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Speaker 1 (00:26):
From the mysteries of the paranormal to world headline news.
We cover it all. Welcome to the Sacred Division and
now Bishop James Long.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
And now we're live on all of our all of
our formats, and I appreciate, I do appreciate all you
guys being here. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you,
thank you. So Happy Friday to you guys, really happy
Friday to you. So for those of you who don't know,
Fridays are our paranormal Friday shows. And also Saturday is

(01:07):
also where we have like the Sacred Division weekend edition.
So Saturdays are usually wet. When I do with lectures,
I don't get to all of the articles that I
normally do regarding to the paranormal, and I've got a
lot of articles tonight, so what we do on Saturday
is kind of like a carryover. It's a Saturday night
weekend edition at eight pm Eastern Standard time. So let

(01:30):
me let you know that tonight is Paranormal Fridays, and
then tomorrow is our Sacred Division the weekend addition, that's paranormal,
and then the rest of the week is all devote
dedicated to you know, the Gospel and Bible study and
night prayer. So before the haters out there saying you
never talk about God, will you never show up for
night prayer. So we have night prayer Monday through Friday

(01:53):
at ten pm Eastern Sata time. We have Bible Study
every Sunday and Wednesday at eight pm Eastern Satay time.
So two days a week, just two days of the week.
That's it. We dedicated to the secular topics of the
paranormal and even even then even tonight, it's really deals
a lot with theology and of course demonology. But before

(02:14):
we get into this presentation, and I'm going to remind
people about this throughout throughout because people are just tuning in.
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and he has a true passion to helping. And these
are kids that truly need assistance. And people say, again,

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I've talked about this before, Well, wow, there's people in
America need help. Okay, fine, again, the orphanage, the kids
in orphans in the United States comparing to the kids
and orphans in Africa is it's it's apple and oranges.
You're it's two different things. You know. The kids in
orphanages in the United States can go to a clean
you know, water fountain and get clean water. You know,

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the kids I've talked about this before, the kids in Africa,
and when they have great, big, huge bellies, it's not
because they're full, it's because it's the parasites of dirty water.
So there's a big difference. You can't compare. And quite honestly,
as you know, if you're if you are a Christian
or just a good human being, you can do both.
Imagine actually helping the orphanage here in the United States

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and abroad. Imagine doing both. Could you imagine? But anyway,
so I don't tolerate this, well, we can't help other people.
Really seriously, that's not what Jesus said. But nonetheless, Uh,
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(05:34):
so would I, and so would the kids that we
are that we are helping. Now, if you want to
go to my website because you're really really bored and
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NG dot com. And that's all the information is there
about who I am. If you're really bored and you

(05:55):
know the television shows all that stuff, just go there. Uh.
And all. So, if you want to go to the
church's website and it's you, actually you're wrong Marco and
reads second Maccabee's So don't come in here and and espouse.
If you're going to have a conversation that's going to
be theological, at least come prepared with more than two
brain cells. Uh. Anyway, as far as really interrupted again

(06:18):
on TikTok uh. If it continues, I'm going to put
subchat on. That's your last warning. That's it I'm giving you.
I'm telling you now, I'm not playing these stupid games.
We're done. We're done with the games. And if you
want to go to the church's website. It's U s

(06:38):
OCC dot org. U s occ dot org and you
can think, uh, pardon me, sub chat is on and
it will remain on for the rest of the night period. Pity.

(07:00):
Speak to your therapist. I'm not in session, okay. U
s OCC dot org. That is the church's website. I
want to remind everybody that we do have night prayer.
We certainly need to pray for those who like to
disrupt everything because that's all they do on our Friday night,
because they have no life. And you can Night prayer
is tonight at ten pm Eastern Standard time. Yeah, so

(07:23):
ten pm Eastern Standard time that is tonight, and you
can go to USOCC dot org. That is the church's
website there it is well, thank you Thereshena. Yeah, you know,
I tell you what. The items on the on the website,
they're really nice. They are they are really nice. Oh no, no, no,
Susic Hue. We're not gonna mute you. No, no, not

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at all. We believe me. I understand, I understand. It
gets annoying. Uh, it's the constant barrage, the constant barrage
of hate. It is just vicious, it really is. And
I hate talking about it. I get I get said
tired of talking about it too, but it just doesn't stop.
And these these are cockroaches, They don't stop. They're just

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vicious human beings and they are demonically influenced. And one
day they're going to meet our maker and he won't
be smiling them on the day of judgment. But they're
just too silly to understand that what they're doing is
playing with fire, and one day they're going to see
fire because they keep spreading hate and they think there
are no consequences for their behavior and you are wrong.

(08:26):
There are. And so but thank you there, thank you,
Thank you guys for subscribing. I appreciate that, appreciate that,
but you don't have to. Okay, let's not no more,
no more subscriptions, no more subscriptions, Ellie. I appreciate that,
but no more subscriptions, Elie, thank you, thank you, so yeah,

(08:48):
thank you. I just don't want a bunch of people
coming in here who are trolling, and and then who
are subscribers that think that they have a free pass
to to troll. So okay, but thank you for one
from It does happen when you're trying to when you're

(09:12):
trying to give one. Then all of a sudden there's
like fifteen like what wait wait, no, no, no, And
by the way, for those of you on TikTok, we
don't know about this TikTok situation. We don't know has
it been sold, has it not been sold? Are they
doing a United States version? Are they not doing the
United States version? No one really knows, because TikTok has

(09:36):
said no, it has not happened. And then other people, Reuters,
which is a pretty i mean, that's a pretty reputable organization,
they're saying that it has been and then in September
there will be a TikTok for United States only and
you'll only be able to access the United States items.

(09:58):
That's it. And in March, well, yeah, it's supposed to
be have for those of you who don't know, it's
supposed to in September, they're supposed to Reuter's claims they're
going to have a TikTok United States. And then in
March of twenty twenty six, this TikTok goes away. So

(10:23):
that's at least that's what they're saying, but TikTok is
saying that's not happening. Oh, who knows? Who knows? We
don't know, Yeah, we don't know. Well, here's what we
do know. We do know that it's Friday Nights and
we're going to talk about a topic that is a
very serious Thank you very much. It is a very
serious one and it is one that we can certainly

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cannot take lightly. And as in Exorcist, this is one
of the reasons why I immediately put subchat on because
I'm not going to have people come in and disrupt
this conversation. In the same manner, I'm not going to
have people coming in and disrupt Bible study or night prayer.
Possession is can be a very frightening experience. And I

(11:13):
don't talk a whole lot about possession itself because I
have done so already in twenty five years. But I
realize a lot of people are new and I will
tell you that as an exorcist, the first the first possession,
or the first exorcism for me at least, is the

(11:34):
one that stood out the most. And this is the
one that that aired on the Eli Roth Presents, a
Legion of Exorcis show that I'm on as a cast member,
and they they re enacted that you can watch it
on HBO Max or whatever on Travel channel. Well, thank you,
thank you very much, Nathan, Thank you, Nathan, Notathan. Sorry.

(12:02):
I remember, you know, when you read about possession and
what could happen, it's one thing to read about it,
but it's a it's a different world when you actually
walk into a room where someone is under the stage
of possession or or quite not quite and they're agitated,

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and you there is a term called transient possession and
perfect possession. Transient possession is when the demonic will enter
the body and leave it will. Most of the possession
cases that I have worked or it was transient possession.
And so I remember going into a room. I was

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the I was not the primary. I was the secondary.
I was the assistant. And when we walked into the room,
it was a young girl and she was very agitated.
And I could tell through you know, several things that
I know to watch out for the determine if the
person is going into transit possession. And I'm not going

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to tell those things. And I remember she was making
like this guttural noise. We began doing called the Litany
of the Saints. So we you know, Saint Michael, pray
for us. So he would chant and I would say,
pray for us. Saint God say no, Saint Mary, pray
for us. And she just made this guttural noise and

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she just laid back in the bed. And that's when
she just kind of stopped. And so I checked the
I went over and I checked the eyelids. I raised
the eyelids and it was complete, solid blackness in the eyes.
I'll never forget it, never, never forget it. It was

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a blackness where I could see my reflection and that's
the only way to do. I could see myself in
her eyes. And there was nothing there. There was nothing,
but it felt like while there was nothing there, it
felt like an apex predator was looking right at me.
And I became I was completely catatonic. I couldn't move,

