Commander Cobra

On today's broadcast we will dive deep into government affairs black helicopters airplane crashes and current headlines. Radio host an ex-military veteran Commander Cobra joins us.
 

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is gonna be great. We have UH Commander Cobra joining us,
which will be an interesting show. Commander Cobra grew up
in UH and resides now in New England and he's
a former US military vet and he works for the DoD.
He flies things like maybe airplanes and helicopters, amongst other things.

(03:37):
He's part of a great show here on kg R,
a dB called UAP Crossfire, And the reason why we're
bringing them out is kind of multifaceted, right, don uh
you know, we want to talk a little bit about
this airplane that got hit by a helicopter, but also
kind of one of the coolest articles I've seen in
a long time is come up and as an investigative journalist,

(03:58):
one of my like dream jobs, Like if there was
a dream job, that'd be like would you disappear and
go off the grid for any job where you just
disappear and nobody sees you, kind of like men in black, right,
like an X Files job in the news today. It's
pretty interesting, you know that they have that kind of job,
and we're going to dive into what that job is.
I want to hear your guys opinion on all this

(04:20):
and a whole bunch more done. But are there any
jobs that you would just disappear off the grid for?
Is there enough money or maybe something you're passionate about.
If you had to get up go and disappear and
do something, what would it be?

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Well, I guess it kind of depends on what you
mean by disappear, Cause, like, if I could just go
off grid and continue to do this job, I'd be fine.
I'd be cool with that. But if I actually had
to like completely disappear from public view, oh man, I
don't know. I mean, I love what I do, I'm
passionate about it. Kind of got that crusader Jane as

(04:52):
you like to call it. So I don't really think
that there is anything that would really make me say,
you know what, let you know, screw it.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, you know, there's a few different jobs I would
think about doing that would potentially bring me into this vein,
and one of them is what we're going to talk about.
Right now, and that's this right here, secretive FBI group
which basically investigates UFOs where they'll get purged by the
Department of Government Efficiency report says, that's right, there's a

(05:22):
real life X files department. Who would have thought that
Fox Malder could have been based off of a real person.
Wouldn't that be interesting if we're just all sitting here
and we found out that X files was all based
on real things, and you're like going back to your damn,
that's a mind, Like my mind just got totally raped,
like totally raped there, and my mind was just destroyed

(05:44):
by it. You know, the idea that X files was
based on true, real stories. Now I'm not saying that's
the case. Maybe some of them are, some of them
are prophetic, right the World Trade Center nine to eleven,
amongst other things. But I wouldn't be surprised like X
files in part was based on real government operations because

(06:06):
that's how they like to do it. And now we're
finding out that there is such a X files category
to the FBI where they do these secretive investigations. Pretty
cool though.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, you know, it's pretty neat. Hopefully they actually do
conduct legitimate you know, investigations and that sort of stuff.
I mean, as I've mentioned multiple times, I'm a huge
fan of the X Files, you know, and so it
is certainly interesting that now, all of a sudden, and
who knows, maybe this was admitted a couple of years
ago to you know, but for the longest time it's like, oh, no,

(06:40):
we certainly don't have a department like that at all.
Wink wink, nudge, nudge. And now you know that so
many government agencies and subgroups are on the chopping block,
they have to come out and be like, well, wait, no,
hold on, what we do is important. You can't, you know,
get rid of us all.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Of a sudden. There is a X Files type program, which,
you know, it's kind of fascinating to hear about all this,
to see all this, and to really dive into this,
because you know, what if Fox Malder and Dana Scully
were based off of real characters and they took the
stories and sure they twisted it, all of a sudden,

(07:19):
you're thinking that there's a Jersey devil and a moth
man and whatever. The septic tank swamp thing episode was
about where guy was taking and dropping a deuce and
swamp thing came out of the you know house in
Adam or whatever. I don't remember something. We'd like that
this really is a parasite man, I think is what
it was. But they had all these weird eventive like episodes,

(07:41):
including about them spraying things and people going insane for
like spraying crops and maybe weather modification and subtype. Fox
Malder would refer to real life like things that went on,
like the Holocaust and Project Paid, Operation paper Clip, and
he'd name real people Too'd like Henry Kishenjerny. Up, Yeah,
Henry Kissinger was responsible for Operational paper Clip, and not

(08:04):
a lot of people would know that, but due de
Foyas and other things, we now can see that. We
all now do know that. And it's interesting to see
in the think about that maybe there is this department,
and if there is this department, do they leak the
data for Hollywood to promote these ideas Mike men in Black,

(08:24):
like when they had the little pen thing that allows
you to implant memories and just flashes and they're like, yeah,
you didn't see us here. What you saw was a
dude picking up his trash and throwing it out, And
they're like poo. That's what everyone thought for you know,
the last fifteen.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Seconds, right, yeah, I mean, who knows what's actually going
on behind the scenes with the guard and stuff like that.
I mean, because as we know full well, reality is
stranger than fiction, right, So I mean it's.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Who knows well, and that's what it comes down to.
So in this article it kind of breaks into it,
all right. It's is a secretive group of FBI agents
tasked with investigating UFOs is deeply concerned that they may
be next in the Department of Government Efficiency BURGE. According
to a new report, HMM Ryan Graves, executive director of
Americans for Safe Aerospace and former Navy pilots, told political

(09:17):
he had spoken with several agents within the UAP working Group.
Unidentified Anomalist Phenomenon, which is what UAP stands for, is
how the US government refers to UFOs. So of course
the algorithms don't catch it because UFO is like the
tinfoil hat conspiracy term, just like chemtrails are the tenfoil
hat conspiracy term for whether modification or you know, cloud seating.

(09:40):
The FBI declined to comment on the FBI personal matters,
but did confirm that the agency investigates unidentified anomalist phenomena
when there is potential for violation of federal law, particularly
unlawful acts that could adversely affect our national interests, and
together the share and analyze intelligence to combat security threat
facing the United States. President Donald Trump's Justice Department began

(10:05):
removing FBI agents and prosecutors tied with the high profile
investigation into January sixth. So, don let's say you get
this gig right, You're you're working for the FBI and
you get to do X files type stuff. What are
you researching? What are you looking into? You have access
to all these government database We're gonna call it Hangar eighteen,
you know, like a hangar that has all this like

(10:26):
top secret government data that you see in X files.
What is it that you're what is it that you're
going to go and research? And for our listeners, I'm
kind of curious. I want you guys to think of,
maybe drop in the chat. What would you look for
if you were hired as an FBI agent to investigate
X filesite type things. And here this is directly correlated

(10:47):
with the UAPs, but that's a pretty wide, pretty wide
range of different things you could study.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Right, Well, I mean it's probably no secret. Anybody who
knows me knows that. If I'm in that position, I'm
going straight for the Roswell files. I'm busting all the
Roswell files wide open. I want to know exactly what happened,
what was there, how many you know, bodies were recovered,
if they were alive, you know what was going on there?
The second file I'm probably opening. You know it sasquatch.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
You really think that there's such a thing as a bigfoot?
I mean, you'd think with all the bigfoot hunters, somebody
would have shot them and cooked them up on a
grill and been like, mm mmm, get me some of
that furry meat. Hells, yeah, you know they went out
there and shot bigfoot and then they like, well, I
ate them. I don't know what else to tell you, guys,
that's all the proof. You know, he's done or with
that begannibalism, I'm not quite sure.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
But well, I mean, so my thing is, I'm agnostic
on the idea of whether or not Bigfoot actually exists.
I'm fascinated by the subject matter, and I've looked into
enough information from reputable academics, like people like doctor Jeff Maildrum,
who've taken a scientific approach to it, that it here

(12:00):
there is enough evidence that there's something more to the
phenomenon than just a hoax. Perhaps it could be something
as easy as you know, something that can be explained away,
perhaps some sort of primate. Although then of course the
issue comes up with, well, if it's an undiscovered primate,
how the hell have we not discovered it in this
massive country of ours, with all the sightings that have

(12:22):
taken place. And then of course there's you know, various
other concepts about, you know, how long do they live,
If they have sparse numbers, then that could potentially lead
into it. If they're intelligent enough to bury their dead,
could be a reason why we may not have found bodies,
a whole bunch of other speculation. I personally don't know
whether or not Bigfoot actually exists, but I'm interested in

(12:45):
the subject in and of itself, and I'd like to
think that maybe there's something out there.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
You know. What's interesting is I pulled up the Library
of Congress and basically I typed in the term bigfoot,
and there's something like there's articles galore that popped up
at least probably almost one hundred articles, and you know

(13:14):
they got names. It says mister Charles Friel or government
trapper was placed on the Honorable by killing or the
honor list by the killing of Bigfoot, one of the
largest and most destructive gray wolves. So they got different
names in here. So who knows where the idea bigfoot
came from. I was just curious that, like, where did

(13:35):
it come from? When did it? Did it ever make
the newspaper? Like if I look up like giant human
skeletons or unidentified flying objects in the sky or whatever.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
There are plenty of times where the subject has actually
made newspapers and whatnot. And as far as where the
idea comes from, I'm not sure in regard to the
origin in general, but I know as far as America
is concerned, there are Native American legends going back over
a thousand years talking about the large, you know, anthropomorphic

(14:05):
carry man on two feet. You know, so these legends
go back long, long before you know, European colonizers were
ever even here. As far as you know, making the
news is only just recently, within the past couple of months.
I saw it pop up on one of the cryptozoology
pages that I follow commemorating the event of the Patterson
Gimblin film. To this very day, the Patterson Gimblin film

(14:28):
has never been debunked, no matter how many times people
have tried to run it through. You know, Oh, here's
how they could have faked it. This that the third
And you know, contrary to conspiracy theories that have been
put out there, they've never admitted it to be faked either.
I've seen that brought up a couple of times. Well
didn't they admit on their deathbed that it was faked? No,
never happened. So, you know, when we have a film

(14:52):
as conclusive as the Patterson Gimblin film that despite all
attempts to debunk it has not been able to be
debunked with science, with all one of the most advanced
scientific methodology and technology. You know, that's that's something.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Which film? Which image is that? Is that the one
with the guy in the gorilla outfit that's walking, that's
a guy in the costume? Is that the one time
returns his head like this.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Well, once again, you know you're saying it's a guy
in a guerrilla costume. That has never been proven.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
I know, it still looks like it. Come on, bro,
if somebody said, here's a million dollars, is this a
guy in a gorilla costume or not? Which way are
you putting your money?

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Well? I would put it on the money of the
scientific experts that have used the most advanced technology to
try to prove that that's what it was and have
failed time and time again.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
I know I still think it's a dude in a costume,
but it could not be. I could be completely wrong
on That's what's great about this program is we don't
have to agree. Don I think it's interesting. You might
think giants are stupid or silly. I don't think. I
don't think Sasquatch is silly or stupid. There's a reason,
well people, why people believe in these things. And X
files like working in X files. You know, a tops
government program. I think it's interesting. I think it would

(16:04):
be something that you know, I would start off with.
I'm trying to think of what I would start off with, don,
if this is my job, UFOs, I guess the first
thing I'm gonna do is do something simple like go
to Kincaid's cave or that area and try to identify
if the Egyptians were really here.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Oh that's a fantastic Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
You know, I thought that would be interesting. The black
pyramid underneath Alaska, I thought that would be an interesting one.
You know, that's something I would do. I'd be like, well,
I want to investigate this. I'm in charge of my
own investigation. Let's go dig deep in Alaska and find
out what this black pyramid is that's sending these like
signals into outer space. That's interesting to me. Maybe going

(16:50):
to Antarctica, which our guests, by the way, has been to,
are the Arctic and Antarctica. We can ask him what
that's like and how he got involved in doing something
like that, which is pretty cool. Commander Cobra here will
be joining us in about forty minutes. We'll be talking
about it. But these are just some different ideas of
things I'd want to do within the United States now

(17:11):
area fifty one. I think that's probably overplayed at this point. Yeah,
you know, I think that the government secret base is
an outhouse somewhere. You go into the outhouse, you go
down these steps and it's a giant base, or it's
an elevator going down right and you lean you like
you need like a little combination to use the outhouse
there and everyone's like, oh, it's a private outhouse. No,
it's an elevator to go to the secret military base.

