Itauma vs Whyte & Undercard Bouts PPV Preview and Picks! Gervonta Davis News! Ali Act Follow Up!

This Episode Begins with Preview and Predictions for Itauma vs Whyte, Ball vs. Goodman, Hrgovic vs Adeleye, Ford vs Nova on DAZN PPV! Topics For Discussion: New Ali Act Bill Follow Up For Last Episode! -RIP NENO! -Boots Ennis Next Fight Thoughts! -Gervonta Davis News! -Fundora vs Thurman Done Deal? -TKO Boxing Network Deat? -Turki PPV Contradictions WTF!  
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, what are boxing fans? This is the Rope Adobe
Radio Podcast, the real Rope Adobe Radio Podcast. For those
who know no what's going on. It's been a long time.
I shouldn't have left you with that. Okay, I'll stop.
That's Eric Bean Rock Kim by the way, for those

(00:23):
who know no. Anyway, it's been right around two weeks
since the last show. You know, near the end of
the last episode, I did mention how still was kind
of trying to figure out what I'm going to do
the next episode. I did go on a much needed
vacation shut it down for a little bit. But we

(00:45):
are back. Okay. Obviously last weekend, I wouldn't even say
it was mid right, August has been. It's been, it's
been mid it's been bad. Right. We do have a
pay per view from Saudi on the Zone coming up.
Uh It'sama against White along with the undercard. There's some

(01:10):
interesting matchups. The undercard, I'd say the closest fight got
you know, well, I didn't get postponed, but one of
the opponents or one of the boxers had to you know,
drop out, So that was probably the closest undercard about

(01:32):
what it was. I haven't looked at the odds and whiles,
but I know it is so there's some interesting matchups
on the undercard, but it kind of feels like, you know,
the A side is gonna win. We we could get
like some good entertainment stuff, you know, but it just

(01:52):
kind of feels like it's you know, we kind of
know who's gonna win in the fights. But you know,
we can say a whole lot going into a fight
weekend and then shit pops off, and who knows, maybe
shit will pop off in the main event. Dillion White
is getting up there in age, even for heavyweight. He's

(02:16):
getting up there. He's been battle tested, he's worn down,
he's not the same fighter he was, but he still
represents not just a name, but the best opponent Moses
have it has fought and it'll be really interesting as
we break this fight down, you know, to see if

(02:43):
you know, in fact, Million White can weather they're early
storm because it's on the radar, the satellite's picking up
the early storm. It kind of you know, survived that,
whether that and then get to the middle in late
rounds and that's where this fight could get very interesting.

(03:06):
So yeah, you know, I think it's a really solid
opponent for the young Moses and I'm excited to see
it now. You know, should it be on pay per view? No,
it shouldn't, right, it shouldn't even be in the UK.
And I get meaning on pay per view in the UK,

(03:31):
it should be in the UK, but you know Sadi's
paying for it whatever, But I don't even think it
should be pay per view in the UK. He's like,
if you're trying to build a star, which this dude
has potential, he's at heavyweight. The UK produces heavyweights. There

(03:52):
are plenty of fights. I wouldn't go rush them and
have them fight Usik, but I do think it's a
mistake to have it on paper. So we're gonna break
down the car, talk a little bit about the undercard fights,
and break especially break down the main event, and then
there'll be a little bit of follow up from the

(04:16):
last discussion that John and I had. John's not gonna
be able to make it tonight. I wasn't able to
do it Tuesday night. Just a heads up, so it
won't be a super long show. But I didn't get
plenty of messages just off our you know all the
Act two point zero, right, Well, we talked about the
Ali Act, and I think when we talk about a monopoly,

(04:41):
I mean Turkey's getting closer and closer to monopolizing the
sport obviously, right, just naturally from what he's doing. So
there's a there's a variety of ways to monopolize the sport, right.
But I think I've talked about, you know, like buying

(05:02):
out all the powers that be, buying out the sanctioning belts.
I've talked about that, you know, several times, right, for
longer segments over the years. Right, It's a topic that
even on like boxing Twitter spaces, I've had those conversations,
and I think people kind of some people, I should say,

(05:25):
kind of got it a little twisted from what I
was saying. You know, when there's a big merger, it's
not like one company everybody gets fired, like the whole
company's going, you know. So we'll get into that a
little bit, that the monopolizing situation would be like just

(05:46):
because you get bought out, doesn't mean every show that
Saudi Area would do would be just TKL, you know
what I mean. And there's no reason it couldn't run
like it currently does in some sense anyway where there
are promoters, and there are management and promoters and fighters

(06:06):
fighters obviously from all different platforms, right or whatever. Like
I said, management or promoters and stuff. So like matchmaking
and all that. It wouldn't be like everybody gets fired
and they just take it over and then they do
all the cards. You know, it's not like that. They

(06:29):
still could be working for the company. They just got
bought out, and it would be since they got bought out,
it would be less incentive to worry about your fighter
and your fighter alone and only build to certain you're
gonna build the fights, but just not over meritated. But

(06:52):
we're gonna talk a little bit about that, just lightly.
I don't want to get too deep into that. There's
some news since we last spoke about Boots Ennis and
his opponent. Not a lot of people happy with the opponent.
We'll talk about it and you know, discuss a little

(07:13):
bit anyway about you know, the public negotiations on the
side of Eddie Hearn for Boots in Virgil and whether
that fight will happen or whatever. We'll talk a little
to Vonte Davis and just a variety of things. UFC
did sign a blockbuster deal that for the most part,

(07:38):
for the most part doesn't involve pay per view and
involves not just Paramount, a streaming service. Right, I'm sure
it's CBS Sports Network, maybe even too, but CBS. We'll see,
you know, how that goes. Dana White did say, well,
pay per view is not dead. You know, there could
be little one offs, but overall, this deal doesn't really

(08:01):
have paper views in it, which you know for fans
combat sports fans and especially fans in the UFC MMA
in general, that's a big win. It's a big win.
We'll talk about it politically obviously, Dana Flex and his
muscles there well Trump as well as we know. So

(08:21):
you know, it's kind of a mixed bag of like
Dana saying that his t k O boxing stuff, the
deal for that has already done for next year. So
will that be ESPN, will it be Paramount, We'll see,

(08:42):
and you know, just a couple other like Fundur and Thurman.
I'll get my thoughts on that, just a variety of
stuff while we you know, we'll start in the ring,
break it down, you know, what's going on and whatnot.
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(10:38):
with two rips first in the ring. You know, since
we last spoke, not one but two fighters on that
Japanese card have passed, so rest in peace. I know
that they had like an emergency conference meeting or whatever,

(11:02):
and I did see something where if it's more like
domestic or what would be I think like domestic or
regional type fights, they're going to bring those from twelve
to ten or maybe that's what they're talking about. I
know I saw that kind of been passing. There is
you know, different talks about how they can help the

(11:25):
boxer quicker and I and I have noticed some people
talking about how they've noticed anyway that the Japanese folks
over there holding the events, they've noticed sometimes that it
takes a little while for you know, the boxer to
get care. So you know the thing about there's times

(11:49):
where I say that was a horrible stoppage, right, and
a lot of times it is sometimes you know, like
I am right, right, but they're you know, all of
us can kind to take a step back. Sometimes sometimes
we get caught up. I mean, fayboys get caught up
all the time, but sometimes we get a little emotional.
Sometimes there's money on the line. That's why I never

(12:10):
put enough money to like really really bug me down.
But just trying to keep in mind, especially the tough
guys on Twitter. And I'm not trying to act like
I'm a tough guy, right because I'm not. But when
you're calling fighters pussy for certain reasons where you're like, really, dude, Now,

(12:31):
if you see a fighter and they're filmed doing something
to a child or to a woman or what, you know,
that's different. You can call whenever you want at that point.
But like, sometimes people just get so tough talking when
it comes to boxing, and you know, so I think

(12:53):
it's just another reason to really, you know, get we know,
the saying, you know, you don't play box thing like
you play other sports. And sometimes we get caught up,
myself included, and you know, we we gotta remember how
just dead serious this this sport can be. So rest

(13:17):
in peace. Also from a boxing Twitter boxing fan perspective,
Nino Nino past recently Rest in peace too. To Nino.