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I couldn't talk, I couldn't ask for help. I felt
it was like I felt like prey, Like I was
looking at a lion and I was a rabbit and
I was cornered and there was nothing that I was
going to do or say it's going to change the situation.
It was a very vulnerable and scary moment. And when

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you read about when you read about the eyes going black,
in some cases that can also be a neurological condition.
It could be catatonic neurological issue. But this was not
the case. But I remember looking into the eyes and
I saw my reflection and I just froze because I

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wasn't expecting to see that. I was kind of expecting
to see maybe the eyes rolling in the kind of
rolling in the back of the eye. That's what I
was kind of expecting. So I was preparing myself for that.
But as I lift the eyelids, it was all black.
There was another there were no whites, and I remember
in the primary then took me by the collar. He

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did me a blessing. Yes, are you okay? Can you continue? Yes,
I'm ready to go. I was shaken a little, I
was shook it up, and we continued the right. That's
the one that I saw her when she was lying
on the bed. This is the only time I've ever
seen a form of levitation. She was lying on the
bed like this, and it was like someone had tied
a rope around her waist and was just lifting it up,

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because she just went like this, and I heard the
vertebrate crack and I was really like, oh my, she
just broke her back. I mean it was a really
loud crack, and I was worried that her her vertebe
had broken, and so we continued on the right and
the body just slowly went down. That's the only form

(15:59):
of levitation that I've seen. But it wasn't. It wasn't
as if she you know, you could you know, I've
seen it on television sometimes where people, you know, they're
laying down and they're pushing their feet upward and you
can see it. That wasn't like that at all. There
was no movement in her feet or her head they're
trying to push up. It was just like someone literally
put a rope around there and just lifted her up.

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So I tell you that, yeah, it was it was
the movement was that I can't. She was very the
body was rigid, very rigid, But it was just like
someone had just lifted her. So that's all I can

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describe it as. The room, the room of the feeling
of the room completely changed. So when the eyes went
black and then I pretty much came to after I
was blessed, the room felt heavy, and the only way
to describe it is if you have you if you've
ever been to sauna and it's really really hot and

(17:03):
it feels heavy, Now you've got to multiply that times
one hundred. It just feels incredibly heavy and oppressive. Thank you, Michelle.
That's all like, that's the way I can describe it.
So you when that happens and the demonic has taken

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possession of the body, and it's transient possession in this
case the room. In the very beginning, it starts out like,
for example, okay, if you've ever gone outside right before
a major thunderstorm, a major thunderstorm, and you feel that energy,
you can feel it, you can feel it in the air.

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It's those are called negative ions and you so you
walk outside and it's like, wow, this is energetic. That's
what it feels right right before the demonic takes control.
Thank you. And then when when the demonic is present,
that energy is still present, but it's more oppressive. And again,

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for those of you who are on Facebook and KGRDB
rating and all this other stuff, when I say thank you,
because I run the show on two different shows, and
thank you very much, and my friends there on TikTok
or offering gifts, so let's talk about two cases that
are some of the most well known cases in the world.
And a lot of people will ask me about the
Exorcist the movie. Just check my monitor and how accurate

(18:33):
was the movie versus the real case. Well, I was
actually at the exorcist house in Saint Louis on the
Travel Channel show Exorcism Live. So the story producers from
the Travel Channel contact in me and said, look, we
would like for you to come and perform a blessing

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on the home. And the backstory was is there was
a couple living there and the wife was pregnant, but
she did not want to bring a child into the
home that obviously was one of the most famous homes
in the world because it's where the exorcist was, and

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so because she was obviously very uncomfortable with it and
that she asked if I would be willing to come
bless the home and perform the minor right of exorcism.
But That's what I've been doing for twenty five years.
Of course, sure, no problem. They I get it. I
understand they advertise it as Exorcism Live, like I was
performing an exorcism on a person. I didn't. I couldn't
control how they were going to advertise it. I was

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just there to perform the minor right of exorcism. So
I got into I went into the home, and downstairs
was completely different. It felt oppressive, but walking up the
stairs to the little boys room, that walking up those stairs,

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I felt an incredible heaviness like I felt in the
first exorcism. And I will never forget. I was there
with chip coffee, and I remember going into the room
and we were begin the blessing and we heard this
growl right in the closet. Of course, I think it
was a live show, and I don't know if they

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went into a I don't know if they went into
a commercial or not. I don't know. But they only
gave me a ten minute segment. As it guys, I
can't perform the minor writer of extracism in ten minutes,
so they allowed me. When lights were turned off and
we went off air, they allowed me to complete the blessing.
But contrary to what we see in film and television
and other areas of popular culture, demonic attacks, especially possession,

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are rare. So think of it this way. Why would
a demon spend all their energy to throw you off
a building? When instead they can infiltrate your mind, causing
you to feel depressed, causing you to think that you're worthless,
so that you can throw yourself off the building by yourself. See, friends,

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this is the way. That's the true way of demons. Look,
many symptoms of demonic attacks. There's a lot of psychological illness,
and in fact, it can be challenging to differentiate between
a psychological illness an outside influence like an attack, etc.
But demonic influence has been broken down into three observable phases.

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All right, and we're going to talk about this because
I want to explain this. Have you been I've always
so so far, I performed thirty three exorcisms on people
who are truly possessed. I bless thousands of home through
the years. In the thirty three exorcisms, some of them

(21:53):
were very very violent. Some of them I can't talk
about fully. Thank you to chat on TikTok, because I
would be banned because especially with incubis cases, because the
incubist cases are I mean, all of them are are
pretty horrible, but the incubist cases are very graphic and

(22:18):
incredibly violent. And there was one case that I think
bothered me the most and she was sixty eight years old.
And so no, no, no, Susan, you no, I just cut.
Please understand that when I'm doing a presentation or lecture,
very rarely do I answer questions because I'm trying to

(22:39):
focus on the lecture and people will ask me about, well,
what about ghost of insures and what about this? And
what about that, and like, well, I'm not talking about
ghost of insures. I'm talking about this. So that's why
I'm very laser focused on the topics that we're talking about.
I have had a Succubis case. Okay, so let's get
into the lecture, all right, Yeah, but I have had
a couple of them. So first, demonic infestation, demonic oppression,

(23:05):
and demonic possession. But really there's another part of oppression,
and it's called demonic obsession. Okay, thank you very much.
So what I mean by that infestation demonic entity has

(23:25):
infested itself within the home. Then you have demonic oppression
and demonic obsession. Demonic oppression is when the demon begins
to attack you physically, biding, scratching, pinching, causing extreme sleep deprivation.
And at the same time, you have what's called demonic
obsession where it begins to attack you on an intellectual level.

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So you think you're going crazy. You're clearly seeing this,
you're hearing it, and the point of that is for
to attack your in and will. This is why I
tell you trolls fall under demonic activity. I try my best.

(24:10):
I can only do so much, but I try to
educate people. Trolling is a form of demonic activity because
when you trow, you are purposely trying to break someone's
intellect and will. You're trying to hurt them on an
intellectual level. You're breaking them down physically. That is exactly

(24:32):
what demons do. And I believe one can lose a
salvation because demonic activity is nothing to play around with.
And if I can reach one person, one person who
trows often, and maybe maybe this me saying this will

(24:54):
make them think maybe I should stop, then it's worth it. First,
let's talk about the demonic infestation somewhere that feels really creepy,
like you might feel like you're you really don't want
to be there all alone. You can't figure out why
a place where there have been sometimes horrible things that
have occurred. You know, I'm not going to go into

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details but a place where many businesses have started and
gone bankrupt. Dominic infestation. People will have talk about how
it's heavy, it's depressing. They began to think a lot
of negative thoughts. It begins banging in the walls, or

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the doors, or the windows, many times in threes, as
a form of mockery of the Holy Trinity. As I
told Zach many years ago when he was scratched on
his back. Sometimes you will smell sulfur. Other times you
will smell like rotten flesh. But it's a you know
that there's something not right now. Demonic oppression and demonic obsession.

