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That's kind of late. A lot of people are up late, though,
and our show's pretty interesting. We talk a lot about futurism.
If you're tuning in for the first time, we're gonna

(05:49):
be diving into the dire wolves and womb transplants and
secret at military bases under the ground and all this
weird stuff that's out there. We might bring on some
of our friends, not today, but this week to talk
about the pyramid finds, see what they got going on there.
My buddy Hugh Newman and Andrew Collins have been down there.
I've spent time with both those individuals. We've bonded, we've

(06:09):
hung out, we've gone places together. I know them on
a personal level. So I'll have to reach out to
those dirty swashbucklers over there where. I in Egypt last
I saw doing research about something to deal with like
underground caverns done. I'm not quite sure about all the
details because I kind of took a lotifaication from the news.
It was good, it was weird, man. I know you

(06:30):
haven't had the opportunity to do that. But I completely
unplugged mostly other than robot news. I stayed up on
my robot news.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, No, I definitely did not unplug. You know, I've
you know, I'm the editor for the Free Fault Project.
I'm helping Derek Rose over the Conscious Resistance. So this
whole time off, I have very much stayed busy. It's
been an interesting time for me actually, these past few months.
Quite quite the journey. Just over the short time that

(07:02):
we've been off. You know, I had a bit of
a medical issue back in March. My chronic anxiety that
I've lived with my entire life really started to kick
my ass. I started to have these really bad chronic
panic attacks several hours a day, every single day, and
it was just awful. It had me very afraid something
bad was happening to my heart. Ended up going to

(07:22):
the doctor getting some assessments done. They sent me to
the er, so that was terrifying. Thankfully, everything got squared away.
All the tests came back and they said that my
heart was okay, and then they put me on some
new medication for my anxiety. And man, just the short
few weeks I've been on this, I've been on Lexapro
for like three weeks now, and my mental health is

(07:42):
the best it's been in a long time. I'm just
generally happier, you know, I'm more productive, have more energy.
So that's that's been really nice to feel myself again
for admittedly the first time in several years, which I
I didn't even realize it had gotten that bad over time.
But yeah, it's I've been done.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
It's always the aery thing when you go to the doctor.
So I have a family member that went to the doctor.
They were seeing double vision, and they were seeing that
double vision like as in a blur, but one on
top of another, like if we cut this video and
we put another exact one on top of it. That's
what they saw. And they they went to the doctor
and they said, oh, I went to the emergency room
to figure out what was going on, and they're like, oh, man,

(08:27):
you need to go to another hospital. There's a good
chance that it's a tumor. And almost all these cases
we see it's a tumor. We want to get you
in right away. And so I panicked everyone, Like, I
kept that to myself because I didn't want to scare
the rest of the family. So we knew what was
going on, and then turns out it was nothing at all.
It just turns out you know, and they did the scans.
There's no blood issues, no tumor or anything like. Do

(08:49):
you trust the doctor these days? I guess that's a
fair question to ask our listeners out there. I want
you guys to think about this. Do you trust your doctor?
And look like, yeah, I break my arm, I'm going
to go to the doctor, right if I have I
feel like I'm gonna pass that I'm dizzy and I
think I'm dying, I'm gonna probably go to the doctor.
But what are like we what is a good doctor?

(09:09):
What tells you that this doctor actually cares about you
and that you're just not another number to prescribe. But
you know, whatever it is that they're trying to give you,
you know, those legal drugs as we call them. Every
pharmacy has a pharmacy in it, just take.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Away, right of course. Yeah, you know, that's that's always
a valid conversation to have because like it's there is
most certainly, you know, the aspect of the big pharma
cartel that that is in a position to profit off
of the mental health crisis that has largely been facilitated
by you know, our hijacked medical institution and things of

(09:44):
that nature. But of course with everything, Uh, there's nuance
to it, you know. With my situation, I was having.
Just imagine being irrationally terrified for absolutely no reason for
several hours on end every single day, to the point
where it's literally like psychological torture, to the point where

(10:04):
you actually start thinking about harming yourself just to make
it stop. That's how bad it was for me. It
made me believe because my panic attacks would have my
heart just like slamming in my chest for hours, and
I was genuinely terrified I was going to have a
heart attack. So that's why they sent me to the
er to make sure my heart was okay. And the
doc was like, yeah, your cholesterol is good, your traponin

(10:26):
levels are good. Chest X ray came back fine, So
we're sure that everything that's going on with you is
your anxiety. So they put me on some new meds,
and like I said, I've been feeling fantastic and back
to feeling myself and it's I'm very grateful for that.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
So you know what's interesting, don is in the future,
they'll just give you a headband and I'll fix the anxiety.
Have you seen those things emotion controlling headbands? You know
I have Well it's like a real life mood ring,
except for everybody. Well I guess mood rings were just
for women either. It just it was nice to get
tipped off before they're ticked off, that's all.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah. But yeah, So it's it's been an interesting journey,
you know, my my brain chemistry. You know now that
it's uh, you know, back to being leveled out and normal. Uh,
it's awesome. And then in just the past couple of weeks,
you know, I've just been handling business like usual, you know,
working like uh, like I said, Uh, A couple of

(11:23):
weeks ago, a few few friends of mine we gather
gathered together to celebrate cigar bloats.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Which is what wait say that again, I've never heard
the single rule. Like, I'm not trying to be rude,
I'm just like, that's.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
What sounded like, sigur bloat. So s I g R
B l o T sigar bloat?

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Is that what you get from the plot shot? So, uh,
it's that's disrespectful.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
It's one of the most important Norse holidays of the year.
So we got together, you know, had big bonfire, a
feast and everything. Basically the whole point of the holidays.
So the on the old Norse calendar, they only recognized
two seasons, winter and summer. So for on the contemporary calendar,

(12:14):
what is spring is would just be considered a part
of summer, what is autumn will just be considered a
part of winter. And our three most prominent holidays are Vettern,
which is in typically the full moon in mid to
late October, sometimes early November. This year's early November, which
is imagine like a cross between New Year's and Halloween,

(12:37):
and you know that's like the Norse New Year, and
you know you'll have an offering and get together a
bloat for a good for a good year. Of course.
Then you have Yule Yol, which is on midwinter around
the full moons, usually mid January, where you'll have you know,

(12:59):
for in historical sources, for a good crop. But it's
basically like you know, pre Christian Christmas for the Nordic
and Germanic people's. And then Sigurd bloats translating to the
victory sacrifices at the full moon towards the beginning of summer.
Now what we know as spring, where you'll have a
big face and offerings to Odin so that he will

(13:20):
help guide you through the summer months.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
So that well, what do you feast them? What do
we offer to him? Do you just like God and
have a favorite thing that he likes to eat? Like
he's like out Like when I saw some of those
Cadbury eggs, as like, those could be my favorite things
if they weren't a pagan tradition and not that happen
it's pagans. I just don't celebrate pagan traditions because that's
not what I believe in inherently. And I understand why
people like the rabbit and the egg and you know,
the fertility rituals per se. Most people don't know where

(13:44):
they come from. But yeah, so back to what I'm saying,
is there like a certain thing that you dedicate to,
like oh it in and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, So, like every celebration has its own specific traditions.
Some of them we know more about than others because
obviously during the period of Christianization, a lot of information
was destroyed and or just wasn't written down. A lot
of stuff was written down, like during the seventh and
eighth century, some of it wasn't written down un till
about the tenth or eleventh century, and you know a

(14:16):
lot of you know, the Germanic culture, the Norse culture
was very much an oral culture. They didn't write a
whole lot of stuff down until like right towards the
very end, so we know more about some holidays than others.
Of course, bet that are out there and yol are
mentioned quite substantially. Sigita Bllt, however, is only mentioned a
couple of times, and we know why because, of course

(14:37):
it was the victory sacrifice, where they would you know,
sacrifice animals and make offerings to the gods, and you know,
this is for victory, for success. And of course the
pagan or the Christian writers who are writing down these
pagan customers don't want to preserve the traditions for pagan success. Obviously,
they're trying to force these people to convert over, so

(14:58):
they're not going to record a lot of those traditions.
But uh so for this year, uh you know, we
offered a big steak. That's typically what we'll we'll give
for you know, things like that. So for mule, for example,
pork is a common offering, so you know, we'll bake
up a nice big ham and all that sort of stuff,
and then we'll have our own feast and we'll eat

(15:19):
a bunch of ham and deviled eggs and whatever the
hell else we feel like eating. Uh yeah, So feasting
was a huge part of every Norse holiday because it's
it's a part about bringing community together. And it doesn't
matter what culture it is. Food is always going to
bring people together, you know, So there's always going to

(15:40):
be this big, you know, feast. So like for sick
it a bloat. A couple of weeks ago, you know,
we did burgers, we did sausages, We had you know,
macaroni salad, potato salad, you know, a whole bunch of meat,
which is like if you don't know what meat is,
it's honey wine, really delicious.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Meat is like used to be one of my favorite
things to drink when I was growing up. In fact,
when I turned thirty, I did one of those beg
In the day, it was cool to do limo parties.
You'd have all your friends rent a limo and you
go downtown and that's what we did. And my buddy
brought me some of the most fine honey meat I've
ever had, and it was delicious, and it's a wine
made from honey, you know, turning honey into wine. Mm,

(16:21):
it sounds good. Don You know it's interesting to hear
everyone's customs, and I know those are really important to you,
just as much as the Resurrection Day as I call,
I don't call Easter. A lot of religious Christians out
there don't understand that Ishtar or Easter or the rabbit
in the egg and the rabbit falling from or the
egg falling from the squar sky into the Euphrates, and

(16:41):
Ishtar was in it and a dove bird, a dove
came by and pushed it onto the land, and she
thinked the dove by turning it into a horny little rabbit.
There that represents fertility. And you know the eg the
rabbit and the egg per se is a big fertility symbol.
And you see like techno DJs having big rabbit ads.
You know, I wouldn't think Donnie Darko would be a

(17:02):
fertility movie, but you know they have the rabbit head
in their example. But the rabbit is a huge fertility thing.
And I was talking about this with my best friend
while we were in church, and I'm like, they're doing
an Easter egg hunt at this church we're at, And
I said, is that like teaching kids health? Like that's
like health class, except for for kids. They're learning about

(17:23):
it in a very symbolic way. They don't understand what
they're learning when they're doing the rab in the egg.
And I've always kind of had a little bit of
a problem with that, you know, as myself being born
again Christian or follower of the Way, that's what Christianity
was called before they called it the Way, and Christian
was a slang term or derogatory term for a believer

