The Richmond Weaver Show 2025-6-3

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Exploring the latest headlines and in depth conversations. It's the
Richmond Weavers Show on one oh four nine Fox Sports
up State presented by Ingles Low Prices, Love the savings,
Now for riches, take on sports. Here's Richmond Weaver.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Ready to roll this Tuesday right here on one oh four
nine Fox Sports Upstate. Golf Week is here in the Upstate.
The BMW charity program presented by td Sinex is this weekend.
There's all types of festivities going on, and we are
broadcasting live from Thorn Blade Club right here overlooking the
Ninth Green, and it is absolutely picturesque. They have set

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up all of the grand stands, all of the tenths
and it looks amazing. I was actually able to play
a practice round earlier, so I did just beat the clock,
got here just in time, right before this show started.
So thank you, mister Falco, but even more so, thank
you to just Jeff for getting everything set up. And
if you heard that laugh right there, mister Darren Angel

(01:05):
of the Wish Law Firm joining us here also on
this Tuesday edition of The Richmond Weavers Show, presented by
Ingles Markets. And guess what the phone lines are back
up and running, you, sir, join the conversation. Yes, let's
go with loud clap and no golf clap for there.
We need a loud clap right there, as we do
have the technological grimlins sometimes will rear their ugly head,

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but right now we do have the phone lines back up,
so you can join the conversation eight six four two
four zero five four eight zero. Getting that numbers eight
six four two four zero five four eight zero, as
we're definitely going to talk golf, and we're hoping to
have some of the corn Ferry Tour pros potentially join
the show here today to give us some insight as

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they get ready for the grind just past the halfway
point of this season on the corn Ferry Tour and
the opportunity of being inside the ropes with some of
these celebrities and also these amateurs and what that might
look like based on Remember, these guys are not only
trying to make the cut, but then they're trying to

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get their PGA Tour card finish in the top twenty.
And it used to be the top thirty. Now it's
the top twenty, so it's even harder to get your
PGA Tour card. But we do know that these are
the future stars of the PGA Tour, and so we're
going to talk about that. I wanted to actually talk
about NFL potential MVPs as we're in the process of

(02:37):
identifying who might rise to the top as OTA's started
for the NFL. But guess what happens. Sports happens, news happens,
Things happen, And we just got the word right before
we got on air. According to ESPN reports, Sean Serana

(02:59):
that top I'm Thibodeaux, the head coach of the New
York Knicks, has been fired. Yes, fired. They were just
in the Eastern Conference finals for the first time in
twenty five years.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Are you crazy? Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I don't even know what to make of this situation
with New York other than Trey.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
How many times have we talked about it.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
This microwave mentality, this microwave generation, and this mindset that
you better win now, and you better win quickly, and
there's no chance of a process of developing and knowing that, Hey,
I knew New York after this season exiting the way

(03:48):
they did that they're going to have to make some changes.
And we saw Jyleb Brunson be able to be that
guy that took less money, so you felt like maybe
there were the pieces that were there. You can get
Carl Anthony Towns and I know Tom Thibodeau. He can
come across as a little rough, he can come across

(04:09):
as a little edgy, and his style might not be
from a player's style, from you know, a player's coach,
but from what the players talk about, they do trust him,
they do believe in him. And so this is a
little bit of a shock based on New York and
how oh so close they were to getting to the

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NBA Finals. Now, Indiana did seem to have their number,
but if you remember that Darren game one, it could
have easily gone New York. I mean, that was again
a scenario that I feel was more about Indiana came
out and stole that one and that was clutch performance

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rather than the New York Knicks choking that game away.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
I agree, I agree. I'm equally is shocked by this.
This one caught me completely off guard. You know, there
has been a bit of a track record. I'm not
trying to compare these teams, but you know, you saw
Mark Jackson get fired in Golden in San Francisco with
Golden State, you know, after a very good yes, but

(05:17):
that's right over the hump. You know, you saw the
situation in Cleveland last year where, at least from a
regular season perspective, they you know, they won sixty plus games.
But man, I'm just a little bit confused on what
you do from here. You know, I think you make
some Mexico excellent points of you know, sometimes Tibbs can

(05:40):
can you know, maybe wear out as welcome, but holy cow,
I I'm I just don't know what you do from
a coaching perspective here that puts you in a different category.
Because in summation, a lot of those other things I mentioned,
it seems as though maybe that voice had run its

