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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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All right, all types of things seem to be happening
in a moment's notice. Yes, we have NBA playoffs to
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talk about. The craziness that incurred, that occurred last night ensued,
I should say, with the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Indiana
Pacers and then the Warriors going on the road, the
road Warriors what we'd like to call them, being able
to get the victory against Minnesota. But there is a
caveat to it, as you heard right there at the
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top of the hour, mister Steph Curry.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
That's big, that is big news.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
And we've talked about it, and I can pinpoint so
many times that I have said, the equalizer in basketball
is the three point.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Shot, right, we know that.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Oh yeah, the ultimate equalizer in sports.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Though.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Injuries, oh, without a doubt, and never predict them. We
can never predict them. We don't know how it's going
to play out. And this could be significant for the
Golden State Warriors and Steph Curry. Hamstring injuries it's no joke, yep.
Not easy to come back from. And it's just typically
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one little, one little thing and you re injure it, yep.
And that's what's so crazy about it, and that's why
it's so hard for players to come back in a
short period of time. And knowing that, I mean there's
a sense of urgency in the NBA playoffs. I mean
kind of yeah, yes, I mean we know it's a
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seven game series. You have to win the best out
of you know, the best out of seven. Win four
of those and you can advance. But it's a short
window and with the hamstring injury, you already heard these
going to miss at least a week. So now you're
already behind the eight ball if you're Golden State. Now
you got the victory. So that's huge, oh for Golden
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State to be able to do that, And so will
they be able to do the same type of thing
with Buddy Healed, Jimmy Butler, playoff Jimmy, Jimmy Buckets, all
of those names we want to crown him with. And
then also Draymond Green and the Warriors have a solid lineup.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I think.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So this is a team that can still beat the
Minnesota Timberwolves without Steph, but I don't know how they
truly will be able to do it. And that's why
I'm excited that we'll be able to talk with Jason Temp,
host of Hoops tonight, as he will join us in
the next segment to talk more about the NBA playoffs
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and again just the craziness that we saw with the
Indiana Pacers, right. I mean, I was watching it last night,
had it on in the background. My wife and I
am doing crossword puzzles. Yes, we love crossword puzzles, so
I don't even care. I love it and had it
on in the background, watching it as best I could,
and I was keeping up with it.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Cleveland seemed to be in control.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And it's one of those games where how many times
have we watched in sports that for whatever reason, you
just have the sense, oh, that team's in control. You
just see it playing out on the field, out of
the court, whatever it is, it just seems that team
is in control. And that's why I felt with Cleveland
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last night, like, Okay, they rebounded here, he has pun
intended in game two, and they were able to exert
some of their efficiencies and some of their superiority in
certain aspects of the game over the Pacers.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And so I turned it off at halftime and then.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Just by chance, right before I'm going to bed, let
us look and see what the score is. And sure enough,
Cleveland has a seven point lead with about a minute
to go and like, okay, well there you go, and
then I wake up, Sorry, hey you need eight points.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
The Pacers, they can get it for you. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Well your first your first mistake was turning it off
at halftime and a playoff game, thinking, ah, well, no
they've got it, no doubt. You never know what's going
to happen.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
You never know what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yes, that is the true reality of it from that standpoint.
But we'll talk more about the NBA playoffs with Jason
temp But the Indiana Pacers just continue to put up
some crazy stats, some crazy opportunities as far as what
we haven't seen in the NBA. And I would have
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to say quickly before I moved to the NFL, because
we do need to talk about a trade on the NFL. Oh, yes,
that both of us. I mean, it impacts both of it.
It's so it's so funny. But the thing that I
would have to say with the NBA playoffs, and we
can talk about the long regular season and how I
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truly believe it needs to be short, and I think
there's something to be said about the load management in
terms of how the players and even the coaching staff
they're almost indicating what the season should look like. Sixty
six to sixty eight games, right, that's basically what some
of these players play in terms of just during the
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season without any injuries, with this whole load management, and
the NBA has come out and says you have to
play at least sixty six games to be eligible for
awards right at the end of the year. So they're
even telling you something from that standpoint. But as much
as we've talked about how the NBA can be boring
at times because of the long season, these NBA playoffs
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they have been fantastic. Now we've had some blowouts, now
I understand that.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
But that's part of it.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
But we've had a lot of absolutely fantastic game. Think
about this. We had Aaron Gordon's game winning dunk, yep,
a game winning dunk right off of a missshot, and
that was on April twenty six. April twenty ninth, that's
when we have Tyre's Halliburton and his game winning layup
against the Bucks and his dad going crazy in the
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face of Giannis. Yes, so we do have that excitement.
Then you've got Jalen Brunson's three on May the first
then on May the fifth, You've got Aaron Gordon's three
pointer yep to win for the Nuggets. And then last
night you had Tyrese Haliburton's game winning three against the Cavaliers.
