The Richmond Weaver Show 2025-5-12

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Exploring the latest headlines and in depth conversations. It's the
Richmond Weavers Show on one oh four nine Fox Sports
up State, presented by Ingles Low Prices, love the savings,
Now for riches, take on sports. Here's Richmond Weaver ready to.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Roll this Monday.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Right here on one O four nine Fox Sports Upstate.
This is the Monday edition of the Richmond Weaver Show,
presented by our good friends at Ingles Markets. And you
might need to get to the grocery store to replenish
from the weekend, or maybe you already went there this
weekend and hopefully you had your Ingles Advantage card that
you could visit your local Ingles and save money inside

(00:42):
the store and also at the gas pump. Because we
had Mother's Day, that's right this past weekend, so hopefully
everybody got to celebrate with their mom, either locally, virtually,
phone calls, whatever.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
It might be.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
And obviously thought some prayers for the people that weren't
able to celebrate with their mom because of distance, because
of also maybe they have already left and that you
can celebrate their memory.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
So we do want to.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Wish everybody a happy Mother's Day because telling you I
know I mean, I'm fifty three years old and still
moms are moms. Oh yeah, I mean that is the
reality of it. I don't care how you slice it,
dice at whatever. So we celebrate moms, grandmothers as well
all around this area, and so hopefully everybody got an

(01:30):
opportunity to be able to do that, and then also
again get to your local ingles so you can save
money and get the best produce in town, get the
best meat in town, all of those things, replenish your
groceries from this past.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Weekend, and then getting ready for another.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Week as we also are winding down the schools here
in Greenville County. Yeah, it's already tough to Yes, summer
is right around the corner, so there is that. Now
this doesn't look like a summer day. I guess we
can feel like it was cold this weekend.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
I think I went on Saturday and it was like
fifty degrees or something sixty degrees.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
It's raining right now here in downtown Greenville. It's humid,
so it feels a little bit warmer than it is.
But I think the high is only going to be
like sixty eight to seventy degrees. So that's again we
know you never know what's going to happen weatherwise here
in the Upstate.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
That is the truth. But we do have a jam
pack show.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
As you heard the voice behind the mic right there,
mister Trey Falco also behind the board.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
As always, we've.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Been trying to get this scheduled right, yes, with Mark
Kinderman and also Jake Williams. And this is the director
and producer of the SEC Story documentary that's going to
be debuting on the SEC Network in Spirit, highlighting the
twenty ten twenty eleven back to back national championship baseball

(02:55):
South Carolina game cocks, right, and the unique story about
two special teams mates that actually inspired this team. And
when I say teammates, it's honorary teammates. Oh okay, yes,
so there is that. But this documentary is absolutely fantastic.
I've watched it. It's a tear jerker, so just know

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that going into it. But Mark Kinderman and Jake Williams
did a fantastic job putting this together and again at
debuts Wednesday at seven pm on the SEC Network in Spirit.
And so we get to talk with the director and
the producer, but we were preempted on Friday when we
were scheduled to talk with them because of South Carolina

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Baseball switching to a doubleheader on Friday.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
I mean, if it's going to be preempted, like, I
don't know if you can write it any better.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Could not. As we were texting back and forth with them.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
It was so appropriate that Okay, at least it was
game coop baseball.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I did this.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
It wasn't something you know else outside of that. So
definitely looking forward to that in the next segment. So
stay tuned for that. Telling you all, you South Carolina fans,
you are going to love this walking down a little
bit of memory lane. The twenty ten twenty eleven back
to back national championships in baseball and getting rid of
the chicken curse. Oh yes, because there was always that

(04:16):
talk that South Carolina could never win a national championship,
and now we've seen that they've been able to do
that obviously in baseball, and then South Carolina has done
that on the women's basketball side with Don Staley a
dominant team in women's college basketball, and now with Shane Beemer,
will he be able to get the game Cocks in

(04:37):
that position for a national championship?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
That is a good question, and I think Shane Beemer
is the coach to do it.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
There's a little bit of selfishness here in the fact that, like,
I want Leonora Sellers to do really well this year,
but not good enough that he goes like first overall,
I need him about round like eight, nine, maybe ten,
so the Steelers could go pick him up.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, so you're stated as a Steeler. Yes, yes, I
can understand that. But why wouldn't the Steelers trade up
and try to grab him. I think they would.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
I just don't know if they have enough draft capital,
and especially depending on where they fall this year, if
they fall where they normally fall, around twenty one twenty,
if he ends up being lights out and is there
in like the top five, I don't know that the
Steelers have enough capital to trade up that far. But
if he's like good, maybe rough around the edges, and

(05:27):
he falls to maybe like eleven or twelve, I think
the Steelers can potentially move up to around there.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
I think this is going to be very interesting this
season for the state of South Carolina. And I've mentioned
this before because when you have Leonoria Sellers at South
Carolina and you have a caid club Nick at Clemson,
telling you, I think the spotlight is on the entire
state because of these two quarterbacks and what they might
be able to do leading both of these programs into

(05:54):
the College Football Playoff because we know it's twelve teams. Yes,
so there is opportunity. And South Carolina fans, I know
you're cautiously optimistic, right and rightfully, so I get that
Clemson used to be the same way they were able
to get over the hump.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
So can this be the year that South Carolina.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Gets over the hump and they don't have to go
win the national championship?