(13:37):
You know, I've had it. I've been in a lot
of different you know, Twitter spaces with them. I've I
didn't have like a deep relationship with him, you know
what I mean. But he's a cool dude man, funny,
funny guy. Uh you know they're from time to time
talking boxing, talking hoops. Had a lot of different convers

(14:00):
stations with them and you know, exchange some messages and
and just a cool dude, man, stand up dude. So
that one, Uh, that was rough man. That that was
that's a that's a rough one man. You know. It
was good ship and he will be missed. And you know,

(14:24):
I already knew that he was good ship, but then
just seeing so many people on Twitter, uh, you know,
saying good things about him and just certain things that
would make us laugh or you know, he just he's
just a good dude. And like I said, I'm not
trying to say I was best friends with him, but

(14:45):
it's just a stand up guy man, you know, and
any funny like I said, funny ass dude, very passionate
like a lot of us. And uh, you know, I
remember two years years ago in the NBA Playoffs, second round,
Timberwolves Nuggets Game seven, timber Wolves getting their ass whoops

(15:09):
right and they start to make a comeback. And for
those you know who know they already know that they
came back and won. But Nino was so confident, like
even before they had even up the game that you
guys are gonna win. You know, he was already saying that.
It's like, oh shit, you know, and then after the game,
I was like, Nino was right, dude, They just I

(15:31):
don't know, man. I had a lot of great conversations
with them, you know, on Twitter spaces, and I don't know,
he'll definitely be based, man, So shouts out to Nino. Man,
that just sucks, man. It's it's it's that's a tough one. Man. Anyway.
You know, I'm not gonna get into a bunch of recap.

(15:55):
That's sand the ball, you know, firefight, entertaining, scrap came
off the ground, not you know, just just that was
a fun ass fight right there. There were some fun
fights recently since the last time we spoke. But like
I said, I'm not gonna do too much recap, but

(16:21):
just kind of looking at this card coming up. You know,
Nick Ball, Sam Goodman. Ball can be hit a lot,
but you know, I do see him ultimately winning that fight.
I do like the Hergevic David Adelai fight. H Adelaide

(16:49):
does have He's got good power. He does have one
loss to Fabio a couple of years back, probably right
around two years, a little short two years, I think
it was, and you know, it's not like it was
neck and neck and then he got knocked out. But
at least he has experience on a pretty high level. Obviously,

(17:12):
we know, you know Hergovic got knocked out too, right.
I do remember saying looking like he was gonna stop him,
but you know, saying not necessarily and always the best shape.
You know, I kind of fell apart on him. But
I think it's an interesting matchup and it definitely means

(17:36):
a fair amount to the winner, that's for sure. Raymond
Ford and Abraham Nova stylistically, that's gonna be a good fight.
You know, Nova is the replacement. So like, like I said,
the inner card, it's pretty good. I wouldn't like it's

(17:59):
not great. But you know, Turkey in some of these
cards have set the bar so high that you look
at this one and you say, I mean it's good.
It's not bad obviously for its former opponent. You know,
he was a much closer, you know fight. Whereas I
think it's like plus over plus five hundred for a while.

(18:22):
I haven't looked at it for Novo, but you know
that's been a it's pretty wide margin. But Nova's a
solid fighter. I don't want to take any from him,
you know, Goodman. Let me look at it right now.
I'm going to a proboxingodds dot com plus three fifty
plus three three thirty plus three three three plus three forty.

(18:46):
I do see a plus four hundred at Betway. So
if you're if you like Goodman, I would either go
to FanDuel or I would go to bet Way if
you can plus three seventy Goodman. Well, he's a good
he's a good fighter, right, He is a good fighter,
and so I do think that he can. You know,

(19:08):
Nick Ball is not unbeatable. His style it's fun to watch,
uh you know, such a short do what is he
like five two five three something like that. But he
had that tight fight with ray Vargas. But well in
the Raymond Ford, you know, many people thought Ford snuck
it out, which I'd be okay with that. Uh if

(19:32):
that's if that's what you think, I think that too.
But good minute is he is a good fighter, you know,
and he doesn't have a whole lot of power, right,
so I think that is an issue. And you know,
I mean the Aleam fight, you know that really like

(19:55):
he beat a T J Henny or do Henny and
then a lean right behind it. And I think it
was like maybe the fight after that with Flores, Miguel Flores.
You know. So guys that we know, you know he
is a good fighter. Like I think he's gonna put

(20:16):
up a good fight in Nick Ball's style. Like I said,
is has come forward and he's going to take some
punishment in there. That's just what's gonna happen. So like
I said, I think Goodman will put up a good fight.
I don't think he's gonna get stopped. I don't think
Ball is going to stop him. I just think overall

(20:38):
between the you know, the shots land into the body
and the head, just the overall work once he gets inside.
He's just effective at what he does. And I think
it takes a certain stylistic matchup to beat him. And

(21:00):
you know, we'll see if Goodman has that stylistic matchup.
Can he use some of that height to his advantage?
Can he keep you know, the bulldog ball off of them.
And it's more like just he wears you down and
he just keeps coming and coming, and so I think, yeah,
I think that as far as the undercard fights, that
probably will be the most entertaining while being really like

(21:25):
fairly competitive. I could see Ford and Nova being like
just a fun fight. But I also see Ford, you know,
pretty much stepping on the gas, separating himself, you know
what I mean. Nova, you know, definitely solid. Like I said,

(21:50):
took a couple losses. I think he had a draw
in there too, but I know he took back to
back losses against a shaky Foster and it was a
close fight tes as well. And you know, a while
while back, this is like, actually, let me check it
probably was like let's see twenty twenty two, he did

(22:14):
lose to rob Si Ramerez. Follow it right back up
with you know, beating a good fighter and Adam Lopez.
I just think Ford's a better fighter, you know. But
but Nova, he's gonna put up a fight. So I
think I do think that we're gonna get entertainment. Like

(22:35):
I said, that's kind of the key. And you know,
let's be honest, if you're paying for a pay per view,
if you can get two out of those three fights
I just mentioned, be entertaining, then all of a sudden
he's the main event. You're like, all right, that was
pretty good night of fights, you know. But yeah, I
got her Hergevic winning too. I think he'll win by decision,

(22:57):
the jab, the right hand. I just it's not that
David Aileen isn't a good fighter, Like I said, it
seems like he's got some pop and all that right
and some power and you know, a fight ago, or
actually I think it was two fights ago he did
after that worldly loss, he did bounce back and beat

(23:18):
a fighter that some people were high on as a prospect.
I just think that Harkovic is just the straighter, sharper puncher.
You'll stick to his jab. Like I said, It's not
like he can't be hurt, right because we've seen it.
But and you know he's coming off a good performance too.