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These are, in fact the demonic will begin to bite
you and pinch you and scratch you, hit you, sometimes
even throwing you, knocking you down, pushing you, pulling your hair.
It is past sleep deprivation. You get to a point
where you're physically so exhausted that you just can't go

(26:30):
on anymore, You can't fight, and then you have what's
called demonic obsession. And demonic obsession is again when it
begins to interact with you, you truly believe that you
have some type of psychological illness. It mimics schizophrenia. You
will hear it speak to you, and it will tell
you terrible things. For example, if clergy is coming, don't

(26:53):
listen to them, and it will say the clergy is evil.
They're going to hurt you. You know, don't spend time
with that person. It's trying to isolate you from your family,
your friends, and at this moment, your intellect and will
are being constantly the tact you got to understand. Imagine

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you're in your house, the lights are out, and you're
trying to go to sleep, and then you begin to
hear this guttural noise interact with you. Don't go to sleep,
stay awake, I'm watching you, or you begin to feel well.
Some people described it as hands, very cold, icy hands

(27:36):
and claws. Matter of fact, one case that I had
said that she felt it first started with a like
a hand. It was ice cold, and that she could
felt the claws just going down her leg. And it
would happen all the time when she was trying to
go to sleep, and it would be this constant barrage

(27:56):
of psychological torture, and every time they tried to go
to sleep, they couldn't because sometimes they would smell its
future breath when it was interacting with them, or it's
sometime it would bite them or pinch them, scratch them.

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Now in this stage, many times you have personality changes.
So someone perhaps maybe used to be very let's say
they used to love going to church, and now they've
isolated themselves and they want nothing to do with it.
They stay at home all the time, where they used
to be very gregarious, So they used to be always

(28:39):
out and bubbly, and all that has changed. And this
is really what happens when you're going into possession. So
in the stage of possession, you do not remember the
stage at all. You remember what led up to possession,
but when you are possess, you have no memory of

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what you do, what you say, because it is not you.
The person goes into it a catatonic state. They remember nothing.
So a lot of people ask, well, why does the
devil pick these individuals? Nine times out of ten, there's
always some type, some type of invitation. And what I

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mean by that is, let's say you go to a
location and you shouldn't go, and it's known to have
demonic activity, and you say, come on, I dare you
to do something. I dare you to push me? Dare
you to scratch me. Whatever it is, Well, that very moment,
that's a form of invitation. The demonic now has attached
itself to you. You go home, and now that you're home,

(29:45):
now you have all in of itself. You have what's
called demonic infestation. And the process starts very much like
nepaarian zee. And so this is why I tell people. Look,
I know, people say, you know, the Wiji boards and
all this other stuff, it's you know, they want to
tell you it's not real. And I'm telling you now

(30:07):
they're telling you incorrect. Do not listen to people who
tell you that wija boards are perfectly fine. It is not.
They are not. And I beg you don't listen to them.
So possession really, when you think of this, especially diagnosing
someone with possession, so there is an extreme aversion to

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religious items. Sometimes they will have an outburst of fury
that's normally accompanied by blasphemies or insults directed towards God
or even the religious object. And in most acute episodes,
some show furious rage so that the person can lose

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even what appears to be consciousness. And there is a
malignant character, if you will, that comes through and during
this type of moment, the eyes will will roll backwards
or downwards. Sometimes the eyes go completely white. The facial

(31:21):
muscles during possession, they're very tense at first, and the
hands will then begin contorting as well as the facial features.
It's very serpenting. It looks very serpenting light. I mean,
it's incredibly unnatural contortion of the body and of the

(31:41):
facial expressions. And of course outside of the there's another
personality that can come through if you're dealing with multiple possession,
and when you're dealing with that, obviously the right has
to That can be pretty lengthy. Okay, let's get into

(32:06):
analyst mckel Annals mckel. For those of you don't know, Yeah,
this is this is this is a scary topic. So
I do. I have had many cases where the possessed
said that it was Satan or Lucifer that was present

(32:26):
that that that occurs quite often only because it's trying
not to intimidate and so but you don't listen. There's
by the way, there's no there's no such thing as
a conversation during an exorcism. That doesn't happen. There is
no conversation. It is prayer. So the solemn rite is
several prayers that you must do, and you command in

(32:50):
the name of Christ that it gives you its name
and hour of departure. And I'm not going to explain why.
And that's the only thing that you want from as
amount of fact in the right. The right calls for
silencing the voice. And the reason it being for that
is because many times it can be very disorienting. Now
there's a term called it throws its voice, and what

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I mean by that is, for example, if the person
is under the stage of possession and it will scream.
And if you ever go on to YouTube and you
listen to the there's an eight D surround sound. There's
several of them that you can listen to. The voice
will be behind you and in front of you, and

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kind of all right. The whole purpose is to disorient you,
and it can be very disorienting because you'll hear the
person scream here, and then you're hearing another scream behind you.
You're looking behind seeing if there's anything behind you, and
so you have to silence the voice. And that's one
other thing that's required. This is why when people say
can anyone perform an exorcism? No, No, you need to

(33:58):
be trained. You absolutely need to be trained, because if
you don't know where the person is under the stage
of possession, then you have no idea what you're doing,
and a person can go into cardiac arrest. Are they
gonna have seizures? Remember, the body has gone through extreme trauma,

(34:19):
extreme trauma, and the body can only sustain so much.
That's why I always have someone that's present that's trained
in the medical field with me when I performing all
thirty three exorcistms, because it's too dangerous not to because
I'm not training in the medical field, and so if
you don't know what you're doing, that person could expire.

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Now there's a let me explain this before we get
to analyst Michel. There is a term called supplicating exorcism
and an imperative exorcism. Supplicating exorcism, it's also known as deliverance.
Not necessarily, No, it can be anybody who's trained, the
monitor of the vitals to look who someone who's trained

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to know the signs of stroke or heart attack, a nurse,
preferably a nurse, or even a paramedic. So a supplicating
exorcism is this you can perform what's called a deliverance. Now,
here's what I'm talking about. Just hain tight with your questions, guys,

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because a lot of the questions are not necessarily about
this topic and it's kind of throwing me off a
little bit. So I appreciate them. Just I'll get your questions.
I promise you I will. So oh yeah, oh yeah,
Madam Man is asking can someone who has saved be possessed? Certainly,
all right, back to what I was saying, imperative excer Yeah,

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And I'm not trying to be rude. It's just because
this is a really in depth topic and you know,
there's so many different topics that it throws me off
in that I lose my train of thought of exorcism
and supplicating exorcism. So moderators, just remind people on TikTok,
I'll get your questions in a moment. Imperative exorcism that

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can only be performed by a trained exorcist because you
command in the name of Christ that the demonic leave
the body, you must be trained in the solemn right
of exorcism. Now, with a supplicating exorcism that's also known
as a deliverance, anybody can pray a prayer of deliverance,

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but there's a difference between the two. A deliverance is
when a demonic has attached itself to a person, and
you have what's called demonic attachment, that person is under
the stage of oppression and obsession. You pray what's called
a supplicating exorcism. You know, heavenly fathered, please release this

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person from the stringholds of the demon, so you're praying
over that person. Anybody can do this. However, that can
be very, very dangerous because depending on where this person
is under the stage of oppression and obsession, that person
could go into possession. Now you're no longer dealing with

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supplicating exorcism. You're dealing with imperative exorcism, and that is
when the person is standing in persona CHRISTI in the
person of Christ, and you command in the name of
Jesus for this demon to leave. That is a completely
different situation. So a prayer of deliverance is different when

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the person is now under the stage of possession. By
the way, a supplicating exorcism absolutely pray for the person,
and imperative exorcism on the solemn right of exorcism, the right.
We see this in sixteen fourteen was the first form
that was written. The Right says in its rules that

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if you are not a validly ordained priest whose bishop
gave them permission to read it, you have no business
even reading it. Now. That is what the Rules of
the Right says. I didn't write it, so people get
angry when I say that, Well, that's too bad. The
Rules of the Right says, you have no business reading

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the Solemn Right of Exorcism because is incredibly serious and
it is dangerous to think that, well, I can just
pick it up and start reading it and performing an
exorcism on someone and you don't even know where what
stage of possession that they're in. So Annalise Mickel is
known as the exorcism of Emily Rose. All right, let's

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get into the It was a base on a true story, okay.
When she began to have strange symptoms in nineteen sixty eight,
when she was still seventeen years old, still in high school,
Annalise began experiencing. She began to suffer from convulsions, and

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court findings have her experiencing her first epileptic attack in
nineteen sixty nine, and it was then that a neurologist
at the psychiatric clinic, Wurzberg, diagnosed her with grandma epilepsy,
and soon Annalise started experiencing devilish hallucinations while praying. She
also began to hear voices which told her that she

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was damned for eternity, and the court determined that by
nineteen seventy three, Annalise was suffering from depression and considering
unliving herself. In nineteen seventy five, she was convinced that
she was possessed, and her parents gave up on the
doctors from the psychiatric clinic and they chose to rely

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solely on the exorcisms for healing, and Annalise's symptoms have
since been compared with those of many people describe as schizophrenia,
and they may have tried to respond to that treatment.
The first unofficial diagnosis of her possession was made by
an older woman who accompanied Annalise on a pilgrimage. Annalise

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and her family were very, very devoted Catholics, and she
noticed that Annalise avoided walking past a particular image of
Christ and even a chapel, and that she refused to
drink water from the holy Spring. The woman also claimed
that Annalise began to smell, as she described, hellishly bad.