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Right this year? Just make the College Football Playoff?

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yes, just get into what we will call the football
Dance and have that opportunity. And how many times have
we talked about it, Trey from a playoff perspective, Just
get there because you never know what can happen.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
So you're telling me there's a chance.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, yes, And I refer back to so many times
the New York Giants, yes, wild card teams with Eli Manning,
he won two Super Bowls, Right, and nobody thought in
the world that the Giants would have any opportunity of
winning in both of those years, right, And then even

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when they did have success getting to the Super Bowl,
and especially then when it's against the New England Patriots.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
No way.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
This is the Patriots, the dominating Patriots, going for the
first opportunity since the Miami Dolphins to go undefeated in
the NFL and even actually win more games than the
Dolphins did. And it seemed like there was no way
they were going to be stopped. The Patriots, that is,
but we saw the New York Giants. So the point

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is is that just get there. Just get to the playoffs,
because you don't know what will happen. And even if
you get to the playoffs and you don't win, it's
a signature moment for your program, though, to get to
the playoffs, because at the end of the day, you
have to take baby steps. You have to take one
step at a time. It's very difficult to go from

(07:48):
not making the playoffs next year you win the whole
entire thing, right, And so.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
It's a process.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
It's step by step and sometimes it's not linear though.
That's the other thing that we talk about out So
maybe you make it this year and the next year
you don't, but then two years from now, then you
advance to the next round and then even more so
the next round. But I do believe that Shane Beemer
is the guy that can lead the South Carolina game Cocks.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
I think so too.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
And you know, talking about the NFL and that that
whole Eli Manning arc, and it just goes to show
you just how close a lot of these teams are.
Like we look at the NFL and we're like, oh man,
that team. Man, that team's not great, Like, oh they're
bad this year. They want it, but in relative terms,
on an even playing field, something like the playoffs, say
they get in there, any team can win if they
get hot, especially in the NFL. And I think the

(08:39):
great thing about like we talk about the transfer portal
and oh and I l and all of this, but
the great thing about it that I feel like sometimes
often gets overlooked. We talk about loyalty, we talk about
all this, but the great thing is we're seeing a
lot more of that parody here in the college realm.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
You know, used to it, you look at.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
It, you go, oh man, what yeah, no, no chance,
no way, But now you kind of gotta look out.
You gotta look at these matchups a whole lot close.
That's where your paralysis by analysis comes in, but you do.
You have to look at these matchups so much more
closely now because there is that parody.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, and I think there's something to be said that
when you're looking at the playoffs and looking at just
the overall schedule for a lot of these teams, you
can't just base it on what has been done in
the past because things are changing so much and moving
so fast, and the transfer portal nil is a factor

(09:37):
into all of that, especially on the college basketball side.
But we do know even on the football side. But
I still just wonder looking at Lenora Sellers and Kid
Clubnick and we'll talk more about this, but this has
the opportunity of a competition that is going to be
talked about and they won't meet until the end of

(10:00):
the year. I get that, But how exciting is that?
And that's why I keep coming back to Okay Clemson fans,
Okay South Carolina fans.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I know you don't like each other.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
I understand that this is a rivalry, right, But don't
you want both programs to be elite when they meet?

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Why wouldn't you?

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Why wrightn't you want national exposure to both of these schools,
especially when you're looking at the state of South Carolina,
which is a small state from a population standpoint, we
do know that, but even just from an athletic standpoint,
other than Clemson getting some of the recognition, right winning
national championships, that's more, we're just Clemson, but let's get

(10:41):
some recognition for the entire state.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
When you have two programs.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Can you imagine both programs being ranked in the top
ten and you've got Lenora Sellers and Kate Klubnik fighting
out for potential Heisman.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Can you imagine if both of them go to New York.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
That's insane what that could mean for not only both
programs but also for the state.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Right.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
And here's the thing too, is like I get this idea,
Like you obviously always want to beat your rival, like
that's you know, as a Clemson fan, there's nothing better
than going out there and beating South Carolina each week.
But to your point, when that other team is better,
not only does it make you look better, but I
think it benefits the state as a whole, because if
you've got a just a dynamic rivalry like that that

(11:26):
churns buzz out in the high school and everything, you
got people outside of the state that can look at
both teams now and go, hey, man, I kind of
like that rivalry.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
What do I like better? Do I like Orange or
do I like Garnet?