(23:45):
Herkovic is coming off a good performance earlier this year
after losing. You know, even though he hit Daniel Dubois.
We've talked about it a couple of times in the show.
He hit Daniel Dabla with so many damn right hands. Sorry,
I had to get a little low liquid break. So yeah,

(24:10):
like I said, I do think that you'll have entertainment.
But I don't. I mean, who has the best chance
of the upset well on the under card, I mean Goodman,
I'd say, I'd say Goodman is the guy who has
the best chance of the upset on the undercard in

(24:34):
the odds show that as well in the main event,
Million White, you know, Moses a Tommy Atomy Atama. You know,
if you look at the odds, it's it's wide for
good reason, Million White, I think it's lows this plus

(24:56):
five fifty. Vandel has him plus seven hundred. So I'll
say it again, if in fact you do think that
Moses is gonna get upset or really get tested here,
then you should go ahead and make your way to Fandle. Okay,
I'm not telling anybody to gamble. Well, I guess I am.

(25:19):
You know, do you? But yeah, I mean I don't know.
I just I like the fight matchup. Like I said,
I don't like it being on pay per view this
early in his career. For quite a while now, the
UK something we've discussed here a lot on the show.

(25:43):
The UK just keeps producing waldy heavyweights, whether they turn
out to be just solid B sides, whether it's like
Daniel du Bois, who looked like he kind of hit
his head on the ceiling, looked like he may not
have the dog in him right, And then all of
a sudden he showed plenty of dog and gave us

(26:03):
entertainment and even had some people thinking that he was
gonna beat music in that rematch. Now he had a
pre party instead of a post party. I don't think that, really,
in the end made that big of a difference. I
think he just got beat by a much better fighter.
Wells music. But you know, Moses Etama Etoma southpaw Right,

(26:37):
which is pretty tricky at heavyweight. You know, the hand
speed is there, the hand speed is there, and it's
not just throwing a rapid fire. It's more like very
accurate crisp like his timing and his ability to counter

(27:00):
within that exchange, not just the counters we think of
as just a guy on the outside. He ducks a shot,
he counters back. Hey, that's that's good too, right, that's great.
But this dude will be like right there in front
of his guy and he measures stuff really well. You

(27:21):
can tell, so that that ability to counter with the
timing power in both hands to it, it appears, you know,
he's got a really good jab. It can be a
damaging jab. It can set up the next shot behind
it the left hand, those short hooks that he throws
the upper cut as well, and he doesn't throw that

(27:42):
uppercut from halfway across the ring. So I mean, as
a heavyweight prospect man, he looks like he's got everything
you need. And obviously we gotta find out the stanama.
We got to find out the chin, We got to

(28:02):
find out the heart and all that stuff. Wouldn't that
will we find it here? I don't know White. You know,
I've heard some people talk about, you know, that first
fight with Aj way back at the day right where
you heard him and he was like, all right, that
really helped Aj in many ways. Now you could also say, well,

(28:25):
ultimately we found something in that fight, but he also
got hurt and then fought back really well. And he
did that in other fights too, like that Klitchko fight.
And you know, White is good at what he does,

(28:46):
and he's been a contender level and fighting on the
high level. As far as competing on that high level,
you know, against the good fighters. Man, you know, he's
he's a guy that never quite reached the top. Of course,

(29:08):
but he's a really good fighter man, and if he
can weather that early storm, like I mentioned, if he
can get through the first handfull of rounds, and then
as it goes on, as it gets later, we seem
doing white at times, you know, looked like he was

(29:28):
in trouble, right, looking like, oh dude, this is not
going to end well, you know, and then he just
you know, he just goes off. So I mean, clearly
the age factor, you know, it's not ideal. Right, every time,

(29:50):
every time he's been beat, he has been knocked out. Right,
Anthony Joshua got him after having really good moments, you know,
the facking got him, and then of course Feary got him,
and you know, he he had a really like I

(30:13):
want to say it was either actually I don't think
it was a split. I think it was a majority.
I should check with h. Jermaine Franklin went ten rounds
with him, took on a Christian Hamo, you know, the
last two fights whatever really since that fight, you know,
he did fight the same year twenty twenty two, after

(30:36):
he got knocked out by Fury, but then you know,
there was a long break. He thought he managed to
fight twice this will be his you know, his his
first fight in a long time. But you know, how
much does he have left? Like if he does come

(30:57):
in in pretty good shape, that's the thing, Like at
this level or at this time of his career, with
the money he's probably gonna make on this one. Is it?
Is it like one foot I almost said the wrong thing,
one foot like in retirement and hey man, I can

(31:19):
make this money? Or is he? You know, I'm sure
he's gonna try to win the fight, right because if
he does beat Moses, it just rejuvenates his career, like majorly.
So I think there is something to do with that mindset.
Moses is a big dude though, right, got a long reach,

(31:44):
and you know, I do want to see him, you know,
go rounds. I want to see him against an experienced fighter,
you know, go go four rounds man, because he I mean,
that's the one thing he has one fight that one

(32:04):
or no, was it one or two? I think it's two. Yeah,
I think it's two fights that went the sixth round distance.
But once he hit the eight rounder, I mean I'm
looking at it right now. After the sixth rounder in
twenty twenty three, in the summer first round, knockout, first round, knockout,
first round, knockout, first round, knockout, second second, first second,

(32:25):
and he did have walk in there, you had McKean.
You know, I like the way he's taken out guys.
But you know that's what I'm saying about going deeper
in the fight. And it is a ten rounder, it's
not a twelve, you know, not a twelve, so that

(32:46):
that helps. But yeah, I just would love to see pass,
say the fourth or fifth round, because Dillian White has
this this lone nine to him where he can recover
and then start winning rounds again. Now, ultimately, I think

(33:10):
the handspeed, the fresher fighter, the more accurate puncher, all
that stuff that I mentioned, I wouldn't doubt if he
knocks him out. Am I one call him for a knockout?
I don't know. I mean I would say, from let's say,
round the rounds three to five, I would probably say

(33:33):
that might be the best chance of the knockout. Now,
I gotta see him on the scale, Dillion White, to
see exactly how serious he's taking this fight, right. I mean,
you know I'm not just gonna be like, oh no,
that's good. You know that that plays into my thought

(33:54):
process obviously, but something tells me if Dylan White's in shape,
like fighting trying to win shape, and I think it
could go the distance. I think it's got a chance
to go to the distance. But yeah, I think it's

(34:15):
a good fight at this stage. Obviously, you know Etamo
doesn't have a lot of fights, right, and this is,
like I said, by far his best opponent. So I'm
gonna say knockout. What's this thirteen fight or something like that.
I'm gonna say knockout, but I'm gonna kind of leave
the door open for like, well maybe you know, maybe

(34:39):
if it gets past the fifth round. Then if it
gets past the fifth round, I feel pretty good that
it'll that it'll go ten. I think that helps, that
it's only ten rounds. I know you can make you know,
i'd say Delian White, it helps potentially, But you could
also say, you know, Moses, because let's say he's showing
signs in the eighth and ain't the getting tired. Well,

(35:01):
you know that would be to have to go those
couple more rounds that would be a big deal. So overall,
I have Moses winning. I'm pretty sure by knockout, but
just as a guy who wants to like as a fan,
I would love this, Like if he knocks him out

(35:24):
in three rounds, it's a statement, and I think that's
beneficial too. But I would like some good quality rounds
for him. And you know the thing is if he
knocks him out early, they may step them up too much.

