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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hour two of the Richmond Weavers Show, presented by Ingles Markets.
Rolls on right here one O four nine Fox Sports Upstate.
We are in full force, mister Trey Falco behind the
board and behind the mic, and Darren Angel from the
Weisch Law Firm joining us, as we will get back
into truth or Darren getting some of his thoughts, and

(00:23):
so we're going to jump right into it, mister Darren Angel,
as we heard some of the news and we talked
about it. Mister Anthony Richardson there with the Indianapolis Colts
was not named the starter. It was Daniel Jones has
been named the starting quarterback for their September seventh regular
season opener versus the Miami Dolphins. And we know Anthony Richardson,

(00:49):
I remember this was a surprise pick for fourth, yes,
fourth overall. People were scratching their heads and trying to understand. Okay,
Anthony Richardson. No, he's extremely athletic. Oh yeah, he's a
physical specimen that I completely understand all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
But NFL quarterback first round number four.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Overall very raw and do these teams how much are
they going to spend the time to develop some of
these quarterbacks?

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Because you know it's when.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Now, Oh, it is absolutely and especially if you're drafted
in the first round, you better be ready to play
in the first round, yep, unless you're a quarterback that
is being drafted to a team that has a veteran
type of guy. But even in those type of situations,
a guy like that, they're not drafted number four overall.

(01:43):
Now those guys are late first round. They're in second
round a little bit later again because they know they
have the opportunity to develop. All right, So truth or Darren,
mister Darren Angel, your thoughts on will Anthony Richardson be
a starting quarterback for the Indianapolis Cults this year?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Only if Daniel Jones gets injured, which I hope he doesn't.
I would never never wish anyone to get injured. Now,
I'll say this, and I don't mean to like oversimplify it,
because there's obviously a lot more that goes into it,
but I always look at quarterback prospects in one and
really to two categories. Of the first things that I

(02:27):
would want to check off accuracy and in ability to
process information quickly and how you've illustrated that during your
college days. And look I get the immense talent that
he was, the size, that athleticism, but you know, he

(02:51):
showed he wasn't really ready his first year at Florida,
like he showed flashes. But I am digressing a little bit.
I don't think think that he plays in less Daniel
Jones truly, you know, has an injury or is just
a complete catastrophe, which I don't see, because I do

(03:12):
think Daniel Jones is better than what we saw for
a lot of his time in New York, just because
that those teams were not very good and there was
just a lot of chaos going on.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Well remember also and Trey, I wanted to get your
thoughts here too. That again, I think with Indianapolis selecting
Anthony Richardson where they did, the way I viewed it
is that, hey, at some point he's supposed to be
the face in the future of the franchise.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Fourth overall, yes, yes, and now.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
And I know he's been banged up, he's had some injuries,
you know all of that, but they've also they've watched
him up close for the past two years.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
And how long have they watched Daniel Jones now a
few months?

Speaker 1 (03:57):
I mean within their facility I mean, I know, obviously
they have people on him and all of that. I
mean you have to look at it and say, if
you're an Indianapolis Colts fan, I mean it's suboptimal right now.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
That's a very nice way of funding.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
So, you know, to Darren's point on the Daniel Jones thing,
I mean, what have we really seen him do outside
of New York?

Speaker 2 (04:18):
So, I mean, I get what he did in New York.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
But and I'm not saying he's gonna come out and
be the next Baker Mayfoot or anything like that, but
maybe a little bit of a change of scenery. I
think Daniel Jones could get you wins. I'm not saying
he's gonna lead you to a playoff Berth. I'm not
gonna say he's gonna sit here and win a super Bowl.
But I think right now, where they're sitting, he is
the better quarterback in that room. And that's what you
roll with if you're the head coach, if you're the
upper organization, it doesn't matter. You want a guy that's

(04:43):
gonna get you wins. Either that or you go with
Anthony Richardson and you want to tank. But no team
in the NFL wants to tank. Yeah, so here's the
question too. You mentioned that, and because I did see
the headline that are the Colts Are they deciding to
tank so they can get arch Manning again, thinking that

(05:05):
arch Manning is going to go into the NFL draft,
we have no idea, We have no idea. And my
first thought was, well, hell, if.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
They were going to tank, put in Anthony Richardson, don't
put in Daniel Jones.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Thank you. I mean, like, are you crazy?