I mean, we've had some fantastic finishes in a week
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span or so, and that's something that I think you
start to realize with the NBA, that these guys are
so good. These games are different in the playoffs, and
I'm excited about the NBA playoffs and the brackets that
we have and who can advance. I think this is
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a special playoff run right now in.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
The postseason for the NBA.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Yeah, I'd agree with that, and I would I would
say even further than that. I don't it kind of
seems like it's funny comparing this to what we talked
about with the college football playoffs not too long ago.
Oh we don't like these blowouts and what are we
doing here? It kind of feels like the NBA hasn't
figured out a little bit. They their teams are there
and it doesn't matter. Like you look at like Cleveland,
it's like, Oh, they don't really have a whole lot
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of veterans on the roster that have really gone to
the playoffs, and like you talk about experience versus you know,
inexperience and first time being there and all that, they're
still playing great and you're still having these close games.
I don't know, man, it makes for a really great
experience for the fans.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
For the fans, yes, and at the end of the day,
fans want to see engaging, entertaining right games. Of course,
if you're a fan, you want your team to win.
Oh well, I mean, of course, and we.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Do know that.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
And I just think though that we're in this era
right now where we almost overanalyze so much any things,
and I look in the mirror, I'm I'm part of
it too. But it's something to be said about just
being able to sit back and enjoy a game, right
and watch it and let it play out. And I
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think there's something to be said of not trying to
set expectations, and we do that so often, and I'm
I do that also.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
It's hard not to. I just want a good game,
you know, or.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Hey, I want this team to win whatever it is, right,
just sit back and enjoy it. And I think that's
what you can do right now with NBA playoffs. But
we'll talk with Jason Temp, host of Hoops Tonight, as
he will join us the next segment, as he does
each and every Wednesday. All right, in the NFL, we
heard it, Are you crazy?
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Oh yeah, the Dallas Cowboys. Here we go, Jerry, Yes,
all right, the Dallas Cowboys have agreed to terms with
the Pittsburgh Steelers to acquire wide receiver George Pickens and
a twenty twenty seven sixth round pick from the Steelers
in exchange for a twenty twenty six third round pick
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and a twenty twenty seven fifth round pick.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Right, so there you go.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Initially, it's okay, we know Cowboys need a wide receiver, right,
that was one of their holes coming into the draft
and into free agency. Hey, can you give Dak Prescott
some more weapons? Can you have somebody on the other
side of CD Lamb because he's getting double teamed right
all the time, right, and we need a go to
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type of guy.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
What is George Pickens?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
The guy.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
If you're if you're looking at it from a raw
talent perspective, he is that guy to go opposite that guy.
If you want to pull somebody off of CD Lamb talent,
well you have to respect George Pickens, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, uh, you tell me it as part of the
fan base, mister Pittsburgh Steeler.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Look, I I have a tremendous respect for the talent
that George Pickens has. I mean, he is a freak athlete.
The way he can contort his body when he goes
up for some of these catches, he is insane. But
we also have to acknowledge the fact that the only
thing that matters to George Pickens is George Pickens. Hmmm,
or at least. Look, I don't know the guy personally.
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It just that's what it seems like it comes across
when you watch the tape and you watch him on
the field. I've seen too many times the Steelers walk
away with a victory with a touchdown to Deontay Johnson
that George Pickens is sulking on the sideline during a win. Yeah,
you won the game. I get that you didn't get fed,
but you guys won, And ultimately, that's what you're out
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there to do. You're out there to go out there.
You're gonna win games. You go to the playoffs, you
go to the super Bowl, you win the Super Bowl.
George Pickens it feels like to me, the mentality is
I've got to pad my stats. It's not about the
wide receiver or it's not about the like the team.
And that's the biggest critique that I've always had with
George Pickens. I don't care about the crashouts where he's
fighting guys and whatever. That's a lot of rod receivers,
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a lot of cornerbacks and stuff to do that. Anyways,
there's nothing, Yeah, but it is the fact that you
get that great talent, you get the fifty to fifty balls.
He goes up and he gets those, and that's great.
Where's the route running, where's the blocking, where's the other
things that help come into play to let a team win.
There's more to it and you don't get a lot
of that with George Pickens. And he's great when he's great,
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and when he's one.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Ramifications is where I'm I've got the big question mark, right.
And you and I were texting back and forth when
you sent me the news because I didn't see it initially,
and it's the I f yes, the what if for
George Pickens and what if he is matured and he's
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ready to be a team player, right, watch out. He's
got a high ceiling, which you talked about. I think so, yes,
But what if he's that headache in the locker room?
And do the Cowboys need another headache in the locker room?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
That's a great question.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
No, they don't, because they're already dealing with dysfunction from
Jerry Jones at times. And so is this also Jerry
Jones saying all right, boys, I'm going to fix him?