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course with that particular organization. I didn't get any indication
that TIBs. Tibbs's voice, in his way, had run its
course with this. With this next roster, I thought, maybe
you just needed to tweak the roster a little bit now,
alsocially changing voice.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
So maybe there's something.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
We don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
But off off rip, I'm shocked.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, I think there's definitely one of those scenarios that
plays out where we don't know the inside workings. We
don't know the conversations that were being had, and especially
when you are in a situation and you lose.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
You beat the Celtics, so you have that.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Opportunity getting the Big Brother out of the Eastern Conference
Finals and then you have this scenario where you lose
to India Indiana. But this is a tough situation in
my opinion that for the New York Knicks to fire
Tom Thibodeaux, I mean, I think that is absolutely insane.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
But that's the beauty sports.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
You have all types of things that happen and you
don't know what might happen, and you have to.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Adjust, you have to pivot.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
And where we're going to pivot right here, So caller,
you stay on hold right now because we're joined by
Hall of Honor Carolina Panthers. Steve Smith, Senior, sixteen year
NFL veteran and now an NFL color commentator. You're an
analyst to all of that on the NFL network. And
now can we say golfer? Can we say you're a

(07:29):
true pro golfer? Yeah, let's make sure we get the
mic on here.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Is that it? Yep?

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yep? There we go, Yes, Steve Smith Senior joining us.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
So we're going to say you're a golfer, now I'm
a hacker. All right, So let me ask you this
right now, OTAs, what about you miss it?

Speaker 3 (07:54):
No, you did your time.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
It's it's a it's an easy answer and it's a
hard answer. It's an easy answer in regards of understanding
accepting my time is past. Okay. But then you if
you go to practice and if you're around things, you
start to realize, I don't miss this, don't want to

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go like go running, sweatings, meetings, do it all over again.
It's just there's just so many elements that I'm just
okay with not participating in.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Sixteen year NFL veteranst Smith Senior joining us here on
this Tuesday edition of the Richmond Weavers Show, presented by
Ingles Markets. All right, so when you decided to leave
the game of football, what did you miss the most?

Speaker 5 (08:51):
I think you miss what everybody misses is the friendships.
Is walking into the locker room and seeing guys that
you know intimately, where you can tell if they're having
a good day or bad day. I think that's the
biggest thing. There's a lot of other things that I

(09:13):
don't miss about the game because what it entails where
you have to go mentally to be able, you know,
as people would tell me, it's playing with a chip
on your shoulder. Yes, to get up every single morning
and be that irritated all the time, it's so draining

(09:35):
and we can I can laugh about it today, but
I was unaware and didn't notice, didn't notice that of
myself when I was playing, and so it was a
little bit it was like, man, to get in that
mindset and to continue to do that every single morning,
every single day. Man, that's exhausting. Bro. It's just it's

(09:57):
I'm like, no, thank you.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Have you always that chip on your shoulder, that mentality
that you're going to prove people wrong.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Well, some of it is, some of it is, yes.
Some of it has to do with just the perspective
I have of, you know, looking for looking for the
doubt and the criticism versus accepting compliments and holding onto
those compliments. So yes, but then there's also you know,

(10:25):
things that I experienced in football, whether it was well
he liked the height, he wasn't you know, he doesn't
have this, or he doesn't have that, And those were
things that I that some people say, well, you you
heard them or you drew them up in your mind.
I didn't draw up that. I was five to nine,

(10:48):
you know, and I and I always heard or I
heard consistently. I wasn't prototypical, yes, right, I was just
a returner. And then a lot of One of the
things that didn't realize is my junior year of college,
I had a C four burst fracture. So I fractured
my fourth vertebrake in my neck, and we didn't do

(11:08):
surgery because at that time they had said surgery fusing
your neck would eliminate your opportunity of playing in the
National Football League. So like little things like that that
I experienced, that happened, and when I went to Utah,
Utah was not Utah.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
To try it.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
Which so it's just a lot of factors in there
that some of it I saw that I sought out,
and some was actually right there right. Some of it
is I was wearing a uniform that said it wasn't
a big time school at the time. I'd love Utah.
I love I love I love you, give money to you.

(11:45):
I'm a paying alumni, man. I love Utah because they
gave me an opportunity that no one else gave me.
So I pay it forward, to pay it backwards because
there was a family who donated their money, and that
money that they donated the school felt that I deserved

(12:06):
an opportunity to attend college and to play football. And
without those complete strangers given faith, yeah into the University
of Utah administrative people and stuff in the football team,
I would have never got the opportunity to go. So
for sure. Yeah, so I'm very appreciative of that.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Steve Smith Senior is our guest to here, sixteen year
NFL veteran, longtime Carolina Panther. So when you got to Carolina,
who were some of the guys that helped you as
a rookie to understand what life was going to be
like in the NFL?