(17:44):
or follower of Christ's Way or Yeshua I should call
them because Christ, the word Christ comes from the Greek
word christos, which is the anointed oil that comes off
the penial glend down the back through a chakra and meditation,
And a lot of people don't understand that or realize.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
That, right. And you know, I find it interesting because
like even in pagan culture, so like the internet is
it's such a blessing and a curse a lot of
the times because just the way that misinformation proliferates, So
like I won't like debate with other Pagans or like
argue with them. I don't see the point in it.
You know, I spend my time just trying to be

(18:19):
the best Heathen that I can be. I'm not really gonna,
you know, wag my finger. You're doing it wrong. Blah
blah blah blah blah. I don't care. Whatever somebody else
does is whatever they do. But so a lot of Pagans,
because of social media, because of the way that nonsense
spreads on social media, they'll spread these claims that Easter
has these connections to this Germanic goddess Astreh and the

(18:42):
alleged fertility festival of Ostarup. But the actual fact of
the matter is that's not true. Interestingly enough, it does
have a lot of pagan connections, but not in the
way that a lot of pagans online generally wickens. And
to say it this way, but honestly, a lot of
alleged Norse pagans really aren't following authentic Germanic polytheism. They're

(19:05):
following more of a Wiccanized version of Norse mythology. Because
when the first Norse pagan organization in the United States
was created in the nineteen seventies, they heavily borrowed from Wicca.
And so it's very much mixed in with all of that,
and of course all the stuff that Wicka borrowed from,

(19:27):
because that was invented in the nineteen forties by Gerald Gardner.
So they borrowed heavily from the Celtic traditions and like
Western European witchcraft and all these sorts of things. But
so online there's this misinformation that Easter is connected to
Ostara and then goddess Aostrey. But a great video that

(19:48):
explains how that is not the case actually is on
the YouTube channel Religion for Breakfast. It's hosted by doctor
Andrew Henry. He's a religious studies PhD. And he goes
into explaining to people and many other creators as well,
explaining that we only have one mention of the alleged
Germanic goddess Astre that comes from the year seven to

(20:11):
twenty five from the bishop known as Beide the Venerable,
where he's talking about aostremonos, which means alster month, essentially
a month for this figure named Aostre that he assumed
was a goddess. But he says that she was a goddess,
but he doesn't actually provide any sources for that, and

(20:35):
he pretty much only says a couple things about her.
Fast forward about eleven hundred years later, during the German
Romantic period in the early eighteen hundred, so like eighteen
twenties eighteen thirties. Of course, we have Jacob Grimm of
the Brothers Grim theme, who essentially takes Beads assumptions and
compounds it with assumptions of his own, using flawed philology

(20:59):
that lot of philologists have sort of discredited since then,
connecting her with Austra and what is it Ostada, which
is the I think High German, the old High German
word for Easter, and he basically, Jacob Grimm goes about
making up a whole lot of shit about rabbits and eggs,

(21:21):
and that sort of popularizes this idea that Ostara is
this ancient pagan festival, that it's the real origin of Easter,
when we don't have any actual evidence to back that up.
The interesting thing is that when pagan's online perpetuate this misinformation,
they're missing the actual real pagan roots of what Easter is.
And I actually shared a fantastic documentary from the page

(21:44):
Gnostic Informant on Easter where he goes into explaining you know,
the resurrection myths that exists throughout so many various cultures.
That's that's the real origins of a lot of these
things come from.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
You know.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
So we have the weeping for the dying god that
then comes back to life that we see, say, for example,
with Dionysus in Greece, with Attus in Greece, with the Moos.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
And Babylon forty days of weeping for Tamus. So it's
just Nimrod Sun.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yes exactly. Yeah, the weeping for Tamus and of course
Ishtar going down into the the underworld to you know,
try to bring him back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Of course, Lenta predates Christianity. It's astro theology exactly where
I come from. And it's funny how a lot of
these religions and beliefs and people not just all religious institutions,
but people who are theologically searching for the truth. They
they they start to find out or throughout history that

(22:48):
different cultures used those as some kind of gateway to
worship their god. Either they believed it was Saturn, or
they believed it was the moon or it was the sun.
Those were the prominent ones, and they even laid out
their cities to match the constellations like a RAN's belt
lines with the pyramids. So if you are in a
ship back in the you know, thirteen hundreds or seven

(23:09):
hundred eighty, and you wanted to go to Egypt, you
just follow the stars and the cities were laid out
that way, and it was intentional and astro like the
constellations are very important. They're even mentioned in the Christian Bible.
And I know I posted about that because a lot
of people don't realize the House of the Houses of
the Lord when they talk about the zodiac signs, the

(23:31):
Lamb of God ares, amongst other things. People don't understand
the importance that astro theology played and the way it
was interwoven even into the religious or Christian Bible, King
James version or any of them. And I've gotten down,
you know, that rabbit hole, and I'm still kind of
going through because it's a very interesting thing. And you know,
I'm starting to cross reference to Marian because Samerian is

(23:54):
obviously the original Semitic language, and you know, they have
a lot to deal with these stories that Christianity now uses.
They got a lot of it from the ancient cultures.
You have to keep going back and back and back,
and that's where you find out that Noah may have
been the king of Samaria, Nimrod may have been the
king of Samaria. But nobody really knows. Like you said,

(24:15):
there's really hard with all these inst mentions and somebody
walking around who could have interviewed somebody could have been
told that back in the day and they wrote it down.
We just don't know. And that's where faith comes in, right,
faith even comes in, you know, like in science. Science
wants you to believe everything is provable math of numbers,
but they want you to believe in one big miracle.
They want you to believe in the Big Bang. Right,

(24:36):
that's the one big miracle, right, and it just happened.
And that's as long as you believe in that one miracle,
that one thing that is abnormal, everything else falls into line.
But don't question it, don't ask questions, which is a
very important thing.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
You know, Well, science is often questioning the Big Bang.
They're still trying to figure out exactly what it was,
if it happened, how it happened. I mean, it's you know,
to your point, it is, ironically because science always tries
to present itself as being like antithetical to faith. But
in reality, as you said, you know, they do need
to have the faith in the Big Bang as they

(25:11):
consensus assumes that it was. So it's a bit ironic
there ultimately, you know, it's I do generally think that
the consensus is tends to be accurate because at the
end of the day, well not necessarily accurate, but it
could be. The point is, like, there's always a cause

(25:32):
and effect for everything, right, Like my question is, you know,
if there's always a cause and effect for everything, well,
then what caused the Big Bang? You know what I mean?
If it happened that way? So all all these mysterious questions,
but so getting into you know, a lot of the
resurrections with if we have time. If we don't, that's

(25:52):
totally cool, but if we are, because.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
We want to mention some real big news that may
not impact you as much. But the pulpe died on
East sure, which was ironic, and I kind of want
to I want to should have invited Lao Linesagamion because
he is heavily's written books about the perversion of the
Catholic Church. A good friend of ours that we had
on a while back, was Jordan Maxwell. There's an episode

(26:15):
I want to reshare be Real republish on a website
about the pope. But it all ties into, you know,
a lot of this astro theology that was adopted by
the church, and and like the holidays, and a lot
of these traditions were laid intentionally laid over pagan holidays
because they wanted to lead these individuals to Christianity or
their work version of Christianity, which was a perversion of

(26:37):
the way right because christian was a derogatory term initially.
And it's always interesting, you know. That's why George Lucas
we have the Way in the Star Trek. It's you know,
this is the Way. So it's all interesting, but I'm
interested in diving into it for a little bit. I
know we have a lot of news stories, but you know,
it's we're coming back from things and people are fresh
out of their Easter. You know, I had the groundshock,

(27:00):
and some people at Ham, like you mentioned you did
for your tradition, which is separate from Easter, and there's
all these different variations of what could or what could
not be. The truth is that we just don't know.
There's a lot of different people quoting and saying, you know,
the woman and the child, we have ishtar. It all
stumes back from the semiramis nemrods mother and wife. But
even before that, I bet you if you look in

(27:21):
somea marian and you keep going back and back, there's
these traditions of a mother and a child and divine
feminine and divine mail. And every woman wants a leader,
but not every woman wants to follow that leader that
they want to date.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
It's just all interesting, Like we start talking about these
topics about the divine feminine, the divine male and how
they get you know, deified as astro theological images like
the moon is feminine, the sun is male, you know,
and that's why you have so much moon and sun,
you know, symbolism throughout history and us the common folk
are the stars or the thousand points of light. And

(27:55):
they bring this up in the cult and culture conversations
and a lot of people there's a lot of different
view used on this. Some people believe it's Luciferian, which
you know, that's essential with sun worship. A lot of
times is is satanic Luciferianism. And then there's Luciferianism, and
there's all these varieties, but it's all astro theology at
the end of the.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Day, right, Yeah, you know, it's one of those things
where I always find it ridiculous when people try to
demonize and say that, oh, you know, there's this one
there's this one belief and that all the others are
you know, bad and blah blah blah blah blah, and
just try to you know, come up with these narratives
to in a way sort of verify their own and

(28:35):
then vilify everyone else because you know, like you said,
if we look back throughout history, so like let's just
take you know, Norse and Germanic culture for example, because
one one issue that I take, very one issue that
I tend to address sometimes when it comes to like

(28:55):
the Heathen community or are generally what we refer to
like literalists, where like people very much like you know
in many other faiths, where you know, they're like, oh,
you know, this is this is the only way that
odin and for and blah blah blah, like they are
the only gods and then everything else is fake. Like
I've come across a couple of content creators who believe this.