Like is he does he have the ego that hey,
if he comes to the Dallas Cowboys right then yes,
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he will be a change person because that's how we
run things here in Dallas.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Well, and let's say he does. Let's say it works out.
I think the biggest ramification that nobody is talking about
right now. You just paid Dax sixty million dollars. You
just paid Ceed Lamb. You gotta pay Michah Parsons. George
Pickens is on the last year of his deal. Are
you gonna play that out? Let him play that out?
Are you gonna let him hit free agency? Okay, you
gave up a third rounder for a five month rental.
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Are you going to pay George Pickens because he's gonna
want thirty million a year. Are you gonna pay him
that much? Is he worth that much? If he's, If
he is, you pay him. What about Michael Parsons, your
superstar pass rusher that has yet to be paid?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Jerry Jones paid I know, and Jerry Jones we know
he will not preemptively do it. Wait till the value
gets as high as it is as it can be,
and then he'll try to sign.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
And that's just absolutely absurd.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
All right.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
This is a wild stat though, from Warren Sharp Sharp Football.
Dak Prescott over the last two years number one in
the most passing yards on fifteen or more yard go routes,
number two most attempts on fifteen or more.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yard go routes. That's in in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
George Pickens the last two years ranked in the NFL
number one most receiving yards on fifteen or more yard
go routes and number two most catches on fifteen or
more yard go routes.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
That sounds like a match made.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
And so there, Hey, I don't know, maybe there's something
that Dak Prescott likes these go routes. Yeah, and it
looks like George Pickens likes these go routes.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
So go George.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Yeah, hey, look and if he gets fed, he's great.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, that's the thing. But what happens we know it
Trey adversity hits during a season, during a game, and
then that's where we ask what if that happens? Yep,
and we'll see with George Pickens. Let us know your thoughts.
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You can join the conversation eight six four two four
zero five four eight zero. But when we come back,
we'll be talking with mister Jason Temp, host of Hoops Tonight.
Are the Warriors done now that Steph Curry is injured
with the hamstring?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Much more? Right after this?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
More NBA action tonight, starting at seven pm the Knicks
and the Celtics on tn T in Game two of
that series, and the Nuggets and Thunder to follow at
nine thirty pm, also on TNT as the Nuggets sitting
there with a one to zero lead in that series,
trying to shock Okc the Thunder there, the favorite to
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come out of the West, but now down one to Jokic. Yes,
the yokre the Yoker.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
See that's what I'm talking about. I keep messing up.
I want to say Jokic instead of the Joker. I'm
telling you so many different names that we have for
the Joker that you get tripped up, but we can't
deny his greatness as he does try to showcase just
again how good he is coming off of that forty
two point and twenty two rebound effort against OKC in
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that third I mean, in that first game of this series.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
But we're going to get smarter right now.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Here on the Richmond Weavers Show presented by Ingles Markets,
as we will head out and talk with mister Jason Temp,
host of Hoops Tonight and Jason, yes you heard me
with the tongue twist there with the Nicola Jokic, I
can't decide if I want him to call him the
Joker or the Jokic. I don't even know how to
describe it. But one thing we do know that we're
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almost running out of superlatives for the Joker just because
of how good he is and he's showcasing it once
again in this NBA Playoffs.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yeah. Well, first of all, I'm totally fine with Yoker.
I think completely fine acceptable nicknames. The second thing is
that I got a little bit of like a PTSD
when you told me about the start times for tonight's game.
I My wife and I used to live in Charlotte,
and I remember watching the NBA playoffs and those those
nine thirty hip hops could be brutal, brutal.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yes, you are so fortunate, Jason that you're on Pacific time,
that you have the ability to your late game starts
at six thirty.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Sign me up for that. I'm all about that.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Oh yeah, like I I still I'm getting off of
work at around eleven thirty PM here every night. I
can't even imagine that was two thirty. That would just
be a whole other bear. But yeah, Nicoley Okitch, I thought,
you know, it had been a while, Richmond since we
had seen one of those truly great playoff performances. Yes,
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I think that the especially when you factor in like
the stakes, and ultimately a big part of it'll be
whether or not he wins the series, because for instance,
he had a similar type of incredible game in Game
five at home against Minnesota last year, but they ended
up losing. But I'd argue considering on the road, considering
the types of performances that he was getting in terms
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of offensive contribution from his co stars, like in ok
See against the team that is historically good. Statistically, I've
personally been a little lower on Oka See than the masses.