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Zero sense, And I mean, I guess to the Colts credit.
I'm trying to think back to that draft, because the
big talk of the draft obviously was Bryce Young first,
overall CJ. Stroud's second. I'm trying to think of the
other quarterbacks that were taken there in that first round,
obviously Will Levis, and that wouldn't have panned out any
better for him either.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
So I feel like the thought process.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Is maybe you just go with raw talent and hopefully
we can develop the guy. And talent I mean athleticism,
I should say, And I don't know, maybe he sees
the field in certain like you could run him like
they like the Steelers were trying to do with justin
fields last year. Oh, I'll put him in some certain packages,
you know, get him down there in the red zone, uses.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Legs, whatever.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Maybe you could utilize something like that with Anthony Richardson.
But at the same time, does he last a full season? Yeah,
just Danny Dimes last a full season. We might get
to the end of the season they may be running
third string quarterback because neither of those.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Guys can last a full season.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I think there is something to be said about that
that we see it so many times with NFL quarterbacks.
I mean, it is so hard to keep the guys
out on the field.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
I mean that's why you have to have a true
reliable backup.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Quarterback absolutely, and they don't. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
So, I mean they're banking on it's Daniel Jones and
Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
At this point. If you're an Indianapolis Colts fans, they
should have kept mention you.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, what are your expectations right now as a fan?
I'm trying to think with break even, I don't know. Yeah, well,
you're talking to a Bears fan over here.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Oh yeah, at least.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Trey's got the eye of the Steel curtain in the
history and eight nine.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
I just think it's interesting that again that we're searching
that because he was the fourth overall pick in that draft,
that he has to be out on the field and
he has to be the guy. And I think they've
seen enough though, and they understand that this guy's not

(07:28):
ready to be able to be an NFL quarterback. And
is it because of his accuracy? I mean, I know
he's had one of the worst completion percentages in his
two year career, and again I know it's limited, but
also his TD to interception ratio was one of the worst,
you know, of starting quarterbacks as in the NFL, you know.

(07:51):
And then so is it his ability to process? Is
it his ability to be able to read coverages? And
we saw in the preseason game, I mean it was
there were some tough times.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Oh yeah, well, I think a lot of it too.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
Like I feel like there's probably a little bit of
a pride aspect there from the front office, like, man,
we got we took this guy forth overall, we got
it's got to be right. But we see time and
time again, you can go back and look at all
the different drafts of first round, not talking about first overall, second,
but the full first round you look at quarterbacks, how
many of them are hits and misses. I mean, it's
the percentage there of actually hitting on a first round

(08:26):
quarterback and then being good much less franchise worthier, game
changing for your organization.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Pretty slim.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
So I feel like at a certain point you throw
the pride aspect out of the window because it's it's
an art, not a science.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
You go, all right, look, we missed. He's not it.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
And to Anthony Richardson's credit, like his big thing is
he's just he's not really good with the layups. Dude
can hit the deep bombs and it's great, and he's
got a beautiful deep pass, but when it comes to
the small little things where it's like, all right, just
just check it down and get us, he just can't.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
And that is such a really good point because I
remember having a conversation with him Hassleback and this is
uh yeah, yeah, the little name drop right there, Timmy
and I that's.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Right, okay, we're exactly.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
But I was having a conversation with Tim Hasselback and
we were talking about DJ and that was his comment,
is that he can't make the layups that you have
to be able to make the easy throws. You don't
have to have the home runs. That's part of being
a successful quarterback, yes, is being able to make some

(09:39):
of those plays and understand, all right, this is not
the time and place to be aggressive, right, this is
all about just move the ball, move the sticks, move
the chain. We only need two yards to get a
first down, so let's get two and a half.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
That's all. Or we let's get too because you know
that's that's all you need.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
We just talked about one of those guys who was
arguably the best ever to do that, Tom Brady. Yes,
I mean, look, obviously could do it all right down Tom,
I mean yeah, but he just moved the chains.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, you have to be able to do that, all right.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
So I do want to switch gears though, real quick
and Top twenty five because I saw this come out
and it made me think because I'm a stats guy.
Oh yeah, I'm a nerds guy. Yes, I love being
able to dive into the stats. And you can't always
tell the story, as you eloquently said mister Trey Falco.
But so PFF came out with their preseason Top twenty five,

(10:40):
and so I was very interested in this relative to
the AP poll and the coach's poll, because which one
should we trust? And now again this is just a
lot of I shouldn't say taken a stab in the dark.

