April 28, 2025 • 40 mins
Darren Angell from the Wyche Law Firm joins Rich on the Friday edition for "Truth or Darren" and talk NFL Draft and NBA Playoffs. Some technical issues with Rich not pressing the correct buttons made for a shorter episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Ready to roll this Friday, and we have made it
to Friday, We have made it to the weekend, and yes,
we have made it to the NFL Draft twenty twenty five.
So we are going to break that down here on
this Friday edition of the Richmond Weaver Show presented by
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And we are a little bit solo today. Mister Trey
Falco is still out, but we do expect him back
next week. But we do have a surprise visitor that
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is joining us here as he typically does each week,
but we had to shift him to Friday, and that's
mister Darren Angel of the Wish Law Firm Truth or
Darren on this Friday, as he got to spend some
family time down in Disney World.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
And you serve you've made it.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I am here, I'm ready to go. I've got energy.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
So that's and I don't know how you have energy,
because Disney can suck it out of you, although that
is any good way that you get full advantage of
it to experience it and be able to spend time
with your family and your kids. And we were talking
about it before we jumped on air, and part of
it is is that Disney is all about the kids.
Even though my son Alex, who is now in Providence,
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Rhode Island, just graduated Clemson back in December, and this
is the guy that's twenty three years old and he
still loves Disney. So it can stay with you for
a long time. But it is about the kids because
it will be on their hard drive.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
They'll remember it.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, I mean, and you can just tell the way
they process it. I mean seeing a character for them like,
oh yeah, I think that, like what do you?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
What do?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
He was a real person, of course, and Alex he
loved Buzz Lightyear, and so I do. It can relate
back to what you're talking about with Woody, Buzz and
all of the other characters, and so it is something special.
But we're glad you're here in studio with us, and
anybody else that wants to join the conversation. You know
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you can eight six y four two four zero five
four eight zero. Again that numbers eight six y four
two four zero five four eight zero, And obviously the
listeners you can't see what I'm wearing, but I am
wearing some Cowboys gear.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And this is the NFL Draft.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
This is the time where we have some beginning of hope,
knowing that your team might be able to take advantage
of getting some players in the draft that can help them,
or they might make some decisions that you don't agree with.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
So we'll take a look at that.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
And just briefly about the Dallas Cowboys, I'm trying to
speak it into existence that they're going to do the
right thing now. Taking Tyler Booker there, offensive linement number twelve.
I wasn't immediately like a big proponent of that. I
did question it because I felt that there's some other
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needs there. But it is offensive line and that is important,
and especially the Cowboys losing some offensive linemen over the
past couple of years, and some of it through free agency,
but also through retirement. When you're talking about Hall of
Fame type of players on the offensive line for the Cowboys,
and I do think there's something about Jerry Jones right
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now seeing what the Philadelphia Eagles have done, and especially
their offensive line, and how important it is. You've got
to be able to protect the quarterback, even if it
is Dak Prescott, even if it is a guy that
we don't know if he's really going to be a
quarterback that can bring home gosh, not even a super
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Bowl for the Dallas Cowboys. I'm talking about just making
a run in the playoffs. That's all I'm talking about
right now. But hey, we're going to be optimistic. And
that's why I'm like, I'm still all in on the Cowboys.
I don't know how the rest of the draft is
going to go, but I would have to say, at
least my initial thoughts maybe a B B minus for
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the Cowboys with that first pick at number twelve.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You know, I'm always growing up watching mostly miserable Bears
football teams, and honestly, one of the main reasons always
being seemingly that they just do not have a good
enough offensive line. I have become a real strong proponent
of if you're not gonna if there's not a skilled
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position player that screams out to you, or a you know,
an edge rusher or maybe a linebacker that can really
really change the game. I have become kind of a
proponent of look beef up your offensive line, especially higher
up in the draft, because you talk you talk about
first fifteen to twenty, heck even into the first round,
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but I think twelve is still a number where you
can you can really get a guy that can change
your offensive line pretty quickly. And we all know you
can be you can have an all pro, all everything,
PROBO caliber quarterback and frankly even running back. But if
you don't have an offensive line, you're just not going
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to be able to take the next step. And so
I always I will say this too. The last thing
I'll say on it is I have to say there
are always diamonds in the rough, and there are always
guys that can come from different places that have had
great careers. But you take a guy that's been successful
at a place like Alabama, Georgia, Michigan, especially on those lines,
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you look at the last ten to fifteen years, there's
a pretty good track record of at a minimum, even
if you've been conservative, those guys have gone on to
have there have been very few busts. Let's put that.
Let's put it that.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
That's right, and I think there's something to be said
about the level of competition. I do understand that, and
that doesn't mean in every position, but for the offense
of line. I mean, you want the big nasties going
up against other big nasties in their college career. And
that's what's so hard to be able to translate that.
Can you have that same type of intensity, same type
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of level of play in the NFL where it's so
much harder. But then you look at Booker's some of
his numbers, and that's where you have to be careful.
How much are you buying into the combine numbers and
some of those don't add up to what you might
find successful based on just quote unquote numbers. And there's
more to it than just that. And that's why I've
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talked about it several times is that this is an art,
this is not a science. So these guys are trying
to figure this out. But from an offensive line standpoint,
I think there are some trends that are pretty consistent
and so hopefully that will play out for the Dallas Cowboys.
As again the NFL Draft in Green Bay, and according
to Adam Schefter, I did see this and he got
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this from a league official that the attendance was two
hundred and five thousand people in Green Bay for this draft.
And this is a city that's just over one hundred
thousand populations, so double the population there. But I love
the number two hundred and five thousand even that was it.
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There ain't no way that it was two hundred and
five thousand even there had to be some type of
difference there. Easy just to say two hundred and five
thousand just rounded up. But we did have the ninetieth
NFL Draft at lambeau Field. No surprise, Titans there at
number one knew they weren't going to move off. They
already talked about it, and all the reports were that
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cam Ward was going to be the number one pick,
and that played true as he's the number one pick
there from the Miami Hurricanes. And I would have to
say also this showcases though when you think about the
transfer portal, Look how cam Ward was able to use
the transfer portal and vait his NFL stuck and where
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he is from innut cart Word to Washington State and
then to Miami and then now the.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Number one overall pick in the NFL draft, and timing.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Just worked out really well for him because this is
a draft this past season that the quarterback class was
not top heavy, so it was good for him to
be able to be in that position. And then the
surprise though, the Jaguars making a bold move moving up
to trade with the Browns there and they grabbed Travis Hunter,
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and then we did see the fall the slide. You
knew what was going to happen Shador Sanders. So many
reports were coming out at the last hour that GMS
player personnel coaches were not impressed with Shador Sanders. And
now how there was a complete I shouldn't say complete switch,
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but there was almost a complete difference from what we
were hearing from evaluators, NFL draft pundits and what they
were hearing versus what actually was happening behind closed doors
with NFL personnel and how they were evaluating Shador Sanders.