Speaker 5 (12:41):
I mean, I had a ton of guys that try
to tell me life. No, you don't listen. What are
those guys? No, Mussi Muhammad never heard of them? Right,
Ricky pro who's that? You know? I? You know, I
was just like anyone else, young, naive and thinking that

(13:02):
I was gonna I was gonna go against the buck,
you know, I was gonna change it. I was going
to change everything. Yeah, I was gonna be able to
fix the world and and and I learned just like
everyone else. Yeah, you know, humble Boy comes in all shape,
sizes and timeframes, right, so you know one fifteen it
was it was it was unique that my rookie year

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was unique because we weren't very good and then you
had nine eleven. So it was just it was a
ton of things, like, it was a ton of things
going on that as a young man, I just had
no idea what was going on for sure.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Now, how was it in terms of then being able
to be part of that Carolina Panthers team that starts
having success and then you reached the Pinnacle super Bowl
but not able to win. Do you still think about that?

Speaker 5 (13:50):
That was? What year was that? That was a long
time ago. Yeah, so I was only in my third year. Yeah,
I was only in my third year. So I felt
we were gonna go. We'll be back again next year. Yeah,
So it's again naive.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
That's right. But it's hard in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
It is, it's very different. It's a it's a business, right,
just like anything else. You guys have this show, but
you know there's a number of people there are a
number of guys who can have the same opportunity, but
they don't for various reasons. That has nothing to do
with him, yea, And sometimes it has everything but doing
it being at the right place at the right time,

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with the right people and being available for sure. So
it just it's it's it's one of those things. I'm
not gonna sit here and act like I have all answers. Right,
You go to a different team with better or worse something,
whether it be front office coaching, and it can impact

(14:55):
your career, your year totally different. So it just varies. Man,
it's so many variables.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Was there anybody that you did not enjoy going up against.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
You're talking about competitively, Yes, it depends, right, every player
you had can play well with one team and not,
so it really depended on the coordinator. But there's a
number of guys that I woke up with a frog
in my throat because we had to go against him
obviously to leave Champ Bailey, right, Eric Davis being a

(15:35):
forty nine ers guy. Eric Davis was still playing with
the Detroit Lions at the time, and I'm like, oh
my god, right, I remember Otis Smith knocked the mess
out of me. Man, It's so many. You know, obviously
Darrel Reeves, so many players playing for Atlanta, Ashley Ambrose

(15:55):
and Ray bu Cannon right, Al Harrison, Al Harris for
Green Bay, Brian Kelly with Tampa obviously, Uh you know,
Ronde Barber, Dexter Jackson. There's so many outstanding players. I remember, uh,
God rest his soul. But uh Pat Tillman, Man, I

(16:17):
remember Pat Tillman knocked the cleats off of Isaac Berg
going across the middle one time my rookie year. They
threw him my little dagger route and uh, Pat Tillman
hit Ike Bird so hard when he hit him, it's cleat.
I went right, Cleet went and left. I remember that,
and I was like, yeah, I ain't trying to go across.
I'm good, goes on and goes to the military. And

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at that time he was doing kickoffs. Man. It was
just so much, man. So when you talk about fantastic
players and just guys, for me, I know I come
across a very cocky or whatever, but I love football
and I've always respected the history of football and knowing

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and seeing football today. But then being a part of
the opportunity to play against Ray Lewis. You know we're
here in South Carolina. To have the opportunity to shake
hands and sit in a golf cart with Stirling Shark, right,
to have to have an opportunity to speak with Steve Larger.

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Grew up Eric metcalf Always when I was a kid man,
I wanted to get a thousand yards like Carl Pickens,
Herman Moore, right, Chris Carter, opportunity to shake hands with
Chris Carter, Randy Johnson, John Taylor, me and him. I
grew up a forty nine ers fan out of LA
and uh the Super Bowl that was in Detroit the

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first time I got to meet and shake hands and
hug with JJ Stokes. This U c l a man,
you know playing golf a couple of years ago with
Jonathan Ogden and seeing him when I was in high
school and his afro walking down the third Street promenade
and he looked like he was eight feet tall. Man.
To take experience and do that, we just about time.