(17:33):
People go in, They're like, how many people can you
fit into the out house? People keep going into it, right,
It's one of those things if you're spying, you're searching
on it, looking at it the whole time. But you know,
the idea that there's a secret government agency going after
and investigating, I wonder what they found if they have
like a Hangar eighteen idea where they keep all this
data like in the X files, and why would they,

(17:56):
like we talked about yesterday, would they actually keep accurate,
detailed information and or would they have like code words.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
For everything right exactly? And and you know that's that's
you know, one of the biggest questions about is who knows,
you know, because as we were discussing yesterday, I mean,
when it gets to when we start talking about, you know,
files for declassification, Yes, the the burden of proof has
to rely on some sort of evidence. So you know,

(18:23):
you get your hands on a declassified file from some
government agency or like, aha, there it is. But we
also have to keep in mind that these agencies are
very experienced in deception, they're very experienced in propaganda, and
we know that they have levied that to their advantage

(18:43):
before with u you know, supposed declassified files that have
actually just been you know, documents purposefully put out into
the public space to propagate disinformation. So you know it
that in and of itself is such a a murky
rabbit hole sort of go down, because the implication really

(19:06):
opens up a very big door for anything that we've
gotten through declassification over the last several years at all
in history.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, you know, I think that declassification of anything, if
it is legitimate, will be interesting. And I don't know
how much of it will be accurate or honest or
like we just talked about yesterday about the JFK files,
MLK files, RFK files, amongst other things nine to eleven,
maybe the Epstein report. Who knows what they'll will have
for us in the near future. But what is accurate

(19:41):
what is not? I think it's interesting, nonetheless that they
have like a UAP research. Of course they do. Don
we should have known this all long. I wonder how
long the FBI has been researching UFOs, and I wonder
if that's where the stories of X files really came from.
I guess that was my big conversation starter and topic
on the subject. And Marrow in the chat said he

(20:02):
does some juicy squatch ribs. We got Don Squatch calling
you Don Squatch in the chat right now, So like,
Don Squatch, that's your new nickname here for now on
the Don that's a new T shirt. We'll publish that
big giant bigfoot Rundown live shirt we never published. Yeah,

(20:24):
we'll I call it the Don Squatch and what we'll
put that on top of it instead of it saying
you know whatever it says on the top, the Don
Squatch is where it's at, which is funny, it's interesting. Well,
so anyways, the idea of the whole UFO phenomenon and
Project Bluebeam allegedly came from Werner von Braun on his deathbed,
whether true or not. And then he's like, they're gonna

(20:44):
use to establish a term that a lot of us
have heard before. We talked about briefly yesterday is a
new world Order, which is an Adam Weiss hopt utopian idea.
And if you don't know who Adam Weis, Hopt is
he's the guy who inspired the book called the Communist
Man offto the Bun Society, a German secret society are
also known as the League of the just Is, the

(21:06):
ones who became the first Communist Party, and of course
they were the ones that paid Carl Marx for his work,
and they took basically the Communist Manifesto and the Illuminati
Manifesto made it the Communist Manifesto. We know that because
Marvin Antlman, a Jewish rabbi, alludes to it in his
book called Illuminate the Opiate to bring and shine some

(21:26):
truth on the matter. And it's a very interesting subject.
But the term New World Order seems to be going
and going, and so I wanted to kind of talk
about this because Donald Trump is talking about unifying America, right,
the continent of North America under one nation, right absorbed Canada, Greenland,
you know, and he's trying to take Greenland by forrest.

(21:48):
I wonder if he's gonna if that's what he's gonna do,
and why Greenland is there like oil, there is there
natural resources. Why is the United States going after Greenland?

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Well, quite frankly, the most logical reason for the United
States wanting to go after Greenland is for the oil
and the resources and the minerals. I mean, it's incredibly
rich in all of those sorts of things. And I mean,
if we look back at the history of this empire,
all empires, but particularly with regard to the military conflicts

(22:20):
of this empire, that has been the primary driving factor.
Among the two primary driving factors, expanding unipolar hegemony and
also the theft of resources. I mean, imperialism, colonialism go
hand in hand with the theft of resources as a
means of control, because he who controls the resources controls everything.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Well. He wants to purchase Greenland, and the possibility of
turning Canada to US state that would be all interesting.
Trump on Greenland, I think we're going to have it.
Trump has said as fireback as twenty nineteen that he
wants us to buy Greenland, a massive Arctic island that
is an autonomy territory of Denmark. Is that why? I
wonder why Denmark? I wonder because the Vikings called it.

(23:06):
Wasn't the Vikings. It wasn't it the Vikings that gave
Greenland its name because they didn't want anyone to go.
They wanted everyone to go there, but they didn't want
them to go Iceland, so Iceland was Iceland to be misleading,
and it was actually the Greenland, and Greenland was actually
Iceland was covered in ice.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
So I'm not sure exactly the history of the naming
of the countries, but you are correct in the fact
that they were initially essentially founded by the Vikings, but
Norse explorers, so well, I guess technically, in Greenland's case,
Danish explorers, because if we're to get super like nitpicky
with the linguistics, Norse only refers to like Norwegian Vikings

(23:42):
and the Danes would be Danish. But that just goes
into you know, the usages of words and all that
sort of business.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, it's interesting. Canada would be would benefit from becoming
a US state? Trump says, I don't know. Would would
benefit from Canada becoming a United States state? Is the question?
What's the benefit to US? Trump urges Jordan Egypt to
accept more Palestinian refugees. You know, all of this stuff
is going on, but it's all the idea that he

(24:12):
wants to remember. The North American Union and the FEMA regions.
Alex Jones was always talking about everyone's like get that
tinfoil hat. Alex Jones, a New World Order, All that
stuff's not real. Well, let's talk about this for a second.
Here's a res report on this very subject.

Speaker 8 (24:31):
Eighteen years ago, the Alex Jones film Endgame warned us
of the coming North American Union as a stealth, incremental
step towards a one world government.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
It is a big idea, a new world order.

Speaker 11 (24:51):
President Bush said that the New World Order was in tune,
and that's what they were working for. The UN is
part of that government. There were right now very significantly
for a North American Union.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
That's why there's a lot of people in Washington. I
don't care too much about our borders.

Speaker 7 (25:06):
Then you think these people work on what I call
systemic methodology, meaning that you take a pie. Just imagine
you take an apple pie, and you slice this apple
pie into lots of very small pieces, and you put
in front of each one of these pieces. You're men
or woman of trust. And by controlling this individual, you
control an entire organization. And that's how you control with
very very small power based and entire global population of

(25:30):
six billion people.

Speaker 9 (25:33):
For over fifty years, the Builderberg Group constructed the European
Union by stealth under the guise of trade deals. Now
the elite are using the same secretive program to complete
the North American Union. The Builderberg Group would later admit
that their mission was the formation of the EU. Once

(25:54):
the EU was established under the guise of trade deals,
a North American Union and Asian Union would be formed.
The three interlocking superstates formed the core of the global government.
From September twelfth to September fourteenth in bamf, Canada, hundreds
of elected and appointed government leaders from Canada, Mexico, and

(26:15):
the United States met in secret. The Judicial Watch Foundations
submitted Freedom of Information Act request to obtain the full
agenda and minutes of the secret assembly. Many federal agencies refused,
citing national security. The Foundation finally succeeded and did receive
thousands of pages of documents. The pages chronicle and already

(26:37):
operating North American Union, transportation, law, enforcement, agriculture, regulation, banking, manufacturing, construction, education, immigration,
and even the military are being merged with no input
from the people or their elected representatives in Congress. In Parliament,
one of the first items on their agenda was to

(26:59):
stress how important it was that their plan quote be
carried out by stealth. The controllers also talked about exploding
the public's fears of climate change to push a continent
wide tax to fund the new government. So we're talking
about the death of Canada's what's happening in there right now?
The death of your sovereignty is happening in there right now.

(27:21):
CNN has even reported that these individuals have put out
the policy reports through the Council on Foreign Relations that
write for scholarly white papers to end the United States,
to end Canada, and to end Mexico. We went into
downtown Ottawa and talked to locals. What's your view on
losing canada sovereignty?

Speaker 4 (27:40):
I like this country to stay as it is, and
I love the United States to be there.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Man, what did you say about the American Union? It's
gonna end up happening.

Speaker 9 (27:50):
When you read human history, when you study it, all
you see is elites trying to dominate, subterfuge, Maccabellian backstabbing,
And somehow in the last fifty years they convinced Westerners
that the government's fine, can do no wrong, trust them.
How did this happen?

Speaker 10 (28:05):
It's easy to lead cheap.

Speaker 8 (28:07):
Without ever mentioning it during his campaign for obvious reasons.
President Trump is now introducing the public to the idea
of a North American Union.

Speaker 10 (28:17):
Greenland is a wonderful place we needed for international security,
and I'm sure that Denmark will.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
Come along.

Speaker 10 (28:27):
I think it's costing them a lot of money to
maintain it, to keep it. The people of Greenland are
not happy with Denmark, you know. I think they're happy
with us. We had represented as my son and representatives
one up there two weeks ago, and they're like us.
So we'll see what happens.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
But Greenland is.

Speaker 10 (28:44):
Necessary, not for us, it's necessary for international security.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
What I'd like to seek Canada become our fifty first day.
We give them protection, military protection. We don't need them
for anything. We don't need them for energy. We have
more energy than they do. We don't need that for energy.
So I'd love to see that. But some people say
that would be a long shot. If people wanted to

(29:09):
play the game.

Speaker 8 (29:11):
Right, it doesn't sound like a long shot at all.
It sounds like the North American Union, except it will
probably be called something else. And if you fight against it,
the government will ship you to a prison in El Salvador,
elon Musk says, it's the way Greg Reece reporting. The

(29:43):
REACH Report is now fully funded by my subset.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Going to go ahead and depart ya if you're a prisoner.
Interesting concept, you know. I find the whole idea all
around of a North American union kind of prophetic because
it's one step closer to a unionized world, right, a
one world government. And if a one world government has
evil leadership and goes awry, who's gonna protect us? We're

(30:09):
gonna have to stand up for ourselves. That is what
it comes down to. And this is like everything that
you know, the Christians and other religious people have thought
and claimed for years that one world government's on its way.
Werner von Braun I believe, in his deathbed made claims
of faking a UFO invasion on the planet and that

(30:32):
that would help unify the world and create a one
world government or new world order. That was the whole
idea behind global warming, amongst other things. According to many
people that were involved in the idea of global warming,
that there was a need for it to establish global government.
Why do they want global government so badly? Don What

(30:53):
is it that makes them drue? Why is it Donald
Trump's like we gotta have Canada. I want Canada and
I want Greenland. I mean, I understand Greenland. Listen, the
people are unhappy, Denmark's not doing its job.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
And if those people America that those are lies, it's yeah,
that's nothing but lies and propaganda. You know, it's there's
any excuse. I mean, hell, they they use the exact
same thing. Oh, the people of Vietnam are unhappy, we
need to go in and intervene. Oh the people of
Iraq they hate Saddam so much, we need to intervene.