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This is very common, especially as a form of oppression
to all of a sudden, the person has a deep
love for God and now they have a complete aversion
to God, and then even the smell, the putrid smell,
to break down the person's will. So an exorcist from

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a nearby town examined Annale's and concluded that she was
demonically possessed. There were two exorcisms and they were failed attempts,
and the right of exorcism was finally granted by the bishop.
So was when you watch the movie the exorism Emily
Rose was Tom Wilkinson's character a father more based on

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a real person. Well, actually it was more of a
combination of two real people, and that's father Arnold Wren's
and Pastor ernst Alt, and both men were assigned by
Bishop Wurzburg to Joseph Stengel to carry out the solemn
right of exorcism, and the foundation for this ritual, of

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course with that at the time and was still valid
in the seventeenth century canon law, and father Arnold Rentz
had been a former missionary in China and pastor ernst Alt,
he was a pastor in nearby community. Together they carried
out sixty seven rites of exorcism over a period of
ten months, one or two exorcism sessions held each week.

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Some sessions lasted up to four hours. According to The
Washington Post. As Annalise Anale's exism Emily Rose, she began,
she grew more convinced that she was possessed, and she
began to see the faces of demons, and even she

(42:43):
began to see the faces of demons on people around her.
She described them as ghastly images. Now she described which
I don't believe that this is true, but she described
that she had been possessed by several demons, one Lucifer,

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other judas Is Scariot. The other one was Nero Cain,
a particular World War two Germany leader, and a Fleischmann.
Fleischmann was a disgraced Frankest priest from the sixth and

(43:26):
sixteenth century. She also mentioned other several individuals. I think
this was obviously the demons, not wanting to give up
the real identity. Now, Anne Lise's mom, Anna did not
like the film Exorcism of Emily Rose, she did not
support it, so she says, I don't want to see

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the film and I don't know anything about it. Annalisa's father,
Joseph died six years prior to the film's release. As
far as Annalise's passing, Annalise's parents and the Exorcist were
found guilty of negligence and rightfully so. In the two
thousand and five film The Exorses of Emily Rose, only

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one of the characters, father Richard Moore, that was Tom Wilkinson,
was found guilty of negligent homicide surrounding the death of
Emily Rose annals and in the real life case of
Anneale Mackel, which took place in nineteen seventy eight, there
were four defendants, not just one, and they were father
Arnold Rentz, pastor ernst Alt, and Annalise mckel's parents Joseph

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and Ano all by Way. All four were found guilty
of negligent homicide and they were sentenced to six months
in prison, suspended with three years probation. Now a lot
of people say Annalyse's case was a forgery from the
nineteen seventy three the film The Exorcists, so that was

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released in Germany in nineteen seventy four, two years prior
to the audio tapings of Exorcism, which we hear Analise recording.
Even though her voice is quite chilling, it bears a
striking resemblance of the growling and barking and inhuman voice
of Linda Blair's voice that she did in the film,
and that some people thought, well, you know, that was fake.

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Upon its release in Germany, the movie created a sort
of paranormal hysteria that sweeped the nation. But here's the
problem with that argument. So people say that Annalise did
this because it was all just a fake, It was
all lie and you know now. The movie, however, does
not provide an explanation for the years prior to nineteen

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seventy four which Annalise was experiencing numerous other afflictions that
she and those around to her close to her attributed
to demonic possession. So her behavior was well before the
movie was even released. So the argument that Analise stole

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that to get attention, I disagree completely. Analise carried out
a number of highly disturbing actions. So and I will
tell you now this is disturbing. Some of the things
that she did under the stage of possession, she licked
her own urine off the floor. She ate flies, spiders, coal,

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She did bite off the head of several creatures. In
one instance, she crawled under a table and barked like
a dog for two days, and she could be heard
screaming through the walls, you know, for hours. She would
rip off her clothes and urinating on the floor became

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a regular occurrence. The exorcisms took a significant toll on
Analis's body. Now, Annalise endured sixty seven and rights of
exorcism over a period of ten months, and over time,
the actual ligaments of her knees they ruptured due to

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the six hundred genuflections that she performed obsessively during each
exorcism session. And a genuflection is an act of reverence
consisting of you know, falling up to ones or both
knees both thes is called a double genuflection. However, what
was testified in the court, because I have the even

(47:35):
that I have court files and everything that thankfully I
was able to get my hands on from my mentor
her family, and the exorcists would try to hold her down,
and because what would happen is when they were praying
and she was under the stage of possession. She would
be lifted up by what they is some unknown forces

(47:56):
what they described it, and then slammed on her hardwood floor,
and it would happened repeatedly, and this massive thud would
happen over and we're talking about too clergy and her
family pushing her down, and they could not push her
down because as soon as they pushed her down, she
would raise up and slam and sometimes it would just happen,

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I mean repeatedly, and so that in the movie actually
did occur and it ruptured her cartilage in her knees.
And in nineteen seventy six, during her last rite of
exorcism before her passing, she was two weak and emaciated
to perform the genuflections on her own, and so Annalie's

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parents even stood and try to help her even with
these genuflections she wanted to do so. Was there a
doctor present during the exorcisms, Well no, so around Easter
time of the year that she passed away, Analise began
to refuse use food and drink, and her convulsions returned

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with even a greater ferocity. No doctors were called that
was unacceptable, unacceptable, and during the trials, specialists claimed that
if the four accused, if they would have begun to
force feed Annalise a week before her passing, then she
would be alive. They immediately should have stopped. There's no

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reason for them to have continued. Those clergies. Should not
have continued, knowing that she was so emaciated that she
could no longer fight. Her body was in an extreme
danger territory, and we'll get to that in a moment.
One of Annalise's sisters explained to the court in nineteen

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seventy eight that Analise did not want to go to
a mental hospital because, you know, she would be drugged
and then forced to eat, because actually, when she had
her first epilet attack, they didn't really understand epilepsy at
that time, and they placed her in a mental health
hospital thinking that she was to you know, get the

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help because they thought it was psychological. And that's when
she described her first ghastly experience of a demonic entity.
So she forced herself to fast, not eat because she
believed that it would rid her of Satan's influence. And

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at the time of her death, Annalise mckel weighed sixty
eight pounds sixty eight and prior to her passing, she
had spoke of dying to Atone for the sins of
the wayward youth and the modern Church. Now technically now

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she's buried in Germany, and according to the autopsy that
was performed on July first, nineteen seventy six, Annalise succumbed
to the effects of severe dehydration and malnourishment. That's unacceptable, unacceptable,
and at the time of her passing she was also

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suffering from pneumonia and a high fever. Her last words
that she spoke on the week on the in the
verge of death, very weak and about to pass she
spoke her last known words and she told her exorcist
beg for absolution. And then she told her mom Anna,

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she said, Mother, I'm afraid, so Annalise. A little background
Annalise and her three sisters, they were raised in a
very strict Catholic family. Her family, her father, Joseph, had
considered training as a priest. Three of her aunts were nuns,
and four years before Annalise was even born, her mother
gave birth to an illegitimate daughter, Martha. Now that's important

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because you have to understand their perspective, okay, because it's
a different culture at this time. As a result of
the illegitimate daughter, her mom suffered great shame in that
area and was forced to wear a black veil on
her wedding day. Again, it's a different culture. And then
when Annalise was a child, her mother encouraged Annalise to