(35:44):
You never know. You know a lot of people already
call him for the Usik fight, and it's like, slow down, dude.
And some of these people call him for the Usik
fight are the ones that say Usik's like the second
best heavyweight of all time. It's like, dog, do you
understand what you're saying? Then if you think he in
the top five heavyweight of all time, what in the
fuck are you putting my guy Moses into this for?

(36:08):
It's not ducking. Everybody gets moved at a different, you
know pace. Anyway, I think it's a really good card,
but like I said, for it to be is it
fifty dollars here? I think it is? Or is it sixty?
I think it's sixty here. I can't remember. But to

(36:31):
have it on pay per view, it just doesn't make
any fucking sense, man, It really doesn't. And we'll talk
a little bit how Turkey's kind of going back and
forth with this paper stuff, you know. But the kicker
for the zone, you just you see these things. They
got an offer for new customers if you basically do

(36:57):
the annual plan, so you pay for a year zone,
you don't have to pay for the pay per view.
And hey, you know, I understand trying to get new customers, right,
I get it, but like, how about the fucking people
that have been subscribed to you for boxing since like

(37:19):
late twenty eighteen? Was it September, September October? I can't remember,
But like, what about why don't like, why don't you
give us a break? I don't I don't understand it.
I don't understand why you wouldn't be giving us a break. Dude,
you know that. It just it throws me off. It

(37:39):
throws me off a little bit. I don't know. But yeah,
that was sick stuff. I just pretty much, no matter
what happens this week, I'm not gonna sit there and
be like, yeah, bro, we' six next man, you know,
put it's a hit list. Bro, he's got a hit list,

(38:01):
you know? And I did hear? Buddy McGirt has said
it in a couple of interviews that you know, basically,
let's get you know, let's get get past the first
couple of rounds and then we'll drown them. I saw
a post the other day, one hundred and sixty seven

(38:23):
more rounds h for billion or for yeah, for million White.
That's a lot more rounds, man, it really is. So
he's gonna bring a lot of that experience into the ring. Man.
But even even in this this tweet, it's like August sixteenth,

(38:46):
live on his own? Oh is it it's live on
his zone? Or is it? Is it more than live
on his own? Because to me, it's not on it's
on his own only you know, but that just they
they they're pr is just it's I gotta admit it's garbage, dude.
And here's another thing. So we'll talk a little bit

(39:08):
about the u UFC. But Shapiro was quoted saying the
pay per view model is a thing of the past.
What's on pay per view anymore? Boxing movies on direct TV,
it's outdated, blah blah blah. So it's paramount to us

(39:30):
to you know, switch it up, and you know, whether
that gets the amount of subscribers to paramount obviously if
they can, if some of the events or most of
the events or whatever get broadcasted on CBS, that's major.
That is major. But Dana already said that it doesn't

(39:57):
mean payviews all the way. Did We're just gonna cut
back on them way, you know, like there's a chance.
But overall my point is then you had Turkey quote
tweeting this thing, right, my brother Mark Schapiro. Great to see.
We have the same we share the same vision for
fights and how our fans consumed them. As I said

(40:17):
one month ago with his own pay per view is
a broken model and must we must offer the boxing events,
boxing events to fight fans at no additional cost. Now
you know, I gotta admit like as a as a
part time media member and a longtime boxing fan. What
the fuck? Dude? First of all, you're the one who

(40:40):
saturated the pay per view market since you've been here. Okay,
what what was it? So? Did he come in December?
Was it that right around that Christmas stuff? Was it
December twenty twenty three that he came? Pop? Pause? And

(41:01):
it's been not only one that Ramier's card, only one
was no pay per view and you had you know,
three in a week, right, you had two in a
week's time. You've done that now, you know, and you
throw in that other pay per view from PBC. That was,

(41:22):
like we talked before, that was the second time in
a half a year that we had three pay per views,
you know, in a matter of a week. So and
five out of the six of them was the Zone. Now,
like I said, some of the fights he's made, man,
they've been phenomenal. Some of the full cards have been phenomenal.

(41:43):
But if you have this phenomenal product, you want people
to see the fucking product, right, and so pay per
views are broken model. But it's on pay per view
this weekend. And then the you know, with no additional cost.

(42:05):
What did you fucking said? And then disowned the next day,
said that there's gonna be an additional we're messing around
with a price, and you know, so so if you
pay an extra second fee, a second payment, you'll get
all the pay per views, which tells you at this
time anyway they plan on doing the pay per views still.

(42:29):
So it's like and then remember he had the tear system,
Turkey was talking about a plus BC. You'd never fucking
you know, label your shit a see. But anyway that
that shit does hurt me because it's like, come on, dog,
like what are we doing here? Man? Yeah, man, the

(42:51):
model it's it's horrible, It's horrible. But buy the pay
view this weekend, you know, like like I don't know,
it just it makes no sense to me. But anyway,
just doing a little follow up because I got a
variety of messages over these last two weeks about the
Aliac stuff and in my thoughts on Monopoly and and

(43:15):
you know, all this stuff Monopoly not on the board game, okay,
but monopolizing the sport and whether it's been on the
podcast talking segments or we talked about it. You know,
I've talked about it plenty of times on you know,
different spaces on Twitter, like the Idea like I met,

(43:36):
I don't know, like the UBO. As I mentioned, this
bill is is a t KO bill, right, obviously it's
a and if you're gonna get this ship pass, it
already has bipartisan support for the actual bill. And a
lot of the positive stuff is window dressing. A lot

(44:02):
of it is if you look at you know, if
you look at like a difference between you know, twenty
to twenty five thousand dollars. We talked about, you know,
the mandate per round when many states are already paying
that end more so, it's not like that it's all negative.
Right to make a federal law, that's cool, But if

(44:24):
you're gonna, if you're gonna actually change boxing, you could
monopolize it and change it at the same time. And
so like to be a UBO, you have to have
your own training facility. Well, and they're expanding that training
facility by the way, and you know, they can do
whatever the fuck they want. That's great, but you know,

(44:46):
like it's just a huge head start, and it will
affect smaller promoters. It just will. We saw what happened
in New York. It just will so. And still like
the USC pays like right around twenty I've heard anywhere
from you know, sixteen to eighteen to twenty percent of

(45:09):
the revenue. And now this new revenue Dana White talks about,
you know, the pay is going to go up a
percentage wise, the pay for fighters is going up. Well, yeah,
you just signed a monster deal. We'll CBS make enough
money on that deal. We'll find out. But the point
is so, of course the finances are going to go up,

(45:32):
but percentage wise it may it may go down of
the revenue for the fighters. And my thing with Dana
is he always talks about how you know, he's basically
a sports franchise, right, and he talks all this shit. Okay, cool,
then why don't you pay like these other leagues pay,

(45:55):
like the NFL, like the NBA at least get it
to sixty five or some shit. But my thing is,
I was just being honest on the ALI Act. It
is very beneficial, it has been. But how many cases
have has been brought under the ALI Act? That's just

(46:18):
there's certain facts, you know, like like I said, power negotiation,
power to litigate. There's a lot of positive things with
the ALI Act, and from my viewpoint that that's intact.
But to do just the TKO thing, you know, I
think a lot of it is window dressing. My whole

(46:39):
point of the monopolizing everything, like pay off all the
belts and just make it the WBC or whatever the
fuck right, just pay them off. Just pay them off.
And if you don't want to do that, then you're
gonna have to. Like how my thing is, isn't it
gonna just be another belt? Then? I mean it kind

(47:03):
of will be another belt if they just have the Okay,
they get permission to get another belt. Okay, cool, But
like when they say we're gonna have rankings and then
we're gonna have the top five, you know, we're gonna
have our rankings and they're gonna all fight each other,
so we'll know who's the best, you mean, know who
the best out of your rankings. Well, who's making the rankings.