(31:26):
Oh the people of Russia they hate Putin so much,
we need to interviewe. It's that's always the excuse. It's
all a bunch of bullshit.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
So are you suggesting that we're going to go in
and buy force, attack Greenland and take it over.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
I would certainly hope that doesn't happen. But I mean,
you know, when that very question was asked to Donald Trump,
you know, are you going to rule out using military force?
He didn't say no, So who knows. I mean, it's
that's probably in all honesty, probably just him playing cards
close to the vest I highly doubt that he would

(31:58):
be as in sane enough to use military force against
a NATO ally. But I mean, who knows, But the
fact of the matter remains. I mean, this is exactly
what Trump has been pushing for for a while now,
ever since talking about, oh yeah, let's make Canada the
fifty first state. We might even bring in Mexico. I mean,

(32:18):
he even assigned an executive order renaming the Gulf of
Mexico to the Gulf of America, which I shared a
pretty funny meme earlier with the picture of that says
golf of how does this make grocery prices go down?

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Well, that's just the other question a lot of people
had is how are when are we going to start
seeing some relief. To keep in mind, he's just been
in office for what a week, week and a half,
two weeks.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Well, on day two of his administration, he issued a
statement or he said in the middle of a conference
or something. Is reported by Associated Press that Trump outright
said that lowering prices and address inflation is not his
number one priority, despite the fact that that was definitely
the case on the campaign trail. But you know, bouncing

(33:06):
back to the North American Union, we put it out.
We put out an article on the Free thought project
not that long ago from Technocracy News. I believe he
was written by Patrick Wood covering this subject, says, is
Trump pursuing technocracy's dream to create the great American technique?
Recent threats by President elect Donald Trump to annex Greenland,

(33:27):
Canada and the Panama Canal and potentially Mexico fall in
line with a nearly centuries old globalist plot. And you know,
Patrick goes into highlighting how, you know, going back to
two thousand and five, the Bush administration, how George W. Bush,
Valente Fox and Stephen Harper, who were you know, respectively,

(33:48):
the heads of Mexico and Canada. You know, we're attempting
to push this and there was enough pushback at that
point in time, you know, against you know, they were
trying to push it through through things like the North
American Free Trade Agreement and things of that nature. There
was enough pushback at that time to prevent that from happening.
But you know, Trump is, you know, right in line

(34:09):
with a whole lot of this stuff that has been
going on, to the point where there's even this article
that I was able to drag up that I'll put
up here on the screen out of the Atlantic from
I believe it was from some years ago. Now, I
had to find an archive copy because of course, you know,
corporate media is dying, so they have to make everything

(34:31):
behind a paywall. Now. But the title of the article
from The Atlantic Elon Musk's anti Semitic, apartheid loving grandfather.
And while they mostly focus on Musk's grandfather's Joshua Hadelman,
they mostly focus on, you know, the fact that he
was an anti semid and you know, very much favorite apartheid,
and he was, by the words of his own friends,

(34:53):
a fascist. One of the parts that this article does
cover and sort of just glosses over, was the fact
that he involved in the Technocracy Incorporated back in the
nineteen thirties, which had a dream of creating what they
called at the time the North American Technatee, which was
a merger of the United States, Canada, and Mexico and
a couple of other locations. So this is Elon Musk's

(35:16):
own grandfather in nineteen thirty eight working on a program
that had dreams of creating a one North American Union
style merger between the US, Mexico, and Canada. So, you
know the fact that Musk is so heavily involved in
Trump's campaign and is involved in rigging politics the way
that he is, and that this is the agenda that

(35:37):
Donald Trump appears to be pursuing. Seems like it is
the globalist plot coming to fruition through the Maga administration.
As I warned people, would be the case, and as
many people and I'm not going to take all the credit,
as many many people warned would be the case if
they fell for the siop that is Donald Trump, you knows.

(36:00):
As my colleague and friend Carrie Windler put it quite well,
Trump is just conservative. Obama MAGA is literally just hope
and change.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Occupy is you know, yeah, because that was his foot
feet on the ground was occupy, remember the occupy movement.
They actually have a flag for the North American Union.
This is it. I keep seeing it all over online.
When I looked it up and I was like, oh,
there's a North American Union flag. Somebody either got creative

(36:31):
or yeah, this is you know, this could be who knows.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Because I don't know if that's official or not.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Remember the Obama flag. Then he had his own flag
that came out. You know. It's interesting. So, but the
idea of establishing global government and unifying the United States
with Canada and then maybe Mexico. It's interesting to think about.
I don't think Mexico. I think Mexico would be much
harder to commandeer versus Canada because they have all the

(37:00):
cartels down there, right, and they're they're not going to
adhere to our life if we go on there when
we got law enforcement and all of a sudden, you know,
they'd have to use force. That's what it comes down to.
Everything comes down to the our government would have to
use force.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
And that's a potential reason for I'm not saying that
is the primary reason, because of course, you know, there's
this big agenda going on right now, you know, scapegoating
the immigration issue with all of these you know, false
rhetoric of equating immigration to an evasion invasion, uh, you know,
the lies of an immigrant crime wave, which are just

(37:34):
absolutely bogus. You can look up the statistics from what
was it that I sent you earlier? I can't remember.
Let me look into my messages right now. This is
a little embarrassing that I can't remember, but that's what
it was. It was the Brennan Center for Justice. It
just took a minute from my brain.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
No, that's the right. Sometimes the hamster's running a little slow.
Some days are faster than others, exactly.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
But my point is so we can look up the
statistics from the Brennan Center for Justice and see that
all this rhetoric about an immigrant crime wave is just
absolute nonsense. It's not supported by the facts, you know.
And for the most part, this is being used to
you know, revitalize the failed war on drugs, militarize the border,
which is being used to push through biometric surveillance and

(38:20):
you know, digital ID entry, track and trace, all that
sort of nonsense. But the interesting thing is if they
want to go ahead and declare Cartels to be a
terrorist organization, that then opens the door for Trump to
use Bush era emergency declarations and authorizations of use of

(38:42):
military force to be able to use the military to
invade Mexico under the pretext of attacking the cartels and
finding the Cartels. Now, I don't know if that would happen.
Obviously it would be a very big problem internationally. Obviously
the Mexican government would be very opposed to that. It
would without a doubt lead to conflict between Mexican military

(39:03):
and US military. So let's just hope that that doesn't happen.
It does seem quite far fetched, and I don't necessarily
think it will, but you know, I guess time will tell.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Well, you know, it all depends on what kind of
disasters they cook up. They try to unify us in
the end of the at the end of the day,
in all questions, it's all like what geared towards what
will lead us down the path of globalism? Right, and
we should be scared about that, and these different ideas.
Weather modification is getting a little out of hand. We
don't know what's hampering with the weather actually does now,

(39:37):
don if you could go ahead and make it nice
and warm, let's say in your region by spraying things,
and all of a sudden, it's you know, sixty degrees
in December where it's usually ice cold, and or January,
and now we're in February here. You know, that's interesting

(39:57):
because there are there are program you can pay for
it get paid for to avoid rain, keep it sunshiny
for like weddings. You can pay a hundred thousand dollars.
They'll do cloud seating or do whatever they need to
do in order to make sure that you have a
sunny wedding. Isn't that crazy? They have a whole company.
But interesting enough, we don't know what the side effects
are of water weather modification. It's going on all over

(40:19):
the place, whether modification is and you can look it up.
The government has programs openly on their website. They're spraying
all over the place. And there's this interesting story I
caught on in full Wars today and I found it
fascinating because Japan has hit an all time record high
of snow. They got four feet of snow in twelve hours.

(40:42):
That's a lot of snow. Bro I'd be making some
killer castles in that snow, you know.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yeah, you know, that's absolutely insane. I mean, I know
there are certain portions of Japan, particularly to the north,
that do tend to get snow. I mean Mount Fuji,
it tends to get its first sprinkling of snow around October.
But I would only assume that this isn't a location
that does not get a whole lot of snow. So,

(41:10):
you know, four feet in twelve hours is just absolutely nuts.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
That is nuts. And Don Sealizar, who I met down
at the inauguration, wrote this article an unprecedented blizzards struck
Japan Tuesday, smashing records and prompting wide scale disruptions, as
many compared it to the recent snowfall bizarrely scene in
southern US states. And here you go, here's some video

(41:36):
of Look at this. This is like slow lapse of
the snow falling just bearing vehicles. I mean, look at that.
That's crazy. I mean interesting. You know it's still snowing there.
Japan hits records snow and this guy is walking and
it's up to his waist in some areas, and I
don't know. This reminds me of those stories my father

(41:58):
used to tell me who grew up in the up
Upper Peninsula where they would just take snowmobiles to school. Well,
you know, you can't take the car, so you snowmobile
to school and you still go to school even though
there's like four feet of snow. Uh. You know, it's real,
it happens. That's what they do it in Upper Peninsula.
I'm sure they do it in Alaska and Canada too.
There's like no excuse for not going to school or

(42:20):
going into work. You're taking the snowmobile. Everyone has a snowmobile. North.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yeah, that's as much as I like the cold, I
don't think I like it that much.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Check this out. Here's some videos of people diving, like
like diving into the snow.

Speaker 9 (42:37):
Here.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Let's see that again. This guy straight off the steps
and this gets completely like that's three four feet of snow.
That's pretty and it's ob I h I r Obi
Hero Japan is where there's look at all this.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
That was my next question was which prefecture it happened in.
I'm not quite sure where Obi Hero is. Check this out.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
You look at this guy's shovel and it's almost all
the way up to his shoulders. Then again, I'm not
going to say anything, but Japanese people are kind of short.
They're small people. There are a lot of times, I mean,
don't get me wrong. You know, I went to the
Asian clubs back in the day. We had one called
Asia Moon, and if I went in there, I was
like a foot taller than everyone else. You know. Well,

(43:21):
you know, it's just one of those things. And like Japan,
you got them shovel and it looks like it's deep.
I'm not quite sure how deep it really is, but
as you can see the snow as a result, of
potential weather modification. That's what people are claiming anyways, is
what's causing these elaborate and crazy weather change in patterns,

(43:42):
pattern changes in weather, and not everyone can explain it.
Maybe it's our magnetic pull shift that's causing these weather
patterns to change, or maybe we just haven't been keeping
track long enough to really know if this is a
real record or not.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Right. Well, I mean it's probably a combination of all
those things, right because I mean we have all these
you know, extreme weather events happening around the globe that
the climate alarmist crowd wants to attempt to attribute to
their doomsday climate narrative, but of course most of it
is actually attributable to either whether modification or simply the

(44:21):
fact that you know, we, as you've mentioned, have not
been keeping enough records for long enough to actually be
able to discern, you know, what is and isn't you know,
some sort of record event. Of course, there is the
poll shift that is, you know, allegedly beginning to take place.
I'm still not that informed about that subject. So that's
about all I can say about it. But you know,

(44:44):
it's it's probably you know, a new English is hard
sometimes and a number of contributing factors to these anompolies.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
All right, I mean, take a look at this four
feet of snow in Japan. Weather modification is a real thing, right.
We've talked about on the show stratospheric aerosol injections, the
spraying aluminum oxide in wells bough cloud seating, it was
aluminium oxide, and bury them salts to reflect the sun.
The military under op was it Operation Popeye. Project Popeye

