they're technically if you want to broadcast
from quote unquote radio row is what we you know,
would typically.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Call it that.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Now some of these conferences at media Day, they're charging
a fee to be able to broadcast. Yes, and I
will we go yes, Sece. It just means more right, right,
that's right, the propaganda. But I get it, they do
there there. There's so much that's involved in being able
(04:27):
to do that. And now you've got the national spotlight
on so many of these teams now and they can
only uh be able to accommodate so many broadcasts because
everybody would love to broadcast from down there, yes, and
they just can't open it up to everybody. So I
do understand, you know, the rationale from that standpoint. But
(04:48):
so we'll keep everybody updated, especially we'll find out Monday,
because when I get down there, that's what I'm going
to find out exactly where we're going to be able
to broadcast.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
So make sure h you listen.
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Three pm Live on Monday will be down there in Atlanta.
But also remember we do an hour each day podcast
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Now I'm telling you the one that we prefer, the
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You can get notifications, You got your preset buttons ready
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and I don't understand the algorithms are how the technology
he works at time?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, like why is.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
It the podcast that if I'm using some podcasting platform
and I'm gonna say Apple Podcasts just because that's very,
very common. And when I go there, I mean, I've
got podcasts that I labeled that should be in my library.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Right, it's like you're most listened to or whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yes, and so why is it at times that they
don't show up or the latest episode doesn't show up,
or I listen and I come back and I can't
find it.
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It drives me crazy at times.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
One probably don't annoy you, But two is I think
there's this constant push. And it's not just podcasting. I
mean it's everywhere, social media, whatever. The algorithms, man, they
want to push new stuff to you because.
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It keeps you coming back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah know.
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It's like, oh, whoa, you really like this show? You
listen to Revision is History a lot? Yeah, check out
this show because we think you'll like it, because it'll
keep you here longer, because eventually you're probably gonna run
out of Revision History episodes. You need a new podcast.
And that's what every time, that's what it does. But
the iHeartRadio you said it is a preset, and it's there.
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in your library.
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It's it's it's there on your preset button.
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Speaker 2 (07:47):
One thing that I did want to talk about here
is we mentioned it the expectations for South Carolina because
I had an interesting conversation with a South Carolina fan
earlier this morning and we were talking about expectations and
again remembering that now the target is going to be
on South Carolina's back, I don't care what anybody says,
(08:08):
and there is an opportunity to start the season with
a bang.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
You're playing Virginia Tech.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Right neutral side all of that, so you have that
hype going into that type of game, so you need
to come out and you need to showcase. Okay, this
is a different South Carolina so y than what we've
seen in the past. And it was interesting because I
get it as a South Carolina fan because I remember
as a Clemson fan before Clemson was able to really
(08:36):
kind of turn the corner. Yeah, get over that proverbial hump,
so to speak, and win an ACC championship and then
continue to win and then ultimately get to the college
football playoff, right, lose to Alabama unfortunately in the national
Championship game. But the next year come back and rinse
and repeat. But this time you beat Alabama in the
(08:58):
national championship game. Before that, though, I mean, there was
always the term we heard clemsoning.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yes. It was a big thing. I grew up hearing
that yes.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
And so you go through so many years of that
and you get conditioned, you get programmed, and that's how
we are as human beings.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
It's like, well, when's it going to happen?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Right here? It comes here, it comes yeah. And So
talking with the Gamecock fan today, and he's a Gamecock grad,
great guy, but he had.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
This just this feeling like and it was like a fog.
It was a cloud like clouds a cloud, a black cloud.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
It was also just the body language everything just yeah.
But I'm just you know, I don't know, there's you know,
there's gonna be something that happens. I'm like, yeah, I
don't know, man, And he's like, yeah, I know, we're
getting good. You know, our culture is getting better. Shane
Beamer seems to be the guy. We've got Leonora Sellers,
(09:59):
you know all of that. I'm like, yeah, exactly, let's go,
let's speak it into existence. Is it's positive time, it's
you're you're there. You just you just need to be
able to win some of those key games. And you know,
he looks back, well, look at the LSU game last year.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
You know, if Lenora Sellers doesn't get hurt, I mean,
we're winning that game.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
And you know, you have a penalty that's called shouldn't
have been, a penalty that you know, takes away a
pick six. You know, all of those things. That's what
I think a lot of South Carolina fans are feeling. Yeah,
they still feel all right, well, we won't believe it
until we believe it because we see it right and
(10:43):
it happens, and we don't have those type of things.
