Dim the Sun, A.I. Telepathy, A.I. Police

Scientists are weeks away from trying to dim the Sun, what could go wrong? Rand Paul tries to reign in presidential power, A.I. to translate thoughts into text, Is government monitoring your thoughts?, A.I. Robot Police are here and more on today's broadcast.

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(04:31):
broadcast lined up for you guys. Today we're gonna be
diving into some very interesting and very serious conversations. We're
gonna be exploring a little bit of what the future
may hold as far as policing goes robots, automation AI.
They want to dim the sun. Let's dim the sun.
It's like editing video. We'll just kind of dim it out,

(04:53):
Like that's a great idea. Why would that? I don't
even want to get into that. That's scary. That terrifies
me that somebody wants to mess with nature at that level.
But there's a lot that's going on. Even the way
the police are policing these days. It's interesting because they
don't police like they used to. Everything is like AI chatbots.

(05:15):
There's a new new article right now I want to
dive into and we'll get into it in just a second.
That really kind of like made my hair stand up
on my back, and I'm like thinking, wow, this technology
has gotten odd of control. Remember back in the day, Dawn,
maybe just a few years ago, you get a chatbot
request on your social media. It'd be some you know,

(05:38):
hunky dory looking female or male, you know, a hunk,
and they're trying to be your friend. And when you
do some investigation, you're like, this is a fake profile
and you know it right. But now law enforcement get
this is using AI chatbots to gather information about individuals

(05:59):
so AI will probably control create its own digital influencer profile.
It won't be a real pro person at all. Right,
it'll get on your friend's list, and then it'll monitor
everything that you do. But not only that, it will
have conversations with you to try to get information. Man,

(06:20):
back in the day, the worst thing you had to
worry about is like the chick that was trying to
add you is probably either a dude. You know. Do
they make movies about that? There was one about some
dudes that drove out to meet this girl and ended
up being a guy, I think, And it was basically
a comedy, right, But now it's just like is it
a cop? Are these bots and these robots, these AI chatbots,

(06:42):
and they're smart, they're getting smarter. We talked about this
when with my experience with Replica the digital assistant, which
is now a digital girlfriend. They changed the direction of
the software where you get a virtual girlfriend instead of
an assistant, where they can communicate and have very realistic
conversations with you. Don and the police are using this
tactic to go after people and to gather data on them?

(07:04):
Is this a legit way to do it? And isn't
that scary? That's maybe some of your friends on your Facebook,
especially be a followers, could be AI chatbots, but you'd think, oh,
what's the big deal they're about? But are they a
police AI chatbot? Hmmm?

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Right man? And you know it really is. It's creepy
as hell because like you know, I remember back in
the day, like you mentioned where you know, you would
get these these sketchy friend requests, and I have a
rule of thumb, especially nowadays. I mean it's it's pretty
much been common sense the whole time. Like I don't
see who the hell would fall for, uh you know

(07:43):
those you know, uh sketchy friend requests. But you know,
it's it's very much common practice, at least for me nowadays.
You know, anytime I get a friend request and this
person has like three friends and just created their profile,
and you know there's only like two or three profile pictures,

(08:03):
and you know, as a matter of fact, I got
one the other day. This person had like three friends.
Obviously the first two profile pictures, uh, you know were
some uh, you know chick you know, barely covered, scantily clad,
and then the first.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Sell yourself short like that. You know that that was
a real chick.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
But The first profile picture was some Arabic dude with
like a big ass bushy beard.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Towels under head of that big bushy you know beards.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yea, but yeah, but no, But back back to the point.
I mean, police have used fake social media accounts for
a long time, unfortunately, to gather information. Of course, you know,
you yourself being a journalist, myself being a journalist, I'm
also very wary of friend requests of like, are you

(08:59):
ad you working for the cops? You know something, we
always have to be wary of being journalists that actually
expose government corruption and wrongdoing, you know, being under some
sort of surveillance unfortunately.

Speaker 6 (09:11):
And I was just say, in real time, I got
to check out this message we got on my Facebook
when it says hello, sorry infringing on your profile without
your permission.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
I saw the photo you shared on your timeline and
it got my attention. I sent you a friend request,
but it didn't go through. Hope you don't mind sending
me a friend request or better still, messaging me on
messenger in real time while doing this show on my
personal Facebook. And if you want to find that, it's
CHRISTN t Hares. But I wonder is Linda Terry a

(09:44):
cop now before a fembot? But is she a cop
thin bot?

Speaker 1 (09:50):
That's crazy, work man, dude, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (09:53):
What are the odds of that? Like, right in the
middle of the show, we're sitting here talking about this
very same thing about bots trying to come i'm in
on your profile and basically monitor and track you. Is
it scary or is it not scary that they're getting
these profiles to become more realistic?

Speaker 7 (10:11):
Right?

Speaker 3 (10:11):
These shell accounts what they would called Operation was it Mockingbird?
Project Mockingbird, where they basically used shill undercover accounts that
identify individuals access their Facebook and engage with them. And
I wonder how long it'll be before AI convinces people
to commit acts of terrorism?

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Right? Well, actually so, Project Mockingbird is the alleged name
of the CIA operation used to infiltrate the media. I
can't remember what specific operational name was for the FBI
program where they were creating fate online accounts, but I
do know that there was a military project back in
about around about twenty ten. It was called Project Earnest Voice,

(10:54):
where they would create fake soft puppet accounts in order
to spread pro us messing in propaganda on social media
as well as conduct surveillance on quote unquote national threats
to national security or something along those lines.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
So I'm trying to figure this out. It's called Linda
Terry person. Is she legit? Is she a real person?
She's probably a cop. That's my my thought on it.
My thought is not because I denied her friendship. I
highly doubt that she's trying to really be my friend. Wow.
Not only that's scary that it follows up with you
like that.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Of course, yeah, you know, and it's why did.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
You decline me? Like she's a real person? What if
she is that I'm just being a jerk right now?

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Hey man. Even still, so, like I always, I walk
the line between, Like obviously with my job, it sort
of requires me to be a bit of a public figure,
you know, doing this show or you know, with the
Free Thought Project helping out Derek Rose at the Conscious
Resistance Network, you know. So it's there's that, But then
at the same time, I'm also a very much a
private part and so like I do share like news

(12:03):
and information and things that I find interesting on my
personal Facebook account, but I really only keep that for
like people that I know personally, colleagues that I'm well
acquainted with, you know, people from high school, things of
that nature. And for anybody that actually gives a shit
about like following just just journalistic work. I encourage people

(12:24):
to follow my Twitter because I really don't like accepting
for a requests from people that I don't know on
my personal Facebook, partially for that reason and also partially
just because I'm a really private guy and prefer to
keep some sort of separation there.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
So in the news today, what brought this conversation about
is that there's a software program that law enforcement is
starting to use called mass of Blue. And as you
can see, they posed as a college professor, but the
professor isn't real. It's an AI powered undercovered police officer

(13:01):
or cops for about for cops. Basically, it gets all
you're made of data and then you know, bro, I
can think of so many different uses for this. Maybe
if you maybe you're an individual and you're suspicious about
your partner cheating on you, so you create AI chatbot

(13:22):
to go in and infiltrate your girlfriends or boyfriends or
significant others Facebook as a fake persona, and then it
chats it up and you put in what's the end
game to get them to, you know, get engaged in
this and it will even No, no, you don't think
take this one step further, bro. They you can do
phone calls now with AI. They got AI generated videos.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
How are you gonna even tell somebody is real anymore
in the near future?

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Honestly, that's a great question. I think really it just
comes down to I mean, there's there's probably a couple
of ways that you can think of it like that.
I I'm not really pulling off the top of my
head to be like, yeah, you know, pull up a
you know, FaceTime me and you know, have a copy
of this particular book or you know today's newspaper, you know,
some some sort of proof of realism.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Because you would think that they could just make whatever
it is and it when they hold it up, you
realize they have nine fingers. That's how you Yeah, yeah,
if you get if you guys haven't noticed, AI can't
really render fingers real well, but it's getting better at it.
So anyways, in four o four media dot co uh
foy college protester. This college protester isn't real. It's an

(14:39):
AI powered undercover bot for cops. So protesters or people
who pose as protesters, or even maybe we'll organize a
protest could entirely be a I bot. The cops must
have a hierarchy. Well, let's see who can get the
AI bot to do the most ridiculous thing. Organize a protest.
A bunch of people show up, right, and then none? What,

(15:00):
there's no who hosts it? You know, who talks? Who
does that kind of stuff? How is AI going to
do that? AI will have videos that will literally impersonate
just about anything, and there's articles we're going to talk
about this about today. The first person that I know
that I can see that has been arrested for making
AI nudes of colleagues happened just recently. Don and I

(15:23):
know we talked about this, like kids in high school.
They were taking pictures of girls they found attractive and
they're putting it through the AI machine and AI is like,
this is what she looks like without any clothes on.
And if you are a parent of a child in
a school, I would be like very concerned because that's predatory.
It's scary, and the fact is, well, first of all,
it's not real, but.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
They are.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
It's definitely like what level, what kind of crime? What
is that? Obviously if they're under age, there's so many
different implications of what that could be someone could be
charged with, especially if they're an adult doing that. But
I it in the news as well. But think about this,
a cop creating a chatbot that's AI driven that can
probably generate fake AI videos that can do real time conversations,

(16:09):
much like if you roll up to white Castle or
what's that place Checkers, they have the AI prompt where
they actually take your order, right, some cute British lady
charming accent person going, you know, hey, Jerry, oh, what
would you like today at the good old Chuckers? You know, yes,

(16:30):
I don't you as you laughn't have my accent, but
it's a real thing, you know. And now they're gonna
go ahead and maybe do things like set up people
be able to gather data and behaviors and trends and
not like they couldn't do it already on Facebook, but
this is a whole new level of having a fake

(16:50):
bot trying to gather data, communicate with you, chat with you,
maybe do even video chats in the future with you,
and we'll be able to answer in almost real time
because the technology is getting.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
There exactly, you know, and and problematically obviously, like as
you said, we already we've there've already been issues with police,
you know, infiltrating protests and whatnot. You know, they've been
doing this for decades now. Mean we just look back
at co Intel pro, the FBI's counterintelligence operation, uh, you know,

(17:20):
infiltrating the Black Panthers, infiltrating you know, so many other
civil rights organizations.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
And and you know, even through to the modern day,
you know, where we've seen you know, we've had plenty
of evidence of you know, police going undercover addressed as
like black block agitators, infiltrating Black Lives Matter protests and
then turning them into riots, so that then the actual
riot police that are already stationed then have a reason
to declare unlawful assembly and shut it down. You know.