(45:23):
got them monsoon season lasts longer. NASA has admitted that
they can change rain in the snow and snowing in
the rain, and hail into this rain and don't rain
in the l and do all sorts of interesting things.
I know that there was a recent and twenty fourteen
study with weather modification North Dakota. They had it raining
for two weeks straight, so they stopped, they withheld and

(45:47):
deceease the current weather modification program up there. They have
a whole government website in Texas dedicated to weather modification,
and New Mexico and Nevada. So a lot of these
drier areas are researching met weather modification. But what's the
impact around the globe is that what we're seeing now
because of stratospheric aerosol injections that the military and private

(46:09):
contractors and everything else, everyone everyone was doing to make
money to combat climate change. It wasn't really needed at all.
But here we have crazy four feet of snow in Japan,
you know.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Right, yeah, you know, so who knows, you know what
the actual cause behind it is, but I mean, yeah,
crazy stuff.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Well here's a real quick on that same subject. Here's
the news article that I wanted to get to because
I know that we have our guests joining us in
a few We have cloud seating in the UAE. Could
drow uh was it cloud seating in the UA Could
drones soon be making it rain? This is a real
news article right now.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
I mean the interesting thing about it is, uh, the
geo engineering in industry is probably its highest in the UAE.
It's either I'd probably either put money on the UAE
or China. Both of those areas, uh, you know has
such a massive geoengineering industry behind them, you know, for

(47:14):
like like you said, you know, for weddings and make
sure it's all nice and sunny for the weddings. I
know that as far back as two thousand and eight.
This is These are mainstream news articles that admit this
that China was able to use geoengineering to push away
rain from one of their big political celebrations. I can't

(47:36):
remember what it was, but something about, you know, celebrating.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
I remember the Olympics. They were spraying to prevent they
have good weather for the Olympics. They were they were
spring too, That's.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
What it was. It was the Olympics.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yeah, okay, okay, So we're on the same page. See
synchronous in the year it will check this out. This
is an article from not too long ago on the
same subject. It says, hold on here here it is

(48:08):
company offers rain free weddings for one hundred pounds. It's
two hundred thousand dollars. A luxury holiday company is offering
to use geo engineering to guarantee fairweather and clear skies
for a starting price of about two hundred thousand dollars.
And that's from ten years ago. So you know, when
we talk about these things, it isn't like, oh, we're
making this stuff up. They've been talking and doing this

(48:30):
for quite some time and probably for like I said,
since obviously Vietnam. We know about Popeye, which is Operation
Popeye or Project Popeye, and then there's other ones that
don's mentioned historically. Weather modification is something that goes on.
But the impacts are now. They're getting four feet of
snow in Japan potentially, and we're having cold forty degree
weather in Miami, Florida while I'm there, because maybe the

(48:54):
global warming gods just don't you know, they don't like me.
But you know, it was nice to come back to
Wisconsin where it was also equally as cold, like forty degrees,
and it really made no difference of us in Miami
or Milwaukee here at home. But I could have used
some global warming, thank you very much. It's just not happening.
I want it to happen so badly. Right now it's

(49:16):
cold here in Miwaka. Oh. But it's interesting, you know,
all these different subjects, these different items that are going on.
Talking about the biggest snowfall ever in Japan that's taking
place of twelve hours with four feet of snow. Incredible snowfall,
incredible snowfall, interesting stuff all around. So that being said,

(49:40):
there's a lot going on as well with military and
drones and robots. They had to fight off our face
off with drones versus robodog and the UK Sun covered it.
It was pretty interesting. How long before robots do the
fighting for US in the military, and I'm sure they're
already using them at some level, but this is the US,
excuse me not the UK son Future of war. Watch

(50:03):
drone an armed robot robo dog fight to the desk,
sparking fears of first machine war, you know, like, what
is it? We had Terminator Vinney's Black. They had the
good old movie where you know, deals with time travel
and the guy comes back in the future worrying about
you know, the future and how they could change it.
Came back to kill was a John O'Connor, and obviously

(50:26):
he failed. But here we go, We're gonna have some
video of what is actually a robot dog and a
drone facing off and doing battle because here you go
check this out. That's just crazy. I mean, that's crazy
cool if you ask me, that's insane. Man, No, man,
it's totally insane. What's with this ad here? All right? Anyways?

(50:48):
Crazy stuff? You know, robots are coming their way, won't
belong to well, the exoskeletons and you know, super soldiers
with chips in their brain or the brain cloud interface
and the sharing consciousness and memories and everything else. The
future is really interesting, especially when it comes to synthetic
telepathy and all these different things the military is working

(51:09):
on and the way the future is going. But I'm
really excited to bring on our next guest. We've had
a lot of people on from Kgira and all over
the United States as a citizen journalist platform run news outlet.
We've also had musicians and artists and people of all
walks of life. But the Commander Cobra who we're having
on as an ex military vet. He grew up and

(51:31):
now resides in New England on a farm with his
best friend and wife several animals in the woods of Maine.
Career aviator for the US Military, served with all the
branches except for the Space Force, performing mission operations, flight instruction,
and test operation. He currently works as a contractor for
the Department of Defense as a pilot and engineer. His

(51:54):
assignments have taken him globally, including to the Arctic and Antarctic, Asia,
West Asia, and the United States. I want to welcome
to the show, Commander Cobra. Welcome to the Rundown Live.
Thank you for joining us today. What a great pleasure
to have you on. And I got to ask you,
how did you get involved in all this? What made
you join the military? Did you just want when they

(52:16):
wake up and that's what you wanted to do, or
you play with g I Joe Dolls at a very
young age. Oh you're you're muted, cabin Commander Cobra here
on your end, dare.

Speaker 6 (52:28):
I didn't want to cause any problems.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
When I caused a problem, it happens all the time,
don't worry about it. But how did you get involved
in the military.

Speaker 6 (52:37):
I didn't have the Gi Joe Dolls, just wasn't part
of it.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
But I was about probably three three and a half,
fairly distinct early memory, and I saw a skyrider that
was over my grandparents' house and you know, printing out
whatever the advertisement was. And from that point on I
was kind of fused that I wanted to be in
a pilot to fly, and my dad was in the

(53:02):
Air Force. He wasn't a pilot, but I just always
wanted to go to the military, always wanted to be
a pilot.

Speaker 6 (53:09):
Was there were some.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
Hurdles to get passed for me to have it happened,
and I was just very very blessed that it worked
out the way it did. So I started out in
the Air Force. I was there for the Air Force
plus six years. I was sixteen with the Coast Guard.
That Coast Guard time, I spent a great deal of
it on joint assignment with the Navy, so I was

(53:32):
very very interesting career. When I retired, I very rapidly
went into working as a contractor in flying capacity places
like North Macedonia, going up into Kosovo, down in South America,
and also in the Mid East for Iraq, for OIF
and oef SO, and along there opportunities came to do

(53:57):
to fly an explane, which was extremely exciting and surprisingly
not the best paying job, but it was a great
experience to do and been very very fortunate to do that.

Speaker 6 (54:11):
Still fly, not nearly as.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Much as I wish and want. The current project'm on,
I'm not flying nearly as much, but I still keep
my hand in. Now, before you go, Chris, I just
wanted to throw in a couple of things you talk
about Popeye Operation Popeye. I had a professor in college who,
when he was a young physics student, worked on part
of the weather programs that they were working during Vietnam,

(54:37):
and the expression popeye when you're flying means that you're
flying in the plane in and out of cloud tops.
That's where that expression comes from. That's where the name
for popeye comes from, at least in part.

Speaker 6 (54:50):
That's the reason why they did interesting.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Well, it's very interesting. So what's book camp like? You
get there on your first day, what did you expect? Like?
I had curious what was that experience like? Do you
remember I.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
Was in an officer training program when I was in college,
so my boot camp, I think, was pretty relaxed. They
sent us up to an Air Force base that's now
closed in upstate, New York, and we had a four
week encampment during the college years. Once a week I
had a classes that were just dedicated to military science subjects,

(55:26):
and then on the weekends we did our drilling, you know,
marching parade stuff. And when I went to Plattsburgh Air
Force Base, we had our encampment there, which was probably
the closest to a boot camp, you know, getting you
up early, keeping you up, you know. One of the
most humors and probably fun things was you knew a

(55:47):
lot of things to do, meaning you had to set
your room up a certain way, so your your bed
had to be made a certain way, your socks and
your clothing had to be in drawers a certain way.
You had to have everything on your hangers a proper
distance apart. So everybody kind of knew this, and you
would put pencil marks and stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
Many of us would.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
Have clothes that we would never use, so that we
always had our display clothes perfect for the inspections because
they could come in every day and there was serious
inspections and light inspections, and really the idea of that
is to get you thinking cohesively as a team, but
also to look at details.

Speaker 6 (56:27):
So I was pretty excited. First inspection, I did really well.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
I got very few demerits, so it looked like I
wasn't going to get stuck with extra duties that were unpleasant,
and I didn't touch anything because everything was good. Right.
So the next inspection I get like a dozen and
a half, and I was dumb enough to go to
my tack officer and say, how can that be? He goes, well,
you did really good on the first one, but I

(56:51):
went in and undid all the buttons on your shirts
that were hanging in the closet, all the stuff I
pulled your pockets out of your pants, And what he
was teaching me was that, yeah, you want to be
an aviator. So yeah, you check the plane on Monday
and you're not going to check it again until Friday
or the following week. Could something have changed, because you know,
it was the attention to detail there and there's no

(57:13):
easy way out of it. And that's once you kind
of understand what that game and it really is, it's
a game that you're doing. Then you start to you know,
figure out, Okay, how do I survive? How do I
prevail in it? And then what am I trying to
be taught? And that's you know, at the early ages,
in my early twenties, that probably wasn't as readily appreciated.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
As it is.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
But you know, boot camps for are enlisted folks are
much more structured, much tougher than I think in general.
Probably on equivalent is the folks that go to the
military academies. They definitely they play a full court game.
Their first year is very very demanding in that aspect,
and their entry into the academies is very demanding as well.

(57:55):
But again it's the it's the coding of trying to
get you to think cohesively team wise, your team is
more important than yourself.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
That kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 (58:04):
So I really thrived in it.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
I liked it, and I was very, very fortunate, and
I think every American taxpayer because I really appreciated the
opportunity to go and do the kind of stuff that
I did.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Yeah, it's fascinating and interesting, which leads us into one
of the top articles we have of the day. And
we found it interesting is that they're basically just admitting
that there's like a whole x files segment of the
FBI essentially to go and they investigate UAPs amongst everything else.
You're part of a great program on KGRA called UAP Crossfire.

(58:43):
Maybe we could talk about how you got interested in
the UAP phenomenon, amongst other things. I know we had
a couple different ideas of why we wanted to bring
you on, including what happened and it was in upstate
New York with the helicopter and airplane and there's all
these conspiracies around it. But I think this is a
good starting spot, you know, so here it is for

(59:03):
anyone that's just joining us, right now there is an
article out there. Excuse me, let me hear I pulled
up the wrong one. Here. There's an article out there
about Donald Trump and DOGE, which is a Department of
Government Efficiency wanting to shut down or potentially shut down
a secretive FBI group probing UFOs and they're worried that

(59:26):
it's going to get purged. First of all, I didn't
know that the FBI had their own little fox molder
and you know Dana Scully. But doesn't surprise me, And
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the stories that
came on TV shows like The X Files, those ideas
came from potential real government operations, as quite often it
seems to be the case that there's an influence there

(59:48):
when these great TV programs are created. But it's interesting
to me that the government actually now admits that the
FBA has a group that probes UFOs.