We don't have, you know, a devastating injury, we don't
have a loss where we should have won, where we
don't have that clemsoning happening to us, then we'll start
believing it.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Well, and that too, that comes from.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I'm trying to think how to put this, because there's
two sides of that, right, there's the side where it
feels like.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Everything is always going wrong.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Oh well, you know, if it's a misspenalty or if
a penalty was called or whatever it is. But then
on the flip side, you've got the people like think
of the Kansas City chiefs and their fans, Oh that call,
that's fine. You have the complete opposite where things seem
to be going Kansas City's way. And it depends on
your mindset and where you're looking at it, because on
a neutral site, I don't know that it really you're
(11:34):
fixating on the wrong thing.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
You're fixating on what's going on instead of like the
actual winning and losing. And you're going, oh, well, if
it was, if it was, if we hadn't got that penalty,
Whereas Kansas City can go and say, well, now that
penalty look fine to me.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
It's two sides of the same point.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
It was just a call, of course, but it doesn't
come down to the call typically. Now, sometimes there are
and it's very very rare that there's a call that
like decides a game, right, But what comes down to
just okay, well, why didn't you guys play great in
the first half?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
That's right? Why don't you guys do this? Yes? Why didn't?
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Oh well, yeah, well the more's selars went down. Okay,
but like that happens, that's that's sports, that's the quarterbacks
go down all the time, players go down all the time.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, could you have protected in better on two of
those places where he got sacked and lost fifteen yards?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Exactly?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Could somebody have been more open so that he could
he didn't have to run around whatever it might be.
And so that naturally, I think, shifts when the team
starts winning more. You see that kind of that mentality
shift more into.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
What do you mean that call is fine? That call
is okay?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Like we're not we're not getting a whole lot of
calls on us, But everybody else sees it that way
because oh well, yeah, you guys.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Just winning all the time. It's a weird mindset that
humans do to justify why they're winning or losing. Justification.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, yeah, it's and rationalize certain things however it might be,
however you want to describe it. And it is so true,
and we see it with so many different fan bases,
and I get it, and that's where it's your fan.
That's right, when you're used to not winning. I totally
understand it. I was in that boat. I'm telling you.
It was the same thing that I remember as a
Clemson fan. Consistently each season, there were three or four
(13:12):
pass interference calls, right, and I'm like, that was not
pass interference, And of course it didn't really decide the game,
but it allowed a big touchdown, allowed.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
A big play.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
It was a huge third down you needed to stop
and you know it's third and twenty seven. Yeah yeah,
we get called for past interference as an automatic first down.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, you know, and you're like, you got it, and
it all.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It almost seemed that the flag came after the teams
were like running off the field.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Like there's a Steers fan. It's like, what there's a flag. Yeah,
and they're like, oh, yeah, we got pass interference.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I'm like, we're getting They're getting ready to punt, and
now you're calling the past interference.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Well, and like, what I would say is, say you
weren't a Clemson fan, say you weren't a South Carolina fan,
would you view that game differently, that penalty differently if
you didn't have any skin in the game.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
If you're just a purest like I think about.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
You when you talk about what we talked about it yesterday,
when you just you like basketball so much, even those
kind of playing games for the march madness, you don't
really have any skin in the game in any of
those teams. Now you're not pulling for any of them. No,
you can look at the penalties and the fouls more.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Objectively, no question. Yes, fans can't. No, they can't. They can't.
I'd first tell you I cannot. There's sometimes I look
at the Steelers game, I'm like, oh, oh, Joey Porter,
he wasn't holding That's right. Yeah, it is very difficult.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And so I did even expand on this in terms
of the expectations and what's realistic for South Carolina fans
this year. And I'm using South Carolina as the example
one because we are a South Carolina affiliate on Fox
Sports Upstate. So we are the upstate affiliate for game
(14:49):
Cock Sports Network, So there is that. And also I
am really intrigued about what South Carolina can do. It's
hard not to be, I really am, because I think
it's so beneficial that South Carolina is good for the
state of South Carolina. And I as a Clemson fan,
I know I still might be in the minority here
that I want South Carolina to be really good. So
(15:12):
when we play that rivalry game, it is really a
good game. That it's two opponents that don't like each
other but are evenly matched and you never know, might
be not only fighting for state bragging rights, right, but
something from a national perspective, a national narrative. Now exactly,
(15:34):
that's what's and that's what you see a lot of
times Ohio State and Michigan, YEP, Alabama and Auburn. A
lot of times they're much more fighting for They're more
so not just fighting for bragging rights or in their
state within their respective rivalry, but also how it's going
to impact the national landscape. Right, And that's why can
(15:56):
you imagine Clemson in South Carolina having that opportunity at
the end of the year, Ye and that's what I
would love, and so that's why I'm a little bit
more laser focused on South Carolina, and I do believe
it's a program that's up and coming. So you have
all of that, and I'm wanting to see that transfer,
that mindset transfer that you're talking about, Trey, because I
(16:17):
want to see it from some of the fans because
I've experienced it as a Clemson fan, so I want
to see some of these other South Carolina fans do that.
But I still come back to one of the things
that I feel I'm in the minority, and I'm being
long winded here about it and getting to it, but
that mindset of oh, if only we do one thing
(16:43):
each year as a team.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Is beat our rival.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
So there's Clemson fans that say, I don't care what
we do, we just better beat South Carolina, and they're
South Carolina fans that say the same thing. I don't
care what we do, we just better beat Clemson. And
that's why I even asked Michael my buddy this morning.