Speaker 3 (11:39):
That's right, Well, I know this guy right here likes
Orange's a little bit better. Even though my daughter goes
to South Carolina, so I do have to have some
of the Garnet and black in the family. In the NBA,
we did have a big game as the Pacers win
one nine to one oh nine over the Cleveland Cavaliers yesterday,
and this was a dominant performance by Indiana. So now

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they're up three to one in this series, and the
Thunder still won from the Nuggets. They're at home ninety
two to eighty seven as SGA has twenty five points,
six rebounds, and six assist And we will talk about
this a little bit later. The Celtics go on the
road beat New York one fifteen to ninety three, and

(12:22):
New York was up two to oh in this series.
Now they're up to to one. But I did feel
that that game, third game for the Knicks, it was
oh so critical. And I'm not the only one who's
talked about this, but now I'm telling you. I think
there's something we talked with Jason temp host of Hoops

(12:42):
Tonight last Wednesday about the Celtics that.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Hey, you're the defending NBA champions you've.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Got to showcase that you've got to be able to
go into New York and put down the hammer against
the Knicks, because you do not want to go down
three in that series. But now for the Knicks, that
underdog mentality, they still the first two games in the series,
and I just wondered how they would respond with a

(13:12):
little bit more of the target on their back now
and knowing that Okay, they're up to Oh oh, think
I just win two more games, right, and that's it.
I think there was so much pressure on the Knicks
at home Madison Square Garden going crazy, and I think
when that red light came on, I think that's where

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it showed for the Boston Celtics that they've been there,
they've done that, They've been in those pressure type of
situations and they were able to get over that hump
last year and win the NBA Championship. So we'll be
interesting to see how game goes tonight and we'll talk
more about that. And also we did see the Timberwolves
get a victory over the Warriors one O two to
ninety seven as Jimmy Butler did everything that he could.

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But Steph Curry is still out and it does not
look like he's going to be able to come back
for this series, so that could be a difficult situation
for the Warriors. But when we come back, Yes, we
are going to talk with Mark Kinderman and Jake Williams,
the director and producer of the SEC story documentary that
debuts Wednesday the fourteenth at seven pm on the SEC

(14:21):
Network called In Spirit, which chronicles the twenty ten, twenty
and eleven back to back national championships in baseball for
the South Carolina game Cocks and two of the special
teammates that were part of that and gave inspiration to
this team, and we'll talk to them right after this.

(14:43):
I've been looking forward to this segment for a few
days here. Oh yeah, once I got it all lined
up to be able to have both of these guests
on at the same time. I'm telling you it's a great
opportunity as we're going to be diving into a story
and a lot of game Cock fans that you will
want to hear about this that it will hit you though,
right in the heart and remind you of why we

(15:04):
love sports. The SEC story documentary In Spirit debuts on
the SEC Network Wednesday, May fourteenth at seven pm, celebrating
the South Carolina game Cocks back to back national championships
in twenty ten and twenty eleven, but more importantly, the
incredible bond they forged with two young fans, Charlie Peters

(15:26):
and Baylor Teal and joining me now behind the film,
the Masterminds director Mark Kinderman, the storytelling veteran with ESPN
and producer Jake Williams, a former Gamecock outfielder and national
champ himself. Mark, Jake can't thank you enough for joining
us and just to keep things succinct and moving because
I know our listeners want to be able to hear

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from both of you. I'm going to start with you, Jake,
take us back when this idea for In Spirit first
hit you.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
And knowing that the memory of.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Baylor Teal and obviously Charlie will He meant to the
team that made you say this story has to be told.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
Well, thank you guys for having us. We're thrilled to
be on and and in the in this unique situation
Mark and I together, I'm very excited. So yes, this
was a story obviously close to home, as I lived
this back in my college years and was able to
be a part of these championships firsthand. Some time had
gone by post championships, and you know, the story stood

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as one of the all time greats, one of the
great teams ever in college baseball. So I knew someone
was going to go after telling the story. Later I
found out that someone was Mark Kinderman. Now we we
what happened along the way before I met with Mark
was some some years of trial and tribulation just to
get the story greenlit. You know, about five or six

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years went by after the championships when I first had
the idea, and then I first got Ray Tanner and
the university involved. We started kicking off with some interviews,
trying to trying to get some fun going, trying to
get the right resources happening. It took a little time
to get to the right deal and to get to
the right situation where Mark and I finally found each other.
With ESPN, we linked up a few years back, and

(17:13):
fortunately this film found its way to the natural home
in ESPN and the sec network. The story itself, you know,
as as you mentioned with the with the with the
Peters family and the Teal family, it's as.