(11:02):
It's not that it's not necessarily you know, throwing spaghetti
up against the wall and seeing what sticks. Because I
do think that the media voters, I think they have
at least a relatively good gauge on what teams are
going to be the best. And I know it's a
little bit harder with the transfer portal and rosters are
completely flipped on certain schools.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
And then you have the coaches. Now you would think that, okay, they.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Should have a decent idea should as far as some
of these teams, But what about the people that they're
looking at it from an analytical standpoint like PFF And
I know John with game on, he's had Max Shadwick
on quite a bit, oh yeah, and does a fantastic job.
So he's got his preseason top twenty five from PFF.

(11:53):
And he's had Clemson number one, Texas number two, Penn
State number three, Alabama number four, Ohio State number five,
and he's got the game Cocks sitting there at number fifteen.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, yes, Notre Dame is six.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Now.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
I jumped down to the game Cocks there because I
was just curious because I want to see consistently where
both Clemson and South Carolina are. Because these other ones,
I do feel the Alabama, the Penn States, the Ohio States,
They're still going to be, you know where they are,
and I do understand that. But obviously, as we're here
in the state of South Carolina, I'm just curious. And

(12:34):
so I'm I am curious which one would I trust more?
And I'm wondering, and not because Clemson is number one
in the PFF with Max Chadwick, but just from a
standpoint that it's more analytics driven and it's focused on
advanced metrics like returning production, recruiting performance data, and I

(12:57):
think it might deviate just a little bit from some
of the traditional polls, but it's still we have no idea.
I mean, and it doesn't matter once the College Football
Playoff rankings come out later in the season, because all
of these doesn't matter. But this at least gives us
somewhat of a reference point. And I'm just curious from

(13:20):
the listeners out there, which would you trust more? Would
it be somebody like a PFF, or would it be
the AP, or maybe it's even some national pundit like
a Joel Klatt or a Josh Pate, you know, Josh
College Football Show. Maybe somebody you know of that nature
who people would trust the most, because I'm curious. I

(13:43):
do think there's something to be said about looking at
when you can analyze some of the data that goes
into it, and somebody who lives and breathes this type
of information, like the guys at PFF. Because as much
as yeah, you'll call me a stat nerd oh, yeah,

(14:06):
that's a different story.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah, now I will say stats don't really lie. So
there's a good point there. But because I was trying
to think, like, you know, maybe at least with a PFF,
you can kind of take a lot of your bias
out of it in the sense of, well, you're just
kind of looking at numbers and numbers add up and
comes out on top. But as we've seen time and
time again, and I mean even look at it like
Neil's list, you could take whatever stats you want to

(14:29):
build whatever narrative you mean, So there's still bias in there.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
So just because you're.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Looking at it as data and going well, numbers don't lie.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
People can lie. Yeah, oh yes, people have their own agenda.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
And that's where I caution using stats, Oh yeah, because
people can make a story out of the stats in
a certain way supports their side of the argument.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Darren.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah. And and I think Trey, you hit the nail
on the head is like, what stats are we looking
at here? Right? Because they can certainly skew in one
way or the other, you know, I I do, I
do love the insight from the coaches, you know, but
there's certainly a subjective bias at its core, of course,

(15:15):
with the coach's poll, you know. And and I'm a
firm believer in the eye test accompanying the data. But
at the end of the day, you know, if you've
if you have selected what you know is a fair
assessment of the data, it's hard to argue against it.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
It is.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
And there is something to be said too that should
we wait a few weeks before we put out, you know,
some type of poll, Probably we probably should, but I
don't think fans would enjoy that.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Now this is we love this, We love.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
This, we love this, this, we thrive on this, and
I know this is what I'm talking about in terms
of we don't really have this in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Now. Yes, you can have your power rankings that you
know come out and.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
That's as close as we get, but we don't have
this type of content because it's unique to college football.
And so that's where I go back to, you can
still have this type of content. You can still have this,
but also have a structure of where these twenty five