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And then there's also the Dion Sanders effect, as he
was out there touting this guy is going to be
a top five pick in the NFL, and so you
start hearing that, you start hearing Dion Sanders talk about that,
so it just starts getting into your psyche that, oh, well,
Shoudoor Sanders is going to be one of the top
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quarterbacks taken and he'll easily be you know, in the
first round. Not so fast, my friend, as Lee Corso
would say, as he was not taken.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
No, no, And I'll say this, I mean I was
looking this morning. You look at round two, you got Cleveland.
It's a quarterback. They've got to in the first five.
But after that, I mean, I know, the same have
a pick and they're they're you know, they're a team
of interest, and you know, the Jets could potentially maybe
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make a move at forty two. You know, there's been
rumors about the Rams maybe wanting to start a process
of prepping somebody, you know, behind Matthew Stafford. But I
mean you get outside of those franchises and there's not
really a team on the list that needs a quarterback
in round two. So it's I mean, it's conceivable that
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he doesn't go around too. It's it's I don't know,
I don't know how likely, but it's conceivable he's available
in the third round.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, I think there is a high probability that he
is going to fall until the third round. So I
think there's something to be said even when you're looking
at cam Ward based on him being number one overall,
and I think it's probably the right move for the
Titans to be able to draft him number one. In sometime,
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there's such a reach for a quarterback and the FOMO,
the fear of missing out of some of these guys,
and that's why you reach for these players in especially
the quarterback position. But when you look at cam Ward's
stats in college in twenty twenty four, four thousand passing yards,
thirty six touchdowns, seven interceptions, almost a sixty eight percent
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completion rate at Miami. But according to Daniel Jeremiah, the
scouting grade is similar to Bo Nicks, which was not
a top tier type of prospect like Caleb Williams was
last year.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
So is it a reach? Now?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
The Titans have struggled at quarterback. Will Levis last year
ranked thirtieth in QBR at forty two and had twelve
touchdowns and fourteen interceptions. That's not going to win you
many games in the NFL. So I think from the
Titans perspective, it's like, well, do we have anything better?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And can we roll the dice with cam Ward? That's
just a risky role though with the number one overall pick.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
It is you know, and I think we are kind
of in this era though of it's really hard if
you don't have a quarterback one obviously to consistently win,
but two there I mean, there's just not a ton
of franchise quarterbacks that end up going elsewhere in free
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agency over the last several years, right, and so you know,
in a year where the quarterback position was heavy, yeah,
I mean, he certainly probably doesn't go number one. But
I'm just I'm wondering if a lot of these franchises
are just thinking at this point, we have to roll
the dice because guess what if any of these guys
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ever reached free agency that we would want, are we
going to be able to get him? And you know,
so I think you've seen. One of the reasons you've
seen a lot of these quarterbacks go so high and
such a frequent number of them is partially because well,
I mean, we're probably not gonna be able to field
elsewhere with att if this guy hits, like he could
be the guy and yeah, he might not hit, but
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you know, we're in no word shape no here. Now
that's right, Costic, do you have a job. But that's
the problem.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
There's some of these guys that and I think that
would be the tailtale sign for shad Or Sanders. Say
he's picked at you know, one of the top ten picks, well,
if he doesn't pan out, then that's where especially based
on the information that we were hearing, the reports that
we were hearing, then you're really reaching from that standpoint.
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And that's where a GM coach they might not even
see how should or Sanders plays after year one because
they would be fired. Yeah, they would be shown the
exit sign. But the trade though, that I did find
very interesting, and that's the Jaguars and the Browns there
as the Jaguars sent picks number five, number thirty six,
one thirty six, and a twenty twenty six first rounder
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to Cleveland for the number two pick, which they do
did use on Travis Hunter, the one hundred and fourth pick,
the two hundredth pick, and a twenty twenty six first
So Hunter's stats there when you look at him as
a cornerback thirty one tackles, four interceptions, eleven PBUs passes
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broken up, and as a wide receiver ninety two catches
for eleven hundred and fifty two yards and fourteen touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
PFF gave him.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
A grade of ninety one point one coverage grade, which
was the highest amount quarterback cornerbacks with over four hundred snaps,
and an eighty eight point five receiving grade. So the
versatility as a two way player is off the charge
and somewhat of a rare chess piece type of player
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there with Travis Hunter and especially now in Liam Cohen's
offense there in Jacksonville, but Jacksonville also you know with
twenty ninth ranking and total defense and twenty six ranking
and scoring offense, it was something that can they play
him at both positions? And I think there's a big
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part Jacksonville that does intend to play him at both positions.
And I think there's something to be said about even
at wide receiver standpoint, because according to Warren Sharp, who
I follow on X does a great job of breaking
down all NFL data points and analysis talked about that.
The reports are that Travis Hunter rarely was in any
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type of wide receiver meetings at Colorado because he was
more focused on the defensive side. So when you think
about it from that perspective, how good he was as
a wide receiver And can you imagine when the NFL
gets a hold of him and gets to actually train
him and gets to coach him up as a wide receiver.
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So I love the possibility, even just from a storyline standpoint,
I would love to see a two way player to
be able to play on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, And I'll say this like I could end up
eating my words, and I think you make great points,
by the way, and I may eat my words, but
I kind of feel like my gut tells me that
they don't give up the draft capital that they gave
up if they weren't necessarily planning on it at a
minimum going into this saying we're going to play on
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both sides of the ball because they gave up a
fair amount of draft capital for a team that bankly
has a lot of holes and a lot of needs.
But if you can potentially fill two holes that you
need strengthen with one pick, well you know you may
have just done that. And to your point, I mean,
the fact that he barely sat in on meetings with
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the wide receivers and put up the numbers he put
up is absolutely I'd not heard that. That's insane.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And I think there's something too about the Jacksonville franchise,
and I know it's a new head coach, new offensive
personnel from a coaching prispan perspective, and even on the
defensive side. I get all of that, and how well
do you even know your personnel at this point to
be able to give up that much draft capital to
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get a player like Travis Hunter? But I think if
you're Jacksonville, why not. I mean, you made a splash
with Trevor Lawrence and there's still questions about what his
future is going to be and can he make that
big jump that everybody thought he was going to be
able to make after his second season there, and again
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all of the turmoil that happened with Urban Meyer as
the head coach and then Doug Peterson coming in, so
there hasn't been really.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
A whole lot of stability.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
But Jacksonville just seems like one of those organizations in
the NFL that I think a lot of times you
just forget about. And I think of like the examples
of if you went out and asked people, okay, name
the thirty two NFL teams.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
People would go through the list, they'd get to thirty
one and they're like.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Oh gosh, what's that last what's that last NFL team.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I can't think of it.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, and it would be Jacksonville because I think Jacksonville
is just one of those forgotten NFL organizations.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
They go to Europe a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
We do know that to play and maybe there is
a reason why, but it's just something that I think
for when you look at that, I would actually go
ahead and do something like this, and why not roll
the dice on somebody like Travis Hunter?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah, I agree. I mean I like the move. If
I'm Jacksonville, you got nothing. You got nothing to lose,
really because you, for the most part, have not been
good for the last decade. And you know, you get
a guy that the towncip fills two holes. He is
on paper, he's a generational type talent and it seems
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like he's got a really dynamic personality that will be
really positive in the locker room. And so I agree
with you. I think this is a really I like
the move. And you know, it's funny you bring up
the Jaguars. I kind of compare the Jaguars a little
bit to like the Sacramento Kings in the NBA at
times where it's like the forgotten franchise of like, man,
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you know, do you wanna do you want to go there?