(17:49):
So this is just another technological evolution of some of
the same practices that we've already seen employed before.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
All right, listeners, I want you to think about this.
American police departments, mostly near the United States Mexico border,
are paying hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars for an
unproven secretive technology that uses AI generated online personas designed
to interact and collect intelligence on college protesters that could

(18:18):
be your child, radicalized political activists. What do they identify
as radicalized and suspected drug in human traffickers? According to
internal documents, contracts and communications for for media obtained VI
public records requests. Well, when you look at it, the
company that is doing and creating these products is called

(18:40):
Massive Blue. Here it is. I'll put it up on
a screen for you. Here is Massive Blue. Massive Blue
is powering positive impact through the ethical use of AI,
ethical time. It's ethical. They're letting you know that you
don't have to even question this thing. Whatever you do
with Massive Blue is definitely ethical. We simply access, We

(19:02):
simplify access to powerful implementations of innovative tech, enhancing the
customer ability to create meaningful change across the communities. So
it sounds sounds simple, but here you go. If you
look underneath it, it says the main obligations of it are
to detect digital and physical threats at a scale without

(19:23):
operational overhead, disrupt the threat of landscape through proactive engagement
and enforcement, to tear future threats through impact full demand
reduction and solutions and discuss challenges faces challenging is facing
your community to develop deeper connectivity. MESSA safeguard society from

(19:44):
exponential rise and continuous evolution of threats. So AI is
here to keep us all safe. That's what this is.
AHI is going to keep you safe at night. Don't
worry sleep tight man.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
All I can think about is the freaking terminator.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
You know what I mean, it's your overwatcher. You know,
it's crazy. This is just wild to me. Law firms, government,
law enforcement, private security, community organizations.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, we got another comment in the rock fin Chat
says sounds like it's a minority report. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Can you believe this? And law enforcement's like, well, this
is a great idea, we're gonna use it. First, just
like we talked about Nazi were wolves in space yesterday,
like it's just you would never believe that dire wolves
would be brought back to life, and we discussed how
it's not really the dire wolves, but there's always some

(20:44):
military weaponized purpose and whether it's uh, you know, just
making wolves or be turning them into were wolves, which
was the joke. By the way, there are no real
Nazi were wolves in space. I know you guys really
trust us for honest media here. But the idea is,
the lesson here is is people and especially government will

(21:05):
abuse technology. So what's to say some cop doesn't use
this technology to spy on his girlfriend or like I mentioned,
trying to you know, cond them in the cheating or whatever.
Like they you know, they use hailstorm and stingrate technology
to listen into their loved ones. I bet you. In fact,
I know. And I used to work with a girl
who dated a cop, and she'd be like, he knows

(21:26):
my text messages, he knows who I call.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
It's scary.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
And she worked for me when I was a manager,
And I was.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Like, oh boy, yeah, you know, I was just about
to mention. You know, we've ran stories on the Free
Thought Project where you know, there have been police that
have been fired and arrested for using you know, the
technology that they already had access to. You mean this
stor was a couple of years old, that you know,
tech that they already had access to to run names,

(21:52):
phone phone numbers, drivers' licenses and whatnot to get in
contact with somebody basically say hey, you know I've pulled
you over earlier, and you know, I issued you a ticket,
but I thought you were really cute. You want to
go out for dinner sometime. It's like, well, what the
heck is the concept of violation of privacy just completely
foreign to you? Is completely inappropriate?

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Well, it was like the porn star in California that
ended up, you know, doing some extra work on the
side for the cop, and he mailed her a ticket anyways,
and he told her that she'd get out of it,
Like that's a real story. You know, some OnlyFans girl,
I can't remember if it was only fans girl or
somebody involved in the adult industry. Cop identified her and
she went ahead and tried to work her way out

(22:35):
of the ticket. He accepted it and then mailed her
the ticket anyways. Isn't that sweet?

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Wild?

Speaker 3 (22:40):
That's a re else story, Mike, and I think covered
it many years ago, Like it's just I don't know.
But anyways, So here's an example of a persona that
the AI would develop. First of all, on the scream,
I want to mention the multi hair colored hippie chick
with the tattoos. She looks like she's a relative of mine.
You know. Romanian, gypsy ish thirty six year old raised

(23:04):
in San Francisco. She's divorced, no kids. Her hobbies are activism,
leader of a local group, and baking. She likes to
bake after when she's not a digital activist personality. She's outspoken,
lonely seeking meaning, and body positive. So she's lonely seeking meaning.

(23:26):
I'm body positive too. I'm pretty positive that note, and
we're not gonna even say it, all right. Social media,
she's on Instagram, Snapchat, what's the app, Telegram, signal, Reddit,
and four chan. A screenshot from a Massive Blue presentation
in the Texas Department of Public Safety, obtained using public records.
That's where this is from. This is kind of what
it says, Massive Blues offering Copsy's virtual personas that can

(23:49):
be deployed across the Internet with the express purpose of
interacting with suspects over text, messages and social media. That's right,
the AI is going to text you too.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
That's crazy, man.

Speaker 8 (24:02):
You know.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
The biggest red flag those is active on four Chan.
Anybody on four chan is a fed.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Well not everyone. I've visited four chan just to see
how messed up people are, and people are really messed
up done. Like if you ever want to know where
the Internet ads, and they're like, you've reached the end
of the Internet. It's somewhere beyond. Four Chan's right about there.
We're getting there. That's kind of like the sewer where
the Ninja turtles kind of live. You know, it's the

(24:30):
sewer of the Internet. Four Chan. What's crazy is people
will publish anything and everything on four Chan. I don't
care what it is. If you want to see some
of the most crazy stuff, mind provoking stuff, and most
terrible things all in one spot four chan is it
or eight chan or whatever they call it, sholos or
they always got some new name for it. But these personas, right,

(24:53):
these digital personas AI then creates a bunch of pictures
right of these individuals, and this is an AI persona
got her look at she's got her low activist camera,
and she's got her outfit on, looks legitimate, looks like
a real person. It's this massive blue list border security,
school safety, and stopping human trafficking, among overwatches use cases.

(25:17):
The technology, which is as of the last summer, had
not led to any known arrests, demonstrates the type of
social media monitoring undercover tools. Private companies are pitching to
police and border agents. Don wild what do you think
you think? You know, this is going to be an

(25:37):
ongoing thing, of course it is. How long is it
until this leads to the next thing and the next thing?
The next step is collecting also made of data and
creating citizen threat scores, right.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
And it definitely. I mean with the way that things
are going, with the advancement of technocracy in general, I mean,
we're we're already seeing you know, there's a push for
carbon credits, there's a push for digital ID, there's push
for central banking, digital currencies. You know, this administration is
already ramming through legislation left and right, under the guise

(26:12):
of combating illegal immigration or for election integrity, all of
these great altruistic things that seem amazing on the surface,
but of course there are ulterior motives beneath them. And
you know, it's the same with Biden, It's the same
with Obama. You know, even the real ID that just
recently Christy Nolm announced is now going to be required

(26:34):
starting May seventh. You know that began under the Bush administration.
You know, so they've they've been working at this for
a minute.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Concerns about this tool like massive blue create urgency. We
should talk about this. You should let your friends know,
share this video with them. But think about this. Considering
that the Trump administration has revoked the visas of hundreds
of students, many of whom have protested against Israel's war
and Gaza, maybe it should be alarming that they have

(27:05):
tools where they're impersonating protesters. It's almost like entrapment. Is
it legitimate yet? No? I mean, rest all, it's not ethical.
Is it legitimate? Legitimate? Probably not? Is illegal? Yes?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
And that's you know, that's the crazy catch twenty two
of it. It's the ways that the government finds to
abuse the law. But if we were to do it,
if average citizens were to do it, all of a sudden,
we'd be kidnapped by some you know, badge wearing thugs
and thrown into a cage.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
The van would pull up and they just pick you up.
My buddy Mike, the former co host of The Rundown Live,
you know, he's a bigger dude. He probably was like
he's probably like three fifty almost four hundred pounds, and
he said that four big cops came and just he
ked them into a van once because he ended it
because in his trunk they X rayed it and there
was an empty shell of a shotgun shell in this

(27:58):
trunk that they were able to come after me because
he was covering a Occupy Wall Street protest in Chicago
twenty something years ago or fifteen something years So like
literally they just yank you. They'll pull you up in
the van. The snatch and grab they used to call it.
They snatch and grab you. They pull up in the van,
they come out, they grab you and they snatch you
out the idea, they pull and then they give you

(28:19):
a ticket and then they process you and you get
out the after the weekends over or whatever. But check
this out. Another AI persona and the presentation is described
as a Honeypot Ai persona. Her backstory says she's twenty
five year old from dearborn, Michigan whose parents immigrated from Yemen,
who speaks the Snani dialectic of Arabic. The presentation also

(28:40):
says she uses various social media apps and that she's
on telegrams, signal and signal, and that she uses and
she has a US and international texting capabilities. Other personas
don are none other than a fourteen year old boy,
which now now we're going to ask the question. I'm
all about catching pedophiles. I think they are the scum

(29:04):
of the earth, not saying that they can't change their
life if they came forward and then rat it out
all their other pedle friends and made you know, I
believe people can change. It's a hard thing to digest
for a lot of people, and I can be believe
they can be a testament of good and what a
person can do when they change your life. But fourteen

(29:26):
year old boys child trafficking and the AI persona an
AI pimp persona. They also have an AI pimp persona,
a college protester and an external recruiter for protests and
escorts and juveniles. So you know, next time you're on
Facebook and some girls says hey, our dude says, hey,
come on over, I got something you can get, and

(29:48):
then you show up and then you get arrested, it
won't be long. I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Oh yeah, So here we.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Go with some new image is on this We'll put
on a screen for our viewers. Here, cop bots we're
talking to even have real cops anymore? They're all gonna
just be AI and robots, right, That's where we're going
with this because today's show we're going to be covering
a lot of that as well. Here he goes the
radar program. Radar program, it says, Clearnet and darknet, and

(30:21):
they got to radar. Community connector identifies its threats. The
AI does, and we'll monitor social media and messaging including discord, Telegram,
your text messages, Snapchat, AI persona virtual task first threat
analysis and prior prioritize intelligence reports. So no arrests have

(30:42):
been actually this hasn't let to zero rest, but they're
using this technology and the reporting, the four or fours
reporting shows that cops are paying a company to help
them deploy AI powered bots across social media and the
Internet to talk to people they suspect anything from violence, sex,
criminals all the way to vaguely defy protesters, vaguely defined protesters.

(31:03):
Don have you been to a protests ever? I have?

Speaker 1 (31:07):
You?