(16:31):
teams that's part of your thirty six to forty eight
teams that you talk about at the beginning of the
season most and then you have these other teams they
can compete for their own other trophy.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Right, And there's nothing wrong with that exactly well, and
I also look at the NFL.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
I don't think it translates as well to the NFL too,
because part of the fun of college football is the
unknown factor with the turnover with people graduating and now
the transfer portal to where you go into a new season,
especially now, and you literally have no idea what a
team might Oh.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yes, and I think right now, even this season in particular,
as we're looking at some of these teams, and I've
listened to some of these coaches talk and especially on
various podcasts and they mentioned it in a way pretty transparent.
And I know we talked about Brent Key talking about,

(17:22):
oh the team is, they're not even close to being ready, right.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
I think there.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Might be a little bit more to that because they
don't know what the hell they've got, you know, especially now.
I'm not saying Georgia Tech, because Georgia Tech's got some
stability in some of the key areas, but some of
these other teams.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
They really don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
And even you look at an LSU and I know
LSU right now, I mean they're getting you know, props.
PFF has them at number nine in the country and
we're going to see what happens in a you know,
a week and a half or so against Clemson, but
they had a lot of turnover. Now again, they've got
their quarterback coming back, so that is a big part

(18:01):
of it. Yes, and key cogs there on the defensive
side that are coming back. But they also have a
lot of transfers coming in and so do we know
one hundred percent how they're going to play out this
first year?

Speaker 5 (18:14):
No?

Speaker 3 (18:14):
I mean, look, you hit the nail on the head.
I mean it has changed how you look at your
roster with the transfer portal now as you start the season,
because you don't have the level of continuity. Most these
programs don't have the level of continuity that they had
four or five years ago when they're coming into spring practice,

(18:34):
into summer practice, and to start the season. And you
know that matters. I mean, we look, we talked about
it all the time in basketball, and you hear a
lot of coaches talk about it today. You don't really
necessarily know who your team is until January for basketball,
and so I mean the correlation right football, I mean
it probably takes you know, especially if you've had a

(18:57):
lot of roster turnover. I mean it probably takes two
or three games before you really start to get into
a rhythm. Would be my educated guests for most of
these teams.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, and just think about college football.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
There is no preseason, right, I mean, let's go right
out of the gates in football week and one. All right,
you can join the conversation eight six four two four
zero five four eight zero. We actually went a little
bit over. We got to hit this break. We'll be
back right after this. The Tuesday edition of the Richmond

(19:33):
Weavers Show, presented by Ingles markets. Continuing here on one
oh four nine the Fox Sports Upstate again, you can
join the conversation eight six four two four zero five
four eight zero. Getting that number two the Ingles hotline
eight six four two four zero five four eight zero.
And let's take a look at some of the latest headlines.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
It's only one game, and that's to take care of Benn.

Speaker 6 (19:59):
Hitting the his headlines. It's the daily rundown, all right.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
We were talking about quarterbacks and sometimes just being able
to make the layups, make the easy play, and so
I did see this. And because we also talked about
arch Manning. So Arch Manning was on a podcast and
talking about his grandfather. As we know, Archie Manning, a
great quarterback in the NFL, and so apparently his grandfather
Archie Manning, when they talk on the phone, when he

(20:27):
ends every call, this is what he says to arch Manning.
Get down or get out of bounds. Okay, there you go,
easy solution right there. That's how you can avoid a
lot of trouble right there. As a quarterback. I do
really like that.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
All right. How about this BYU is.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Naming true freshman Bear bock Meyer as the team's starting quarterback.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Bear Bockmeyer. I mean, that is a hell of a name.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
He's going to war number forty seven as a quarterback,
and he'll be the first true freshman to start an
opening game for BYU.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
How about that. That's pretty cool? All right?

Speaker 1 (21:12):
So, Darren, I saw your face. Forty number forty seven.
I just don't like that.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
I can't get out.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
I like the ability to have different jersey numbers for
most everybody. I don't love forty seven for a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Mister Falco, I don't have any kind in the game.
Doesn't matter to man. It's the number you can throw
a touchdout back.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
But if you're a quarterback for this Pittsburgh Steelers, if
he wore number it takes me to the super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
He could wear what one thousand for all.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Long?