But you know, I like the move from the standpoint
of this potentially can maybe hopefully put them on the
map a little bit more. And you know he has
the potential to make an impact on both sides of
the ball right away.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, I think so too. Again, I think if you're Jacksonville,
you go ahead and do that. And speaking of NBA,
we are going to talk a little NBA playoffs coming up.
As you heard, we're almost trying to take a break
a little early there, but we will make sure to
continue talking about the NFL Draft and what did we
see history being made last night in the NBA with OKC.
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want to. As we are continuing here, mister Darren Angel
from the Weisch Law Firm joining us. A truth or Darren,
And so I have to ask you a truth or
Darren right here? Truth or Darren. The NFL taking the
NFL Draft on the road the road show is a
good thing for the NFL.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I think it's been a overwhelming success. I mean it
was in Chicago, and we lived in Chicago, and it
was awesome.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
There's no doubt. There's something about just again the opportunity
of being there, the environment, the stage, everything surrounding at
Roger Goodell, all of that. And there's also just from
a perspective of it is the NFL, and so it's
the big bad NFL. You see the shield, you see
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all of the personalities that are there. And I think
it's a marketing genius, yes, for the NFL to be
able to take it on the road and be able
to take be able to create the sense of community,
and especially in a place like Green Bay where small
market and this was a place where Arena Football League
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at one point didn't think that Green Bay was big
enough to have arena football there. This was after the
NFL has already been there in Green Bay. And it
just makes me laugh that that's one of the things
that it's not always about just the money and how
big an organization is from a spending dollars perspective. It's
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how well run they are. And the Green Bay Packers
are very well run. And we know it's a public
company that people can have ownership in the company. Now
they're not running the organization. They obviously have a board.
They also have a president, general manager, all of that.
I just think it's a well run organization from top
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to bottom.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
No, it is. I mean, it's there's a reason we've
talked about this before. I think there's typically a reason
why franchises, no matter the sport, are either very successful
or continuously struggling to succeed. And I really think it
starts at the top with ownership. And I mean, you
look at the Packers. They're good every single year, and
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they've been that way for basically my entire lifetime. Yes,
you know, since the early nineties, they've been competitive to
compete for championships almost every year, and I think it
starts because it's just it's a well run organization. And
I will say this, especially being a Midwest guy, like
they love football. Yes, I mean fans love love.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Them some football.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I mean that is something that brings the community together.
And then when you start winning, even more so. And
so they have a rich history of athletic dominance. And
then when you talk about events Lombardi, you talk about
the goats, those type of individuals, and then you can
from a coaching perspective, and then you go down the
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list in terms of players and everything that they've mist
And now what will Aaron Rodgers do that we know
he's already left the organization and creating a pathway almost
similar to Brett Farv who he followed up. And I
think there's something to be said about now the NFL Draft,
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how much is going to be impacted with Aaron Rodgers
and his decision. Did the Pittsburgh Steelers did they not
make a move with shroor Sanders there at twenty one
based on maybe they've got some intail that Aaron Rodgers
is going to come to Pittsburgh. There's all types of
reports out there. Nobody really knows right at this moment.
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But it is interesting just how Aaron Rodgers might be
holding the cards in terms of another domino that might
be falling for quarterbacks in this NFL draft.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
For sure. I mean, I think you bring up an
interesting point with Pittsburgh in particular, because even if Aaron
Rodgers goes there, I get it's a one or two
year band aid. And I don't mean to make Aaron
Rodgers seem like a band aid, because I do.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I think he is a band aid right now. Yeah,
I mean he based on his career, he is.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
From the perspective of obviously it's a it's a short
term thing. But I think if you have a good
team around him, I still want to see if he
can if he can get it done in an elite level.
I mean I'm not I'm not fully convinced he can't
in the right situation.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, from a.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Radio show perspective, it's good to have Aaron Rodgers try
to make a comeback, yeah, because it's something to talk about.
It's something that people will be polarized about, good or bad.
It's Aaron Rodgers, and he's going to somewhat move the
needle because to your point, There's going to be some
people that want to see that he can have a
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third chapter in his career, so to speak, and there's
going to be others that don't want to see him succeed.
And I think that moves the needle and gets people
talking about it. So, just from a content perspective, yes,
I'm all about Aaron Rodgers coming back out and seeing
what he can do. And part of me agrees with you.
Though I love comeback stories. I love situations where people
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are counted out. I just don't think Aaron Rodgers is
going to be able to do it based on his
age and the previous injury and how he's slowing down
to a certain degree. And at this point of your career,
how much are you committed to be able to have
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a very successful career to lead a team in the playoffs.
It's one thing to go out there and be quarterback
for the NFL. I still think Aaron Rodgers can do
that just because of the god given abilities that he has.
But to be able to take a team and advance
them in the playoffs, I think it takes much more.
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And I'm just not certain Aaron Rodgers, based on the
information that I've seen some of the reports. Again, have
no idea what's going on in his head as far
as his commitment level and doing the things that you
have to do in the off season to be ready
to take a team deep into the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I think you make an excellent point. You hit the
nail on the head, and it's that level of commitment.
And you know, I think it's easy to look at
a guy like Tom Brady and say, well, you know,
like he was just he kept his body in great shape.
He was really good. Now, I mean Tom Brady in
those Tampa years was doing the exact same things that
he was doing in year three and four and five
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and six in New England in terms of preparation, and so,
you know, I mean, I think the commitment thing is
probably the biggest thing to me is he is he
committed to do what it takes to try and be
able to have that third chapter. And I'm not saying
that he doesn't. And look, it's not necessarily the easiest
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thing to do when you're forty forty one years old
to be able to still go after it like you
were when you're twenty eight and twenty nine. But I
think that's the biggest thing is that is that commitment,
because you just can't. I don't care who you are.
I mean maybe maybe a couple guys, and as great
as he is, I think he's one of them can
come in right when they need to and just turn
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it on it, even at age forty one, and be great.
And I just don't think I don't think he can
do that. I think I think the commitment thing is
the real the real issue.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I think there could be something to that. Let us
know your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Join the conversation eight six four two four zero five
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Speaker 2 (28:31):
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Speaker 4 (28:33):
Hey, this is Roger and Anderson.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Roger.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Are you doing my friend?
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I'm doing good. I appreciate you getting me get me
on the show, Yes, sir. Look, I don't like to
see someone targeted unfairly. I'm not saying Suder was. I
think that it's pretty obvious though, when you look at
the coverage of of him draft and then you look
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at the reaction to him not getting drafted, and he
is the constant focus now and he was last night too.