Speaker 6 (59:57):
No surprise to me.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Wouldn't surprise me if it's not efficient, if it's not
really getting results or what's happening with it. Unfortunately, with
a lot of these programs that are not in public purview,
money gets sent to and then money goes someplace else, and
that is probably the number one issue that you're going
to see probably parade in the press and multimedia over

(01:00:23):
the next couple of months, because we just have kind
of lost control of it. We've lost control of who
is telling whom what they're doing. And I am all
about the secrecy and the intelligence protections that are required
to do the kinds of missions that we need to

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do in our military. I'm not I would never divulge
anything that I knew unless I thought it was unlawful
because people lives hang in the balance of what we're doing.
We have bad things that are happening all over the world,
and we tend to try to have our folks way
way out on the end of the point the stick
to try to protect us. But when you see something

(01:01:05):
like this come up, a bunch of things come up
up on it, partially intel in my background as a
collateral duty. So one of the things I always ask
is the source of this? You know, how do they
they bring this up? Who's talked about it? It's interesting
with this president. Almost any headline generates something that he'll

(01:01:25):
put on some x Twitter X file nope and pun
and tendants of the X file, or he'll put it
in Truth Central or something like that. I've often said that,
out of all the presidents we've had, on his first administration,
I thought this one. I thought President Trump would probably
be the most likely to open stuff up.

Speaker 6 (01:01:49):
As opposed to others, because he's not an insider.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
He's not playing any of the games that's on there,
and you could run the whole gamut of it. If
we have alien technology, extraterrestrial alien technology reverse engineering it,
that means everybody on the planet's playing that game. And
if you don't have it, other countries are going to
try to penetrate your your intelligence capabilities as best they

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can to get that technology, especially company companies and governments
that are able to successfully reverse engineer it. If you
look at the PRC, they are the masters, absolute masters
of grabbing disgruntal employees loose intelligence networks that I'm secure

(01:02:32):
and producing very quickly. After you have spent billions to
produce something, they're throwing it out.

Speaker 6 (01:02:38):
And of course, under their.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
Particular system, they don't really give a crap about their people.
So if they decide they're going to build one hundred
of these, they're going to build one hundred, and if
ninety work they don't care about the crews that are
killed in ten aircraft because they have lots of people
and it's the collective and all that other happy horseshit
that goes along with that. So you can see that

(01:03:01):
if you have I would not be surprised that almost
every agency would have some component looking at all these things.
And the reason being is every agency competes for budget
every agency competes for positioning, so you want to at
least know what other people are doing. So if the
Defense Intelligence Agency is really deep into uap UFO recovery

(01:03:26):
and studies, there's going to be at least other intelligence
agencies that are going to try to at least keep
track of what they're doing so that they don't fall
too far behind. And if they can get a breakthrough
and they can first one into the White House to say,
look what we found. That's protection, that's budgetary growth, whatever.
So doesn't surprise me. Second thing when these articles come out,

(01:03:49):
one of the most celebrated and hottest topics out there
is crowdsourcing for intelligence. Crowdsourcing means three guys like us
with six or seven other people without security clearances are
sitting in front of a computer and we're just scanning
to see where people are going. What are you looking
at it? X? How many people looked at that article

(01:04:10):
that you just put up? And then what's the chatter afterwards?
Who did they send it to? Are they sending it
to their Facebook? Who on their Facebook.

Speaker 6 (01:04:18):
Is looking at it?

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
It's open source intelligence, crowdsourcing, and it's amazing and it's
obvious that many things that are being put into our
media streams are to track where it's going. A few
years back, the Pope was scheduled to come to the
United States according to sources. Of course, in this media
world we live in, somebody says it, no one checks it,

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and fourteen people repeat it, and then they'll also embellish
it a little bit going down the line. But if
you are interested to figure out who's interested if the
Pope did arrive, i e. People that would maybe another
assassination attempt, you know, cause the Internet uproar on it.

(01:05:02):
This is a way to gather where the discussion on
the media, the new media, the social media is going.
And you have people again that do not have to
have big time clearances, don't have to have expensive setups.
They're just getting paid and they're doing what they love.
They love surfing the media, and they love putting at

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reports and digging deeper, and you give them a bonus
if they find something really good. That's pretty good stuff.
I think that's a lot of things you're going to see.
You're going to see a lot of articles. And of
course there's always the spoilers out there. They're going to
put information out that is purposely trying to throw you
off the track. It's absolutely deception. It is absolutely decided.

(01:05:44):
I always use this line. While you're looking at my
hand here, my other hand is in your pocket taking
your wallet out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
That's how I get Don's money.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
You know it's interesting that you mentioned all these different
psyops with meta data madea data collection. I know that
I've often talked about the meaning of the words we
talk or metatron or a collection of data. Who are you?
What are you? What is meda data? It's the new oil,
it's the new gold. Why are we giving it up

(01:06:17):
for free? But it can be used in a lot
of different ways, including to project the future. AI components
can take the data, understand the data, give you assistant
threat score, social credit scores, try to figure out, like
you mentioned, what your interests are, who's interested in this
topic and all their ties together they have a whole

(01:06:38):
programs based on this. So I got to ask you,
how did you get interested in this UAP phenomenon. Was
it a personal experience? Was it something that you heard
or were you just like me? You're like well, for me,
I was giving a presentation at the University of Milwaukee,
Wisconsin on indigenous effigy mounds which had really large skeletons
of humans in them, between nine and eighteen feet tall.

(01:07:00):
And I had Chase Kletchka at the back of the
room and she introduced herself. You know, had to move
on at the time. So have you had interest in
this top subject topic? I joined moufon and I became
a field investigator. That didn't last long because you know,
the organization is cool, it's neat, and you learn a
lot from it. It just did it. It wasn't my thing.
It was just was my thing, you know, but it

(01:07:21):
was very interesting and that's how I got interested in
this after, you know, having her book set on my shelf.
I read it after it started to get popular and
I started to go, well, it's kind of egotistical to
think that we're the only life out there that mathematically
it's way more sound that life colonizes planet than us
coming from it raining on the rocks for millions and
billions of years. So for me, it was like, oh, okay,

(01:07:45):
evolution a slow period of time, you know, seven eight
years until I was like, what Chase is right? Like,
I had to think on it, and you know, I
started talking to other people. More and more people were like, yeah,
this is a very good possibility that where this planet
was seated, life was seated here. Not saying that's what happened,
just it just makes sense. So for me that was

(01:08:05):
my little spiel on it. But how how the hell
did you get into all this?

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
So the first part I have to thank my dad.
My dad was crazy growing up in the Massachusetts area.
I'm an early sixties baby, so it was prime time,
you know, right after the Mercury seven. My dad was
crazy about space stuff, and then the UFO phenomena really

(01:08:30):
hit magazines, all the books. In fact, I wish I
had most of those paperback books that he had. So
I grew up in a household that was interested because
of my dad in the subject. I have taken. I
took trips very very young aged places like Exeter where

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there was reports because my dad was curious to go
to those places and they were within very short driving
distance of where we live where I grew up.

Speaker 6 (01:08:59):
So that's star art.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
It Also my parents, although very i would say very
conservative Catholics, for the most part, did not see this
as incompatible with our religious beliefs.

Speaker 6 (01:09:14):
And if you really truly read.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
The Bible, there's a lot of the stuff that you
talked about that kind of fits in the Bible. There's
a lot of interesting things in there that describe UFO extraterrestrial.

Speaker 6 (01:09:28):
Type entities in that so none of that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
Was incompatible that you know, again, critical mind to look
at it, so that started it. I was always very
interested in it. I have been in some.

Speaker 6 (01:09:44):
Of the most lonely, desolate parts of this globe.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
If anybody should have got the free ride or the kidnapping,
the abduction, it should have been me because I wanted
to go. That's why I'm not ever going to get
the opportunity. I think that's how that works. You're not
supposed to be somebody that did. But I was in
places in Antarctica by myself in a helicopter, you know,
bringing gear or dropping it off in these dry valleys

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in Antarctica, probably no other person had been there in millennia,
easily and absolutely fantastic place. By the way. Nothing I've
been on lonely, lonely roads all over the United States.
I'm always looking. I'm always keeping my eyes out. Only
very recently, with about six years ago, I saw something

(01:10:32):
in the sky that did not add up.

Speaker 6 (01:10:34):
The way the light moved.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
It appeared to be in a fixed position and then
accelerate where I was southern New England, an area just
south of Baby, the Hudson Valley area, which had a
lot of famous activity. It was a very busy night
on the roads. It wasn't a super good weather night.
But having the aviator background, I can't help but always
look at an aircraft and finally wish I was flying it,

(01:10:59):
or you know, ritically analyzed what the pilot's doing. That's
what pilots do. They wish they were flying when they're
not flying. And then when you're not flying, you like
to score the other guy our gals card. That's just
that's just the nature of how we operate. So that
really is the is the background along the way, I've
met other people that were interested. Mac maloney many years
back started the show and he had me on. Very

(01:11:23):
funny was Commander X in those days until we found
out some guy actually had Commander X as an actual
trademark name and sent us a letter to cease and
desist using Commander X. I don't know what he does
because I've never seen any place else but that Mac
started that, and then that's what we came up with,
Command of Kob. It's a play on my on, my name,
my call sign when I'm not wearing the sunglasses on

(01:11:46):
on on a podcast.

Speaker 6 (01:11:48):
So he wrote a lot of interesting books.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
In fact, two of his books about UFOs in Wartime
I urge anybody if you haven't picked them up mccloney's
books UFOs in Wartime with they Don't Want You to Know,
absolutely phenomenal work there. So I met like people and
when I espectually got to the part of retirement, I
really had the opportunity to start digging into this deeper.

(01:12:13):
And it's a great network of people. That's the other thing.
The vast majority people I've met connected with this are
really really good souls globally YEP, there's some really strange things,
like certain parts of the UFO UAP community don't want
to talk about Bigfoot, and I've got bigfoot people that
don't want to talk about u folks.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Well, it's like forgat it's like, look, I have they
have all like the as like three hundred different types
of aliens in it, and I'm like, how do you
know what religion they are and where they're from and
what's a galactic federation of light? And like who comes
up with this? I'm not saying there's like listen, I'm
not saying that like this isn't real. But I'm saying
this isn't real.

Speaker 6 (01:12:50):
Okay, Like, yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
I get that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Of course.

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
The other part is if you ever try to bring
the paranormal aspect into this, then you really are shaking
up the the gut together. There's a lot of fractures there.
I tend to be a person who thinks that we
are looking at intersections of all of those activities.

Speaker 6 (01:13:10):
You know, you have UFOs, you have people that have.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
Fantastic paranormal type what you would almost call ghosts and
spirit kind of things go on. Bigfoots a peer cryptids
appear there's a lot of things into that. I think
it actually intersects more than its separate categories. I think
Einstein trying to come up with the unified field theory
probably fits our communities more than others, because you're crossing

(01:13:40):
into another area of physics that we just don't completely
understand yet.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
Yeah, that's where I usually tend to lean on the
subject because, like I've made that observation that you know,
it seems like a lot of these fields and a ufology, cryptozoology, paranormal, like,
they all sort of exist within their own little bubbles,
and there's a typically a lot of resistance to like
cross those boundaries, you know, in between them. But me

(01:14:06):
just my own personal philosophy, you know, I look at
all life as being interconnected, you know, just just on
a grand scale. You know, it's us with our environment
and people existing within the ecosystem and all that sort
of things. But you know, if we take that macrocosm
and sort of dial it down into a microcosm, I
think the same obviously, in my opinion at least very

(01:14:27):
much applies to all these sorts of things, you know,
the paranormal, the UFOs, the cryptozoology, these don't exist as
isolated incidents on some sort of spectrum. There is an
interconnectedness with these things, because there's an interconnectedness with everything
and with all life and with all phenomenon on some level.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
Agreed completely, and I don't think that everything that we
do here ends when we moved, when we slipped this
mortal coil.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
So, again, compatible with my religious beliefs, I wouldn't go
to a church that that felt that I'm not going
to see my departed beloved pets from my my childhood
all the way and that I've seen that as a huge, uh,
really aggravating people.