South carol line of fan, Hey, so would you take
nine to three but you lose to Clemson, but you
(17:10):
somehow sneak in to the college football playoff as a
twelve seed. So the probability of you winning a national
championship is very slim because you're the last one basically
to get in.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
But would you take that?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
And he paused for a second, and then he said, now,
because we're so close, I think for us, we need
to be able to get into the college football playoffs.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
So I would take a loss to Clemson. I wouldn't like.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
It, but I would take it. And I'm thinking this
should be a no brainer. You should not even think
one second about this. If you're right now, you sign
me up. I promise you. You sign me up if
you tell me Clemson go nine to three this year,
(18:03):
lose to South Carolina, but make the college football playoff,
right you take it? Yep, I'll take it right now.
I'll take it right now. Get me to the playoffs. Yeah,
that's all. That's all we need to do, because even
as a long shot, you never know what can happen,
because you don't know what might happen in games that
you're not involved with.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
As far as right could there be another upset exactly?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
You never know.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
So take it.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Get to the playoffs. That's it. There's no discussion there's
no debating this.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
There's no question playoff bound every single time right now. Yes,
as a Dallas Cowboys fan or you as a Pittsburgh
Steelers fan in the NFL, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
About the NFC East. Just get me to the playoffs,
thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
And this I want to pause on that mindset for
a second that I don't care what happens in the
regular season. As long as we do X like, as
long as we beat Clemson or beat our rival. You do,
point blank, everybody cares. That's the due always hate that
somebody comes to me, I don't care what happens.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Oh yeah, you do.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
You do, because if you've got to losing record, you're
gonna be mad, and you're gonna be mad the whole season, and.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
We're gonna have to hear about it. I know you
do care.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Us human beings been we are so crazy, aren't we, Yes,
seriously we are. But we're off the rails at times.
Y But I agree with you, Yes, I dude, will
I like it?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
No?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
But Baltimore and Cleveland beat the snot out of me
all season and then I still made the playoffs and
win in and got a chance to make a run
at the super Bowl, and maybe they didn't.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
That's right. Why do I care? Why do you care? Yeah,
those those games stung, that's right, I'm in it, they're not.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
And the only way you can now we see it,
the only way you can win a championship, and I'm
talking national, I'm not talking about.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
A conference championship.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
But the only way you can win a national championship,
you've got to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yes, yeah, I mean so, I don't understand. It's just
step one the quandary.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yes, it's And I get it though that to have
a better shot of making the playoffs, right, you got
to win regular season games.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Of course, that's the reality, Yes, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
But if you lose some of those but still make
the playoffs, it's a it's okay.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
To My point is is that I think I would
be hard pressed that we try.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
We couldn't convince fans that, hey, if you if you're
given the opportunity of being signed up for X number
of wins, but you get to the playoffs, take that
all day long, right, don't even think twice about it.
And obviously we don't have that ability to do that
(20:58):
because I think there's a lot of fans that be Okay,
I'll be good, and that'll make the regular season a
little bit easier to pill to swallow. You lose some
of those games knowing that, Okay, we're good, because when
you're going through it, when you lose.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
It's over. Yep, it's done.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
And a lot of times that's in the first quarter
of the first game of the season.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Oh, the season's over. It's done. We just gave up
a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
We're terrible to season this, yeah, exactly, And we have
to make sure to calm down, keep our expectations in check.
And also you can make some observations just not making
conclusions too early in the season. So you do have
to remember that. But that's something that I'm anxious to
(21:42):
see South Carolina fans.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
What are they going.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
To think as far as expectations and being realistic about it.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
And again, the ultimate goal just get to the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
That's all you need to do. Just get to the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
And I'm telling you, I do believe that Shane Beemer
is the guy that's getting them to have that opportunity
of changing the mindset. Yeah, and getting out of that
clemsoning mindset or whatever you want to describe it as,
and being able to have that winning type of mindset
and not just worrying about the event or the outcome,
(22:20):
just like when we have Brian Kite exactly. Yes, you know,
behavior performance specialist, author of Daily Discipline newsletter, talks about
event plus response equals outcome. The only thing that you
can control is your response, and so that's the main
thing that you have to focus on. And I think
that's what Shane Beemer's trying to employ there in South Carolina.
(22:43):
Down in Columbia, Willie b is going to be rocking
this year, I can promise you. And things are going
to get started on Monday down in Atlanta at the.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
SEC Media Day.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
He takes the podium, Shane Biemer, that is at eleven
forty five, and we will be there in attendance and
looking forward to that. But we're going to continue hour
two of the Richmond Weaver Show presented by Ingles Markets
right after this, and we're going to dive into rivalries
and where Clemson in South Carolina, how they stack up,
(23:13):
because the Athletic just came out with their rankings and
oh my goodness, yeah, we got some things to talk about.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
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