Jake Paul Beats JCC Jr! What's Next? Recap Wilder, Ramirez, Mbilli! Haney vs Norman Jr Done Deal!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, what are boxing fans. This is the rope of
Dope Radio podcast. I am your host, Chris Carlson. We
are live on a Monday night, kind of random tried
to do one Thursday. Technology got in the way with
the person I was going to do the show with.
It got all messed up, ended up not doing it today.

(00:27):
My internet randomly went down so they had to fix it. YadA, YadA, YadA,
and yeah, so it even got delayed during the day.
I had plans tonight. I'm not trying to woe is
me people, but anyway, we are back. I'm sorry I
missed last week. Like I said, try to do it Thursday,

(00:48):
didn't work out. Try to get this puppy out earlier today,
but it it just for whatever reason, maybe it's Jake
Paul bro the boxing gods are sending a message to skin.
Everybody's blaming Jake Paul for a variety of things that
although you can be critical of Jake paulin in certain ways,

(01:16):
well we won't get into that right now. Okay, anyway,
welcome back to the show. This is the real rope
a Dope Radio. By the way, there's two other podcasts
that have the name in some form or fashion, do you.
I mean, ultimately I didn't come up with robodope, right,
Muhammad Ali did. So it is what it is. But

(01:39):
this is the real one. You know. They weren't as
creative as I was. And obviously ultimately Mohamad Ali was right.
Just had to get that out there had been getting
messages on that. Hey I saw this other one. Yeah,
it is what it is. Man. Well I'm not going

(01:59):
to get it that either, the UK laws and all that. Anyway,
we're gonna talk about some boxing. Jake Paul Junior. We'll
just call it. I don't even want to say that
full name. I think it's disrespectful to senior. So maybe
I'll just Jase J C C Junior. He was a

(02:24):
no show. Anybody mad at that? I mean, this is Junior,
So what did you expect? Anyway, we'll talk about that.
We'll talk about some of the undercard action. U Dordikos
put up a good Dortico's Dordicos put up a good

(02:46):
fight early on, not even early on for a while,
then kind of just fell off against Gilberto Ramirez, J
Paul Ramirez. Anyone would they actually do that fight? I'm
saying no, I don't think there's enough money in it.
But anyway, we'll talk about the undercart. Floyd Schofield. Wow,

(03:08):
now that was impressive, very very impressive. We'll talk about
m Billy didn't really need many, you know, many minutes,
right Wilder. We'll talk about that, a lot of back

(03:29):
and forth on that. Obviously, he's a name fighter, especially
in the States, but overall he's a name fighter. He's
past his prime. A lot of people have an opinion
on why is he even fighting. Others now think he's
can make a.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Run at the title. I mean, you know, the title
could come loose and he could beat a random or
something like that. But we're going to talk about it.
You know, we're gonna talk about it. I thought there
was things you could take away that were positive, and
I think there was some still things that tells you
he's just too past.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
It, man, you know, he's just too past it. But
you know, it is what it is when it comes
to that. So we'll talk about a variety of things
that happened recently, and then you know, I do want
to talk about Norman Junior and some other stuff that
I missed last week. Obviously, we got the news that

(04:27):
seemed dead. Hany and Norman Junior are fighting later this year.
That's a hell of a fight, great fight. Gonna give
my take on it, like my first glance at it,
so to speak, and also give both fighters a lot
of credit. Devin Haney looking for the smoke. Shouts out

(04:50):
to him, especially coming off you know last year's performance
that was pretty dreadful, well not dreadful. He actually looked
okay in the realms he was winning, but then you know,
he kept getting dropped, clearly got tied up in the
grind Garcia drama. But also shots out to Norman Junior.

(05:13):
And we will revisit what people, including myself said about
him and the Boots Ennis fight and should he should
he not? What did he do? Did he screw up?
We're going to talk about it. We'll talk a little
bit about this weekend. It's light caterall U Bank, you

(05:37):
know that type of thing speaking of there is a
UK fight that just popped off, a rematch you Bank
and Ben you Bank Junior and Ben I should say,
clarify that and then some other you know, current fight news,
boxing Twitter stuff. You know, there's lots to talk about
it in a variety of ways there, but yeah, we're

(06:01):
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JCC Junior was a no show, right, you know, I
heard about the news of him being in rehab not
long ago. Hopefully that goes great for him, not just good,

(07:59):
but great. You know, there's plenty of stuff to say
about both of these main events fighters, but and there's
plenty of things that dog on, you know, Junior four.
But when it comes to that type of stuff, man,
I hope all is well with him. He got a
payday here, hopefully he can figure that part out. But

(08:25):
and I gotta say, like, look, looking at the scale,
he didn't look he didn't look that bad. I gotta admit,
I gotta admit, but he just was a no show.
Besides the two first rounds, it was kind of like
our last rounds to first last two rounds, especially the
last one, but the last two kind of remind me

(08:46):
of that didn't do shit against Canelo, didn't do really shit.
Against Martinez until he hurt him late. But either way,
the jab by Jake Paul, the body shots kind of
mixing movement on the outside with some pressure, landing a
few nice you know right hands here and there, but

(09:07):
really the jab and the body work, you know, adding
a hook here and there, adding the right hand somewhere,
like I don't know, it just kind of it just
fell into a pattern right away, and he you know,
he just wasn't doing shit. JCC Jr. I'd say maybe

(09:29):
sixth seventh round the uppercut. I think it was a
right uppercut if I remember correctly, by h Jake Paul.
He started adding that to his repertoire. And you know,
like it was either Paul on the outside jabbing pot
shotting with the right hand moving pretty well or pressing

(09:55):
you know, Junior back and him not doing much. So
now you know he finally did something, landing big shots
in the ninth and the tenth, like I said, but
it was far too little and far too late for
that shit like it was. It was bad, dude. I

(10:17):
mean there's bad and then there's that. You know that
it was bad. I'd say it's worse than I thought,
Like I understand, like doing your thing for a little
bit and letting them kind of gas out or whatever,
you know. And by the way, there were times where

(10:37):
this is the first ten rounder correct for for Jake,
So there were some times where he looked tired, you know,
and that's normal for a prospect to go ten rounds
for his first time. But job is I mean, when
you look at the overall punches and I'm just gonna
go round by round four punches thrown, seven punches thrown,

(11:00):
three punches thrown. He was all the way up to
twelve in the fourth round, ten, sixteen, eleven, then finally
twenty five, thirty five and thirty one. He landed sixty
one shots and the whole fucking thing sixty seven tou
was seventeen to the body, like the jab, you know,

(11:23):
sixty five to eight, seventy five to fifty. Just it's
not even worth going through the shit, even though I did,
you know, it was just bad, clearly, like that's that's
not really you know, saying a whole lot, right, Yeah, man,
it was just a no show, which he no showed

(11:46):
for you know, other fights when he was in his prime,
or just a little laughter, you know, his Prime, but
he's old now and uh so I get why he
was an opponent, but it was just a no show.
And credit to Jake Paul. He did do his thing.
He didn't get the knockout. But it's not like, you know,

(12:09):
you can just knock out. You could say a lot
of things like I said, I keep saying about j C. C. Junior,
But you don't just knock him out, you know. But
as far as Jake, you know, like as a prospect,
he does have some skill level man, and we just
have to see it against better fighters. I know that

(12:33):
potentially he had something injury wise, you know whatever against
Tommy Feury. He looked like shit in that fight. Is
he a better fighter than then? Yeah? Is he a
better fighter to like beat Fury Tommy Fiery? Maybe now?
Because how many how much improvement has Feary made, I

(12:55):
don't know, but he does have to start proving it
at some point against the higher level opponent. And you
know he's he's being moved. Just fine for me, because
you know, it was a gimmick for a while. It
still has gimmick five to it, of course, but he

(13:20):
does have some skill and for a guy who didn't
fight since he was ten. He's got a good jabb
you know, he is starting to show better skills. It
looks like he can take a good punch. We'll see ultimately,
right And so you know, like I remember watching a

(13:43):
chunk of years ago with my nephews when they had
that that that co feature fight. I think it was
KSI right in Logan Paul and he was on the
co feature and right away because they had they wanted me,
they had watched it, and when I got up.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
There, because they live kind of further north, even though
people that I know from around the country say, oh,
you're going up north, further north than Minnesota, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
They live a little higher in the state. Let's say
I went up there, the fight had already happened, and
then they wanted me to score it, you know, so
I scored it whatever. But I was like, dude, Jake's
a way better fighter than, you know, than his brother.
And I guarantee if they ever thought he'd beat him.
But you can tell he had some he had something
to him, you know. And I've always given Jake, you know,

(14:36):
credit for really training and trying to become a fighter,
professional fighter, and I get why he did the gimmick stuff.
And remember before these fights, even in old old Anderson
Silva and you know, other guys like Diez and you
know whatever. It's like a lot of people would kept

(15:00):
discrediting him. But if you look at what they were
saying prior to the fight, then why'd you think he
was gonna lose? Then? You know, so you gotta give
credit where credit to deserve. Now you can't be like, oh, dude,
he beats Canelo. Bro Canelo's past his prime, So Jake
beats him. Nah, Canello fucks him up. Ramiraz Gilberto who

(15:23):
didn't live all that great, he'd fuck him up. Like,
let's not mix words there. Like he he's not a
top ten guy. Now it sounds like he's gonna be ranked.
You know, within the range is top ten, top fifteen.
I think you gotta be top fifteen if someone has
a belt. But you know, like as a prospect, he's

(15:49):
got he's got something going on, dude, he's not just now.
We got to see though. You know, you can look
good jabbing and moving and all that, and I like
how he finds open targets, he goes to the body
and whatnot. But we got to see against better fighters
closer to their prime, and that's where that is. Has

(16:13):
he brought eyeballs from MMA to an extent in those fights?
Has he brought some youth to boxing for certain reasons? Yeah?
Has he transformed the sport and now that youth just
love boxing? No, but he hasn't been bad for boxing.
And a lot of people gave John and I shit

(16:35):
when you know, we thought Canelos should have fought him
in May and knocked his ass out, fucked him up
on Netflix. That would have been a great cash out,
great cash out for Jake too, by the way, but
at some point a boxer has to fuck him up,

(16:56):
and so why not then? And then go to the
Crawford fight, And we got a bunch of shit for it.
But what'd you think of Canello's fight? You know, was
that a good fight? And I'm not blaming just him
in that fight because clearly that wasn't you know, his opponent,
his opponent shouldn't have been in the ring with him though,
you know, so I don't think it was that crazy.

