June 23, 2025 • 54 mins
This Episode of the NBA Playoff Banter Podcast Features Recap of Game 6 & 7! -Will OKC Repeat? -SGA & Company Proved Their Worth! -SGA MVP! -Haliburton Injury Looms Large! -EAST is Wide Open Next Year! -Kevin Durant & Bane Trade Talk & More! Listen to the NBA PLAYOFFS BANTER PODCAST Covering Free Agency/Trades in the coming weeks! Available under The ROPE A DOPE RADIO Podcast on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Amazon Music, Spreaker, Google Podcast, & More! Follow on Twitter @RopeADopeRadio
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
NBA basketball fans, Welcome back to the NBA Playoff Banter Podcast.
He's Marshall, I'm Chris, and we're here to recap what
was a great series that obviously we didn't get an
amazing fourth quarter obviously as well, seeing Halliburton hit three
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threes early and then go down, you could really kind
of just tell when it happened, like, man, he is
down down, So you got a feel for him not
just trying to win the game, but also next year,
you know, the East, it's it's a mess. Next year, man,
it is a it is a just a mess with
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the injuries, obviously. So we are going to break down
a little bit of Game six. Obviously, you know, I've
said obviously a lot here. It got out of hand
fairly quickly. We'll talk a fair amount about Game seven.
Then we'll give our thoughts on the Kevin Durant trade
that is now well, I guess you can't say it's
(01:06):
one hundred official because it doesn't become official till like
July sixth, but they do have that. You know, we
have the draft coming up, and what we were thinking is,
well we'll kind of see what Yiannis does and see
what happens. We probably won't do a free agency show
too early. We'll probably do it later in the summer.
If Yannis is able, you know, it does get traded,
(01:30):
then we'll have an emergency type podcast. But overall, we're
just gonna kinda kind of judge how the market goes,
because you know, it's not like a wind and dining
these free agents type offseason like it normally is. I
think it's Brooklyn that has real money that they could
sign somebody, but a lot of these have to be
signed in trades, so we're probably not gonna go too deep.
(01:51):
We kind of know who's getting picked first and second.
All of the second there has been a little little
funkiness there, but I still think he'll go second. But yeah,
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(03:12):
co host Marshall. How are you doing, sir, Hope everybody's
everything's going on?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Are good?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Obviously we we didn't get to uh hang out too much,
but you were back in the in the motherland of Minnesota.
And I'll tell you what, dude, it was pretty hot
this this weekend. It was like ninety six, which is
hot for us.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
But how you doing, my friend, Yeah, we had just
uh has a bad time, but uh not too bad, man.
I can get sleeped out because NBA playoffs are over,
NHL playoffs are over. It's a I know the British Open,
which I love watching. That's an early morning all the
couch deal, so I can catch up on the sleep
and reduce by blood pressure and stress level. I did
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have the Warriors mane deeper, but the Oilers took out
maybe probably a couple of weeks out of my life.
But yeah, but hey we're I'm okay, and uh, you know,
for just looking back on it now, we got a
really good finals. Uh yeah, I know that at the
at the start of the mainstream media is like, ah,
(04:18):
it's okay, see it's Indiana. Like yeah, but even if
you're a middle like middle of the road sports fan,
or even like a low level basketball fan, like if
you didn't like the series, like I would love to
hear why, because that that was it went seven. Uh
there was highs, there was lows. Uh, there wasn't I
would say any like bad blood. There wasn't like crazy
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drama of the court. But it was just like good basketball.
And if you don't like that, I think you're you're
you're nitpicking or maybe that they maybe they beat a
team that's your teams. I mean, that's why. But as
just a irrational basketball fan, Chris there really wasn't much
to bitch about it. It was just a fun series. And uh,
I never really thought about this, but that Chris Vernon,
(05:01):
who has listened to the guy from Memphis man a
good point. Yeah, he's like, I think there's something be
said for uh, middle market to lower market home base,
home court fan and the whole court. Look, because I
thought about it. He makes you point is about how
the if you like for the New York Knicks h
where played, I think to get a Knicks ticket when
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it was nix Pacers, to get like upper level seats,
it was like sixty seven hundred dollars to get in
the door.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And as the series go on it dranks more too. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
And but then for okay See in Indiana, you're like, God,
these fan base are great. You don't now, I'm sure
the prices go high, but you don't get the the
okay See and Pacer fans. You get the fans who
pretty much been there all year. Now, yes, it's gonna
go up somebody, but you're not gonna price You're not
gonna price out a blue collar fail like you and
I would be if we want to go, you could
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still afford it, sir, there's somebody said for like, I
think there's that kind of like huh, Like you're not
gonna make a Pacers fan pay seven hundred dollars for
doles leave. You're gonna have Pacers fans who were maybe
have take a little boy of the paycheck. But that
just that point is like shit, that's kind of right,
Like you aren't gonna have the rout your fan basis
because you're not price Scholengium as much as you can to.
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That just leads to a better environment, which we definitely had.
Like I know, you can't really tell unless you're there,
but when you heard like the defensive chants from both
stadium fans in the series, it was loud, and I
think that's just fun for basketball too. I'm not gonna
say it's Oracle, and I think Oracle truly was blue collar.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
You can tell from Oakland to San Francisco totally different,
you know, which.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Completely priced off the Oakland fans. How you have this
ree which is the safe So I just hit me,
I'm like, you know that makes sense and good for
those fan bases because you know it is where you
gets small markets, but an overall fans, players coaches it
was a pretty good series.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
It was very good, and obviously you gotta put standard
of living in how much you make, you know, per
per year into those you know, the city rents higher,
but you're making more money. So but yeah, that is
a good point. And there are a lot more middle markets,
mid sized markets than people think, Minneapolis being one of those.
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It was kind of funky though that you know, if
you put if you just go NBA TV market, if
you put them together, it was still the fourteenth ring market,
you know, so that is pretty low. Although Indiana actually
isn't as low as you think for overall TV sports
market because they have the Colts and you know they're
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they have the pay or not the Pacers, but the Hoosiers. Yeah,
that gets going. But overall they're not as low as
you think. I think they're in the thirties. But but
obviously Oklahoma City they're really low. So we knew that
it was going to be a rating struggle. But overall,
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I guess said, it was good basketball and it is
kind of funny, and that's why it's a lot of
just casual fans. You know, they always talk about, oh,
the conspiracies for the big market and It's like, Man,
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Has been fucking that up for a while.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Then if there's a conspiracy, because they would have taken
the Nick we talked about the Nicks and the Timberwolves,
that would have.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Popped the fuck off, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Soyeh all, these conspiracies only work when it finally kind
of coordinates after. You know, if you throw ten ideas
against the wall, one stick, see it's a conspiracy. What
about those other nine fucking things you're talking about? You know,
it's kind of like the Dallas thing. How they said
they're gonna move them to Vegas. That's why they allowed
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this trade to go. They weren't saying they're gonna get
the first pick. Now if they no one said that, right, Marshall,
No one said that. So if they would have said
they get the first pick, then at least your conspiracy
lines up. Meanwhile, they're not gonna They're not gonna move Dallas,
a large market out of out of the NBA. It
makes no fucking sense.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
You know.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Well, I've I've heard that the older the odor of
the olds Vegas, this MAVs out is a huge like
Casito person, And that's why you want to go to Vegas.
So that actually sounds legible, Like it's like that woman,
if she can't get a casino Dallas, she would move
them to Vegas. That could be possible. But that's not
a conspiracy. That's just a with her background, that could
(09:24):
be possible. I'm not saying it's likely, but that sounds
like a logical down the road idea. If Dallas could
get casito like that, that's not like a conspiracy. That's
just with her background and wanted to have a casito
and Dallas being anti gably like that, that could logistically happen.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I got news for it. They're not moving now the
Dallas Mavericks out of Dallas. Probably not, Yeah, because they're
about to announce Vegas and Seattle as the new teams.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah, which can't sol there'd be no new team.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
It wouldn't be a new they would say, hey, Dallas
is moving to Vegas. That's what it would be new team.
There wouldn't be they wouldn't. That's not adding a team.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
That's maybe Dallas gets the casito or take way everything
else their state. Why not add something for.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
I'll stop on that, yeah, because then we're going to
get in the guns and all this stuff, and you know,
but anyway, yeah, I just think, uh, good ball is
good ball, and and and people that watch it, like,
you can't look at It's like boxing, do you can't
look at casual fans, Like casual fans are always going
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to be casual fans, you know, after a while, you know,
Golden State obviously, when it's your squad, that's different.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
But after a while you do get sick of the
same team's winning, right But the casual fans someone will
even say it, but clearly the ratings tell you that
they're not sick of it, you know, because you know,
and I do think that ultimately this seven year run
creates a lot because some of those teams still exist
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to an extent anyway, and I do think those will
make for good either opponents for a name team, a
big market team, you know, to say, oh, this is
if the Knicks make it next year, Oklahoma City's going
for their second repeat.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
You know, then all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That because these are still highly rated games that a
lot of casual see, even if they're low ratings, you know,
still ten million people seeing it, you know, So I
think that that is kind of interesting to I think
ultimately it could Liken Aunt Edwards like him going against
these quality opponents, you know, does add up to help
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turn the page in the coming years.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
But if you look at Okay, see they.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Have everyone under contract next year and we know the
picks that they have, So if any team can keep
it at least for one to two years, they definitely have.
You know, now someone's gonna get paid in probably too much,
and maybe they'd make a trade at some point, but
they barring injury, which we'll get into, it feels like
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they have the best shot. But you could say the
same thing about Boston last year. They had a deep team,
no one was gonna beat them, and it looked like
they're done.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Now they didn't make it this year and they're done.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
You know, they're not gonna win the team next year,
so you never really know how that goes. Real quick,
back to game six, real quick from Thursday, when it
was like ten to two or twelve to two. I
was like, oh boy, that's a great start for OKAC, Like,
holy shit, that was quick. You know, a lot of
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these games have kind of you know, slowly got going.
They've been actually low scoring for the first six minutes.
A lot of them, you know, and I was thinking, shit, dude,
like that was that was a quick little lead. But
then and.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Nate Smith had two falls pretty early.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
But then the Pacers, you know, make a couple of
runs and you know, they they they get back that
they they get into the game real quick.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Like like like it was nothing.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
They started out, oh of eight from the field, and
then the next thing, you know, they were eight of
ten from the field. And in that first quarter, okay,
see had five turnovers, topping was going off. There was
another seven zero run and overall they ended up getting
their largest lead of the series, and it was a
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seventeen to two run over a five minute stretch that
made it fifty one to thirty five. And you know,
there really wasn't much else to comment about that.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
You know, they just they took it.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
They took it away, and it was it was a
wide variety once again, the Pacers, a wide variety of
folks chipping in. You know, Siakam had like eighteen and
sixteen TJ like people were, you know, people were going
nuts like a variety of ways. And Halliburton was like
kind of looking kind of stiff and looking hurt. In
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the first part of the game six, and then you
saw him warming up and they didn't even have need
to have a lot of their starters down the stretch
of that game. So, you know, coming off that game, Marshall,
were what were what was your minds that? I mean,
obviously you're happy as a game seven, but what were
going into this thing? Were you like, now all of
(14:43):
a sudden? My point is all the pressure was all
of a sudden on ok See and they hadn't been
shooting well at all from three you know, and I'm thinking, dude.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I didn't I didn't put any money on the game.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Okay, I'll admit that, but I kind of was leave
leaning Indiana going into that game by the time we
got to game seven, even though both of us you know,
ultimately picked the okay See originally. But what are your
thoughts coming out of that game where once again it
was like a blowout and there'd only been two games
(15:16):
where they were really just like that. You know, what
were your thoughts though heading in to you know, last
night's game. Uh.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I think to summarize the best I can ever think
about this is that this okay See team had a
they were an elite regular season team but not an
elite playoff team, Like I will put them up there
on a level with like some of my Golden State
teams are, like, I don't eat what Lebron did. Like,
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this team was a very very highly talented regular season team.