(29:17):
I just think it's so nonsensical to take that idea,
especially when it comes to our faith, because if we
look back far enough, we know that the Germanic mythologies
and traditions and customs and culture can trace all the
way back to the Proto Indo European peoples. And if
we study the history of the Proto Indo European peoples

(29:40):
and the way that they migrated, in the way that
those separate groups evolved, we can very clearly see through
genetic mapping and cultural analysis and things that so many
various different cultures come from the Proto Indo European peoples,
including the Germanic and then later the Norse, including the
Celtic including the Slavic, and the Baltic including the Greeks,

(30:04):
and then later the Romans and the rest of the
Italic peoples. Even so, when the Indo European peoples began
to branch off into their own little subgroups, there is
even a group, the Indo Iranian peoples that ended up
going down into Persia that developed the Persian culture and
then the early iterations of Hinduism, So the Hindu belief,

(30:27):
the Persian belief, the Greek, the Roman, the Celtic, the Norse,
and all of that all stems back to the Proto
Indo European belief So it's very much firmly in my belief.
It's completely ridiculous to say that, oh, the Norse gods
are real, but the Greek gods are fake, and the
Celtic gods are fake and blah blah blah. Well, because

(30:48):
they all come from the same thing. So if we're
gonna sit here and say that, well, I firmly believe
that the Norse gods are real, well then I've never
had an experience with the Greek deities or the Celtic deities,
but I would assume that they also exist just due
to the.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Story, or they just have different names for the same
deities because languages are different, and most people don't realize
that that there's a lot of evolution and name changes
and people's variations of what their det's believe in. It's
interesting that you mentioned that because I think in Christianity
we have a very similar argument. And I gotta and
you gotta be able to ask questions, right Jesus It

(31:24):
says that he says, to ask, you know, asking you
will receive, and what he will receive will you receive
when you ask knowledge? Knowledge is the river of life.
So when that blows out of you causes the blind
to see and stuff to hear and everything else. And
what's interesting is when I'll sit down to Christian and
I mean, it's a real question. Did Adam and Eve? Exist?

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Number one?

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Right?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Number two? Was there a talking snake? Number three? Have
you ever seen a talking snake? Number four? With eating
an apple? Give somebody the complete knowledge of good and evil?
Is it a myth or is it real happenings? Is
that exactly what happened to human Human beings were sitting
there naked in the woods and then dade apple and
they are like, oh shoot, I got no clothes on.

(32:04):
All of a sudden, you know there are as humans.
Did we do we we noticed we don't have clothes on?
Were they dumb? And it? Was it like a an
analogy for what happened? Maybe there was a real Adam
and Eve. Obviously there's patient one and patient two if
you believe in the creation story. But the question is
is were they Adam? Because what are atoms? Atoms are
meant to be split. You know, you're made of atoms, right,

(32:28):
donten is made of atoms scientifically speaking, you know. And
then if you look at the word magic behind it,
Adam backward is made as a Facebook and they got
to you know, they have their ways to have the
origins and everything else. And Christianity people argue about the
same bs done. We have the same issues to what
is real, what is not with it? What is mythological?

Speaker 2 (32:49):
What is not?

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Was there a dude named Odin who could throw, you know,
shooting fire out of his hands and thor with a hammer.
They had lightning, which I mean futuristic weapons they could
have been I do knaki like the Samarans talk about
they came down from the heavens and they came here
and they could be their legends, just like there's a
Helios and uh, you know the word church, by the way,

(33:11):
it comes from mother circes. That's where your mother church
from andother circes. Was known for conning people to come
into her house and then she'd suck the life out
of them. And I'm just saying what the root definition
of the churches. And Jesus never said to go to church.
He never said to read a Bible either, but he
did quote scripture. It's very interesting because Helios, who is

(33:33):
mother circees your father or is interesting because they used
to call the city of An in Egypt Heliopolis, right
as in the city of light, So that's what it
means to turn the light on.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Right, Yeah, you know, it's It's one of those things
where I think, ultimately for people to have an actual
understanding of their history and just spiritual culture, traditions, customs,
and history, people need to wrap their minds around the
fact that everything, when it comes to these things, is mythology.

(34:13):
That's not saying that it's a bad thing, that it's
made up, but it's symbolic. Everything is symbolic. I actually
posted a great quote from Manly P. Hall just the
other day. It's from his book Michael's Adeck and the
Mystery of Fire. Hall says, when human race learns to
read the language of symbolism, a great veil will fall

(34:34):
from the eyes of men. They shall know the truth,
and more than that, they shall realize that from the
beginning the truth has been in the world unrecognized, save
by a small but gradually increasing number appointed by the
Lords of the Dawn as ministers to the needs of
human creatures struggling to regain their consciousness of divinity and.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
The last keys of freemasonry.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
I think, well, it's from Michael's a deck in the
Mystery of Fire. Like I said, Yeah, So when we
go back to studying you know, history, and then you know,
like you mentioned earlier, with astro theology and all these
sorts of things, it becomes very obvious that all of

(35:19):
these stories and all of these mythologies, whether it's Norse mythology,
Christian mythology, Greek mythology, or whatever they are, these are
symbolic tales that are conveying messages. They have never been
meant to be interpreted exoterically, meaning in the literal sense.
They have always been intended to be interpreted esoterically to

(35:40):
find the deeper, hidden meanings behind them. And it's one
of the things that I find interesting about the Norse
faith is that that that's a key element of what
we believe in. You know, we don't take our myths,
or at least the vast majority of us do not
take our myths as literal facts. Of this is exactly

(36:01):
what happened. We recognize them to be symbolic stories. That
have greater meanings behind them, like today, for example, today's
Earth Day. Uh. And I made a posting about that
specifically because the goddess of the Earth is jord She's
the mother of Thor and beyond that, we don't know
jack shit about her because they didn't really record anything.

(36:25):
But the point that is.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
This person.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, so she was essentially, you know, in this old lore,
she was just the personification of the Earth, you know,
the quintessential mother Earth figure that you see in you know,
every belief you know, like to compare her to Gaia
in Roman mythology for Greek mythology, for example. But the
point is so at the end of that post, I

(36:53):
had talked about a portion of the Norse creation myth
and the symbology behind it, because essentially the Norse creation
myth in part is that after Odin and his three
brothers created the world again symbolically, not literally, but after
they did this, they're said to be walking along a
beach and they come across these two pieces of driftwood,

(37:13):
a piece of ash tree and part of an elm tree,
and so they decide that they're gonna they carve the
ash tree into the shape of a man, and they
carve the elm tree into the shape of a woman,
and Odin breathes the breath of life into both of them,
and his brothers give them their the five senses, and YadA, YadA, YadA,

(37:33):
YadA YadA. Obviously, human beings don't actually come from trees,
and our ancient ancestors knew this too. You know, you
could easily do an experiment.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
You know, you could.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Clearly just see that human beings don't come from trees.
So there's a symbolic meaning behind this myth. The symbolic
meaning being that human beings and nature, our environment are
inextricably linked. We are one and the same, essentially talking
about how you know, we come from the earth as
human beings, and when we die, we returned to the earth.

(38:07):
It's sort of just the idea that we are connected
to our environment. We are a part of our environment.
So it's not the literal, oh, human beings come from trees. No,
it's a symbolic story of how we are connected to
the world around us.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
It's interesting done because in the Bible, Adam has to
give up a rib. He literally split Adam to make
a pair of Adam and Eve. And what I wondered,
don my question for you, do you think there's like
a whole bunch of different cultures of aliens and they
all just came here and they all created their own
human beings. That's why we have the diversity. And they're like,
let's see who survives. And they're like, we'll make the Asians. Oh,

(38:46):
we'll make the African Americans, We'll make the Caucasians, and
they all make them. Throw out the generations of thousands
and tens of thousands of years. We're what's left of
a much larger scheme and game by the Sumerians or
the Aunaki. I don't know thing down because there's all
these different myths and a lot of them have They're
like there's a lot of similarities between the gods, like

(39:06):
like everyone has the fire god almost. You know, you
got Odins, you got Apollo, you got Helios, you know
you could get you got Nimrod, right, you got.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Well, Odin is not a fire god. Odin is not
in any capacity now, So.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
What kind of god is Odin?

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Then? So to understand a whole lot about Norse Smith,
I mean, I can sit here and we can talk
about it for hours, but I definitely recommend people look
up the work of doctor Neil Price. You know, he
does a lot of great work, just sort of really
diving into the deep history of a lot of this stuff.
But essentially, so when we look at things like Greek mythology,

(39:50):
for example, it's very easy to say, oh, this god
is a god of that, and that god is a
god of this. You know, they have very specific attributed
to them. Yeah, they have very specific things to them.
That is not the case with the Germanic belief We
can say that the gods have multiple different attributes, but
it's inaccurate to say, for example, well four is a

(40:11):
god of thunder. That's not entirely true. He is a
god who is associated with thunder and various other aspects wind, rain, lightning, storms,
the sky in general, clear skies as well as stormy skies,
fertility in a sense because the rain fertilizes the earth,
and a god of protection as well, seem to protect mankind,

(40:35):
and as that, we also have archaeological evidence that in
some cases Thor was prayed to for health, you know,
because protection, protecting one's health, things of that nature. So
there's you know the way that these cultures and beliefs evolve,
particularly with the Germanic culture. These deities have numerous aspects

(40:56):
to them, and oftentimes they can overlap. You know, Thor
is sometimes seen as a war god because of course,
various gods of the Norse and Germanic culture are seen
as war gods. They were a warlike people. The Germanic
peoples were always at war with the Roman Empire because
the Roman Empire kept trying to steal their land. And
you know, the Norse people, you know, they were expanding

(41:17):
and trying to you know, raid places and expand territory
and trade, and they were always getting into fights with people.
So of course multiple deities are going to reflect that,
because these are mythologies that are made up by human
beings to try to explain the supernatural forces of the
cosmos that sort of govern our world. Anyway, going back

(41:41):
to your question, what kind of god is Udin? So,
Auden is a god of multiple facets, but for the
most part he is the chief of the Icied, the
main pantheon of gods. He is a god associated with wisdom.
He is associated with death, he is associated with travel

(42:04):
and wandering, you know, many many things. He's also a
god associated with war, but specifically battle tactics and the
inspiration behind war. We learn a lot about who Odin
or what Odin is when we look at the etymology
of his name. If we go back to the Proto

(42:25):
Indo European language to warannas I believe, is the oldest
iteration of his name, and basically this means theory, ecstasy, inspiration.
So he is one of the numerous evolutions of a
Proto Windo European ecstasy god, much like say Dionysus in Greece.