Once the picks started going and he wasn't taken. And
then you see this, uh I call it fake outrage
from these talking heads all over sports media. You're using
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all kinds of crazy reasons why he's not drafted. The
bottom line is to me, when you look at the
reaction and the coverage of him, you can understand why
he hasn't has not been taken yet. No NFL team
that I can think of, maybe Dallas, because there's such
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a circus anyway, and Jerry and Jerry and his and
his ridiculous way he runs his team. He might reach
up there tonight and take him. I don't know. The
bottom line is, so when you look at the reaction
and when you look at the the way that they
talk about him, Yes, it's because of his father and
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when he is drafted, whatever team takes him. And maybe
it's unfair to Shador I think, and part it is
because he didn't you know, I don't know that he's
encouraged his father to be as Dion's always been outspoken,
He's always searched the limelight. That's why he calls himself Prime.
No one gave him that name. He put that name
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on himself, and he tries to live up to it,
you know, every day. But no NFL team wants to
bring that kind of spotlight to their to their organization.
You're talking about Dion uh going to Is he going
to be at ot as whoever team drafts him, It'll
be like Broni Bronnie James times one hundred. I mean,
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you're gonna have Deon showing up at OTAs, Deon showing
up in pre season, Deon showing up during the season
even as a as a coach of Colorado, he was
he'd probably make a trip to see his son play
or or walk the sideline. Who knows no team wants that,
no locker room wants that. I'm you know, is it unfair?
(31:12):
I don't know, Maybe not. I know I wouldn't want
that kind of element overshadowing and looming over my franchise.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, And there's something to be said about not only
on the field, type of ability and how players will
interact in a locker room. And I do believe that
the NFL, for the most part, they do a really
good job of policing the locker room, and organizations will
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move on from players when they think there might be
a cancer there, especially if they don't have that elite
level type of talent Roger, and I'm not certain that
Shador Sanders has that type of talent to be in
the NFL. Can he be an NFL player, It remains
to be seen. He will definitely get drafted. I think
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that's very well known, and I think it's easy to
that's not a reach by saying he's going to get drafted.
Somebody will take a chance on Shador Sanders. But there
is a lot more that comes with Shador Sanders than
just his ability to play quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Yeah, it's all that baggage, and it's not his baggage.
Now he does go out there, he but he doesn't
dress any different lead than any of the other young
men that get drafted. Some of them dress more outlandishly
and some of them dressed with more jewelry and in
ways that draw attention, and some of them don't. Most
of them, they all pretty much do that. It's not
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that it's just his father is going to bring a
big spotlight to whatever team drafts him, and there's going
to be pressure on and this is unfair pressure on
Shador to not only make a run at a starting
job once he is the starter. The spotlight's going to
be on him to produce. That's not really fair. We've
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seen so many first round quarterbacks not named Shador Sanders
with much less family, not to riot, he fail because
teams put them in a bad situation or a bad
offensive system and they don't succeed. It's just Deon brings
everything else, all that extra stuff that Dion brings is
going to be put on whatever team drafts should do.
(33:28):
And honestly, there's some comparisons with Aaron Rodgers too. Aaron Rodgers,
his talent is no longer, you know, makes up for
his mouth. He can't. He can't keep his mouth shut.
We don't care if you go sit in a cave
for a week. We don't care if you're smoking hiahuasca
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or whatever that stuff is that he's puffing on. No
one cares about that, you know, Aaron. All we care
about is can you play? And can you do your chomp?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
That's right?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
And yeah, And there's something to be said about fans
will they will give you grace to a certain degree
as far as some of your idio secrecies or some
of your quirks.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
And Aaron's been able.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
To be quirky over the years because he's been an
MVP type of quarterback. And we know that he led
the Green Bay Packers to a super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
But he's only got one as great.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
As a long time ago brother.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
He's only got one.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
That was twenty ten, the twenty ten season, twenty eleven.
Now I think he's been I think he's a Hall
of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Oh, there's no question.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
There's been a lot of There's been a lot of quarterbacks.
He never made another Super Bowl. Let's be clear. He
made that one and he got his ring. He never
made it to another one and lost quite a few
NFC championship games and division round games. He's not a winner. Yeah,
I wouldn't put him in certainly he doesn't. I wouldn't
put him in a winner category. I compare him to
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other quarterbacks who do win occasionally and put up great stats.
But Aaron, again, it's like Shador Sanders, but it's it's
Aaron doesn't have a father. He just brings it all
with himself. He loads up all his baggage, and I, honestly,
I don't know what team wants to have that kind
of spotlight because you're talking about NFL teams tend to
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be very conservative. They want to do their business, they
want to get their team ready, they want to put
their best product on the field without any of this
other stuff that brings, you know, the locker room under
a spotlight. That's why a lot of teams don't do that.
What was the HBO show, the Hit Show or whatever
(35:40):
it was, Hard Knock, Hard Knock. Nobody wants Nobody wants that.
They only get the Scrubby franchises to do that. But
I'll tell you what I'm if I was a Panthers fan,
and I know that they would not because I don't
see them. I would never think they would take Shador.
But it's a tough fit. It's tough, and I feel
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kind of bad for the kid because Dion honestly can't
help himself. He will go to whatever franchise. And I've
seen videos of him, uh last from last night when
his son wasn't drafted. They got the camera on his room,
the Sanders house or wherever it was. And then you've
got all these people. It's been all costed, all talk
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all day. I'll click on you know a few different
shows and they're that's all they're talking about is a
kid that wasn't is a kid that wasn't drafted, Not
the great players and breaking down players that were drafted.
They're just talking about Shador because it's a what do
you want to call it? A lightning rod of of
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topical conversation. And that's what these shows are all about,
whether it's you know, the first Take shows and all
those other shows that dominate these networks. Now they've gone
away from highlights and actual breaking down performances and they
just want to go for the gossip.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, there is something to be said about that for certain,
and Roger, we appreciate the phone call.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yes, we got to jump to this break right here.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
We do appreciate it as always, and anybody else that
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Ready to roll this Friday, and we have made it
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Speaker 2 (00:59):
And you serve you've made it.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I am here, I'm ready to go. I've got energy.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
So that's and I don't know how you have energy,
because Disney can suck it out of you, although that
is any good way that you get full advantage of
it to experience it and be able to spend time
with your family and your kids. And we were talking
about it before we jumped on air, and part of
it is is that Disney is all about the kids.
Even though my son Alex, who is now in Providence,
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Rhode Island, just graduated Clemson back in December, and this
is the guy that's twenty three years old and he
still loves Disney. So it can stay with you for
a long time. But it is about the kids because
it will be on their hard drive.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
They'll remember it.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, I mean, and you can just tell the way
they process it. I mean seeing a character for them like,
oh yeah, I think that, like what do you?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
What do?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
He was a real person, of course, and Alex he
loved Buzz Lightyear, and so I do. It can relate
back to what you're talking about with Woody, Buzz and
all of the other characters, and so it is something special.