(47:24):
And if it's the ring, then you'd have to have
all the fighters or at least be willing to work
with all the fighters and promoters. And you've shown in
the UFC you're not willing to cross promote unless it's
Floyd Mayweather or something like that, you know, but overall
they're not. So my thing is if you bought up

(47:46):
all the main boxing outfits PBC included management, right, then
then the contracts you'd have, you know, you have control
of the fighter right in that sense, But it doesn't
mean every like it does. I don't mean it by

(48:09):
Al couldn't still do his thing. These people can't do
their thing. The matchmakers are top rank developing prospects, couldn't
do their thing, you know, I don't. But then maybe
top rank would risk more of their fighters against each
other if they've already been paid off, And it's not
so much it's just a competition to who can make
the best fights, not so much because profit at their

(48:32):
point isn't as much of an incentive if they've already
been paid off for the company. So I'm not saying
every single individual at all these companies would be would
stay hired or and maybe they'd take the money and dip,
you know, but so they can still operate. All these

(48:54):
people that work out all these companies could still operate,
you know, their company. They could still run their company.
When I say monopoly, when I monopoly, when I say that,
like when I say merger, it's like a big ass merger.
Like mergers, they don't fire every single person. So that's
all I'm saying. It's the only way you're going to

(49:14):
get everybody on board, or you just do what you're
doing what Turkey's is already doing with Sadi money, where
you're you're you're getting four different five different you know representatives,
fighters that you know are under that promotional bat management whatever,
and you're putting them all on a card, and so

(49:35):
that that has a lot of positivities obviously, right, and
so you can just do it that way and have
you know, data promote a lot of the shelves and
we'll see, you know. Speaking of the UFC Paramount CBS
deal from the sound A, Dana told the Sports Journal

(50:02):
that Sports Business Journal that he that the boxing deal
is already done, like I mentioned, though I've heard some
other people say it's not done yet, but he said
it was done for twenty sixteen. And we'll see. Is
it on ESPN or like I mentioned, ESPN or whatever,
maybe Paramount. I don't know, but like how many cards
per year is he going to do? You know? And

(50:25):
if it's one a month, then maybe next year it
would just turn into these type of Saudi cards and
ring cards would just be ran by Dana, you know.
And so if they keep doing that, and then you know,

(50:46):
like the powers that he have to compete against that
that could be a natural positive thing that happens. But
if he if Dana, and it sounds like he said
it anyway, that he has a done deal for a
TV or a platform, I shouldn't say TV, but that's

(51:09):
a positive. And when I've talked about you know, people
have said, oh, time bys that didn't work for PBC. Dude,
First of all, you have seated a time by. The
Second of all, the time bys did work, because what
you meant to say is the Fox deal ultimately didn't work.
Now there's reasons why it didn't work, Okay, more than one,

(51:33):
but the time buys did deliver a deal on Network
and the Fox and FS one, so to say that
it didn't work, that's just not true. And my whole
point is it's like, you know, like when Hayman got
the investment money, that shit was all over the place,

(51:58):
and some would argue too many any different outlets, right, sure,
get a little confused, but like he had it on.
He had ratings that we hadn't seen in a long
long time. Whereas, okay, go ahead and say these fights
were some of these fights have been better at cards.
Let's say full cards have been better. Cool, But who

(52:19):
the fuck's so it ain't growing shit, It's not growing
this sport. So you know, I just think that doing
a time by or And I also mentioned people got
stuck up on that they got hung up on the
time by word words. I suppose those are two. But
I also said you could take a small licensing fee

(52:41):
if you want revenue. Obviously he wants some revenue coming
in because the pay view does create some revenue. The
gate does create some revenue. Clearly not you're not gonna
break even, right, So you could if you had all
these fucking fights and said, hey man, we'll just take
a little licensing fee, you could get a deal. You

(53:02):
can get a deal. You're not gonna get a deal
with UFC just did and nowhere are close to it,
but you could, good it, get a deal if you
if you aim kind of low, because you're you're aiming
low with this anyway, like you're aiming high for the fights,
but low for who the exposure, who's seeing it? So
why not not? Okay? Maybe you don't have as much

(53:24):
revenue coming in and I say revenue, not profit revenue. Okay, cool,
but you know in the long run it'll probably help you.
And so maybe what is it ten million dollars a year?
Is it? It is a year? Right, it's not forever
event man, Maybe I'm mixing that up. I think it's
just ten million dollar fee per year that Turkey's gonna

(53:47):
give to the USC. S of the UFC really doesn't
have a risk inness, so I just want to see
how it plays out. But yeah, there's some things that
I think are just window dressing when it comes to
the KO bill, and that's what it is, TKO bill.
It gives them a head start. But I want to
know the rankings, you know, I want to know how

(54:09):
you're going to organize this ship. And I said first
quite some time, and I understand, like you can still
have competition, but it's monopolized. You could still you know,
you can still have it within the you could still
have their rivalries and shit like that. And we saw
the you know, the Matchroom and Queensberry and you know,

(54:32):
we could still have that type of shit. Because if
they plan on doing so many cards t KO, which
I don't know their number, that could get that could
get tough too, because if you have so many, you know,
cards for UFC and then boxing and you know, I

(54:52):
don't know, man, but whatever it is, it can't be
on pay per view only because that's all he's done
besides one event. Then it can't be on just the
zone pay per view. It just it doesn't line up anyway.
I'm gonna move on. I'm getting kind of sick of that,
So do do oh boots ed us right Lima? You know,

(55:22):
Gray Johnson mentioned Lima's combined record of his last four
fights all wins, sixty six and one. But yeah, sure
he's a bad fighter. He said, we'll accept apologies when
he's standing after twelve. Like I said, you know, Karen
would twice. And he does have a good point there,

(55:46):
and I think it is important to keep that in perspective.
I do, I really do. Now, is there better opponents?
Yet's still not a huge step up at fifty four?
Yes there are. And when you look at who they

(56:09):
offered to, that kind of puts in perspective too. You know,
they ended up with this dude, I do box trick.
Gray has a good point, but in the same breath,
like they offered Abel Rams and I know he just

(56:30):
had a close fight with Barrios, But come on, dude,
we're not going to be like, but it was a
close fight with the champion. Okay, dude, but it's Barrios, dude,
you know what I mean. So it's like, so yeah,
that part of it is like, you know, so they
were offering other guys. They offered Rashidi Ellis you know,

(56:55):
so so if Rashidi got the call, people would be happier,
I would, I think Ayzeus Ramos, you know, people would
be happier. But I'm kind of right in between where
Gray is and where a lot of people are. Most people,

(57:16):
sometimes these type of opponents do overachieve, and before you
know it, if he does go twelve rounds then boots
his garbage, you know what I mean, people will be
saying that too. So it's a cherry pick. And then
the old cherry pick gone wrong. That shit makes me
laugh so much, like especially they always use that with

(57:37):
Wilder than Fury. Cherry pick gone wrong. Yeah, man, a
cherry pick gone wrong. But he signed a two fight
deal to fight him twice and went to court to
push it to get the third fight after getting his
ass whooped in the second one. But yeah, it's a
cherry pick, right, Like, get the fuck out of here

(57:58):
with that. But anyway, so yeah, I mean they were
so adamant about like, we can't make forty seven anymore, right,
and hey, when he did step up the Stanionius, he
fucked him up. Dude, he played like boots. That's his
best fight. He looked great in that fight. Now you
could say stylistically he's mostly gonna look that way. We'll