(18:12):
But wrapping up, man, I got to play a kids game,
get paid a king's ransom, and be carded around the
United States like a diplomat. But utilizing that opportunity to
go see the world, and so I have if you're

(18:33):
talking about what problems do I have with my career?
None legitimate, just bitching and complaintitimate career.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Wrapping up with Steve Smith, Senior, sixteen year NFL veteran.
All right, so I have to ask you, though, why
did you decide to come participate in the BMW charity
program I got.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
I got the opportunity to play. I've been playing the
last couple of years, taking a serious miss the place
where on the golf course I listen to certain types
of music. I come with a certain behavior, come with
a certain expectation, which is have fun, smile, be grateful
for whatever you did the whole before, because it's not
going to carry over, right, and depend on how it is.

(19:19):
Thank goodness. But really it's been a space that I
do it for myself, right and and and I'm never
in her when I'm on the golf course, and then
I just try to have fun in this place where
I listen to country music. So it's, uh, you know,

(19:40):
I I'm in more of like the jelly roll shaboozie
like some of that, but you know, I gotta have
something that's just kind of got a twang and just
kind of uh, what's that. What's her name? Lauren Wilson.
I like her stuff too, though, Yeah, Landy Wilson. Yeah,
she got some good stuff. She's a little bit more,
she bit more common in jelly roll, jelly roll, a

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little rough, but I love it. Man.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Well, Steve can't thank you enough for joining us here.
We greatly appreciate it and hit them straight.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
Yeah yeah, or if you're out here, dug that's right.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
That is Steve Smith, Senior, sixteen year NFL veteran and
analyst for NFL Network. As we will continue this Tuesday
edition of The Richmond Weaver Show presented Smart.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Right after this live from thorn Blade Club.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Right here on this Tuesday edition of The Richmond Weaver
Show presented by Ingles Markets, it is golf week here
in the Upstate. The BMW Charity Program presented by td
cent X is here the entire week. There's all types
of festivities going on. You got the first t program tomorrow.
You also have the Cole Swindell concert on Thursday night

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in Spartanburg, got fifth Third Bank Stadium there, So make
sure you go to BMW Charitygolf dot com to get
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to get information, tickets, the opportunity to see some of
these cornfairy tour professionals as they are the rising stars
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and have that opportunity of seeing some world class golf
in a world class setting. I'm telling you, right here,
we're overlooking the ninth green at Thornblade Club. We broadcast
yesterday from Spartanburg at the Carolina Country Club, and Michael McGovern,
the tournament director, and all of the people that are
helping behind the scenes here for the BMW Charity Program

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presented by tdcin X, are doing an absolutely fantastic job.
It looks amazing. And I also have to give a
shout out to a Townsend Meyers. A fantastic job securing
Steve Smith Senior right there, getting him on the show,
and that was fan fantastic, great individual, man, I'm telling you,

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And even as we were in between off air right there,
he's still making jokes, he's still just being flamboyant and
gregarious all of that, and I thoroughly enjoyed that opportunity.
But we had to have Neil hold through that interview,
and anybody else can join the conversation as well. Eight
six four two four zero five four eight zero. So

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let's head out to the Engles hot line. Neil, I
appreciate you staying on hold and especially holding on through
the break right there. How are you, my friend?

Speaker 6 (22:35):
Tell you what rich talking about? One legend to another
Richmond Weaver to dismiss Senior. That's awesome minute. Like I
said off the air, that's that's one of the best things,
if not the best thing I've ever heard on your shows.
It's at the top. I mean, you know the thing
I've always liked. There's guys that you know as a
forty nine Ers fan lifetime, you know, as you're a
Cowboys fan. There's guys from other teams that you respect

(22:58):
because of the way they play the game, Like right
out for me, it's Josh Allen. He just gives it all.
And then there are other guys that you actually kind
of pull for even though they don't play for your team.
Michael Irvin was always one of those guys. For me,
I hated the Cowboys with a passion. However, Michael Irvin
was just the way he just carried himself. Steve Smith
is another guy for me.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
Now.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
I always knew Steve Smith was a forty nine Ers
fan growing up. I had read it somewhere many, many,
many years ago. And you know, you hear him talk,
and you hear him talk about the game, and then
you hear him talk about so what am I going
to complain about nothing because it really doesn't mean anything.
And he talks about how a king's ransom they get
paid this amount of money to go out and play

(23:39):
a kid's game. The guy just knows what I mean.
He just has it. He just up top. Forget his
physical attributes, you know, five and I don't care how
tall he is when it comes to his mental space.
He just knows what he's doing because he has it
in perspective he was given to. Even when he said,
and you and I have talked about this before, not