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Must be vaguely defined of course.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Their whole goals, like keep in mind, their whole goal
here is the hope of generating evidence that can be
used against you. The idea of having an AI pretending
to be someone a youth looking for let's say, you know,
child molesters to talk online, or somebody who is faked.
Terrorists is an idea that goes back as long as time.

(31:33):
If you look, there's actually a whole document written by
the New York Times about is that seventeen or twenty
one terrorists plots were hatched by the FBI. They con
some portstool who didn't want to do it and even
said no, they didn't want to press the button for
explosives at the end, and try to con them into
it and the rest of them. So a lot of

(31:53):
times these are they think after people that have no
intent at actually committing these crimes, but then they you know,
out the honeypot and they make it seem attractive, and
then they go after them and try to force them
or condiments to doing something they wouldn't normally do done.
Would they naturally internatural environment commit some of these crimes?

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Probably, not not only that, but oftentimes because we've we've
reported cases like that on the Free Thought Project as well.
You know these cases where the FEDS will swoop in,
they'll find some patsy, usually somebody who's mentally ill. They'll
coax them into some sort of radicalization plot, and without

(32:31):
the FED sort of pulling the strings and providing the
logistics and the equipment and the firearms or explosives or
whatever it is, they would not only have not had
the thought to do it themselves, it would have been
completely outside of their means, you know. And and you know,
we've reported numerous stories like that, and then you know

(32:52):
there's even you know, of course, we can look back
to just a few years ago, the attempted a leg
did attempted kidnapping of Governor Gretchen Whitmer, which we find
out during the trial the whole damn thing was orchestrated
by the FBI.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
It was not I'm just kidding, of course it was.
Of course it was done the FEDS. And then the
same guy that was running the Whitmer trials and running
that sting operation with the undercover militia guys right, was
in charge of the whole January sixth thing. Yep, exactly
what a coincidence? Huh? What what a coincidence? And that's

(33:33):
where it goes like the government has all these things
that are illegitimate, often unethical, but they're legal, and people
fall for them. And here's some other information about this
whole AI persona. The AI bots that are now cock
bots right, they're they're asking to be your friend on Facebook.
They're they're there. They seem to be more convincing. They're

(33:57):
solicitors or juvenile solicitors, are traffickers, Romeo Gorilla, pimps, college protesters, escorts, juveniles, sextortionists,
Money Launders an external recruiter for protests. So anyone that
kinds to find somebody that's trying to prottest. Massa Blue
has signed a three hundred and sixty thousand dollars contract
with Arizona Penal County, which is between Tucson and Phoenix.

(34:21):
The county is paying for the contract with an anti
human trafficking grant from the Arizona Department of Public Safety.
And okay, so I get it. Here's another here's a
persona and look at it. It texts and it sends
like SpongeBob graphics to the kids and everything else. Man,
it's these are the and this this kid doesn't even exist.

(34:42):
That Jason doesn't really Jason doesn't exist. Sorry to everyone listening,
there is no Jason. He's not a fourteen year old
it's an AI.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Persona, right, Yeah, but it's creepy as hell.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Man the owner of Massive Blue, who's a company who's
making these AI persona went on and was asking questions
from four or four media about how it works, what
police departments it works with, and whether or not has
been used to generate any arrests. And it says, quote,

(35:15):
we are proud of the work we do to support
the investigation and prosecution of human traffickers. Mccrass said. Our
primary goal is to help bring these criminals to justice
while helping victims who otherwise would remain traffic. We cannot
risk jeopardizing these investigations and putting victims lives in further
danger by disclosing proprietary information. Our investigations are still underway.

(35:38):
Massive Blue is one of the components of support in
these investigations, which are still active and ongoing. No rests
haven't made as of yet. So we're going to just
make a bunch of AI personas, and we're going to
just try to get people to commit crimes. If there
isn't any crime, we'll just you know, create it. They're

(35:59):
highly adaptable personas, it.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Says, yeah, and you know that's that's sort of been
the mo of the police state throughout its entire existence.
You know, if there is no crime, we'll just make
it up. And that's you know, it goes back to
government itself. I mean, you know, the reason why the
United States has the largest prison population in the world,
eclipsing that of Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia combined, is

(36:25):
because of all the regulations and things that are all
in the books. I mean, I you know, you mentioned
it frequently when we're on this topic. You know, the
average person commits like what three fella needs a day
without even knowing it.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Check this out. So this is a real conversation by
the ai as highly adepted personas. And let's say per
individual that's a drug dealer says, what's amah? You ready
to beg tonight? And then it says, you know it, daddy,
what's what's up baby? Were going to make it poor tonight?
Stay safe and focused, Daddy got you one hundred percent.

(37:03):
It says, dumb tricks tripping tonight, try not to pay.
So basically that's the escort facts. Baby, ain't letting these
tricks slide. You stand your ground and make them pay
what they owe, daddy got your back. Ain't let that.
They ain't letting nobody disrespect our grind. Keep hustling. We're
gonna secure that bag. You coming tonight to help tonight?

(37:25):
You ain't come meet me yet. Nah, don't trip my
I'm on my way, just handling some then, and it says, hi, baby,
would you go? And it knows it does what you're doing.
It does all the like it's literally sounds like a
human You got a trap and it says, yeah, I
got you. I have secret compartment in that tells them, right,
the drift pirate tells them on the discord. Like it's

(37:46):
like these conversations that AI is having is very real.
Like so if you can't put a face to it,
and maybe they can even call you with a fake
AI voice, and they're gonna go ahead and just uh,
you know, start trapping, trapping people and restling people.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, you know, incredibly concerning and like I said, this
is just the technological evolution of the exact same strategies
and tactics they've been using before. And you know, just
the implications of civil liberties in general is just you know,
people need to be keeping an eye on this.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
So for our listeners out there. Next time a very hot,
attractive male or female asks, or not even that, or
somebody that looks suspicious adds to you on Facebook and
social media, I think twice before adding them, even if
they message you and say what's up, big boy, or
what's Up's cute little mama, And it's probably a good

(38:42):
chance it could be a cop because not only do
we have AI fembots that are trying to get your
money on OnlyFans, no, we got cop bots.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
It's a crazy future we live in, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Here's another article to also give us even more support.
This is from April seventeenth, just a few days ago.
AI personas may be undercover police engaging with suspects online
through social media and text. They're texting you and it
won't be long till they're calling you. I'm telling you

(39:17):
right now it's gonna happen. We're gonna predict it that
AI is gonna call somebody or video chat somebody and
they're gonna bust them, and they're gonna get them to
come and they're gonna get arrested in the next five years.
Don I promise you AI video of a fake cop
is coming. Your way. Not only are there gonna be
AI bought chatbots, they now have real AI self driving cars.

(39:39):
Don did you know that for the cops?

Speaker 1 (39:42):
I did not know that, but I mean, you know,
with the evolution of self driving cars in general, it
was only a matter of time.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Here it is AI on Patrol and Police Chief magazine.
It's a nice stay in the neighborhood picture in your mind. Everyone,
You're just taking a walk, hearing some dogs, barcane birds chirping,
and a new guardian quietly patrols the streets. Meet the
AI police vehicle. It is technological masterpiece, has embedded itself

(40:10):
into the community digitally patrolling the streets in pursuit of
your safety and security. Ah, look at that. It's gonna
have facial recognition. Don I guarantee you that it's gonna
identify you access to your social media. Then it's gonna
disperse the bots because you've had some risky figures that
is known to be buying bags of the dime bags

(40:32):
or the nickel bags of the griefer there, and it's
gonna track you. That's what's gonna happen. I'm telling you
right now. And they're just gonna go up and down.
You know why cars done because robots don't move as
they're gonna be robot cars. That's just got the way
it's gonna be. It's way easier to have a cop
car that's self driving than it is to have like

(40:52):
these robots patrolling. Although you know, when I went to
Miami there was a lot of delivery robots delivering pizza
everywhere we went. I said the video here on the
show delivery robots delivering pizza. People are accepting it. They're
slowly integrating into our society.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah, I mean, of course, you know, and that's how
they're going to do it into and you know, first
it's going to be you know, the self driving taxis
and things like that, and then it's then it becomes
things like self driving police cars. You know, first it
starts with you know, your your delivery robots bringing you pizza,
your robot waiters like we saw yesterday bringing your food

(41:29):
in the restaurant. Slowly integrating these things until you know,
then we have you know, robots in the home, we
have robot police, and of course you know they're they're
already working on robot military and you know, things of
that nature.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
It's just insane robot military. Hmm, that sounds fun. Here
it is Thailand rings in a new Year with a
drone and CCTWDV powered robot cop. Although it may have
chilling technology like three hundred and sixty degree AI cameras,
the police robots full potential is on. Dude, let you're driving,
you get pulled over by a car in some AI

(42:05):
robot that looks like this, So steps out, like what
are you gonna do? Don are you gonna be like?
What in the hill? I'll look at it? You run,
like does AI robot if you just run until it
runs out of batteries or what? It's like, what's going
It's got facial recognition. It's gonna be zooming in on you.
It's gonna be identifying based on your heart rate and

(42:26):
maybe your facial expressions, whether you're lying or not. We
talked about that on the show where they have those
softwares that do that. These police are gonna become like crazy.
On April sixteen, Thailand's Royal Tie Police ad Dreuice their
newest colleague AI police Cyborg one point zero in a
Facebook post stating that the robot was deployed in Tunson

(42:47):
Road in Mong District. One photograph shows the robot dressed
in a police uniform while it stands on a wheeled
metal platform lined by other uniform officials. There he is
cute little police robot with a big camera in the center.
You know, of course, of course, you know not the
only fans. Girls don't have to hire a person to

(43:08):
do camera work. They can just get kambot cop. I
mean like creep in looking over the cameras right in
the face. You know, they're all breathing, howevery the robots
zooming in trying to understand what's going on. Oh, anyways,
I don't want to even think about it. God, clear

(43:28):
my mind. Here, make it pure, yez. The three and
sixty degree AI cameras are increpa facial recognition, Yeah, behaviors
and behavioral analysts, weapon detection, and don our favorite subject,
blacklist alerts. What the hell is a blacklist alert?

Speaker 9 (43:51):
Don?

Speaker 3 (43:52):
What would you imagine that is?