Speaker 2 (21:40):
It's not the bubble helmet. I don't care. My wife is.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
My wife is the same way in terms of jersey numbers,
especially in basketball. She does not like seeing like ninety
nine Dennis Rodman, you know, really seventy seven with Luca.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
You know, she does not like that. She wants the
old school traditional.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
You know, you had you know, at one period of time,
you couldn't even have single digit.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
I mean you had to have double digit.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
It was you know, ten through fifteen interesting, and then
you could have twenty through twenty five. You couldn't have
anything but alost you had. You only got five fingers.
If you've got to call on a foul on somebody,
oh number you know, five, yeah, you know, or number
twenty five, and you can't do it's hard to do
number twenty seven just with fingers.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
So yeah, so there you go.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
All right, So Bear brock Backmeyer going to wear number
forty seven. Speaking of basketball, John Wall has announced his
retirement after eleven seasons they're in the NBA. And what
I do find interesting in that also is that he's
a fisher. Retired after thirteen seasons technically because he only

(22:51):
played six hundred and forty seven games out of a
possible one thousand and fifty six games because of injuries.
But he's still made two hundred and seventy six million
dollars in his career. Okay, yeah, that's a business Hall

(23:11):
of Fame type of candidate, right there.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, John Wall.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, so pretty crazy when you think about it from
that perspective. Middle Tennessee State or Middle Tennessee now will
only wear one helmet paired with just two jerseys because
they have decided to stop using alternate uniforms. And that's
going to save them six hundred and sixty eight thousand

(23:39):
dollars by not having alternate uniforms for their players.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Hey, you know what, we're in an era of figuring
out creative ways to generate additional revenue.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yes, you have to be able to do it right,
you have to be able to do it all. Right,
how about this in golf though, Scotti Scheffler has now
been the world number one for one hundred eighteen straight
weeks and counting after his win there at the BMW
Championship in Maryland. Now heading into East Lake upcoming this week,

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and we're actually going to be in on Thursday down
at the Tour Championship. So one hundred and eighteen straight weeks.
But to break Tiger Woods' all time record of being
number one in the world, he would need to hold
the spot until Halloween twenty twenty eight, because Tiger Woods

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held it for two hundred and eighty one weeks. Good luck,
good luck, and maybe he'll dress up as Tiger Halloween
twenty eight, right, Yes, that would be pretty phenomenal right there.
And also in the NBA Pacers coach head coach that is,

(24:55):
Rick Carlisle, has agreed to a multi year extension after
in Indiana to last season's NBA Finals.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Again, I'm telling you, I think he's one of the most.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Underrated coaches in all of basketball, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
It's so funny you just said that, because literally that
was running through my mind. It was going to chime in.
I think he is one of the most undervalued and
appreciated MBA coaches in the history of the.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
League, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
All right, last one, South Carolina, And this is a
little bit of levity, a little bit of humor in
a tough situation for ras Faison in terms of waiting
for the NCAA to declare him eligible or not eligible
for this upcoming football season. So each year you have
the Freshman Newcomer talent show at South Carolina, and according

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to David Kleninger of The Posting Courier, it was last
night and one of the skits that you had to
participate in a spelling bee, and so Rasoul Faison his
word was eligibility.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
A little bit they did right there, but.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
A little bit of levity in the obviously a tense
situation for him because I know he's got to be frustrated,
and you know Shane Biemer is very frustrated. Oh yeah,
Also that he needs a running back, he needs the
opportunity of having Faison there, so hopefully that will get
to resolved. All right, that's some of the latest headlines. Again,

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you can join the conversation eight six four two four
zero five four eight zero and let's head out to
the Ingles hot line right now, the Richmond Weavers show.

Speaker 7 (26:32):
Who's this, Hey, guys, it's Sean.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
How you doing doing fantastic?

Speaker 5 (26:38):
Sean?

Speaker 2 (26:38):
How about you? My friend?

Speaker 7 (26:40):
Pretty good? Pretty good. I just had a response to
Neil's list. He's got more knowledge in his pinky than
I got my whole body, I promise you. But I
agree with the list. I just think you got to
swap Brady and my Homes. There's no way Brady's not

(27:01):
number one. And the reason I say to that is
if Mahomes is number one, then that doesn't take back
Tom Brady's stealing two Super Bowls from him, one in
person with Tampa Bay, and then he also went to
Casey and beat him at Arrowhead do you guys remember
that one championship. I mean so yeah, kind of hard

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to pick Mahomes over Brady when he actually beat him
heads up twice. Also, you know with Tampa Bay, he
was talking about how loaded they were. I don't remember
anybody talking about how loaded Tampa Bay was until Tom
Brady started winning. There. I realized that, I realized that

(27:48):
what's his name, Winston. I realized he threw like thirty
interceptions that year, both.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Prior and all that Todowns saw.