(58:21):
see if that type of style at the larger weight,
you know, affects him or not. We'll see. But clearly
he feels like he's got to get his feet wet.
And this isn't by the way, this boots thing. It's
not the first guy to go up and get your
feet wet, as long as the next fight is legit.
Because he had two type fights, Karen was competitive in

(58:45):
the second one because of well, I mean more competitive,
like he wanted to try to win, not just like
the first fight where he was very you know, very
not aggressive and non aggressive at all. So but the
part I so, if it's Virgil or Artie's next, cool,

(59:05):
But when you have Eddie Hearn talking about we've agreed
to our side, you know, and I just hope that
Virtual steps up, you know, and then you see, you know,
Artist Senior can be all over the place. He's not
this super trusted source like like he said, he said, uh,

(59:32):
I didn't know Eddie Hearn was Virtual's manager and told
him when he fights, I haven't heard anything, you know, basically,
we haven't been offered YadA YadA, YadA. Right, And because
they say that it's signed for January February matchum Golden

(59:53):
Boy card and it's signed on his side, but not
on the virtual side. And so when you public already
with this public negotiation, shit, it's just why don't you
say that, Why don't you have them turned down the
fight and be like, hey man, we signed our side,

(01:00:13):
but do it after, like, don't do the public because
when you do public negotiations, a lot of times it
just makes you and your fighter look bad. Even though
it feels like sometimes I'm not saying this is the case,
but a lot of times you're trying to get ahead
of something, and so you're gonna play the media and

(01:00:38):
get ahead of something. So I'm just not a big
fan of that. Dude, when it's all said and done
and that fight didn't get signed, if that's the case,
then come out and say, hey, dude, we did our
apart man, we signed off for whatever reason, they didn't
do it yet yet, talk to shit then, but don't
do it while it's they haven't. I hope they off, okay,

(01:01:02):
but dude, it's it's just I don't know, but hopefully
that is the next fight, because you know, you definitely
can't keep serving this opponent. You know, there there's talk
about him wanting two tune ups at fifty four. Well,
if you cannot make forty seven anymore, then fifty four

(01:01:25):
should go good for you then, So why would you
need two fights? It's that that part's a little funky.
I do have to admit that's that's a little funky. Now,
Babraham and ericson IBF Junior Middleweight title in a handful
of days. There's a purse bit August nineteenth. Let's see

(01:01:47):
what happens there. Maybe we'll hear about, you know, a
done deal. I don't know. Okay, So since we've been
away for that two week break, they've all got back surgery,
and Better Beef is now on the undercard of Benavidez.

(01:02:12):
And that's a slap in face because it's like, dude,
you mean to tell me they could have just matched
up Better Beef, you know. So hopefully he's on the
card because of that, that that that's where they're going
to go. But I don't know, you know, if it clearly,

(01:02:35):
he'd probably want to get the trilogy first before Benaedidez.
So I don't know, but yeah, basically put out a
quote evolved in following my doctor's advice, I had to
undergo surgery for an older back injury, which I've been
dealing with for over ten years. But he kept getting

(01:02:56):
worse with each training cap six D eight we recovery period.
So we'll see, we'll see where that goes. I don't know, man,
It's like you were negotiating a fight. Remember they were
talking about what we wanted in Russia. Okay, but what

(01:03:17):
it's just like okay, but then again, if you're about
to get backstrat like, it's just it's just weird. It's
just fucking weird. It's just weird. That's just the bottom line, dude.
And you know the turby of our next fight was
supposed to take place in Russia. You know what we're

(01:03:37):
talking what we're what we're talking about now the third
fight with Dmitri Bivol. We offered great conditions, which by
the way, that turnaround fight was delivered for Beval not
for better be it than the third fight. So he
wants to keep fighting, right and so but I honestly,

(01:04:00):
if the ball wants to fight, then they'll probably just
fight him now if there's an in between fight, because
then they Eddie talks about, oh we might go fight
a you know, up a cruiserweight, Okay, what you know.
Like so, I don't know, but it sucks. It sucks
for Benavidez. And you know, if if Benevitez like was

(01:04:24):
not with Al Hayman, he would be getting that glove contreatment.
Nobody wants to fight you. Everybody scared you're better than Hagler,
you know, all that shit, and it's just and I'm
not saying he's better than that, but clearly he's getting

(01:04:45):
fucked right now, you know. And and it happens. It
happens to boxers. It is what it is. At least
he said, hey, Turkey, I'll take the one off. I'll
come I'll come there and i'll do my thing. I'll
fight for you. But I'm not going to sign a
multi fight deal just to not get these fucking fights,
you know. So I think it's a smart move not

(01:05:09):
to long term locket unless you know the fights already signed,
you're gonna get that fight. I've been one of the many,
you know, not many US podcasts have said it's worth
it for him to go over there and get it
if in fact the fight signed you know, and then
there's a three year or three fight deal or something. Well,

(01:05:30):
it'd be different if he's if the first fight is that,
you know, not just randomly sign a deal where you're
not going to get the fight. But yeah, it's just
it's just fucked up. It's fucked up Manny Pacyao. According
to brunch Boxing, I just saw this here, no not
a long not a long time ago and announced that

(01:05:51):
he's gonna be back in the ring in December. They
mentioned in the post here brunch Boxing that jermon To Davis,
Roley Romero, Mario Borrows and even Mayweather are on the table,
but you know, I doubt that part and he is now.
The WBC made him the number one contender. You bank

(01:06:14):
Junior and Ben rematch November fifteenth, unfinished business. That's an
original one. But either way, yeah, why not? Why not?
I like that it's in the UK, that's where it belongs,
So I think that's pretty cool exposing boxing myths. We're

(01:06:35):
gonna mix in boxing Twitter in fight News, Boots versus
Virgil next February with no title on the line would
be disappointing. One of them needs to pick up a
belt before the fight. Not that it takes away anything
from the fight, but it just seems wrong. Well, which
one the fuck is it? Like? Will that take any

(01:06:57):
fight away from me? Will that take any hype away
from me? No? It will not. It definitely will not.
So whatever. I also saw this Prince not seen. There's
a movie about him coming out in the first quarter

(01:07:17):
twenty twenty six. Kind of interested in Matt that's pretty cool,
you know. Tyson Fury has been talking about that. He's
you know, he's coming back, gonna come back, gonna come back.
Now he's like, you know, never coming back. It's for
real this time. It's young man's game. Said he's done

(01:07:39):
no trilogy fight with Usik. I wish that. I hope
that's it. Hope he just shuts it down. I think
that'd be great. You know, that would be great. That's
what I'm hoping. But we'll see. Someone asked me, did

(01:08:01):
I see so this is Lord? This is Lord? Fly
shouts out to the Lord. This is a screenshot of him.
I could tell fight of your candidate. Oh yeah, on
the esp At de Portes Canda Zalez. Yeah, it wasn't
a long fight, but that shit was a banger. That

(01:08:24):
shit was a banger, Ryan Garcia Oscar, you know, back
and forth, back and forth, we go. I did see
another one on brunch Boxing one of their posts saying
Ziez had accepted a February twenty second bout with Virtual Artis,
but Ortiz chose the safer route in mandra Mouth, which

(01:08:47):
I don't think is a safer route because you could
say that was the harder route, just based off you know,
him fighting Crawford, you know, and what he did in
that fight. Oh, Keshan Davis said that. He said something
like he's basically done with boxing or whatever. But I

(01:09:11):
also saw him on the Aerial Show saying he hasn't
done any training in two months since missing weight, which
is kind of weird. Doesn't expect to fight again for
twelve months now. That's not a great sign based off
the deal with Top Rank. Maybe he's just trying to

(01:09:31):
put pressure on him and maybe they have a deal
and he doesn't like his arrangement. Maybe they don't have
a deal and he's like, hey, dude, something's got to give.
I know he's under contract, but don't they have to
deliver certain amount of fights per year. I'd assume I
haven't read his contract, but I'd assume that's it there.