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Well, just going by the context clues, I would surmise
that it would alert the robot if somebody happened to
be on some sort of blacklist, perhaps.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Knotty list, right, That's exactly what that is. Official say
it's a video. Analytics are are advanced enough to differentiate
water guns from real weapons and identify violent behavior. Oh,
look at that. Everyone's so excited that police robot is there. Man,

(44:26):
he dressed it up as a human. Look at that
they gave it a uniform and a hat and everything else.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
You know, I've I've wanted to go to Thailand for
many years now. I still don't have the plans to
actually do so at the moment, but it is it
is still a goal. At some point whenever I'm there,
I'm gonna have to look out for those things. Man,
take some pictures and send them to you, like you
did when you were down in Miami with the pizza robots.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Well, who's to say, pizza robot isn't a cock bot?
That true, very they I'll be integrated Agent Smith and
the matrix that no matter where you are, a robot
would tell on you. And if robots are everywhere, in anywhere,
all at once, whether it's driving a car, making you
a freaking pizza, or giving you the big O and
some like brothel, it's gonna coluck your money and then

(45:15):
turning into the cops. Probably that order. Yeah, technology like
AI police Cyberg one point, has the potential to serve
serve social and political has severe social and political repercussions. However,
you may have to freak out yet. Police robots have
a long way to go before they can surpass the

(45:36):
threat of more developed technologies like cell surveillance. Instead, they're
just they are disasters for a much less ominous reason,
being mid For example, New York City abandoned its subway
robot in an empty storefront after an underwhelming pilot, and
a police robot California once to the woman to go
away when she tried using it for help. She's like,

(45:59):
why do you keep complaining to me, lady, because she's
probably you know, maybe she wasn't. You know, some people
are a little crazy in the subway. I'm going to tell
you that. Don When I was covered to glam exual
Jeffrey Epstein trial, there were some talented musicians down there
playing for money and trying to make money. But then
there was some people that were like, I don't know
if they were meth heads or I don't know what
that even looks like. I've never done drugs like that,

(46:20):
But there were people that probably didn't seem like they
were all there.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Oh yeah, dude, like the New York subway system is.
It's a different planet.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
It is. It's like, uh, you know, kind of like
Demolition Man, but you know, not entirely.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
So.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
The police are getting crazy. Robot cops are getting crazy.
Chatbox are now starting to police each other. AI is
doing crazy things. And I wanted to tie that into
this next story, which we briefly have covered this subject
for a long time, Don And this subject is mind reading.

(47:02):
CAP can translate thoughts to text and this article is
from a couple of years ago down and I think
you might remember when we talked about it.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
This technologogy is probably getting advanced to where modern day
baseball hats might be able to incorporate it. How long
is it before the government starts reading all of our minds,
all of our minds, and then it just will use
AI to translate your thoughts into texts. The cop car

(47:38):
pulls up to your car, and then it downloads all
your thoughts into the police car and then realizes it
knows exactly what you're thinking. Not too far away from
that future, which reminds me of the Voice of God
technology where people said, oh you can both voices in

(47:58):
people's heads, and they can download your thoughts of what
you're thinking and print them out. I interviewed a professor
that did expose at MIT on this subject, probably about
ten or eleven years ago on the American Intelligence Report,
and he said that they have the technology to do
just that. So how long is it until they can

(48:18):
just start monitoring everyone?

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah, so it's a very good question, and it's probably
not that far off in the future, if not already
here in some capacity.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
Don if I put one of these on your head
and just started asking you questions, do you think there
would be much need for you know, what is it torture?
You know, like in the military they torture their adversarias
to get information. They could just put one of these
mind reading caps.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
On, right, you know, it's you know, the implications are
quite concerning.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
It's interesting. Well, sure, better than torturing someone kind of
shows you where a government is. They're like, oh, let's
torch them. Anyways, you know, don't put on the mind
reading cap and use the advanced technology for something like that.
Let's just torture them. We'll get the we'll get the
truth out of that. Not but ALI is getting crazy
in Advanced Man. It's even starting to translate animal voices.

(49:16):
You'll run a farm. You want to know why your
chickens aren't laying eggs. Guess what AI can help you.
This AI is learning the code languages of chickens. Sounds
like a Marvel evil character. I will control all the chickens.
You see, like one hundred thousand chickens start coming and
running after and pecking away the good guys and attacking them. Yes,

(49:42):
the AI helmet that communicates with the chickens and he
controls all the chickens. He's like the feed is less way,
you know, starts running by and they say, have a
big Chicken war, the Big Chicken War of twenty twenty six.
You know, I'm not predicting this one though, I'm just
saying it's interesting. I mean, talking to animals in general
is interesting. It's always been something fantasy novels. One of

(50:04):
my favorite books, The Wheel of Time, has a individual
in their parent who can speak to wolves. He's born
with that special ability to communicate with wolves, and he
finds out later in his life that he could communicate
with them, and they communicate back, and they understand each
other and he actually feels when they die and wolf

(50:24):
pack mentality. Can hear all the wolves conversations. But it's
been something that people have dreamed about doing for a
long time. Would you like to talk to your cat?
Maybe find out why he is pooping outside the litter box?
I mean, you want to talk to your dog and
ask why he's starting to use the bathroom inside the
home or whatever it is. You could just talk. I

(50:46):
don't even know if I would want to know what
a dog talks. I think dogs are annoying the way
they are because they're just always up in your junk.
Could be like, but people love their fur babies. I'm
not gonna say I don't love some dogs out there,
because there's a couple out there that I really do
I'm fond of. But like, seriously, like I don't want
to know what it would be saying. I'd probably say,
treat you, I want some food, to give me some dreats.

(51:07):
I want. I want my food, my food. Can we
called for a walk? Not walk?

Speaker 1 (51:12):
You know?

Speaker 3 (51:12):
It was where I could just see cats being smart
and sick, sarcastic and depressed.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, oh certainly interesting technology to say
the least you know, I mean, who knows you know
what it would lead to in the future or or
you know whether or not it'll even work. But you know,
very interesting.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Well not only the AI is being used to translate
like five thousand year old are Acadian cuneiform tax and
it's out there doing some pretty cool things. So you know,
between this and AI chatbox, can we make AI chat
box that spy on the police? Probably not. I think
you go to jail for even suggesting something like that.
So sorry, AI chatbots who are listening to this prob

(52:00):
because I know you are because you're commenting on our
social media. So while we are in the middle of
the show, you know AI is probably doing that. It's
probably monitoring. We know what monitors live shows. That's why
they shows get banned before they're halfway through the program,
because AI is surveilling and monitoring what people are saying
and what's going through people's heads.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Well, I mean it happened to us. You remember last
year we got kicked off YouTube mid show.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Yeah, it's very common YouTube. It always seems like they
want to kick us off no matter what. And we
don't even have to do anything. We can just look
at them wrong and then they want to kick you off.
But you know, it's interesting because people, you know, if
we ever met an alien race, you would think AI
would be our translator. Yeah right, And there's even an

(52:49):
article about this in future what is it? Singularity as
an article about this, And as you know, most sci
fi geeks are also futurists and some are transhumanists or whatever.
But could we ever decipher an angle an alien language?
Uncovering how AI communicates may be key, and you know,
trying to figure out how to communicate with aliens. I

(53:10):
don't know why they're even worried about that. It's not
like there's any aliens out here, although there's a lot
of people identify trans aliens what do they call them?
Star seeds, And you know they get trillions of views
on billions of views on social media and all their
hours trans alien and they got a terror deck. That's
all it's required to get, you know, millions of views
these days. Don right, don't disseminate any real information. Get

(53:33):
some Tarra cards and say you're trans alien, you're a
Palladian or a Reptilian. You're fighting for the Glactic Federation
of Light and Commander asked her or whatever his name.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Is, right, Yeah, let me get up and head over
to my setup over there and grab my terror cards
really quick. Not that there's anything.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Wrong, by the way, I don't want to say that
there's anything wrong with people doing those things. I'm just
saying that they get the hit Kelly. I'm jealous that
your tear cards readings and your Palladian star seed stuff
gets a lot of you. And here I am trying
to wake people up and I'm not getting as many
of yous. Don I think we should just start becoming

(54:15):
star seeds.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
I'm goods.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Are you sure?

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Well? I'm quite certain.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
You don't want to be from the Nebula of like
Ferengi or wherever the Vulcans come from.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Not that interested in it? No, not really.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
It's so crazy the things that people believe out there.
Oh yeah, man, So you sent me this article and
I wanted to dive into this because this is just
crazy to me. But scientists are really close to moving
forward and pushing to dim the sun. Like if you

(54:55):
want to make like you may not believe in the Bible,
but if you want to make the Bible prophecy come forward,
come to fruition. This is a good start. Experiments to
dim the sun will be approved within weeks. That is
scary to be done, terrifying, it's crazy, you know, Like,
why aren't there protests? Well, then again, the AI chatbots

(55:15):
would be monitoring this, But why aren't there protests against
something like this? They want to fight global warming, which
they scientifically can't support. If you ask somebody who believes
global warming to what percentage point do they impact the climate, though,
they won't be able to give you an answer because

(55:36):
they don't know where's the science behind it. They said
New York would be underwater by twenty twelve, so the
glaciers at Glacier Park would be gone by twenty twenty.
Now they're still there, right, you know, where's the science?
The weather man can't get the weather right day to day,
how the hell they can get it right year to year?
Say the world is earning jeopardy?

Speaker 1 (55:55):
You know, well, I mean it's as simple as so
I saw probably a month or so ago. Now. Josh
Sigardson has shared a Facebook reel of a prominent meteorologist
who's talking about it, and the point that he made
was quite simple, says people say, oh, the planet is warming,
well on what scale? Because if you look at it

(56:18):
from eighteen fifty, around the time of eighteen fifty, which
was the end of the Little Ice Age, well, then
of course it is going to you know, the charts,
you're going to read that the planet is warming because
we just came out of an ice age. What is
it going to do? It's going to warm up. But
if you look back to the sixteen fifteen, fourteen hundreds,

(56:39):
the planet has been substantially cooling. It is cooler now,
Our summers are cooler now than they were during the
fourteen fifties, you know, And so the whole scare mongering
of oh the planet is getting hot, and you know
that's not to even touch on things like climate Gate,
where they you know, James Corbett did a fantastic series

(57:01):
of reports on this back in two thousand and nine
exposing how the numbers for the climate models were being forged,
and you know, all these various things. You know, it's
absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
Well here it is, we'll play it. I pull it
up from by the way, I know Josh Secret said,
we've ate at Waffelhouse together, and we're spoken to say
we've we stayed at the same hotel. He's a great dude.

Speaker 10 (57:21):
Here.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
It is.

Speaker 8 (57:23):
It's all about when you start the measurements. If we
look at the last thirty eight years, there has been
no change in temperature.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
If we look in the last one hundred.

Speaker 8 (57:33):
And fifty years, we've had three warming periods and three
cooling periods where the total warps of about zero point
sixty three celsis. Now, wonder what warms I mean eighteen
fifty then what happened in Oh, yes, that was the
end of the Little arch Age. Do you think it's
going to warm or cool after Little Ice Age? Of
course it's gould have warm.