But that's a very very good team on the road
in a game that fundamentally alters the feel of the series,
and he just reached. It's a level that we haven't
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seen in a very long time. And you know, you know, Richmond,
these are my favorite moments as a basketball fan is
when you see a great transcend circumstance and reach a
level out of desperation that you've never seen. I think
back to Steph game four in Boston on the road, right,
no doubt, to Evander Rant against the Bucks in twenty
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twenty one. I think back to like Lebron James being
against the Warriors in twenty eighteen, or any of his
three games that he played at the tail end of
the two six finals. Like, I just love seeing stars
dig deep and reach a level that no one can
even were You almost are like surprising yourself with how
you're performing. And like Jokich last night or in that
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game two nights ago, straight up through sheer force of
will sole a victory from the Jaws, is this it
was absolutely incredible?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, it really wasn't I know, Aaron Gordon is obviously
the guy who hits the game winning shot there, but
it was Jokic that put them in that position because
of that performance. And looking now at game two, is
he too much for Okac? I mean, will they be
able to go too bigs on him? Or is this
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just a scenario that you're even talking about. Back is
against the wall for Jokic And maybe we're starting to
see him and we've seen the clips. He's almost a
player coach right now with guys on the bench, how
they're just so engaged and in lock with the with
Joker right now that maybe Oka see you know, depending
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on what the adjustments they can do, Jason, he just
might be too much for him.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Yeah. You know, I always on my rewatch of a
playoff game, I always get a little bit more information
than when you're watching live because there's always just so
many moving parts and he's to pour over possession after
possession after the fact. And when I went to watch
the films, I was expecting to see more of like, oh,
you know, Denver just pulled on their classic. You know,
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they hung around and then they made a bunch of
plays late and stole it. When I went back and
rewatched the game. There are some realities about this particular matchup,
Like I do think Oklahoma City can play substantially better
on offense. Yeah, a bunch of their key shooters shot
really poorly. Isaiah Joe struggled to hit shots. Day Dub
had yet another game as a young super a young
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star in this league where he was kind of unable
to produce the way his team needed into, which I
think is some of the stuff that we've talked about
over the course of this season as a reality with Thunder.
With the Thunder, they're just young. They're young, and they're
inexperienced chet as well, two cues mistakes down the stretch.
There's a lot that they can clean up, especially on offense.
They ran into a lot of the same problems they
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were into against Dallas last year with just getting into
the paint and taking highly tested tunes instead of moving
the ball around and getting quality shots. But on the
other end of the floor, I don't see anything that
Oklahoma City can do with Yokich. The footage is insane. Richmond.
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He's so much bigger than everybody. And while Hartenstein is
a good defensive player, and while he's stronger than most centers.
He's not Zubas, He's not like the type of big
body that can actually force Yo Kitchen too some uncomfortable
positions that the thunder force some turnovers, and they you know,
Yokich got caught off guard by a couple of elements
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of physicality, especially in the first half, but ultimately they
cannot put Chat on him. They can't put anybody else
on him. And when they put Hardenstein on him, all
they have to do is run a two main game
with Jamal Murray and force a switch. And once they
force the switch, he just gets lou dord or whoever
is aux Caruso right there at the top of the
key and he can just rumble down the middle of
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the floor. And the big problem is the offensive glass.
Even if they can force Yokich into a mist between
Aaron Gordon, Christian Brown, Russ Westperkin, they're just so damn
big as they're working around the rim off of Jokic
that Okac has almost no chance to keep them off
the offensive glass. And so while I think there are
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some opportunities for Okse to improve offensively and they will
win games in the series off of that, and off
of forcing gurnovers and getting out in transition. I left
my game one film session feeling like Denver's gonna win
the series. Wow, I think they present some unsolvable problems
for Oklahoma City's defense.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
That's it, And again I think there's something to be
said just it all's predicated on Jokic and how it's
a domino effect based on his skill set and taking
advantage of those, especially against a team like ok See.
Jason Timf is our guest here. Follow all of his
work on hoops tonight. Make sure you subscribed to his
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YouTube channel. You will get smarter about the NBA, I
promise you. All Right, Jason, let's stay in the West
because big news out of that other series going on
with the Warriors and the Wolves.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yes, the Warriors get to win.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
On the road and they were able to handle Minnesota,
But the big storyline is Steph Curry and the hamstring injury.
Your thoughts on how that can impact this series and
can Steff even come back?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Man? I so I dealt with a hamstring injury the
first year that I was trying to play college basketball.
I was a second year guy and out of high school.