(42:46):
And so I say when I'm explaining to people, you
know the essence of what Odin is. You know, when
I'm talking to some of my friends that I you know,
they've recently converted to heathen reens, so I'm because I've
been heathen for an eye years, I've sort of come
an impromptu teacher to them, helping them along their journey
when they're you know, when they have questions and whatnot,

(43:06):
and they're you know, they're like, you know, so what
is Thor? For example, So Thor is a deity that
of course exists because my put a pin in that.
And I'll come back to it.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Because the son of Oden and also star of Marvels series.
How do you feel about that? Real quick? Done? I
know to kind of keep to keep a movie because
I know, if Jesus Christ was a Marvel superhero, I
don't know if I'd feel like that was blasphemous unless
he was really cool and he was just healing all
the dying guys throughout the whole thing. You'd be like,
you are dead, not anymore, Superman, you are good, Wolverine

(43:41):
not anymore. You know, Like, I don't know if it'd
be blasphemous. And I was kind of curious since you're like,
you know who's more capitalistic there, Jesus Christ. That probably
sells a lot more, but Thor also sells a lot
of fucking Marvel.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
You know movies. I love those movies. You know. It's
interesting how I mean, these religious gods they try to
make money off of them.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Yeah, I mean, I I am a fan of Marvel.
I've had my opinions of it over the years. I
mean nowadays I'm at the.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
God you know.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yeah, you know, like at this point nowadays, I don't
really give a shit. I mean, if you were to
ask me five, six, seven years ago, yeah, I'd say
it irritated me, but you know that's that's also a
younger version of me who's you know, hasn't learned as
much as I have now, So nowadays I don't really
give a fuck, but uh, it is frustrating sometimes when

(44:35):
they try to, like so, I remember there was this
issue where Disney was basically trying to like copyright Loki
and they actually did get into a lot of legal
trouble because it's like, you can't freaking do that. You
know this this is actually, you know, a cultural deity
connected to a religion that you know, millions of people worship.
So no, and there was a big, you know thing

(44:57):
about it, and I think they just decided to drop it.
But anyway, going back to what I was saying previously,
So before I get back to what I explain to
people what the essence of Odin is, first, let me
explain what I view the gods to be in general, because,
like I think, even when it comes to pagans and paganism,

(45:19):
I have a different view of what God or gods
are as opposed to most people, whether they're monotheistic Christians
or Muslims or Jews, or whether they or other pagans.
My view is a bit different from pretty much everybody.
So I believe that there is and this is my
own personal belief from over twenty years of studying history

(45:40):
and theology and occultism and all this sort of stuff.
I believe that there is a source of that connects everything,
you know, much like how say, human beings, we're all
connected by protons, electrons, neutrons, things of that nature, carbon
based life forms, everything that exists on the basis of say,

(46:02):
energy vibration and frequency. I sort of liken it too,
an energy vibration and frequency. I don't necessarily consider this
source to be like a deity or spirit or an entity.
Is just something that is. It is, you know, primorial.
It connects everything both physical and metaphysical, corporeal and incorporeal.

(46:23):
I refer to it as a grand architect of the universe.
I specifically use that Masonic terminology because I just feel
like it fits the best for what the hell it
is I'm trying to describe and what we view as
gods are. In my opinion, whether we're talking about yeshoah Yahweh, Mohammed, Buddha,

(46:46):
thor Odin, Zeus, Jupiter, whatever the hell you know. These
are all These are all spirits that have been that
have existed, entities, whatever, that have existed from the very beginning.
They're all connected, They're all tied to this force, you know, source,
whatever you want to call it. They're all their own

(47:08):
independent forces obviously, but they also, you know, they're interconnected,
much like again human beings. We're all our own individual people,
but we're also made up of protons, electrons, neutrons, energy, vibration,
wavelength all those sorts of things that connect us as
physical people. So over time, as these cultural mythologies have

(47:32):
evolved and human beings who have a connection to this
divinity have attempted to explain these sort of supernatural forces
in the natural world, we interact with these spirits that
have been here since the beginning of time, and various
cultures deify these spirits and they refer to them as gods.

(47:55):
When you know, the contemporary understanding of what the word
god is is it, Oh, they created everything versus you
get what. I don't know if I'm explaining this correct.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
What you're saying. Yeah, definitely. Like so, when we get
into this conversation on theology and the origins of a
lot of these different deities, and a lot of them
are copycats from other religion or other cultures, and they've
adopted because at one time or another, people have been
slaves of every culture, you know, whether it's Babylonian or whatever,

(48:26):
and they adopt some of those deities. And even in
the Bible, most Christians don't understand that Christianity is not monotheism.
Although they believe in one God, or we believe in
one creator God, it doesn't mean that there aren't other gods.
The Bible uses the term elohem in the beginning of
the gods, and elohem is for male and female, right,

(48:49):
it's a plural term that means both and ll technically
comes from Saturn. Hence why a lot of people believe
the astro theological importance of Saturn churches Originally with Saturn day,
Rome was originally a Saturnia. Women wore ear rings so
they could hear from Saturn or you know, wedding rings
or you know. And also Saturn was known as lord

(49:10):
of the rings per se. According to Jordan Maxwell. Anyways,
I don't know where you got that from, but you know,
it's interesting, you know, how they may have known that
if like I said, that much of the culture in
life came from fallen angels or the Nephelm, the fallen ones,
and they designed humans in the Peatritish and they had
different stories to talk about creation. It's very interesting all around.

(49:33):
But you know, it's been an hour we've been really
diving into since. It's really interesting because of the holidays,
like I mentioned, and you know, a lot of people
were really sad that the pope died, and I was surprised,
and I think it's because he's the first Jesuit pope
that passed that he's getting so much publicity. And you know,
it's kind of almost an atheistic viewpoint and promotion of

(49:54):
it in Catholicism and in ordained religion. I've never been
one for a solid religion all. But there's a lot
of things that are going on in the news that
we have even touched base on, and one of them is.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Really quick because I just wanted to finish off my
point because you would ask, you know, what you know
about about auton and whatnot, and I did want to,
you know, complete that before we move on.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
But yeah, yeah, sure, you wanted to make sure that
we understand all that yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
So basically, you know, to very quickly sum up my point.
Whenever I'm explaining to somebody, you know, what is uh
Odin or what is thor what is Frey? What are
these deities? So now with my own with the understanding
of what I believe these spirits, gods, whatever to be,
So when I explain it to people, I'm like, yes,
they are these you know, spirits and deities that exist,

(50:39):
but they also exist as manifestations of the natural world.
So Thor, for example, he's not just a god of
thunder and lightning, but when there is thunder, when there
is lightning, that is a part of Thor. Freya being
a goddess of love. When you feel the beating your
heart and you feel those butterflies when you really love somebody,
whether it's romantic or platon, you are experiencing the essence

(51:02):
of Freya. And with Odin being a god of inspiration,
of wisdom, of passion. Whenever you're inspired, whenever you seek wisdom,
you want to learn something, or you have a passion
to write a poem, he's also a god of poetry.
Or when you have this force, this inspiration, this fury
to want to fights like if you're a warrior, you're

(51:23):
in combat or whatever, you are experiencing the essence of Odin.
They are everywhere all the time.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
By the way, the god of romances, Christanti heres only
in Don's religion. I am just kidding, but you know
it's interesting. You know, I always had a passion for
theology and these conversations, and I know we promised our
listeners we dive into some of these stories and one

(51:53):
of them is playing god though, Like so something we
talked about over the years that we've been waiting for
it to happen. Like we call her show the Forecast
into the future. The Random Life is the forecast into
the future. And I'm going to show you why right now.
There's this story that's been out for a few days
and it's been causing some you know, waves throughout the

(52:13):
inner web, and people are kind of talking about this.
But the thing is, we've been talking about this for years.
Bringing dead creatures back to life, back life, or bringing
them back. That's right. The dire wolf gene used to
create three animals that were bred by scientists to bring

(52:34):
back a species that was once extinct on once extinct,
and here it is. But why why the wolf. Why
wouldn't they do something more cool like dinosaurs, like that
would really make the news.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Or do you think this later on?

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Or maybe they could make a real bigfoot. They'll be like, oh,
let's just we'll just make a bigfoot. Then we'll just
do that, and then he'll be running through the woods
and be like, big, what's real? Well, they brought them
back from the dead. There's a big book, you know,
like you know, because they're gonna be able to design
these things in the petri dish, much like we make
toys in a toy box. You're gonna have your animal

(53:09):
human eyebrids and they're gonna take DNA from other species
and cross pollin eate thos and create new species. And
that's essentially what this is, isn't it a whole new species.
Synthetic biology doesn't.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Have a soul. Yeah, so for for the most part,
you're correct. This is essentially a new species. I did
look into this story when it first broke because, you know,
wolves are my favorite animal. They've always been my favorite animals.
So when I hear something like this, I'm going to
look into it just out of sheer fascination. I was
very disappointed to find out that essentially all of these

(53:44):
headlines in the mainstream media of the corporate media, oh,
they brought back to the dire wolf after ten thousand
years are pretty much big fat lies, right. What actually
happened is that this corporation they took a few HW
genes from dire wolf fossils and use them to tweak
the genetics of regular gray wolves to basically create what

(54:09):
are essentially gray wolves with a little bit of dire
wolf DNA. The interesting thing is, however, I've learned this recently.
I did not know this until I looked into this.
Dire wolves. If we look back into the history of
what we know these creatures to be, are actually more

(54:29):
genetically related to the modern day jackal than wolves. You know,
they're almost completely unrelated. And so essentially what these scientists
have done, and they're calling them dire wolves, they took
a little bit of dire wolf DNA, I think it
was like three or four genes and spliced it into
like twenty six or twenty seven genes of gray wolves

(54:49):
and birth these gray wolf pups and said to be
the bearer of bad news, but they're not actually dire wolves.
From ten thousands and.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
I think it's a military purposes. They're going to turn
into wolf men and they're gonna be like the war.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Like, you want to know something that's really freaking funny. Actually,
so it's this little conspiratorial but there's one hundred percent
fact you can fact check it. The during World War two,
Nazi scientists actually had a program to try to do that,
to create beast men of wolves or bears or whatever.
I don't remember what the hell it was called. It

(55:27):
was one of those weird ass projects that the SS
was working on, but yeah, they at one point did
want to try to do that. It is fascinatingly crazy.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
So we got Nazi werewolves in space, some generic movie
based off of animal human hybrids, and here we think
they're just all dire wolves. But that's the baby creation,
like a couple test wombs over is the werewolf with

(55:59):
already on its arm right.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Actually, man, there actually is a really good movie about that,
if for anybody that loves cheesy movies, it's called thing.
It's called Frankenstein's Army. It is a movie. We're basic.
It's a horror movie where the Soviet soldiers in World
War two attack a German bunker and there's this mad

(56:23):
scientist that created all these hybrids. There's like Nazi robot
soldier hybrids and like Nazi were wolf hybrids. It's it's
a cheesy ass horror movies, but it's.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Like something that I would watch because I watched the
horror movies. And I'm like, you know what, why am
I watching? At the end of the day, You're like
scratching your head. It's like, why would I succumb to
watching this? I can't get my time back. It's lost forever.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah, yeah, I enjoy it. I think it's really good.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
But yeah, and here it is Frankenstein's Army. Yeah, okay,
if we don't need a trailer, we're good here on
this one. But it's becoming a real thing. And it's
interesting because we're playing god and it won't be long until,
like I said, we're gonna have designer babies and we're
gonna have our little gothic church or gothic you know,

(57:15):
animal human hyghbred church, and they're gonna be like, well,
we want to design a little bathroom at baby, and
then maybe we want to make ourselves a half spider,
half queen lady looking thing, and you know, I don't
get it, Like, at what point do we go, Oops,
we made a mistake. We're creating a monster. Wait how
long will be till one of these things get let out?