But if they want to remember as one of the
better ones, like the one of the better ones wins
that game six, like and I was, I honestly was surprised.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Then probably don't lose game one either.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
True and to see so I was actually at a
play flight hole that day and I turned on it
was like thirty two to thirty three, and I was like, oh, okay, okay,
see just hang in there.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Then they went on a thirty to nine run and
again tip of the cap. Okay, see what this title?
But like the regular season doesn't match their portfolio of
the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
So the analytics people need to calm them down a
little bit on this team, is what you're saying. Yeah,
or even just after rankings, analytically we've heard such stuff
about them.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Well, it's like I hear you. However, you know.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Well, and I and I do think it goes to
show because there's always been that theory of like you know, uh,
you gotta you gotta be a bore an older team.
They're they're they're a young team by age rubbers, and
like again they they got a ring. There's nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Right, second youngest team to win one. Yeah, in the
finals or something.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
But yeah, I just there's a couple of where it's like, damn,
like they're they're hanging in there, because analytically, the Pacers
really had no business hay with them in the whole
series if you look from a number standpoint. Yeah, but
again it's a super.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Large underdog at the beginning.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
If we talked about this, takers out of the road.
I honestly I think I'll remember the Pacers more than Okay, see,
just because of like they really were a rarity. I
I heard they're the first ever team I know they
didn't win it, but to take it to seven, Okay,
there were not a single player average twenty points per
game of the series. Like I know, I'm saying, if
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the Pacers had won, they've been the first ever NBA
team since ninety two to not have or ninety three
when they or in the mid nineties when they started
keeping the stat but player did not because obviously Jordan's
but since he didn't average twenty, no, just under, he
had like nineteen.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Points playoffs, not for this series.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Okay, it's obviously really close. But yeah, like they were,
and honestly they had the better coach. But look, I
just think that's a tip of the captain at the
end of that night to come out a little bit slow.
But they put her on because I really did think,
oh and we said the last show, Albert's is banked up. Dude,
okay See, he's got it right, Like I really, Okay,
obviously they're gonna they're gonna put a fight, but you're
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the better team and you should be able to take
care of business. I was really surprised with how dubbed
it they looked, and then they kind of just bought
the gas because going into halftime when it was like
seventy to forty two, I believe it's like okay, like, dude,
all right, we're going back to game seven. So I
was very surprised with that outcome. I really thought, okay
See would have finished it, but it's just growing pains
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her going through as a team, So that definitely surprised me.
I did bet okay See first half a Game six
and Game seven, so screw them for sure. Yeah, I
last night was anyways, but uh yeah, I just a
tip of the cap to the Pacers, and I truly
think that again, I'm gonna be talking about the guys
have lost. But what Carlisle did for that matchupble stress
(19:04):
because clearly, okay, See has the better players, like from
a higher level standpoint, but yeah, but they they talked
about and I don't know like exzuls this, but I
heard like ESPN about how they found a different way
to attack Sga on his perimeter defensive like defensively, and
it really took about his element. It's like dude who
(19:24):
comes up like the dude's been doing it all year,
So I just thought.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
That he's still points.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
So yeah, but I LM and he got but I
know what you're saying, Yeah that's all that counts.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Carlisle did a great job. But obviously
Daniel Dagnoll's got a trophy dow too, So I'm just
kind of torn. Like normally, I feel they when a
team wins a championship, it's like, oh, we're gonna talk
about that, which we are, but this is just such
a uh a crazy story for the team that got
second place, like it really was a true team, which
(19:57):
you were almost literally never see that. That's the part
that's kind of stuck in my head more so than okay,
see what read like, yes they deserve pret the were
the best team. SGA carried their masters in the first
half last night, but it's like, yeah, the Pacers. I
don't think we'll see a team like the Pacers in
the finals again quite a while. Just for of the
hodgepodg wait all tied together, I think the spyway to view.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
It well, and how they got there, you know, like, yeah, series,
they had to do some crazy shit, you know, And
and you're right, like as much as we could say, oh,
Haliburton Game one or Haliburton against the Knicks or you know,
that is true, but we always stated but it was
these two dudes that got him to that point and
(20:39):
then he took them home.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
And so you're right, they needed everybody and it was
up in the air. You could probably say about three
guys were up in the air for MVP. If Indiana
I thought it can't would it came down to game seven?
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, And this is me who had a Halliburton bet
on the MVP plus nineteen or nine death. So he
tells you how much of an underdog they were when
Halliburton was a plus nine to ten for MVP.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I mean, yes, I had to make that.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Bet and SGA by six before the series started.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Had to make it, you know, because it was like
why not you know, don't get me wrong. When he
hit those three threes, He's like, oh shit, this is
gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, But but.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I'm the type that I don't put enough money down
to where I'm right when Halliburton goes.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Down, I'm thinking of him. You know, I'm not out
there on Twitter like my.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
God, a pushy well you go down, and you know
all that shit, Like I don't I worry about my bet.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
You want to you play bets, you want to win
him obviously.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yes, I never put down enough money to where it
ruins the whole fucking game for me.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
You know that type of thing. Yeah, yeah, And I
just felt so bad for Haliburton when you when he
went down, and and honestly, like.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
We knew, you know, generally game sevens, especially in the finals,
but game sevens can be a rock fight.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
That's usually what they are.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
You used to each other so many games now, and
it was a rock fight, you know, the first chunk
of pretty much whole game until they got it going.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
But you know, Indiana, the ball movement.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
In the first half compared to the second half clearly
was an issue.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
But that's I think that's where Haliburton comes in. Yeah, people,
look when we talk.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
About you know, analytics, and well he's only averaging nineteen points.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Bro, Yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
But you see how he got off the ball quick
and now it's boom boom boom, and you know, and
then he's more open when he gets the ball back.
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, we saw that, you know, so.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
You know, you never know what happens obviously, but the
way even okay, so it's it's basically pretty much tied
that half. It's close, right, and they kind of they
hung with him when Haliburton went off right away, they
go in the locker room, come out in the third
quarter's like okay, okay, see he's gonna make a little run.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
But then Indiana came back, make a little run, came back,
make it.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
And then finally those runs in the comebacks started to
become you know a little wider, and then pretty sure,
and it's seven and nine. Oh we're double digits. Oh
it's the largest, you know. And then it was like, okay, dude,
this is And in the fourth quarter they got it
to twenty.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Credit to Indiana. They did. They were they were trying, dude.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
You know, a couple of them had bad games, some
of them were playing awesome.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
They they cut it to ten two separate times.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
You know, if Halliburton's out there, we you know, with
five minutes left, we may have a different mentality of
what's gonna happen. Then it is. It is gonna go
down on you just never know what would have happened
either way.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I'm not gonna be one of those people that just
given the end of the game either though, you know
what I mean, I don't like that either because it's like.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
But it didn't come down to two points, you know.
So it did suck that Haliburn got hurt. It did
take a little bit out of it. But you know,
we knew back to those TV ratings, we knew this
was going to be a low one. However, it averaged
sixteen million and peaked at nineteen point three, making it
(24:19):
the largest finals game rating since the Toronto Golden State
Serious Sins twenty nineteen. And that's with a game that
was out of hand in the fourth quarter, especially to
a casual fan, you know, casual fantasies.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Twenty they're probably out, you know.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
So just to.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Matche, I mean, honestly, if Haliburn was in there and
it was closer, you never know, it could have it
could have spiked more.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
But overall, that will.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Allow the first six games not to go away ratings wise,
but it won't hurt the overall playoff rate. Now, the
overall playoff ratings are up now from last year, no
matter how bad the finals ratings were, because of this booster.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
You know, yeah, it's kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
It was a great series, and I agree with you
about what you said. As long as okay See doesn't
win one next year. If they win next year, then
I think that Indiana team, man, that'll be cool.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
It'll be a great story. It'll really remind me.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Of if oka See let's say wins three out of
the next five years or something like that.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Let's just say or two.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I should say two out of the next four, so
i'd be three out of five I'm not going to talk.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
About three beats and shit like that. It's just so rare.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
But it'll kind of remind me of that Indiana team
that pushed Jordan and them deep to Game seven, were
up three to two. You know, that's kind of what
it reminds me of, or.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Different. They didn't get to be in the finals.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
But.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
You know, the Malice and the Palace Us. The Pacers
had the best team that year. You know, most people
think if they're healthy, they're winning the chip.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
But obviously, you know, when you got a guy.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Suspended for sixty games or whatever, and O'Neil said, you know,
it just fell apart on him. But overall, it really
will come down to next year how much that Indiana
team I.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Think will be remembered.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
But I think for the hardcore fans, you just can't
good luck trying to win four game winners or you know,
each series you have a game winner. Yeah, luck to you,
you know, and lucky if you can find one that
bounces around and they go, you know, like they's just so.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
The odds of that Milwaukee game. For them to lose
that game is just like what you know, like what's
going on? You know, so You're right about the Pacers,
squad man.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
They were fun and okay, see, you know the home
team coming into it fifteen and four at home.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
In game sevens you know, it just.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Wasn't gonna be their night. You never know what the hell, Burton,
but I gotta give them credit. They kept fighting like
the Pacer team that we know they are. You know.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
The only kind of like one takeway I heard from
like different shows that hell he recognized myself last night
was like that first half. Okay, see, like sometimes makes
you wonder like they need a point guard. Like they
were four for twenty on threes in the first half,
and there are so many times this came down to
jack threes, but they're not a good three point shooting team,
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like I really like, I mean, I give India had
a credit for hitting there in the first half last night,
keeping it close, but like I think that was really
word to do so Indiana or Okay, so you said, hey, Dorts,
open chuck of three. Hey Chet's open chugg of three,
like you're trying to win game seven at home and yeah,
and that's the thing I've heard is that like Dagg know, well,
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like sometimes like the only times everyone set plays is
when they have a time out. I just I wonder
and again, this this is a scary part. Just to flip.
What I'm saying is like, if they do get a
point guard or they have more of a constructive offense,
how good can they be? Holy shit? It's a quick then.