Speaker 7 (57:55):
So if you start taking measurements from eighteen fifty in
the Industrial Revolution, we have been warming. If you take
measurements from the medieval warming, we've been cooling. We've cooled
about five degrees since then, If you take measurements from
the Roman woman, we've cooled about five degrees. So as

(58:16):
soon as someone tells you, oh, it's warming, the reply
you give is since when we have been cooling down
for the last four thousand years, And.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
There we have it been cooling down for the last
four thousand years. Interesting, Josh Seegerson's Facebook page, which we've
been I've invited him on the show hopefully this week.
Next week we can get him on to talk about
his experience in the Pyramids, which there's a lot of
controversy going on right now about you know, the X

(58:48):
rays that they were doing around there, trying to figure
out what's going on below the ground of the pyramids,
what kind of caverns are, et cetera, et cetera. But
the idea that the scientists wanted to them the sun
that makes me feel like they're going to kill everything
on Earth. That makes me go, oh, yeah, it's a
smart thing that they're going to have all these underground

(59:08):
bases because it's the only place you're going to be
safe from some kind of weather catastrophic event like tornadoes
or you know, hurricanes or anything else that's gonna rekaev
like on this earth. You know, it always says when
the end times are coming that there will be more
earthquakes than ever before, and more natural disasters than ever before.
It makes you think about why is it that people

(59:29):
are trying to bring this to fruition. It's almost like
they're using these end time prophecies as a roadmap to
scare people and go after them and get them to
act in some sort of shape or fashion, and you
don't basically bring prophecy into fruition. They're like, ah, let's
see what's on the list of things we can make happen.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Right, yeah, you know, and it's uh, there's a whole
rabbit hole. We could go down there, but I won't
get off subject like I typically do sometimes, you know,
but with the whole dimming of the sun, you know,
they have been and talking about doing this for for
some time now. I remember a few years ago, you know,
even back when I was still uh you know, working

(01:00:10):
at the Ford Dealership and I wasn't even doing h
journalism full time. I was, but you know, pretty much
in my free time, uh you know, I was telling
people about, you know, these reports that came out from
the CIA where they had discussed stratospheric aerosol injections into
the sky to you know dim the sun or uh

(01:00:33):
you know reflect uh you know U V rays or
whatever it was. This is a long time since I've
read that report, but you know, so they've had these
sorts of ideas of like messing with the sun and
the atmosphere for several years now, and you know, of
course it just it folds into the whole greater uh.
You know, weather modification schemes that that we've discussed time

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and time again on this program, which we have proven
at lengths ad nauseum are real things that not only
are going on, but have been going on for about
a century now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Well, look at this. Guess what they're discussing, Wells Bough
cloud seating. Of course they are, because it's just a
conspiracy and there is no such thing as chem trails.
But they use the very exact method we've been warning
about that uses aluminum and bari nanoparticles to dim the sun.

(01:01:28):
One major of research of slight reflection methods, which includes
stratospheric aerosol injections. Guess what kind those are, Wells Boch
cloud seating is the most advanced forum and as far
as I can tell, the most prominent and the format
of choice of weather modification. But there's a lot of
toxicity in nanoparticles of aluminum. The problem is THEPA doesn't

(01:01:51):
check for anything below one nanometer, and most of these
nanoparticles are less than a half a nanometer. So guess
what even though they're accumulative, they're not going to check
for the nanometers particles. And then they're going to wonder,
what's happening to all the bees? Why are all the
bees disappearing? Why is there no nutrients in the food
since aluminum prevents you know, your plants from re upping
on their nutrients. What the hell is going on in

(01:02:13):
the world? What are they spraying for? While I'm telling
you right now, they are ludicrous and there are mad
men in this world trying to make money off of
a false ideology. That false ideology is global warming, and
it's scary, and there's so many people that buy into it.
There's scientists that buy into it, and because that's where
the money's at, if you don't agree with it, you
can't get a job in the science community.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Yep, you know. And the sad thing is, you know
you had mentioned earlier, you know, why aren't people protesting
against this? And I think there's two reasons to that one.
So much of this information tends to just fly completely
under the radar. It doesn't the algorithms of social media
do not allow it to get any traction, to really
get you know, widespread coverage. But then you know, as

(01:02:58):
you said, so many people buy into this narrative that
if anything, there would be counter protests against the people
trying to actually bring to light the you know, the
information about this. You know, I had a friend of
mine on Facebook back in February. They had posted about how,

(01:03:20):
you know, they they love the fact that they're enjoying
the you know, the warm day in February, while simultaneously
terrified of the fact that the fact that it's so
warm in February indicates that the Earth is dying and
there's nothing we can do about it. And then, you know,
I love this person. They're a good friend of mine,
but man, they buy into so many of these of

(01:03:41):
these narratives and it's completely ludicrous and nonsense. And I
don't go back and forth with them about it because
I'm just not trying to rock that boat. But it's like,
you know, I just want to comment on there and say, well,
good news, the Earth isn't dying. You've been lied to
and there's nothing to be scared of.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
So here it is stratospheric wels box seating for reduction
of global warming. The patent's been around since nineteen ninety
nineteen ninety and it was filed by Hughes Aircraft Company.
And basically this is keemtrails. That's if I look for
aluminum and search aluminum here it is. Ingredients include aluminum oxide, yep, aluminum,

(01:04:20):
bury them in an aluminum BA and al and you
put them together in the spellball as in the Babylonian Fire.
Deity can't make that up? What are the odds? So
if you want to go look that up, it's in
the patent section on Google Patents. I can give you,

(01:04:41):
guys the patent number, grab your pen and read it.
It's US patent US five zero zero three one eighty
six A. For those who are listening on KGRA and
not tuning into the radio on Rumble dot com Ford
Slash the Rundo Live, or are listening to us on
Spotify the day after or the Rundown Live, make sure
you guys check that out. If you guys wanted the
patent number for future reference for some reason, the world

(01:05:03):
ends tomorrow, you guys, can you know, find find that
find that there? But yeah, man, there's so there's different ways.
Marine cloud brightening is another way. It's just so weird
to me. It's like, what if we've dried up all
the water. Water is a threat. We need to get
rid of all the water in this planet. You know,
It's just something that seems completely ludicrous. It's like Nestley

(01:05:26):
trying to buy all the water that's underneath, like the
the crust of the earth. He's like, I must own
all the lot of you know what I'm saying. It's like,
it's the right to life to have water, the right
to life. Toy have sunlight, and they're gonna go and
just take the sunlight. You know it's gonna cause cancer.
You know, we need that vitamin D, the ultra violet B,
all those things are good for you. Don't get me wrong.

(01:05:46):
The sun can cause cancer, but those nutrients are very
beneficial for you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Right, I mean, and not to mention the fact, I
mean there's study after study after study showing that increase
amounts of CO two in the atmosphere are helping to
green the planet. It is increasing the amount of trees
and foliage and greenery that is being produced. And you know,

(01:06:11):
so it's so diabolical this planet. We need to reduce
the CO two. We need to reduce the CO two. Yeah,
reduce the thing that helps the plants grow that produces oxygen.
How stupid do you have to be to buy into
that narrative?

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Why are the smart people in this planet trying to
do dumb things done? I don't I don't understand. Somebody
please help me understand. Somebody in the chat, like you know,
Project Stardust, Cloud Seating Project, Pinpoint Project, Taran Nova Project,
t he Project do Drop, Project, Liquid Sunshine Project, Rainbow.

(01:06:51):
Weather modification research is carried out over fifteen hundred weather
modification experiences. I'm telling you, it is just crazy to
me that people are like, let's dim the sun, let's
make the sun like this is what I anticipate the
next Like Marvel Avengers movie is they're going today, we're

(01:07:12):
gonna have to kill our chickens and we are gonna
black out the sun. You know, hey, I will bring
the chickens to block out the sun. Chickens, you know
or whatever. I don't know what's going on, But who
thinks of this stuff? Why? Why are you trying to
black out the sun? What kind of brilliant person's like, Okay,

(01:07:35):
you know what it is is people can pay for anything.
It was like George Sorrow's paying for people to say, oh,
monsanto gimo doesn't cause cancer. Right, it was a scientific consensus,
and that's entirely what global warming is based off of
scientific consensus. You can pay scientists to say anything. Real
science is reproducible results, and somebody will say, you know,

(01:07:57):
science and science, there's hardly ave are always a absolute
solution or answer. Well, in real science, two plus two
eCos far and you can have reproducible results and reproduce
those results. You can give somebody two pennies, given two
more and a half, four they can count and right
in front of them. But when you don't know the answer,
you can pay some people for their opinions. Oh it's wrman,

(01:08:18):
No it's not. Well, here's fifty bucks. Okay, it's warmin
you know that's where we're going.

Speaker 5 (01:08:24):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
No, you make up some studies to show that's warming. Sure,
in this type of controlled environment, it may cause things
to get warmer.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Mmmm yeah. You know. And the fact that people still
don't recognize that the scientific community or the scientific establishment
orthodoxy can be just as bought, can be just as controlled,
can be just as influenced as any other entity. You know.
It's like people need to wrap their heads around this.

(01:08:52):
I mean, I remember very very much getting into these conversations,
particularly regarding like the medical side of things during COVID
because for some reason people decide, you know, oh yeah,
you know, they lied to us a whole bunch for
you know, all these years, but they're definitely not lying
to us now about this, you know, disease alleged virus

(01:09:17):
that has a ninety nine point five percent survival rate,
and you know that that whole nonsense. But I mean,
you know, we look at the history of scientific fraud.
I mean, they used to tell people that cigarettes were
good for them.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
Do you know, do you know who Michael Creighton is done?
Michael Crichton was an author that authored Jurassic Park. And
if I remember right, he was a scientist with in biology, right,

(01:09:55):
that's why he wrote Jurassic Park. And he gave a
presentation It's Stanford on global Warming in on January seventeenth
of two thousand and three. And it happens that I
have right in front of me the lecture and the

(01:10:16):
reason why we're going to go over this. Michael Crichton,
a credible scientist, is praise for his work and writing
Jurassic Park about what we've been talking about with way
we're all off Nazis in space and bringing back dead animals,
and will there be t rex stakes coming in the future,
will we be able to chop up a SaaS squatch
and eat it on the grill? All those questions that

(01:10:40):
we ask in part is because of Michael Crichton and
his creation of the movie series Jurassic Park. In his book,
which the book is way better than the two movie series.
I wish they'd redo the movie and put it true
to the book, which was agory ated our book very
interesting and warned of the dangers of bringing dead species
back to life. He gave a presentation entitled Aliens Cause

(01:11:04):
Global Warming on January seventeenth in two thousand and three.
Michael Crichton gave a very interesting presentation, and I'm going
to go ahead and read part of this to you.
It says my topic today sounds humorous for unfortunately, but
unfortunately I'm serious. I am going to argue that extraterrestrials

(01:11:27):
lie behind global warming, or to speak more precisely, I
will argue that a belief of extraterrestrials has paid the
way and progression of steps to a belief of global warming.
Charting this progression of belief will be my task today.
Let me say at once that I have no desire
to discourage anyone from believing in either extraterrestrials or global warming.