Speaker 6 (17:25):
Pointing as it gets, and I loved how you put it.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
It does remind us why we love sports. So again,
the team stand is one of the great every but
also it has such an amazing romance to the story
as well. So I knew, I knew it had to
get told. I knew it needed to be told in
the right way. So, you know, me being a first
time filmmaker and aspiring storyteller, I took off into the

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story and you know, some years it took, but we
finally got here and could be more.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Excited, no question.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Well can I use this pun, Jake, you hit a
home run right here. There's no question when you're.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Able to put this story together. Yes, all right.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
So Mark, then I have to jump to you in
terms of hearing what Jake just talked about the romance
of the story. So from your perspective when Jake first
was talking to you about this, what was it about
the vision that made you jump on board with this project?

Speaker 6 (18:20):
You know, my worry, I think a lot of it
was was with the families that I really wanted to
get you know, their story sold. Obviously, the team went
in in ten and eleven is huge. Back back is
really important. But when I went back and looked at
the tapes, you know, from ten and eleven, and I
saw Aaron Andrews, you know, interviewing you know, the Tee

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Old family and being with them, and then in eleven,
you know, you can see all the shots that Charlie
Peterson dugout and I kind of knew, you know, what
we had there already visually. It was just a matter
of kind of of bringing out that story. And you know,
Jake had already done a lot of the lab work.
He interviewed the Teals you know already, and you know,

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was was getting set to do more with the Peters,
and you know, I was, you know, kind of happy
we were in sync from there.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah, and remind everybody The SEC Story documentary In Spirit
debuts on the SEC Network Wednesday, May fourteenth at seven pm,
and celebrating South Carolina's back to back national baseball championships
in two thousand and ten and twenty eleven, but also
more importantly, about the story of two unlikely heroes. And

(19:34):
we're joined right now by the director Mark Kinderman and
producer Jake Williams. And so that family side that you're
talking about, Mark, that's where some of the you've been
experienced with some heavy hitting stories that you've done previously
with the ESPN and in Spirit Companies are embodies that
type of mindset as well, because it's not just about

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South Carolina and their run that they had in terms of,
you know, being able to hit home runs, just the
dominance that they had in that postseason in the trophies,
but it's about the two boys battling cancer who ultimately
became the heartbeat of these teams.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
So how did you.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Approach that balancing the triumph of this amazing run during
the postseason in the College World Series for these teams,
but also the raw emotional weight of Charlie and Baylor's journeys.

Speaker 6 (20:26):
Well, I think the important thing there is that you
have to make space for those stories. You know, especially
as you think about the comeback in the Oklahoma game
and what goes on from there in the twenty ten series,
that you have to leave that space for guys like
Baylor's dad, Rob Teal and Chad Holbrook who are who

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are so emotional in that story. It's just a matter
of making that space so that they can tell those stories.
And then you're kind of building back out from around
that Charlie. You know, obviously he's you know, still with
us and doing well, and that's that's a you know,
a lot more lighthearted as you get deeper in the show,
but you still want to be able to tie those things,

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you know, back into the baseball And that's really I
think what Jake and I looked for is that where
do these intersections hit, where they tie most between these
families and these two teams, and make sure those points
get in the show, get in the film, and want
to do that the rest you know, kind of falls

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into place.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, and Jake, someone who lived the moments you were
there and you know, now being able to view it
from a retrospective type of lens, you know, working with Mark,
when did you feel that, yes, we're capturing the soul
of what this team was all about.

Speaker 5 (21:51):
Well, for me, it was finally a blessing to find
Mark and the gentleman at ESPN, Scott Seebers and few
others were really instrumental and kind of keeping this afloat
at different times kind of what it happened was along
the way is again me being a first time er,
I was just trying to find the right partners to
help bring this story to screen, to help get it

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to life. You know, I didn't want to just have
it fall away where no one would see it. I
had to do whatever I needed to do to get
it there. Fortunately, again in a in a really sort
of God send kind of way, ESPN set Mark and
Eye up together. Mark, Mark and his company they've been

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doing these sorts of stories for years. They've they're seasoned vets.
In fact, they've done sec stories already, and they just
did the skip Bertman film, a few baseball films. So
it gave me an easy comfort finally finding them, knowing
this was going to be the right partners to take
this to the screen. Sure enough it was, and we

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we did a real beautiful job of you know, as
Mark described, of bringing the you know, keeping the baseball involved,
but bringing the essence of those families and those stories
and really as happening alongside of that. So the partnerships
was perfect. Mark was the man for the job. This
is you know, this has been my baby since the beginning,

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so it's been incredible to kind of see it all
blossom out together.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, and Jake, then I do have to ask you,
and I know you've talked about this and it really
comes out on the screen, but just hearing it directly
from you, how did their presence, Charlie and Baylor, how
did their presence really impact this team in the dug
out there?