But there really was like there was no It almost
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felt like the way okay, see played the first half.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
They those were wide open shots too. Yeah, it's like
you can have them because you're not going to hit them.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Yeah. It was almost just like they felt like they
were just kind of playing like willy nilly, like, oh,
I'm man in jack three, you jack three, uster three one,
you're four for twenty. It's like damn and they and
then the pacers one of the first half. So yeah,
if you're in the end, you're like, okay, yeah, I
just I really the third quarter came.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
And they start hitting those threes a little bit.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yeah, and they get a little swaggled, which is true.
Yeah obviously half Yeah, and that the ball pressure was
a law. I will say, Uh, offensively, they do make
you shake your read. But defensively, yeah, they're they They're
one of the better defense I've seen a lot in
my NBA fandom as a fan, as a whole team,
they are maybe not quite there yet, but defensive wise,
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that was an impressive architect what they did the whole year.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
So I will get really rebounded from a poor series
in that game too.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
He played pretty game.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
So, I mean, obviously, if if Halbert stays healthy, Hudo,
maybe maybe the Patrin who you know, it's a Hoodos part,
but that but that is the one that's like the
father time the injury. But like almost every year for
the past ten years, next time we do a Strow repeat,
it is an injury has almost indicated so dramatically for
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the past years.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Who with the star fucking injuries you know, I don't.
It's not just here and there.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
You know, it's the guy you know, yeah, multiple guys.
It seems like for the past couple of years, it's like,
you know, the high profile. Yes, yeah, so obviously sometimes
it hurts you, sometimes it helps you. Uh yeah, now again,
SGA still could easily won that game for his boys,
for sure, But Halibert, I I don't. I don't think
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that game ever gets to a twenty point spread, probably right, Yeah, So,
but if you're an Okay, see fan to flip my
script for a moment here of positivity.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Hey, don't go to walking too much here, because you know,
I see a yellow real quick.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Uh okay, yeah, I just uh, they're super young, Like
I know that that Jalen Williams dropped a forty piece
and then he was a minus forty, which I don't
know if that's ever happened in NBA history to go
drop forty to b a mis forty. But yeah, so
you can't say, like and like door, why you shoot
these trees with the rainball, Like the ball leaves the
(30:34):
screen like chet, some high and lows like yeah, if
they do keep this core together, I do think then
you could have this chat down the road of hey,
maybe this is a game where they do not loose
the timberwles by like forty two points, or Memphis doesn't
run them out the gym with John bus Berg is hurt.
So I think the potential is there to close.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Out game six?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
You know, yeah, could I could I down the road?
I hope we were doing this podcast over five six years. Hey,
look at how this team's progress. They're not there yet,
but you do have an extraordinarily young team which Pranke's
plays west of those series with longer and that if
they do keep three to four guys together, you know whatever,
then you could see like four to five years like
oh ship, Like dude, this team is now scary. That's
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that baturation which we could see, which would be bad
for a lot of the teams. I like the teams
you like that. That could be an oh like damn,
like you guys got a ring that maybe not your
obviously your highest level of peaking team energy. Yet so
their their potentials is dangerous because I do think there's
a lot of guys even if that okay, see bench
or younger players. I don't know them as well, but
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they're they're part of that core. They have a pretty
deep core of players. And even if you get playing
either you know, yeah, so I will be curious see
how they progress as a team because for the rest
of you don't want that to happen. But that is
scary obviously the SGA, he's not terribly old, like he's
that dude's probably not going away for a long time.
It's okay, you not like.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
How he plays all you want, but yeah, that's mine.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
He's here though, you know, yes, he was a people.
I'll tell you what though his last night the first
half he was hit his elbow jumpers. The rest of
his team was the like see a headlights? They were
jack of threes. They don't what the fuck do if
SGA had an off night last night the first half
pace was probably up tedded half and they were talking
at different story right now at our show.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
True, very true, that's a good point. And then you know,
just to go off some of the stuff we talked
about the media last year or last last year, last
last episode, like this week. So the game's about so
instead of breaking down the game, Marshall, you know you're
(32:43):
japan A Smith talking about you know, Perkins is irritating me,
and I'll tell you why. It's like, dude, I don't
give a shit about your guys. Are why you arguing?
Yeah you did have a debate, but it's all everyone
was making their case of who's gonna win, you know,
but there's no point in freaking the fuck out where
Why do you have to make it about yourself?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Then I'm not done.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Then Gilbert Arenas, who damn good talent, watched him at
Zona high level talent, you know, made a mistake you know, yeah,
dumb mistake. But as once again as a podcaster, Metior,
(33:28):
he's just garbage, dude.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
He came up there and said, I quote the one
who's leading the team, that ring counts the second option ring.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
No one respects it.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
So and Eddie Johnson on Twitter said, so, no one
respected Kareem, no one respected Kyrie with Brown, he won
the MVP last year. He outplayed Datum.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Remember that.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
What I mean?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Dude? Like, it's so yeah, because then you'd have to choose, okay,
is it Durant or Curry? Then, so, so someone's discounting.
Now the discount for Durant's different. That's now, that's a point.
That's a point because of the backstory. You were up
three to one and then you went to your enemy,
and that's now. That's legit. That's legit. But to sit
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here and say all these two through tens don't it's like,
what did you didn't win one?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Shut the fuck up? Does Charles Barkley?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Is he a bad player?
Speaker 5 (34:34):
You know?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I mean, fu Karl Malone, you know, to be honest
with you on.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Him? Is Stockton and have it? You like, come on, dude, yeah,
so so Gary Payton and Kemp. They're just garbage. All
these people are garbage. So that means Kobe the first
couple of championship, Kobe's rings don't count. They only count
when he won it and he.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Was number one and not Paul, Like, what are we talking?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You can't win it, So they should have just gave
Jordan the ring when he went for sixty six against
the Celtics even though they lost.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
You know, it's just the dumbest ship.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, I just I'm just so sick of this dumb ship.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Well, and that could be part of the reason why
raised are down too, is because you're not bringing more fans.
Like I know that I'm at it's a ditch sport,
but like I do feel like after the four Nations
stay like the Sally Cuff this year, Like every year
people say, oh, man, hockey's a fun sport, but I
think that they do their broadcasting it's they're not. They're
not having every other sport. They're trying to people sport
(35:35):
in a fun way.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
And do they do this fucking crazy ship dude?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yes, And now that now there are only five guys
on the court, you know, I understand. And if you
can get a shock and cove E two out of
the best five players. Yeah, you're gonna dominate. So I
get why it's a different debate. But they never used
this ring ship and never used to be a thing. Dude,
it never used to be a big thing.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
But even their pregame shows like they're not bringing people
in with the bands that they talk about five stories
about the players that are good stories. You're just talking
about basketball, but they don't do that.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
ESPN has really fucked up the sport they really are
talking about in this next generation they're used to this. Yeah,
so that's why on Twitter it's all fucked up, because
I mean Twitter's fucked up for Vrietaryson, well, the NBA.
It's like they're so singular dumb things that argue about
(36:37):
that you're just taking a credit away from people that
are held players like it's it is ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
I agree, I agree.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
It is so bad now, But it does sound like
Silver Adam Silver is going.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
To announce Las Vegas in Seattle are going to be
the new teams, the new franchises.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
It does sound like that there are somers.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Now, it's just rumors that they're they're it'll take a while,
but there are rumors that they may decrease the amount
of games, so we'll see and maybe it'd be closer
to a European style. And that's another reason why these
pros come over and they're more honed in early in
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their career because it's like college.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
You got two games a week and then you practice
the rest and you don't have to go to school
and ship like that. You know, professional basketball player, that's
what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
If you want to take online courses, cool, that's up
to you. But what we need out of you is
to learn basketball, you know, so that would be interesting.
But yeah, I mean we're we're gonna it's gonna be interesting, man,
because how many more years can we go where it's
not a repeat or a with a new team? Like
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how many more? Now we'll probably get a new team
out of the East, right.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Yeah, yeah, right, And I'm thinking it's gonna be If
I were the Knicks, I just stay but don't do
anything tips come back, you know, like, just don't do anything.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Just keep a ticket for our landed with the East
year it's gotta o. But I'm just they had a
bay Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
People could and let's parley into that to these trades.
You know, bame, we see the first round picks, it
throws you the fuck off. And obviously the first round
picks aren't what they used to be. As we see,
we got to what another two man draft this year,
even though it's deep. But it's not like if people
are talking about the eighteenth pick and oh dude, this
guy's gonna be there. It may turn out, but you know,
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the first rounds, who the fuck knows? You know, yes,
it has been for a while.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Then this is a good draft this year.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I'm not saying anything, but even a good draft, it's
not like it's loaded, you know what I mean, where
guys come in and just boom, they're ready to go,
you know. So, but I do like they need shooting
and that guy can go off. I like to train
a lot. They already played nasty defense, but they need
some shooters.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Yeah, I do think that obviously at H Orlando, Yeah,
they because that a lot of people are saying that
Paula but Schero could be a top ten player within
like two years. Like the stock on him is high.
I don't know, but he's special, good man and their
defense to that. So yeah, Adam Bain was helpful. I
do think that the four first picks, it's like, yeah,
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I think ever since the Rudy go Bear trade, does
he like I've just got throwing more pick?
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Well, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Don't think Memphis is desibate, isn't worth for a first
round picks?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
But and remember Orlando, if a lot of them are theirs,
I don't even remember how much are theirs or not true.
But if you're good, you know, like the Teverros have been,
those aren't great picks.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Yeah, yeah, you're true.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
But there's still too many. It feels like, yeah, I
know what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
And then from the mephis standpoint just quickly like you know,
because they're talking. I was listening to my guy and
he was saying like he's like, we don't I don't
want to blow it up because I like after the
Desert Bay trade, win Horse or steven A said, I
believe Windhorse like, oh is Memphis got blow it up?
And their point of Memphis was no, because how did
you go this year? The teams wanted to blow it
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up this year to get Cooper flag? Oh shit, you didn't.
So that's hard. That's up. Now the odds for slim
for Dallas this year. But to their point, and I
need to should be a lot to a lot of
teams points. Dallas was not supposed to get the first
overall pick. So all those teams like the Wizards who
were taking it this year, okay, like New or Leans
taken it. You teams that take it this year were
(40:40):
supposed to get Cooper flag, the Cooper fly sleepstikes went
to the team we had a one point chance of
doing it, which I think is good for the sport
that because I do think the taking sucks. I do
feel this year there's about four or five teams at
the end of the year, like, dude, how many games
can we lose? And that sucks for the sport in general.
That fucks up seeding, that fucks up fans go to games.
That's bad for kids. More bad thing too, you know.
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And in football, I mean, it's gonna get longer.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
But seventeen games, the last couple of games you're playing
young players because you don't want to start and get hurt,
but you can't make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Yeah, different, you know, yeah different, you know, yeah, they
taking stuff is bad so yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, but yeah, we also got that Dallas, for instance,
didn't and tried to win and they got. You know,
the playoffs are right there for him, you know. So
like the combination of the picks the way they do
them now right, and also like the lottery, but also
the playing. I think that combination is helping. Now you're
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still gonna have it, You're still gonna have it, but
still it is it. I think that stuff makes people
second guess, you know.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
So I do think that Orlando one Memphis could build
off the jaw. Jared, what's your take on the Durrant trade?