But we're glad you're here in studio with us, and
anybody else that wants to join the conversation. You know
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you can eight six y four two four zero five
four eight zero. Again that numbers eight six y four
two four zero five four eight zero, And obviously the
listeners you can't see what I'm wearing, but I am
wearing some Cowboys gear.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And this is the NFL Draft.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
This is the time where we have some beginning of hope,
knowing that your team might be able to take advantage
of getting some players in the draft that can help them,
or they might make some decisions that you don't agree with.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
So we'll take a look at that.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
And just briefly about the Dallas Cowboys, I'm trying to
speak it into existence that they're going to do the
right thing now. Taking Tyler Booker there, offensive linement number twelve.
I wasn't immediately like a big proponent of that. I
did question it because I felt that there's some other
(03:08):
needs there. But it is offensive line and that is important,
and especially the Cowboys losing some offensive linemen over the
past couple of years, and some of it through free agency,
but also through retirement. When you're talking about Hall of
Fame type of players on the offensive line for the Cowboys,
and I do think there's something about Jerry Jones right
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now seeing what the Philadelphia Eagles have done, and especially
their offensive line, and how important it is. You've got
to be able to protect the quarterback, even if it
is Dak Prescott, even if it is a guy that
we don't know if he's really going to be a
quarterback that can bring home gosh, not even a super
(03:50):
Bowl for the Dallas Cowboys. I'm talking about just making
a run in the playoffs. That's all I'm talking about
right now. But hey, we're going to be optimistic. And
that's why I'm like, I'm still all in on the Cowboys.
I don't know how the rest of the draft is
going to go, but I would have to say, at
least my initial thoughts maybe a B B minus for
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the Cowboys with that first pick at number twelve.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You know, I'm always growing up watching mostly miserable Bears
football teams, and honestly, one of the main reasons always
being seemingly that they just do not have a good
enough offensive line. I have become a real strong proponent
of if you're not gonna if there's not a skilled
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position player that screams out to you, or a you know,
an edge rusher or maybe a linebacker that can really
really change the game. I have become kind of a
proponent of look beef up your offensive line, especially higher
up in the draft, because you talk you talk about
first fifteen to twenty, heck even into the first round,
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but I think twelve is still a number where you
can you can really get a guy that can change
your offensive line pretty quickly. And we all know you
can be you can have an all pro, all everything,
PROBO caliber quarterback and frankly even running back. But if
you don't have an offensive line, you're just not going
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to be able to take the next step. And so
I always I will say this too. The last thing
I'll say on it is I have to say there
are always diamonds in the rough, and there are always
guys that can come from different places that have had
great careers. But you take a guy that's been successful
at a place like Alabama, Georgia, Michigan, especially on those lines,
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you look at the last ten to fifteen years, there's
a pretty good track record of at a minimum, even
if you've been conservative, those guys have gone on to
have there have been very few busts. Let's put that.
Let's put it that.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
That's right, and I think there's something to be said
about the level of competition. I do understand that, and
that doesn't mean in every position, but for the offense
of line. I mean, you want the big nasties going
up against other big nasties in their college career. And
that's what's so hard to be able to translate that.
Can you have that same type of intensity, same type
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of level of play in the NFL where it's so
much harder. But then you look at Booker's some of
his numbers, and that's where you have to be careful.
How much are you buying into the combine numbers and
some of those don't add up to what you might
find successful based on just quote unquote numbers. And there's
more to it than just that. And that's why I've
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talked about it several times is that this is an art,
this is not a science. So these guys are trying
to figure this out. But from an offensive line standpoint,
I think there are some trends that are pretty consistent
and so hopefully that will play out for the Dallas Cowboys.
As again the NFL Draft in Green Bay, and according
to Adam Schefter, I did see this and he got
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this from a league official that the attendance was two
hundred and five thousand people in Green Bay for this draft.
And this is a city that's just over one hundred
thousand populations, so double the population there. But I love
the number two hundred and five thousand even that was it.
(07:19):
There ain't no way that it was two hundred and
five thousand even there had to be some type of
difference there. Easy just to say two hundred and five
thousand just rounded up. But we did have the ninetieth
NFL Draft at lambeau Field. No surprise, Titans there at
number one knew they weren't going to move off. They
already talked about it, and all the reports were that
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cam Ward was going to be the number one pick,
and that played true as he's the number one pick
there from the Miami Hurricanes. And I would have to
say also this showcases though when you think about the
transfer portal, Look how cam Ward was able to use
the transfer portal and vait his NFL stuck and where
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he is from innut cart Word to Washington State and
then to Miami and then now the.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Number one overall pick in the NFL draft, and timing.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Just worked out really well for him because this is
a draft this past season that the quarterback class was
not top heavy, so it was good for him to
be able to be in that position. And then the
surprise though, the Jaguars making a bold move moving up
to trade with the Browns there and they grabbed Travis Hunter,
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and then we did see the fall the slide. You
knew what was going to happen Shador Sanders. So many
reports were coming out at the last hour that GMS
player personnel coaches were not impressed with Shador Sanders. And
now how there was a complete I shouldn't say complete switch,
(08:58):
but there was almost a complete difference from what we
were hearing from evaluators, NFL draft pundits and what they
were hearing versus what actually was happening behind closed doors
with NFL personnel and how they were evaluating Shador Sanders.
(09:20):
And then there's also the Dion Sanders effect, as he
was out there touting this guy is going to be
a top five pick in the NFL, and so you
start hearing that, you start hearing Dion Sanders talk about that,
so it just starts getting into your psyche that, oh, well,
Shoudoor Sanders is going to be one of the top
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quarterbacks taken and he'll easily be you know, in the
first round. Not so fast, my friend, as Lee Corso
would say, as he was not taken.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
No, no, And I'll say this, I mean I was
looking this morning. You look at round two, you got Cleveland.
It's a quarterback. They've got to in the first five.
But after that, I mean, I know, the same have
a pick and they're they're you know, they're a team
of interest, and you know, the Jets could potentially maybe
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make a move at forty two. You know, there's been
rumors about the Rams maybe wanting to start a process
of prepping somebody, you know, behind Matthew Stafford. But I
mean you get outside of those franchises and there's not
really a team on the list that needs a quarterback
in round two. So it's I mean, it's conceivable that
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he doesn't go around too. It's it's I don't know,
I don't know how likely, but it's conceivable he's available
in the third round.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, I think there is a high probability that he
is going to fall until the third round. So I
think there's something to be said even when you're looking
at cam Ward based on him being number one overall,
and I think it's probably the right move for the
Titans to be able to draft him number one. In sometime,
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there's such a reach for a quarterback and the FOMO,
the fear of missing out of some of these guys,
and that's why you reach for these players in especially
the quarterback position. But when you look at cam Ward's
stats in college in twenty twenty four, four thousand passing yards,
thirty six touchdowns, seven interceptions, almost a sixty eight percent
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completion rate at Miami. But according to Daniel Jeremiah, the
scouting grade is similar to Bo Nicks, which was not
a top tier type of prospect like Caleb Williams was
last year.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
So is it a reach? Now?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
The Titans have struggled at quarterback. Will Levis last year
ranked thirtieth in QBR at forty two and had twelve
touchdowns and fourteen interceptions. That's not going to win you
many games in the NFL. So I think from the
Titans perspective, it's like, well, do we have anything better?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And can we roll the dice with cam Ward? That's
just a risky role though with the number one overall pick.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
It is you know, and I think we are kind
of in this era though of it's really hard if
you don't have a quarterback one obviously to consistently win,
but two there I mean, there's just not a ton
of franchise quarterbacks that end up going elsewhere in free
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agency over the last several years, right, and so you know,
in a year where the quarterback position was heavy, yeah,
I mean, he certainly probably doesn't go number one. But
I'm just I'm wondering if a lot of these franchises
are just thinking at this point, we have to roll
the dice because guess what if any of these guys
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ever reached free agency that we would want, are we
going to be able to get him? And you know,
so I think you've seen. One of the reasons you've
seen a lot of these quarterbacks go so high and
such a frequent number of them is partially because well,
I mean, we're probably not gonna be able to field
elsewhere with att if this guy hits, like he could
be the guy and yeah, he might not hit, but
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you know, we're in no word shape no here. Now
that's right, Costic, do you have a job. But that's
the problem.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
There's some of these guys that and I think that
would be the tailtale sign for shad Or Sanders. Say
he's picked at you know, one of the top ten picks, well,
if he doesn't pan out, then that's where especially based
on the information that we were hearing, the reports that
we were hearing, then you're really reaching from that standpoint.