And I was trying to walk on a junior college
and I sprained a strained my hamstring in the middle
of the training camp, like the tryouts for the team
or whatever, and so I had to delay that process
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an additional year before I actually started playing in my
third year. But in that that hamstring strain process, I
reinjured it a few times, yes, and became kind of
familiar with the ways that it impacts your explosion. And
I was very much a downhill athlete, like a person
who relied on my ability to move. And so one
of the things that happens with the hamstring is it's
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not like a It's not like an ankle sprain where
you can play through some discomfort or a knee sprain
or pennonitis or anything along those lines. This is quite
literally if you try to explode, it is so painful
that you literally can't move your body. It's not an
injury you can play through. So he needs to get
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to the point where there's a he like enough healing
done to where he can actually explode forward and backward
side decides the way he's gonna need to to actually
succeed in the series. And here's the thing. Richmond. There's
no point in rushing him back because even if it
helps you win one particular game, you've got to hold
up for another three rounds. So the thing that's gonna
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be tricky here is I think the best case scenario
to get him on the court in a manner that
wouldn't just be for you know, like if it's the
NBA Finals, maybe you rush him back for a Game four,
a Game three, because it's not so much about him
surviving a month and a half of that basketball, but
just getting through a handful of games. You needed him
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to get through a month and a half of basketball.
And so that game six, there's three full calendar days
off in between Game five and Game six, which means
that that's Sunday to eighteenth. Today is the seventh. So
if you can win one game between now and then,
let's just say those two games in Golden State game three,
in game four, you get one of those. Game six
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goes back to Minnesota at two to three with Minnesota
having a lead, but Steph gets twelve old days off,
and as long as you win those two games, you're
gonna get a little bit of time off before the
conference finals. You get a little bit time off before
the NBA Finals, it's possible for him to stay on
the floor, but it's a lot to ask to win
against that team. I thought it was very important that
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they had some margin before Steph went down. Yeah, I
think if that game is tied, when Steph goes down,
I think Golden State almost certainly loses it. And there
are some realities to the different matchup. Like I actually
felt pretty strongly going into that series that Golden State
was going to win because of the difference in their
defense between the Lakers defense, and then also just their
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ball and player movement and how different that is for
Minnesota's defense. And I thought a lot of that stuff
showed Richmond, Like I thought last night, you saw a
lot of the things that I was talking about in
terms of their ball and their ability to confuse Anthony
Edwards and the way they kept getting open looks for
guys like Buddy Heal just because of their ball and
player movement. But I'm just having a hard time seeing
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them winning the series now because it's just such a
thin line to walk between winning another game without step
Yes and somehow getting him back and having to win
a pivot'll game stick to and a Game seven on
the road in Minnesota with Steth coming off of a
handstring hamstring strain. It just it just feels like a
long shot to me, Richmond.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I think so too, Jason. And it's a Grade one.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
So this is a an injury that you can continue
to aggravate as you talked about, Jason, because I've done
the same thing with the hamstring injury. You think you're
over it, and then just that one move that you make,
then all of a sudden, you're right back, almost even
in a worst case scenario there for your playing ability
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and especially for playing at that type of level. And
we know that Seth Curry, he his game is so
dependent on him trying to find space and him the
running man so to speak, you know, being able to
exploit defenses in getting just a little bit of gap.
From that perspective, but Jason temp is our guest here.
Check out all of his work on Hoops Tonight again.
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Subscribe to his YouTube channel, and also you can listen
to the audio version wherever you get your podcast. All right,
we're gonna switch to the East then, Jason and I
want to save the Pacers cav series until the end
because that is just a crazy series already with some
amazing finishes. But what about the Nixon Celtics. We saw
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the Celtics fifteen of sixty from the three point line,
Jason again, fifteen of sixty. It's almost unheard of when
you I mean, I have to almost say it like
three different times to realize that that's exactly a stat
that happened. So how much from your perspective watching the
film now, is it just a bad shooting night that
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the Celtics had and they just tried to shoot themselves
out of that hole? Or was there more about it
that the Knicks. They seem to come out there and
were very physical and very intense defensively.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
So I want to take the Knicks and set them
to the side for a second, because there is absolutely
an element of this where they played a very good
basketball game and in some unfortunate circumstances too, because I
thought Karl Anthony Town's got in some foul trouble that
was kind of bs early in the game, and then
you had to hack a Mitchell Robinson thing going on
that kind of blowed down their offense in the second quarter.
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But I want to focus on the Celtics for a second,
because I think it's incredibly frustrating. I was so annoyed
with Boston and after that game on so many different levels.
On the one level, just the way they played in
the second half, which we'll get to in a second,
and then on the second level, Joe Mizzoola of the
day after like doggedly just emphasizing that they that he
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loved the shots they got, when, like Richmond, it is
impossible for you to rewatch that second half of that game,
and I actually liked the shots. I think I like
legitimately heeded two thirds of the shots in the second half.
There were sometimes five six possessions in a row where
the ball never got inside the three point line. There's
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almost too much of an empowerment down the roster for
everybody to have a green light to where you just
get these ridiculous holiday three point attempts that like are
some of the dumbest shots you will ever see a
basketball player take. The Jason Tatum just repeatedly against switches,
settling for his pull up jump shot even though he
was missing by feet, like not just outside the room.