(17:17):
And either way, Goodwin we'll see. You know, if he
thought Gilbert were Miruz, I would give him a ton
of credit, because even though, Gilbert, and we'll get to
it here. Gilberto did I just say Gilbert, Gilberto didn't
Zerto didn't you know, he didn't look at all that good.

(17:38):
He looked he looks, you know, he's gone up and
wait and it seems like his body keeps looking worse,
you know, as as he goes up. He didn'tn't look
in tiptop shape. Let's get to that fight though. So yeah, Jake,
he did his thing. Like I said, I think he's
somewhat limited, but he's better than people think. That's not

(17:59):
the say I'd have him as a top ten cruiser,
you know, I'm just saying that I wouldn't step them
up to Gilberto next. I get why he'd fight Canelo though,
because that would be a huge pit anyway, Let's uh,

(18:21):
let's do the zerto Dorticos, Dordico's, Dortiko's. I'm not gonna
say anything else there. I gave Dordiko's the first three
out of the first four rounds. I liked what he
was doing with the body, the right hands to the
head in the body, but just overall, you know, I

(18:42):
thought he was landing the better lands. I was landing
the better lands you could tell I've been off for
a little bit, but I just thought he was landing
better in general, right in the first and second round,
third round, some really nice left hooks in early pressure
from Ramirez, and I thought he was, like I thought

(19:04):
he was defending himself better at that point. Uh, Dorkos
did atlant his jab, which was stiff like pretty much
the whole fight, and then a few rights, but I
did give Ramirez the third the fourth it started to
like be a pretty good strap here in the exchanges.
I think in the middle of the fourth round, really
good exchanges, heavy shots by Ramirez or I mean, yeah,

(19:28):
with Ramirez on the ropes, like in the last minute.
I think Ramirez was on the ropes at times in
this fight too long. I think there was a strategy
to it, though. And then once the fifth round hit.
You know, not that I didn't give any rooms to Dordikos,
but you know, this is where Ramirez stepped it up

(19:50):
in Dordikos did do good in the early round of
the fifth, but the better like the counters with the
left hook, you know, right hand, whether it was to
the body or head, was there, you know, so so
I thought I thought it was really good, but I

(20:11):
thought I think the left filt counters were the best
in the fifth round though, a steady, steady jab in
the sixth though, along with right hands that landed to
the head and body as well by dorticals. I gave
him the sixth and there was a nice left hook
in there too, but overall Ramirez started layding a better shot,

(20:33):
even if he wasn't necessarily throwing more or landing more
at times in the seventh competitive round. In the eighth
but I gave it to Ramirez. That's the I think
that's the round where prior to the beginning of the
round his corner was like take a break, and it's like, well,

(20:55):
you do have a lead on the card, but I
don't know about taking a break. You know. There was
a point deducted in the tenth, so I gave him
the ninth to Ramirez. I gave him every round after that,
eight through twelve, I gave everyone to Ramirez, So eight
to four, maybe seven to five, seven four one or something,
but it was one seventeen, one, ten and two one

(21:16):
fifteen one twelves. The point deduction for a low blow,
which he had been warned in the tenth round. Ramirez
just you know, like I said, I thought he improved
his defense a little bit, uh Dordicos. Dortico's was starting
to get back, you know, backed up a little bit
and just kind of faded. But like I said, he

(21:38):
fought really well and it was a I thought it
was a pretty entertaining scrap overall good fight, especially in moments.
So I will say this though, Ramirez, you know, he
didn't look all that great. I do have to admit that,
but you know, it could have just in this fight

(22:01):
how he wanted to, you know, how he wanted to fight. Now,
you know, should he take on the Lineal Chat or
should he try to get a fight with Jake. I'd
try to fight Jake because it's gonna be more money,
and I know that's like well legacy for Lineal. Yeah,
but he ain't beaten. He's not gonna win that fight,

(22:24):
and so you could make the argument, you know, that
he just beat Jake Paul and then he can go
for Linear. But you know that's my take, Girdle. He
looked okay. You know, I think it was a little
strategic thinking that he's gonna wear his opponent down, but
also strategic where he didn't want to get too tired early.

(22:47):
You know, we're so used to seeing him, you know,
as he came up, just in general of being such
an aggressive fighter. But of late there's been some boxing
going on, some that you're like, all right, that's pretty good,
and others you're like, eah, I don't think that's gonna
work on the high level. But either way, Zerdo did
get the win. That Rodriguez Griffith fight. Ooh, that was great.

(23:13):
You know. There was a knockdown in that eighth and
for him to come back in the ninth Rodriguez with
a huge left hand and a right I think it
was a left and a right hand in the ninth
had him hurt big, big, but with like twenty seconds
left or something like that huge right hand and then

(23:36):
knocked him out damn near out of the ring. That
was a great, great win by Rodriguez. Dude, that was
that was a good fight, man. Like I think there
was a line there that I can't I think it
was Grisham who said, you know, when the fights kind

(23:59):
of aw, it's pretty slow, but when it gets good, man,
it's pretty damn good. And I'd have to agree with
that because it is it seemed like Griffin, you know,
it just kind of seemed like he had a bad start.
I would, I think, looking at my scorecard, I get
you know, I didn't give him many in the first

(24:19):
six rounds. But then he started coming on and you know,
the seventh round, obviously the eighth he knocked him down,
and so you're like, oh, wow, like this is a
this is a damn good fight. And when it did
get competitive, man, I liked it. And so Rodriguez to

(24:40):
be down, you know in the eighth and come right
back hurt him and then you know, obviously to get
to do what he did to knock him out like
that in dramatic fashion. Man, that was that was something
that was. That was a fun fight. Man. I really
liked it. Like I said, he damn near knocked him

(25:01):
out of the ring, and Griffin fought pretty damn good.
I thought that was that was pretty fun. That was
that was a good scrap man. And you you know,
when you have that dramatic stuff happen. I don't know,
it's just it's just fun in a stupid, silly way.
It is just fun. You know. I think like it's

(25:23):
just it's just drama and and when you get stuff
like that happening, it just it just adds so much
to the sport and it just it kind of reminds
you why I love the sport. Now, he wasn't way
down on the scorecards or something and then dramatically pulled
it out. But it looked like the fight had shift shifted,

(25:45):
and because it had, but you know that that was fun.
Reneelverado ran over Victor morales Man. I mean, how many
realms could you give Victor? One? Maybe two? Like that
was impressive. I didn't see that coming, Holly Holme. I mean,

(26:06):
one sided, easy decision. Now, you know she was a
big favorite. But you start to go, huh, maybe you know,
like I don't know, dude, you know, like maybe maybe
she's just is she when's the last fight you had?
And you start to go and to your head a
little bit like hmmm, like I don't know, you know,

(26:30):
But either way, she did her thing, like real clean,
easy win for her. Oh yeah, and who else? Who
else fun on that? Carl? Let me look at the
oh cull that he he what was it the fourth
round or something like that? That was yeah, that was

(26:53):
that was a good win for him. So yeah, it overall, like,
you know, I thought that was pretty good. But I
was surprised that Alvarado had you know, like did what
he did what he did, you know, I really was
I was surprised on that. I didn't think that that's

(27:16):
how that would go down. I really have to admit that.
And he he's the league one, like simple now Raoul
Kirell he what was it the fourth round, I believe
beat Rodriguez. I mean he just you know, he won

(27:40):
it pretty cleanly. Was a good fight though, like these
dudes were, you know, in a short amount of time.
These guys were going at it, and you know, Rodriguez
was busy, he was he maybe not been as accurate,
not even close, but he was thrown. So it was
a spirited fight how it lasted. And Raoul Krell beat

(28:03):
Victor almost Rodriguez. So that was that was pretty good.
Also that I think it's brad Ree and Pitters, Re Pitters,
Rea Rhea Pitters. That was a good little scrap dude.
I did like that fight, and I'm just kind of
that wasn't on that card. Just kind of overall talking