(24:00):
everybody is given the same opportunities, no matter what people
want to believe, you are not. I am not Bronnie James.
You know I'm not playing for the Lakers because my
father was lebron James. And I did talk about the NBA,
but I got to talk about Steve Smith for a second,
and hear him and it makes you respect to me
even that much more. That was an awesome interview. I

(24:21):
just wish one thing I wish Steven. I know he's
not listening. I just wish he wouldn't have sayd he
liked country music at the young rich he had yet
ninety nine going to one hundred on likability and then
he has to go and ruin it with like I
might be the only guy in the world. But is
it just me? Or is it when you listen to
country music it makes me want to go home and
jump off of a four fourth story building. I mean,

(24:42):
it's just depressing.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
There is something to be said about that.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
But that's something that we just got to learn about
Steve Smith Senior there that might not have been known previously.
So we do have that opportunity. But I agree with you, Neil,
just from a perspective of the guy. Is that respect
from their playing ability, but also when you hear them talk.
And I think he does a really good job on

(25:10):
the NFL network trying to balance making sure you know
that he's not just reliving and rewriting history based on
his playing days. When he's evaluating what's going on in
the NFL. Right now and evaluating current players in the NFL.
And I think there is a balance to that, and
I think part of it is that, interestingly enough, what

(25:31):
he talked about with his mindset and the chip on
his shoulder and almost that he didn't even really realize
it until he's able to remove himself from it and
then be able to see himself from the outside and say, man,
wait a second. You know that that was a challenge
for me, and how draining that was to live up

(25:54):
to that type of bravado each and every game, each
and every day. I think it was impressive for him
him to have that type of recognition as you describe Neil.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
And and then you know, and I was leave it
at this and then which we'll transform over the to
what I called to talk about, you know, just hearing
him talk and just talk, and he talks about, you know,
the ups and the downs and all that, and he
talks about the life in the NFL. And he said
even when you ask him about who helped him when
he came in, and he talked about, well, I dan
listen the guy just I mean, he's honest, he's up front,

(26:24):
he's us just with I mean, he's a little bit
more athletic than you and I, and he's got a
little bit more money. But to be able to tune
into this station, a local station, and I'm up here
all the way on lexingto a North Carolina and I
still tune you guys in because I don't like anything
around here. It's awesome to hear somebody on the radio
like that. And it's even more awesome. And no matter
if you liked him or disliked him, I know a

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lot of people. He's cocky, and he's all this. When
you're five nine and you're playing a game that they
want six three sixty four typical prototypical receivers and you're
doing better than any of those guys, you have to
be a little cocky. Let's be honest. I can't do
it on air, but if I could, I'd give him
a standing ovation. That was awesome, Richmond, and I thank
you two for having him on and whoever you said

(27:06):
helped go get him. That was an awesome segment. So
one quick thing before I talked NBA. Rich I was
watching something on Fox News yesterday and I'm so tired
of hearing about this, But can you answer me one question?
Before we talk NBA and I know that you have
to be diplomatic here, but why does a sixteen year
old boy want to become a sixteen year old girl
and play girls athletic?

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Can you believe I don't have any capability of answering
that question, Neil, and so we will decide to move
on and you can talk.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
Fair enough. So obviously I called because obviously the NBA
Finals starts in two days. But more importantly, what you
guys were talking about, you and Darren Tom Kibodeaux getting fired? Yeah,
how about firing How about firing Jalen Brunson's defense? How
about firing kr Anthony Towns for not showing up in
about half the games that they played against Indiana and
more importantly, the Knicks as a total team in their

(28:03):
defense and the four losses against them, they average what
one hundred and twenty five hundred and twenty six points? Yeah,
I mean, you can't win in the NBA play You
can't win in regular season given up that much, much
less than the playoffs. So you know, this is one
of the things that absolutely drives me crazy about all sports.
Coaches get too much credit when they win, They get
they get they you know, when they lose, they they

(28:24):
get thrown under the bus too much. Players play the
game no matter Obviously, there's coaches that make teams better.
They're coaches that make teams worse, obviously, you know, with
their schemes and the way that they go about things,
even you know in the locker room. However, let's be
honest there. You know, there's how many teams in the NBA.
Tom Thibodeau is in the top five, top six coaches
in the NBA. I don't care what anybody tells me.

(28:47):
The guy can coach. He comes across sometimes, like you said,
he comes across rough. But to me, and this is
where I'm going to get your opinion, and then I'm
going to tell you mine. I think there's something behind this.
And I think one of those boy players don't like him.
And I don't think you get rid of the Tom
Thibodeau unless somebody and I'm not gonna blame one player.