I think I think Memphis and Orlando both one, which
is rare to say, because really a trades you and
I would say, oh dude, someone got hosed. Like I
think both were happy. Would would you agree with that?
For a going the drafts because that is a lot
of picks, and and.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
You know what, they may not even draft, they may
they may send three of them someplace else, you know,
so that they probably aren't gonna get like we sent
all those away. Well guess what, you know, we had
two first rounders last year, had two picks, and we
have a first rounder because thank god Detroit got good. Yeah,
because we thought that was gonna be a couple of years.
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But that is seventeenth. So even though we gave all
those picks away, we had two first rounders.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Now we had to get the second one.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
We did have to give, but we still managed to
have two picks Dillingham and Shannon in the first Yeah,
you know, and now maybe we're gonna get a point guard.
Maybe we can use this pick that we got this year.
You know that was in the town straight. So I
do think that I think that Orlando is as a
son of a bitch to play. You know, they're tough,
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they're a good team, but they get over the hump.
I'm not saying this guy's gonna win a championship. No,
but overall, you're right with all those with all those picks,
I'd have to agree. I think it was they both
won the trade. And then I I definitely think Houston
won the trade considering Phoenix, like, was it five picks
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for Durant?
Speaker 3 (43:20):
How many guys?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
So no, no, no, I'm saying to get him, originally
they had to give up a bunch of players.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Cam Johnson, Bridges, was it Michel Bridges.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Or believe I want to say yes that that does
sound great.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
And they have to give a bunch of picks.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
So they weren't gonna get that back obviously, but considering
having to do all that, and it didn't do ship
to him or for them, but get swept by Minnesota.
But anyway, and then like a couple of years ago
they had a good run. Obviously, chunk of years ago
they was in the finals before him. But you know,
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like Green had like I think one or two double
digit games in that series.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Like he he was.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Bad and he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
He wasn't, of course, I don't.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
You know, even then I was saying, don't jack a
bunch of shots, but at least take some, dude, you know,
you gotta take some Like it just seemed like he
just go away and he was like shy to shoot then,
and like, oh shit, I'm just gonna single digits it,
you know, and it doesn't get like thirteen assists or something,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Yeah, So I thought.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Even though he's relatively young, I thought, given the talent
around him, he should have played better. And so they're
gonna move him regardless, I think. And now it's sounds
I'm hearing things that they're gonna move them Phoenix.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
Is gonna movem oh okay, so I and.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Maybe that's not true. And then Dylan Dilan Brooks man,
people are kind of up all all over the place
with him. You know.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
I think once he's on your team, you're like this guy.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I kind of like this guy, you know, because he's
to be in the dude's ear. He's gonna play defense
every night. He's gonna come to play. He can't go
off offensively at times. He's probably overpaid. So give to
get only a first rounder with a tenth pick.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
So you got the tenth pick.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
You got a guy you were gonna try to trade,
and then you got a solid defender and a three
point guy. And I'm not saying bad, but when you
have Van Fleet, Durant Thompson and you kept Jabbari Smith
and they were gonna keep saying goom, but to keep
Jabari Smith like that, dude, if you look at Durant
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Thompson Smith and saying gooon, that is a tall, long, linky,
very athletic, very I'll move the ball, you know, just
heads up players, dude. So I I think Houston won
it pretty much, hands down. I think there was no
winning the trade for for them. I really don't think
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there was a way. It's funny because it sounds like
the at the last second Durant either didn't.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Want to be here or we didn't want to extend him.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Whichever that is, I don't know, but we would have
gave him the best win. Now players, but you know
they're they're thinking of a bunch of stuff. So I
think I definitely think Houston won. And if he does
go a little lower than the max on the extension,
Houston's gonna be a team to reckon with the next
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couple of years.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
What are your thoughts, sir?
Speaker 4 (46:34):
Uh well, uh god, I was thinking three things once
to win it there, so uh Houston. Houston has uh
fodabeno fucking defense, like the way they played Golden State.
Like I know, Golden State did really well again sever brawls. Defensively,
Houston did the same thing against Golden State, and that's sure.
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They just kind of like our Land No, very similar.
If they had a babe, they had Katie Obos to
Katie's breather band. Well, I don't know, we'll see debatable.
I'm not a huge KDI, but I do think that
when you add a guy, now can get you buckets
because that was their one issue. Uh, if if Kevin
Durant had been on this Houston team, Houston would have
knocked out Golden State.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
He's from the field, forty from the three and like
eighty something from the free.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
He's still good and obviously he's getting older, but you're
showing himself with a pretty young team, very athletic, and
then it's not like he just needs to carry the
torch like like, so that is that is a very
scary piece of Again, Ifiannis goes to the West too,
I know, but so I guess I I you could say,
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Chris though, that Phoenix won this because in a weird way,
they had to make a trade. They were like in
Guantanamo Bay salary cap like they were so screwed financially
that they had to trade KD. I'm not saying maybe
the Houston was right spot or not. But with the
money they had paid Bill and Booker and Durant and had.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Done Billy, did you even bring Bill over? You know?
Speaker 4 (48:07):
And and I guess Booker is gonna make like seven
they were in such a deep hole financially. Maybe this
isn't called a whib is the mood you had to make.
So from the Phoenix Suns standpoint, I guess you're kind
of happy because now we're kind of digging away out
of purgatory again. Houston won it.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
But the thing, that's my point, there was never gonna
be away. They won the trade though they were stuck here.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
Ye. Yeah, Now you're kind of working your way up
to normalcy again in a way, like the ship that
that that that yeah, because that that the Sun's run
wasn't that long ago at all, and they had such
a they were kind of in a way, they're really
similar to Okay, see because with Booker and Paul you
had a bunch of young kids on the bench who
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were like a fun team to watch.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
And he got and Cam and Champagne and yeah and.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Remember the big they didn't want to give him the Max.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yeah, honestly, like that kind of turned out because he
ain't shipped right now.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
You know atan, Yeah, but they have ever since then.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
I got a little funky you.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
Know, yeah, and it's falled apart. So again, Phoenix, I hope,
you know, hope, this is uh step wad to get
your way back up to above water. So it's a
fan guy, but again, this had to happen, and maybe
you trade b Old and maybe you kind of revamp
around Booker, and Booker is likely what do you rigular
the West right now? But he's a good player. But
this was a step one they had to make. And
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for Houston, if you can be a top three defense,
you had read that that that that could be scared enough,
you know.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah, because they were just trying. He had so much
ship on him, his efficiency started going down, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (49:56):
You know it was where the big bass kind of
drifted away. That dude, he don't give a shit. He's
gonna take the ball, dribble out of the block and score.
And he did that relentlessly against the Warriors, who will
get head of lead defense. So yeah, the durantam Bain
is obviously good news for both those teams. Uh And
obviously as we're hearing about, there's gonna be a lot
of trades here for the people say it's just gonna
(50:18):
be a crazy offseason. Now to your point, Chris, people
have to get savvy because you do not a lot
of teams have open money, but trades will go down,
which still be more fun. Yeah, and we have a
couple of probably maybe some guys who are gonna be
producing pretty quickly. And obviously Cooper Flag is going to Dallas,
but there's a couple of those top ten.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
Don't go to the Spurs or don't don't go to
the West.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Keep Giant out the West, dude, I'm gonna start a petition.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
Keep Giannis out of the West.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Unless you want to put the Timberwolves in the East
next season, then we can talk.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
If you're honest, though, do you I obviously he's gonna go,
wants to go, but I'd want to go East because dude,
the West is.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
And hey, that team played them pretty tough, the Pacers,
you know, and that's without.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
Hallie, so there it will be, you know.
Speaker 4 (51:09):
Yeah, yeah, I think that.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Does open up without Tatum without you know, I mean
the Lillard thing, that does suck. But yeah, I don't know, man,
But just ahead, you know, just for the audience. Once again,
we're just if Jannis gets traded, as soon as we
can both get our schedule together, we're gonna do a show.
But we may let some fairly sizable moves go and
(51:34):
see where Yannis is and see if he's actually gonna
get traded, because then we'll kind of talk, you talk
our way through all that stuff. But we'll just kind
of play it by ear as far as a free
agency show.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
And then obviously I just looked at it nine weeks
from now.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Let's go in a couple of days actually by Thursday.
And I'm not I'm not talking about week zero, Okay,
I'm talking about the.
Speaker 3 (52:01):
Real week one.
Speaker 4 (52:02):
Week one is loaded.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
Yeah, so I mean.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
You're looking at you know, about about a little over
nine weeks, the College Ball Show will be backtalking college
f and football.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
Yeah, I had no, dude. Yeah, we will pull up
peek wider you calendar. There's like four legit top dog
like big games. So before you know, we'll be talking.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
To playing non conference games anymore. Because this morning, that's
what everybody said. That wasn't even gonna.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Happen, you know. Meanwhile, we're hearing an SEC and Big
Ten challenge. We're hearing they're trying to set that up
for a non conference game, which I think is very
smart because it could be a decider, you know.
Speaker 4 (52:40):
And I was wondering, Chris, just the last question for
the show that do you want to do an episode
on the Belichick and his girlfriend before a coulture if
I if I give us I'm just I'm just saying, okay,
Christmas for it.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
Yet we'll see.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Yeah, because well he he can't even answer questions without
looking at her. That sixty minute shit was shaky. When
when she said, don't answer the question how we met,
I was like, what, here's the most disciplined guy. We know.
It comes to like sturdy, you're you know, we're running
a tight ship. Obviously it was a little looser than
(53:18):
you know at the you knows he had killers in thereybody.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
Well, we'll talk about something else.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
When I saw that when they you know, shot the
video went to her, ye, no, dude, it's like what ude,
And she's on the field and she's it's just okay,
you can be on the field. But then it feels
like she's giving advice to people.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
It's like, dude, what is your background?
Speaker 1 (53:44):
You know?
Speaker 3 (53:44):
North Carolina's like do we have bell checking?
Speaker 1 (53:46):
And you're like, you know, like we didn't sign up
for this up.
Speaker 3 (53:54):
I bet you she had in the contract. I'm on
the field, I'm doing this.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
I'm running specially she was gonna the special teams person
before you know it, dude, Yeah, I mean maybe she
knows football, dude, but she don't know like Belichick, she don't.
You gotta be a high school coach and work. Even
Dion he had to start at high school, you know, yeah,
little league high school, uh D one A and then
(54:20):
you know, like even a guy like Dion had to
do that, you know, and he worked his way up.
So hey, man, that's you say. We'll probably do a show,
and I some other ship's gonna come up, you know,
in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (54:32):
Yeah, well I did see a TikTok. He was trained
to say, guys, guys rapping the boys over to watch
Love isolence to that be finals. So Chris, I've made
you a Belichick's girlfriend Love Island recap before the start.