(28:27):
about it. Basically, I think that you know that that
had that had some good action to it that definitely
had some good action to it. So also on the

(28:47):
card or just from the weekend, I'll start to just
talk about the weekend whatever. Floyd's Goodfield and Tevin Farman,
Now I did, you know, on the surface like this fight.
I did because I was like, all right, dude, like
you know, we've seen a resurgence. I would have to

(29:11):
say from Tevin Farmer and Schofield, you know, had the
fight lined up with Shakur made, you know, allegations that
he got poisoned and stuff like that. I thought that

(29:32):
was really far fetched. Some folks are like, yeah, maybe
he's right. I don't know about that, but I do
think it's funny though. But he did his thing, dude,
Like I liked how he was like early like land
in some punches, right, but circling him like like a

(29:52):
little quick little punches circle, you know, like I did.
Because the thing is he did for me have that
Sean Porter thing where he smothers and he's out of
control and is I don't think he'll ever have like
high level defense, but if he can do the little
things like use distance and you know, be at range

(30:13):
but just out of range, you know, at the at
the edge of the pocket sometimes and circle and and
switch it up. Then I think he's a very dangerous spider.
And you know, right off the bat, like I said,
he lands these little quick combos and then you know,
and then circle and so pretty much early jab right

(30:35):
hand down and I'm like, oh shit, okay, we got
a little scrap here. Holy shit, like this is or
we don't have a scrap, you know, And I think farmer,
I kind of thought that he popped up on the
first one, okay, I thought he could have probably taken
his time in the second one. The second one was

(30:58):
like left and right hooks, just short, little fast ones
that landed like especially two of them dropped them again.
And I did think Tevin could have could have hung
out a little bit. Now, you you know, you don't
want to wait. You always talk about that throughout the year,
because when we see a fighter get up at like nine,
it's like, hey, dude, you're you're putting yourself in a

(31:20):
bad scenario. So I thought he should have stayed down
a little bit. But then a big left hook basically
like it didn't drop him, but he was for a
moment there he was defenseless, like he he his arms
were kind of wide open and his head was down.

(31:44):
Like I said, he didn't go down, but there was
a clean shot in their left hook that you know,
his head down, his legs looked, you know, they look shaky.
Were they completely gone? I don't think they were gone gone?
But he was done, dude. Now he didn't like to
stop it. Shots out to Tevin Farmer, I get it.

(32:05):
But he was done, dude. And when you when you
go down twice like that so early, and we all
know you can get caught early cold right in the
first round. We get it. We'll see if this is
kind of ultimately what happened, you know, but this is

(32:26):
a great performance. And when your head's down, looking down
in your arm, your guard is not there, you're defenseless
and you and so I didn't mind the stoppage whatsoever,
but I get it, you're not down. In some fighters,
it's hard to just knock them out at times, right,
and so, but shots out to Floyd Scholfield. He did

(32:49):
his thing. You know, early on he was aggressive, but
I thought it was like smart pressure with the circling
and all that, and like getting his combo off and
then you know, showing a little movement, you know. So, yeah,
that that was it. I didn't I didn't see that coming.
I admit, I put I had that plus money. I

(33:12):
had plus money, you know, for for a farmer, I
have to admit. So shouts out to Floyd Schofield. Man,
we'll see where he goes, you know, next. But that
was a big ass win. And we know Farmers not
in his prime, but what he's been doing lately, dude,

(33:35):
he's not that far, you know, He's not all the
way down that hill. As far as being over the hill,
we know that. So we'll see if far you know,
farmer keeps going and whatnot. Like I said, he had
a nice little resurrection. I don't want to take any
credit away from you know, Schofield, but that was a

(33:56):
damn good performance. I really, really, really really liked what
I saw out of him. That was. That was damn good.
That was good. Anyway, I just found my scorecard. I
had it seven to five for that fight. I was
telling you about the Rhea and pitters. It's like a
one seventy five fight. Like the good chunk of the

(34:22):
first round, the body work and just just the first
part of the fight was rare. And he uh, you know,
he he definitely was doing his thing, you know, but
you know, I think Pitters was a he started so

(34:44):
damn slow, but then the fight was kind of it
kind of moved the fifth and sixth round, it kind
of moved inside, and you know it, he started to
you know, he started to kind of do something there then,
you know what I mean. But it was just a

(35:07):
fun fight. It was a good scrap, you know, it
was it was competitive. It's definitely worth a watch, you know,
if he didn't see it. So the Christian and Billy
and Sue Lecky, you know, what can you say? It

(35:29):
was like first round over you know, it's like two minutes.
I can't even remember two minutes something. He just he
just ran over him. Now, Sue Lecky, you know it's
not loose Sue Lecky from a while back. I will
say that that's obvious. That's clearly obvious. But you know

(35:52):
it's it's still like, hey man, like you know, like
he's okay. He hasn't been like he did fight earlier
this year. He fought I think twice last year because yeah,
he fought uh diego checko if I remember correctly last year.
So you know, this was a stay busy fight, and

(36:16):
Billy's been having an issue getting big fights. You know,
he's staying active. Shouts out to him. I really hope that,
you know, the next fight that seems lined up gets
lined up. The or or b Bio or Bio John

(36:38):
o'baro or Bio. I think it is. He looked damn
good in his little you know, in his in the
fight that he had. I guess you could say Macmodoff
as well. That was pretty pretty basic there. But in Billy,

(36:58):
you know, there's just not a whole lot to talk
about as far as breaking it down and all that.
So you know, I'm not gonna not gonna go out
of my way to to break too much of that down.
But you know, I just hope that he gets a
big fight next. Wilder got what a seventh round TKO.

(37:22):
Like I said, there's positives and there's still some negatives.
You know. The positive is his jab, you know, whether
it's a you know, not a high level opponent, right, Okay,
that's fair because it wasn't. But he did the jab

(37:45):
look good. The jab did look good now like the
and he did actually throw some left hooks. But the
time his timing and pulling the trigger and land the
the right hand. It just it seems like it's still
not there. And like I said, I like some stuff

(38:11):
out of it. I thought he was throwing other punches
rather than just trying to land the bomb. And even
when he was, he jabbed some fight some other fights
he didn't. It was always like a patient waiting game
with him anyway, right, But when those openings present themselves,
it just doesn't seem like he's landing his right hand cleaning.

(38:33):
It's not that he doesn't, it doesn't seem like he's not.
You know, he's not. So the combination of he just
can't pull the trigger with the timing on it, and
then you know, so there was some positives, but the
negative is that and then the punch resistance. We know
it's it's it looks gone to me, it's it looks

(38:56):
it looks like it's been gone for a little while now,
you know it Finally those fury fights, ah, you know,
or cheez fights like he gave us a lot of
action fights, man. So you know, if he's gonna continue,
should he just go right to a j I mean,

(39:16):
if he wants, But it does sound like you know
he's gonna have at least one more fight, So I mean,
I don't know, like as a fan, what I prefer
him just to walk away with a win. Yeah, of course,
but this is boxing, and you don't always get what

(39:36):
you want as a fan when you come through when
you're you know, a fight that especially you know a
fighter you'll really like. So we'll see, you know, will
he will the next fight be this level of competition?
I kind of hope not because I think it does
have to be somewhat of a step up, but working

(40:00):
on some stuff. I think you can work on stuff
when you're older. How much is that really gonna happen
when push comes a shove or you know, he gets
the punch, resistance comes into play. Probably probably not a
whole lot. But I will say the positivity of the jab,
that's that's my biggest thing, is the job I did.

(40:21):
I did see him throwing it more. But we'll see,
you know what I mean, ultimately, we'll see now real quick,
the jaw here job the Tucker Simpson, right, this is
a little bit ago. Tucker did his thing. You know, Simpson,
amateur guy, hasn't really you know, done a whole lot

(40:44):
Beyond that, I did like how Tucker was kind of
you know, jabbing and boxing nicely on the outside, but
then you know, adding some pressure in there and you
know it. I liked how he's ducking or dodging, you know,
using his feed a little bit after landing Simpson. You know,

(41:08):
at time, I think like in the third round, looking
at my scorecard, he did laying a couple of good
shots on the inside and it definitely started to be
more on the inside in that round. But the fourth
and fifth it was more like stick and move and
you know, really nice left hands started landing pretty flush.

(41:29):
But like in the eighth round, in the ninth round
and in the early eighth through tenth there was like
some good back and forth but not not too crazy.
You know. Malechi, by the way, did his thing, but
it was a good win by by Tucker. Good win

(41:49):
by Tucker. I liked what I saw out of him.
And then Brian Norman Junior against uh Saki, not really
like right away left hook boom dropped him. Left hooks
and right hands, you know, the last minute, I'll say

(42:12):
Sasaki though, you know, shots out to him, dude, because
he was he was landing some stuff back, dude, like
he was. He was in there trying right, but some
heavy shots even though like even in the sixth round
or sorry, the second round, Sasaki's found a way to

(42:36):
close with good shots, but the right hand just overall,
but the right hand of the body was adding up,
just throwing bombs on him, you know, especially just repeatedly
right hands, and you know, once again Saki throwing back,

(42:57):
actually egging him on, like come on, dude, what else
do you have have? You know, but a nasty left
hook knocks out Sasaki cold, and it sounded like he
didn't remember like the last month. I'm not trying to
be weird about that or like, you know, laugh at
that or whatever. I'm definitely not doing that. But that's

(43:17):
that's what he said, you know, That's what he said.
So you know, I uh, I, you know, I thought
that was a great performance. Now, did I think, like,
you know, that he was gonna lose the fight or

(43:40):
something and that this was like a tough fifty to
fifty fight. No, it wasn't. But he handled business and
he looked good doing it. He looked really good doing it.
So and we're gonna talk about him later in the show.
Norman Junior and talking about also real quick, dude, Francisco

(44:03):
Rodriguez beat the hell out of your faire I mean,
beat the hell out of him, knocked him down. What
was it the twelfth round? Like maybe one, maybe two
rounds tops, I mean, Rodriguez beat this sh I did.
I didn't see that happen. I did not see that happen.

