The Richmond Weaver Show 2025-6-11

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Exploring the latest headlines and in depth conversations. It's the
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Roll this Wednesday right here on one O four nine
Fox Sports Upstate. This is the Wednesday edition of The
Richmond Weaver Show presented by Ingles Markets. And we are
in full force, mister Trey Falco behind the board and
behind the mic as usual. NBA Finals tonight, right game three,
so we will be talking with Jason temp host of

(00:41):
Hoops Tonight. He'll be joining us in the second segment
so we can get smarter about the NBA. And I'm
really curious because I was thinking about this and going
back to Game one with Indiana and the craziness that happened.
Tyre's Halliburton hitting the big shot there with point three
three seconds to go, and that was the only time

(01:04):
that Indiana had a lead in that game. They led
that game for less than one second.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
They like to play it close, they do, and that's
all that matters.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
It's all the matters, doesn't matter how many minutes you
lead the game, it only matters when those zeros show
up on the scoreboard.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Ye are you in the lead at that point?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
And they had nineteen turnovers in the first half, jeez,
and they were still able to win that game. But
I was thinking about this, because we talked about it yesterday,
that this is a very important game. Oh yeah for Indiana. Yes,
I think this is one of those scenarios where it's
in must win type of situation for Indiana to continue

(01:51):
that momentum. And there's almost would have Indiana fans would
they have rather if you're going to win a game,
they're in OKAC because you did your job right, you
did what you were supposed to do. You're supposed to split.
But would you rather win game one or game two?
So I think there's something to be said about winning
game two. And then you've got that momentum heading into

(02:14):
game three right at home where it was almost like
a letdown after you steal that win, and then OKC
comes out and puts the hammer down and beat you
by sixteen points in that second game. And it's almost
reminiscent for me back in two thousand and one when
we saw an Alan Iverson led Philadelphia seventy six ers

(02:37):
win against the LA Lakers, who were much more dominant,
oh yeah, than the seventy six ers. And the seventy
six ers were a team that they weren't even supposed
to make the NBA Finals that year, right, Alan Iverson
led them, and he scores forty eight points in the
first game. He has a magical run there in the
first game, and that was it. Yep, And that's all

(02:59):
we saw of this seventy six ers because the Lakers
came back out and said, all right, here's Game two
and then now we're going to continue the momentum because
we're that much better than you are. And I'm curious
if that's what we're going to see with OKC in
Indiana in this series. Is this reminiscent of that two

(03:19):
thousand and one NBA Finals? But I say that, but
this is the Indiana Pacers well, and to your point,
somehow they keep finding ways to win. And that's what's
crazy when you think about the Indiana Pacers. Oh yeah,
without a doubt. You know, I don't think you can
rule out it.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
I don't want to say a fluke, but a flash
in the pan may be more of an apt way
to describe game one if it does end up going
the way of you know, the Allen Iverson led team.
Is it a little bit of a flash in the
pan from this Pacers team. But again, I feel like
we keep seeing over and over time and time again
throughout this entire playoff, just one the Pacers are finding

(04:02):
ways there at the very end to just close that
gap and win. And I don't know, I wouldn't be surprised.
Now to your point, I would probably rather win Game
two than Game one. Right now, you've got a little
bit of momentum working against you, especially if you lose
this game.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
That's huge. It's huge, but anything can happen.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, But to your point, I think you summed it
up really well earlier in the playoffs when Indiana was
quote unquote able to steal that game right in Madison
Square Garden, that crazy comeback that they had, But it
would have been a moot point if they lose that series,
right Yeah, who cares? So if they lose this series,
game one is irrelevant and it's almost a sweep if

(04:43):
they you know, this gentleman's sweep could occur with OKC
And I'm curious to get some thoughts from Jason temp
and we know initially he had already said that there's
no shot for Indiana to win this series. He did,
now they might win a game, and they have and
now will we see, okay, see be able to put
the throttle down and go ahead and make this a

(05:05):
gentleman sweep.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
And I need to hoist that trophy. I think they do
as well.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
But I do want to switch gears some college football
because I'm excited about this because it just got announced.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
All right, it's about that time.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
We're closing close, We're getting close, and maybe we're jumping
the gun a little bit, but I don't remember times
being announced this early in college football for games, and
I'm okay with that. But South Carolina Clemson rivalry game
has been the time has been announced noon, all right

(05:39):
down in Columbia. All right, final game of the regular season,
as it always is.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yep, we know that.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
So it's either going to be on ABC or ESPN.
And so I started thinking just quickly, all right, this
is exciting now from a Clemson standpoint. Yes, I'm a
Clemson grad. My daughter goes to South Carolina, so this
is her last football season, so she's all amped up
from that perspective. But a noon game, hey, I'm all