We'll let you know how that goes. Until then, stay safe,
get outside, place some golf, and enjoy the summer. Boys
are out tonight. Piece
NBA basketball fans, Welcome back to the NBA Playoff Banter Podcast.
He's Marshall, I'm Chris, and we're here to recap what
was a great series that obviously we didn't get an
amazing fourth quarter obviously as well, seeing Halliburton hit three
(00:23):
threes early and then go down, you could really kind
of just tell when it happened, like, man, he is
down down, So you got a feel for him not
just trying to win the game, but also next year,
you know, the East, it's it's a mess. Next year, man,
it is a it is a just a mess with
(00:45):
the injuries, obviously. So we are going to break down
a little bit of Game six. Obviously, you know, I've
said obviously a lot here. It got out of hand
fairly quickly. We'll talk a fair amount about Game seven.
Then we'll give our thoughts on the Kevin Durant trade
that is now well, I guess you can't say it's
(01:06):
one hundred official because it doesn't become official till like
July sixth, but they do have that. You know, we
have the draft coming up, and what we were thinking is,
well we'll kind of see what Yiannis does and see
what happens. We probably won't do a free agency show
too early. We'll probably do it later in the summer.
If Yannis is able, you know, it does get traded,
(01:30):
then we'll have an emergency type podcast. But overall, we're
just gonna kinda kind of judge how the market goes,
because you know, it's not like a wind and dining
these free agents type offseason like it normally is. I
think it's Brooklyn that has real money that they could
sign somebody, but a lot of these have to be
signed in trades, so we're probably not gonna go too deep.
(01:51):
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All of the second there has been a little little
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co host Marshall. How are you doing, sir, Hope everybody's
everything's going on?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Are good?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Obviously we we didn't get to uh hang out too much,
but you were back in the in the motherland of Minnesota.
And I'll tell you what, dude, it was pretty hot
this this weekend. It was like ninety six, which is
hot for us.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
But how you doing, my friend, Yeah, we had just
uh has a bad time, but uh not too bad, man.
I can get sleeped out because NBA playoffs are over,
NHL playoffs are over. It's a I know the British Open,
which I love watching. That's an early morning all the
couch deal, so I can catch up on the sleep
and reduce by blood pressure and stress level. I did
(03:57):
have the Warriors mane deeper, but the Oilers took out
maybe probably a couple of weeks out of my life.
But yeah, but hey we're I'm okay, and uh, you know,
for just looking back on it now, we got a
really good finals. Uh yeah, I know that at the
at the start of the mainstream media is like, ah,
(04:18):
it's okay, see it's Indiana. Like yeah, but even if
you're a middle like middle of the road sports fan,
or even like a low level basketball fan, like if
you didn't like the series, like I would love to
hear why, because that that was it went seven. Uh
there was highs, there was lows. Uh, there wasn't I
would say any like bad blood. There wasn't like crazy
(04:39):
drama of the court. But it was just like good basketball.
And if you don't like that, I think you're you're
you're nitpicking or maybe that they maybe they beat a
team that's your teams. I mean, that's why. But as
just a irrational basketball fan, Chris there really wasn't much
to bitch about it. It was just a fun series. And uh,
I never really thought about this, but that Chris Vernon,
(05:01):
who has listened to the guy from Memphis man a
good point. Yeah, he's like, I think there's something be
said for uh, middle market to lower market home base,
home court fan and the whole court. Look, because I
thought about it. He makes you point is about how
the if you like for the New York Knicks h
where played, I think to get a Knicks ticket when
(05:24):
it was nix Pacers, to get like upper level seats,
it was like sixty seven hundred dollars to get in
the door.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And as the series go on it dranks more too. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
And but then for okay See in Indiana, you're like, God,
these fan base are great. You don't now, I'm sure
the prices go high, but you don't get the the
okay See and Pacer fans. You get the fans who
pretty much been there all year. Now, yes, it's gonna
go up somebody, but you're not gonna price You're not
gonna price out a blue collar fail like you and
I would be if we want to go, you could
(05:55):
still afford it, sir, there's somebody said for like, I
think there's that kind of like huh, Like you're not
gonna make a Pacers fan pay seven hundred dollars for
doles leave. You're gonna have Pacers fans who were maybe
have take a little boy of the paycheck. But that
just that point is like shit, that's kind of right,
Like you aren't gonna have the rout your fan basis
because you're not price Scholengium as much as you can to.
(06:15):
That just leads to a better environment, which we definitely had.
Like I know, you can't really tell unless you're there,
but when you heard like the defensive chants from both
stadium fans in the series, it was loud, and I
think that's just fun for basketball too. I'm not gonna
say it's Oracle, and I think Oracle truly was blue collar.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
You can tell from Oakland to San Francisco totally different,
you know, which.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Completely priced off the Oakland fans. How you have this
ree which is the safe So I just hit me,
I'm like, you know that makes sense and good for
those fan bases because you know it is where you
gets small markets, but an overall fans, players coaches it
was a pretty good series.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
It was very good, and obviously you gotta put standard
of living in how much you make, you know, per
per year into those you know, the city rents higher,
but you're making more money. So but yeah, that is
a good point. And there are a lot more middle markets,
mid sized markets than people think, Minneapolis being one of those.
(07:18):
It was kind of funky though that you know, if
you put if you just go NBA TV market, if
you put them together, it was still the fourteenth ring market,
you know, so that is pretty low. Although Indiana actually
isn't as low as you think for overall TV sports
market because they have the Colts and you know they're
(07:39):
they have the pay or not the Pacers, but the Hoosiers. Yeah,
that gets going. But overall they're not as low as
you think. I think they're in the thirties. But but
obviously Oklahoma City they're really low. So we knew that
it was going to be a rating struggle. But overall,
(07:59):
I guess said, it was good basketball and it is
kind of funny, and that's why it's a lot of
just casual fans. You know, they always talk about, oh,
the conspiracies for the big market and It's like, Man,
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Has been fucking that up for a while.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Then if there's a conspiracy, because they would have taken
the Nick we talked about the Nicks and the Timberwolves,
that would have.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Popped the fuck off, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Soyeh all, these conspiracies only work when it finally kind
of coordinates after. You know, if you throw ten ideas
against the wall, one stick, see it's a conspiracy. What
about those other nine fucking things you're talking about? You know,
it's kind of like the Dallas thing. How they said
they're gonna move them to Vegas. That's why they allowed
(08:43):
this trade to go. They weren't saying they're gonna get
the first pick. Now if they no one said that, right, Marshall,
No one said that. So if they would have said
they get the first pick, then at least your conspiracy
lines up. Meanwhile, they're not gonna They're not gonna move Dallas,
a large market out of out of the NBA. It
makes no fucking sense.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
You know.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Well, I've I've heard that the older the odor of
the olds Vegas, this MAVs out is a huge like
Casito person, And that's why you want to go to Vegas.
So that actually sounds legible, Like it's like that woman,
if she can't get a casino Dallas, she would move
them to Vegas. That could be possible. But that's not
a conspiracy. That's just a with her background, that could
(09:24):
be possible. I'm not saying it's likely, but that sounds
like a logical down the road idea. If Dallas could
get casito like that, that's not like a conspiracy. That's
just with her background and wanted to have a casito
and Dallas being anti gably like that, that could logistically happen.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I got news for it. They're not moving now the
Dallas Mavericks out of Dallas. Probably not, Yeah, because they're
about to announce Vegas and Seattle as the new teams.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah, which can't sol there'd be no new team.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
It wouldn't be a new they would say, hey, Dallas
is moving to Vegas. That's what it would be new team.
There wouldn't be they wouldn't. That's not adding a team.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
That's maybe Dallas gets the casito or take way everything
else their state. Why not add something for.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
I'll stop on that, yeah, because then we're going to
get in the guns and all this stuff, and you know,
but anyway, yeah, I just think, uh, good ball is
good ball, and and and people that watch it, like,
you can't look at It's like boxing, do you can't
look at casual fans, Like casual fans are always going
(10:34):
to be casual fans, you know, after a while, you know,
Golden State obviously, when it's your squad, that's different.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
But after a while you do get sick of the
same team's winning, right But the casual fans someone will
even say it, but clearly the ratings tell you that
they're not sick of it, you know, because you know,
and I do think that ultimately this seven year run
creates a lot because some of those teams still exist
(11:05):
to an extent anyway, and I do think those will
make for good either opponents for a name team, a
big market team, you know, to say, oh, this is
if the Knicks make it next year, Oklahoma City's going
for their second repeat.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
You know, then all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That because these are still highly rated games that a
lot of casual see, even if they're low ratings, you know,
still ten million people seeing it, you know, So I
think that that is kind of interesting to I think
ultimately it could Liken Aunt Edwards like him going against
these quality opponents, you know, does add up to help
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turn the page in the coming years.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
But if you look at Okay, see they.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Have everyone under contract next year and we know the
picks that they have, So if any team can keep
it at least for one to two years, they definitely have.
You know, now someone's gonna get paid in probably too much,
and maybe they'd make a trade at some point, but
they barring injury, which we'll get into, it feels like
(12:18):
they have the best shot. But you could say the
same thing about Boston last year. They had a deep team,
no one was gonna beat them, and it looked like
they're done.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Now they didn't make it this year and they're done.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
You know, they're not gonna win the team next year,
so you never really know how that goes. Real quick,
back to game six, real quick from Thursday, when it
was like ten to two or twelve to two. I
was like, oh boy, that's a great start for OKAC, Like,
holy shit, that was quick. You know, a lot of
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these games have kind of you know, slowly got going.
They've been actually low scoring for the first six minutes.
A lot of them, you know, and I was thinking, shit, dude,
like that was that was a quick little lead. But
then and.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Nate Smith had two falls pretty early.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
But then the Pacers, you know, make a couple of
runs and you know, they they they get back that
they they get into the game real quick.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Like like like it was nothing.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
They started out, oh of eight from the field, and
then the next thing, you know, they were eight of
ten from the field. And in that first quarter, okay,
see had five turnovers, topping was going off. There was
another seven zero run and overall they ended up getting
their largest lead of the series, and it was a
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seventeen to two run over a five minute stretch that
made it fifty one to thirty five. And you know,
there really wasn't much else to comment about that.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
You know, they just they took it.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
They took it away, and it was it was a
wide variety once again, the Pacers, a wide variety of
folks chipping in. You know, Siakam had like eighteen and
sixteen TJ like people were, you know, people were going
nuts like a variety of ways. And Halliburton was like
kind of looking kind of stiff and looking hurt. In
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the first part of the game six, and then you
saw him warming up and they didn't even have need
to have a lot of their starters down the stretch
of that game. So, you know, coming off that game, Marshall,
were what were what was your minds that? I mean,
obviously you're happy as a game seven, but what were
going into this thing? Were you like, now all of
(14:43):
a sudden? My point is all the pressure was all
of a sudden on ok See and they hadn't been
shooting well at all from three you know, and I'm thinking, dude.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I didn't I didn't put any money on the game.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Okay, I'll admit that, but I kind of was leave
leaning Indiana going into that game by the time we
got to game seven, even though both of us you know,
ultimately picked the okay See originally. But what are your
thoughts coming out of that game where once again it
was like a blowout and there'd only been two games
(15:16):
where they were really just like that. You know, what
were your thoughts though heading in to you know, last
night's game. Uh.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I think to summarize the best I can ever think
about this is that this okay See team had a
they were an elite regular season team but not an
elite playoff team, Like I will put them up there
on a level with like some of my Golden State
teams are, like, I don't eat what Lebron did. Like,
(15:46):
this team was a very very highly talented regular season team.