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atone for the sins of illegitimacy through fervent devotion. This
is where I think the invitation began for the demonic.
And when Annelise's sister Martha passed at the age of
eight during an operation to remove a kidney tumor, this

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likely only increased Annalise's desire to do penance for her mom,
and as she grew older, Annali's continued to suffer for
the sins of others. So when she was a teenager,
Annelie slept on bare stone floor to atone for the
sins of what she would describe as wayward priest and

(53:15):
people who are addicted to illegal substance. And in college
at West Germany's University of Wurzburg, she put pictures of
saints on her dorm room walls, kept the holy water
font near the near the door, which was normal. Matter
of fact, I have a holy water font right, Well,
you guys can't see it over here. And she regularly

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prayed the Rosary and had stated earlier, even close to
her passing, she spoke of dying to a tone for
the sins of wayward youth. So the question is is
it possible that the priests who performed the exorcisms provided
Anna Lise with the contents of her psychotic behavior. Well,

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there's a term called doctrine induction, and it theorizes that
it was the exorcist who provided Analys with the basis
of her demonic behavior. Some experts believe it's possible psychiatrists
who testified during the trial spoke about that, which, in

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relation to Analys, explains that she accepted her behavior as
a form of demonic possession, mainly because the exorcists introduced
much of the idea to her and reinforce it with
each exorcism. And in nineteen eighty four German bishops and
theologians petitioned Rome to change the exorcism right and they

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concluded that speaking directly or imperatively to the devil, that is,
I command the unclean spirit only confirms to the patient
that they are, without a doubt possessed. And that's true.
This is why you've got to be very careful in
determining whether or not a person is dealing with psychosis, faking,

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or is truly possessed, because the moment you begin to
pray the right, you know, and I'm not gonna go,
but you got to be very careful because you could
be feeding into that psychosis. And that's why you have
to make sure the psychological evaluation is performed prior to
performing an exorcism. Now it is true. A lot of

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people have asked, yeah, yeah, you can induce psychosis. Yeah.
Some people have asked, was her body exhumed after her passing?
It was? It can be starlet, Yeah, especially if the
person is in a psychotic if they're experiencing a psychotic

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or manic episode, and you then begin to pray, and
I'm not gonna say it because you know, obviously you've
got to be careful about who's watching. So in the
prayer in the right, there are words that you say
that would clearly indicate the person that you believe that

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person is possessed. Okay, so you have to be very
careful with the verbiage and that you only do this
when you are absolutely one hundred percent convinced that there
is possession. But actually, on February twenty fifth, nineteen seventy eight,
almost two years after her passing, the deceased body of
annals Michel was dug up and moved to a new

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oak coffin lined you know, with ten. Her parents desire
to move her from the cheap coffin in which he
was buried was allegedly used as an excuse to exume
her body instead. They were acting on a message that
they received from a carmelite nun in Bavaria, and the

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nun had told the parents that she had a vision
that their daughter's body was still intact and if that
was the case, and they, you know, could petition Rome
for canonization. Well, official reports state that the body showed
consistent interiation, so she was not intact. And all right,

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there's two movies. Is another movie called Requiem that's also
based on her life. Now let's go into Roland Do.
Roland dou is the story of the exorcists. It's based
on a true story. And well, thank you very much,
thank you for the gift. Thinking. And again, if I

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don't thank you's because I have two computers and sometimes
I don't see it. Most people have seen or read
The Exorcists, and for many people it's still very, very scary. Well,
here's the background of this for those of you who
don't know. The nineteen forty nine exorcism of thirteen year
old Ronald I'm not gonna give his last name out

(57:57):
of respect wasn't front page news in the small town
of Cottage City, Maryland. A few articles were written about
the incident, but most residents refuse to speak about what happened,
so the possess was given the pseudonym Roland Doe to
protect his identity. And the real life exorcism of Roland

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Doe was enough to inspire one of the most terrifying
movies of all time. So what really happened in nineteen
forty nine, Well, Exorcist author William Peter Bladdie actually got
the idea from the movie on a newspaper clipping he
was in. He was a college student at Georgetown University,

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and he saw a newspaper article that caught his attention.
In nineteen forty nine, the Washington Post headline read priest Freeze.
Mount Rainier boy reported held in devil's grip and the
idea of an exorcism stuck in his mind after reading
the article. And though you know, he didn't start writing
the novel until nineteen sixty nine, The Exorcist and used

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some elements of from Roland. From Roland's case, he obviously
he embellished many others to make it more frightening and
more scary. Prior to the release of The Exorcists exiorusism rituals,
they were rarely performed. They were performed, but it was
done in quiet. And after the film and the novel

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obviously gained widespread notoriety in the seventies, the right was
brought to the attention of the general public, and the
last decade the number of certified axiousests living in the
United States has doubled. Now here's the real story. Roland,
his life has entreat people for decades. But we'll thank you.

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The Susi Hue thank you. So this is what happened.
Although the house was located in Cottage City, Maryland, news
articles listed their hometown as the nearby Mount Rainier, Maryland,
and some publications reported that the possessed age was fourteen.
He was actually thirteen at the time of his exorcism. Again,

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these people may think of these are minor details, but
you know, it had a very strong effect on him.
And because teenagers in Mount Verneer would gather at an
empty lot that had been known as a site where
the family lived, scaring each other and telling scory you know,
stories of demons and ghosts. But Roland and his aunt Tilly,

(01:00:24):
they were very close. He was an only child. He
relied on the adults close you know, to his family
and friendship for friendship, and since he wasn't very good
at making friends his own age. And Roland's aunt Tilly,
she was She was very spiritual. She was a spiritualist,
and she loved spiritualism and seances and wigi boards and

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she was actually the person who first introduced him to
the wigi board and he loved her dearly. So she
passed away at the age of fifty four, shortly before
Roland became possessed, and the family believed that Tilly was
at least in part responsible for the possession of Roland because,

(01:01:09):
according to the diary of one of the priests involved
in the exorcism, which I have a copy of the diary.
When the spirit was asked to knock three times if
they were Aunt Tilly, three knocks were heard, thank you,
and the family ask again for four knocks as confirmation
and received four knocks in response. Now I am There

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is a documentary called to Possessed and this is on
his life and I'm in that documentary with the Booth
Brothers on Sci Fi. And so if you've not, you know,
watched that, you might want to take a look at it.
But don't forget before we get into it. Thank you.
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to get distracted, so let me get this finished and
then we can get in your questions a little later.
Here's what happened. So the Roland Does family claimed that

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all sorts of terrifying events occurred in their home, most
notably the movement of inanimate objects. Family members witness furniture
moving on its own, they saw objects levitates fly across
the room, bed frames shake violently, and Roland was even

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removed from school because his desk would begin to shake
uncontrollably during class, and some of the objects some of
the movie. The objects were every religious nature. Spiritual pictures
on the walls would rattle and then be thrown. Bottles
of holy water would routinely fall off to the ground

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and then break. Now after his family could endure no more,
they then called in a priest to help the situation,
and Roland supposedly screamed, oh, Priest of Christ, you know
that I am the devil. Now most people believe that

(01:04:37):
this was truly the devil speaking through Roland, because he
actually spoke this in Latin, and he had never been
taught Latin. It is possibly he picked up some basic
Latin from attending church, so that's fair. But there were
two attempts over a period of months to exercise the

(01:04:57):
demon inside Rolando. For the first attempt, Roland was brought
to a pastor's house. He was tied to a bed. Now,
during the rite, Roland reached under the mattress. He actually
tore a spring from it. Now we're talking about the

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This is again nineteen forties. Here he tore the spring
from it, ripped it completely apart, and he slashed the
priest arm. Do you know how much force that would
take to rip one of the springs apart in a
mattress in the old old timy mattresses. The cut was

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so bad that it needed stitches, and so the exorcism
was put on hold and Roland was temporarily he was
sent home to his family, and many people believe that
this episode truly happened, and I do believe it as well.
Now throughout his possession, Roland repeatedly noticed mysterious scratches on
his body, and according to one source, that's I think,

(01:06:07):
well quite honestly well documented. Words appeared across his chest
and it read Saint Louis. So, believing it was a sign,
his family packed up and boarded a train for Saint Louis, Missouri,
and once there, a reverend named William Bowdern performed the