(29:08):
This is an example. So this is not me saying
it's Jalen Brunson, unless you have a Jalen Brunson or
cat going and saying, hey, I don't think we can
win with this style. I don't think we can win
with this coach. What do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, there's no question that this is not based on results.
This is not based on them getting beat in the
Eastern Conference Finals, because there's a lot of people that
didn't even think that Knicks could be in that position
to be, you know, just a few games away from
the NBA Finals, let alone being in the Eastern Conference Finals.

(29:40):
So at the end of the day, when you have
something that is coming at you like a curveball like this,
there's no doubt somewhere down the line there is a
breakdown in communication between Tom Thibodeau and the Knicks upper management.
Something had to happen, and it might have been going

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on for the past several months. We don't know, but
I think we're gonna find out in the coming weeks
exactly what transpired there, because if it's a player revolt
or if it's just not seeing eye to eye with
Tom Thibodeau and upper management as far as what the
future will look like for the New York Knicks, but
I wonder if it was Tom Thibodeau almost taking a

(30:25):
principal stand about something and saying, well, if you don't
like it then fire me. And then the Knicks called
his bluff and they fired him.

Speaker 6 (30:36):
I could definitely see that happening. He's that kind of guy. Yeah,
and get more power to him. He's not gonna I mean,
he's got money, he doesn't care. He's gonna be secure.
Somebody's gonna hire him, so he's gonna get.

Speaker 5 (30:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:48):
Absolutely, you know, NBA Finals in two days. I told
you a couple of weeks ago, I was picking after
the first two games of the Denver and Okay, see,
I said I was switching over to Denver. That was
kind of like me, kind of like hedging what I
had already picked. I picked Okac, And I told you
this before the season. I picked OKC before the season.
You could just see them maturing. This team is scary good.

(31:09):
This team is scary good. Defensively, I have not seen
a team this good on ball defense. Plus you know,
like pick up defense where they I mean the health
defenses off the charts. It's unreal. I haven't seen a
team this good since the Bulls the nineties when they
had Rodman, Pippen and Jordan Obviously, and let me tell you,
I'm gonna stick to Okac. But I am going to

(31:31):
tell you this. Out of all the teams in the
Eastern Conference, and this is going to sound mind blowing,
but I think Indiana is one of those teams that
can actually take them to six or seven games, and
the reason is their style of play. They can score
from every position. They have guys that can play at
multiple positions. They've got one of the most underrated players

(31:51):
in the NBA, Heliburton, and I love the fact that
he kind of after he saw the NBA players voted
him as the most overrated, he went off. I think
this is going to be an interesting scene. I do
think Oklahoma City wins. But you give me Indiana plus
two games, which is what it's at, and you still
get plus money. I'll take that. I think Indiana wins
two games. I do think Oklahoma City wins, and I

(32:12):
think the games that they do win, the four games,
I think at least three of them are blowouts. But
I tell you one thing, this is going to be scary.
Good team who if they stick together because they have
put it together well and you've talked, but you and
I have talked about this. Rich anybody's coached or knows
anything about basketball. The best teams are the ones that
mesh well a guys, not a bunch of guys that
you know like Dwyane Wade and Lebron on the same team.

(32:34):
You got to have guys who are good at help
and that's what they have. They have one superstar and
a couple of guys who are close. Man, if they
stick together, this team could be really good. I'll say,
Oklahoma City in six wasn't surprising me to see them
going four or five. But man, this game, this team
is good. And lastly, this goes to show you. And
it was funny to me how people were picking Minnesota

(32:56):
to beat them. That's how close Denver is. That's how
close they are. You don't blow an eight or nine
point lead at home, they would have won that series.
That's how good Joker is. Appreciate it, Rerich, have a
good week, Bud.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Thank you, Neil.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
We always appreciate it, and anybody else that wants to
join the conversation. Eight six four two four zero five
four eight zero. And I do believe that when you're
looking at Oklahoma City and this Indiana matchup, if what
Neil was talking about, the suffocating defense that the thunder have,
I mean It is impressive Denver was able to exploit

(33:30):
them in certain scenarios, and I think Indiana can do
the same thing what Neil was talking about, but it's
a different way because Indiana's going to come at you
in waves. They're going to push the pace, They're going
to get up and down the floor. And they do
it on both sides though, on the offensive side and
the defensive side. And I know we want to focus
on ok Se is supreme and we saw well top,