(06:08):
about that. Yeah, for Clemson, I don't want to be
in Willie B at night time. Oh no, no, no,
not even close, not even close. So on November the
twenty ninth, yeah, let's go noon the Tigers and the
game Cocks. But I think there's something about this game
that is even getting more hyped up because there's a

(06:29):
lot of expectations for.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Both of these schools.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
And we've briefly touched about it, and we'll talk much
more about it as the summer continues, and then obviously
as we get into fall and get into college football season. Right,
But I'm just really curious, is there going to be
an opportunity for the state of South Carolina to have
a lot of attention on the state from a football perspective,

(06:56):
Because you've got Clemson with high expectations this year with
k club Nick, and then you've got South Carolina with
high expectations with Shane Beemer and what he's doing. And
then obviously Lenora Sellers there at quarterback and reminiscent when
you look at Lenora Sellers, there's plenty of times I
look at him and I'm like, hell, is that Cam

(07:17):
newdall Man.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yes, I mean yes, and I know I'm not the.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
First one to say that, but it is true, just
his size. And again, as a Clemson fan, like, how
can we not tackle this guy? You know, as he's
scores the game when he takes out Basically, yes, there
was a cheat code last year.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
I'm like, we can't tackle the guy. Yeah, I don't
understand this.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
So knowing that there's a lot of hype going into it,
not only for both teams in terms of expectations, and
even with South Carolina's very difficult schedule, I mean very
difficult schedule and we'll talk much more about that, but
ESPN FBI gives them a twenty percent chance of making the.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
College Football Playoff. That's pretty good. And this is what
we talked about.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
This is why the expansion is good for college football.
You have that opportunity of getting some of these teams
that would normally get in, but they still have enough
talent to make a run in the playoff.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Yeah, they're not gonna get blood. Well, anybody can get
blown out, get blown out.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yes, you expect them not to get blown out, but.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
They can compete, right, Exactly, they can compete, and as
you know, if matchups fall a certain way, you never
know what type of run these teams can put together.
And so that's why I'm excited about this game, but
also about the upcoming season. And then you add on

(08:43):
top of that, because both teams have really good quarterbacks, yes,
and that's what's exciting. I'm trying to remember the last
time that both Clemson and South Carolina are coming into
seasons preseason with all of this type of hype, not
only for their respective teams, but also for their respective quarterbacks. Right, Yeah,

(09:05):
because both of them are in conversation as Heisman candidates, right.
And when you start having that type of conversations, we
know there's going to be opportunities for fans to get
behind that embrace that because it's the quarterback position. Oh,
we want to see for success, yes, from that position.

(09:28):
And that's why I think there's something to be said
that could we be looking at an opportunity for two
schools from the small little state of South Carolina to
compete in the College Football Playoff and also send two
players to New York for the Heisman Trophy candidate winner.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
I mean Heisman Trophy winner. I wouldn't rule it out.
I really wouldn't. I look at this team, especially Shane
Biemer and the game Cocks.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
If they build them what they did.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Last year, you know, I it's it's early, it's very early.
But again, maybe I'm buying into the hype, but I
expect some pretty good things from this team just based
on what we saw last year. I'm expecting Lenora's Sellers
to take even further of a step forward as a quarterback.
And then even from a Clemson perspective, this is a

(10:18):
team that I feel like is always flirting with that
kind of all right are they are they gonna make
a run.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Of the playoffs? Whatever?

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, they're always kind of in the conversation. They might
be just a little bit outside of it, but they're
always there.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
You kind of have to mention them.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
And so if they take a step forward, if kid
Clubnitt takes a step forward, yeah, I expect good things
from Clemson because I feel like they're already set up
in a good spot. Anyways, and to your point about
the quarterback play, potential Heisman candidates, potential Heisman winners, but
also I've even seen the way too early mock drafts,
Lenora Sellers and Kate Clubnitt going pretty high there in

(10:52):
the first round at first, it seems like they're both
first rounders.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Okay, so here's the one thing that I do know.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
It's one thing to label guys as Heisman candidate, right right, right, Okay,
that's one thing, and I'm not a big proponent of
the Heisman.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Is the trophy that it used to be.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
I think it's so much more fluff than anything.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
It's popularity. Yes, there's something to be said about that.
But when you start.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Getting the NFL people, when they start talking about your
opportunity of being a first round pick or ten type
of pick, that's when you know you've got a good quarterback.
You've got somebody that can be a breakout star. And
we've already seen Kate Klubnick do that to a certain degree.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Right now.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
This is a big follow up year from him, for
him obviously going into his fourth year, but for Nora
Sellers how he ended the season also. I mean, this
is a huge opportunity. Again, his dual threat ability is
what makes him so special.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Again.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Sixty three two and forty pounds, whatever the measurements are,
that's impressive. And to the point where again we talked
about it, he's just so hard to tackle.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
So can he utilize his legs this year? Yeah? And
we know you.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Start utilizing your legs and all of a sudden, the
passing game will open up. Yah, because they have to
respect your ability to run. And so that's why I
think it's a very valid point that you make. It's
not just these prognosticators are looking at Heisman odds and
you know, looking at okay where each of these quarterbacks are.