(57:36):
Like I said, somebody's gonna see Bigfoot. It's gonna be
one of these like animal human hybrids that they let out,
and they'll be like, Bigfoot's real, and it's gonna be
like hearing the Henderson's. It's gonna go pound it on
some door and somebody's gonna shoot it, and then everyone's
gonna be like all these years, we finally got Bigfoot
and somebody put them on the grill.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
You know, or yeah. I think the best quote for
for that is, you know, it's very stery typical, but
it's very apropos. Going back to the Jurassic Park franchise,
I believe it was Jeff Goldblum's character, doctor Marcus whatever,
I can't remember his name. Uh, he said, your scientists

(58:13):
were so concerned with whether or not they could, they
didn't stop to think whether or not they should. In
reference to them bringing back dinosaurs for Jurassic Park and
all that, Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Yeah, they're gonna bring back a Trannosaurus Rex.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
You know.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Number one they're gonna have t rex firms and they're
gonna have like t rex steak, and it's gonna be
all capital you know, capitalism, and they're like, oh, for
the best. You know.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
One of my big criticisms for the whole of the
bringing Back the dire wolf shit is like, Okay, so
why are we so focused or why are they so
focused on like dire wolves and wily mannison all this
sort of stuff when we have animals that have very
recently gone extinct that we could uh very much easier

(58:57):
to bring back and to help replenish their population. Jode
over well even that, you know, the first thing that
came to my mind was like the Northern white rhinoceros,
the black rhino. You know, these animals that are very
much on the verge of extinction. One of them, I
don't remember if it was the Northern black rhino or
the Northern white rhino, but one of them did just
go extinct a couple of years ago. Though the last
one died, we still have rhinos in existence, and we

(59:21):
very much still have access to the DNA of these
rhinos that just went extinct a few years ago, why
not try to work one bringing them back and help
you know, the environment that way, as opposed to, yeah,
let's try to bring back something that's not been here
for ten thousand years. They ever stopped to wonder maybe
there's a reason it hasn't been around for ten thousand years.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Nope, Instead, we're going to have Nazi wear wolves in
space and they're gonna do war. This is coming down
due done. It's gonna be uh, you know, we think
it's just wolves, but there's some military purpose. These wolves
have like robotic like limbs in any transform or something
like we're getting there. Robots are getting crazy. Just in

(01:00:01):
the last four or five months, they got like untethered
ones and it looks like they're in homes and they're dancing,
and it's really hard to figure out what cgi AI
created video versus real anymore. Don Ai is slowly taking
over the Internet. Like we could make a whole like
virtual influencer don and have them be fake a virtue
and have them give them an Instagram account and make

(01:00:22):
a killing because our virtual influencer is hot and has
a bunch of dudes who are you know, thirsty, and
they'll be all tuning into the Rundown Live because of
course you'll be like, I'm gonna be in a rundown live.
Then we're gonna have the AI or AI influencer on
the show and have them create fake AI videos for
the interview, and you know, that's just that's the future.
It's so crazy to me to see that, like robots

(01:00:43):
are starting to infiltrate the home, which is something that
we always talked about. They're not you know, they're not
the kind of robots that a lot of people out
there are talking about, which are the ones that you
take the bed, right, But there's a lot of like
common household look robots that are like doing laundry, you
can do the dishes. It's not going to be long

(01:01:05):
until maybe in my lifetime where you can walk in
a home and a robot will be preparing dinner.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Right. Yeah, man, it's I know, I mentioned this all
the time whenever we talk about this. I know, the
the viewers that have been around for a while and like,
shut up, down your broken record for the new people.
I'm talking about the two thousand and five movie with
Will Smith Eye Robot. I think it nails it on
the head with what is coming down the pike, with

(01:01:32):
the way that these you know, household robots and technology
is developing man and you know, much like Jurassic Park
warn us about not bringing back extinct animals. I think
Eye Robot is a really good cinematic warning of why
not to develop these damn robots that we're going to keep,
you know, putting into the house. And it's just I

(01:01:54):
just think it's a bad idea these things done.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Like look at it's such a friendly little guy. He'll
come up to you and talk to you, like, here's
your food, I am server robot. Look at that. These
robots could easily like take your order, they drive off
and another robot just loads it up. You take it
off and you eat, and then you get rid of
the waitress. I mean they only pay waitresses like two
dollars and thirty five cents and then the rest is

(01:02:17):
paid by the consumer usually you know, tip and stuff
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
And that's why you always tip your servers people anyway, continue, yeah,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Your uber drivers all that stuff, because they don't make much, right,
But look at these things. They're so cute and adorable,
and they're getting, you know, to a point where they
want to, you know, put these things in the home
and they have these which one is it is it
Elon Musk's robot that's invading homes, Like people are getting

(01:02:45):
them in the home and you see them and they're
like running and doing all these different things like karate,
but not at the level that we're thinking like Ninja
movie style. But these robots are starting to move around
and act more human, and they're they're non tethered. It's
so weird to me to see a robot that doesn't
have a connection to a power source.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Yeah. Man, I mean the way the technology is evolving
is crazy. I mean we're sort of seeing that across
the board, like whether it's robotics, whether it's AI, you know,
military technology, what have you even you know, just regular
you know, like gaming consoles, computers, laptops, phones, TVs. Like
technology in general is just booming to the point where

(01:03:29):
I have this thought every once in a while. I
can only imagine what it's like for people that were
like born in the you know, like the sixties, seventies,
eighties to see this stuff. But I'd be fascinated if,
like say, if we have time travel right to grab
somebody from like the nineteen twenties, like nineteen twenty five,
bring them one hundred years into the future to twenty

(01:03:50):
twenty five, and just witness the culture shock, right, because
like that's around the time like airplanes were first being
invented around you know, like late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds,
you know. So just to see the jumping technology from
then to now and how a person from that time
period would react to it is just something that I
wish I could see because I knew it would be crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Yeah, these robots, and you know, I'm they're trying to
make them act human. They're trying to get them into
the home. It's no doubt. I mean, look at these
things done. This is getting a little crazy. Like robots are.
They're still very robotic. I still think they're like Showtime
Pizzash if you grew up you had the big mouse
geese that would dancing and singing to you. Still a

(01:04:34):
little robotic, but they're getting there. It won't be long
til they figure out to make them, how to make
them act more human. Elon Musk says, by the way,
five thousand humanoid robots this year. Five thousand robots this
year is what they want to make, and then they're
going to sell them and I don't know. I've seen
some videos and it's pretty interesting. But what happens when
the robot falls over? Does it just pick itself up?

(01:04:57):
And it looks kind of basic and it's kind of neat,
very futuristic that this is happening. But don would you
get a robot in your home? Let's say your ear
pushing sixty five, you're retiring, you know, you know you
would you have a personal assistant that's a robot. That's
what kids are for, so you're gonna have some kids.
Good answer, good answer.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
No, I can see if I am blessed enough to
live that long. You know, I'm hoping to last till
at least like eighty, like my granddad did. I can
definitely see I will be the type of guy that
will be living out in the woods in the mountains
with a big ass bushy beard and some cows and
goats and you know, a little bit of solar power,

(01:05:42):
completely off grid, growing some crops, trying to stay the
hell away from all the robots. And AI tell me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
This isn't moving more and more like a human. Look
at this robot like it's doing like the macarina. What
this is like Michael Jackson Moonwak likes crazy. It just
blows my It's so cool. But at the same time,
I want to punch it, like I don't understand, Like
I don't have anger towards it. But look, it's like
doing karate and stuff, Like what is going on with

(01:06:12):
these robots? They're getting so animated. Now you just put
some synthetic biology, some human looking meat on there, and
it's gonna never look completely human. I don't believe. Maybe
in just not indistincuate indistinguishable like the Terminator, but they're
gonna get these things looking to where you know, people
might fall in love with them.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
So you know, you know some kid that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Grows up at the robot and has the robot his
whole life, and it's been there. There's gonna be some
movie about this, and the robot's gonna die and the
kid's gonna cry and it's gonna be child's movie. There's
probab already wanted out there like it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
But like there's so there's a similar to that. There
is a video game. Look really quick, look up the
trailer for a game called Detroit Become Human. I've mentioned
on the show that you talked about this, Yeah, really
great game. I very much say enjoyed it when I
played it. Basically, the premise is you're following the story

(01:07:04):
of three different protagonists. All three of them are androids
humanoid androids, and each one has their own story essentially.
One of them is a servant android who gets abused
by its owner and decides to break its programming and
runs away and saves the daughter of the owner who
is also getting abused. Another one is also a servant android,

(01:07:26):
but he gets abused by the adult son of his owner,
who is a drug addict, and he ends up getting
framed for his owner's murder when he didn't actually do it,
and you know, he ends up becoming essentially like a
robot civil rights leader essentially. And then the other one
is a police robot who is investigating both of those

(01:07:50):
other cases. And it's basically it's a really good commentary
on like what is humanity and human nature because the
whole thing is the whole PREMI of the stories, like
these robots, these androids breaking out of their programming and
like developing their own like sentience and thoughts and emotions
and whatnot, and it's it makes you think like broader

(01:08:11):
about the philosophy of a lot of these things. But
just as far as the story is concerned, it's it's
a really really good game for anybody that likes that
sort of sci fi story stuff that also makes you
think about, you know, the philosophy of what it means
to be human.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Yeah, man, I don't know these robots, these tesla and robots.
I'm sus dude, look at these things. I'm just telling you,
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Some of this stuff looks like it's CGI or AI.
But I've seen some videos of these robots that have
made mainstream headlines, and they're getting scary.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
They're getting to a point where I don't know what
to tell you, but they're gonna be in the home there.
People are gonna start having robots to be nursing homes,
you name it. They're gonna employ these things, and you're
gonna have a robot wiping your weer around when you
get old, and not a human being at these nursing homes,
because that's what you know, who wants to wipe you know,
be the groom of the stool, you know, per se Right, Yeah,

(01:09:11):
it's one of those things. Other news that's incredibly weird.
One incredibly weird and big pharmagon of like a mist
is the idea that they are doing womb transplants for women.
Becomes first UK womb transplant recipart recipient to give birth.