(34:07):
so that's going to be the key for Indiana to
be able to do this against OKAC and I think they.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
That's just how they play. Rick Carlisle is so underrated
after the break.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
But I also look at this Oka See team and
what Neil was talking about. This could be one of
those scary teams. And it reminds me of when the
Golden State Warriors got things cooking. That was a team
that were able to put together the pieces that meshed well.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
It wasn't about.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
A big time superstar collaborating with another big time superstar.
I know we can say Kevin Durant joined them, but
the Warriors were well on their way. Yeah, as far
as being the Warriors that we saw before Kevin Durant.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Absolutely, and you have.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
To give Steve Kerr a lot of credit for that.
But players make the plays. Players at the end of
the day are going to be the ones that win
you games. And also we could say the flip side
could potentially lose the games as well. All Right, we'll
continue this Tuesday edition of the Richmond Weaver Show presented
by Ingles Markets, broadcasting live from the BMW Charity Program

(35:31):
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(36:16):
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Speaker 3 (36:34):
This is picture perfect weather because that trey.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
It's sunny, but there's cloud cover, so you've got some
break and as long as we can avoid some of
those crazy afternoon thunderstorms.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Good luck, yes, good luck exactly.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
I did see the weather that it does look like
Thursday and Friday there might be some temperatures rising into
the nineties with some opportunities for thunderstorms. Yes, it could
be some rain, but hopefully it will hold off to
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(37:12):
seventeen million dollars for South Carolina charities. So absolutely fantastic
job by tournament director Michael McGovern and all of his team.
And again we also want to say big thanks to
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(37:34):
that she was able to help us secure the interview
with Steve Smith Senior sixteen year NFL veteran and Darren.
You and I were talking as Darren Angel from the
Weisch Law firm has joined us.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Looking at his career.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
He's got almost fifteen thousand yards and is he on
that verge?

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Could he be a guy that might.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Get into the NFL Hall of Fame or.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Is he just out?

Speaker 4 (38:00):
I just I just remember he's a little he's a
couple of years older than I and I just remember
coming up and he was just always one of the
best receivers in the NFL. He was always, you know,
leading the league in yards.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yes, he was durable, durable and as much as he
talked about as he was mentioning some of the hard
hits he hit, I mean had yeah, and also some
of the tough opponents that he had against and talking
about Pat Tillman and how you know he leveled a
guy coming across the middle and Steve Smith saying, all right,
I don't want to go across the middle.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
But he still would he would still go across the middle.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
He was.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
It's funny during the interview, I was thinking of two things.
The first is, to your point right now, that he
was so versatile, you could put him in the slot.
He could beat guys down the field. Uh, he just
he attacked the football. But he was just a really,
really receiver. And then the second piece that I think

(39:03):
is worth adding, and this is why one of the
things I think would help his case is if you
look at him throughout his career. You know, I think
you can tell a lot about a guy's work ethic,
and a lot about a guy's kind of just the
fact that he gets it based on how others your
teammates and your opponents respect you, no doubt, and there

(39:25):
is no doubt he had the utmost respect from teammates
and some of the best corners and just defenses in
the NFL, Yes, throughout his playing career. And I just
think that speaks volumes for one the player that he is,
but also to the way he conducted himself. You know,
whether we whether we see what we see in the
public versus behind closed doors, I just think that speaks

(39:48):
volumes of who he is.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
You could join the conversation eight six four two four
zero five four eight zero and let's head out to
the Ingles hot line right now, the Richmond Weavers show.

Speaker 7 (39:57):
Who's this great there and what's going on? With us.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
What's happening, Chad? How are you? My friend?

Speaker 7 (40:07):
Oh? Man, were doing all right? We're doing all right, Man.
I just kind of want to chime in on the
needles call man, okay, Man, I know y'all not the
preaching channel, but honestly, Nils asking about why the sixteen
year old boy want to place the women's sports I'm

(40:28):
gonna tell you why, Rich is because God is not
in these children's homes anymore. Jesus is not in their hearts,
and they're not oving nothing the Bible, and it's saying
that God created man and God created woman and there
is no win between that. That's the main problem with
this deal. But that's just my opinion. I know what's
the strong one. And the interview with Smitty was freaking awesome.

Speaker 5 (40:51):
Rich.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
I do appreciate that, yes, we were very honored to
have Stee Smith Senior there, and that there is something
about just getting to understand a little bit more of
behind the scenes of some of these athletes that maybe
I use this word and maybe it's not idolized, but
there are certain athletes and there're certain fans that you
do you see them in a different type of scenario.