(44:27):
Took his first loss. I mean, man, I gotta say, dude,
he beat this ship. Francisco Rodriguez did his thing. Shouts
out to him, dude, spot you know, went the distance
with Knakatani Ayoka, Like he spot some dudes, man, and

(44:48):
like that was a great performance. I did. I thought
it would be a faire by by decision, dude. I
gotta admit. Uh Walker knocked out Tailor too. I think
it was like it was a left hook. I think
it was the seventh or eighth round something like that.
And that was, you know, kind of an interesting fight there.

(45:09):
Uh mcgrail and Baluta. That was a that was a
I think it was it was it a split or
a majority. I think it was a I think it
was a majority. Mcgrell had a pretty bad cut kind
of midway through the fight. I remember that, but yeah,

(45:30):
I mean, you know, as far as like should it
have been a split? Now, yeah there was drum. I
don't think there should have been, but that was an
interesting fight going in. So yeah, I mean that's about
probably all I'm gonna talk about from last week. You know,

(45:56):
it's still waiting to see with with Wilder, but I
just don't. I think, like I said, the timing, the
delivery mechanism, you know, the delivery to to get an
open shot. It seems like the jab and even the
left hook was there or whatever, and that's good, and
I like, you know, remember the rematch or the well

(46:19):
the rematch actually he was doing good in the first
two rounds, think got his assobd. But early in that
Trilogy fight he was jabbing to the body really well.
And also like the weight is more settled for him.
But yeah, I just can't. I wouldn't. I don't think
it's all negative, that's for sure, But I just I

(46:42):
don't see him, you know, like I said, a step
up from where he just had it, you know. Could
The thing about fighting Aj is like AJ does seem
a fair amount less washed, but we know his punch
resistant isn't great either. I don't think it's as bad

(47:03):
as Wilder's right now. But I could say, well, Wilder
could just knock him out, Yeah he could. But can
he land the right hand at the right time with
the timing and everything that That's what I I just
don't think he can right now, you know, I just
I just don't think he can. Ultimately, we'll see, but

(47:28):
I don't know. Man. So yeah, Jake Paul did his thing.
You know, Floyd Schofield had the best win. Obviously that's
not really up for debate, but as far as just
how he did it, you know what I mean, how
he did it was was pretty fucking crazy. I really, uh,

(47:49):
I really appreciated that because, like I said, you know,
just I don't know, like he just there's just times
WHEREUND like, I don't know about it. He got his
style and all that, I don't know, but he look good.
He looked very good. Let's see here. And you know,

(48:11):
Jake Paul, a lot of people have a lot to
say about him, and like I said, it's not that
there's not stuff to say about him, because there is.
But I did see Lance Pugmeyer say he was told
by the WBA Gilberto Mendoza that if Jake Paul Winston
this is prior, he will be elevated in the rankings,

(48:32):
making him eligible for a title shot against Ramirez ultimately.
So you know that, say what you want. But if
they did that fight, you know that that's kind of
I don't know, man, that that's kind of that'd be
a big step up. I don't think they should go

(48:53):
that high up, you know, I really don't. Oh, by
the way, I did get him. I'm just checking my
messages right now. That ring was silly, uh from two
weeks ago. Silly, just silly. It's just too little. It
doesn't make any sense, you know, I don't know it

(49:13):
was bad. I thought it was pretty bad. I thought
it was really stupid. But you know, you do what
you gotta do. You do what you gotta do. I don't,
I don't know. I don't. I thought it was really bad. Though.
I thought it was really bad. What else? Is there
anything else from last week and that I'm missing or

(49:36):
or the week before. I'm trying to go through my messages.
Did I miss something? I don't believe so there was
I think didn't something? Yeah? Uh? Garrido Garrido, Oh, Garrido.

(49:58):
He was like a ten and zero pro or something.
He got knocked. He got knocked the fuck out a
while back there. I did remember that one. Oh Brandon Lee.
Someone Uncle Pete on Twitter said Brandon Lee should go
for his postgraduate degree. He didn't look all that good.
Now we'll see if he can, uh, you know, stay active.

(50:20):
But he didn't look all that good. Sibby box And said,
Truck is another fighter who made noise in the amateurs
but couldn't translate it to the pro level. YEP, definitely, definitely.
Also Flemings Fleming, I think it was a body shot.

(50:44):
He was, you know, he looked pretty good too. Someone
sent me a message you know, about him. I think
that's about it. I think that's about all. Maybe when
I'm going to the other messages, i'll see something, but

(51:04):
you know, I don't know. I am. I am seeing
some messages for the you know, will we uh will
we get Gilberto Ramirez and Paul I don't know. I mean,
I don't. I don't think he's a big enough name
to where they're gonna give him enough money up you know,
I don't know. I just don't. I don't know. I

(51:26):
don't see it, you know, I just don't see it. Oh,
I saw this screen shot someone sent me from Jake Donovan.
Shots out to Jake right hand from Steven Butler floors. Yeah,
yeah that Butler actually, yeah, that that he was. I
did see that knockout. It just saw the highlights of it.
But that that was a good knockout, too, good shot.

(51:47):
Shouts out to the person that messaged me, Oh, Jean
Pascal got beat. Didn't look good. I did forget that.
That is another another one that I won't go too
deep into. Yeah, anyway, Yeah, I don't know. I'm looking

(52:17):
through my messages and seeing a lot of people saying,
you know, while they're going seven rounds with the guy
who Torres Junior stopped in quicker fashion, I hear that.
I hear that, it didn't really look.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Like he was going.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
For the knockout right away he did. It did look
like he was, you know, figuring stuff out. Oh another one,
Joshua Edwards Prospect obviously, Yes, that was a damn good knockout.
Damn good knockout. So yeah, I think that's about it. Yeah,

(52:59):
that's about it. I'm trying to think, oh what, oh,
someone had asked me this is like a screenshot of Jake,
Paul and Wilder. Now, is Wilder a big enough name?
Would he still be afraid of that right hand and
not want to get into the ring or Timid with

(53:19):
the right hand? You know, I don't know, but that
would be a name, that would be a name to fight.
Now you also have to go back up to heavyweight,
so you know there is something to be said about that.
So but yeah, I'm getting a lot of Oh, Julian Rodriguez,

(53:45):
by the way, I saw this brunch boxing shots out
to the whole crew. Uh, he has Julian Rodriguez has
announced that he has signed with Dana White and Turkey
with TKO Boxing. I saw that come across the brunch
boxing timeline, So yeah, like, good for him. Man, that

(54:10):
was I thought that was a really good story. I
really liked that. I thought that was pretty cool. I
thought that was pretty cool. So Jack Catterall, Harlem, ew Bank,
you know, for me, I got Catterall. I don't think
that's like going out on a limb. You know, obviously

(54:34):
I haven't even really looked at the odds, But excuse me,
I think I don't know. I think I'm gonna go.
I think I'm gonna put money on decision Harlem. Harlem
is a good fighter. He's not like a major underdog, though.

(54:54):
I'm seeing him like plus two forty, you know, stuff
like that. So he's not bad. I've seen a couple
of his fights. He's not He's not really that bad. Like,
I don't, I don't. I'm not calling for like Caterall
just to fuck him up right away, you know what
I mean, Well, not even that, but like you know,

(55:16):
like he just I don't know, like he doesn't have
a lot of power obviously, but you bank doesn't have
a lot of power either, And you know his level
of opposition. You know, his last fight it was solid. Man.
That was like in March or whatever against McKenna. I believe, Yeah,
it was solid, it was it was good. But I

(55:37):
just think when you look at who he's faced, I
just I don't know, you know, I think Caterall is
gonna win by decision. I don't think he'll knock him out.
Joe Cordina win. So you got Pat Brown and Sky
Nicholson and some others on the card. But I am

(56:00):
going by decision Catterall. I do think that'll be the
that'll be the the bet. I haven't made the bet
just yet. In fact, I'm gonna check it right now.
But yeah, that's on the zone. I believe that's on
his own, right, Yeah, that's on his zone. Yeah they're

(56:21):
not gonna pay or do that, right, But yeah, that
that's you know, I don't think it's like a blow
away fight per se. Like I said, the odds are
pretty close on it, so I think it'll be competitive.
And I just think the experience a guy who can
fight on the inside and the outside with Catterall, I

(56:43):
just think he's a better fighter overall. Yeah, minus one
fifty three by decision. And if you wanted to back
that up, is there a pause in there? Back that Harlem?
You bank plus four to twenty for all the four

(57:05):
twenty bros out there, And I'm talking about four to
twenty lead. Okay, not the other thing, cause fuck those people. Anyway,
I'm getting lost here. But if you do think that
he's gonna pull the upset, you know, you could throw
a little flyer and it might be a close enough
fight where I put a little flyer out there. So

(57:25):
so bet minus one fifty three by decision Catterall and
then just put a little, little, little little something on
a plus four twenty, you know, not the worst bet
just to back that thing up, you know, like it
it's because I think it's close enough to where you know,

(57:45):
I don't know. I do think it's it's it's close
enough where you're like maybe, you know, possibly, but I
think Catterall will just come through. He's a better overall fighter.
Like I said, he's just you just been there, done that, man.
He's a He's a solid fighter. Actually, you know, I
don't look at him as some super oprated guy or

(58:09):
something like that. He's a good fighter. I'm not trying
to overdo it either. But I just think, you know,
he he's I wouldn't put him in his prime, but
you know, I just I don't know. I think he'll
I think he'll do it. I don't think that's uh
saying much. Okay, So Devin Haney, Ryan Norman Norman Jr.