Speaker 6 (01:15:11):
I remember, you know the first time was brought. Oh no,
you know, piles.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Don't have souls, yet.

Speaker 6 (01:15:20):
Their souls are purer than a lot of people that
I know, So you know, I don't. I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
I don't buy into My easy way to sum this
up is I don't buy in putting any kind of
limits on what God in my in my terminology, the
ultimate architect of what we're having. I don't have any limits,
and that includes life on other plants. That that that's it.
It does not make sense that you think this is

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the only part of it. And then The counter is, well,
it's not in the Bible. I think if you look
close enough, I think it is. I have to show
people parts that that that that indicate that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
Yeah, it's interesting because I don't disagree with you. I
think the idea that there was a war in the
heavens right that the esoteric books, the twenty two books
they pulled out of the Bible, a lot of them
talk about, you know, the war in the heavens, the
losing team coming here, colonizing the planet, the team that
whooped its butt came here and then created man in
a petri dish, much like we were talking about yesterday.
Show lab grown sperm and you get designed children. Well,

(01:16:16):
maybe they designed humans, created us to meet us in
charge of the planet. Who knows. It's interesting not only that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
We're talking we've done such a great job. Oh yeah,
and you want to know something that that's really fascinating
about that. It's like we see that myth repeated in
so many various different beliefs. You know, when I when
I hear about the war in the heavens, obviously I
think about you know what Christan has discussed multiple times.
You know, the things mentioned in the Bible. I also
think about because I've been a student of theology for
about twenty years now, since I was a kid, have

(01:16:43):
just been really interested in history and religion. I've read
the Mahabarata and the Boggy vot Giza. So in the
Hindu faith, you know, we have those things as well.
And even in my faith, I'm a very devout Norse pagan,
and you know, we look through Norse law and whatnot.
We even have mentions of, you know, the war between
the Ossia the gods and the vond the gods, and
at the end of that they spit into a cauldron

(01:17:05):
to sort of, you know, symbolize their union. And you know,
when the gods spit into this cauldron, it creates a
man named Cavassier, which is, you know, supposedly the wisest
human to have ever lived. So you know, it's all this,
All these religions have this very symbolic similar story to
one another, and it's it's incredibly fascinating. In my opinion,

(01:17:26):
he certainly can't be a coincidence. There's there's something there
that connects all of it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
So you mentioned that you've flown to Antarctica, I wanted
to pick your mind real quick on the idea that
there's megalithic structures underneath the ice there when you're there,
like people are saying that there's pyramid shape forums. There
has to in my opinion, like there's a good chance
that maybe Atlantis was Antarctica, and due to cranial shifts

(01:17:52):
or other things, it's a possibility that it got frozen over.
There was a great delusion at one point, like there's
one hundred thirty cities at the bottom of the are
civilizations at the bottom of the Mediterranean, Where did all
the water come from? Things shifted so things changed. Antarctica
could be Atlantis and there could be megalithic structures. What's
your thoughts. Do they know that there's megalithic structures at

(01:18:14):
the bottom of Antarctica or do you think.

Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
That experience that's three I made three deployments down to Antarctica.
I circumnavigated the continent once. I didn't penetrate it very much,
got down to the cell phold just a couple of times,
and that was more of a ceremonial kind of flight.
So to understand Antarctica is to understand that you're talking
in some places six seven, eight, nine thousand feet of

(01:18:40):
ice you miiled up on top of the surface of
that continental area. So that's the first thing you have
to consider. The second part is if we do have
structures there, and I have no proof, just like I
have no proof that FEMA put camps down there and
other activities that have all been attributed to it, just

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never experienced, never met anybody who whispered it.

Speaker 6 (01:19:05):
I have endless funny stories.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
Of Antarctica to go from the experience of just being
with people, but nothing in this realm.

Speaker 6 (01:19:14):
But it is easy to believe.

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
With shifting weather patterns because climate change is a thing.
I just don't believe that man is having the effect
that's being put up out.

Speaker 6 (01:19:26):
But the climate is in constant change.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
I mean medieval times, places like England and northern Europe
had the temperatures of what you were looking for when
you were in Florida, when you were in Miami, that
was the going temperatures thing. So I didn't see anything.
But I think two things are happening. Weather changes will

(01:19:48):
allow us to see more of Antarctica. But realized that
with that kind of level of ice is probably a
good chance that you're going to see things that have
been somewhat crushed. But hold on for that second. I'll
I'll give you one more piece of that. The other
part is if we start to look for resources. We
have developed engineering now that allows it to be somewhat

(01:20:10):
practical to go for minerals, to go for activity. Now
currently it's under treaty not to do that, but we
all know that treaties don't normally last. They're not really
worth the paper they're written on. It really is what's
behind the tree. Reason I said on that building up
of ice World War two Greenland, we've had a number

(01:20:32):
of airplanes that landed on the ice shelf because they
ran out of fuel, got lost, mechanical problems. There's the
very famous P thirty eights that landed and they found
them thirty thirty five years later using ground radar. They
actually tunneled down, put people down. Then they melted the

(01:20:53):
ice all around where the airplane was, and the planes
were in such shape that they were worth taking apart
and bringing up the sections, the wings, the fuselages, the
booms to P thirty eighth. They reassembled them and they
were worth In fact, one of the airplanes that's out
there is called Glacier Girl. That's where she got her
name because she landed on that glacier. So that should

(01:21:15):
tell you that there's some possibility of recovering or finding
things if we get to that point. It would not
surprise me in the least. We think we know. What
we don't realize is that we will never appreciate what
we don't know. We will never sit there and go.
It's sort of like the guy who says I'm an expert.

(01:21:36):
I'm always worried when I get around someone who says
they're an expert. I prefer the really, really smart person
I think as an expert that says I am still
figuring stuff out, I'm still learning this stuff. That's just
I think the nature of the approach. So yeah, I
think Antarctica has a lot of possibilities. Didn't see a thing,

(01:21:57):
did not see a thing?

Speaker 3 (01:21:59):
What I find thing about Antarctica and just the possibility of,
you know, what we could potentially discover there. So when
we look at strange historical anomalies like the Peri Raus map,
for example, which most cartographers and experts quote unquote have

(01:22:20):
essentially come to a consensus that the perie Raus map
was constructed by copying much much older source maps that
go back, you know, even longer, which for people that
don't know, the peri Raus map was a map made
by a Turkish admiral named period Rais and about the
fifteen hundreds. And the interesting thing about this map, at

(01:22:42):
least with regard to this conversation, is that it shows
Antarctica without any ice on it, and at the time,
allegedly Antarctica hadn't been discovered yet. It is the official
narratives that Antarctica was discovered in the eighteen hundreds, sometime
about in the eighteen hundreds. What I've find interesting about
that is that it shows its Antarctica as having these

(01:23:05):
very lush jungles, and we know now from some of
the latest scientific research, at about fifteen million years ago
Antarctica was in fact a very lush rainforest. And so
it's just these little anomalies that I find really interesting that,
you know, lends potential credence to the idea that you know,

(01:23:28):
there might be something they're worth looking into.

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
Oh absolutely, Now a couple One interesting thing I always
like when I have discussion, do you understand where the
word Antarctica comes from.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
I noticed that it has anti in it, much like
Atlantis or Ante okay, Atlantic.

Speaker 4 (01:23:45):
And that may and that that also has a possible
tie in Arctica. The name for the north is based
on ersa majurist, the constellation of the mother and baby bear.
So the Greeks named the northern regions Arctica for their
words for bear, ant being not not Antarctica land not

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of the bear. Interesting side note, polar bears are only
in the northern hemisphere.

Speaker 6 (01:24:14):
No polar bears and Antarctica.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
I always thought that was kind of an so much
a coincidence that I'm not sure is a coincidence. We
know that the Greeks and the Polynesians and probably a
couple of the others definitely had explored and been in
areas much further south, and I think this is where

(01:24:41):
a lot of the map information came from. I think
if they approached it, especially on the outer edges down
by South America, down by Africa, they would have seen that.
And if it was the end of the period. The
only thing that I don't have a really good reference
is looking at the time when week started, when European

(01:25:02):
man started to really arrive in Antarctica, and they were
really driven there because they were whaling. That was the
big activity that drove them into this area. Is that
you don't find evidence of the reported far station that
was there.

Speaker 6 (01:25:19):
I have seen.

Speaker 4 (01:25:22):
Fossilized wood there in Antarctica. It's actually pretty easy to
find if you know where to, if you go with
the scientists that can show you where it's at and
you pick it up and you realize, while I'm looking
at petrified wood, so that's not There were parts that
I went with scientists where they had they were recovering
meteorites that had hit and melted into the ice, and

(01:25:45):
they you know, when they would get a little bit
of melting, they would dig in and pull them out.
Absolutely amazing. I still can't believe that they figure out
how to pop one into my pocket. I was so
amazed that I was looking and helping people recover meteorites
that were in the ice. I I completely missed my opportunity.
But there is very interesting stuff around both the North

(01:26:07):
and the South. But I think a lot is held
in Antarctica that is yet to be revealed. And because
of our crazy geopolitical situation, we're gonna we're gonna fight
over every scrap of that as well. Now, if you're
going to bring up the part about the Operation High

(01:26:27):
Jump Jump, yeah, I don't think we fought a battle
down there with ets. I don't think we fought a
battle with Nazis that relocated down there. I just don't
see anything that lends me to believe that you could
cover that up that well. But who knows. I could
be wrong, but I didn't see anything to kind of

(01:26:48):
back it up.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
How do we lose like fifteen ships in Operation High Jump?
That's what was interesting. Who knows what the real purpose
was down there? Maybe you know who was the Admiral
byrd led that.

Speaker 6 (01:27:00):
Bird, that's correct, you know, And he he had.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
Some weird things to say about the true North and
South Pole. Whether that's accurate or not, I don't know.
I just uh, you know, there's all these lore and legends,
just like they have the leg was at the North Pole,
they have the yetti. You know, where do these legends
come from? Do people see weird things because they're out
in the snowy Is it of a polar bear they
don't know in the north or is it something down

(01:27:22):
in art? God? Do they have like any uh, let's say,
a paranormal activity and claims that people see certain things
while they're down there.

Speaker 4 (01:27:30):
I've never heard anything come up from Antarctica where people now,
obviously there has been some things about people that have perished,
you know, in structures and in camps. I think that's
almost a common human experience and I think there's a.