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They hit multiple misses in that second half. Three of
them were the all hit the backboard first before it
hit the rim, he was thrown up ricks and he
couldn't make the adjustment to start trying to get something
closer to the rim. It was. It was just a
pitifull performance from the standpoint of like disappoint and execution
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on the offensive end of the floor. And I was
just so disappointed in Joe Missoula not owning up and
like putting the players on the spot and being like,
we've played dumb basketball in the second half. We are
not going to win the championship unless we play smarter basketball,
like just some basic stuff like that. So I do
think the Celtics will play better. They will take bas
they will pressure the rim more set out a side
note to the Knicks. There were a couple of things
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that they did that I thought helped get them into
some positions for success. One, they just started switching with
Brunson and kat Moore. And this is important because it
takes away the baked in openings that come from screening
actions when you don't switch. So, for instance, if you
run a drop coverage with Karl Anthony Towns, meaning that
he just contains the ball coming off of the screen
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while you have the on ball defender chase over the top.
It leaves the pop wide open every single time, which
is a problem because now you're in a driving kick
situation with a wide open shooter, and that's just when
Boston will pick you apart. Boston does make their wide
open catch and shoot threes all the time. That's not
why they lost. That's the funny thing about Joe Mizula
talking about missing shots. They made the open ones, they
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missed the dumb ones. But the second piece is a
Jalen Brunson when he hetches and recovers, same sort of
thing when he hedges that puts two on the ball.
Someone can slip out of it. The game tying layup
that Drew Holliday had that sent the game to over
was a hedge and recover sequence just like that. And
that was a random example of them just kind of
something within the game plan that I disagreed with. But
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for the most part down the stretch, they just switched
with Brunson and Cat and asked those guys to guard
the ball, and they did a very good job. Brunson
stonewalls too. Jason Tatum ISOs. He beat Orford out of
post ups twice Brunson was competing his butt off on
d and then Pat He was still giving up some
drible penetration. But the backside defense and the rotations from
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og And and Obi and Josh Hart McHale Bridges was just
so sharp. They were running on missus NonStop. And then
Jalen Brunson found a matchup that he likes and then
Jalen Brunson basketball, that's right, prod's your defense until he
finds a guy that's like, ooh, I can get buckets
on this guy. And in that game, and in that
game it was Al Horford and he just started going
at him down the stretch and they were able to
consistently generate quality shots out of it. And so, yes,
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the Knicks did play really well, but the Celtics just
didn't do themselves any favors. And I thought they played
well below their capability. I do believe that the Celtics
will win this this probably in six games, but it
was just a frustrating. It was a frustrating night to watch.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Well.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
There were so many fans that were frustrated because they
kept just shooting the threes that you talked about, and
those bad threes and It was very interesting with Missoula
not taking responsibility and he even I almost thought he
was joking when he was saying that that he was,
you know, happy with some of those shots or most
of those shots. But now you talked about Al Horford playing.
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Now part of that I would suspect because of the
Porzingis injury. So how impactful could that be for the Celtics?
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Though, I think Gorford just a better player than Porzingis.
Porzingis is a guy that, like he can do a
couple of things pretty well in certain matchups. He can
protect the rim, meaning like if you've got a big
who can't space the floor of the way Cat does
and you can afford to like sit in back in
boss screen actions, he can be a very valuable defensive
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player and a drop coverage. Is a better rim protector
than Horford in that sense, and he's a better shooter
in my opinion, especially further out above the break, which
I think provides special spacing value because you're going to
put a bigger body on him, and if he can
drag a bigger body away from the basket, there's real
value there. He can post switches in some situations and
score on small guys when they run screening action with him,
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but it's all inconsistent, like that drop coverage piece doesn't
matter against Cat because they're spacing the floor. Like it's
really only valuable when Mitchell Robinson's on the floor. You
have the switch beating element of it. He's just not
doing a good job of that. In the series. The
Knicks start beating him up on those switches and he's
not getting good shots. And so if he's not just
hitting every single catching shoo three, he's taking all of
a sudden, his value proposition kind of tanks a little bit.
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But with Horford the substantially higher floor, he's a much
better switch defender, meaning he can switch ball screens and
get out on guards and actually guard defably well. Jalen
Brunson notwithstanding, and he just in general is a more
versatile player on both ends of the floor and moves
quicker through their spacing and they're driving kick actions. He's
a better driving kick player in general. And so while
porzengis being down in terms of his play and his
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illness is certainly a hit in terms of talent for Celtics,
it shouldn't a bearing on their ability to win this series.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, and I think there is something to be said
that you are the defending NBA champions, so you better
be able to circle the wagons and take care of
the knicks in this series. He's because I think there's
something to be said if Celtics go out in this series.