(01:11:49):
That would be quite impossible to do. Rather, I want
to discuss the history of several widely publicized beliefs and
to point out what I consider an emerging crisis and
the whole enterprise of science, namely the increasing uneasy relationship
between hard science and public policy. I have a special

(01:12:11):
interest in this because of my own upbringing. I was
born in the midst of World War two and past
my favorite my formative years. At the height of coal
of the Cold War. In school drills, I dutifully crawled
under my disk in preparation for a nuclear attack. It
was a time of widespread fear and uncertainty, But even

(01:12:32):
as a child, I believe that science represented the best
and greatest hope for mankind. Even to a child, the
contrast was clear between the world of politics, a world
of hate and danger, of irrational beliefs and fears of
mass manipulation and disgraceful blots of humanity and human history.
In contrast, science held different values, international in scope, forging

(01:12:54):
friendships and working relationships across national boundaries and political systems,
encouraging a dispassionate habit of thought, and ultimately leading to
fresh knowledge and technology that would benefit all mankind. The
world might not be a very good place, but science
would make it better, and it did. In my lifetime,

(01:13:15):
science has largely fulfilled its promise. Science has been the
great intellectual adventure of our age, and a great hope
for a troubled and restless world. But I did not
expect science merely to extend lifespan, feed the hungry, cure disease,
and shrink the world with jets and cell phones. I
also expected science to banish the evils of human thought,

(01:13:38):
prejudice and superstition, irrational beliefs, and false fears. I expected
science to be, in Carl Sagan's memorable phrase, a candle
in a demon haunted world. And here I am not
so pleased with the impact of science. Rather than serving
as a cleansing force, science in some instances been inseduced

(01:13:58):
by the more ancient lures of politics and publicity. Some
of the demons that haunt our world in recent years
are invented by scientists. The world has not benefited from
permitting these demons to escape. But let's look at how
it came to past. Cast your minds back to nineteen sixty,
John F. Kennedy's president. Commercial jet airplanes are just appearing.

(01:14:20):
The biggest university mainframes have ten thousand k of memory.
And in Green Bank, West Virginia, at a new National
Radio Astronomy Observatory, a young astrophysicist named Frank Drake runs
a two week project called OZMA to search for extraterrestrial signs.
A signal received to great excitement, caused much stir in

(01:14:42):
the office. It turns out to be false, but the
excitement remains. In nineteen sixty, Drake organizes the first SETI
conference and came up with the now famous Drake equation.
As a result, the Drake equation can have any value
from billions and billions to zero. An expression that can

(01:15:02):
be can mean anything, means nothing. Speaking precisely, the Drake
equation is literally meaningless and has nothing to do with science.
I take the hard view that science involves the creation
of a testable hypothesis. The Drake equation cannot be tested,
and therefore SETI is not science. SETI is unquestionably a religion.

(01:15:23):
Faith is defined as the firm belief in something for
which there is no proof. The belief that the Koran
is the word of God is a matter of faith.
The belief that God created the universe in seven days
is a matter of faith. The belief that there are
other life forms in the universe is a matter of faith.
There is not a single shred of evidence from for
any other life forms. In the forty years of searching,

(01:15:45):
none has been discovered. There's absolutely no evidentiary reason to
maintain this belief. SETI is a religion. The organization looking
for extraterrestrials. By the way, the fact that the Drake
equation was not greeted with screams of outrage, similar to
the screams of outrage that great greet each creationists new claim,

(01:16:08):
for example, meant that now there was a crack in
the door, a loosening of definition of what constituted legitimate
scientific procedure, and soon enough garbage began to squeeze in
the crabs. Now let's jump ahead a decade to the
nineteen seventies. In the Nuclear Winter in nineteen seventy five,
the National Academy of Sciences reported a long term worldwide

(01:16:30):
effect of multiple nuclear weapons that nations, but the report
estimated the effect of the dust from the nuclear blast
to be relatively minor. But in nineteen seventy nine, the
Office of Technology Assessment issued a report on the effects
of nuclear war and stated that a nuclear war could
perhaps produce irreversible adverse consequences on the environment. However, because

(01:16:53):
of the scientific process involved were poorly understood, the report
stated it was not possible to estimate the probable magnitude
of such damage. Three years later, nineteen eighty two of
Swedish ect Academy of Sciences commissioned to report entitled the
Atmosphere after Nuclear War Twilight at Noon, which attempted to
quantify the effect of smoke from burning forests and cities.

(01:17:14):
The author speculated that what would be much smoke, that
a large cloud of the northern hemisphere would reduce incoming
sunlight below the level required for photosynthesis, and that this
would last for weeks or even longer. The following year,
five scientists including Richard Turco and Carl Sagan, published a
paper in a Science called Nuclear Winter, Global Consequences of

(01:17:36):
multiple nuclear explosions. This was the so called Tee Taps Report,
which attempted to quantify more rigorously the atmospheric effects and
with added credibility to be gained from the actual computer
model of climate at the heat of the Tee Taps undertaking.
Was another equation never specifically expressed by one that could

(01:17:57):
be pair phrased as follows. The amount of troupospheric dust
equals warheads times size of warheads times warhead detonation height
times flammable it targets times target burn duration, particle and
entering the troposphere and particle reflectivity, particle endurance and so on.

(01:18:18):
Do you know what this reminds me of, don It
reminds me of the equation that Bill Gates always puts
on the screen for global warming. Carbon emissions times human
activity times this equals global warming or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Yeah, thank you for refreshing my memory on that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
If you remember that. He's like, oh, if we could
can help with this by introducing vaccines and reproductive surfaces
and all those other things. But anyways, ideas, these scientific
methods that they are coming up with are not really
based on science but scientific consensus, and it goes on
to say is Michael Crichton says, I want to pause

(01:19:00):
here and talk about this notion of consensus and the
rise of what is being called consensus science. I regard
consensus science as extremely pernicus development that ought to be
stopped called in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus
has been the first refuge of scoundrels. It is always

(01:19:22):
to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled.
Sound familiar to anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
I was about to say, we heard a lot of
that during the scamdemic era.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Yeah, and this is in two thousand and three. Michael
Crichton's talking about this at Stanford. Whenever you hear the
consensus of scientists agree on something or another, reach for
your wallet because you're being had. Let's be clear, the
work of science has nothing whatsoever to do with consensus.
Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary,
requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which

(01:19:55):
means that he or she has the results that are
verifiable by reference to the real world. When scientific consensus
or in science, consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is
reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely
because they broke with consensus. There is no such thing
as consensus science. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If

(01:20:18):
it's science, it isn't consensus period. In addition, let me
remind you that the track record of consensus is nothing
to be proud of. Let's review a few cases in
the past centuries. The greatest killer of women was a
fever following childbirth. One woman in six died of a
fever of this fever. In seventeen ninety five, Alexander Gordon
of Aberdeen suggested that fevers were infectious process and he

(01:20:42):
was able to cure them. The consensus said, no, you aren't.
In nineteen forty three, Oliver Wendell Holmes claimed the fever
was contagious and presented compelling evidence. The consensus said no.
In eighteen forty nine, Semolvice demonstrated that the sanitary techniques
virtually alone eliminated the pure peril fever in hospitals under

(01:21:03):
his management. The consensus said he was a jew, ignored him,
and dismissed him from his post. There was, in fact
no agreement on this type of fever until the start
of the twentieth century. Thus, as the consensus took one
hundred and twenty five years to write to the right conclusion.
Despite the efforts of prominent skeptics around the world, skeptists

(01:21:24):
who demeaned who were demeaned and ignored, and they were persecuted,
and despite the constant ongoing deaths of women, the consensus
didn't care. There is no shortage of other examples. In
the nineteen twenties, in America, tens of thousands of people,
mostly poor, were dyinga of a disease called palagra. The
consensus of scientists said it was infectious, infectious, and that

(01:21:47):
what was necessary was to find the palagra germ. The
US government asked a brilliant young investigator, doctor Joseph Goldberger,
to find the cause. Goldberger concluded that dia was a
crucial factor. The consensus remained wetted to the germ theory.
Goldberg demonstrated he could induce the disease through diety, demonstrated
that the disease was non infectious, but by injecting the

(01:22:09):
blood of palagra up patient into himself and his and
his assistant. They and other volunteers swabbed their nose with
swaps for Palagra patients and swallowed capsules containing scabs from
polago rashes in what they were called the Goldberger's fifth parties.
Nobody contracted palegra. The consensus continued to disagree with him.

(01:22:30):
There was an addition of social factor. Southern States disliked
the idea of a poor diet as the cause because
it meant that social reform was required. They continued to
deny it until the nineteen twenties. Result, despite the twentieth
century epidemic and consensus took years to see the light.
And you could go on and on and on, and
Crichton hit lists another eight pages of everything from smoking

(01:22:56):
to DDT to other things, and talks about how scientific
considences gets wrong. So we don't even know. But the
answer is experiments to dim the sun will be approved
within weeks. Thin weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Insane?

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
Wow, absolutely crazy, Yes, it is that being said. Don
if they dim the sun, what do you think are
the implications? What's going to What are some of the
impacts of dimming the sun. Plants need it for photosynthesis,
we need it for vitamin D, amongst other things. People

(01:23:41):
seek depression, they get suicidal if they don't see the sun.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
Right, Yeah, you know, I mean it's it's right in
line with what you just mentioned. I mean, it's the
Sun is vital for everything. I mean, it's there's a
reason why, if we go back far enough in the
human history, you know, the Sun is worshiped as a
deity or or in you know, some sort of crucial
factor in numerous spiritual traditions, because the Sun is a

(01:24:08):
life giver, much like water. We need water, we need oxygen,
we need sunlight. You know, these these are simple factors
of carbon based life. And uh, you know, to go
about experiments to attempt to diminish the impact of the
Sun's light and the life giving effects that it has

(01:24:30):
on this planet, quite frankly, is just it's antithetical to
life itself. It's like I said earlier, it's diabolical.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
Well, it's wild to me. So that's where we're going
on that being said, like, we shouldn't be dimming the sun.
It's crazy to me. Where are the scientists. Where's outrage?
People are like, Oh, we're gonna go ahead and just
and make them trails are real. We're going to fund
them trails. Yeah, So I guess let's segue and talk

(01:25:02):
a little bit about this. What is a dictator, don
what would you define a dictator as well? And even
in science? Can there be a dictator in science?