(01:09:54):
So yeah, that's that's kind of funky. I don't think
he actually met retiring, but he was just like, well,
my promoter basically, you know, maybe he thinks the promoter
won't you know, won't answer the calls. Whatever. Here's Jim
Cross right, great boxing, follow Great Boxing nine. This is
just zone for you, right. I don't know if this

(01:10:18):
applies to everyone, but his own Canada has introduced his
own Plus Ultimate, which is putting almost everything worth watching
behind a second payball. Okay, we go back to that
additional cost, right, the new price forty nine per month.

(01:10:42):
You know ESPN, and I believe is that ESPN and
Fox are gonna come out with an app. I don't
think it's fifty bucks a month. Actually, I think it's
going to be lower than that. But even if you
know Fox Sports and ESPN, they got a lot of
fucking popular sports in America, right in America, they do though,
so that would be worth it. So it's it's four

(01:11:05):
hundred and sixty nine per year. He basically said that
the subscription, you know, get you the leftover trash. It's
just like, oh my god, that is just nuts. Dude, like,
if that's your idea of pay, so we're gonna pay
fifty a month because, like I said, he said for

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the pay per view fights, So that, like I said,
does that still mean you're doing that? Then? Did I mention?
I don't think I did. The BBC BBC one and two,
I've revealed that would be broadcasting, even with replays of
the events on the eyeplayer. So bench loan Boxer got

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a new broadcast deal. I've heard it's like once a quarter.
I've heard a little bit more. I don't know, but
we'll see. I don't get too excited about that, because
you know, he's got to show more. He's got to
show more. Chava ESPN he's talking about Pedro Guavarro and

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Adrian Kirel have agreed to fight each other September six.
That's what the Nunias and Diaz that'll I think that's
on ESPN Knockout, that's the co feature. So that's kind
of interesting. Oh and I also saw was a Falaja
sport that Glovekin might be returning and it would be

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at one seventy five. Watsie Parker. I like that fight.
Someone sent me a message, what do you think of
this November one. I think Manchester, Yeah, got of work,
out of work Marcos over at fight Hub. I saw
this tweet. I think Turkey's going straight to the fighters
now instead of the manager promoters. So I wouldn't be

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surprised that they didn't know about the fight offers at all. Dude.
It's like he's so plugged in. He's not plugged in
at all. Like that's been what it has been from
the start with Turkey for the most part, because I
remember Wilder going over there with his management or with
not al. But you know, I remember many a fighters

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said they like to take talk to the fighter first,
and if you want to bring your manager, cool, but
fighter first, and then bring back those digits that those
offers to the promoter or to the manager whatever. It's like,
Come on, dude, like what we what are we doing here?
Like what kind of a tweet is that? That's what

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it's been? Where have I seen Orties in Ennis being staged?
I did see Las Vegas, but I don't know. I
don't know if it's gonna happen or not. But I
believe I believe I saw Vegas, but you know, I don't.

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I don't really know. I don't really know. Berlanga. Keith
Conley put out something on Instagram Berlanga come back plan set.
I think he said December Danny Garcia at the Barclays
October eighteenth. I think top Rank saw this on brunch Boxing.

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Shouts out to brunch Boxing. Check out the YouTube channel too.
All right, sub sub it up. Top Rank will be provided.
Fighters will be providing fighters to help the October eighteenth
Barclays car so that we'll see. Let's see where that is.
What do I think of Eddie Hearn saying the Bivil's

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gonna go up and fight out Opataiah like, Hey, that's
a tough fight. But what are we doing here? You
know what I mean? What are we doing? Why the fuck?
You know? Why? Why? Why do that? When you owe
a fight? Another message? What's my favorite fight on the
Canelo craw for all that on the on the under card,

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that's easy and Billy and Martinez banger. I like Martinez
in that fight, but a banger. I love that fight.
That's a great fight, great great fight. The other two whatever.
I wasn't expecting a ton to be honest with y'all,

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but we'll see. Griddy shouts out to gritty Eddie Hearn
doesn't turn ray Ford into the undercard. U gave fighter? Uh?
I mean to be fair well, he was on the
undercard though, so he's right. But to be fair well,

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no he wasn't. He was, but he was fighting a
good fight. He was fighting a good fight. But to
be fair to gree he was on the undercard rather
than a main event and that fight that was made,
that was a main event worthy fight. And just to
give you some quotes, because I know people will.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Be like, no, no, no, the deal says no pay
per view, right, you know, here's some quotes right from
cage bites.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
M m A. Dana White makes it clear that the
UFC isn't getting rid of pay per views entirely. One
off paper events are still possible. What I love about
the business is I can lay out what we think
fights are going to be for a year and a
fight will pop up that I never saw coming, A
star will pop up out of somewhere. Anything is possible,

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and you could do a one off pay per view.
I'm going to be on the pay per views. The
Saturday pay per view is not dead. And that makes sense, dude,
if you do get another McGregor randomly, You don't think
you don't think that Paramount is gonna want to make
some money off of that deal? Extra money? Yeah, because

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Dan said that, you know U Tko is you know,
is the front runner is Paramount. But like I said,
you know, I don't know if that's true. But Dana
said they already got a deal in place. I don't know.
What did I think of the offer sent to Hazos

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Ramos from Eddie Harri? What do I think of it?
From the sounds of it, I don't think anything of
it because it didn't happen. It wasn't Hazu. Did I
just say that wrong? Someone said, Hayesus Ramos, What do
I think of the offer U sent? You know with
Hazus Ramos, I think it's a I think Ramos is
a better fight than old Boy. But you know, like

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it was his brother Abel, Ramos have got the deal.
So there has been talk about maybe on that same card.
I don't know about you know about Stevens. Sure course
Stevenson being on there, but then there's there's talks about

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Shaquart and top Malopez. I don't know. I don't know
about all that. I really don't know if that would happen. Okay,
verbal agreement. This is boxing scene. Keith Thurman Sebastian Frondora,
October eighteenth. I'd assume a prime pay per view it

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gets Fondora back in a hurry. You'd have Keith Thurman
fight more than every four years or whatever. You know,
I want to see the odds of that fight, because
say what you want, dude, but I'm saying like, stylistically,
we know the old cliche, but cliches, some of them anyway,

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ar cliches for a reason. Styles make fights and the
style and we know that you know I talk about
Morrell stay on game plane, dude, We know that Thurman
would stay on game plan. But we also know that
Fandora would attack that body. So I actually liked the fight.

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I think it's a good fight. There was some talk
about Thurman or her tease and that he turned down
that fight. Well now we know why. Now we know why.
I think this is a more winnable fight for him.
But maybe maybe not. And if you're ever going to
fight in a controlled manner with your jab keeping, guys,

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you know at the end of your punches. Basically what
Fandora did in his last fight, and he showed you know,
he's shown signs of that before, but never he's gonna
have to do that this fight, at least for a
good chunk of it until Thurman. You know, maybe you
get him on the rope, maybe he's heart to the
body all that shit. But stylistically, dude, it's not a

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like like a jab going to the body. Pot shot move,
pot shot move. Now, when I say the word move,
you know the legs. You know, the legs could give out.
You know, I'm not saying, oh, he's just gonna box
his head off, But that's a closer fight than I
think a lot of what I've seen people talking about.