(12:34):
It's the NFL people already talking about, yes that hey,
these are the guys based on this quarterback class, right,
that have the potential of being stars not only in
college but in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Right.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
And remember this isn't last year's quarterback class. It's not
like there's one or two guys like. No, this is
projected to be a loaded quarterback class. So there's already
a lot of big names that are in there. And
now you got Lenora Sellers and Caid Clubnick that are
also in that conversation that are part.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Of the quote unquote loaded part. They're not just there
as part of this quarterback class. They are part of
that loaded class.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yes, I love it, and that's why I love it
for the state of South Carolina, and I've talked about
it several times that this is an opportunity to showcase
the talent that both schools have. And that's why again,
I know it might be in the minority as a
Clemson grad, as.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Long as we don't lose to South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
South Carolina, you go and win every game. Yeah, I
want you to be good. I want Leonora Sellers to
have a spectacular season. I would love for Clemson and
South Carolina to send both of those quarterbacks to New
York for the Heisman Trophy. Why not.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
It's great for the state.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
It's great for the state, but it's also it's great
for both universities. Yes, and they have the opportunity. Can
you imagine, just think about this. I'm already getting hyped up.
Can you imagine at the end of the year. I mean,
both of these teams battling and out down in Colombia
at noon start, an opportunity for the College Football Playoff,

(14:15):
and maybe even that it's all going to be about
seating that both teams are going to be in or
if one team is right on the CUSP and they
need the big win to be able to get over
the hump and get that opportunity to get selected into
the College Football Playoff.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
I think it's exciting.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
I love it, and I'm telling you even with South
Carolina schedule, get ready, now, I think South Carolina is
I think they're going to turn. And I say turn
the corner, They've already started turning with the corner. I
think they're going to be able to take another step forward.
But we will break a lot of that down as
we will continue talking college football, hyping up the Clemson

(14:59):
South Carolina match up on November the twenty ninth down
in Columbia, and it has been announced it will either
be on ABC or ESPN at noon.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Either way, Willie b Is going to be rocking. Oh yeah,
I can promise you that, and I'm all for it.
All right, We've got NBA Finals to talk about as
we'll continue this Wednesday edition of The Richmond Weaver Show
presented by Ingles Markets with our guest Jason temp of Hoops. Tonight,
it's time to get smarter about the NBA Finals. Right
after this, the Wednesday edition of The Richmond Weaver Show

(15:34):
presented by Ingles Markets continues right here on one O
four nine Fox Sports Upstate NBA Finals Game three tonight
in Indiana as the games shift over to Indianapolis. Now
as a series is tied one all, and we need
to get smarter about the NBA Finals, and it's our
opportunity to bring in our good friend Jason Temp, host

(15:57):
of Hoops Tonight, and Jason, I know we've talked about it.
The season is winding down, but we still have got
some opportunities for some great basketball. But you have broken
it down previously. I am getting a little nervous now
after seeing what Okac was able to do in Game
number two against Indiana. Are we in that space now

(16:20):
for the Pacers? That hey, game three, this is almost
a must win type of situation for the Pacers in
this series.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
Yeah. Coming into this series, I was just hoping for
it to be interesting. Yes, And last week last week
when we spoke on Wednesday, I was saying we crossed
our fingers and hope that when we talked fit Wednesday
that it's one to one, and here we are, yes
one one. That's why I never want to overreact to
a game too bounce back the thunder are you very

(16:51):
very good team, probably the best team in the league. Like,
even if the Pacers win this series, I still kind
of feel like the Thunder the best team in the league.
They're just young and prone to playing below their capability.
But that game, too, was a must win, and they
showed what a championship level team does when they absolutely
need to win a game at home. I do think

(17:12):
there were some takeaways in terms of just how overwhelmingly
athletic Oklahoma City looked in Game two, in the sense
that it makes me a little nervous about Indiana's ability
to win in Oklahoma City again, meaning that I think
the tiny pathway for Indiana to win this series is
to win the three remaining home games, being tonight, Friday night,

(17:33):
and then next week on Thursday. I believe so as
far as what we saw in that game, there wasn't
anything really that significant in terms of tactical adjustments. The
Thunder just played a much better game. I thought Shay
came out in Game one and was really really just
doing a poor job of managing the flow of his offense.