Speaker 5 (23:37):
You know, it's funny how it's a unique way to
tell the story as through the lens of someone who
actually played on the teams too. So that's why I
was so excited. You know, I had so many inside
books perspectives of what was really happening and missed all this.
So for us, you know, in twenty ten, every you know,

(23:58):
I think the Baylor Teel story was got pretty wide
known around Columbia, which is which is going to be
great for so many people to relive it and to
remember and to see really all what happened around that
story and that and what made it so incredible to
a family that was die Harder's grew up die hard
game bocks, you know, so it was magical, you know,
you you see, you know, the teams are writing BT

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on the hats. That truly meant something, you know, there's
a line in the film, you know, coach Holbrook talks
about seeing twenty one year old kids in the emotions
they're feeling, and how real it was and how impactful
it actually was to see, you know, this kid and
to have a different sort of perspective. You know, it
wasn't so much about oh, my gosh, we're so worried
if we're gonna win this game. It was more about

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just going and loving playing the game for Baylor and
having having fun with that. On the other side of
that was the Peters family, where you know, then in
the next year, Charlie's actually able to be in our dugout,
in our literally in our eyes, in our face. Here's
the living example the life and the overcoming of such hardship.
You know, Ray talks about how in the dugout, in

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some of the most intense moments in these games, he
should be, you know, sort of worried, thinking about, oh,
oh man, what's about to happen in this you know,
especially the scenes we were in, right, those crazy jams
that you should just knock it out. Yeah, you got
out of them over and over and over again. Ray
Tanner talks about, oh, there's Charlie literally next to me

(25:22):
in the dugout and offering a very cool, easy comfort
and perspective of there's a lot more happening outside of
baseball here and life and everything's really okay, and look
what we're actually at and then boom, we were able
to play at our highest levels.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
He is producer Jake Williams, and we're also talking with
director Mark Kinderman, and you can check out the SEC
story documentary in Spirit, which debuts on the SEC Network Wednesday,
May fourteenth at seven pm in celebrating the South Carolina's
back to back national championships in twenty ten and twenty
and eleven. That magical run, but also even more magic

(26:00):
with the two heroes that were part of that team.
And they'll always be remembered, all right. So, Mark, I
do have to ask you, as Jake was just talking
about Ray Tanner, one of the things that I think
to come across that did come across here is that
we know that Ray Tanner has a somewhat of a
pravado I mean, tough as nails type of coaching style,

(26:20):
and Jake, you obviously know that you played for him,
but you were able to pull out some of this
softer side of Ray Tanner where he connected with you know,
Charlie and Baylor and even the opportunity of going to
the children's hospital there in Omaha and all of that.
So how was how were you able to do that
when you're sitting down and interviewing with him.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
You know, I had a little bit of a previous
relationship with him because I'd interview him for the Skip
Burtman Show, yeah, back twenty nineteen, and you know, I
think he at least had some familiarity with me. But
it was certainly a story he wanted to tell and
wanted to get out up there that you know, he'd seen,

(27:02):
you know, what Chad Holbrook had done with the Keel family,
and obviously Canner was close to him too, and then
he had his own bond going back you know to
four with with you know, the Peters family. Yes, and
those were things that he wanted to talk about, and
you know, his wife Karen wanted to talk about and

(27:25):
they were eager to do so. And you know, I
think it brought him a lot of joy.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, And I think there's something to be said about
that when you see a different side of some of
these personalities, and I think sometimes they might have things
bottled up they do want to get out. And Jake,
did you feel that from not only Coach Tanner, but
even Coach Holbrook and the other players that that's why
one of the reasons why you wanted to have this

(27:52):
story told is because there impacted so many people and
they also wanted to be able to share those emotions.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
Yeah, I felt that, And and these these interviews were
such a fun time one for all reliving of course
the baseball stuff, but too just seeing how pointing and
how impactful and really each each different character had it
in a different way. Yes, you know, so it was
so fun to hear the you know, I mean, I
believe we did close to sixty interviews for this film,

(28:20):
so you know, to hear almost sixty perspectives of Baylor,
and you know the same for Charlie, and the same
for all these plays and how it went down, and
you know, you know, take out Charlie and Baylor just
for a second, is you know how many other people
had impactful stories. I mean, these weren't the first championships
for the game copulation, you know, and how many different
stories we heard along the way of how much this