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right of exorcism on Rolan between twenty and thirty times
over a two month period. Now, during an exorcism, more
scratches actually appeared on Roland's body, this time resembling the
words hell and evil. So as they were using what's
called the sacramentos of the church holy water, they would

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clearly see hell just coming through like someone just ripped cutting.
Things turned very violent Roland fiercely resisting, talking in a
strange voice, the diary says, even breaking the nose of
one of Reverend Bower's assistants. But despite the struggle, the

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exorism was successful. The demon was eventually vanquished. In the
fall of nineteen forty nine, rumors surface at Georgetown University
that a diary existed detailing the events of Roland Doe's exorcism.
The Booth brothers, by the way, they have the diary,

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and I have a copy of the diary. It is now.
An anonymous psychiatrist who was present for the exorcism had
written a sixteen page account of what he had witnessed,
complete with descriptions of the phenomena the Doe family had
experienced and instructions for future exorcisms. The psychiatrists handed the

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diary over to the Georgetown faculty member, Father Eugene Gallagher,
who shared it with the dean and the media. When
Father Gallagher tried to get the diary back from the Dean,
he was told that only nine pages remained. Well, there's
a lot of thoughts on this. There's a writer, his
name as Mark. I'm not even give his last name,

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and he says he says two psychiatrists rob those suffered
from mental illness to priests, as was a case of
demonic possession. To writers in film video producers, this was
a great story to exploit for profit. Those involved saw
what they were trained to see. Each party involved in
this case had at least partially self serving agenda that

(01:08:39):
may have clouded their view of the truth. And I
disagree with that, because the priest had no agenda other
than to release this boy from the demonic possession. They
weren't selling a book, they weren't selling a movie. These
were priests with no other ulterior motives other than to
help this child. Church officials, you know, state that sometimes

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when a person thinks that they are family members are
possessed by the devil, the true cause of the disturbance
is perhaps, maybe considerably more mundane. They many people, including myself,
will say, well, have you spoke to a psychiatrist first?
In Rolando's case, it is entirely possible that some people
say that he was just a lonely kid crying out

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for attention because his beloved aunt passed away. That's ridiculous.
And I'll tell you why. Mental illness does not cause
you to levitate. Mental illness will not cause you to
know languages that you've never known before. Mental illness will
not cause carvings appear on your chest, So those are

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not a form of levitation. Now, certainly not every exorcism
is considered noteworthy, but some have made a lasting mark
on history and obviously placing Rolandeaux among esteemed company. There
have been other famous accounts of exorcism taking place both
in the United States around the world. One notable example

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is one of the nineteen twelve a case of a
fourteen year old Iowa girl named Anna Ecklund, whose father
and aunt were supposedly cursing her. And then another such
case as is that of Arnie Cheyenne Johnson, who unalived
his landlord in nineteen eighty one, and he tried, unsuccessfully,

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by the way, to blame the crime on a lifetime
of demonic possession. And as a matter of fact, the
case is actually well known. It's called the Devil made
Me do it. So for those of you who don't
know about this, it is there. Believe it or not,
it is there, and that's for you guys, So you
might want to take a look at it. But no,
they said no, no, we don't necessarily believe that's actually true. Annelise.

(01:11:00):
I think the whole situation with Annalise and what she suffered,
I I don't believe at all that that Annalise was faking,
and I certainly don't believe that Rolandeau was faking because
there's too many people that that that saw and that

(01:11:21):
experience this. So remember, because Robbie was an only child
many people, he depended on his on his family, and
he loved his aunt. I believe that because of his
aunt introducing him to the Luigi board, there was there
was an issue. Now there is also another case, the

(01:11:44):
case of Michael Taylor, and this is Michael Taylor is
one of is a male. He's obviously from Britain, and
he's been involved in a few instances in a few
which could lead to conclusion that he had problems with
demonic possession. He was actually a member of the local
Christian fellowship group and he started to behave strange against

(01:12:06):
the leaders of the group and he attacked one person
verbally and later admitted that he fell he felt evil
within him and after his behavior grew worse and worse,
the local vicar decided to try to cure him, and
with the help of other ministers, and they tried a
few Christian methods of exorcism on him, but that didn't

(01:12:27):
bring any success. And the whole session, which lasted for
a few hours, exhausted the priest, so they allowed him
to return home. And Michael entered his home, he unalived
his wife and their dog, and he was found naked
and covered completely in blood. He claims he has no
memory of it. I think in that case, I think

(01:12:50):
that was not possession. I think that was probably something else.
Obviously there was something else going on. I'll think you
there cat. Based on what I know of that story,
I think there was probably some illegal substances. Let's just
say that he participated in Emily Rose and we're going

(01:13:12):
to talk about this in just a second, because I'm
going to play a sound bite here in a moment,
and it's pretty intense. I'm just giving you heads up now,
just quick little sound bites, well now sound bites, but
little notes. Remember, she passed away in nineteen seventy six.

(01:13:35):
She was born in nineteen fifty two. She was only
twenty three years old when she passed away, and she
was again sixty eight pounds when she passed away. And
starvation and dehydration is what she was, what her is
on her death certificate. Sixty seven extracisms sixty seven were

(01:13:57):
performed and they won the two each week and many
thank you. And some of these extorusism lasted up to
four hours, and this was in a ten month period.
Exorcisms are exhausting, unbelievably exhausting. There have been times where
I performed the exorcisms and I could ring, I could,

(01:14:19):
you know, took the clergy shirt off and I could
ring it out in the sweat, which is poor because
it can be that exhausting. Yeah, sixty seven. So now
we're gonna play a sound bite, and I'm gonna give
you heads up right now. The sound bite is not comfortable.
You should be aware that it can be triggering for some.

(01:14:44):
I'm just gonna be honest with you. I'm not gonna
you know, and I'm gonna play a sound bite in
which I worked a case in which he suffered from possession,
and I'll talk about it briefly and then I'll answer
your questions. This was this sound bite is analyse and

(01:15:12):
so what I'll do is I'll just give a i'll
give a thumbs up when I when it's finished, and
that way, if you want to, I'll tell you when
to turn your volume down if you don't want to
hear it, because it is pretty intense. But I'm going
to play three sound bites for you. The first sound
bite is a short sound bite of analyse or the

(01:15:33):
demonic talking, and then the next is the one that's
a little bit more intense. It's about fifty seconds long.
And then the next one we're gonna it's about forty
seconds and it's a case that I worked where it
was a possession case, so I'm going to we'll do
it that way. So that's all we're gonna do this,

(01:15:55):
and I'll give you a queue. All right, thank you,
keV so mh. This one, this is the first sound bite,
is Annelie Machel when she was talking about the demons
that were in her and remember this was in Germany.
So I'm going to play this now in three two one. Okay,

(01:16:31):
I'm gonna play this again, and you can hear the
multiple pitches, and that's one normal characteristic of of a
person who's possessed, because you'll hear the multiple pitches at once.
So you'll hear a deeper voice and a higher voice
all the same time. There's no doubt in my mind

(01:17:03):
that that was possession. There's no doubt based on just
that alone. You cannot, under any circumstances, can you fake that.
There's no way. No. She was speaking in Germany. In Germany.
This next one is a little bit more intense. Now.

(01:17:25):
I have had the debates on this with people. I
actually sent this to a friend of mine who is
He does sound on you know, televisions and movies, and
you know, he has like a multi million dollar setup.
And I asked him, I said, I want you to
tell me how many pitches you hear here? How many pitches? Pitches?
Is like if you have a choir, so you have
a bass and an alto soprano, they're all singing one note.