(17:54):
Is jacking up mediocre shots and failing to get his
teammates involved, and he kind of started to figure it
out in the fourth quarter, as he set up a
bunch of really high quality three point looks, but at
that point it was too late, and his teammates were
at a rhythm and they couldn't make them. And I mean, look,
I'll never be able to statistically quantify this sort of thing,
and most of the NBA analytics guys just call this

(18:14):
stuff variance. I tend to think that all of these
things are connected. And I thought that Shay came out
in Game two and immediately in the first quarter made
a much more of a concerted effort to take the
reads that were available as Indiana was kind of loading
up on him, and I think it just kind of
led to the trickle down effect of more rhythm and

(18:35):
confidence from his teammates yea, and they almost doubled their
assist total. In general, the team threw way more passes
and they were twenty points more efficient per one hundred
possessions in the half court in Game two than they
were in Game one. And I thought that was really
the story of the series to this point, was a
bad Oklahoma City effort on offense in Game one and

(18:57):
then a much better effort in Game two.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, and how much do you believe into the concept
Jason in terms of, you know, offense can lead to defense,
but also defense is going to lead to offense. But
in a terms of a rhythm perspective that yes, when
you get into a better flow on the offensive side,
it can help you on defense and then vice versa.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
Yeah, so I literally think it's all connected. Yeah, the
more stops, the more stops you get, the more long
rebounds that lead to more transition opportunities. NBA offenses are
generally about twenty percent more efficient in transition, so you
get up into that front court with an advantage, it's
easier to score. The more times you score, the more

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you can set your defense, which helps you get more stops.
It's all intricately connected. I would even argue that it
trickles down when things shift in the sense that even
during the sequences where guys knock down shots and you
have to play more in the half court because you
didn't get out in transition. The more time you get
out in transition, the better you play, the more confident

(20:07):
everybody feels. There's a psychological element, and so it's literally
all connected. And I think Indiana, one of the things
you saw is because Oklahoma City scored so effectively in
Game two. They were consistently playing in the half court,
and it's just really hard to get loose against that
Oklahoma City defense that has so many good defensive players,
And so honestly, the way I was looking at it

(20:29):
was like they're the pathway for Indiana is they have
to defend well enough to get stopped so that they
can get out and transition more so that they're lesser
offensive players. Guys like Caliber and guys like Siakam, guys
like me, Smith, Dempard, they can all just feel better,
be in a better flowing be more confident, if that
makes sense. And so that takes me to the major

(20:51):
tactical adjustment that I'm hoping to see from Indiana in
Game three, which is the main issue that they're having
with Oklahoma City's offense containing the ball right at the
top of the key in these screening actions that they're running,
and one of the things they're doing with both their
bigs and their guards is with their bigs, they're bringing
them up high in a high drop coverage, meaning the

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biggest showing at the level of the screen, and then
in all their guard guard actions. They're either hedging or switching,
but pretty aggressively out above the level of the screen.
And so what Shay is doing is he's either using
the screen and splitting that defender and getting downhill into
the lane starting a four on three, or he's rejecting
the screen. Now, imagine the big that's waiting to show

(21:34):
at the level is showing at that side of the screen, yes,
And so when he rejects, there's nobody there that's right,
especially if he can get the defender to like take
that step towards the screen to where he's off balance
and then he can just cross over. Now he's got
another four on three, and then he's also mixing in
passes to the guy he's screening slipping out of it,

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which is also causing four on threes. And so Ooklohoma
City is existing in a perpetual state four on three,
which is causing Indiana to exist in rotation, which is
just a really difficult way to play defense. And so
I want to see them approach game three with a
little bit more of a contain approach. So I wonder
how much we're gonna see guys come up to the
level of the screen, right Now the counter argument would be,

(22:15):
what if Rick Carlyle says, we just didn't do it
very well. Tonight will be at home, our home crowd
will have all our athletes juiced up, our role players
more confident. I wouldn't be surprised if Rick may be
stuck with the same game plan for Game three to
see if his home crowd can get him through it.
But if Oklahoma City looks comfortable offensively early, I think

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Rick has to be willing to pivot to more of
like a deeper drop, deeper help coverages that prevent that
initial penetration at the top of the key.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
I agree, And because again what you talked about talking
about efficiency when you're four on three, that's going to
lead you to a better opportunity of being efficient on
the offensive side. So Rick Carlile might have to make
some of those adjustments. As we're getting smarter about the
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(23:07):
you can listen to the podcast version wherever you get
your podcast. All Right, The other thing Jason that we
were texting back and forth about is Tyre's Halliburton, and
it just seemed that he was very passive in Game two,
and part of that, I think is almost how Halliburton
is at times. But what does he have to do,

(23:27):
you know, to be able to get his game up
to the same level as Shay and obviously try to
outshine Shay in the finals here?