(28:42):
truly touched people and families and uh, and how it
brought together so many and so yeah, it was just
incredible to be able to hear all these to relive them,
to kind of you know, to to now bring them
to screen and to and to see the magic of
how it all actually happened. It's been really incredible.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, no question. The chicken curve, it's over right in.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
No more.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yes, that's right. And obviously following that up in twenty eleven.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
All right, So Mark, I have to ask you then,
in terms of individuals that you wanted involved, obviously based
on some conversations you're having with Jake and but to
have a Ryan McGee, to have you know, a Darius Rucker,
were there other individuals that you wanted to have involved
or why did you choose some of these personalities.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
I think we got about everyone we wanted to get
in the show. I mean, you know, the one anybody
I think who said no, you know with Darius, you know,
it was just a matter of scheduling. It's you know,
not like you're sitting there waiting, you know, but he
done so much with ESPN, that's just a matter of
can you find twenty thirty minutes. And you know, and

(29:54):
you know, we're fortunate that Travis Haney, who wrote two
wonderful books on these teams. You know, also, you know,
lives in Nashville. We did. You would think we'd do
Daris Rutgers, South Carolina. We did down in Nashville where
he's got a place as well. Ryan McGee I have
known since nineteen ninety four, you know, we were production

(30:17):
assistants at ESPN together long again, Bristol, long ago and
far away. And he's got his own, you know, college
baseball book, and there's no one I trust more talking
about college baseball than Ryan McGee. So that was that
was just a matter of hopping on text with it,
and they said, what do you need when you need it?

Speaker 3 (30:35):
I love it and I think there's something again to
be said that they wanted to be involved in telling
this story in multiple ways. That is Mark Kinderman, director,
And we're also talking with producer Jake Williams of the
SEC story documentary In Spirit that debuts on the SEC
Network Wednesday, May fourteenth at seven pm, again celebrating the

(30:55):
South Carolina game Cocks National Baseball championships back to back
in twenty ten and twenty eleven, but again two unlikely
heroes that were a big part. And that's one of
the things that I think is so important about the story.
And you guys have talked about it a little bit,
but Jake, I'm just curious from your standpoint the emotions

(31:18):
that you guys bring out on the screen and as
I'm watching it, I'm tearing up, I'm crying. So you
were able to pull that from a viewer like me,
How important was that for you not to emphasize just
on the success of the team, but really bring everybody
back to the heart of these two kids that were

(31:39):
battling cancer and unfortunately Baylor Teal passed away, but being
able to capture that type of emotion.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
Well, I appreciate such a question. If you know. What
happened for me was along the way. And I've mentioned
this before, but you know, yes, we are aware as
the team. On the team, we were aware of these
stories of these boys. I mean, here's Charlie and the dugout,
Baylor's thrown out the first pitch. We were aware, but
we weren't aware of the real depths of what was happening.

(32:08):
To find out these kids should have died over and
over and over, you know how sick Baylor really was.
You know what I felt along the way is upon
taking this story on, was that now was a responsibility
placed in my hands to do proper justice to Baylor,
to the Teals as a family, to Charlie Peters and

(32:29):
what they went through and to and for that to
be a scope for all these kids who are going
through cancers and these families and not just cancer, but
so many different, you know, horrific childhood diseases and what
that does to families, and you know, not not just
immediate but outside. I mean, we had grandparents involved, we
had nurses, doctors, so so many people get involved with this,

(32:53):
you know, and to see that today the impact Baylor
Teal still has, it's incredible. So that all along, which
I also could appreciate Mark was at the forefront, was
to keep that narrative happening in the best ways and
to keep that magic afloat and to make everyone see
how you know, pointing it really was and it you know,
it wasn't just you know, some initials on a hat.

(33:14):
It went a whole lot.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Deeper than that, no question, And Mark, I know you've
said about the documentary. In Spirit is about bravery in
the face of overwhelming challenges. So how do you hope
this story inspires viewers who also might be facing their
own battles.

Speaker 6 (33:33):
You know, what I hope they can take from it
is that they've got support. Especially That's that's number one thing.
You think about the way these two teams supported these
two families, and that you know, hopefully for families that
are facing this now that they can find you know,

(33:53):
doesn't have to be a baseball team, doesn't have to
be an athletic team at all, but they can find
that their own group that you know, has their back.
And it's amazing what you can do, you know, and
where you can go when you have that kind of support.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, there is something to be said about the support.
And I think too many times we forget that sports
is life and life is sports, and you know, you
can lean on those individuals from a team perspective, and Jake,
you lived it there with that team, but also have
to as much as there is the story about the

(34:29):
unsung heroes, but also Jake, it is still crazy the
dominant performance for South Carolina in those two years. When
you're talking twenty two consecutive postseason wins, and twelve straight
of those wins were in the College World Series.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
So how much do you attribute that, Hey, there.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Was just something, as you talked about, God touched us
in a certain way with these two kids that we
should have not had some of those victories.