(13:35):
And that's where a GM coach they might not even
see how should or Sanders plays after year one because
they would be fired. Yeah, they would be shown the
exit sign. But the trade though, that I did find
very interesting, and that's the Jaguars and the Browns there
as the Jaguars sent picks number five, number thirty six,
one thirty six, and a twenty twenty six first rounder
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to Cleveland for the number two pick, which they do
did use on Travis Hunter, the one hundred and fourth pick,
the two hundredth pick, and a twenty twenty six first
So Hunter's stats there when you look at him as
a cornerback thirty one tackles, four interceptions, eleven PBUs passes
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broken up, and as a wide receiver ninety two catches
for eleven hundred and fifty two yards and fourteen touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
PFF gave him.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
A grade of ninety one point one coverage grade, which
was the highest amount quarterback cornerbacks with over four hundred snaps,
and an eighty eight point five receiving grade. So the
versatility as a two way player is off the charge
and somewhat of a rare chess piece type of player
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there with Travis Hunter and especially now in Liam Cohen's
offense there in Jacksonville, but Jacksonville also you know with
twenty ninth ranking and total defense and twenty six ranking
and scoring offense, it was something that can they play
him at both positions? And I think there's a big
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part Jacksonville that does intend to play him at both positions.
And I think there's something to be said about even
at wide receiver standpoint, because according to Warren Sharp, who
I follow on X does a great job of breaking
down all NFL data points and analysis talked about that.
The reports are that Travis Hunter rarely was in any
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type of wide receiver meetings at Colorado because he was
more focused on the defensive side. So when you think
about it from that perspective, how good he was as
a wide receiver And can you imagine when the NFL
gets a hold of him and gets to actually train
him and gets to coach him up as a wide receiver.
(15:58):
So I love the possibility, even just from a storyline standpoint,
I would love to see a two way player to
be able to play on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, And I'll say this like I could end up
eating my words, and I think you make great points,
by the way, and I may eat my words, but
I kind of feel like my gut tells me that
they don't give up the draft capital that they gave
up if they weren't necessarily planning on it at a
minimum going into this saying we're going to play on
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both sides of the ball because they gave up a
fair amount of draft capital for a team that bankly
has a lot of holes and a lot of needs.
But if you can potentially fill two holes that you
need strengthen with one pick, well you know you may
have just done that. And to your point, I mean,
the fact that he barely sat in on meetings with
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the wide receivers and put up the numbers he put
up is absolutely I'd not heard that. That's insane.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And I think there's something too about the Jacksonville franchise,
and I know it's a new head coach, new offensive
personnel from a coaching prispan perspective, and even on the
defensive side. I get all of that, and how well
do you even know your personnel at this point to
be able to give up that much draft capital to
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get a player like Travis Hunter? But I think if
you're Jacksonville, why not. I mean, you made a splash
with Trevor Lawrence and there's still questions about what his
future is going to be and can he make that
big jump that everybody thought he was going to be
able to make after his second season there, and again
(17:40):
all of the turmoil that happened with Urban Meyer as
the head coach and then Doug Peterson coming in, so
there hasn't been really.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
A whole lot of stability.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
But Jacksonville just seems like one of those organizations in
the NFL that I think a lot of times you
just forget about. And I think of like the examples
of if you went out and asked people, okay, name
the thirty two NFL teams.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
People would go through the list, they'd get to thirty
one and they're like.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Oh gosh, what's that last what's that last NFL team.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I can't think of it.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, and it would be Jacksonville because I think Jacksonville
is just one of those forgotten NFL organizations.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
They go to Europe a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
We do know that to play and maybe there is
a reason why, but it's just something that I think
for when you look at that, I would actually go
ahead and do something like this, and why not roll
the dice on somebody like Travis Hunter?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah, I agree. I mean I like the move. If
I'm Jacksonville, you got nothing. You got nothing to lose,
really because you, for the most part, have not been
good for the last decade. And you know, you get
a guy that the towncip fills two holes. He is
on paper, he's a generational type talent and it seems
(19:04):
like he's got a really dynamic personality that will be
really positive in the locker room. And so I agree
with you. I think this is a really I like
the move. And you know, it's funny you bring up
the Jaguars. I kind of compare the Jaguars a little
bit to like the Sacramento Kings in the NBA at
times where it's like the forgotten franchise of like, man,
(19:26):
you know, do you wanna do you want to go there?
But you know, I like the move from the standpoint
of this potentially can maybe hopefully put them on the
map a little bit more. And you know he has
the potential to make an impact on both sides of
the ball right away.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, I think so too. Again, I think if you're Jacksonville,
you go ahead and do that. And speaking of NBA,
we are going to talk a little NBA playoffs coming up.
As you heard, we're almost trying to take a break
a little early there, but we will make sure to
continue talking about the NFL Draft and what did we
see history being made last night in the NBA with OKC.
(20:06):
Much more of this Friday edition of the Richmond Weaver
Show presented by Ingles Markets. Right after this, the Friday
edition of The Richmond Weaver Show presented by Ingles Markets
continues right here on one O four nine Fox Sports Upstate.
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want to. As we are continuing here, mister Darren Angel
from the Weisch Law Firm joining us. A truth or Darren,
And so I have to ask you a truth or
Darren right here? Truth or Darren. The NFL taking the
NFL Draft on the road the road show is a
good thing for the NFL.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I think it's been a overwhelming success. I mean it
was in Chicago, and we lived in Chicago, and it
was awesome.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
There's no doubt. There's something about just again the opportunity
of being there, the environment, the stage, everything surrounding at
Roger Goodell, all of that. And there's also just from
a perspective of it is the NFL, and so it's
the big bad NFL. You see the shield, you see
(21:39):
all of the personalities that are there. And I think
it's a marketing genius, yes, for the NFL to be
able to take it on the road and be able
to take be able to create the sense of community,
and especially in a place like Green Bay where small
market and this was a place where Arena Football League
(22:03):
at one point didn't think that Green Bay was big
enough to have arena football there. This was after the
NFL has already been there in Green Bay. And it
just makes me laugh that that's one of the things
that it's not always about just the money and how
big an organization is from a spending dollars perspective. It's
(22:25):
how well run they are. And the Green Bay Packers
are very well run. And we know it's a public
company that people can have ownership in the company. Now
they're not running the organization. They obviously have a board.