Speaker 7 (28:00):
I remember people saying, oh, Tom Brady made the best.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
Choice of all.

Speaker 7 (28:03):
You know, I wasn't he got there and started winning.
The people actually said saying, man, Tampa Bay, something else.
This offense is loaded, this this defense, you know it
just I don't remember it being that way, but maybe
I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Will Sean. I do remember that there was talk about
Tampa and that's when Bruce arians was there. Is that
from a defensive perspective, they seemed to be, you know,
one of the top teams on the defensive side, but
obviously the question mark offensively and Tom Brady then we
know what happened there. He put them in a completely

(28:41):
different place. He elevated that team. So I think as
the season progressed, I think that's when we started understanding, wow, okay,
Tampa Bay was actually better than some of us thought.
But I think I tend to agree with you, Sean,
that I don't know if it was a scenario playing
out where Tampa Bay was viewed as a true super

(29:02):
Bowl contender outside of having Tom Brady on the team.

Speaker 7 (29:07):
Right, exactly exactly. Tom Brady's that you know, denominator man.
You put him on a team, especially back then, it's like,
it's crazy what he can do and motivate, how he
can motivate. He's a coach on the field, he's a
field general. Crazy, crazy what Tom Brady could do. I'm
I'm a big Tom Brady fan. I'm not a Patriots fan,

(29:28):
not a Bucks fan, but I am a Brady fan.
And I think it's crazy not to have him as
number one. But that's just me, and he said, and
Neil even said, he's like, man, there's gonna be some
people that this is gonna off.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Hot take nil is what we're going to call him now, Sean.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
But I do like his list.

Speaker 7 (29:48):
But I think there's a spot in there for Peyton
Manning as well. I just don't know where to put him.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, that's right to come off that.

Speaker 7 (29:55):
Somebody's got to come off that list.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
That's the tough part, that's right, Yes, Shan. We appreciate
the phone call, sir. We got to hit this brake.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Okay, all right, thanks guys, thank you so much. We appreciated.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Anybody else you can join the conversation also eight six
four two four zero five four eight zero. And we
love these lists, oh yeah, please bring them on. We're
all about come into Weaverville with your list, your top ten,
whatever it might be, because we'll dissect it, we'll talk
through it, and we'll try.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
To give you our perspective as well. Much more. Right
after this.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Eight six four two four zero five four eight zero,
that's the number two, the Ingles Hotline in eight six
four two four zero five four eight zero right here
on the Richmond Weavers Show, presented by our good friends
at Ingles Markets, and join the conversation and let's head
out to the Ingles hot line right now, we've got
Billy on the line. Good afternoon to you, sir.

Speaker 5 (30:53):
What's going on all three of you guys today? Hopefully
you're all having a wonderful day.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yes, sir, sir, fantastic day.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
Apparently none of us is having as good of a
day as Neil the last couple of days in Chad today.
And you know, listen, I've got something to say to Chad.
Listen Sunday, and not this Sunday, but the Sunday after.
I don't want him walking in front of the seven
when ide Calina, I've got the ball. I don't need

(31:20):
Tailor sawing him the ball. Okay, just keep that in mind.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah he can.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
Okay. Now then we've got that out of the way.
The first thing is, you know, I think it's interesting
Rich that you were talking about what is the best poll,
especially since there's not been a game played, and I
would probably lean towards PSF, with the one caveat that
being I've not really paid attention to any of their polls.

(31:46):
I don't know if you have, or Tray or John
or anyone else. It's listening, but I've never really paid
attention to their polls. Now, you would think it's probably
back by what they anticipate what's going to happen in
the draft, which is why I would probably lead a
little more creditge to it. But I haven't seen enough
of that to know if they've been off, because we
you know, you mentioned several times in the last couple

(32:07):
of weeks of the ap pole, and you know, there's
been at least one team that was in the top
ten that didn't end up in the top twenty five.
There were several teams that was in the top twenty
five that wouldn't rank at the end of the year.
So it's obviously flawed, and I'm just curious how that
would hold up for the PFF poll.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Well, we'll put it to the test, mister Billy, because yes,
I think there's an opportunity to analyze all three of
the polls later on in the season, and especially obviously
at the end of the season, and we'll see who
had a better opportunity. And I'm curious too, because, as
you talked about the stats perspective, when you've got data

(32:45):
driven metrics like player grades, returning production, recruiting rankings, and
sometimes that can cut through some of what we would
call media hype, media bias, whatever.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
But at the end of the day, Billy, we don't know.
Let's see what happens out on the field.