(58:34):
Done deal? What is it November? Sounds like it's a big,
big card coming up in November. It's a great fight, dude,
styles make fights. This is an interesting fight. I can see,
like Devin Haney went in a lot of rounds. But
then if you're looking at a guy with the left hug,

(58:57):
you know, like if you look at what's going on.
I love the fight, dude. Yeah, it's in November. It
is gonna be in uh you know, part of riot season.
Saudi Arabia. And the thing is, I like to reiterate this,
of course, when you're gonna put up this money, there's
gonna be fights in Sadi, Like I don't think every

(59:19):
Sadi fight that's there Saudi Arabia, Like, there's gonna be
fights there, dude. But I really hope that they kind
of blend how they're blending this year moving forward, where
you do have some fights that are in the place
where they should be, and then it's a good blend

(59:40):
of it, you know. So you know, puncher versus boxer,
I love it. You know, I favor Norman Junior because
of the power. I think your scorecard is gonna say, damn,
Devon's winning, and then Devon's on the ground. Now will
he not him out? Knock him out? That I don't know.

(01:00:02):
You know that, I don't know, but I do really
love I love it, dude. I love the fight and
shots out. Like I said earlier, Devin Haney, you know,
do your thing, dude, Like you you keep fighting some
solid ass fights, dude. You know it's it's a beautiful thing.

(01:00:24):
It is a beautiful, beautiful thing. And he's doing this thing, dude,
and this is ballsy fight because like I mean, we know,
you know, he's ready to fight Tao and whatever. But
like and obviously you know, like Brian Garcia was supposed
to be in there and all that. But man, like
I really like it. I really really do like it.

(01:00:49):
The style. There's gonna be some times where it's boring
or you know, non super not about of action or whatever,
but it's just really intrigues me. And then on the
Brian Norman Junior, you know, this is what I said
about Frank Martin and the chakor Stevenson said, you know,
the chakor Stevenson he wanted a little bit more money.

(01:01:11):
He lost the fight, but he did technically he was
tied enough to PBC right that he could get the
tank fight, and he ultimately did. Now let's revisit that.
This is why I'm open minded. I like to keep
the door open.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
I like to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
You know, be fair about it. Did I think that
Eddie could come up with some more money and get
him to to mil Sure, yeah, I do. For the
Boots fight, I do, but he could also taken the
one point seven, right, I think that's fair too. But
I also said, now, this only really affects him if

(01:01:49):
he doesn't get a big fight, whether that was gonna
be Tail in the future or Boots or whatever. Right, well,
he got a big fight, and we don't know how
much he's gonna get paid, but one point seven he's
getting that least that you'd assume. And either way, it's
gonna be a big payday, huge payday for him. So

(01:02:12):
you know, that's why you know some folks will say
you're in between on it, Well, sometimes you gotta be
in between on it because that's the reality of it.
And Norman Junior did get his big fight with the
big payday and it's Sadi, So they're not going to
be small checks, you know, per se right on this.

(01:02:34):
So I don't know what it's gonna be. I don't
know if it is going to be two million, I
don't know if it's three or four you know, I
don't know, but I know that it's gonna be big
if you look at what he gets per fight, right
if you look at his minimum. So in the end,
I always I always preferenced this when I was talking

(01:02:54):
about this topic of Boots and uh Norman Junior, that
if Norman Junior can secure a big fight than the
ennest thing, you could say he played it right. And
do I think I think dangerous wise Boots is more dangerous.
Devin's a pretty good boxer though, who boxes to win

(01:03:18):
the fight or win the round, whether you like it
or not. He tries to win the round where his
Boots gets a little loose with it, right, I think
he's a more dangerous fighter. I think he's got a
high level of skill though. I think he's better than
Devin eighty actually because of that power. You can't forget
the power, but you gotta give credit. I mean Norman

(01:03:42):
Junior to the gotta fight. He got a big fight, dude,
so you can only you know, you can only look
down on him for the nis thing so much. And
that's why I always left the door open, like, if
you can secure one, then ultimately it doesn't matter in
the Boots fight. You could you could make an argument
that the Boots fight's still there. So then he get
too big, Bay, you know, so they played it right ultimately,

(01:04:06):
and that's just factual. That's what happens. You know, you
can learn about the business shit, just like politics. You
can learn, learn, learn, You can watch the span, you
can see how bills, you can see the dark money,
you can see pack money, super packed, you know all
that stuff. But then you got to let the ship
play out too, and letting this shit play out played

(01:04:29):
right in the hands of Norman Juior and now you know,
lucky for him, Tail didn't take the fight, but hey,
that's how it went. Garcia lost, but hey, this shit happens.
So shots out to them both. Also, you banged Junior
and Ben part two in London, I remember hearing. Is

(01:04:53):
that true? It's in London. Shots out to that. First
of all, I gave it a lot of credit because
it was a damn good fight, fun fight to watch,
better than I thought it would have been. I admit
that it was a good ass fight. And now they're
having a rematch in London now. According to the Dumb

(01:05:16):
Sure September twentieth in London, right, so fight contested that
one sixty with the same day with the same day
weight limit of one to seventy. Really happy that's fight
is happening. I love it because, like I said, it

(01:05:37):
was a damn good fight, man, you know, and it's
where it needs to be in my opinion, it's it's
where it needs to be. So shots out there, man,
that's a good fight, and you know they're going to
cash in. It's a damn good fight. So I'm very

(01:05:58):
happy that that fight got made. We'll just kind of
do some other current fight new stuff in boxing, Twitter
and all that stuff. Now. Brunch boxing shots out to
them every Saturday. And then dude, they had Tim Zu.
They you know, they had Deontay Wilder. They've had some
really great interviews overall, but especially of late, they've really

(01:06:20):
hit it out of the park of late. But like
I said, overall, they have in depth interviews. You know,
back in the day of Ropodov Radio, when the format
was interviews and we'd do sometimes three a show, we
would do in depth interviews and wouldn't just ask basic questions.
And that is the like who you have, Najen. You

(01:06:43):
do have some other guy people out there, not just
guys that do pretty good interviews right or solid ones,
but brunch boxing really digs into it. And also, like
outside of the ring. They kind of you kind of
get to know the person too, really great stuff. So

(01:07:04):
shouts out to them in general. But you know, they
talked about it on their show that ESPN, you know,
is potentially interested and maybe maybe there's some early talks
or whatever, but potentially interested in having the PBC. You know,

(01:07:24):
ESPN PBC. Now we know they had a former relationship
time By that didn't amount to a deal. That definitely
opened the door for Top Rink as that lawsuit the
top rank had to PBC that got settled, so that
allowed them to go to ESPN as well, and they said, hey,

(01:07:46):
you know, like that that PBC deal that time By
showed us, Hey, if you if you do the right thing,
you make the right fights, you can get you know,
you can you can get some ratings and all that
and whatever. And you know, there's a variety of reasons
why the ESPN deal is coming to an end. I

(01:08:08):
don't I don't think they made enough in house fights.
There were some weight classes one, twenty six, one thirty, one,
thirty five, there's some stuff that they got accomplished. It'd
be silly not to say that, but you know the
way they were signing heavyweights, and then they just wouldn't
fight each other. And in certain fights, it just they
just wouldn't do it. You know, it's just like what

(01:08:30):
do we what are you doing? Like make the fights
in it. It seemed like they were at times just
getting that, you know, getting that money and not really
investing in it too much. You know, if you go
by the reports of ninety million a year. And I
remember way back when Max Kellerman I think was the

(01:08:52):
first one to break that, way back when well no,
actually no, no, I don't think so. I think it
was before that, yeah, for that. But anyway, speaking of
Max Killuman, he's back with t k O boxing for
this Canelo Crawford. I just think that they went out

(01:09:13):
of their way to make boogeyman's and then the Boogeyman
would get beat or look like shit, and then they
they instead of like matching it in the house or
or whatever. You know, they could have given up some

(01:09:34):
stuff for the for the Crawford Spence fight to happen earlier.
But if you look at not just Crawford, but if
you look at Bob and what he'd say about it
when it was going to be you know, could it
be like you know, Wilder Fury in a ESPN and
Fox or ESPN and Showtime or whatever. At the time,