Speaker 6 (01:27:45):
Lot of validity to that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
If you ever look at the ghost stories of airmen
UH in Britain, in UK there are some absolutely amazing
stories of airman network killed World War One, the anter
war years, you know, walking around being seen people walking
from one building to the other at night, seeing a
guy and fairly old garb they're curious, they fall and

(01:28:09):
he goes into a building. They follow him into the building,
he's not there. Goes into a hall and he's not there.
So there's a lot of that, not much that I
can actually put my finger on for Antarctica that you know,
that war that's there partially because you have a very
cyclical lifestyle there. You have a small group of people
that stay over our summer, which is their winter in

(01:28:30):
the southern hemisphere, so you usually have a very small
group and that's really there to keep the place from
not burning down and making sure that you don't you know,
that you don't damage your infrastructure. Then in our winter,
which is summer in the in the Southern hemisphere, that's
when it swallows up. You have large numbers of people
to get down there, you know, scientists mainly, and then

(01:28:52):
you have all the support people, the people that are
you know, providing all the everything from the cooking and
cleaning to all the activity. These to run the sites
to make them work, people that run the flights, the
flights that are coming back and forth from primarily for us,
from New Zealand where we have our detachments, and that's
when the numbers swell. So you don't have that constant experience.

(01:29:15):
You do have people that suffer from isolation. NASA studies
the people down at the Sealth Pole who winter over
for the Sealth Pole. They've studied them for decades because
they are wandering how do you find compatible people for
long term space flight? And it's a really good place
for doing that because they're very, very isolated.

Speaker 6 (01:29:34):
No one can get to them.

Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
As you remember years back when the doctor that was
at the South Pole needed to be lifted out because
of her cancer diagnosis, and they had to way to
a very specific period and it was a very risky
mission that got her out because they just normally do
not go. You're down there for a couple months with
no contact.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
Yeah, it's interesting only like fictional story or mytholog or folklore.
Story I heard about in Arctica was the organism forty
six meters where it was like an octopus that can
control people's brains underwater, which was a prominent like fictional
story I think that was told and the urban legends
that come from Antarctica. That was one of them. That

(01:30:17):
they drilled into the ice and they got some thirty
three foot long aquatic like octopus like creature that could
read people's minds and make them go insane.

Speaker 6 (01:30:25):
So do they know is reading his minds?

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
How do they know? I don't know. That's interesting is
they said mind control, mind control is controlling people's minds
or whatever. It was something of that nature. It was
a cephalopod or something like that. There's some generic you know,
sorry who.

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
Happened prehistoric findings down there that were buried in the
ice that were sea creatures that are absolutely amazing. You
just throw that into any search engine, you'll be amazed.

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
And was it the first giant squid discovered an intent
arctor or.

Speaker 4 (01:30:56):
I believe it was as well as the Russian that
when they did their they're drilling down through the ice
to get to a lake and there was a big
under the ice lake.

Speaker 6 (01:31:07):
There was a lot of.

Speaker 4 (01:31:10):
Angst about that because they didn't want that water to
become infected with the surface, because you're going to forever
change it. But also to see the water, to sample
that water and to bring that water in would tell
you a lot because it's kind of been locked in
time to some extent on that. The same thing with
the ice coring out they do in the north, the
northern the Arctic regions, they do a lot of ice

(01:31:32):
coring going in Greenland up on the ice packs as well.
I did a lot of support flying scientists doing that.
And then they look at the course and it's absolutely amazing.
It's like looking at the rings of a tree. You
can see all kinds of different things are happening in
the atmosphere all the way, you know, going down as
far as you can get to the bottom of it,
getting the bottom of the ice, not the bottom of everything.

(01:31:53):
I didn't mean to a double n times for there.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
Well, there's whole ecosystems in the bottom of the ice
that may have never been disturbed, you know, Like, so
we don't know what kind of prehistoric you know, animals
or you know, beings could be underneath in those giant
lakes and reservoir reservoirs underneath the ice and glaciers. So,
you know, Antarctica is the interesting subject and we don't
really have or had a lot of time or opportunity

(01:32:17):
to talk to anyone about it who's been there. So
it's great to talk to you because you you've actually
been to Antarctica. To they like, so, what's it like
you're flying to Antarctica? You land, It isn't like a
giant resort, right, No, but.

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
No, so people, The way I got there is I
was on a ship, okay, ship the coast. Oh well,
it takes us two and a half months, two months
to get down there. We spent about two two and
a half months breaking nights. Our whole mission on that
ship is to break a channel so that you can
get the resupply ship in. And the resupply ship does
two things. It brings in all the material for the

(01:32:51):
remaining of that season, plus the winter over and enough
to open up the season the following spring, and it
takes all the garbage and trash out because one of
the things that we try to do is not damage Antarctica,
so you'll recycle or pull out almost everything. Very little

(01:33:12):
is left in Antarctica. They do their absolute very best
not to damage it by leaving behind. Now we were
always acting that way. There are places where, in fact,
one of the missions that my aviation unit I wasn't
on it, but one of my aviation units they went
and picked up drums that were left over from a

(01:33:34):
nineteen fifties expedition out of site that had bad materials
left in them, and they didn't want to leave them
there because it would have leaked and caused problems. So
we've definitely are getting to become better. Steward's always room
for improvement there. So the aviation detachment of my days
on the icebreaker. Once we got within range, we would

(01:33:54):
fly off and base off at McMurdo, which is the
largest of the bases, and it's the US base, and
we would set up shop. It's easier for us to
operate off from the base and support what the ship
is doing. Plus move people around in the science community
and get things set up. So those are the two
things going on now there are at that base. There

(01:34:19):
were nightclubs of sorts, there were bars, There was lots
of great activities that went on. Absolutely phenomenal, beautiful stuff.
You do see penguins in that center picture right above
our heads.

Speaker 6 (01:34:34):
That's an emperor penguin that's there. They're the ones that
are about two to three feet and some of them
get so used to people they actually start to act
like domestic chickens. They're not afraid of you, and they'll
come up because they're looking for something, looking for a handout.
And I will have anybody in your audience.

Speaker 4 (01:34:51):
Who's really interested to look up the photojournalist noorb Wu
Wu norb Wu some of the finest documentary photography work
I've ever seen down there. Just phenomenal stuff. He was
just absolute a great guy to work with, beautiful pictures.

Speaker 6 (01:35:15):
And I'll tell you one tough guy.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
That picture of those whales right there, that is typical
norb Right there, we would be flying along.

Speaker 6 (01:35:24):
He would see young male.

Speaker 4 (01:35:26):
Orcs, which are fairly aggressive, punkish, just like young male
men can be when they're in a large group. He
would signal in the helicopter, we'd land alongside, he'd run out,
and he would just jump in his wetsuit with the camera,
get right in the middle of them and get these
unbelievable pictures and I'll figure.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
It, this is it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:44):
My career is over because I'm gonna I'm gonna have
to bring back parts of Norb. He just fed himself
to these orct and he just did it. Phenomenal guy,
Absolutely phenomenal guy. And maybe some other time on the show,
I'll tell you a funny story that he convinced me
to fly over Mount Arabas. If you go down, bring
your screen down a little bit. Poppas direct. She were going,

(01:36:05):
by the way, a little bit further up right there.
That is what you're looking at.

Speaker 6 (01:36:11):
Right there.

Speaker 4 (01:36:11):
That is McMurdo where you're at, and that area on
the top, I'm pretty sure you're looking at Mount Erebus
in the background there, or it might be off to
the left. That's the sometimes active volcano. And Norb wanted
to get pictures of it. So we climbed way up
fifteen thousand feet to get over at the top and

(01:36:32):
then crusted and came back down. Not supposed to fly
without oxygen above ten twelve thousand feet thirty minute limit,
that kind of stuff, so we screwed it up as
quick as we.

Speaker 6 (01:36:43):
Could and landed.

Speaker 4 (01:36:45):
But phenomenal, phenomenal guy, phenomenal work.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
There are there a lot of UAP sightings UFO sightings
over Antarctica. You would think, out of all places that
have dark knight sky, that would be the place to see.

Speaker 6 (01:36:56):
Well, here's the problem.

Speaker 4 (01:36:58):
You have dark knight sky for about six months, right,
and nobody's there because it's the winter and it's so hillacious,
the wind is blowing, it's so difficult. Most people are
not outside very much. I knew two guys that spent
the winter over because they get paid a huge bonus.

Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
To do it.

Speaker 4 (01:37:18):
And when they had two clear nights, they got on
their snow machines and they drove out onto the ice
pack and they described the Australia. For riellis that what
they experienced down there was amazing, absolutely amazing to see
that kind of light show that was there, the colors
and everything like. We have to get really far north

(01:37:38):
in the Arctic to see the same kind of thing.
So that was I think a very unique. I've never
heard anybody talk about UFO activity that was seen there,
and you will notice it when you throw it off.
It's very very obvious when you see an aircraft because

(01:38:00):
it's very quiet. You know, you know when the helicopters
are flying, can hear them. You can tell when our
smaller airplanes that are doing support work, and when the
jets are coming in and out, the large transport jets
that they are coming in out. They actually land things
like I think it was. The last interesting one I
saw was a seven eight seven seven seven, I think

(01:38:20):
a triple seven landed that was on contract Sea seventeenth land.
Their CEA fives used to land there, and we have
a complement of C one thirties that are based there
for the season and then they return up to up
to New Zealand for the or all the way back
up to the States for servicing before they go back
down for the next season.

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
Wild So that's interesting. The whole idea of being in
South America also is very interesting. The ancient megalithic structures
there always had my interest. I've always been interested in
the ancient pyramids, and you know, the Amazon rainforests and
did you spend any time in South America as well
or just that My.

Speaker 6 (01:39:03):
Time has mainly been in Mexico. When we.

Speaker 4 (01:39:09):
My non military time, I was working as a contractor.
We had sold a helicopter to a nation down there
and they were looking for instruction and how to you know,
basically operate this helicopter. They wanted to emulate a similar
capability that we had, so I did that for a year.

Speaker 6 (01:39:27):
I have seen some of them.

Speaker 4 (01:39:28):
Of the of the pyramids in Mexico, you know, they're
very close to the coast on both west and east coast,
very very to me, amazingly interesting. I've been fortunate enough
to see the pyramids in Egypt as well, another amazing
kind of of structure to see. And the mathematics involved

(01:39:53):
in both a math undergrad guide, not that I'm very
good at it, but the mathematics involved in them is amazing,
as well as their orientations when you start to study
and understand how they align. Astronomical alignment as well as well.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
They used the stars as a map, so a lot
of times when they built the cities, the cities were
based off of constellations that were important to them. That's
why Washington d c aligns up with Cairo, Egypt and
the pyramids there because that's how they travel. They knew
if they'd followed the beltline, they would find other cities
at some point or land up in Egypt or DC

(01:40:30):
or wherever. It was.

Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
So interesting there. I have a very interesting site not
too far from where I live, run by the a
family named Stone. They call it American Stonehenge Denni, and
it was featured on In Search of Again, another program
I used to watch with my dad late sixties. Actually
that was a seventies program. Leonard need Moy was the host,

(01:40:53):
and I never forget that. We watched the show and
it has astrono astrological alignments, it has astronomical alignments. It
had things that look like sacrifice tables. It's been a
very interesting site that's come up referred to it's Those
are the first two pictures there on the left. Great
family that runs it, Wonderful People, has a very interesting

(01:41:16):
history of people that had it. It was found during
the early colonial period that was there. There has been
some really sad vandalism that's occurred there over the years
and changes that were done to it by different people
that owned it. It's a very nominal fee to go.
But what's most interesting is when you go to it,

(01:41:36):
you're actually going into a neighborhood in Salem, New Hampshire.
You just basically are driving into a residential neighborhood and
you come to this site. They have the parking lot
in the front opening you up and it's very wooded
and open in the back park. But you know, literally
people's backyards are right up against this and they've done
a lot of work to document and line it up.