Speaker 5 (23:37):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting because one of the things
that I've been talking about as it pertains to like
the ratings, is that, yeah, these are small markets, but
more importantly, they're just new teams. They're new stars, new
teams that I've never seen these guys in the conference.
We saw Halliburton in the Conference finals last year, but
most of these guys we haven't seen in late playoff rounds.
Is kind of like a new thing, right, And so

(23:58):
we're learning about these guys, learning about their strengths and
their weakness. Is no different than when we were younger
and we were watching Lebron and it's like, oh, man,
like he really doesn't trust his jump shot, Like this
is going to be the demon he needs to conquer.
Like Popovich is stagging off of him, like he's gonna
have to knock down jump shots, right, And like I'm
learning with Haliburton that his reality is that elite on

(24:21):
ball defensive players make life kind of tough on him. Yeah,
and he's prone to having nights where he goes, oh,
this is in a night where I'm going to score
the basketball. So I'm just going to focus on creating
any advantages. And so for him, I think I think
there's a big picture goal that he needs in terms
of his skill development. I think he actually needs to
become a better shooter. I know that sounds crazy to
say because he's already such a good shooter, but there's

(24:43):
levels to it, Yes, and I think that him becoming
a better three point shooter could make him a more
dynamic score from the perimeter. And then two, within the
scope of this series, I think that there's a kind
of like what I would consider to be like a
barrier to entry for what he considers to be a
good shot, and that barrier I think right now is
too far into good shot territory. I think he needs

(25:06):
to move that barrier into a little bit more of
the questionable shots, because there are looks that he can
get in drop coverage that are decent looks that he's
passing on. And while I understand his desire to pass
out of that to try to create advantages. Those things
also are connected. So if he goes more aggression as

(25:29):
a score, even if he doesn't necessarily score super efficiently,
it will make it so that the defense reacts to
him more. And when they react to him more, it
will actually make his playmaking more valuable. And so even
though I don't think he needs to go be Shay
and take twenty five shots and try to match his
scoring ball mean, he's not that player, couldn't even if

(25:49):
he wanted to. But he can tone up the aggression
a little bit to at least make the defense honest
at least make the defense react to him in a
way to where he can create some more high quality
advantages for his teammates. And I do think that he
dropped the ball on that in Game two.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah, I mean, and I think he's going to have
to get more than seven shots in a game for
Indiana to be able to win another game in the
series in my opinion.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
No question, no question. It's just and it's just like
in the fourth quarter we saw Tyree's get going a
little bit, yeah, and all it was was trop covered shots.
The same shots that were available to them all game. Now,
Oklahoma said City definitely loosened up their intensity down the
stretch of that game. That's to be expected. But those
are the kinds of shots that are a little bit
more smothered. But those are the kinds of shots that

(26:34):
he can get a floater going downhill and pick and
roll full of three in pick and roll like you know,
picking on a big in a switch and getting a
shot off like he's he's capable of getting more of
that stuff off than he's been showing so far.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, I'm just wondering if Oksee's point of attack defenders
are just too good for Tyrese Aliberton to be consistent
that you're talking about. So we'll see how that plays out.
And I also just wondering about Indiana's bench, And we
talk about their bench, but Ken, you know, players like
Andrew nim Hard and Obi Topping, can those be type

(27:08):
of players that can swing games in Indiana's favor?

Speaker 5 (27:13):
Absolutely, I think I think that's the little bit of
optimism is Indiana at home, they have a tendency to
play better in general with the with the end of
their bench guys just under that energy, it'll manifest in
more transition. Play Obi Topping thrives in transition. Ben Mattherin

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thrives in transition. I actually think t J McConnell's been
pretty good in this series so far. In general, though
we talked about everything being connected as far as like
Oklahoma City goes, it's all about Shay and j Dubb
creating and then other guys knocking down shots off of
that advantage, with a little bit of close out attacking
from Chet and a little bit of close out attacking
from Aaron Wiggins. But they're much more of like a

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traditional here are our shot creators, here are play finishers
type of team. The Pacers are like everyone's got the keys,
like Nie Smith can do work off the bounds them hard,
can do work off the bound. So canciaka I mean Turner.
In game once hit like step back threes. And in
Game two he's attacking Chat off the bounce like everyone
in Indiana is involved. And so this is where it

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does trickle down from Tyrese. The more aggressive he is early,
the more that he creates advantages, the more that the
whole team gets in a flow, the tougher they're gonna
be to beat. And so to your point, I think
this is one of those things where if Indiana is
gonna win three, four, and six, they're going to need
steady contribution down the rocks. So they're gonna need seven

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dudes in double figures in most of these games. And
so that means like, and by the way, we Toppen
has already shown some comfort in this series. Ben had
a rough game too, but I thought he was pretty
good in the fourth quarter of Game one. So these
guys are capable and going home is the you know,
I'm really excited Richmond, like this, this crowd tonight should
be insane. Indiana has always been very good, but now