But if they want to remember as one of the
better ones, like the one of the better ones wins
that game six, like and I was, I honestly was surprised.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Then probably don't lose game one either.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
True and to see so I was actually at a
play flight hole that day and I turned on it
was like thirty two to thirty three, and I was like, oh, okay, okay,
see just hang in there.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Then they went on a thirty to nine run and
again tip of the cap. Okay, see what this title?
But like the regular season doesn't match their portfolio of
the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
So the analytics people need to calm them down a
little bit on this team, is what you're saying. Yeah,
or even just after rankings, analytically we've heard such stuff
about them.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Well, it's like I hear you. However, you know.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Well, and I and I do think it goes to
show because there's always been that theory of like you know, uh,
you gotta you gotta be a bore an older team.
They're they're they're a young team by age rubbers, and
like again they they got a ring. There's nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Right, second youngest team to win one. Yeah, in the
finals or something.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
But yeah, I just there's a couple of where it's like, damn,
like they're they're hanging in there, because analytically, the Pacers
really had no business hay with them in the whole
series if you look from a number standpoint. Yeah, but
again it's a super.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Large underdog at the beginning.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
If we talked about this, takers out of the road.
I honestly I think I'll remember the Pacers more than Okay, see,
just because of like they really were a rarity. I
I heard they're the first ever team I know they
didn't win it, but to take it to seven, Okay,
there were not a single player average twenty points per
game of the series. Like I know, I'm saying, if
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the Pacers had won, they've been the first ever NBA
team since ninety two to not have or ninety three
when they or in the mid nineties when they started
keeping the stat but player did not because obviously Jordan's
but since he didn't average twenty, no, just under, he
had like nineteen.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Points playoffs, not for this series.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Okay, it's obviously really close. But yeah, like they were,
and honestly they had the better coach. But look, I
just think that's a tip of the captain at the
end of that night to come out a little bit slow.
But they put her on because I really did think,
oh and we said the last show, Albert's is banked up. Dude,
okay See, he's got it right, Like I really, Okay,
obviously they're gonna they're gonna put a fight, but you're
(18:20):
the better team and you should be able to take
care of business. I was really surprised with how dubbed
it they looked, and then they kind of just bought
the gas because going into halftime when it was like
seventy to forty two, I believe it's like okay, like, dude,
all right, we're going back to game seven. So I
was very surprised with that outcome. I really thought, okay
See would have finished it, but it's just growing pains
(18:41):
her going through as a team, So that definitely surprised me.
I did bet okay See first half a Game six
and Game seven, so screw them for sure. Yeah, I
last night was anyways, but uh yeah, I just a
tip of the cap to the Pacers, and I truly
think that again, I'm gonna be talking about the guys
have lost. But what Carlisle did for that matchupble stress
(19:04):
because clearly, okay, See has the better players, like from
a higher level standpoint, but yeah, but they they talked
about and I don't know like exzuls this, but I
heard like ESPN about how they found a different way
to attack Sga on his perimeter defensive like defensively, and
it really took about his element. It's like dude who
(19:24):
comes up like the dude's been doing it all year,
So I just thought.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
That he's still points.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
So yeah, but I LM and he got but I
know what you're saying, Yeah that's all that counts.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Carlisle did a great job. But obviously
Daniel Dagnoll's got a trophy dow too, So I'm just
kind of torn. Like normally, I feel they when a
team wins a championship, it's like, oh, we're gonna talk
about that, which we are, but this is just such
a uh a crazy story for the team that got
second place, like it really was a true team, which
(19:57):
you were almost literally never see that. That's the part
that's kind of stuck in my head more so than okay,
see what read like, yes they deserve pret the were
the best team. SGA carried their masters in the first
half last night, but it's like, yeah, the Pacers. I
don't think we'll see a team like the Pacers in
the finals again quite a while. Just for of the
hodgepodg wait all tied together, I think the spyway to view.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
It well, and how they got there, you know, like, yeah, series,
they had to do some crazy shit, you know, And
and you're right, like as much as we could say, oh,
Haliburton Game one or Haliburton against the Knicks or you know,
that is true, but we always stated but it was
these two dudes that got him to that point and
(20:39):
then he took them home.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
And so you're right, they needed everybody and it was
up in the air. You could probably say about three
guys were up in the air for MVP. If Indiana
I thought it can't would it came down to game seven?
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, And this is me who had a Halliburton bet
on the MVP plus nineteen or nine death. So he
tells you how much of an underdog they were when
Halliburton was a plus nine to ten for MVP.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I mean, yes, I had to make that.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Bet and SGA by six before the series started.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Had to make it, you know, because it was like
why not you know, don't get me wrong. When he
hit those three threes, He's like, oh shit, this is
gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, But but.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I'm the type that I don't put enough money down
to where I'm right when Halliburton goes.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Down, I'm thinking of him. You know, I'm not out
there on Twitter like my.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
God, a pushy well you go down, and you know
all that shit, Like I don't I worry about my bet.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
You want to you play bets, you want to win
him obviously.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yes, I never put down enough money to where it
ruins the whole fucking game for me.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
You know that type of thing. Yeah, yeah, And I
just felt so bad for Haliburton when you when he
went down, and and honestly, like.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
We knew, you know, generally game sevens, especially in the finals,
but game sevens can be a rock fight.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
That's usually what they are.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
You used to each other so many games now, and
it was a rock fight, you know, the first chunk
of pretty much whole game until they got it going.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
But you know, Indiana, the ball movement.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
In the first half compared to the second half clearly
was an issue.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
But that's I think that's where Haliburton comes in. Yeah, people,
look when we talk.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
About you know, analytics, and well he's only averaging nineteen points.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Bro, Yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
But you see how he got off the ball quick
and now it's boom boom boom, and you know, and
then he's more open when he gets the ball back.
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, we saw that, you know, so.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
You know, you never know what happens obviously, but the
way even okay, so it's it's basically pretty much tied
that half. It's close, right, and they kind of they
hung with him when Haliburton went off right away, they
go in the locker room, come out in the third
quarter's like okay, okay, see he's gonna make a little run.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
But then Indiana came back, make a little run, came back,
make it.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
And then finally those runs in the comebacks started to
become you know a little wider, and then pretty sure,
and it's seven and nine. Oh we're double digits. Oh
it's the largest, you know. And then it was like, okay, dude,
this is And in the fourth quarter they got it
to twenty.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Credit to Indiana. They did. They were they were trying, dude.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
You know, a couple of them had bad games, some
of them were playing awesome.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
They they cut it to ten two separate times.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
You know, if Halliburton's out there, we you know, with
five minutes left, we may have a different mentality of
what's gonna happen. Then it is. It is gonna go
down on you just never know what would have happened
either way.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I'm not gonna be one of those people that just
given the end of the game either though, you know
what I mean, I don't like that either because it's like.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
But it didn't come down to two points, you know.
So it did suck that Haliburn got hurt. It did
take a little bit out of it. But you know,
we knew back to those TV ratings, we knew this
was going to be a low one. However, it averaged
sixteen million and peaked at nineteen point three, making it
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the largest finals game rating since the Toronto Golden State
Serious Sins twenty nineteen. And that's with a game that
was out of hand in the fourth quarter, especially to
a casual fan, you know, casual fantasies.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Twenty they're probably out, you know.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
So just to.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Matche, I mean, honestly, if Haliburn was in there and
it was closer, you never know, it could have it
could have spiked more.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
But overall, that will.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Allow the first six games not to go away ratings wise,
but it won't hurt the overall playoff rate. Now, the
overall playoff ratings are up now from last year, no
matter how bad the finals ratings were, because of this booster.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
You know, yeah, it's kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
It was a great series, and I agree with you
about what you said. As long as okay See doesn't
win one next year. If they win next year, then
I think that Indiana team, man, that'll be cool.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
It'll be a great story. It'll really remind me.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Of if oka See let's say wins three out of
the next five years or something like that.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Let's just say or two.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I should say two out of the next four, so
i'd be three out of five I'm not going to talk.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
About three beats and shit like that. It's just so rare.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
But it'll kind of remind me of that Indiana team
that pushed Jordan and them deep to Game seven, were
up three to two. You know, that's kind of what
it reminds me of, or.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Different. They didn't get to be in the finals.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
But.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
You know, the Malice and the Palace Us. The Pacers
had the best team that year. You know, most people
think if they're healthy, they're winning the chip.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
But obviously, you know, when you got a guy.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Suspended for sixty games or whatever, and O'Neil said, you know,
it just fell apart on him. But overall, it really
will come down to next year how much that Indiana
team I.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Think will be remembered.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
But I think for the hardcore fans, you just can't
good luck trying to win four game winners or you know,
each series you have a game winner. Yeah, luck to you,
you know, and lucky if you can find one that
bounces around and they go, you know, like they's just so.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
The odds of that Milwaukee game. For them to lose
that game is just like what you know, like what's
going on? You know, so You're right about the Pacers,
squad man.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
They were fun and okay, see, you know the home
team coming into it fifteen and four at home.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
In game sevens you know, it just.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Wasn't gonna be their night. You never know what the hell, Burton,
but I gotta give them credit. They kept fighting like
the Pacer team that we know they are. You know.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
The only kind of like one takeway I heard from
like different shows that hell he recognized myself last night
was like that first half. Okay, see, like sometimes makes
you wonder like they need a point guard. Like they
were four for twenty on threes in the first half,
and there are so many times this came down to
jack threes, but they're not a good three point shooting team,
(27:30):
like I really like, I mean, I give India had
a credit for hitting there in the first half last night,
keeping it close, but like I think that was really
word to do so Indiana or Okay, so you said, hey, Dorts,
open chuck of three. Hey Chet's open chugg of three,
like you're trying to win game seven at home and yeah,
and that's the thing I've heard is that like Dagg know, well,
(27:52):
like sometimes like the only times everyone set plays is
when they have a time out. I just I wonder
and again, this this is a scary part. Just to flip.
What I'm saying is like, if they do get a
point guard or they have more of a constructive offense,
how good can they be? Holy shit? It's a quick then.
But there really was like there was no It almost
(28:13):
felt like the way okay, see played the first half.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
They those were wide open shots too. Yeah, it's like
you can have them because you're not going to hit them.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Yeah. It was almost just like they felt like they
were just kind of playing like willy nilly, like, oh,
I'm man in jack three, you jack three, uster three one,
you're four for twenty. It's like damn and they and
then the pacers one of the first half. So yeah,
if you're in the end, you're like, okay, yeah, I
just I really the third quarter came.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
And they start hitting those threes a little bit.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yeah, and they get a little swaggled, which is true.