Speaker 5 (33:01):
Yes, I agree with that. So the next thing is
Nil's list is it's fraudulent, it's wall and it's biased.
Any list at quarterback ranking that does not include Tom
Brady as your number one guy, it just shows me
how biased you are. I mean, I think everyone agrees
with that, whether you like him or not. It's like

(33:21):
you said, he holds records that franchises does not hold,
and that includes Super Bowl appearances and victories. I mean,
that's amazing. I still every time I hear that, it
amazes me that one guy has won more Super Bowls
than every franchise combined, I mean not combined, but on
the whole. So that tells you how great that guy was.

(33:42):
I don't care. You can't tell me that he's not
the best ever. And then you know, you can argue
about who two, three, four, and five are. You know,
that's arguable. I get that, but you just can't go
against that. If you want to go against that, then
he's making the argument that well nobody considers will or
not Wilt Chamberlain, what's the good real place for the Celtics.
And yeah, Bill Russell, Yeah Russell, I'm sorry, Yeah Russell,

(34:07):
I agree with that. It's hard not to look at
all those championships that man won. Yes, at that time,
he clearly was the most dominant player in basketball. Now,
I don't know what would have happened if you put
him in the NBA in the eighties or nineties, but
I'm sure he would have won a few.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yes, there's no question he was a dominant force. You
can't argue that.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
Yeah. Yeah, anyway, and then you know we're getting we're
closing in Richmond. I can't believe it, but I mean,
you know we're gonna have football this weekend. I guess
I'm gonna have to start looking at nicking a.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Few picks, that's right, Yes, hey, And next week is
when we'll officially do the weekly pick them, so get ready.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
So that is kind of.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
Well, if I see anything that I like this week,
i'll I'll call in and give you. If not, then
I'll definitely start this weekend. You know, I've already got
a couple of them that I sing that I really love.
So we'll see. I'm playing on beating Neil as nobody else.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
There we go, let's do that's right, And if.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
You know, my my sister in law keeps giving him
whatever she's given him, we'll all right, and then I'll
close with this. My wife told me just now that
I cannot come back in the house if I don't
say hello to my son Sean, because he's a regular
listener now to you guys show. So hello Sean.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Fantastic guys, Yes, thank you, Bill Heire. Yes, hello Sean.
We appreciate you listening in Indiana through the iHeartRadio app.
So absolutely fantastic. And yes, and I knew you were
going to beat Neil in the game, so congratulations on that.
All right, real quick before he hits this break talking
about Tom Brady.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Records. You ready for some of this?

Speaker 6 (35:41):
No?

Speaker 3 (35:42):
No?

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Oh, yeah, get ready for this. Here's some of the
key records for Tom Brady. Most Super Bowl wins by player, seven,
most in NFL history, Career passing yards record eighty nine
and fourteen, career passing touchdowns record one hundred and forty nine,
career completions seven thousand, seven hundred and fifty three, career

(36:05):
attempts twelve thousand and fifty. He's had the most wins
for a quarterback playoff wise thirty five, the most playoff
passing yards in NFL history thirteen thousand, four hundred, the
most playoff passing touchdowns eighty eight, the most Pro Bowl
selections fifteen, that's the most of all time, the most
Super Bowl MVP awards five. He started the most games

(36:29):
in NFL history outside of a kicker three hundred and
thirty three, the most regular season wins two hundred and
fifty one, the most consecutive ten win seasons thirteen, and
the most consecutive eleven win seasons twelve.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Jeez, that's mister Tom Brady. That's it.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Numbers, I mean, that's incredible.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
GA T And I don't know if it's close. And
I know we talked about you can do one, A,
one B. But now that you really started examining, I
think Tom Brady's up there. I think he's the number one.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
It's hard to argue. Yeah, it's very hard to argue.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Much more of this Tuesday edition of The Richmond Weaver
Show presented by Ingles Markets. Right after this, wrapping up
hour two of this Tuesday edition of The Richmond Weavers
Show presented by Ingles Markets. And remember this is part
of the new programming here on one of four nine
Fox Sports Upstate four hours of local programming from three