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first finals appearance in a very long time. I'm like,
this is going to be a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, I think so too, And that's what I'm excited about,
just to see what might happen, because Jason, the one
thing that we do know, for whatever reason, Indiana has
this knack of somehow back against the wall.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
They make things happen.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
They make life difficult for some of these teams, especially
down the stretch where you can never seem to put
away Indiana. So from your perspective, outside of what you
talked about, how important is the three point shooting going
to be for Indiana to be able to get a
win here tonight.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
It's gonna be huge. I mean, they've been the best
three point shooting team in the postseason so far. They're
going to get when Oklahoma City's really dialed in at best,
They're going to get some semi contested catch and shoot
jump shots out of the flow of their offense, and
if they knock them down, they just have a really
good chance to win. I mean, one of my big

(29:55):
takeaways from the first two games of the series was
that when Indian and I got the ball up the
floor quickly, didn't turn the ball over, got into their
half court flow, ran action side to side sometimes three
four times on the possession, and really started getting the
ball moving around. Even at Okac's best, they were conceding

(30:15):
some pretty decent shots. The problem is is too often
they would either turn the ball over or kind of
succumb to the switching by relying too much on ISO.
The one thing I'm okay with in terms of the
ISO is they've done a good amount of damage in
the post right at the front of the rim in
this series, more so in Game one than in Game two.

(30:36):
That sort of thing is fine, Like you can stop
your flow if it's Turner, if it's Siakam and they're
right underneath the rim, that's one thing. But when they
flow side to side, they can get good shots against
this team, and they've generated a good I think they
generated something like thirty thirty plus unguarded catching two jump
shots at this point in the series, so they certainly can.
It's just going to be about, you know, they're gonna

(30:56):
have to hit a solid forty forty five percent of
them to win this series. And I mean you had
texted me, you had said, like, do you think this
is going to be like the two thousand and one
Finals with Dalan Iverson's winning Game one. I don't see that.
One of the things with the I understand the fear,
and I understand with Oklahoma City's talent level, how that

(31:19):
seems to be the case. One of the big difference
is that Sixers team was literally Allen Iverson, I know,
and just a bunch of guys. They were really good defensively,
but there was not a ton of ball handling on
that team, like this Pacers team has a really interesting
balanced roster with a lot of guys that can get
going and they only have to win their home games.

(31:41):
I at this point, I would make it like seventy
five percent likely that Indiana at least pushes this to six,
with the chance that they push it to seven. Now,
I still feel like Oklahoma City is a substantial favorite,
and I still would be very surprised if they lost.
But I do think that this is trending more towards
the six or seven game series. The City is very good,

(32:01):
but their offense is just too rickety to go into
Indiana and win three times. To win twice, I should.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Say, yeah, I could definitely see that.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
As we are continuing with Jason temp, host of Hoops Tonight,
getting smarter about the NBA Finals, and Jason, I'm.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Pulling for the Pacers.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Just to make this, I would love to see a
seven game series in the NBA Finals. I mean, I
love getting to the point where game seven. I mean,
that's what we all want to see. From a fan perspective.
Obviously not so much if you're one of the teams
that are in it. You want to go ahead and
win as quickly as possible. But I think from a
fan perspective, going to seven games would be phenomenal for

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the NBA to your point, because we haven't seen these
teams in this type of situation, and we do have
some fantastic players and especially stars that are coming up
with Tyrese Halliburton and SGA.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
Yeah. I actually if you asked me right now to
what I think is going to happen, I think that
Indiana's gonna win tonight. I think that Oklahoma City will
win on Friday in a pretty close game. I think
Oklahoma City will win in Game five in a manner
that looks pretty similar to Game two, where they kind

(33:16):
of stiff arm them in that fifteen to twenty range
throughout the game, and then I think Indiana will come
home in Game six and get another win, and then
I think Oklahoma City will close out the finals in
Game seven. I think that's probably the most likely outcome
at this point, is they Oklahoma City steals one more
game back in Indiana and then they end up closing
out the series at home. I do have just a

(33:36):
I have a lot of respect it's been for this
Indiana Pacers game, like they they are just so hard
to kill. They are, and I think that is going
to be the same that come to drag this. They
want to say, like, as a basketball fan, with what
we've dealt with in the finals over the last three years,
I would be very thrilled.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Let's go, no question, all right.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
As we wrap up, Jason, I do have to ask
you about something very important in the NBA Finals, especially
from the NBA fans, and it's the opportunity to really
showcase in each of the home courts that this is
the NBA Finals, and the signage and the graphics just

(34:17):
apparently from every narrative out there, it's not out there
that there hasn't been a lot of focus, especially when
you're seeing it on the court. The NBA Finals logo,
it's not there. You're not seeing the Larry O'Brian trophy,
you know, part of the graphics package and all of that.
But I guess the NBA was able to listen to
some of that and had some makeshift graphics. In my opinion,