Yeah obviously half Yeah, and that the ball pressure was
a law. I will say, Uh, offensively, they do make
you shake your read. But defensively, yeah, they're they They're
one of the better defense I've seen a lot in
my NBA fandom as a fan, as a whole team,
they are maybe not quite there yet, but defensive wise,
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that was an impressive architect what they did the whole year.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
So I will get really rebounded from a poor series
in that game too.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
He played pretty game.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
So, I mean, obviously, if if Halbert stays healthy, Hudo,
maybe maybe the Patrin who you know, it's a Hoodos part,
but that but that is the one that's like the
father time the injury. But like almost every year for
the past ten years, next time we do a Strow repeat,
it is an injury has almost indicated so dramatically for
(29:33):
the past years.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Who with the star fucking injuries you know, I don't.
It's not just here and there.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
You know, it's the guy you know, yeah, multiple guys.
It seems like for the past couple of years, it's like,
you know, the high profile. Yes, yeah, so obviously sometimes
it hurts you, sometimes it helps you. Uh yeah, now again,
SGA still could easily won that game for his boys,
for sure, But Halibert, I I don't. I don't think
(30:00):
that game ever gets to a twenty point spread, probably right, Yeah, So,
but if you're an Okay, see fan to flip my
script for a moment here of positivity.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Hey, don't go to walking too much here, because you know,
I see a yellow real quick.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Uh okay, yeah, I just uh, they're super young, Like
I know that that Jalen Williams dropped a forty piece
and then he was a minus forty, which I don't
know if that's ever happened in NBA history to go
drop forty to b a mis forty. But yeah, so
you can't say, like and like door, why you shoot
these trees with the rainball, Like the ball leaves the
(30:34):
screen like chet, some high and lows like yeah, if
they do keep this core together, I do think then
you could have this chat down the road of hey,
maybe this is a game where they do not loose
the timberwles by like forty two points, or Memphis doesn't
run them out the gym with John bus Berg is hurt.
So I think the potential is there to close.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Out game six?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
You know, yeah, could I could I down the road?
I hope we were doing this podcast over five six years. Hey,
look at how this team's progress. They're not there yet,
but you do have an extraordinarily young team which Pranke's
plays west of those series with longer and that if
they do keep three to four guys together, you know whatever,
then you could see like four to five years like
oh ship, Like dude, this team is now scary. That's
(31:16):
that baturation which we could see, which would be bad
for a lot of the teams. I like the teams
you like that. That could be an oh like damn,
like you guys got a ring that maybe not your
obviously your highest level of peaking team energy. Yet so
their their potentials is dangerous because I do think there's
a lot of guys even if that okay, see bench
or younger players. I don't know them as well, but
(31:37):
they're they're part of that core. They have a pretty
deep core of players. And even if you get playing
either you know, yeah, so I will be curious see
how they progress as a team because for the rest
of you don't want that to happen. But that is
scary obviously the SGA, he's not terribly old, like he's
that dude's probably not going away for a long time.
It's okay, you not like.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
How he plays all you want, but yeah, that's mine.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
He's here though, you know, yes, he was a people.
I'll tell you what though his last night the first
half he was hit his elbow jumpers. The rest of
his team was the like see a headlights? They were
jack of threes. They don't what the fuck do if
SGA had an off night last night the first half
pace was probably up tedded half and they were talking
at different story right now at our show.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
True, very true, that's a good point. And then you know,
just to go off some of the stuff we talked
about the media last year or last last year, last
last episode, like this week. So the game's about so
instead of breaking down the game, Marshall, you know you're
(32:43):
japan A Smith talking about you know, Perkins is irritating me,
and I'll tell you why. It's like, dude, I don't
give a shit about your guys. Are why you arguing?
Yeah you did have a debate, but it's all everyone
was making their case of who's gonna win, you know,
but there's no point in freaking the fuck out where
Why do you have to make it about yourself?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Then I'm not done.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Then Gilbert Arenas, who damn good talent, watched him at
Zona high level talent, you know, made a mistake you know, yeah,
dumb mistake. But as once again as a podcaster, Metior,
(33:28):
he's just garbage, dude.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
He came up there and said, I quote the one
who's leading the team, that ring counts the second option ring.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
No one respects it.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
So and Eddie Johnson on Twitter said, so, no one
respected Kareem, no one respected Kyrie with Brown, he won
the MVP last year. He outplayed Datum.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Remember that.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
What I mean?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Dude? Like, it's so yeah, because then you'd have to choose, okay,
is it Durant or Curry? Then, so, so someone's discounting.
Now the discount for Durant's different. That's now, that's a point.
That's a point because of the backstory. You were up
three to one and then you went to your enemy,
and that's now. That's legit. That's legit. But to sit
(34:24):
here and say all these two through tens don't it's like,
what did you didn't win one?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Shut the fuck up? Does Charles Barkley?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Is he a bad player?
Speaker 5 (34:34):
You know?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I mean, fu Karl Malone, you know, to be honest
with you on.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Him? Is Stockton and have it? You like, come on, dude, yeah,
so so Gary Payton and Kemp. They're just garbage. All
these people are garbage. So that means Kobe the first
couple of championship, Kobe's rings don't count. They only count
when he won it and he.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Was number one and not Paul, Like, what are we talking?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You can't win it, So they should have just gave
Jordan the ring when he went for sixty six against
the Celtics even though they lost.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
You know, it's just the dumbest ship.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, I just I'm just so sick of this dumb ship.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Well, and that could be part of the reason why
raised are down too, is because you're not bringing more fans.
Like I know that I'm at it's a ditch sport,
but like I do feel like after the four Nations
stay like the Sally Cuff this year, Like every year
people say, oh, man, hockey's a fun sport, but I
think that they do their broadcasting it's they're not. They're
not having every other sport. They're trying to people sport
(35:35):
in a fun way.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
And do they do this fucking crazy ship dude?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yes, And now that now there are only five guys
on the court, you know, I understand. And if you
can get a shock and cove E two out of
the best five players. Yeah, you're gonna dominate. So I
get why it's a different debate. But they never used
this ring ship and never used to be a thing. Dude,
it never used to be a big thing.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
But even their pregame shows like they're not bringing people
in with the bands that they talk about five stories
about the players that are good stories. You're just talking
about basketball, but they don't do that.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
ESPN has really fucked up the sport they really are
talking about in this next generation they're used to this. Yeah,
so that's why on Twitter it's all fucked up, because
I mean Twitter's fucked up for Vrietaryson, well, the NBA.
It's like they're so singular dumb things that argue about
(36:37):
that you're just taking a credit away from people that
are held players like it's it is ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
I agree, I agree.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
It is so bad now, But it does sound like
Silver Adam Silver is going.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
To announce Las Vegas in Seattle are going to be
the new teams, the new franchises.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
It does sound like that there are somers.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Now, it's just rumors that they're they're it'll take a while,
but there are rumors that they may decrease the amount
of games, so we'll see and maybe it'd be closer
to a European style. And that's another reason why these
pros come over and they're more honed in early in
(37:22):
their career because it's like college.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
You got two games a week and then you practice
the rest and you don't have to go to school
and ship like that. You know, professional basketball player, that's
what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
If you want to take online courses, cool, that's up
to you. But what we need out of you is
to learn basketball, you know, so that would be interesting.
But yeah, I mean we're we're gonna it's gonna be interesting, man,
because how many more years can we go where it's
not a repeat or a with a new team? Like
(37:54):
how many more? Now we'll probably get a new team
out of the East, right.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Yeah, yeah, right, And I'm thinking it's gonna be If
I were the Knicks, I just stay but don't do
anything tips come back, you know, like, just don't do anything.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Just keep a ticket for our landed with the East
year it's gotta o. But I'm just they had a
bay Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
People could and let's parley into that to these trades.
You know, bame, we see the first round picks, it
throws you the fuck off. And obviously the first round
picks aren't what they used to be. As we see,
we got to what another two man draft this year,
even though it's deep. But it's not like if people
are talking about the eighteenth pick and oh dude, this
guy's gonna be there. It may turn out, but you know,
(38:41):
the first rounds, who the fuck knows? You know, yes,
it has been for a while.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Then this is a good draft this year.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I'm not saying anything, but even a good draft, it's
not like it's loaded, you know what I mean, where
guys come in and just boom, they're ready to go,
you know. So, but I do like they need shooting
and that guy can go off. I like to train
a lot. They already played nasty defense, but they need
some shooters.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Yeah, I do think that obviously at H Orlando, Yeah,
they because that a lot of people are saying that
Paula but Schero could be a top ten player within
like two years. Like the stock on him is high.
I don't know, but he's special, good man and their
defense to that. So yeah, Adam Bain was helpful. I
do think that the four first picks, it's like, yeah,
(39:30):
I think ever since the Rudy go Bear trade, does
he like I've just got throwing more pick?
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Well, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Don't think Memphis is desibate, isn't worth for a first
round picks?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
But and remember Orlando, if a lot of them are theirs,
I don't even remember how much are theirs or not true.
But if you're good, you know, like the Teverros have been,
those aren't great picks.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Yeah, yeah, you're true.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
But there's still too many. It feels like, yeah, I
know what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
And then from the mephis standpoint just quickly like you know,
because they're talking. I was listening to my guy and
he was saying like he's like, we don't I don't
want to blow it up because I like after the
Desert Bay trade, win Horse or steven A said, I
believe Windhorse like, oh is Memphis got blow it up?
And their point of Memphis was no, because how did
you go this year? The teams wanted to blow it
(40:18):
up this year to get Cooper flag? Oh shit, you didn't.
So that's hard. That's up. Now the odds for slim
for Dallas this year. But to their point, and I
need to should be a lot to a lot of
teams points. Dallas was not supposed to get the first
overall pick. So all those teams like the Wizards who
were taking it this year, okay, like New or Leans
taken it. You teams that take it this year were
(40:40):
supposed to get Cooper flag, the Cooper fly sleepstikes went
to the team we had a one point chance of
doing it, which I think is good for the sport
that because I do think the taking sucks. I do
feel this year there's about four or five teams at
the end of the year, like, dude, how many games
can we lose? And that sucks for the sport in general.
That fucks up seeding, that fucks up fans go to games.
That's bad for kids. More bad thing too, you know.
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And in football, I mean, it's gonna get longer.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
But seventeen games, the last couple of games you're playing
young players because you don't want to start and get hurt,
but you can't make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Yeah, different, you know, yeah different, you know, yeah, they
taking stuff is bad so yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, but yeah, we also got that Dallas, for instance,
didn't and tried to win and they got. You know,
the playoffs are right there for him, you know. So
like the combination of the picks the way they do
them now right, and also like the lottery, but also
the playing. I think that combination is helping. Now you're
(41:36):
still gonna have it, You're still gonna have it, but
still it is it. I think that stuff makes people
second guess, you know.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
So I do think that Orlando one Memphis could build
off the jaw. Jared, what's your take on the Durrant trade?