(37:40):
to seven pm each day, as we will hand things
off to mister John Ellis in game on at the
top of the hour and he will be with you
for the rest of drive time until seven pm. So
keep it tuned in right here on one O four
nine Fox Sports Upstate to and reminder also that next Wednesday,

(38:01):
Oh yes, Connor Shall, former South Carolina great quarterback, is
going to be joining us in studio to take a
look at the South Carolina game Cocks and seeing what
potential they might have, especially from a quarterback perspective. Oh yeah,
and I think there's some similarities between Connor Shaw and
Leonora Sellers. People might forget just how elusive Connor Shaw

(38:27):
was with his legs. I mean, I watched a few
of those Clemson games where Connor Shaw was also doing
what Lenora Sellers did last season. Was hard to tackle.
And it was also just that third and sixteen, third
and twenty three and somehow Connorshaw would get seventeen yards

(38:49):
to get a first down, or he'd get twenty four
yards and get a first down, and that would be
the game. It would be the backbreaker, it would be
the tipping point, you know, for the Clemson Tigers there
against South Carolina and Connorshaw owned Clemson back in the day,
and he was a hell of a quarterback. I think

(39:11):
when you look back at what he did, I mean
he brought that winning attitude and I know Spurryers, I
mean I get that. But Connor Shall seemed to be
beloved by the South Carolina faithful, and I think there's
a lot of people that would still put him up
as the top quarterback ever there in South Carolina. Now,
will Leonora Sellers, will he be able to surpass what

(39:36):
Connor Shaw was able to do? Because remember South Carolina
with Connor Shaw at that time, if you had a
twelve team playoff, Oh.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
They're in automatically.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Yeah, I shouldn't say automatically, but they're in, no question,
and they could have easily been able to contend for
a national championship.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
He has a career passer rating of one hundred and
fifty five point nine. Oh there you go, twenty four
to one TDD interception ratio is a senior I'm mean, yeah, yeah,
he was.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
He was balling out, Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
All right, one other thing, and I saw you pull
it up there, mister Trey Falco. Jerry Jones, Yes, yes, okay,
do you do know now it's out, Oh the Gambler
and his Cowboys. Yes, yeah, I'm anxious to see that.
Your thoughts, mister Darren Angel. You wanting to see Jerry

(40:33):
Jones the docuseries about Jerry Jones and how he built
built the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, I am all over that.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
I'm definitely looking forward to seeing that and seeing how
that plays out. I know, mister Falco, he has no
interest in watching anything with the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
I just if I have to listen to Jerry Jones
more Cowboys, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Whatever. Oh yes, I can hear it in your voice. Whatever.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
All right, it is August, the nineteenth football week is here.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
But let's walk back in a little bit of history.

Speaker 6 (41:07):
What happened on this day. Let's go back in history
to the moments you might have forgotten and the ones
you'll never forget. It's otd on this day, all right?

Speaker 1 (41:19):
How about this in nineteen oh nine, the Philadelphia Phillies
back in the day, this is a record, nineteen oh nine,
they were rained out ten consecutive days exactly.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Oh yeah, back in the day, you never knew what
the weather was going to be. Lying yes, nineteen oh nine.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
How about this in nineteen seventeen though also manager this
is Major League Baseball, the manager John McGraw for the
Giants and Christy Matheson, the manager.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
For the Reds.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
They were arrested after a game They're in New York
because of the New York Blue Laws, which did not
allow games to be played on Sunday. What and it
was all based on a benefit for American troops heading

(42:13):
off to World War One, But they were still arrested
because they played on a Sunday, even though it was
to benefit American troops. That's what I'm talking about, some
of the irrational things that we do in as human beings.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
You just don't think.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Logically, you don't think through things, and it just drives
me crazy at times. And how about this in two
thousand and sixteen, mister Usain Bolt scores another sweep, winning
three gold medals in his third consecutive Olympics. Again you
talking about can we say goat and track and field,

(42:55):
especially in the oh the events that we love to watch,
the one hundred two hundred, This guy was the epitome
of that. It was all right, that is ot D
and that is this Tuesday edition of the Richmond Weaver Show,
presented by Ingalls.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
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