(01:09:33):
And I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but what
I'm thinking about is they're going to have these people
who are identifying as females that are males, and they're
going to give them womb transplants. I would believe if
they can. You know, if there's money in it, why
wouldn't they.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Right, Yeah, you know, there's there's so many thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
You think, would you have a womb transplant?

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
I'm a wo man. No, I'm quite content with the
old you know, the twigg and berries. I'm good brother.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Well, then maybe you will have this other story that's
in the news. This also happened. Man receives sperm transplant. Hmmm,
So I don't know what do they do. Do they
like stick a needle, drain the drain the water balloon
and then refill it up or what? How does that work?

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
I have no idea. Actually, is this the first stuff
I heard of? The womb transplant story. But this is
the first I'm hearing of the sperm transplant.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Here it is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
A man in his early twenties has received the world's
first sperm trans making stem cell transplant and a new
procedure that could be groundbreaking for infertility treatment. Until now,
the procedure I had only been tested in animals, but
successfully allowed maile mice and monkeys to father offspring. The
patient was diagnosed with a zoom spermia. I don't know

(01:10:59):
what that means, a condition that causes no sperm to
be president in his ejaculate. So the guy was shooting
blanks and now he doesn't shoot blanks. And they used
some kind of stem cell making system to transplant sperm.
I wonder if that's again synthetic biology. Are these little
frankin spermes?

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Like what is it? Like?

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
The kid comes out and it's gonna be one of
those dire wolf Nazi wolfman from space that we're talking
about earlier, Because that's where this is going. Man, I'm
telling you, like like some guys would be like, I
didn't know I had Baphomet's broom. I went into the
doggy the doctor.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
I thought I was having.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Normal baby sperm or the kid's gonna come out a
little weird like Zappa Beebel Bronx with three legs and
four arms or something like that, you know, was a
guru or whatever from Mortal Kombat. I don't know, man,
it sounds sounds kind of weird to me, and it
sounds like dystopic. It's the same thing with a research
item I'm doing that you know, don that seventy percent

(01:11:57):
of the bees have died or dying this year.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Yeah. I have been aware of, you know, just of
the declining bee populations in general over the past decade
or so, which is, you know, in and of itself,
you know, quite concerning. I've also been you know, keeping
up with news of certain bee population is rebounding and
you know, repopulating and actually being taken off of the

(01:12:23):
endangered species list. So it's it's definitely worth something worth
keeping an eye on, you know, as far as that
that whole thing is concerned.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Yeah, it's interesting. All that craziness aside, though, There's been
a lot of things in the news that I've been
kind of trying to figure out what's going on in
the world. I think a lot of people in the
world are stuck like they've doubled down on their confirmation bias,

(01:12:55):
they've doubled down on their political bias, and they've become
inherently blind all around to what the truth is because
they stopped searching for knowledge, but they started to accept
what the echo chamber has given them. And I think
that a lot of people around and around are becoming
more and more like Sheeple done in one way or another.

(01:13:18):
And I want to say, it's really amazing that when
we started doing the show, there is almost no podcast
doing what we were doing.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Now, obviously the goat is Joe Rogan does a very
similar style show, Alex Jones. A lot of these guys
who've been around, you know, Alex Jones is around before
anyone doing this. And you know, I think it's interesting
because there's over hundreds of thousands of podcasts. I can't
tell you how many of them are doing what we're
talking about except for you know, I think us covering

(01:13:47):
futurism is something that really separates us from a lot
of shows out there, and people get their ideas from
this broadcast. We always said that we're a show for influencers,
not for the average Joe because we're you're forecast in
the future if you want to know it's coming down
the road. We're no astrologists, but we are here to
take the trends, take in the trends, and diagnose it
and tell you look at this is happening. And now

(01:14:10):
we got you know, were wolves in space and other
things going on, which, by the way, there are no
real werewolves in space that we know, other than that
they made these Frankin wolves, higher wolves which may not
have no souls and may you know, kind of turn
into a werewolf somewhere down the line because you know,
military applications. So you know, it's interesting to see. But

(01:14:33):
people are starting to become very i think tribal, even
on the right. People like it's almost automatic to me
that whatever administration is in the White House, we have
people even in the industry that are automatically cynical, and

(01:14:53):
it's okay to be skeptical, by the way, and I
think it's good. There's a healthy rationale of people do
good things and do bad things. There's people who want
to create flying cars, which sounds cool, it might be
a good thing, and then there's people that want to
create you know, Nazi werewells for space travel, you know,
and it's time lasts every time I say that it's

(01:15:15):
not that dire well story got me. Man, I'm telling
you it's crazy. But you know, people don't understand that
there's benefits even in the robots situation. We could send
robots to space. There's an article about that right now,
where you can send robots to space. But I want
to know do you think AI could replace politicians? And

(01:15:35):
how could it replace politicians? And I want to talk
about this just for a moment, because I've talked a
lot about blockchain replace being used to replace politicians and
just having a virtual digital influencer represent to you that
might be an interesting option and could the job of

(01:15:56):
politician become obsolete?

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
I think it's plausible, but there's a couple of different
avenues that it could take ultimately. You know, I'm I'm
very much ardently voluntarist. I'm very much an anarchist at
the end of the day. You know, when we're talking
about systems of government, we're talking about systems of controlling people,

(01:16:20):
which I am very adamantly against. But in in that regard,
you know, if we're talking about AI, you know, replacing
politicians and things. I can see because we've talked about
this previously on the show. I see your point of
view on it, and I can also see how it
can potentially be useful and you know, helping with you know,

(01:16:44):
actually getting some representation for people and you know, getting
rid of some corruption. But on the flip side, I
also see the despotic side of it, the way in
that it that the way in which it can be
used to just continue to centralize more power into the
hands you know, of these power hungry uh sort of

(01:17:08):
quote unquote elites, you know, the powers that should not
be that you know, run governments for their own purposes
and whatnot. And ultimately, the real representative, the real the
only way that someone can truly be represented is if
they represent themselves. If you're going to defer your power

(01:17:29):
to another person or another entity, if it comes down
to AI, ultimately you were giving that away into the
hands of of something else, because even in the sense
of AI, in that case, it is beholden to the
systems and the people who program those systems and the
inherent biases of the programming of those systems. So again,

(01:17:52):
you know, deferring back to you know, the anarchist voluntarious philosophy.
You are your own best representative. You cannot give away
your power to represent yourself as an individual to something
else and not expect to lose some of your individuality
and some of your sovereignty.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Yeah, I agree, But the issue is is with politicians
and lobbyism. You would eliminate lobbyism if we had AI politicians, allegedly,
and then you could set up blockchain voting and every
American could vote on every bill individually, and we'd have
what would be considered a legitimate democratic republic per se.

(01:18:34):
And instead of having somebody that half the time votes
for you, we would be able to always get what
the people want in majority based on voting. And there's
a lot of times like for example, here in Wisconsin,
there was votes to see whether or not they should
legalize marijuana or both medicinally and recreationally, and it passed
in major communities, but nobody is passing it because the

(01:18:56):
politicians refused to advance on any laws because we have
a very conservative state assembly. Is where I think it
was a liberal state assembly, that wouldn't be the case.
But there's a lot of things about the liberal State Assembly,
I would not like and we'd be able to get
like that fiscal conservativism and a little bit more of
that liberal social issues taken care of if we could

(01:19:22):
vote this way. And there's something to say about voting
yourself money. There was something that happened that was pretty
interesting here in Wisconsin where Elon Musk was paying everybody
one hundred dollars just to sign a petition that judges
should not be activists. And if you sign the petition,
you got one hundred dollars, and if you refer to
front and they put in your phone number, you got
an additional one hundred dollars for every person. How long

(01:19:45):
is it until we start voting ourself money?

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Once they start understanding that you can just pay people
to sign petitions and you give us money that way,
people will vote themselves money every time. That's one thing
we've learned from welfare. If the government is taking care
of you. There's a ru video I sent you yesterday.
The lady she's like, I gott no, she's't got no
food stamps, nothing like that, and she expects her two
hundred and fifty thousand TikTok followers to send her money,

(01:20:09):
and she says it is the state's responsibility to take
care of me and my children, which I don't agree
with at all. Right, and the analysts or conservative philosophy
the state is the worst person to take care of
you and your children. But boy, is a convenient if.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
You don't have to pay anything exactly, you know, that's
that's sort of what you know, Ron Paul refers to
as the welfare warfare state, where we have this this
system that has been created that makes people subservient to
the state. You know, that's that's the best way to
get you know, your drones to fall in line, is

(01:20:44):
if you create circumstances where you know, people are getting
their food from the state through EBT, they're getting checks
for you know, whatever, and there is a place, right
there is a place for certain you know, programs like that.
You know, I know that, you know very well firsthand.

(01:21:06):
You know, at certain points in my life, you know,
when I was a kid, we grew up very poor.
If we didn't have EBT, my sister and I would
have starved. My mother is disabled, she's unable to work.
Our father left, so without certain benefit programs, you know,
we would have been homeless. And starving. So there is
a place for these sorts of things. The problem is

(01:21:29):
that government loves to create circumstances that people can then
abuse these programs and just continue to live off of
them and live, you know, basically as a child of
the government. Oh daddy, government will take care of me,

(01:21:52):
rather than being an actual empowered individual that you know,
if they actually have the ability to take care of themselves,
they should, they absolutely should. And even when it comes
to you know, like things like EBT programs and you know,
things like that that I mentioned earlier. You know, a
big part of the issue is, you know, the government

(01:22:13):
just getting in the way when it comes to the
red tape bureaucracy. Because if so many people, if homeless
people or people that are impoverished and whatnot, if they
were able to actually grow their own food, you know,
if there weren't so many regulations on gardening and community
gardens and food growing and all these sorts of things

(01:22:35):
or homesteading. You know, if the government will just get
the hell out of the way and allow people to
actually care for themselves, we would have substantially less poverty.
We would have substantially less people going hungry. If the
government would just get the hell out of the way
and actually let them grow food and you know, create
these organizations community gardens and things of that not that

(01:22:58):
you know, things of that nature, you know, to actually
help themselves and others. So it's essentially a case of
the government benefiting from the very problems that they create,
which is of course the very nature of government itself.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Kung fu robots. That's that's what I'm talking about here
right now. Robots. But yeah, so back to what we
were talking about. This is the video, the clip I
was talking about that went viral for our listeners that
are talking. I want to hear this. Lady, we'll play
right here. Check us out.