I think I think Memphis and Orlando both one, which
is rare to say, because really a trades you and
I would say, oh dude, someone got hosed. Like I
think both were happy. Would would you agree with that?
For a going the drafts because that is a lot
of picks, and and.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
You know what, they may not even draft, they may
they may send three of them someplace else, you know,
so that they probably aren't gonna get like we sent
all those away. Well guess what, you know, we had
two first rounders last year, had two picks, and we
have a first rounder because thank god Detroit got good. Yeah,
because we thought that was gonna be a couple of years.
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But that is seventeenth. So even though we gave all
those picks away, we had two first rounders.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Now we had to get the second one.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
We did have to give, but we still managed to
have two picks Dillingham and Shannon in the first Yeah,
you know, and now maybe we're gonna get a point guard.
Maybe we can use this pick that we got this year.
You know that was in the town straight. So I
do think that I think that Orlando is as a
son of a bitch to play. You know, they're tough,
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they're a good team, but they get over the hump.
I'm not saying this guy's gonna win a championship. No,
but overall, you're right with all those with all those picks,
I'd have to agree. I think it was they both
won the trade. And then I I definitely think Houston
won the trade considering Phoenix, like, was it five picks
(43:19):
for Durant?
Speaker 3 (43:20):
How many guys?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
So no, no, no, I'm saying to get him, originally
they had to give up a bunch of players.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Cam Johnson, Bridges, was it Michel Bridges.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Or believe I want to say yes that that does
sound great.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
And they have to give a bunch of picks.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
So they weren't gonna get that back obviously, but considering
having to do all that, and it didn't do ship
to him or for them, but get swept by Minnesota.
But anyway, and then like a couple of years ago
they had a good run. Obviously, chunk of years ago
they was in the finals before him. But you know,
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like Green had like I think one or two double
digit games in that series.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Like he he was.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Bad and he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
He wasn't, of course, I don't.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
You know, even then I was saying, don't jack a
bunch of shots, but at least take some, dude, you know,
you gotta take some Like it just seemed like he
just go away and he was like shy to shoot then,
and like, oh shit, I'm just gonna single digits it,
you know, and it doesn't get like thirteen assists or something,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Yeah, So I thought.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Even though he's relatively young, I thought, given the talent
around him, he should have played better. And so they're
gonna move him regardless, I think. And now it's sounds
I'm hearing things that they're gonna move them Phoenix.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
Is gonna movem oh okay, so I and.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Maybe that's not true. And then Dylan Dilan Brooks man,
people are kind of up all all over the place
with him. You know.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
I think once he's on your team, you're like this guy.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I kind of like this guy, you know, because he's
to be in the dude's ear. He's gonna play defense
every night. He's gonna come to play. He can't go
off offensively at times. He's probably overpaid. So give to
get only a first rounder with a tenth pick.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
So you got the tenth pick.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
You got a guy you were gonna try to trade,
and then you got a solid defender and a three
point guy. And I'm not saying bad, but when you
have Van Fleet, Durant Thompson and you kept Jabbari Smith
and they were gonna keep saying goom, but to keep
Jabari Smith like that, dude, if you look at Durant
(45:38):
Thompson Smith and saying gooon, that is a tall, long, linky,
very athletic, very I'll move the ball, you know, just
heads up players, dude. So I I think Houston won
it pretty much, hands down. I think there was no
winning the trade for for them. I really don't think
(46:01):
there was a way. It's funny because it sounds like
the at the last second Durant either didn't.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Want to be here or we didn't want to extend him.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Whichever that is, I don't know, but we would have
gave him the best win. Now players, but you know
they're they're thinking of a bunch of stuff. So I
think I definitely think Houston won. And if he does
go a little lower than the max on the extension,
Houston's gonna be a team to reckon with the next
(46:30):
couple of years.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
What are your thoughts, sir?
Speaker 4 (46:34):
Uh well, uh god, I was thinking three things once
to win it there, so uh Houston. Houston has uh
fodabeno fucking defense, like the way they played Golden State.
Like I know, Golden State did really well again sever brawls. Defensively,
Houston did the same thing against Golden State, and that's sure.
(46:55):
They just kind of like our Land No, very similar.
If they had a babe, they had Katie Obos to
Katie's breather band. Well, I don't know, we'll see debatable.
I'm not a huge KDI, but I do think that
when you add a guy, now can get you buckets
because that was their one issue. Uh, if if Kevin
Durant had been on this Houston team, Houston would have
knocked out Golden State.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
He's from the field, forty from the three and like
eighty something from the free.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
He's still good and obviously he's getting older, but you're
showing himself with a pretty young team, very athletic, and
then it's not like he just needs to carry the
torch like like, so that is that is a very
scary piece of Again, Ifiannis goes to the West too,
I know, but so I guess I I you could say,
(47:44):
Chris though, that Phoenix won this because in a weird way,
they had to make a trade. They were like in
Guantanamo Bay salary cap like they were so screwed financially
that they had to trade KD. I'm not saying maybe
the Houston was right spot or not. But with the
money they had paid Bill and Booker and Durant and had.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Done Billy, did you even bring Bill over? You know?
Speaker 4 (48:07):
And and I guess Booker is gonna make like seven
they were in such a deep hole financially. Maybe this
isn't called a whib is the mood you had to make.
So from the Phoenix Suns standpoint, I guess you're kind
of happy because now we're kind of digging away out
of purgatory again. Houston won it.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
But the thing, that's my point, there was never gonna
be away. They won the trade though they were stuck here.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
Ye. Yeah, Now you're kind of working your way up
to normalcy again in a way, like the ship that
that that that yeah, because that that the Sun's run
wasn't that long ago at all, and they had such
a they were kind of in a way, they're really
similar to Okay, see because with Booker and Paul you
had a bunch of young kids on the bench who
(48:56):
were like a fun team to watch.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
And he got and Cam and Champagne and yeah and.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Remember the big they didn't want to give him the Max.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yeah, honestly, like that kind of turned out because he
ain't shipped right now.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
You know atan, Yeah, but they have ever since then.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
I got a little funky you.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
Know, yeah, and it's falled apart. So again, Phoenix, I hope,
you know, hope, this is uh step wad to get
your way back up to above water. So it's a
fan guy, but again, this had to happen, and maybe
you trade b Old and maybe you kind of revamp
around Booker, and Booker is likely what do you rigular
the West right now? But he's a good player. But
this was a step one they had to make. And
(49:37):
for Houston, if you can be a top three defense,
you had read that that that that could be scared enough,
you know.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah, because they were just trying. He had so much
ship on him, his efficiency started going down, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (49:56):
You know it was where the big bass kind of
drifted away. That dude, he don't give a shit. He's
gonna take the ball, dribble out of the block and score.
And he did that relentlessly against the Warriors, who will
get head of lead defense. So yeah, the durantam Bain
is obviously good news for both those teams. Uh And
obviously as we're hearing about, there's gonna be a lot
of trades here for the people say it's just gonna
(50:18):
be a crazy offseason. Now to your point, Chris, people
have to get savvy because you do not a lot
of teams have open money, but trades will go down,
which still be more fun. Yeah, and we have a
couple of probably maybe some guys who are gonna be
producing pretty quickly. And obviously Cooper Flag is going to Dallas,
but there's a couple of those top ten.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
Don't go to the Spurs or don't don't go to
the West.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Keep Giant out the West, dude, I'm gonna start a petition.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
Keep Giannis out of the West.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Unless you want to put the Timberwolves in the East
next season, then we can talk.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
If you're honest, though, do you I obviously he's gonna go,
wants to go, but I'd want to go East because dude,
the West is.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
And hey, that team played them pretty tough, the Pacers,
you know, and that's without.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
Hallie, so there it will be, you know.
Speaker 4 (51:09):
Yeah, yeah, I think that.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Does open up without Tatum without you know, I mean
the Lillard thing, that does suck. But yeah, I don't know, man,
But just ahead, you know, just for the audience. Once again,
we're just if Jannis gets traded, as soon as we
can both get our schedule together, we're gonna do a show.
But we may let some fairly sizable moves go and
(51:34):
see where Yannis is and see if he's actually gonna
get traded, because then we'll kind of talk, you talk
our way through all that stuff. But we'll just kind
of play it by ear as far as a free
agency show.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
And then obviously I just looked at it nine weeks
from now.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Let's go in a couple of days actually by Thursday.
And I'm not I'm not talking about week zero, Okay,
I'm talking about the.
Speaker 3 (52:01):
Real week one.
Speaker 4 (52:02):
Week one is loaded.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
Yeah, so I mean.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
You're looking at you know, about about a little over
nine weeks, the College Ball Show will be backtalking college
f and football.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
Yeah, I had no, dude. Yeah, we will pull up
peek wider you calendar. There's like four legit top dog
like big games. So before you know, we'll be talking.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
To playing non conference games anymore. Because this morning, that's
what everybody said. That wasn't even gonna.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Happen, you know. Meanwhile, we're hearing an SEC and Big
Ten challenge. We're hearing they're trying to set that up
for a non conference game, which I think is very
smart because it could be a decider, you know.
Speaker 4 (52:40):
And I was wondering, Chris, just the last question for
the show that do you want to do an episode
on the Belichick and his girlfriend before a coulture if
I if I give us I'm just I'm just saying, okay,
Christmas for it.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
Yet we'll see.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Yeah, because well he he can't even answer questions without
looking at her. That sixty minute shit was shaky. When
when she said, don't answer the question how we met,
I was like, what, here's the most disciplined guy. We know.
It comes to like sturdy, you're you know, we're running
a tight ship. Obviously it was a little looser than
(53:18):
you know at the you knows he had killers in thereybody.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
Well, we'll talk about something else.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
When I saw that when they you know, shot the
video went to her, ye, no, dude, it's like what ude,
And she's on the field and she's it's just okay,
you can be on the field. But then it feels
like she's giving advice to people.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
It's like, dude, what is your background?
Speaker 1 (53:44):
You know?
Speaker 3 (53:44):
North Carolina's like do we have bell checking?
Speaker 1 (53:46):
And you're like, you know, like we didn't sign up
for this up.
Speaker 3 (53:54):
I bet you she had in the contract. I'm on
the field, I'm doing this.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
I'm running specially she was gonna the special teams person
before you know it, dude, Yeah, I mean maybe she
knows football, dude, but she don't know like Belichick, she don't.
You gotta be a high school coach and work. Even
Dion he had to start at high school, you know, yeah,
little league high school, uh D one A and then
(54:20):
you know, like even a guy like Dion had to
do that, you know, and he worked his way up.
So hey, man, that's you say. We'll probably do a show,
and I some other ship's gonna come up, you know,
in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (54:32):
Yeah, well I did see a TikTok. He was trained
to say, guys, guys rapping the boys over to watch
Love isolence to that be finals. So Chris, I've made
you a Belichick's girlfriend Love Island recap before the start.
We'll let you know how that goes. Until then, stay safe,
get outside, place some golf, and enjoy the summer. Boys
are out tonight. Piece
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