They also have a president, general manager, all of that.
I just think it's a well run organization from top
(22:48):
to bottom.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
No, it is. I mean, it's there's a reason we've
talked about this before. I think there's typically a reason
why franchises, no matter the sport, are either very successful
or continuously struggling to succeed. And I really think it
starts at the top with ownership. And I mean, you
look at the Packers. They're good every single year, and
(23:09):
they've been that way for basically my entire lifetime. Yes,
you know, since the early nineties, they've been competitive to
compete for championships almost every year, and I think it
starts because it's just it's a well run organization. And
I will say this, especially being a Midwest guy, like
they love football. Yes, I mean fans love love.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Them some football.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I mean that is something that brings the community together.
And then when you start winning, even more so. And
so they have a rich history of athletic dominance. And
then when you talk about events Lombardi, you talk about
the goats, those type of individuals, and then you can
from a coaching perspective, and then you go down the
(23:56):
list in terms of players and everything that they've mist
And now what will Aaron Rodgers do that we know
he's already left the organization and creating a pathway almost
similar to Brett Farv who he followed up. And I
think there's something to be said about now the NFL Draft,
(24:16):
how much is going to be impacted with Aaron Rodgers
and his decision. Did the Pittsburgh Steelers did they not
make a move with shroor Sanders there at twenty one
based on maybe they've got some intail that Aaron Rodgers
is going to come to Pittsburgh. There's all types of
reports out there. Nobody really knows right at this moment.
(24:37):
But it is interesting just how Aaron Rodgers might be
holding the cards in terms of another domino that might
be falling for quarterbacks in this NFL draft.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
For sure. I mean, I think you bring up an
interesting point with Pittsburgh in particular, because even if Aaron
Rodgers goes there, I get it's a one or two
year band aid. And I don't mean to make Aaron
Rodgers seem like a band aid, because I do.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I think he is a band aid right now. Yeah,
I mean he based on his career, he is.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
From the perspective of obviously it's a it's a short
term thing. But I think if you have a good
team around him, I still want to see if he
can if he can get it done in an elite level.
I mean I'm not I'm not fully convinced he can't
in the right situation.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, from a.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Radio show perspective, it's good to have Aaron Rodgers try
to make a comeback, yeah, because it's something to talk about.
It's something that people will be polarized about, good or bad.
It's Aaron Rodgers, and he's going to somewhat move the
needle because to your point, There's going to be some
people that want to see that he can have a
(25:43):
third chapter in his career, so to speak, and there's
going to be others that don't want to see him succeed.
And I think that moves the needle and gets people
talking about it. So, just from a content perspective, yes,
I'm all about Aaron Rodgers coming back out and seeing
what he can do. And part of me agrees with you.
Though I love comeback stories. I love situations where people
(26:05):
are counted out. I just don't think Aaron Rodgers is
going to be able to do it based on his
age and the previous injury and how he's slowing down
to a certain degree. And at this point of your career,
how much are you committed to be able to have
(26:27):
a very successful career to lead a team in the playoffs.
It's one thing to go out there and be quarterback
for the NFL. I still think Aaron Rodgers can do
that just because of the god given abilities that he has.
But to be able to take a team and advance
them in the playoffs, I think it takes much more.
(26:48):
And I'm just not certain Aaron Rodgers, based on the
information that I've seen some of the reports. Again, have
no idea what's going on in his head as far
as his commitment level and doing the things that you
have to do in the off season to be ready
to take a team deep into the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I think you make an excellent point. You hit the
nail on the head, and it's that level of commitment.
And you know, I think it's easy to look at
a guy like Tom Brady and say, well, you know,
like he was just he kept his body in great shape.
He was really good. Now, I mean Tom Brady in
those Tampa years was doing the exact same things that
he was doing in year three and four and five
(27:27):
and six in New England in terms of preparation, and so,
you know, I mean, I think the commitment thing is
probably the biggest thing to me is he is he
committed to do what it takes to try and be
able to have that third chapter. And I'm not saying
that he doesn't. And look, it's not necessarily the easiest
(27:48):
thing to do when you're forty forty one years old
to be able to still go after it like you
were when you're twenty eight and twenty nine. But I
think that's the biggest thing is that is that commitment,
because you just can't. I don't care who you are.
I mean maybe maybe a couple guys, and as great
as he is, I think he's one of them can
come in right when they need to and just turn
(28:12):
it on it, even at age forty one, and be great.
And I just don't think I don't think he can
do that. I think I think the commitment thing is
the real the real issue.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I think there could be something to that. Let us
know your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Join the conversation eight six four two four zero five
four eight zero and let's head out to the Ingles
hot line right now the Richmond Weavers show.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Who's this?
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Hey, this is Roger and Anderson.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Roger.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Are you doing my friend?
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I'm doing good. I appreciate you getting me get me
on the show, Yes, sir. Look, I don't like to
see someone targeted unfairly. I'm not saying Suder was. I
think that it's pretty obvious though, when you look at
the coverage of of him draft and then you look
(29:01):
at the reaction to him not getting drafted, and he
is the constant focus now and he was last night too.
Once the picks started going and he wasn't taken. And
then you see this, uh I call it fake outrage
from these talking heads all over sports media. You're using
(29:26):
all kinds of crazy reasons why he's not drafted. The
bottom line is to me, when you look at the
reaction and the coverage of him, you can understand why
he hasn't has not been taken yet. No NFL team
that I can think of, maybe Dallas, because there's such
(29:46):
a circus anyway, and Jerry and Jerry and his and
his ridiculous way he runs his team. He might reach
up there tonight and take him. I don't know. The
bottom line is, so when you look at the reaction
and when you look at the the way that they
talk about him, Yes, it's because of his father and
(30:07):
when he is drafted, whatever team takes him. And maybe
it's unfair to Shador I think, and part it is
because he didn't you know, I don't know that he's
encouraged his father to be as Dion's always been outspoken,
He's always searched the limelight. That's why he calls himself Prime.
No one gave him that name. He put that name
(30:30):
on himself, and he tries to live up to it,
you know, every day. But no NFL team wants to
bring that kind of spotlight to their to their organization.
You're talking about Dion uh going to Is he going
to be at ot as whoever team drafts him, It'll
be like Broni Bronnie James times one hundred. I mean,
(30:51):
you're gonna have Deon showing up at OTAs, Deon showing
up in pre season, Deon showing up during the season
even as a as a coach of Colorado, he was
he'd probably make a trip to see his son play
or or walk the sideline. Who knows no team wants that,
no locker room wants that. I'm you know, is it unfair?