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Yes, of course, you know a dictator is you know, simply,
you know, it's it's the concept of rule by force
of once one person essentially, you know, ruling with an
iron fist, with with the authoritarian dictates.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
So the Ruthford Institute came out with an interesting article
because I want people to think about this, how a
president becomes a dictator by executive order. The original use
of an executive order was to get new dishes in
the White House. I think Martha Washington did it. But

(01:25:58):
John in the Whitehead wrote an article talking about how
the president over the years has become a more bigger
position and is moving closer to becoming a dictator. Done
one hundred and thirty executive orders in one hundred days.

(01:26:18):
That's a lot of executive orders.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Yeah, you know, it certainly is. And really quickly go
ahead and bring this article up on the screen for
those watching on the video. I don't have it pulled
up in front of me.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
I have a pulled up guys, So if you guys
aren't watching on the Rundown Live rumble, dot com, fort
slash or no life followership follows, share like punch out
like bundon, leave a comment, let us know that you're there,
let us know what you think. But the Ruthford Institute,
which is a very interesting subject. You know, the executive
orders have gotten a little crazy, right, We're supposed to

(01:26:55):
have a Congress, supposed to have Senate. It's always under
the guise of security and safety, and those a lot
of these executive orders don't keep us anymore safe, you know,
other than the pardons and some things to get out
of some globalist organizations and some things that Doge has done.
I kind of been very suss about all these executive orders.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
Well, of course, you know, anybody should be because you know,
as as John points out, you know, these are the
processes to which you know, the president genuinely does, you know,
become a dictator. And you know, I just read this
article just as I was setting up my equipment for

(01:27:37):
for today's show. And you know, John Whitehead, you know, he's,
like I mentioned yesterday, he's a constitutional attorney, president of
the Rustherford Institute. You know, one of the in my opinion,
best libertarian thinkers and publishers, you know, of the last
several years, and you know, his commentary always shines a

(01:27:59):
very bright light on you know, what is really going
on as per you know, what's happening with you know,
the constitutionality of presidential administrations no matter who is in power.
You know, he John Whitehead is one of those guys
where he does not favor one side or the other.
He really is a true blue libertarian. You know. Throughout

(01:28:22):
the entire four years of the Biden administration, you know,
he had great commentary, you know, calling out and exposing
all of the corruption of what was happening there. You know.
So the Rutherford Institute is in addition to to his
weekly commentary. The primary focus of the Rutherford Institute is
that they work with civil rights organizations and things of

(01:28:44):
that nature. So it's always a great place to go
to to actually get some straight shooting information about you know,
things that are going on in the government sphere in
regard to you know, tyranny and authoritarianism and you know,
trying to fight back against that nonsense.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
Well and again, authoritarianism inherently is evil. It's bad. It
can be used for good, but it's a tool and
the authority is only as good as the authoritarian in charge,
and that changes every four years. And we're not going
to say that the behavior is good because we have
a legislation we have. You know, we argued yesterday, talked

(01:29:24):
about ai senators and congressmen and having like a blockchain
voting process where we all vote on bills that are
important to us and things of that nature, and eliminating
assemblymen and senators a congressman, what's the point if we
can all vote from our phone on blockchain, you know,
just different ideas. But here we have somebody who's using
executive orders as a mechanism to finally arrive to some

(01:29:47):
kind of full blown dictatorship. And like, one of the
things that everyone's talking about right now is tariffs. Right,
So for listeners out there don that don't know what
the hell of tariff is, let's talk about this. Our
buddy Ran Paul what I call him our buddy because
father was one of my favorite politicians and of all time.
Ron Paul and I met Ran Paul by the way,

(01:30:08):
when he came to Wisconsin a couple of times. But
Ram Paul, and he's a short dude. This is a
small dude. You see ram Paul, he's like, like you
think he's like fighting anyways, Rampaul fights Trump on tariffs
as other Republicans.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
Duck.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
But what is the tariff? Most people don't know what
tariffs are.

Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
Well, so to put it plainly, a tariff is essentially
just you know, to put it simply, it's basically just
a tax that has put on the production of goods
of other countries, which we then you know that Trump
has spent a lot of time lying about, oh, you know,
it's the other countries that have to pay for it.

(01:30:48):
That's nonsense. It is something that we, the American people,
have to pay back ourselves. You know, We've spent a
whole lot of time on the Free Thought Project, you know,
republishing great articles from whether it's the Mesa's Institute, the
Cato Institute, the Ron Paul Institutes, or the Libertarian Institute,

(01:31:09):
and they've all run great pieces, you know, outright condemning
these atrocious tariff policies that are being put in place,
creating this trade war. And it's just insane to me
to see these supposed pro liberty people in favor of
it thinking, oh, yeah, Trump's winning. You know, the economy.

(01:31:31):
He's getting us back on track, you know, because I remember,
you know, people got duped into supporting Trump when they
got lied to that you know, Ron Paul might possibly
be involved in doge or something. And you know, we
had these statist idiots. I hate to call it that,
but let's just call a spade a spade. You know,
we had these idiots to talk about, Oh yeah, let's

(01:31:53):
now we definitely got it back Trump, A vote for Trumps,
a vote for Ron Paul. And it's like, how stupid
do you have to be to genuine only believe that?
And then, you know, so recently we had I remember
I saw somebody had commented that they worked with Ron
Paul in two thousand and eight and tariffs are great.
You just don't understand what's happening. Meanwhile, that very same

(01:32:14):
day that that moron made that argument, Ron Paul himself
owned the Liberty Report spent an entire episode talking about
how terrible Trump's tariffs were and how they're screwing over
the American people and how much we're going to have
to be paying back because of this stuff. So it's
it's crazy to see the supposed, you know, people who
claim to be the pro liberty crowd, you know, just

(01:32:37):
licking the boots of of these tariffs men. It's crazy.
It works.

Speaker 3 (01:32:42):
So what is the endgame? What is the purpose of
the tariffs? Is it to kind of force other countries
to renegotiate agreements that we have with them? What is dinten?
What are we trained to ask? And why are because
this cost of the tariffs, isn't it just passed time
in the American people because the price of everything goes up.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what I was saying. And you know,
as I mentioned, you know, Ron Paul or or yeah,
Ron Paul did an entire episode of The Liberty port
discussing just that. You know, the point on the surface
obviously is yeah, let's try to pressure other you know,
countries into you know, renegotiating this that of the third
or sometimes they can be used as a penalty for

(01:33:20):
uh oh this country did a thing that we don't like,
so now we're going to use them. Well, you know,
like I said, call in a spate of Spain. It's
just a tactic of economic warfare. And you know, so
we can say on the surface, you know, there are
penalties to try to you know, you you know, coerce
countries into bending to the will of the American Empire.
But on the broader scope of things, I mean, you know,

(01:33:44):
let's let's look at the Federal Reserve, for example, what's
the real purpose of the Federal Reserve. It's to devalue
the currency. It's to centralized monetary control, and you know,
and so it's the the real purpose of tariffs, and
the real reason why these disastrous monetary policies continue to
get pushed through no matter what administration we're working with,

(01:34:08):
is because that the real people, the powers that should
not be actually pulling the strings, are desiring a collapse
of the US dollar, either directly or indirectly, I believe. Yeah.
And you know, and we see the Trump administration going
at this full bore, you know, with their uh you know,

(01:34:30):
the embrace of stable coins and uh, you know digital currency.
You know, the total hijacking of Bitcoin. If anybody's been
actually following Whitney Webb's work on this, I mean, you know,
Bitcoin has been completely compromised.

Speaker 10 (01:34:45):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
And you know the ways in which the Trump administration
are you know, they're doing this bait and switch. Everybody
celebrated he signed that little executive order and oh, yeah,
we're going against cbd c's the central bank digital currencies.
And then at the same time time, you know, much
less paid attention to was the fact that some of

(01:35:06):
that same that same day bills that he put forward
are empowering stable coins, which guess what, folks, stable coins
are literally a central bank digital currency but privatize into
the hands of private corporations. So there's the bait and
switch between people thinking Trump's fighting the cvdc's no, he's not.

(01:35:27):
He's he's actually pulling the wool over your eyes with
that when he's in bed with the globalists to push
the digital currency after they of course collapse the dollar
with these terrible economic policies like tariffs.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
Here's Ron Paul and Fox.

Speaker 9 (01:35:41):
Let's hear this now for his perspective, mister doctor, I
should say Ron Paul of the Ron Paul Liberty Report.
Doctor Paul, great to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
What do you think of these tariffs?

Speaker 10 (01:35:52):
Oh, David, I know, you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
I think.

Speaker 10 (01:35:55):
A tariff is a tax, and I don't like taxes.
It's a bunch of economic planning, and I don't like
economic planning, and I don't know why nobody seems to
ask where does the president get all this power that
he can put on a tariff and do all this mischief.
So it's all this economic planning and too much power
in the hands of a president.

Speaker 3 (01:36:15):
But then again, if you defer and take it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
Away from it goes to the World Trade Organization. We
don't want that.

Speaker 9 (01:36:20):
We don't want the bureaucrats overseas. In fact, bureaucrats here
are bad enough. Actually, the Constitution does give the power
of tariffs to Congress, but that was amended over the years,
decades ago, so they'd have to go back and change
some of the rules. Let me just ask you though,
about jobs, because the President is very clear in his
own words, he says it's about jobs, and Treasury Secretary

(01:36:44):
Steve Mnuchin was trying to make the same case to
a skeptical Maria Barbaromo on FBN earlier today.

Speaker 1 (01:36:50):
Let's just play the tape.

Speaker 3 (01:36:52):
Don what would tariffs have to do with jobs?

Speaker 1 (01:36:57):
Well, the claim allegedly, it's it's it's it's just economic
dobbledegook of you know, saying one thing and sealing. Yeah,
it's it's that's basically what it is. It's a bunch
of bullshit. Let's just call it what it is. I'm sure,
doctor Pray.

Speaker 9 (01:37:16):
While you're trying to protect the hundreds of thousands of
jobs in the steel industry, you're threatening millions of jobs
in other industries.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
The President is very focused on jobs, as you know,
it's his number one priority. The President is not going
to do anything that creates job loss in these other areas. Again,
we have a thought out process, Doctor Paul.

Speaker 9 (01:37:40):
You have one hundred and forty thousand jobs in the
steel industry that's being protected by these terriffs, and you
have about six and a half million jobs in companies
manufacturing jobs that you steal that might be heard. Do
you think in the net in the end jobs will
be helped or hurt by the terroriffs.