(01:09:57):
it would have been Fox right back in twenty nineteen,
tw twenty. Yeah, and it just didn't line up with reality.
But that wasn't a fifty to fifty fight at that time,
and so they could have made that fight just whatever.
They could have done some other stuff. But you could

(01:10:17):
also blame Crawford for waiting to see what Many was
gonna do, and once Many signed with, you know, the PBC,
maybe he should have just waited to be a free
agent and either sign or do business with them, you know.
So it's not just people will always blame it on
the PBC, but you know, Crawford has something to do

(01:10:38):
with that too. Now I get the per fight. I don't,
I'm not. I don't think they would have guaranteed him
as many fights at the per fight that he was
given from top rank that he got. I don't. I don't.
I can't guarantee that, that's for sure. But then that
means you just took some money, and that's cool because
your per fight is cool. That's cool. But then it's

(01:10:59):
kind of like Andre where he went well, it's not
really kind of like that because Andred at least went
to a place where he was getting the per fight,
and I thought it was kind of a bullshit move
he did with Charlo acting like Charlotte didn't want to
fight him, even though Showtime had, you know, gave him
a deal one fight deal or a three fight deal.
But he ended up making the per fight more money

(01:11:20):
over there. Okay, cool, you know now he didn't end
up getting any of those fights over there. That's what
sucked for him, right, But they just they just they
just didn't, you know, they didn't take advantage of the
in house stuff. And for years prior the in house
people would rail against the in house, including this podcast,

(01:11:43):
because it was like, dude, forget the in house all
the time. When a fight's ready to be made, make it.
But when we were in the era, and to an extent,
we're still in that era, but nowhere near what we
are when we're in the era of top Raak has
a deal with ESPN, PBC has Mom of Fox and
showed you know, when people are separate, then you have
to It's not that I only like in house fights,

(01:12:07):
but the reality of the situation was you have to
deliver for the network, so then deliver your best product
like the PBCD Thatt one, fifty four and forty seven.
So to me, I thought they didn't make enough in house,
and then when they would collect fighters, sometimes they just
wouldn't push it, you know. Other times they had you know,

(01:12:30):
like they would build to a fight and they'd make
it and yeah, it was good. You know, there was
a build for Veldez and chikor or you know whatever,
and so it wasn't all bad. That'd be silly. But
you know, I thought that they short changed it too much.
I did like how they made the fights straight up

(01:12:53):
on ESPN. You didn't have to or ESPN plus you know,
that was dope, so you didn't have to have cable
to watch jop rank fights. I thought that was cool.
And I also thought the deal that they had from overseas.
We had a lot of overseas stuff in Japan stuff,
you know, fight UK Japan. I did like that part
of the deal, and I thought that was a positive.

(01:13:15):
Some of most folks think that ESPN didn't treat boxing
and right because of the lead ins, but I've always
disagreed with that because I watch other sports on ESPN
at like a big college football game if it's still
going more times than not, they're not. Even if it's
Alabama against somebody big, like a big name like Alabama

(01:13:37):
and whatever, like, they don't they start the game. They
delayed the game, but they started. I'm like ESPN News
or ESPN two or whatever, you know, So they can
do that for college football where the game that's in overtime,
you're going to keep that game on. Well, of course
they're going to do it for boxing, you know, so,

(01:14:00):
But I like the leadings, especially during the college football season,
but just in general, the leadings really help boost the ratings.
It just you know, I thought some of the under
card stuff waiting a route for the main event too long.
I think out of all the you know, we have

(01:14:20):
cards at Dragon, but when you're on live ESPN it's
non pay per view. I did think that they would
do too long of breaks between fights. You know, whatever
it is, what it is, So we'll see where they
end up. Some people, you know, with the ESPN think
you know that after the ESPN's done that they don't

(01:14:44):
have a deal at all and they're screwed and they're
just gonna up on his own or whatever. We'll see ultimately,
But the PBC on ESPN, I don't know what that
would mean for dates and whatever. But sign me up, dude,
because you know, ESPN just invested, you know, a lot
in college football, and uh, they're invested in the NFL.

(01:15:10):
You know, to me, that's that's huge still. You know,
obviously they're invested in in the NBA. They're they're they're
the number one deal out of the NBA. It's cool
that NBC's into the fold. We're gonna get more regular
season and especially playoff games on NBC but in Amazon. Right,

(01:15:32):
that's coming to for the NBA next year. But ESPN
is still the home of sports, so I would love
it if they're on there. But we'll see, we'll see.
So someone has sent me this screenshot I f L
t V Carl Frotch Eddie hern is trying to compare
my loss with andre Ward with Anthony Joshua's lost to

(01:15:55):
Daniel Dubois, which is pathetic. I lost the close points
to decision to our to be an all time great
seven to five thirteen two of the scorecards. That's a
close fight. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't compare the two
but first of all, the Dubois and Ward is fucking wild.
I think Froch is better than Anthony Joshua. Now do

(01:16:17):
I think that was a seven to five fight? Fuck? No,
I do not. You know, hell to the nah, No,
that was not that. But I back to the top
rank thing. There has been a little bit of noise
about they're gonna make their own streaming platform. Whether that's

(01:16:40):
true or not, I don't know. I think I talked
about this last time right at the end of the
show because I'm kind of getting confused because I missed
last week. But twelve events per year for the next
five years, that's TKO. That's what they And then they
say including up to four men got fights per year.

(01:17:02):
Now you know what is that true? We'll see ultimately,
but you know, it is what it is. Let's see here.
So the eighteen by eighteen, it seems like that's out

(01:17:24):
now for that fight. Uh, the Berlanga and Sakor and
do Zipeta and Shiraz Suraz, I think that's out. I
think it's gonna be twenty twenty to me, like honestly,
like smaller rings can make fights better, obviously, but as

(01:17:49):
a prospect, you don't want to fight in too many
small rings the whole time, because once you get to
that twenty twenty twenty by twenty not the year, it
gives people that like the box and the outside more room.
But when you're cutting off the ring, it is a
little funky, you know, all of a sudden when you

(01:18:10):
get you know, more more time or more you know, room, more,
more area to move. So I think there's something to
be said about fighting on club shows and if you
can sell even whatever, five hundred or a thousand tickets
in a small venue where you're from or in your area, region, whatever,

(01:18:31):
that's cool for sure, but it's also there's something to
be said even though it could be empty in Vegas
and you're the third fight, you're fighting in a twenty twenty,
so twenty twenty, so you do get used to it.
So there is something about if you're really trying to
be a championship level guy gal fighter, you should be

(01:18:53):
fighting in twenty twenty twenty by twenty rings at least
the chunk of your career just to get used to it,
especially if you're a pressure fighter. Though, someone messaged me
a while back about the KO bonus between Alvais and Crawford.
No one's getting knocked out. So but with ko bonus,

(01:19:16):
what kind of money were talking about? Because if it's
if the reports of what they're potentially making are even
halfway through, like fifty percent of it, you'd have to
put up a big ass, you know, number for that.
So I don't know, I really don't know about all that.

(01:19:41):
So Jamelle Herring had this tweet a little while back,
probably about ten days ago, about Ryan Garcia. Ryan just
can't catch a break. With Boots vacating and moving up
to fifty four, Roley is about to be elevated by
the WBA. Meanwhile, Ryan still hasn't care after the world title.
Is best shot, in my opinion, may have been one thirty,

(01:20:04):
but that slipped not about at thirty five, none at
one forty. Does he eventually win one? I don't give it.
First of all, he fucked it up when he said
catch a break. He he fucked that shit up and
the whole you know, like Boots vacating and moving up,

(01:20:26):
So he was gonna are you trying to say he
was gonna fight Boots and win that fight? Fuck no,
And Roly he lost to Roie dude, So that ain't
a bad that's not bad luck. You know. Also in
the top rank stuff, this message Lance Pugmyer someone the
screenshot at it. Bob Aaron told him that we'll probably

(01:20:49):
take off August and return with a broadcast platform in September.
So yeah, that they're you know, because they're talking about
some prospects that been on club shows and we've seen that.
We just saw that with PBC before the Amazon stuff.
So ulcough Pete says it right, Ryan can't catch a break.

(01:21:09):
Ryan chose the disrespect himself the sport of boxing and
put another fighter's tell at the risk by cheating when
he got criticized. He chose racial and religious bigotry. Yeah,
I mean, I don't feel bad for that at all
at all. Oh, by the way, Mannics cleared it up,

(01:21:31):
I guess by saying that Canelo Crawford will be at night.
And that's why I said, let's not just for sure.
You know, listen to what Oscar had to say in
that moment, I'd assume that was that was what was
gonna happen. Olexander Usik went away split with long time promoter.