(34:42):
as far as you know, the technology that they have
now that they were able to, you know, at least
put the graphic of the Larry O'Brian trophy on the court.
But I thought they did such a poor job, Jason.
It was almost like a slap in the face that
I would rather you not do that. Just wait for
the next game and do it the old traditional way

(35:04):
and allow us to fully embrace that this is the
NBA Finals and really promote that your thoughts.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
Yeah, you know, it's so funny because I first of all,
I'm I'm generally anti complaining, So like some of the
complaining that I've seen, I love that broad training because
it's just like it's it's just annoying. I'm like, I'm like, yeah,
do what I prefer better production. Yeah, I would prefer
to have the big trophy logo on the middle of

(35:32):
the floor. That was what I kind of grew up with.
That's what I remember as being kind of the nostalgia
of the NBA that said, I just when when these
games come on, I'm focused on the basketball. Hard to explain,
I just don't care that much. Now, what I think
is hilarious about it is this is such a class
Everything that happened in Game two is such a classic
example of like everything that's wrong with the world today,

(35:54):
where like you have these people complaining and it's just
this very small group of people complaining online and it
doesn't actually represent anything close to what the public opinion
actually is. Right, it's just a bunch of random people
complaining online. But we had a bunch of people complaining
that we didn't have a trophy logo on the floor,
and the NBA immediately capitulates in Game two puts these tacky,

(36:18):
tiny trophies on the floor. We have a small group
of people online complaining that Mike Breen didn't say bang
when Tyree's Halliburton hit his game winner. Next thing you know,
Mike Breen's yelling bang after Tyre's Halliburtn's random jump shot
in the second quarner because he's capitulating to the online noise.
And it's like, stop listening to these losers on Twitter
that can't stop complaining. Who cares? It's it's so ridiculous, Richman,

(36:42):
it drives me crazy.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yes, the thumb gangsters out there, as Dabosweeny would say, yes,
they can.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Uh, they have a lot of power.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
And to be honest with you, Jason, yeah, I didn't
even notice that there was no NBA Finals graphics on
the court until your point that you just made that.
I saw it and I was like, well wait a second, Okay, yes,
I do like that.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
But if you're going to do it, do it the
right way.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Don't just go out there and quote unquote half asset
and you know, try to to your point to make
the small minority happy.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
But we still have I could have seen the meeting
like we could have been in the meeting when someone
like put it like someone was like, hey, guys, we've
seen a little bit of a movement on social media.
People are upset that there's no trophies on the floor.
And then someone raised their hand and was like, well,
we can have our cgi guys. It's so ridiculous, Richmond.
It drives me crazy, man.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
I love it. Hey, let's focus on the game.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Let's focus on the opportunity of having a good competitive game,
and we'll see if Indiana can reclaim some of their
magic that they lost after Game one, because this will
be a big time game there in Indiana. And Jason,
we can't thank you enough each Wednesday joining us to
help us get smarter about the NBA. We will talk
to you next week, my friend.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
Thanks buddy, see you next week.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yes that is Jason tim Up, host of Hoops Tonight again.
Subscribe to his YouTube channel. I promise you you will
get smarter about the NBA, and he's doing a fantastic job.
He's growing and his platform is continuing to excel even
having the opportunity also getting together with Kevin O'Connor's a
huge NBA insider and analyst and does a great job.

(38:22):
So Jason is continuing to kind of climb the ranks,
so to speak. So we're honored to have Jason with
us each and every Wednesday to help us understand a
little bit more about the NBA Finals and can Indiana
win tonight? As you heard, Jason thinks they can, But OKC,
he's going to win this series. I would love to
see the series go to seven games. We'll continue this

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joined in studio by former PGA Tour star Charles Warren

(39:25):
for Clempson golfer who won the NCAA National Championship. Yeah,
on the individual side, So especially with the US Open,
Oh it's perfect starting tomorrow. Oh yeah, this is going
to be a great opportunity to get some inside knowledge
from a former PGA Tour pro and especially when you're