(01:41:57):
They've used a lot of different technologies in the last
few years. There's a very good chance there is a
serpentine type wall that rings the entire structure that they
have found pieces of now that they think is there,
which leads to who built this. It doesn't appear to
be Native American construction. And there has been everything from Phoenician,

(01:42:24):
Viking or is it multiple people over different cultures that
have come to this site that have oh, I see
what they did here and then put their marks on it.
Very very interesting. I think at one point it was
even documented that they used this as a place.

Speaker 6 (01:42:40):
To store food in the winter.

Speaker 4 (01:42:43):
Colonists because those structures Native Americans in the northern part
of the States would do that. You know, basically it
was refrigeration. It was free refrigeration. And many anthropologists say
that we learned that from wolves. Wolves, when they get
to kill and they have access, if they have the building,
they'll dig holes in cold ground to put the meat

(01:43:03):
down there and then cover it, knowing that they have
a pretty good chance that it won't go bad during it,
so if things get lean, they can come back for it.
And we may have learned that from them. I think
the reverse of them learning it from us is probably
not too probably.

Speaker 1 (01:43:17):
Yeah, when I was at American stoneheage one of the
things that came up that look very Celtic like.

Speaker 6 (01:43:22):
And that's what we have there.

Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
And as you can see, there's a place where the
blood drains and they have the actual uh you know,
the lines around it that would lead it down. It's
kind of set up as a tail. But this isn't
light this stone here, it's got to be a ridiculous
amount of weight. I'm guessing it's it's got to be
over a thousand pounds. It's just heavy, just heavy, and
they have tons of these and it's not just like

(01:43:47):
by the way, it's not just this location all over
the East coast they have similar stone like structures. A
lot of people believe the colonize, the colonizers, they're the
ones that built it, but it's starting to look like
more and more that maybe the Celts. There's a you know,
a few thousand Celtic people, maybe the Vikings, like you mentioned.

(01:44:07):
But it does align with stonehenge in Europe. That's the
interesting thing.

Speaker 6 (01:44:12):
Yep, it surely does.

Speaker 4 (01:44:13):
And if you now look at there's a I'm sure
if you look long enough, you'll find the astrological areas.
You know, trees have grown, the stones have cut some
of those trees, so you can see it. You actually
can go and see the observations of the different times
of years. Obviously, the big ones are always going to
be spring and autumnal solstices, that's our equinoxes, excuse me.

(01:44:36):
And then the solstices and the alignments are there so
very similar to activities you see in Europe, very similar.
You see activities all the way through into Asia as well.
But this tends to have a very to me, a
very strong European or Mediterranean into Europe culture kind of
background to it, and it just doesn't conveniently fit into anything.

(01:44:57):
And of course we've people have mucked around with it
and to just throw it off a little bit that
it's not an easy detectable. But you have all along
the New England coast all the way going up to
the Maritimes of Canada, countless Viking, countless Celtic. We even
have very good evidence that we in western mass that

(01:45:17):
we have the burial of a templar or a descendant
of a templar that where a knight is there. There's
very very good evidence that that exists. Great look for
anybody who's interested in doing it. And as you said,
this is not unique to New England. No, We've got
some of these activities all through the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
Near Milwaukee, Wisconsin, we have this. We have an old
stone had found at the bottom of Lake Michigan and
they actually had a Mastadon carved into one of these
like stones and they're like, well, man never walked with
mastdon So it must be a fake. It must be
a fraud. This must be something.

Speaker 6 (01:45:55):
Else, right, because it could never be the other thing right.

Speaker 1 (01:45:57):
Christ Yeah, it could absolutely always have to.

Speaker 6 (01:46:00):
Be a fake or a fraud.

Speaker 4 (01:46:01):
And it reminds me that BC Comic do you remember
that comic BC was The The Cavemen.

Speaker 1 (01:46:08):
Ok.

Speaker 4 (01:46:09):
I always remember one the guy had carved two skulls
and he put him on top of a cliff and
he put one down at the bottom of the cliff,
and his neighbor comes by. He goes, what are you doing?
He goes, Ah, ten thousand years from now, some scientists
is going to come along and he's going to spend
the rest of his life trying to figure out why
there's two skulls on the top of the cliff and
one down on the bottom. And it was a really
fun way to poke fund that. Too many people approach

(01:46:35):
this that they have a preconceived idea and then they
want everything to fit that instead of really going with science.
With science says you want everything to be thrown off.
You want to keep finding out, You want to disprove
stuff to lead you to the right discovery. We kind
of get we're kind of lately have gotten it ass backwards.

Speaker 1 (01:46:58):
Well, and where did all the water come from for?
And when when did they have time to build this
and everything else that's on the bottom of Lake Michigan,
you know, in between Chicago and Milwaukee here. It's interesting.
I kind of want to go down there and check
it out. And the pictures that have been taken down
there a little rough, but uh, they say that the
formation of large shows and some of them are three
thousand pounds.

Speaker 4 (01:47:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:47:20):
Wow, that's that's a pretty big and heavy stone. That's
over a ton, and so it's pretty interesting. It's that
carving's believed to represent prehistoric animals are on it, such
as a mastodon which was related to an elephant, and
that's right here in Lake Michigan, right by me here
in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, not too far off. And of course
we have the Aztalan Pyramid Mounds and all this unexplained

(01:47:42):
history right here. So Commander Cobra here, we got a
we got a couple questions here before we let you go.
First of all, we've got to let listeners know where
they can find out more about you. Tell us a
little bit about your show, Up Crossfire.

Speaker 6 (01:47:56):
Up Crossfire.

Speaker 4 (01:47:57):
Don Ecker, Christaprano and Dan the Padre are my co hosts.

Speaker 6 (01:48:05):
They really carry the show. I am just there causing trouble.

Speaker 4 (01:48:10):
UAP Crossfire was the creation of our producer Bill Skywatcher,
that you all know real well, very very talented guy.
He wanted to throw up discussion on what was going on.
So you can imagine in the last few months we've
been pretty busy talking about drones. Is at the end
of time? Is it wore the World's Part two? Oh

(01:48:32):
never mind, everything's fine. The fa knew the whole time.
We had that, and then we we tear into whatever
has comes up with it, you know, the disclosure and part.
Don Ecker a UFO magazine with his wife Vicki the
the Silverback of Uifology as he got tagged many years back.

(01:48:54):
Incredible story and and Don Chris A. H is a
retired detective Upstate New York Muffon member director, so he
brings his police kind of way of doing this into it.
The Padre Dan Carlson is a minister in the Dakotas

(01:49:17):
also an author, wrote a couple of books on the
subject of cryptids, which is really good science fiction reading,
fun stuff, and he is a recent add on. In fact,
the way he came to the show was he contacted
me on email. We started talking and then the next thing,
you know, I travel a lot from my job, so

(01:49:40):
I wanted to make sure we always had at least
three people some nights we were down to two and
as you guys know how it goes when you do
in a live block, it's really really hard to sometimes
keep everything together with the way the world is. So
those are the great. They are three of the best
that you will see. Like I said, I think I
probably am the class when it comes to their capabilities

(01:50:02):
and their backgrounds.

Speaker 6 (01:50:04):
We discussed it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:04):
Every week we try to tear into some subject. As
you can imagine, the tragedy in watching the DC has
been really quite dominant for the last couple of weeks.
And anybody would like to reach out to me, it's
in my name for the show tonight. It's Commander Krober
kg R, a dB at gmail dot com. I always
try to respond to the emails. Sometimes you get them

(01:50:27):
from when I'm in the Mideast, so you'll see a
strange time stamp to your local time when I write
it back to you. But I'm glad to try to
answer it. And I criticism is as much as compliment,
and I've had some really great ideas from the audience
over the years, and I love connecting them up with
other shows. Obviously a big fan of Yours of Yours,

(01:50:48):
Chris and I look forward to hopefully coming on with
you again. Is a real privileged thing.

Speaker 1 (01:50:53):
Yeah, thanks, no problem. We're always glad to have you
and we're always growing. And it's like one of the
things we haven't done a whole lot here is I
have had a lot of our fellow talk radio show
hosts that are on KYGR on this broadcast. I know,
I've had a chance to spend time with Clyde Lewis
from Ground zero and absolutely one.

Speaker 6 (01:51:10):
Of my favorite people on the planet.

Speaker 4 (01:51:13):
Yeah, he's really included. You two included, but Clyde. Clyde
spends a lot of time with me in the car.
He just doesn't realize it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:20):
Yeah, Clyde is awesome. You know John B. Wells, I've
met him, but I have we haven't had a lot
of the like Mark D'Antonio and I are like bros,
Like whenever we go to these I couldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:51:30):
I would never have guessed that, never in a million
years when I have guessed that you two would have
the bro title going.

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
Yeah, No, he actually did my uh double windsor ties
for me whatever. I'm like, I can't do a double
windsor and he's like, I got you and you'd make it,
you'd take it off, and he'd give it to me,
like before a presentation or whatever it would be, because
I do a presentation a lot of it on William Cooper,
because I filed a FOY and got three hundred pages
back on the murder of William Cooper, amongst other things,

(01:51:58):
including his indictment of m J which was riled with
the government, which is interesting because that's under top secret
or under a listing of some kind of security clearance.
And I happened to get my hands on it because
I filed a FOYA and somebody who was close to
Cooper sent me the MJ twelve documents, which was interesting.
I don't know. I don't know a lot about it.
I just know that I sent it to some people

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with clearance and they said if they looked at it,
they could lose their clearance, So I don't know, you
know whatever that means they looked at it and then
they go up, or they didn't look at it all.

Speaker 4 (01:52:28):
I'll throw it out to you, gentlemen. Maybe you've seen it,
maybe you have not. To your audience. On Amazon, there
is the Ipcress File, which is the famous movie that
was out in the sixties. There's a modern version of it.
The modern version I usually am pretty much down when
anybody redoes it. Absolutely worth your time, because anybody in

(01:52:50):
this audience that knows anything about MG twelve will understand
some of the lacing that is behind that adaption of
that story. O.

Speaker 1 (01:53:00):
Yeah, there's a lot of misinformation, intentionally propaganda arms. You know,
they have all these different projects. And you know, what's
really interesting about the MG twelve document that I was
given is how much of it became true. And I've
gone over that and it's interesting in the show. I
haven't published it anywhere, but I think I might sometime
soon because nobody else has. You can't find it anywhere else,
and I'm sitting on a copy of it or two.

(01:53:21):
So that being said, Commander Cobra, I appreciate you. Where
can people find you and listen to you on the radio?
What time is your show at.

Speaker 4 (01:53:29):
We're on Thursday evenings Live zero correction eight pm to
ten pm Eastern Standard time twenty hundred to twenty two
hundred for those military types that don't understand Mickey's big
hand and little hand business.

Speaker 1 (01:53:44):
Yeah, thanks for joining us today.

Speaker 6 (01:53:45):
We'll be back very much a privilege.

Speaker 1 (01:53:47):
Tomorrow, Drew Arnold will be joining us. He's done music
videos for Beyonce and Kanye West, amongst other things. He's
got a great data program where he's crew tens thousands
of points of data where donors' money come from and
terror cell organizations that are funding different political campaigns right
here in the United States. We're gonna Drew Arnold on
the broadcast tomorrow. Should be a good show. Today's guest

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is come Commander Cobra. Make sure you check out his program.
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Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
Stay blessed, Underground Chournealists, Thank you ens. The Destroyer is
Chris Daunt, Harris and n Viginia on the Rundown Live down.
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Speaker 4 (01:54:57):
I'm very healthy.

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