There's not going to be some happy fans there in Boston,
that's for certain. As we are wrapping up with Jason Temp,
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host of Hoops Tonight again, you can subscribe to his
YouTube channel and you can get smarter about the NBA
as we are wrapping up here, So Jason, do need
to talk about the Pacers and the Calves though? How
good have the Pacers been in late game execution and
even just including the fourth quarter of the past two
games against the Calves being able to outscore them in
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the fourth quarter and then obviously being able to hit
some big time shots down the stretch as Halliburton gets
the game winning three last night.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
I'm talking about this on my show last night. But
like I think the theme for this Pacers team is
their relentless, like never ending attack. Yes, in every phase
of the game they have speed. Speed is their advantage,
right like cot tires Caliburn's super fast and Hards fast
and you Smith is super fast, Sakama is fast, Teach
McConnell's superst Ben Mathurn is super fast, Ben Shepard is
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super fast. They just have a lot of speed on
the ground, and so the way they weaponize that is
they utilize that speed and every fastest of the game.
So defense ball pressure, they're going to pick you up
full court every single possession of the entire game. In rotation,
they're going to chase you off the three point line
and make you comfortable there. Right, So those are the
ways they weaponize their speed on deep and like even
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with the way they protect Tyry's Haliburton, and they're like
they're not going to switch Tyry's Aliburton. They're gonna edde
and recover. And he's very good at the hedge and
recover because he's fast and he will get a lot
of steals in and he's actually a better defensive playmaker
than he gets credit for. And then on the offensive
end of the flour, no matter what you're doing, like
like you can you can get a bucket that puts
you up twenty in the in the late third quarter.
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And why while some teams would hang their head and
either call it time out or like just kind of
dribble the ball before and take a bad shot because
they're pouting because they're losing. Every single time, the Pacers
will just take the ball out of the net, inbound it,
run it up the floor as quick as possible, and
try to get an easy quick shot.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yes, and I stop you.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
They're going to quickly get into their action and run
their ball screens and move the ball side to side
and drive and kick, and they're gonna get a bucket.
And then they're going to pick you up full court
right out of bounds, because now the leads down to eighteen,
and if you make two more mistakes and they get
two more runouts, it's a fourteen point game. And it's
fundamentally different. And that's literally how they keep winning these games,
like the game against the Bucks in game five, or
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especially this Calves game in game two. They just relentlessly
keep playing Pacers basketball, and they count on you letting
go of the rope. And even though the Calves did
a great job stiff arming those Indiana runs, Max Drews
hits a big three to put them up seven. How
do they keep how do they get back in the game.
It's these lightning quick attacks from Tyree's Haliburton too easy
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driving layups. It's a lightning quick drive from Pascal Siakram
for a little scooped layup. It's picking the ball up
full court, forcing turnovers by getting in Donno Mitchell's path
as he runs you over and commits an offensive foul.
All of the ball pressure off ball that caused that
turnover when Max Strus threw the ball away attacking the
offensive glass, Aaron Nee Smith getting in there and just
dunking all over Donovan Mitchell coming from the top of
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the key, Miles Turner having to tap out rebound that
led to the game winner that Tyres Halliburton had. It's
the same attack except for the Cabs hung onto the
rope until there were forty seconds left in the game.
They and they made a bunch of those mistakes and
rapid secession and they ended up losing it. Honestly, is remarkable, Richmond,
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Like you, in order to beat the Pacers, you just
have to be so disciplined for forty eight minutes because
they never stopped coming at you. And you know, I
think in a lot of ways they are now the
idealized version of what they were supposed to be, which
is everyone's gotten a little better. Miles Turner's playing the
best basketball of his career. Fiakim's playing really well. Aaron
Ne Smith has made legitimate improvements in every facet of
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his games. Tyree's Halliburton is back playing at the level
he was playing before he got hurt. Last year. They
were really good. And Richmond, they're starting to like look
to me like a sneaky threat to win.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yes, no question that they've got that look. And to
your point, Jason, yes, it's forty eight minutes that you
have to play, not forty seven minutes and thirty seconds
so against the Pacers, because we've seen they can score
eight points and thirty seconds like nobody's business. All right, Jason,
we know you got to run. Thank you so much
for joining us here today, and look forward to talking
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to you next Wednesday as we talk even more NBA
playoffs and who knows what craziness we will see.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Thank you, sir, It's always so much fun.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Richmon, we'll see you next week, buddy, Yes.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Sir, that is Jason Temp, host of Hoops Tonight again.
Go check out his YouTube channel. Yeah, I'm telling you
he does such a great job. And again aft directly
after the game you can catch up on all of
the highlights from the game that he breaks down, and
then the in depth analysis that.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
He does with the game review is even better.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
So go check out all of his work hoops tonight
and get it wherever you get your podcast. All right,
we're running out of time here on the Wednesday edition
of the Richmond Weaver Show presented by Ingles Markets.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Got to hit this break back right after this.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Live from the Ingles studios in downtown at Greenville, right
here on North Main Street. This is the Wednesday edition
of the Richmond Weavers Show, presented by our good friends
at Ingles Markets. And I cannot talk today. We're having
a little bit of problem with three. The firing of
the synapses here, my neurons whatever, just brain's not telling
(41:31):
the lips to move properly, or you're.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
Still just dumbfounded on the Jerry Jones move.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
That could be that definitely could be something to it.