(39:46):
hearing all the stories right now about Oakmont, Oh yeah, yeah,
and how difficult it is, and even from a perspective
that Rory McElroy did a practice around and birdied the last.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Two holes to shoot in eighty one. Yeah, that's rough,
that's right.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
And you're seeing some of these guys out there because
the greens are so fast and the fairways are cut
so low, which obviously you want to be in the fairway,
you don't want to be in the rough.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
But because of the topography and how fast the greens are,
there's guys and they're playing around, but there are one
hundred and fifty yards out and they're using their putter.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Really.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yes, you should see some of the videos with Tony
Finow using his putter from one hundred and fifty yards out.
That's wild, It's insane. That's how difficult this course could be.
And again there's a par three that's almost three hundred yards.
These guys are using driver on some of these par threees.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
I mean, it's insane. So definitely looking forward to that.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
And speaking of the US Open, I mean I do
have to with it starting tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
I guess I'm going Scotti. It's hard not to. It's
hard not to.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
It's either Scotty or Ludwig Udberg. I love seeing what
he can do. Yeah, I do too, Yeah, and all
for whatever reason, I always have to say, oh bug,
I have to give it that that Scandinavian right, you know,
Viking type of.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Whatever the word I'm looking for.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
But I do think that again, Scotty is just at
a different level right now. I'm not to say that
somebody like a Bryson D. Chambeau can't repeat, you know,
Xander Schaffley.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
I get that. But if it's the field or Scotty,
I'm going with Scotty right now. I don't think you
have to, it's the obvious choice.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Sometimes you just keep it simple, keep it simple, stupid, Yes,
there is something about that. All right, Let's take a
look at some of the latest headlines.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
It's only one game, and that's to take care.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Of men hitting the latest headlines. It's the daily rundown.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
All right.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
How about this in the NFL, as you know, we
have taken the shows out on the road on football Fridays,
right part of the ingles all American tailgate show. Well,
is somebody following what we're already doing, because CBS the
NFL today has announced that they will hit the road
on select Sundays with live on site shows for the

(42:25):
twenty twenty five NFL slate, and they will kick things
off in week one from lambeau Field really as the
Packers host the Lions on September the seventh.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah, So taking the show out on the road to
the people, I mean makes sense. I get it. I'm
surprised I haven't done a center.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
I would agree with you because we've seen College Game
Day and we know how successful that has been.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Huge. Why hasn't the NFL.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
And most of the times we look at the NFL
and say we'll.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Copy what the NFL does exactly.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Yeah, but the NFL on this one says Okay, well
maybe we should do what college football is doing and
go out on the road. Why not, because they're having
such success with the NFL draft, right.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Right, right, exactly.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Well that's what makes the NFL so successful as they
take that kind of stuff into account, they examine it
and go will it work for us?

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Yeah? I think it will. Let's do it. Whereas again,
to your point, college football, hey, just copy the NFL.
Don't have to be so stagnant, you don't, you definitely
do not.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
All right, how about this one, speaking of the NFL,
get ready for this, Oh my goodness, August the nineteenth
on Netflix. Mark your calendar. Come on to America's team.
The Gambler and His Cowboys. The Story of Jerry Jones

(43:40):
and the Dallas Cowboys will be released on Netflix on
August nineteenth.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Yes, the Cowboys. You know the truth? You don't, that's
the tagline. So there you go. Just two hours of
Jerry sit in front of a camera.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
And he's loving every minute of it, right he probably
he probably paid for the production of his ego is
so big.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
How about this, mister.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Jim Harball in the NFL as recovering from not only
cardiac ablation, but also hip replacement surgery this past off season.
Really yeah, so Jim Harball getting a new hip, the
run up and down those sidelines and you know, catch
the balls.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
He wears the gloves everything, he does everything. So I
do love the antics from Jim Harball at times. And
at the end of the day though, I mean, he's
a hell of a coach.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
He really is.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Look what he's done with so many different teams. And
I do believe the Chargers are going to be really
good in the coming years. I just I don't know
how they're going to do it, but I do believe
they are going to be good. All Right, that's some
of the latest headlines and we will continue this Wednesday
edition of the Richmond Weaver Show presented by Ingles Markets
right after this live from the Ingles studio right here

(45:00):
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Speaker 3 (45:01):
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walk back in a little bit of history.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
What happened on this day. Let's go back in history
to the moments you might have forgotten and the ones
you'll never forget. It's ot D on this day, all right.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Nineteen eighty four, the Boston Celtics would win their fifteenth
NBA title, beating the La Lakers one eleven to one
oh two in Game seven. And I remember watching that
game distinctly. I was not happy because I was not
a Boston Celtics fan. I wanted the Lakers to win
because again it goes back to that point, the Celtics

(45:54):
were winning so much, right, I didn't want them to
win any Tired watching it, Yeah, I wanted the Lakers
to win, though I was disappointed in that one. Nineteen
ninety Nolan Ryan, at forty three years old, would pitch
the sixth no hitter of his career. Again, he set
the record seven no hitters. Jeez, they just don't I'm
telling you. He was a different type, oh ye of

(46:15):
baseball player back in the day. And in nineteen ninety seven, Oh,
I remember this one too. Game five of the nineteen
ninety nineteen ninety seven NBA Finals Michael Jordan and the
Chicago Bulls, and this game would be known as the
flu Game. Oh yes, now apparently it was from food poisoning.
But Michael Jordan goes out and does a remarkable job

(46:37):
Forty four minutes, thirty eight points, including a clutch three
point shot with twenty five seconds to go to give
the Bulls the victory.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
That is OTD.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
And that is this Wednesday edition of The Richmond Weaver
Show presented by Ingles Markets.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
We'll talk to you tomorrow.