(01:21:59):
Is it a scenario where you know, like Eddie Hearn said,
and we already knew before Eddie Hearn said that once
you're on a Turkey show, you're not really calling any
of the shots. You're not really promoting. You're just there
and you take your twenty percent or whatever your deal
is with your fighter from his purse. But you're not
really you know what I mean, You're not really making

(01:22:20):
any decision. You're not really promoting really me are you are?
But not not really? And so and if there's multiple
fighters with multiple promoters, you're not really promoting. You know,
of course you're you're gonna promote it, but not It's not.
My point is why give away whatever he was given
away to him? Maybe that's it. Maybe the contract was

(01:22:42):
just up and he figures, well, I got a fighter
to fuck it, you know, like why give away that
money when this this guy have had a great run
with him? But you know, like, why give him that
twenty percent when it's not even him promoting? You know,
I don't know, it is what it is. It does

(01:23:02):
suck though, when you start making crazy money and someone
invested in you that they get shafted. But did they
really get shafted?

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Though?

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
That's what I'm looking at it like, probably not because
usis made some money lately. Chain Smoking Penguin, I always
loved that. A great follow at Chain's smoke Peng Smok
Peng pe n G. I just love that Twitter handle name.

(01:23:32):
That's just funny. But the environment is so dead with
these rehot cards that it feels like an event during
the pandemic. Yes, it does. Accept They miked up the
punches then and it was like, oh, you can hear
the punches more than you used to be able to do,
so that was the cool part about it. But you
don't really hear it as much. But that's a good point.

(01:23:54):
Curtis Pek Curtis matchroom in the UK are down so
bad it's hard to even comprom comprehend. That's two fighters
they would have, Oh yeah, blah blah blah. The thing
is they're because they're talking about Roder heus you know,
like I don't know, maybe Eddie has something, you know,

(01:24:14):
up his sleeve, because he actually did, uh he did say,
you know, game change type thing. This is Adrian Delgado,
great follow Adrian d eight nine two six one thing
Canelo has in his favorite going into into the Crawford
matchup in September. His activity, it will be his third
fight in a year. He also has motivation, has showed

(01:24:36):
that weight classes are there for a reason. Physically, power
versus physical physicality and power versus speed and range. Legacy
is on the line. It's a great tweet and a
good point that is true. Canelo has been saying some Actually,
Canelo and Crawford has been saying some funny stuff. I

(01:24:57):
have noticed that I hope your uncle will Turkey pay
you enough because it's going to be your last fight. Now,
these are just quotes that people are sending to me. Now.
Canelo said that, you know, Terrence brings more to the
table than ben Avidez. But I disagree with that more.

(01:25:20):
I don't. I don't think it's more. You could say
equal or whatever, but I don't know, because you know,
the whole elite fighter thing. You haven't you haven't beaten
elite fighter, so you can't really say that, you know.
I think Spence was an elite when he was before
the plank, you know, plane crash, before the car crash.
I do think he was an elite fighter. And even

(01:25:42):
that Usik fight, he showed his worth and whatnot. But
when he fought him, you could make you could say
he wasn't you know, the same guy. That's fair, But
I do have to say, like, resumey lineal champs and
how he's done it through the divisions have been impressive. Obviously,

(01:26:03):
he's an elite fighter. Crawford's an elite fighter. But when
you say resume and this is him talking when he
brings up Ricky, Oh, Ricky Burns was an elite Terrence.
Ricky Burns was an elite dude. I'd bring up Gamboa
before I'd bring up Ricky Burns like and when you

(01:26:26):
look at like his lineal championship, you know, like when
it was one against two, creating the lineal right, that
was a damn good fight Postal I thought was a
damn good fighter. Was he elite? No, he wasn't, because
you can be quote unquote ranked second in your division

(01:26:48):
and not be elite. But it created a lineal But
if you look at the guy he got the undisputed
against that dude, you know he fell the f off
after that. So I don't know, I just I think
there's a difference between He hasn't fought able a lot
of leade fighters at all. He hasn't really fought elite fighters,

(01:27:10):
but the way he's done it and separated himself, that's
you know, that's where it's at. I also saw this
brunch boxing Turkey wants to make Lester Martinez against Christian
and Billy. Yeah please, Greg Hackett, Charleston and White look

(01:27:33):
good out there. Yeah, you know what, I gotta give him,
you know, yeah, I'll give him that. That was he
did actually look pretty good. Now here's so if Canelo
wins and I said this when I heard these names
Shiraz or Ubank Junior, like if that's his if that's

(01:27:58):
his fights next year or or you know, he fights
Shiraz if he wins, which I do think he's gonna win,
and then fights U Bank or vice versa. Dude, those
are not Give us Benavidez. For Christ's sakes, you know,
give us Benavidez. That's what we want. Not not that shit,
not that ship at all. Uh boxing Wave dude is

(01:28:24):
a two division four belt undisputed champion. He also he's
also a four division champ. But dude is a two
division four belt undisputed Okay, so he could have just said,
you know, two time undisputed he also is a four
division champion. If that's a bad resume, I don't know

(01:28:47):
what is a good one. Well, you can't just string
off the belts and be like, oh, you know, you
just can't string off the belts and be like, dude,
I want all these fucking belts though, bro, you know,
because that doesn't you know, like I said, go look
at one of those lineal champions where that dude is also.

(01:29:08):
I saw this that Jose Benavitez Junior tested positive for cocaine.
Saw that a handful of days ago. We'll see what that.
We'll see what that ultimately means. Muh oh Turkey from

(01:29:30):
a tweet, I will be very upset if Berlanga and
zapot On knockout Sharaz and Shakur. We have big plans
for Sharaz and Shaqur. This result would be a complete disaster.
So you know, Turkey may not like promoters and like
to talk to the boxers when he's doing deals and managers,

(01:29:52):
and I respect that, I do give him. I do
like the fighter and the manager to get or at
least the fighter for sure, then the manager of course
to get involved, and then they can take that stuff
back to the promoter. But like he's that's a promoter statement,
right there, dude. I mean, come on, Paul Magno Boxing Tribune.

(01:30:15):
It's sad how many good honest writers slash journalists who
love boxing deeply have abandon in the idea of writing
about the sport because good honest writing journalism has such
a hard time finding a home. We could we could
have everything we want in boxing if we had a
strong media. I I don't agree with that last sentence everything,

(01:30:39):
but I do think, you know, I do think that
there is, you know, something to be said about what
he said obviously. I mean, I've been talking about the
media for quite some time. Jim Cross, Jim Cross boxing
good Twitter handled there or a bio is one of
the best kept secrets in boxing. This kid is so so,

(01:31:02):
so fucking good. Yeah, man, that dude. I like him.
I do like him. I was listening to the Saturday
show of Brunch Boxing and Matt quote tweeted Turkey wants
to make about between Virtual Artis and John Ennis for November.

(01:31:22):
Is this a realistic possibility? Well, Ennis could fight here soon,
which it sounds like he may get a fight at
fifty four, so maybe he gets a fight in and
then fights in November. I don't know, or does he
just say screw it? I'm going right to that. That's
a good question though. Another one he posed during the show,

(01:31:42):
Keishan Davis apologized to his supporters, says the truth will
be revealed. All is all forgiven. The apologies is like, eh,
I'm good. You know what I mean? Like it is
what it is, Jim Cross again, remember when Dezonne was
selling us that Payerrey was dead. There are three pay
views on his own within three weeks. I get it

(01:32:04):
for the big fights, but they're even charging for Moses
in White exactly, dude, Like Moses has a lot of potential.
White as a gatekeeper is a good opponent. It's it's
a fine opponent being on you know, not as expensive
you know, pay per view in the UK. Okay whatever.

(01:32:27):
I don't think that's a great way to do it
in the UK even, but you're gonna make it here
in the US. Like, dude, I don't think that should
be on pay per view in general? Has it only
been one that was non pay per view? That's true, right,
it was the zero Has it only been so since
Turkey's been here and Sadi has you know, entered the business.

(01:32:51):
It's been is that true? It's only been one non
pay per view, like Moses has potential. But if you
do them on pay per view in the ain't I
bene of your pay per views? Against him against White?
It's just it's just you gotta let him grow. You
gotta let him grow. I did overhear some folks not

(01:33:15):
over here. No, actually I did over here in his face.
But I also saw it that Shelley Finkel says that
uh Wilder has a fight in the fall in South Korea.
So if that actually you know, works out, then he's

(01:33:37):
gonna fight. Then that's the plan, and then try to
fight aj Or a big fight in twenty twenty six,
you know, taking one more fight. You know, it is
what it is. Um So this is a screen shot.
So I don't know who the Twitter analy is. I
don't have a dog in the race because I I
countless negative I have I think he man countless negative

(01:33:59):
thoughts of Canelo Crawford. But whenever people start to downplay
Terrence Crawford's resume, it tells me they actually don't know
anything about the career. It tells me you know nothing
about boxing. The thing is, it's like.

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
How he.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
Too the god. It's so frustrating, Like the dude doesn't
have a great resume. Man, it's pretty fucking obvious. But
that that's just reality. We've been talking a lot about
reality because boxing Twitter sometimes is not reality. Fandom and

(01:34:36):
fan boy can be outside of reality. It's it's it's
easy to say that the guy like Kalzaggi is a
damn good fighter. I'm not trying to I think Crawford's
better than Kalzaggi, but he just didn't find a lot
of names. And then the two guys he fought late

(01:34:56):
or well, Kessler, you know, he fought some good fight.
I'm not trying to say that, but like he can't
get credit for the Roy Jones Junior the full credit
and even be Hop was pasted. It now be Hop
at least, you know, fart more past that. But like
it is what it is, dude, you know, it just
is what it is. It's not a good resume. It's

(01:35:17):
not I should say that it's not an elite resume.
If the dude is saying Ricky Burns and talking about elite,
that sums it up. Dude, that has nothing to do
how fucking good he is though, because the dude is
fucking elite and he's literally one of the best of
his era. It just hands down, you know, hands down

(01:35:42):
Adrian Delgado giving his take one Norman Hainy HAINI will
have to be perfect in this fight, yep. I can
see him being ahead on the scorecards and then being
taken out midway or late against the explosive puncher in Norman. Nevertheless,
an intriguing matchup. Well said, which that's usually Adrian. But yeah,
that's exactly what I think, man, That's why I love it.