(01:17:48):
And I said, I want to know how I want
to know how many pitches you know, for a fact
you can pick up on. And again, this guy does
this for a living. And in this next pick, I
want you to listen to it, thank you, and then
I'm going to tell you how many pitches he found. Okay,
so we're to play this in three two one.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
I'm just guys. Silence of Oz found.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Guys okay. So I asked my friend how many pitches? Uh,
thirty two? He found thirty two. Some people argue thirty seven.
It doesn't matter. I mean, when you're at thirty two,

(01:19:07):
when you're past three, that's you know, Tibetan monks who
trained their voices for vocalizations all their lives can do three.
There's one Tibetan monk who's he's considered one of the elders,
and he's been doing this all his life. Three is
the highest he gets. Thirty two, thirty two pitches this

(01:19:36):
next one. So I worked this case, this case is mine,
And what he would do is he would go into
transient possession and he would wake up and the eyes
would go in the back of his head and he
would just kind of rock back and forth, back and forth.
He'd go over to his wife. I don't know if
someone heard me talk about this, but it's very similar

(01:19:58):
when I watched the paranorm Black I watched that, It's like,
wait a minute, that's I've talked about that in my case.
But nonetheless, he would rock back and forth, rocking back,
and his wife was terrified because she kept asking you.
She kept trying to get it, and he would not.
He would not come out of this state, and so
she contacted me. I said, I'll tell you what, let's

(01:20:19):
record him. So when he does this, I want you
to record it. And she said okay, and so she did.
Now he suffered was from transient possession. So many times.
I have a gosh, I have a massive soundbites on this,
but you will hear a complete different personality come through,
a completely totally different demonic. But he required an exorcism,

(01:20:44):
and so she was obviously terrified. So let me play
this sound bite for you and then we'll be done
with the sound bites. This is my case now that
I worked, he says, I sing you okay, So for

(01:21:34):
those of you who have turned your sound down, we're
going to give you a thumbs up. All right. So,
because I know some people just it affects some people
and it makes them physically sick, I get it. I
got it, So I am turn that out. I was

(01:21:55):
able to ask my friend to give me an idea
of how many UH pitches he heard in this one.
There's twenty one. So yeah, an access several extras doesn't
required there. That was an exhausting case. That was an
exhausting case because it you know, not only there was
such activity in their home, but there was so much

(01:22:19):
darkness in that home. I mean, it was just heavy,
you know, just heavy. So okay, so we'll get into
some of your questions. Is if you guys have questions,
I'm going to try to put this. We're gonna turn
the step subchat off on TikTok. I'm telling you guys now,
if you guys can't be kind and be considerate, I'll

(01:22:40):
turn subchat right back on. We had to turn subchat
on because people were being so rude and disrespectful, and
I'll put it right back on. So just be kind.
That's all we ask. Is that what it? Yeah, that's
a demon. Very sounds very much like what analyse that
you heard Analyse and that individual. And yeah, we're free

(01:23:01):
to the point. We're not gonna put I'm not gonna
put it patrolling. I'm not gonna put up with it.
I'm just giving your heads up now. So yeah, does
that No, No, it doesn't, It's fine, You'll be fine.
Transient it's a good question. So transient possession is when

(01:23:22):
the demon will enter the body and leave at will,
so the person remains under the stage of oppression and
obsession that never leaves. So the demonic still has attached
itself to the person and is still causing the body,
the intellect and will to be at a weakened state,
so the body the demon can enter the body and leave.
As a matter of fact, Annalise mckel, she was not

(01:23:44):
under perfect possession. She was in transient possession. So there
there were times in the early stages of her possession
that she played piano and she would be up playing
the piano and she would be her normal self, but
she was still at a very weakened state. And so
that's what transient possession means. Yep. I was, uh, yep,

(01:24:07):
I was on the Ghost Adventures the Bobby Mackie's episodes. Yep. Yeah,
well we'll do a prayer afterwards. I have heard of
that Don, that Don person, so yeah, well, oh yeah,
same benedict sir, I'm a Benedictine. I am actually a
lot of people. I'm a benedicted monk with the old

(01:24:28):
Catholic Benedictines of Immaculate Mary. And I always wear this
because if I were my habit, then I that would
be the primary question, be wirried what are you wearing?
What are you wearing them? So it's just easier to
do this. So okay, So some people are asking as
far as the demonic possession there, they're usually is always

(01:24:51):
a So, guys, I'm answering a question, so I can't
ask another answer another question if I'm answering one question.
So usually there's a form of not always, but most
of the time. So in other words, you go to
a location that you shouldn't go to, and I'm gonna
make this very clear for everybody. When you go to
a location, let's say you paranormal investigate and there's known

(01:25:13):
to have a demonic activity present, when you're going, come on, demon,
I dare you to do something? Friends, you're not provoking.
That's not provocation, that's invitation. Two different things, and people
need to understand that I've been saying this for twenty
five years. You're inviting, not provoking. Provoking is when you
begin saying prayers, then you're going to get a response.

(01:25:36):
But you beating your chest to saying I dare you
to do something, You're not provoking. You're just inviting, and
that's what it needs. So you go to a location
you shouldn't go to, or you play with ouija boards.
I don't care what anyone tells you. Wija boards are bad.
There's nothing good about the Ouiji boards. It is a
form of possession. It makes no sense to not let
anyone mislead you. And here's why. It's a form of possession,

(01:25:57):
meaning that when you use a Wiji board and you
place your hand on the planchet, you're giving that spirit
whom you don't even know. You're giving that spirit the
ability to move your hand. That's a form of possession.
That's all it needs. So most of the time there's
an invitation. Now not in all cases. It could also

(01:26:18):
be you move into a location where there was an infestation.
So perhaps maybe someone lived into that home prior to
you moving in, and maybe they did some things that
they shouldn't have done, and now you have demonic infestation.
So it could have been a pre existing haunting. What's
moving your hand? Yeah, that's right, and it does so,

(01:26:38):
and that's that's why it's dangerous. Well, remember you can't
understand ninety nine percent of the time in every single
except for one. There was one case. It was an
incubus case, and I talked about her. She's a sixty
eight year old woman, but that was done by curse

(01:26:58):
whatever her family members placed a her because she wanted
her property. That's the only time that I had a
case where it was not done through invitation. Every single
case that I had in the thirty three exorcisms, only
one was not because of invitation, And so it was invitation.
Incubis is when it attacks you on a sexual nature.

(01:27:21):
They are real. Yeah, waffles, they are real. And because
that's making a pack with the devil, and it's it's
a serious stuff. Legion. It's been a many many years
since I've seen Legion, So yeah, okay, so a lot
of people ask about knocking. That doesn't necessarily mean it's demonic.

(01:27:43):
You know, when I told Zach many years ago on
ghosts Aventures and I say, you know, you have the scratches.
That's a form of a mockery of the Trinity, then
everybody was going all over saying, oh my gosh, I
have markings of three open marketing. It was everywhere. It
was like, no, that's not guys. He all also had
other issues that were occurring. So all these issues that

(01:28:04):
he had plus the scratches. It was a clear indicator
to me while you're dealing with demonic because there were
other issues as well. So let me tell you some
As far as the rosary, any true exorcists will tell
you who's validly trained, any excious, if they're validly trained,
they will tell you this the moment, and this is

(01:28:30):
the rosary that I used during an exorcism. The moment
you begin to hold up the rosary is the moment
you began to have the most violent reaction from a demonic.
Any exorcist who is validly trained will tell you that,
and that is one hundred percent true. This is considered
a sacramental of the church. It is blessed like holy water, oil, incense, rosaries.

(01:28:52):
These are sacramentals of the Church. We use these to
break the intellect and will of the demonic through the
right This gets the most violent reaction. And this is,
in fact, this is the rosary that I use when
I perform in exoricism. Let's say benedictin rosary, Oh black widow,

(01:29:19):
you care because you're here. If you didn't care, you
wouldn't be watching anyway. That's a good question as far
as where do they go. Most of the time, demons
will leave prior to their intellect and will being eradicated.

(01:29:40):
Now there's a theory that, you know, we try to
force them to bend the need. They will never do that,
and they usually leave prior to that, prior to that occurring.
So so okay, no, they don't descend to help. No,

(01:30:04):
they actually leave. The best way to protect yourself and
not do anything that's going to put yourself in a
situation where you're going to have demonic activity. There's a
lot of people who make a mockery of this. Okay,
you'll be calling me one day. You know. I'm not
here to convince anybody of anything. I'm not here to
convince you the demons exist. I'm here to help the

(01:30:25):
families who know they do. I say this a million times.
I don't get paid for this ministry. I don't get
paid being a bishop. I do this ministry one hundred
percent free. I don't even charge for an exorcism, never have.
I don't charge to go to people's home and bless
their homes. They never have in twenty five years. I
pay for it out of my own pocket. I'm not
here to sell you a book I'm not here to
sell you anything. I'm here to tell you what I've experienced.