Speaker 5 (34:57):
Yes, you know, it's it was miraculous run and what
we have some of you know, someone like Ryan McGee
and a few others saying, Tommy Moody saying, you know,
this is one of the great runs in a last
fifty plus years of any sport. And it's so the
dominance of the baseball was there. And you know what's

(35:18):
funny about that is it was a team during the seasons.
You know, we were a top five team, you know,
but we were on paper underdogs, you know, which is
kind of funny to think about, But in a lot
of these games were quote unquote underdogs, even as defending
national champions.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
So so there was.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
Always sort of a chip on our shoulders as a
team of hey, we got to keep doing this, We
got to keep going and going. But the team itself
was it was a wonderful group of guys, quirky guys.
Ray Tanner had finally come into you know, a new
sort of wave of coaching to allow some looseness, Yeah,
some lightness from the guys and which allowed them to
reach their highest levels. You know, it's funny how Ray

(36:01):
Tanner's evolution as a coach, the evolution of the school's
successes and ultimate national championships. But you know, again, the
dominance of the players was truly something the jams we
got out of over and over and over again for
two years.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
It's hard to.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
Find any more runs where that just happened, you know,
And yeah, for them, you know, we went deep into
games where seemingly it was just meant to be for us.
No matter who the ball was hit to, the play
was going to be made, the pitch was going to
be made, someone was going to find it. And you know,
the teams now stand as one of the great in college.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
History, no question.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
And those teams had some swagger when you're talking about
Jackie Bradley junior and Scott Wingle in yourself, Jake, you know,
so there's it's definitely something to be said.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
You look back, and there's there's Since then, i mean,
ten plus guys have made the Major League, went on
to become World Series Champions All Stars Gold Glove winners,
So you know, we weren't necessarily average Joe's I mean,
the SEC is a real thing, but yeah, it's just
every direction of the story has some incredible stuff happening.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Yeah, and as a Clemson grad, it's sometimes tough for
me to remember those runs that you've had and continued,
There's no question, but I do love the story in itself.
Just again from a story selling storytelling perspective, you guys
have captured everything and brought the emotions and just the feeling,

(37:25):
you know, to that. So Mark and Jake, I can't
thank you enough. I commend you both for being able
to pull this together. And it's absolutely fantastic timing fifteenth
anniversary of the first championship in twenty ten, so why
not have this And we greatly appreciate you guys jumping
on board here and allowing us to dive in a

(37:46):
little bit more behind the scenes of this great documentary
in spirit.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
Thank you, gentlemen, Thank you, yes, thank you so much
guys for having us. It's a genuine treat. And you know,
I know Mark and Mark and I together we were
kind of a for me a first time and mark
of season Vet. We're a power force that you know.
We're real happy to bring this to the screen for.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Everybody, Yes, no question and everybody.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
All you game coop fans and even just sports fans,
you will be entertained. Reminder, the SEC Story documentary In
Spirit debuts on SEC Network Wednesday, May fourteenth at seven pm,
celebrating the back to back national championships in twenty ten
and twenty eleven for the game Cos baseball team, but
two unlikely heroes. You don't want to miss that. Make

(38:30):
sure you check that out, put it on your calendar.

(38:53):
Live from the Ingle Studio and live from the Eagle
Studios in.

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Speaker 3 (39:04):
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So make sure you download the new and improved iHeart
Radio app all right. I thoroughly in enjoyed the conversation
with Mark Kinderman and Jake Williams, just two absolutely fantastic guys,
and the story is incredible. I implore everybody to go

(40:12):
and watch this on Wednesday at seven pm SEC Network.
Bring your tissues, I promise you, because and I'm an
emotional guy. I'll go ahead and tell you ya. I
will cry at movies. I will cry. Oh, Rudy comes
on tears. It's over, who's yours, It's over, it doesn't matter.
I mean, there's all types of things. My wife laughs

(40:32):
at me all the time about those type of situations,
and this will.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Do it as well, So just be prepared.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
But you also get to relive South Carolina and they
were dominant. Yeah, back then, absolutely dominant. And I do remember,
as I joked, Clemson had no answer when it was
in Omaha with South Carolina game Cocks, just absolutely no
answer whatsoever. So it was a special couple of years there,