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
And nobody has sent me a dollar. I've lost my
food stamps, I've lost my cash benefits. Section ME is
on hold, my disability checks are on hold. I have
almost two hundred thousand followers, and I can't get one
person to send me fifty cents.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
One person.

Speaker 4 (01:23:53):
It is the taxpayer's responsibility.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
To support me and my children.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
So if you are watching this and you don't send
me something, you're going to get blocked.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
I mean, she can share afford those beautiful fake eyelashes
can't she.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Pay for our kids?

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
You can't afford food. But she's got the pressed on
eyelashes and all the makeup, and she's getting her you
can obviously see she's getting her eyebrows done. She might
be doing it better herself, but.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
There's I'm sure, I'm sure this video is being filmed
on an iPhone or you know, nice Samsung.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
You know, she's she's got a bunch of steak in
the freezer at home, and it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
So that that's just there are multiple facets to that, right,
so we can we can definitely also say that a
lot of that mentality comes from the entitlement man, and
a lot of it, I think again comes down to
the welfare state and the way that the government has
necessitated this system of people being dependent on it. It

(01:25:00):
really is a culture of dependency that the government has
deliberately created to keep people in these you know, states
of dependence. And and then you know, we overlap that
with so many issues, the mental issues that are caused
by social media. You know, I mentioned earlier we were

(01:25:21):
discussing something else that you know, social media oftentimes can
be both a blessing and a curse. It's great the
way that it can connect people and uh, you know,
can be used to you know, blow up these small
businesses and people can genuinely become entrepreneurs and influencers and
creators and you know, get their businesses off the ground.
But at the same time, it creates this disconnect within

(01:25:44):
people and culture and society where people become very toxic
and mean to one another. And then it also creates
this sort of this egoism where you start to blow
up you know, I don't know if she said what
twenty six thousand some odd followers the thousand, yeah, exactly,
so we're never going on there again, right, and so

(01:26:07):
you know, you'll have these people that it's sort of
like the cult of celebrity where social media and followers
or friends on social media, you know, will blow up
someone's ego and make them feel this sort of entitlement
that does not exist, you know, newsflesh folks in the
world don't know you shit, it doesn't matter how many
followers you have. And you know, so there's so many

(01:26:31):
overlapping things here, and part of me kinda wants to think,
you know, this is just the you know, the hope
I'm in me that just kind of holps, this is
a bit and a skit and she's not actually serious,
because man, if she's actually serious, she's.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
Like, don I've come to learn that there's people that
just don't get it. They don't get it, Like I've
had philosophical conversations with people like I was having one,
and I know this is not the same thing, but
it was just the ideal of forgiveness, right, if you
make a mistake and you forgive some one and you
like in my religion is teaches you to forgive indefinitely.

(01:27:06):
You should always forgive no matter.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
What it is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
People can change and the ideas they can have an
opportunity to become better and new people, to become born again,
to leave that whole life behind and become something new.
But while having that conversation, person is like, well, they
could just do it again and again and again and again,
and you know what, it's just there's no there's no
real accountability there, and it's like, you don't understand the
main idea is changed. People just don't understand politics. They

(01:27:31):
don't understand the game behind the scenes. They don't understand
the fact that government isn't there to take care of
us and they shouldn't be and we've become slaves. We're
on a big plantation. Like my buddy Michael Heyes, who
we've had on the show, would say the Big Plantation
was a show back in the day when podcasting was
just starting, and you know.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
Like with with what Larkin Rose recently put out the
Jones Plantation.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
Right, so we're just we're on a bigger, bigger plantation.
And here it is. This is an interesting story which
I find very cool in Techi Dogan City, Japanese dream
of sustainable floating city. Don would you live on a
floating city? I mean this is where they'll keep those
werewolves for outer space on the floating city, bringing back

(01:28:17):
from the dead that are going to transform into werewells
because you know, there's got to be some military application.
By the way, I'm not seriously saying that they're werewells,
but I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised if there's some
military application behind bringing back destinct animals.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Right, Like, yeah, So I saw this story, I believe originally,
like the japan Times is something I follow a lot
of Japanese media, and I just thought it was so
cool when I when I thought when I first saw it,
and of course my initial reaction anytime.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
You think floating in the sky, don't you done well?

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
No, what I'm saying is this should be a practice
that everybody employs. Anytime I see something on social media,
especially someone that seems like sensation, like oh, floating city,
I immediately think it's bogus until I go in research
to fact check to whether or not it's legitimate. That's
something that everybody should do. So I originally saw this
pop up on like the Japan Times or something like that,

(01:29:13):
or maybe I saw it pop up. Yeah, that's what
it was. I saw it pop up on a meme
and I thought the meme was bullshit, but I thought
it'd be cool anyway, because I know that Japan, you know,
is you know, invested in building neat stuff like this.
So then I went and I looked it up and
I found an article about it from like Japan Times
or Japan Today or you know, one of their mainstream

(01:29:34):
media outlets, And yeah, I think it's very very interesting
the concept of creating these uh cities that will float
in the water, because I think there's a well in
a way, so you can think about it like that,
you know, I also just think about, like, you know,
the sustainability aspect of things. I mean, if it's floating
in the water, obviously hydro electric power is going to

(01:29:56):
be one of those sorts of things. And but then
immediately on the flip side, especially we're talking about places
like Japan or Thailand or whatever. You know, Uh, the
next thing it comes to mind about the downsides, Well,
we start thinking about tsunamis and things like that. Man
that I'm not quite sure. I think I read something
in the article about how they have like protections in

(01:30:18):
place for things like that, but that's been a minute
since I've read the piece, so so I don't know.
But yeah, very interesting concept.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
Nonetheless, don how much would I have to pay you
in order for you to drink cockroach milk? That's a
new trend. Cockroach milk?

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Gross? And I'm good? No thanks?

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
Are you sure?

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
I mean, I mean, let's be honest. If somebody's got
a million dollars cash in hand, sure, why not. I'll
down the class.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
That's not me. I'm not drinking anything that has come
in the first part of its name.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
That's understand. Hey, look, I'll be.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
All truth lies. Cockroach milk more nutritious than cow's milk.
Scientists released shocking study the term super food is often
bringing mind to brings to mind leafy greens, you know,
like if you're organic and o those things like being vegetarian,
by the way. But cockroach milk, by the way, which

(01:31:20):
I'll never drink, I don't think intentionally. Maybe they've gotten
me to be like, ah, we got you drink some
big beep milk, you know, But I don't get it. Man,
why are they trying so hard to get us to
eat the bugs? It's almost like classicism, like you must
eat bugs. Now, you gotta drink the blo drink the bugs.

(01:31:41):
What did they do? Like? I didn't know cockroaches had breasts?

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
Yeah, so how does that work?

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
Neither do nuts? So I'm not quite sure how they
call it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Yeah, I about to say, I've got no idea how
cockroach milk comes to be abouts. I saw the story,
I thought it was gross, and then I moved on,
so I did not handle it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
These wots to go back to the floating sale city.
Do you think maybe Nazi where wolves in outer space
drink cockroach milk?

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
They might, you know, they just might They don't have
hows up in space, so I can.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
Dire wolves they brought back from extinct or really were wolves.
I just want everyone to know that right now there's
a military purpose.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Oh Lord, God help us. This world is getting more
and more crazy. As we started, we were talking a
little bit about robots. But so we got about twenty
minutes left of the broadcast, and I guess I wanted
a kind of come full house and in the first
four months of this new presidency with Donald Trump. Donald first,

(01:32:50):
I wanted to talk about and I wanted to let
you answer some of the questions and talk about some
things that maybe some listeners out there may have some
different viewpoints on. But what are some of the good
things that you think you've seen the Trump administration? And
also what are some of the things that are some
huge red flags that you're seeing, Because there's some things

(01:33:10):
that this administration has done that I thought never would
get done. Obviously, the releasing of people who were in jail,
the January six ers, the Silk Road Creator, amongst other things.
And then now we got this tariff thing that's going on,
and people are like, you don't understand tariffs. If you
don't like tariffs, and I'm seeing the sheeple hat when

(01:33:33):
I was diving in the sheep od. This is where
I kind of wanted to go with it, because not
only do we have during the whole Biden administration. You know,
at least the liberals during the Biden administration were like, yeah,
you don't know where the hell he's at. Like it
turns out he wasn't even signing anything yet, like auto
Pen we found out and like some robot, Pen was
signing his name. So they're gonna have this big hearing
coming up. I'm sure to figure out whether or not

(01:33:55):
Joe Biden's signatures are legitimate. If they're not, then that
means they can go after Anthony Foch, which is interesting
and so I'm watching it. That'd be another thing I
would find very interesting. Robert Kennedy taking toxins out of
food and synthetics. That seems interesting to me. But don
what are some let's start with some positive things. What
are some positive positive things you've seen out of this
administration in the first four months, and what are some

(01:34:15):
things that should be very alarming.

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
Well, I'm gonna hurt a lot of feelings when I
say this. There's one of the only positive things I
can think of is you know, freeing Ross Albert, freeing
some of the political prisoners. Beyond that, we're seeing this
administration continue the march of its predecessors, to continue to

(01:34:38):
advance authoritarian tendencies and consolidations of power the likes of
which this nation cannot sustain. And I don't care who
gets pissed off about it, because the rose colored glasses
need to come off. People need to realize that it

(01:34:59):
does matter which side is in power. The authoritarianism, the
despotism always is increasing.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
Are we talking about executive orders here?