(01:36:06):
Ummm yeah, it's just it's just weird. Virgil artist Junior
Jake Paul is scamming the entire world with his circus,
selling them as the real fights, but the entire world
continues to eat it up, eat it all up, and
then have the nerve to be disappointed because of the

(01:36:26):
circus fights they pay to watch aren't real fights. Now
he has a point. I don't think this is a
circus fight, but clearly chovi Is is so pastard, so
he's in gatekeeper mode like crazy, and it's just barely
gatekeeper mode, right, but like he's doing what he's doing.

(01:36:52):
It is what it is. But when he says he's scamming,
he's just like he is single handedly destroying the sport.
Like that's you're so lost. And I get it you're
biased because you're a boxer, but dude, come on, dude,
come on single handedly? What how can he single handle

(01:37:16):
He's destroying the sport. That's just weak. So Ring Magazine,
as we know, since Turkey took it over, like it
wasn't great before. It was better than it is now though,
but it wasn't I had plenty to say about it then.
But it wasn't that bad. It really wasn't. But it
wasn't great, right, but they fucking ran that. They said

(01:37:40):
Jake Paul announced the Honda Center record uh you know,
announced the record gate at boxing and then then they say,
oh that they were they were slashed. The ticket tickets
were slashed at ten dollars other tickets, other tickets reduced
up to seventy percent if that. But like Ring and

(01:38:04):
Saudi Arabia Turkey, they don't have much to say about tickets. Dude.
You know we know that. You you can tell by
how the ticket breakdown was that Turkey like that, I
think it was six point something over six million gate
in the LA one with Crawford. He bought those tickets, dude,

(01:38:25):
he made the gate bigger. You could see. And by
the way, I mentioned that when Manny and Floyd and
other Oscar and other stars would buy a million dollars,
Like if you're close to a let's say you're the eleventh,
you're in eleventh place of live gate revenue in Las

(01:38:46):
Vegas history.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Well why don't you just move the tenth you know, like,
buy a million, give them to your friends, give them
the celebrities, whatever, like that's that's that's how that happens.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
But you could tell he he boosted that gate. So
when you have a quote unquote ring magazine purposely downing
a fighter in what they do, but then you know
a lot of their fights like dead as fuck some
of them, even when they're in the US, but especially

(01:39:16):
the ones society. But it's like, okay, if you're gonna
do that, if you're gonna add context to a gate record,
but look at what this is. Okay, cool, why don't
you add context to your own fucking shit? Though? You
know what I mean, that's the problem, and there isn't
context so you're just it's just propaganda now. So it's

(01:39:38):
just it's just fucking ridiculous. That's it is what it is.
Uh Naji said Kid Austin Abdula. Mason just got a
lot more interesting. Yeah, that's that's a ways off, but
you know, it is what it is. Ryan Garcia Oscar
de la Hoya back at it. Unfortunately, Ryan Garcia is

(01:39:59):
having another episode. Ten days ago, he was talking about
God and finding his path. Then tonight he sends me
this rant while watching his fellow gold Boy fighters win.
Bipolar disorder is very serious and I hope he gets help. Basically,
he says, first of all, fuck you, especially you for
the one disrespecting me with the shitty contract because I lost,

(01:40:22):
but I'm actually your only current star fighter. You could
suck it, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I'll beat
Rollie's ass and whoever you can kiss my ass, I'll
beat Rollie's ass and whoever. I can't wait till I
go against you again like I did with d'Arte and
do to see your stupid ass face looking okay out,

(01:40:48):
I don't know. Berlanga said he was gonna slap up Oscar,
and Oscar was puffing on one of those and he said, hey, man,
I'll be there, so let's do it anyway. And then
here's another thing. Ring Magazine July is right on the corner.
It's looking stacked. Okay. Cool. So you're gonna name events

(01:41:09):
that are on Netflix, on Amazon, pay per view, on ESPN,
Like you're gonna name events that aren't you cool? Okay,
you're just talking about a stacked July. Cool? But why
but then Ring three live on the Zone. Actually it's
not live on his zone. It's live on pay per view.

(01:41:31):
And you should check the ticket sales there on that
one before you go talking about ticket sales. But uh,
Kenneth KB, he's like, what the fuck is July ninth
on Vegas doing on here? Like you don't sell tickets, say, man,
July stacked, and you you have, you know, you have

(01:41:51):
all these fights, some of them on your shit, some
of them not h you know whatever, most say, I'm
looking at the list, most of them aren't actually, and
then you're like, hey, we got tickets. It kind of
it's just misleading. It's like saying the ship's live on
his own. No, it's on pay per view, own pay
per view. That's what it's on. That's what it's on, dude,

(01:42:16):
So don't don't go fucking around like that. Ezra brunch
Boxing shouts out to him. Jake Paul already won per
his original goal. This isn't up for debate. He is
a much better boxer than anyone besides him ever thought
he'd be. He is one of the biggest name in
the sport. He has a legitimate promotional company working with

(01:42:36):
pretty much every major network. If he gets put to
sleep but a but a higher lever box boxer, which
he never would, he already proved everyone wrong. I think
that's I think that's a fair, fair statement, and he
does deserve credit for his promotional company. He just does.

(01:42:59):
In a livestream, LaMonte Roach.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
Said that after its tank rematch, he's gonna get the
winner of Hanian in Norman Junior.

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
Uh Berlanga. I'm looking at Chiraz like Canelo and Oscar said,
So you won't win one round. Yeah, that's kind of funny. Yeah,
I've heard all this stuff about the November card, whether
it's you know, maybe they get nsrt's or if Moses
come through Bakoli. I guess Andy Kruz and zippot. I've

(01:43:36):
heard a couple other ones, but it does look like
a good a good card. I will say that looks
like a good card. But we'll see. We got to
see it right now. I saw some live odds Brian
Norman Junior plus on FanDuel plus one twelve, and anytime
I hear one twelve, I just want to sing one.

(01:44:00):
All right, I'll stop. I think I think that's about it. Um, yeah,
I think that's about it anyway. Like I said, thanks
for working with me during this schedule. Thanks for still listening.

(01:44:24):
I know that I've been not coming through on Tuesdays,
you know, like I said, like it's in the way,
all that YadA YadA stuff. Let's hope that we get
a fight that kind of overachieves this weekend, right, We're
gonna need it. Hopefully that caterall you bank is is
a good fight. Derevin Chenko actually does return h this weekend.

(01:44:53):
There is some other fighters on that card that is
Triller if you still have Triller TV plus God Blessed
his Own has a card actually Wednesday and Saturday, but
then we have a really fun like a Friday and
a Saturday. That's about the pop off like July is

(01:45:16):
way better. July is gonna be damn good. So I'm
really looking forward to that. Yeah, like I said, let's
hope we get a competitive fight in that main event.
Uh so we have something to dig into, dig our
teeth into on the recap. But yeah, I'm really looking

(01:45:38):
forward to the weekend after. I do wish that ring
card would be just on his own, which still isn't
enough reach. But ship, I mean, well, he see here
it is. Why don't you do a time by with ESPN?

(01:46:03):
I know that you're invested, like into his own what
have they got ten percent or whatever? I can't remember
what they bought into, but Turkey, ESPN doesn't doesn't have
a current deal right now. Once you just buy into it,
just do a fucking time by. Who gives a shit.
You're not making money anyway. At least you get way
more exposure. But yeah, that's the thing, like, uh, I

(01:46:30):
don't know that that that does irritate me, because that's
a great it's a it is a solid, very solid card.
I like it a lot. I just don't think it
should be pay per view. And at some point when
you have three straight pay per views, you know they
had three in a week's time in May, remember or yeah,

(01:46:55):
in May or was it late April May? Whatever it was.
It was a view and then a paper Friday and Saturday.
Like you can bundle all the shit. I know, there's
a two. You pay ninety bucks or whatever for for
two out of the three. It's just the whole point
is you're shrinking the audience and you're not cashing in
on it though, and you're trying to build these fighters up,

(01:47:18):
but you're building it on pay per view, and you
can only do that so much. And if you have
a big you know, like if you have a big
name and you know it's going to be three hundred thousand,
five hundred thousand, seven hundred thousand buys and then you're
building the undercrofd fighters off of that, that's different, you know.
But maybe you know, maybe that Crawford and Canelo Netflix

(01:47:42):
can he can you know, turn that into a deal.
Maybe that's what you know he's lining up for. That'd
be great, but I don't know, we'll see. Anyway, I'm
gonna get out of here, enjoy the fights, Enjoy the holiday.
For the folks in the States,

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