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Let's just put it that way. As far as the
pay per view, another fucking pay per view. We're still
looking for a Amazon part of your subscription fight card.
So that's disappointing. They would have to really ramp up
that that pay per view under card. I saw boxing

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tickets put out. The live gate was over six million,
comps over allowed eight percent, so a million but a
six million dollar gate and just short of eight thousand
soul So does that is that really a five million

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dollar gate? Then with the comps. Is that is that
what's going on? But either way, that's still a healthy gate. Man.
It was a loud crowd, that's for sure. Now Yafaya
in Sandoval, it sounds like there's going to be a
fight there, you know, ya Faya? What's he got left? Man?

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What's he got left? I really don't know, man, I
gotta admit I do not know. Speaking of the PBC,
we've heard rumors of not just pay per views, but
you know a mixture of you know, it's what is
it mid August? Can we get We've heard rumors about

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a September and October card, but maybe they could announce
the September subscription card September twentieth or whatever that was
a working date or whatever. Obviously, ooh, you know what
I just remembered And this kind of goes with it
Fervante Davis talk about him to close the show. Clearly

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that fucked some shit up, right, because it was shit
I forgot. It was supposed to be this weekend the rematch,
which you know, I think we'll not roach more than
earned the rematch, right, but it's on brunch boxing. PBC
fighters slated for the fourth quarter their return now obviously

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not all of them are going to be on BBC cards,
you know, David Benavitez and whatnot. But the list is
pretty long. Let's see Tank Benavide is, Charlo Thurman Rowley,
the other Charlo from Dora, Russell, both Russells, actually maybe

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all three Russells. What am I saying? Yeah? All three Russells, Fulton.
We know there's a signed fight there. I was hoping
that would be, you know, part of the sub Pitbull
Morrell Rascendez that I mentioned for Dora. I think I
did David Morrell, Venezuela, Ryo Vargas, Hernandez, Yo n La Ni,

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Maxio Figueroa. Let's see what he would be doing. Caleb Plant,
Elijah Garcia, Lara Hey, that's right, Arizloni, Laura does fight,
Frank Martin, Otamus, play you Ramos and more. Let's see.
Let's see what they got planned to close was the year,

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because it's kind of been a stop start, stop start. Oh,
rumors of this that didn't happen, you know, so so
we'll see, we'll see how that that plays out. That's
that's about all we're gonna see there. I think that's

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oh yeah, I just mentioned Gervonte Davis. Okay, so you
know a couple of days ago, two days ago, this
is the according to t m Z Sports, the Miami
Dade State Attorney's Office says the case was dropped as

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the victim is declining to prosecute per her victim. The
victim's attorney right the witness to the incident. The victim's
mother also failed to cooperate in and basically she failed
after being subpoenaed for a pre It says pre file conference.

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I think that's a pre trial conference, isn't it. It
was actually supposed to be last Thursday. They tried to
follow up via phone and they were unsuccessful. So the
charges are dropped. And although I got some pushback for

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not throwing the book at Jimonte, mind you, this doesn't
mean nothing happen. Just like when you get charge of something,
it doesn't mean that happened either, right, And that's why
I try to stay neutral and just say what the
report is and get my thoughts on it. This all

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stems from a couple of incidents. But the one incident
that we saw on tape, you know, look bad in public.
You know, people say he choked her either way, you know,
grabbing her by the jacket like that near her neck.

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He didn't choke her, but he he physically did something
to a woman you shouldn't do, and he did it
in public, And so yeah, your mind races to, like, damn,
if he's willing to do this in public, what's he
willing to do, you know, behind closed doors? So yeah, yeah,
that that that races through your mind. But that's why

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I just didn't rush the judgment overall. And that means
was he gonna fight again this year and all that stuff?
And even if he had like a you know, like
a trial and all that, he's still got a fot
you know like stuff. It probably wouldn't have been scheduled
for a long time anyway. So I'm not saying, see

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this proves it because I don't know. Just like I
said originally, I don't know. People either love or hate Tank,
and so people run with it or protect him, and
I do neither. Neither neither either either. So yeah, I

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mean it is what it is. I don't know, you know,
because does this mean he didn't do shit? It could
It could mean that the last two incidents could mean
exactly that that he just he didn't do shit, and
she's looking for a handout. Now, could we hear of
news in the future that there's a civil thing and

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there's a settlement or something. We could We definitely could.
I don't know, though, I don't know. I'm not gonna
sit there and say, oh, it's it's a civil I'm
not gonna spread rumors, you know what I mean? Either way,
Gervonte needs to bring his ass back in the rematch.
Man he can fight somebody out. Give Lamont roach the rematch,

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bottom line, and then if you want to go fight Pack,
y'all go fight Pack. Whatever the fuck. But it sounds
like Patya is gonna be back in de summer, so
and maybe they want to, you know, match him with
Manny now while they gettings. I guess you could say good,
you know, I don't know that would sell, and it's

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not like you're gonna get Manny fifty million up front
or something, you know what I mean. It would sell, though,
and I could see Amazon being very attracted to that fight,
but I'm not calling for the fight. What I understand
from a business perspective why they would do that, And
like I said, why Nanny didn't look old is too old.

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He looked better than I thought he would, but he's old.
Why not just get him right now and then go,
you know, maybe get the Roach fight after. I don't
I have no blue, but I would prefer the Roach rematch.
I think he earned it. And YadA, YadA, YadA. Anyway,
I'm gonna get out of here. It's it's it's a

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good card man. You know. We also have some other
fights this weekend. We have a pro box tomorrow night.
I believe there was something I want to say, was there, like,
was there a weighing issue with somebody? I can't remember?

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I can't remember. Yeah, I just don't remember. Yeah, don't
I don't remember if there was was there a waying
issue with somebody on that card? Uh? Let me did
actually double check here? Okay? Either way, there is a

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pro box and I saw on is it Swerve Swerve TV.
You notice, like if you have Amazon Prime, you know,
you get a bunch of old school fights. They got
boxing channels. They got an HBO boxing channel and on
direct TV stream. Anyway, I think it's called Swerve they
you know, I saw the not long ago, they had

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the Mayweather Codo fight. I think the undercard was was it? Uh?
I think it was Canello and Mosley. They also showed
the Mayweather Mosley fight, which I was at live, So
I've seen the most hurt Floyd Mayweather has been in
a ring, at least it appears to be the most hurt.

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But I also saw what he does when he gets hurt, right,
So yeah, you have I think it's yah yah koop
yakoubav something like that, and Foster William Foster, Castillo and
Bunch and it's pro box, it's cheap man, check it out,

(01:31:03):
UFC fight pass A Trinidad para that that's both of
them are tomorrow. You have Rodriguez and Cortes on Saturday,
that's on ESPN Knockout and then yeah, I mean, I'm
not gonna tell you that, like the rest of August
is popping, you know what I mean. It's like, that's
why we really need September. It gets better, it definitely does.

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But that's why we really need this card to pop.
Like three out of those main four fights. Let's hope
that we see you know, a Tama get pushed it,
you know, maybe get chin checked a little bit, and
and we get entertainment on this card anyway, I'll be

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back next week more of a regular scheduled time. Hopefully
John can join us. Either way, enjoy the fights. We'll
check you in next week.