(40:59):
and even more so from that perspective for the game.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Cox baseball team.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
All Right, but let's take a look at some of
the latest headlines.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
It's only one game player, and that's to take care
of Ben hitting the latest headlines. It's the daily rundown.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
All right.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
We talk about contract extensions a lot in professional sports
with NBA, NFL, but how about on the media side.
Chris Berman contract extension with ESPN that will now have
him part of ESPN family until twenty twenty nine, and

(41:41):
he'll be the very first employee for ESPN to serve
fifty years.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
That's incredible.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
He started in nineteen seventy nine when they launched. Yeah,
I mean that is amazing. And you know, Boomer, everybody
knows Chris Berman and just what he has meant to ESPN.
He's definitely one of those things when we talk about
if I think about ESPN, there's no doubt I think
about Chris Berma.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
He's iconic. He is iconic, He's definitely a face for ESPN.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
And then how about this also the reports are that
rich Eisen is now going to be going back to
ESPN after a two decade hiatus from ESPN real he left,
and I guess there's a new direct to consumer offering

(42:30):
that ESPN is working on and rich Eisen is reportedly
going to be a part of that. Interesting, Okay, good
for him, ESPN pulling people back. And then also the
NFL schedule release continues, and we do know the opener Thursday,
September fourth, as you heard, the Dallas Cowboys and the

(42:51):
philadel Yeah, egos, how you feeling about it?

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Not good?

Speaker 3 (42:55):
You got George Pickens? Oh yes, that's going to be
the savior right. What is interesting knows that this is
the first time that the Cowboys and Eagles are going
to be in the standalone game in a couple of years.
But even more interesting is that Jerry Jones and the
Cowboys have to sit there for that game as they

(43:18):
get their rings, as they get to hoist that Super
Bowl banner. So how much motivation is that going to
be or how much is Philadelphia just gonna love that?
If that doesn't kick Jerry Jones into rear or into gear.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
I don't know what into the gear. Yeah, I don't
know what will oh, I really don't. We'll see how
that plays out. But that is a big time match
up there, and the NFL is very smart being able
to do something like that. And then tonight at seven pm,
the NBA Draft Lottery.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
So this is the season of hope.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
This is the night of hope that maybe one of
these teams will get the number one overall pick, and
it's going to be Cooper Flag from Duke oh that
is guaranteed. And the Charlotte Hornets are sitting there with
a fourteen percent chance against the number one overall pick.
And there's a few other teams sitting there too, But
can the Hornets? Can they somehow get the opportunity of

(44:13):
that number one overall pick. All right, that's some of
the latest headlines, and we will wrap up this Monday
edition of The Richmond Weaver Show presented by Ingles Markets.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Right after this.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
The text line is always open eight six' four triple
seven at ninety five ninety. Three, again that text line
eight six' four triple seven at ninety five at, ninety
three and we Did have chad texting in actually last
week because we were off the Air, on friday as,
we mentioned got Preempted By South. Carolina baseball but the,
text reads please remind us on the fourteenth about that.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Baseball thing, Oh yeah well here. We go i'm.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Reminding you out here On, this monday and then we'll
do it tomorrow and Even on wednesday. As, well chad
we appreciate you texting in right Here On The Richmond
weaver show Presented By. Ingles markets may, The twelve let's
walk back in a little bit.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Of history what happened on. This day let's go back
in history to the moments you might have forgotten and
the ones you'll. Never FORGET it's otd on, this day?

Speaker 2 (45:14):
All right how?

Speaker 3 (45:15):
About this in nineteen, seventy three it was THE sixth
ABA The, aba championship NOT the NBA the aba before they.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Formed there it was.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
The sixth to one with The new jersey nets being
able to GO In. Nbaaba championship nineteen.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Eighty two how? About THIS the.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Usfl was formed in nineteen, eighty two and we saw
right after that like A. Herschel walker oh going there
To The New, jersey GENERALS and i think back to,
that time what WOULD the nfl, Look like what Would
herschel walker's career look like if he doesn't go directly

(45:54):
TO the USFL Or A, jim kelly you know, those
INDIVIDUALS And i i'm disappointed that there was a splinter
of the talent that happens there WITH. The usfl obviously
we KNOW the usfl did not make it. All right
nineteen eighty five we talked ABOUT The nba draft lottery
is tonight With the hornets with a fourteen percent chance

(46:16):
of getting number one. Overall pick nineteen eighty five was
the very first time that they used the, draft lottery
and it Was The New york Knicks Getting patrick ewing,
Number one and there's controversy around That Did david stern
know that he Needed The New york knicks to get
the number one? Overall pick and in nineteen, Ninety Eight
larry bird WAS Named nba coach Of the year as

(46:39):
a rookie. Head coach THAT is otd and that Is
this monday edition Of The Richmond weavers show Percent About.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Ingles markets we'll talk to you tomorrow