For certain, I don't know how that's going to play out,
but we'll see. Yeah it is. It's one of those
it's the what IFFs, all right, it's the what ifs.
That's the reality of it. All right, Let's take a
look at some of the latest headlines.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
It's only one game, and that's.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
To take care of men.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Hitting the latest headlines. It's the daily rundown.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
All right.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
I am excited to talk about a new documentary that's
coming out on SEC Network. It's called In Spirit and
it follows the story behind South Carolina's baseball championship runs
back in twenty ten and two thousand and eleven, where
they had two special teammates that were there by their sides,
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two boys, Charlie Peters and Baylor Teel, both that were
going undergoing cancer treatment and ultimately became the heart and
soul of the team as they battled through their trials. Obviously,
the team battled through their own seasons trying to win
the NCAA championship there in baseball. So I'm excited. On Friday,
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we're actually going to be talking to the director and
producer of this documentary, Mark Kinderman, and Jake Williams will
be joining us on Friday, so I'm really excited to
talk about that's all.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
This debuts on May.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
The fourteenth on the SEC Network. So all you South
Carolina fans, get ready for that. I think that's going
to be a special way to remember that those two
special seasons, back to back national championships there with Ray
Tanner at the helm.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
All right, how about this and Clemson news? Yes, did
you see the news yesterday?
Speaker 2 (43:19):
We didn't get to talk about it, but Clemson football
signed a deal twelve game series with Notre Dame in football, Yeah,
I did see.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
It's like every other year there, Yes, our home and
away series. I love it.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Let's continue those type of games, yea in college football,
that's what we want.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
I know.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
It's it's already a thorn.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
In some people's sides because Notre Dame pseudo acc right, right,
they get to pick and shoes basically, you know what
they want. So it'll be interesting to see how that
plays out in the coming years because I do think
that it's not going to matter, right, They're not going
to be conferences or we'll have a super conference, super
division and whatever it is in college football. And speaking
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of that, how about this news came out earlier today.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
According to Ross Dellinger of Yahoo.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Sports, President Donald Trump is making plans to create a
Presidential Commission to study college sports, which is a landmark
moment in the industry, and the Commission is charged with
finding solutions to the unregulated landscape of college athletics.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Right now, Oh.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Interesting, Okay, so hey, getting the ball roll in, get
some people that are smart, getting them together and understanding
that you need some organization, you need some structure, and
you can have some regulations.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
You can and it can work.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
All right.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
That's some of the latest headlines, and we'll wrap up
this Wednesday edition of The Richmond Weaver Show presented by
Ingles Markets right after this.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
All right, For the.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
First time in NBA history, yes, we did have all
four of the conference semifinal games series I should say
start with a road loss, not all four home teams,
Oh yes, or I should say a home loss by
all four home teams.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
There.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
And it's also the first time in NBA history that
the Conference Semifinals have started with five straight road wins,
as the Pacers got a second road win last night
right over the Cavaliers.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
And you give the.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
You need eight points, just talk to the Indiana Pacers,
right because I do love that they put out on
social media a graphic showing that they were able to
score eight points in thirty three seconds, you know last night,
and then eight points and forty seven seconds against the
Bucks or just vice versa of that in terms of time,
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but yeah, that's absolutely crazy and in terms of endings
there for the Calves and Pacers games.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
And again more NBA action tonight.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
And also tomorrow in our golf segment inside the Ropes,
we will be talking with Bryson Nimmer, former Clemson golfer
and who just got his first Corn Ferry Tour victory
at Tuloom Championship down in Mexico. So definitely looking forward
to talking to him. As it is May the seventh,
so we can skip the music because we were running
out of time. Mister Falco, it is OTD And how
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about this In nineteen sixty nine, it was the very
first ABA or excuse me, the second ABA Championship where
Oakland would beat the Indiana Pacers before the Pacers.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Went to the NBA.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yes, And in nineteen eighty nine, Michael Jordan, oh my gosh,
I remember watching this live would hit the eighteen foot
shot over Craig Elo to give the Bulls a one
oh one, one hundred victory and the sighting game five
of the first round in the Eastern Conference. And in
nineteen ninety five, how about this for the Indiana Pacers,
Reggie Miller would score eight points and nine seconds to
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beat the Knicks. One of the greatest feats I've ever
seen in basketball. That's OTD and that is the Wednesday
edition of The Richmond her Show presented by Ingles Markets.
We'll talk to you tomorrow.