(31:12):
I don't know, Maybe not. I know I wouldn't want
that kind of element overshadowing and looming over my franchise.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, And there's something to be said about not only
on the field, type of ability and how players will
interact in a locker room. And I do believe that
the NFL, for the most part, they do a really
good job of policing the locker room, and organizations will
(31:44):
move on from players when they think there might be
a cancer there, especially if they don't have that elite
level type of talent Roger, and I'm not certain that
Shador Sanders has that type of talent to be in
the NFL. Can he be an NFL player, It remains
to be seen. He will definitely get drafted. I think
(32:06):
that's very well known, and I think it's easy to
that's not a reach by saying he's going to get drafted.
Somebody will take a chance on Shador Sanders. But there
is a lot more that comes with Shador Sanders than
just his ability to play quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Yeah, it's all that baggage, and it's not his baggage.
Now he does go out there, he but he doesn't
dress any different lead than any of the other young
men that get drafted. Some of them dress more outlandishly
and some of them dressed with more jewelry and in
ways that draw attention, and some of them don't. Most
of them, they all pretty much do that. It's not
(32:43):
that it's just his father is going to bring a
big spotlight to whatever team drafts him, and there's going
to be pressure on and this is unfair pressure on
Shador to not only make a run at a starting
job once he is the starter. The spotlight's going to
be on him to produce. That's not really fair. We've
(33:05):
seen so many first round quarterbacks not named Shador Sanders
with much less family, not to riot, he fail because
teams put them in a bad situation or a bad
offensive system and they don't succeed. It's just Deon brings
everything else, all that extra stuff that Dion brings is
going to be put on whatever team drafts should do.
(33:28):
And honestly, there's some comparisons with Aaron Rodgers too. Aaron Rodgers,
his talent is no longer, you know, makes up for
his mouth. He can't. He can't keep his mouth shut.
We don't care if you go sit in a cave
for a week. We don't care if you're smoking hiahuasca
(33:49):
or whatever that stuff is that he's puffing on. No
one cares about that, you know, Aaron. All we care
about is can you play? And can you do your chomp?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
That's right?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
And yeah, And there's something to be said about fans
will they will give you grace to a certain degree
as far as some of your idio secrecies or some
of your quirks.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
And Aaron's been able.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
To be quirky over the years because he's been an
MVP type of quarterback. And we know that he led
the Green Bay Packers to a super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
But he's only got one as great.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
As a long time ago brother.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
He's only got one.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
That was twenty ten, the twenty ten season, twenty eleven.
Now I think he's been I think he's a Hall
of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Oh, there's no question.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
There's been a lot of There's been a lot of quarterbacks.
He never made another Super Bowl. Let's be clear. He
made that one and he got his ring. He never
made it to another one and lost quite a few
NFC championship games and division round games. He's not a winner. Yeah,
I wouldn't put him in certainly he doesn't. I wouldn't
put him in a winner category. I compare him to
(34:58):
other quarterbacks who do win occasionally and put up great stats.
But Aaron, again, it's like Shador Sanders, but it's it's
Aaron doesn't have a father. He just brings it all
with himself. He loads up all his baggage, and I, honestly,
I don't know what team wants to have that kind
of spotlight because you're talking about NFL teams tend to
(35:18):
be very conservative. They want to do their business, they
want to get their team ready, they want to put
their best product on the field without any of this
other stuff that brings, you know, the locker room under
a spotlight. That's why a lot of teams don't do that.
What was the HBO show, the Hit Show or whatever
(35:40):
it was, Hard Knock, Hard Knock. Nobody wants Nobody wants that.
They only get the Scrubby franchises to do that. But
I'll tell you what I'm if I was a Panthers fan,
and I know that they would not because I don't
see them. I would never think they would take Shador.
But it's a tough fit. It's tough, and I feel
(36:02):
kind of bad for the kid because Dion honestly can't
help himself. He will go to whatever franchise. And I've
seen videos of him, uh last from last night when
his son wasn't drafted. They got the camera on his room,
the Sanders house or wherever it was. And then you've
got all these people. It's been all costed, all talk
(36:24):
all day. I'll click on you know a few different
shows and they're that's all they're talking about is a
kid that wasn't is a kid that wasn't drafted, Not
the great players and breaking down players that were drafted.
They're just talking about Shador because it's a what do
you want to call it? A lightning rod of of
(36:46):
topical conversation. And that's what these shows are all about,
whether it's you know, the first Take shows and all
those other shows that dominate these networks. Now they've gone
away from highlights and actual breaking down performances and they
just want to go for the gossip.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, there is something to be said about that for certain,
and Roger, we appreciate the phone call.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yes, we got to jump to this break right here.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
We do appreciate it as always, and anybody else that
wants to join the conversation you can right after this
break eight six' four two four zero five four eight
zero as we continue This friday edition Of The Richmond
Weaver show presented By Ingles.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Markets right after, this, oh.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
It's been a fun one here on The Richmond Weavers
show presented By Ingles, markets Mister Darren angel from The
Weiss Law firm and joining, me and, yes you've probably
realized Mister Trey Falco producer extraordinaire is not in this entire,
week And friday has gotten to. ME i apologize for
all of the technical. ISSUES i know we've had some
(37:47):
problems with pressing the right button getting out over the,
air but you know, what this is. Life this, happens
AND i apologize to all you investors out, there but
stick with us because we have figured things out and
we do appreciate you. Listening, however you are listening and
even through all of the technical, issues Mister, angel that.
(38:11):
Happens this is, life.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Man, absolutely we're we're just we're battling through, adversity you,
know that's what it's.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
How you, respond and we're here right.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Now we've.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Responded we are we're. Here we've made it. Back we
know we missed some time out on the, air and
we do apologize for, that but we will get better
come one. DAY i promise. YOU i do promise. You
even if Mister falco is not, BACK i definitely will
make sure to get better because that's what you have to.
Do you have to evaluate, yourself just like these gms
(38:44):
personnel PLAYER i, mean you, know professional personnel for player
development for THESE nfl teams and also the coaches and
the players. Themselves you have to valuate and try to get.
Better and we definitely drop the, ball and that is
a pun intil right, there.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
But we will get.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Better it Is april to twenty, fifth so we're going
to skip the, music but we are going to walk
back in a little bit of HISTORY otd here as
we wrap. Up and in nineteen sixty, five The Boston
celtics would beat The La lakers to win their seventh
CONSECUTIVE nba, Championship, yes a seventh. Consecutive nineteen seventy, four
(39:24):
THE nfl would adopt the fifteen minute sudden death overtime
to avoid, ties and also the league would move the
goalpost to the back of the end. Zones AND i
still don't understand why was it ever in the front.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Of the end.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Zone because it was an.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Obstacle how did people not Realize wait a, second that's
a bad decision right.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
There i've never understood. That WHEN i watched old, FILM
i constantly sit there thinking, like how did people not
die from running a route into? It or can tackle into?
It or, yes, wait.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
There was a lot Of that was a good idea
that ran into some problems that IS, o and that
is This friday edition of The Richmond Weavers, show presented
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