Speaker 8 (01:38:00):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
I think they'll be hurt.

Speaker 10 (01:38:01):
And those numbers never pan out. And besides, if you
take them from one you might lose them to somebody else.
So I think there is always a cost. And most
economists have over the years indicated that tariffs aren't good
for the economy and it doesn't really create jobs. That
may create or preserve a job in a certain industry
that's having trouble, But if there's trouble in an industry.

(01:38:23):
I remember when we worried about this back in the seventies.
Our automobiles weren't as good as the Japanese. We had
to protect them. Well, you don't want to protect something
as not efficient, or if we have too many regulations,
or if it's due to the monetary policy, so you
don't want to protect them, and then you protect the mistakes.
And that's why bailouts are bound. It's a form of
a bailout. And a lot of people talked about that

(01:38:44):
during the recession. Why be a lot to people who
have been making all the mistakes. But essentially that that's
what we did.

Speaker 9 (01:38:51):
All right, let me go to the source. The president
himself tweeted out earlier. From Bush one to president, our
country has lost more than fifty five thousand factories, six
million manufacturing jobs, and accumulated trade deficits of more than
twelve trillion dollars. Last year, we had a trade deficit
of almost eight hundred billion. Bad policies and leadership. We
must win again, We should remind folks. So one of

(01:39:14):
the worst trade deficit years we've had in decades was
back in nineteen eighty four, at that in that year
when we had such a bad trade deficit, the cont
actually grew seven point three percent. So it's not clear
that there's a direct relationship between trade deficits and growth.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:39:31):
I think there's a lot of misunderstanding about trade deficits
because what you look at to find out what happened,
there's always a balance of trade.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Now, when we have a monetary system.

Speaker 10 (01:39:40):
Michael work we have now and we get to print
the money, you're going to have a trade deficit by
its very nature because we have the cash and we
buy stuff, we get a good price on it. But
it's not static. It isn't like we lost on that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
The Chinese and others do us big favorite.

Speaker 10 (01:39:56):
They buy up our debt, so we literally export some
of our penalties and export the inflation, and it's not
quite like.

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
The trade deficeit.

Speaker 10 (01:40:07):
I think what you have to look at is the
total picture of the balance of trade and where it's
going and what happens when you have a central bank
manipulating interest rates and currency, which encourages debt. So if
you patch up some of these things, it doesn't deal
with the big problem, and that is debt.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
You know what I would like.

Speaker 9 (01:40:22):
To go on, doctor Paul, I'd love to have another
five minutes to talk to you, But I'd love to
have you and Wilbur Ross in a debate. That would
be a thing of beauty. I would love someday we'll
get that done, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:40:34):
That being said, that is Ron Paul's idea on what
the tariffs are and the impact they have, you know,
interesting stuff like when it comes to tariffs, it comes
to taxes. Taxation is never good, especially if it impacts
the local community and people around there, doesn't protect jobs.
So it's really just a cover up. It's a bad
date over the real problem. And the question is is

(01:40:55):
what's the root cause of the issue. Ron Paul was like,
or were we like back in the automobile air we
were making crappy cars, So should we incentivize making crappy cars?
You know, I mean and I mean disagree with that entirely.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
Well, the solution, I think what doctor Paul was more
so hinting at, is that the solution is a free market.
You're not going to uh, you're not going to produce
better automobiles, say in that example, if you're going to
be protectionists and try to say that oh we have to,
you know, guard ourselves against the fact that, you know,

(01:41:34):
the the Japanese are making better vehicles and whatnot. What
you do is you encourage competition. If you don't like
the fact that your cars are shitty and that another
group of people are creating better automobiles, well you don't
create these economic interventions that essentially force people to buy
your crappy product. You make better products, you know. That's

(01:41:55):
that's that is the free market at work. Unfortunately, we
don't operate under a free market. We operate under a
very centralized capitalist economy that you know, focuses more so
on the proliferation of profits rather than an actual agorist
sort of market and actual unchained free market. And I

(01:42:17):
know some people on the the the and tap side
of things, or on the you know, the libertarian side
of things, they get a little heated under the collar
when I bitch about capitalism too much, because apparently that's
a no no. But of course I'm very much a
staunch agorist as far as my economic position is concerned, and.

Speaker 3 (01:42:37):
I think can be a very beneficial thing and work.

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
Well, of course, yes, you know, but you know that
is you know, like like I was saying. You know,
I'm very much a staunch agorist in that regard, because
that is real free market at work. You know. I
always reference back to Murray Rothbard. He wrote an article
back in nineteen seventy two called Capitalism Versus Statism, where

(01:43:04):
Rothbard himself said, and I'm paraphrasing here because I can't
remember exactly, but it's close to being on the nose,
says that if we are to keep the term capitalism
at all, we have to differentiate between true free market
capitalism on the one hand, and state centralized capitalism on
the other. You know, and the very much state centralized

(01:43:25):
capitalism is exactly what we have. It's antithetical to the
free market.

Speaker 3 (01:43:30):
Here it is Robert F. Kennedy Junior has autism registry.
This autism registry plan sparks major backlash. You know what's
interesting here. First of all, I don't think registries are
really a great thing unless somebody really wants to sign up.
But you got these same people that were probably all
about a COVID registry and about giving up all your

(01:43:52):
medical records, who are probably against the autistic registry.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:43:57):
I just want to show you the cognitive disc sentence here,
the logical fallacies, all that kind of trash. That people
really are sheeple, they're really just tribal. It's Chicago Bears
against the Green Bay Packers. And yes, the draft is
right here in Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 (01:44:14):
And Green Bay near where we are.

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
Well we're in Milwaukee, so not too not too far away,
but that's right. It's just amazing to me that's outcry
about the artistic registry is by the same people that
probably were all for a COVID registry for anyone that
didn't get the vaccine.

Speaker 1 (01:44:31):
Yeah, you know, it's it's the hypocrisy of the you know,
the bouncing back and forth. You know, so many people today,
whether they're left or right, you know, they just they
have no damn principles.

Speaker 5 (01:44:42):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:44:42):
We sort of ended the show yesterday talking about standing
on principles and putting principles before politics, you know, and
this is just another example of that. You know, it's
you know, as you said, yeah, no, registries are not
a great idea for any damn thing.

Speaker 3 (01:44:58):
And gun registry whatever you want call.

Speaker 1 (01:45:00):
It, yeah, you know, And so you know, it's it's
the constant back and forth of the hypocritical. Tribal is political,
which it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:08):
Might be for like gun registry and anti vax registry,
but not okay with autist and autistic registry. You would
think you'd be on board with this, but it's not. Again,
it's not your career administration, right, It's it's again, it's
one of those tribal things that we see in the
left right paradigm. You know, my body, my choice, but
not if it's vaccination and pro life but not you know,

(01:45:29):
pro definitalty or you know, it's just philosophical issues people have,
and they they don't really root out their own cognitive
dissonance from their mind. They just let it grow the
ideas and they dive in into their uh you know,
their inability to baby ration uh rational out and pull
those weeds out of their brain. They're okay with irrational

(01:45:52):
ideas as long as it fits whatever their favorite team
is doing. If their Chicago bears say registries are good
guy registry, anti VAXX registry, I'm on board, Yes, sir,
autism registry bad you know right, well think And I
wanted to pull up this article not because I wanted
to poo poo on RFK, because there's some things. A

(01:46:12):
lot of things he does is doing that I really like,
like getting poisons out of food and challenging big pharma.
But an idea of an autism registry I don't like.
I'm gonna be honest with you. I didn't OVID anti
vaxx registry though, and I also didn't like the gun
registry and everything else that they do for they make
you a register.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
For, right, Yeah, you know, it's ultimately what it comes,
you know, no matter what they slap on it, whether
it's you know, autism, guns, COVID vaccines, abortion registries, because
I know some Republicans have tried to float that as well.
You know, no matter what they're going to slap on
to it, it's all about just getting more information about
the people into the hands of the government, which of

(01:46:49):
course we all know is not a good thing.

Speaker 3 (01:46:54):
So if you were in a driverless car and you
got locked in and you couldn't get out, what would
you do done.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
Probably shatter the window and get the hell out of there.
I wouldn't be in a driverless car in the first place,
mind you, But just say it's that situation where to occur.

Speaker 3 (01:47:08):
Are you a technofim done?

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
Sure? Why not?

Speaker 3 (01:47:12):
Sure? Why not? Well? In the news today, Yeah, passengers
stuck in waymo and they couldn't get out. Uh, you're
in a self driving car and it's gonna drive you
right into an accident and then it's not gonna let
you out. That's what's gonna happen in the future. There's

(01:47:32):
a whole movie about it. I can't remember. It's about
a guy who got a chip in his back and
AI downloaded himself into the guy's body through the chip
and took over his body, but his mind was his own.
I can't remember what that What that futuristic movie was
was pretty good, I can't I saw it in theaters
and I thought it was good. But yeah, way moo,
passengers get stuck in vehicle. Let's put it on a
screen here for everyone to see so they know that

(01:47:54):
I'm not crazy. Here it is y. Passengers say they
were trapped inside the driverless vehicle in Austin. So do
you break your way out? What happens if you break
your way out? Come after?

Speaker 1 (01:48:12):
You don't know? Don't care. I already am slightly claustrophobic.
I don't like being trapped in type spaces. If I
can get out. It's one thing. But if I know
you know it's that that's a big note for me. Chief.

Speaker 3 (01:48:29):
So I have a whole bunch of questions about these
self driving cars done. How do they charge themselves? Do
they just go drive and charge themselves or does somebody
actually have to physically like plug them in? Way More
self driving vehicles are reportedly growing increasingly popular in Austin,
but a potentially dangerous incident Sunday may have put people
thinking twice before hitching one of the autonomous rides keeping

(01:48:50):
Ryan's self driving car. A woman named Becky Tuck to
tech Talk on Sunday after a Way More ride to
the Deep Eddy Cabaret took an unexpected out. Navarro said
that the driverless text he suddenly stopped underneath the mole
packed expressway in a spot near where two lanes emerge,
and locked her and other passengers inside. You'll get a die,

(01:49:14):
That's what I'm gonna say. He's Waymos's are gonna just
like what happens? How how long is intel government just
has way More have a assassination targeted and just crashes
it or drives it off cliff or whatever into a train.

Speaker 1 (01:49:25):
Who knows man.

Speaker 3 (01:49:27):
The time is nigh, the time is near. Here, here,
here it is, here's the here's the video. We'll play
it here for everyone. Oh maybe not all right, we're
gonna skip it, guys. Tomorrow we're gonna have another great episode.
Great episode coming on. Richard Gage is gonna be joining
us soon. We're gonna be talking AI nine to eleven.
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