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Don We're talking about everything that the fricking government is
doing to erode the rights and the civil liberties of
the people. You know, we were talking, we talked about
this last year when or towards the end of the
Biden administration, when they were or even even in the
beginning of the Biden administration. Actually I remember talking about

(01:35:32):
when Biden was attempting to push through this legislation referring
basically talking about domestic extremism and you know, creating this
legislation to go after people within the country on these
pretenses that they're white supremacists or their domestic terrorists or

(01:35:53):
you know, all of this very vague language used in
this legislation. And we saw that during Obama, we saw
this during Bush, we saw this during Clinton. I mean,
everybody remembers when you could be labeled as a potential
domestic terrorist just for having a Ron Paul Bumper sticker
right right.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
Conspiracy theory, We're saw on it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
We're seeing a lot of these things. And of course,
you know, some of them came to fruition during the
Biden aministration when they were going after the January sixth protesters, uh,
you know, making them, turning them into political prisoners and things.
We're seeing it now as well. And we also talked
about this during the Biden administration. Whitney Webb had a
great article talking about, uh, the digitization of the border,

(01:36:42):
basically turning the border into you know this digital surveillance,
you know, healscape. And we're seeing the Trump administration weaponize
anti immigrants language, rhetoric and policies to continue to erode
the freedoms and the rights of people. Right of people
to be here, the right of people to say things,
the right to protest the government, the right to assembly,

(01:37:05):
and if you know, people don't want to hear what
I have to say or take my word for it,
just go to the Ruftherford Institute website Rutherford dot org
and just read some of the writings of Constitutional adjourn
Attorney John W. Whitehead. He's been one of the greatest
libertarian thinkers of this generation. You know, he has spent years,

(01:37:28):
over a decade calling out the bullshit of Obama, calling
out the authoritarianism of the Trump administration, the first Trump administration,
the authoritarianism of the Biden administration, and the authoritarianism of
this government administration. And so, you know, if people, you know,
want to hear it from somebody who's actually an expert
on constitutional law and the ways in which this administration

(01:37:51):
is continuously violating the Constitution almost on a daily basis,
go ahead and read some of the work of the
Constitutional atturn on John W. Whitehead, Rutherford Institute. And man,
it's admittedly, I am, I was unprepared for this question.
You did not.

Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
Only had a few minutes left, and I understand that
there's a lot to do.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
If I knew that, If I knew I was going
to be asked that question, I would have come with
the receipts. I would have had articles set up and
I would have had.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
I mean, it's part of the conversation of just casualness
because there's things I've seen that I and things that
were promised that I'm seeing. But then there's a whole
bunch of other things that are going on behind the scenes,
like the whole Day Live situation. What you're talking about
if you don't know, they live as a movie with
Roddy Roddy Piper w world Wide Wrestling Federation wrestler. But

(01:38:44):
he essentially puts on glasses and he sees drones in
the sky. And you know, it's interesting because I'm using
drones and facial recognition and all those things to monitor
the border. It's one of those things, is it necessary
should we want more of as to surveillance state? We
got to do some thing about having a border because
terrorism could sneak across it. But you would think that

(01:39:04):
they'd already be here by now, and they might be
and there's about it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
None of that. But people have to remember so all
of the things that the government is fear mongering about, Oh,
you know, we got to fight the terrorists, we got
to fight the cartels. These are all things that our
government has created. Let's not forget. Al Qaeda is a
product of the CIA, is a product of the CIA.
The cartels that are in power in the in Central

(01:39:30):
America and Mexico and whatnot. These cartels were empowered by
what the CIA. The CIA was helping these cartels one
drugs across the border. You know, we remember Gary Webb,
we remember Dark Alliance, we remember all of the evidence
showing that the crack trade that the CIA was involved
in in the eighties and the nineties, or the cocaine

(01:39:52):
trade that they were involved in the eighties and the
nineties directly led to the crack epidemic in south central
Los Angeles and elsewhere. So all of these things that
the government fearmongers over again, as I mentioned earlier, you know,
they are capitalizing on problems that they themselves created.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
Well, and that's where we come down to, and we're
seeing other cool headlines in the news. Klaus Schwab Stepstones
from the World Economic Forum. Is that a sign of
weakness that the World Economic Forum is losing its steamed on.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
I would like to think so. I mean, who knows
what's going on behind the scenes. I certainly don't know.
I mean, it'd be great if you know, we saw
the headline tomorrow. You know, the World Economic Forum is
just shutting its doors, and you know it's going to
be no more. But chances are there's just going to
be somebody that's just as bad as Klaus Schwab is
going to take his place, and you know, all of
that nonsense is going to continue. But I don't know.

(01:40:50):
Hopefully it's a sign that the World Economic Forum is
getting its ass kicked and they're starting to weaken and
shut down.

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
Because the idea of these organizations and think things is
that they don't include your thought. Right, There's a bunch
of wealthy people and people that have been put in
authoritarian positions that go there and they decide the future
of the world economics and the world sustainable development and
smart growth, and they have all these cool cliche terms.
They have climate change, all this stuff they want you

(01:41:18):
to be worried about, and they want you to worry
about that coming. It's interesting, like all these things in
America that we want and that we voted for, we
don't generally get any and so a lot of people
when they got a little bit they were completely bought
in and sold in. They're painting our current administration as

(01:41:39):
a savior, and he's not. Donald Trump is not a savior.
Although there are things that he does has done that
are interesting and so there's some things that he might
do yet that I like, and there's some things he
has done that are very concerning and alarming, especially when
it comes to the police state, when it comes to
surveillance state and the things of using technology.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
You know, obviously not you know, the executive order.

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
Is getting a little out of hand that we got
to reel that in. You know, the next president's was
going to undo.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
It, right exactly. Yeah, Well, not only that, but also
the precedents that it sets. You know, It's something that
we've talked about over at the Free Thought Project for
years now, you know, going back to the Obama administration.
Even if you know, if a president signs an executive
order expanding their power, allowing them to do something, even

(01:42:28):
if they themselves don't then use that power, that power
is still in place for the next guy.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
That's what we were talking about a lot during the
Biden administration, or rather no, during the first Trump administration
when Trump was you know, expanding executive power and giving
the president the right to do this, that and the third.
And we were like, even if he himself doesn't use
these things, the next guy could potentially use them, and
it's going to be in for a bad way. And
then when the Biden administration got into power, and of course,

(01:42:57):
you know, that geriatric corpse wasn't actually doing anything himself.
He was basically like mayor mccheese. It's a figurehead. But
you know, when the people who are pulling the strings
of the Biden administration, you know, started using these powers
that were put in place by the you know, the
previous Trump administration's expansions of power. The Republicans and the

(01:43:17):
Conservatives they want to bitch about it, and they say, oh,
he's he's exercising too much power. Well then maybe Trump
shouldn't have given him that power. And you know, and
then in the same way that you know, they were like, well,
the Biden is expanding his power. The president shouldn't have
this much power. And now that the Trump administration is back,
and they're like, yeah, you know, expand that power, use
it and now. And then what's going to happen when

(01:43:39):
the next guy's in office, you know, and we have
this continuing flip flop back and forth, and it's it's
just so damn tiresome, you know, when people simply don't
recognize the fact that the government will never save you.
The government is not here to help you. The billionaires
that you are licking the boots of do not know

(01:43:59):
your name. They don't give a shit about you. They
would push you on to a train track if it
meant they could save a penny. And you know, people
need to wake up and realize that they are their
own leader. You need to take control of your own life,
get to know your neighbors, start working together, and that
is how you come up with solutions to the things

(01:44:20):
that are actually important to you that are impacting your
life on a daily basis. The politicians and the billionaires
and the corporations don't give a damn folks.

Speaker 1 (01:44:28):
And to finish our show off, here's this lovely news
story a Soviet doctors wild experiment to create high bred
human ape super warriors. So for those who think that
dire wolf human super warriors is too far fetched and
space space werewolves or Nazee werewolves in space is not
a real thing, or couldn't happen. Well, you never know

(01:44:50):
what they might try. At least you don't bring them back.
Dire wolves and the concept of a man beast. High
Breds and chimeras have been something they've been working on
for some time. There was a this whole newspaper article,
I think from about fifteen years ago where the UK
is like they're making one hundred and fifty animal human
hybrids plant human hybrids, like I don't know what plant
human means, Like we're gonna have like poison Ivy the superhero,

(01:45:14):
are we gonna have? You know, the future is a
very marvel future, don I wouldn't doubt it, where there's
gonna be mutations and humans and humans are gonna have
superabilities and stuff like that because they're creating them in
peaju dishes, in labs, animal human hybrids, designer babies, artificial
womb facilities, weather modification, the spraying of you know, aluminum

(01:45:35):
in the air to ban you know, to block the sunlight,
and Welsbeck cloud seatings, stratospheric aerosol injections, you know, all
these crazy things. The pyramids having secret chambers that go
down like tons, like I can't remember what they're saying
something like, you know, thousands of feet below the pyramids.

Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
We should get we should get Josh Sigretson on to
talk about it. I remember, I'll text you. Yeah. So yeah,
So Josh did a great video talking about that a
couple of weeks ago, and I watched his report on
it and we were actually featured in that video for
three five seconds. Yeah. He included a clip of when
he was on the Rundown Live the last time talking

(01:46:15):
about these sorts of things. Uh so that was really
neat a monster.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
He's a big name in liberty and freedom, Josh secrets
and is a good guy. I've hung out with Josh
Secrets and I've brought broke bread and wine with him.
He's a decent person. Uh went the waffle house. Hell yeah,
it's not the greatest food. But when we were down
in Texas by both we both spoke at float Fest,
which is something that went on down there, and it

(01:46:40):
was after I did the South By Southwest must thing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
Robert F.

Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
Kennedy quick thoughts about him going after the healthy items
and food and big pharma about us trying to find
out the cause of autism. Within the next couple of months,
What are your thoughts there done.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
So there's there's some promising things with R. K Junior
that that's an They're one of the things that I
have been slightly optimistic about. But at the same time,
we're also seeing the ways in which he has been
so heavily compromised, you know, because we have you know,
if we look at the reporting from Children's Health Defense

(01:47:16):
from the past several years, which is previously OURKA Junior's publication,
he stepped down from his position when he got into
political power to avoid conflicts of interest, always a good
thing to do.

Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
They're always calling out the toxicity of the MMR vaccines.
But now that he is in power, uh, you know,
he's outright, oh yeah, the MMR. There's nothing wrong with
the MMR vaccine. You know, that should be on the
children's vaccine schedule and uh, you know, all these sorts
of things that it's just completely antithetical to a lot

(01:47:49):
of the work that he has done and that his
organization has done. And you know, it's some people try
to defend it and they say, oh, you know, you
got to play the game, you know, to try to
get ahead. And I made the point on Twitter about
maybe about a month or so ago now where I

(01:48:11):
have been told, I've heard people say, and I've been
told myself that to get ahead in politics sometimes you
have to bend your principles. And my reaction and response
to that is a very blatant buck that you should
always always put your principles before politics, because that is

(01:48:31):
how politics becomes principled again, not the other way around.

Speaker 1 (01:48:37):
That being said, guys, support us. Go to the Rundown
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We're gonna breathe life back into this operation. We took
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(01:48:58):
gonna talk to some community experts and then maybe talk
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of what might be happening. Very interesting stuff amongst other
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Well down, I

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