(41:15):
Based on how they are on the field or on
the court, and getting to know them just a little
bit better either strengthens or you know, you have a
better understanding of what that player is, what that individual is.
And hey, and Chad, I'm not skirting the issue in
terms of where things land. With a lot of the

(41:37):
situations going on in people's homes, that's you know, not mine.
I am a believer in faith. I'm a believer in
Christ and all of that as well, And there's just
so many factors that we just don't know, so it's
hard to get a gauged specifically on what might be
an issue what might not be an issue. But Chad,
we do appreciate the phone call as always, my friend.

(41:58):
We're getting ready to at this other break, but we
appreciate it you call any time, sir.

Speaker 7 (42:04):
I appreciate you listen to my opinion.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Man, Yes, sir, that's all right, hey, And that's what
we love about this opportunity that we can share our opinions.
And guess what, here's the thing that sometimes you disagree
to disagree, and there's no right or wrong. It's just
you have a different viewpoint and the world will still

(42:28):
continue to go around and things will still happen. We'll
still be able to celebrate, We'll still be able to
enjoy our time out here. And I do have to
get to the rich Carlisle story though, I do have
to get to that. Let's take this break and we
come back. We'll finish up as we're broadcasting live from
Thorn Blade Club, part of the BMW Charity program presented

(42:49):
by td sin X. Much more right after this, the
Tuesday edition of the Richmond Weavers Show, presented by Ingles
Markets continues right here on one O four nine five
Sports Upstate broadcasting live from Thorn Blade Club. As we're
overlooking the Ninth Green and the sun is now out
and really shining.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
It's hot out there.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
I can promise you that I did play my practice
round earlier today.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
And not too bad.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
I'm just worried that maybe I don't want to use
all good shots turned to practice round. Oshay, that's just
like going to the range, and of course you hit
great out on the range, and then it doesn't always
translate to on the course. So we'll see how it
plays out come Thursday. You only it will tee off.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
You only got so many bullets in the gun.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Yeah, that's right, Yes, exactly, all right. So Rick Carlyle,
let me tell you my story.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
So I was assistant coach at Fairleigh Dickinson University in
t net, New Jersey, nineteen ninety three, and I knew
Dale Harris, who had been the head coach of Milwaukee
Bucks and Houston Rockets, and he was good friends with
Willis Reed. And Willis Reed was now the general manager
there for the New Jersey Nets, and Chuck Dailey was
the head coach for the New Jersey Nets.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Rick Carlile was an.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Assistant coach, and I ended up getting a ticket sales
job there with the New Jersey Nets. So I went
up to Rick Carlisle though one day and said, hey,
Coach Carlisle. You know, I'm Richmond Weaver. I'm helping out
to you know, at Fairleigh Dickinson University, but also I'm
you know, wanting to do other things. You know, I

(44:18):
want to be, you know, a college basketball coach at
some point, you know, a head coach, or I just
want to be a coach, and you know, I'd love
to learn from you and help you out whatever I
might be able to do be a Gopher, whatever it is.
Since I'll be here at nights with the New Jersey
Nets doing the ticket sales. And he was a little

(44:41):
kind of put off at first, but I talked to
him again and he's like, okay, yeah, okay, well you know,
come back and and to finish like the conversation of
how it would go about what we could do. Well,
here's the thing I never followed through. I ever followed

(45:01):
up with Rick Carlile as he was the assistant coach
for the New Jersey Nets. He goes on to win
an NBA Championship with the Dallas Mavericks, and now he's
in the NBA Finals at the inn Na Pacers.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
He might be on his staff exactly. Mean that's right.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
I could be part of the staff there with Rick Carlile. Yeah,
there's my Rick Carlile story.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
All right, it is June third. Let's walk back in
a little bit of history.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
But you can skip the music, mister Falco, because I
know we're probably running close to time right here. How
about this in nineteen ninety two, Oh man, I remember this,
and people you might remember this also. This was the
Shrug Game. Michael Jordan scores a record thirty five points,
including a record six three pointers in the first half

(45:45):
as he shrugs after making the six to three pointer
there in the first half, as the Bulls would get
the one twenty two to eighty nine victory there In
the opening game of the NBA Finals in Jordan, thirty
five points in the first half, would finish with thirty
nine points and in twenty eighteen, Steph Curry would break
Ray Allen's NBA Finals record for the most three pointers

(46:07):
with nine and the Warriors one twenty two to one
oh three game number two victory over the Cleveland Cavaliers.
And Steph Curry's brother, Seth Curry is playing here this
week in the BMW charity program presented by TD Senex.
That is, this Tuesday edition of the Richmond Weavers Show
presented by Ingles Markets.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
We'll talk to you tomorrow.