(01:30:46):
So there's no hidden agenda here. I'm telling you what
I've seen, and if you don't believe it, well that's
on you. But you know, I think the internet can certainly. Yeah,
I mean there's a lot of people on even on
I've seen on TikTok they do some blasphemous things. So anyway,

(01:31:13):
we'll think you they're mindful. Boss, So I'm trying to
it goes too fast. Oh, it's a good question. Why
is it important to know a demon's name. Well, there's
two reasons. Number one, you can have control and also,
but more importantly, when in the beginning, they will never
get they will never divulge the name. They always will
most of the time they'll say Lucifer or other names

(01:31:35):
that try to intimidate you, But most of the time
they will never divulge that information because once you know
they give you their name an hour of departure, then
you know that they are at a weakened state, that
their intellect and will. Okay, So when an exorcist, the
person who has possessed their intellect and will is eradicated,
they have no intellect and will. They are at a

(01:31:57):
very vulnerable state. They can't fight. So the intellect and
the will of the exorcist and the intellect and will
of the demonic are at battle. One will win, one
will lose. And when you command and you're using the
sacramentals of the church again, holywater, inceicense, and oil rosaries.
When you're using these these elements so so for the

(01:32:19):
sole purpose of eradicating the intellect and will the demon
And once it finally surrenders its name, you know the
our departure is imminent because the intellect and will is
at a weakened state for the demonic, and usually very
soon after it departs. Uh, an exorcism on video? All right, Nicole,
let me just tell you something, and I'm going to

(01:32:41):
be very blunt. No exorcist, under any circumstance, under any
any circumstance, should ever ever perform an exorcism on another
being on camera and then air it on social media.
That is an abomination. People have asked me many times, well,
why haven't we seen your videos? You never will. They

(01:33:03):
are locked up. They are the property of the church,
and they will never be shown. I've been offered television shows.
I've been offered substantially financially. I mean, as a matter
of fact, I was at a paranormal conference in Illinois
and I was doing a presentation on demonology and a network,
a known network, actually contacted me and I put them

(01:33:25):
on speakerphone and actually, I mean it was the number.
It was the actually network and they did a Bishop
Long and no one. I didn't tell them that was,
you know, doing a presentation, and I had the microphone
right next to them. They were like, yeah, is this
Bishop Long. Yes, it is HI. This is SO and
so network. We have a show that's green lit. Green
Lit means it's been, it's been, Okay, it's been, we're

(01:33:47):
ready to go, We're ready to start filming immediately. And
they said, it's the show is green lit and the
premises you're going to people's homes and you're performing in
exorcism on people on camera. I said, and they said,
we're guaranteeing you. You even executive producer rights, which is
finan financially. When you're a talent, there is so much

(01:34:07):
you get paid, uh, which is limited. But when you
are executive producer, now you're jumping the pay scale pretty high,
and so you got executive producer rights and you're guaranteed
X amount of episodes. I mean it was I mean
it was substantial income. I said, so let me tell you. So,
So let me just see, you're guaranteeing me one season

(01:34:29):
and you're also guaranteeing me a two executive producer season payment. Basically, absolutely, absolutely,
And all I have to do is perform access to
them on people on a camera. Absolutely, it's all you
got to do. We'll film everything. You don't need to
do anything. And then I tell that person and a
whole rood of people listen to this conversation. I say, look,
here's what I want you to do. I want you
to delete my phone number. And then I want you

(01:34:50):
to go to a church and I want you to
kneel down and I want you to beg for forgiveness
for what you've just done. And don't ever call me again.
And I hung up on them. Never should ever an exorcist,
film an exorcism, and an error on social media for
your entertainment. That is disgusting. This is not a movie.

(01:35:15):
This is a real life a person who's gone through extreme,
extreme trauma, not only the individual but also the family
who sat there and watched their family member deteriorate in
front of them. Annealice Michael consumed her own urine, and

(01:35:35):
we think that's entertainment that is sacrilegious. And so I
would never under any circumstances, and you will never see
any of my extorsis one camera. We do film them.
We have to because you know, when you're dealing with

(01:35:58):
a person could expire, so you need to make sure
that you're following the protocol. I don't know about this love,
but I've got I keep saying, I'll people could be
asking me about I've got to do some more research
on it. So spirits, that's for help. What do you
mean why do you do it? Do you see? I

(01:36:19):
do it because I'm cold. I knew I wanted to
be a priest when I was five years old. I
remember very clearly as a little little boy. I can
remember this is like it was yesterday. And I began
reading books on demonology when I was nine, and I
didn't know why. I just knew that I was I
had to learn about demonology, and my love and passion

(01:36:41):
for demonology anthology has only increased. So yeah, it's a calling. Well,
think you well. And that's the thing, and I think
that's why I try to tell people, is that there
is no ulterior motive for me being here. I've been
off for television shows substantial income, So I'm not selling

(01:37:04):
you anything. I'm not getting. I don't get, like I said,
I don't get even paid as being a bishop in
the Okathic Church, we received a stipend our salary, so
I'm not getting paid at all. So I say that
because there's no ulterior motive. I'm just here to tell
you what i've seen. You know, books I really love.

(01:37:28):
There is Jason McLoud. So here's what you need to do.
Go to Jason Mcloud's book. It's called Darksiege dot com.
Now he actually worked with the Warrens. He has he
worked the case, very really intense case, and he's a
brilliant writer. You'll love his books. I promise you you

(01:37:50):
will love them. It's called dark Siege. And if you
go there, make sure you pick up those books. And
also the am not the Amityville, uh, but the Conjuring.
If you really want to know what happened with the Conjuring,
then you need to pick up Andrea Parrin's books. House

(01:38:13):
of Darkness, House of Light. It is a trilogy. They're phenomenal.
I own them, and I'm telling you they're great. She
will tell you everything you need to. She live, she
lived in the house. She was there when all that
went down. So if you really, if you truly want
to know what happened in the conjuring, pick her books up.
You can go to It's Andrea Parrin p E R

(01:38:37):
R O N. Well, thank you very much. I think
as a matter of fact, she has a show here
on kg R a dB dot com. It's right after
mine at nine o'clock nine pm Eastern Standard time, and
she talks about her her life experience, and there you go.
I was I was friends with Lorraine. I knew Lorraine

(01:38:57):
very well. I did not know ed, but I did
know Lorraine an attachment even after past actions. Oh you
can understand. Demonic entities are very opportunists. They will wait,
they will wait for the opportune time to So if
you've given the invitation, let's say that you played with

(01:39:17):
the Wigia board when you were fifteen sixteen years old,
nothing has happened. Because people always say to me, I've
played with the Wigia board and nothing has ever happened,
and then I always tell them. Yet, just because it
hasn't happened to you doesn't mean that it won't. Because
demonic entities are opportunists. They will wait for the most
opportune time and then they will attack. You've got to

(01:39:39):
be careful about this. Hello there, Okay, because I like it,
do I never get scared? Actually, this is a I
don't consider this scared scary at all. And actually I
paid for the right to use it. The first sexorcism, Yes,

(01:40:02):
my first sextorism I was that was a little frightening.
I talked about that in the beginning. Yep. So I
contacted I contacted the owner of this it's called Temple
of Serenity and it's on YouTube and it's called Genesis
number two. And so I contacted him and I said, look,

(01:40:24):
you know, I absolutely love your music. Would you be
willing is it okay if I play this during you know,
the Sacred Division show that I do, He says, Yep.
I ask him how much would it cost? He gave
me a price was very reasonable, and so I'm allowed
to play this music. And because I love it, it's
yeah okay, yep, high hopes so here's here's the schedule.

(01:40:47):
Friday and Saturday is our paranormal shows. Friday night is
our secret division. I always do a lecture and then Saturday,
I have a lot of articles that's paranormal related that
I don't get to and we have that on Saturday.
Saturday is more of a chill It's still it's not
so much a lecture as it is, more of it

(01:41:08):
just a chill out talk about some of these articles.
Then on Sundays and Wednesdays, we have Bible study at
eight pm Eastern Standard Time, and then Monday through Friday
at ten pm Eastern Satay Time, we have night prayer.
So five days of the week it's devoted to Biblical
studies and night prayer. Only two days all of the

(01:41:29):
week we dedicate to the paranormal. That's it. I'm never
visited to the conjuring home. No, I've never been there.
I'll think, you, Nicholas, what can the possess be someone
other than the person who invited but a close family

(01:41:51):
member or friend. No, but it can attack them because
there has to be a form of invitation. But that
doesn't mean that they can't attack, and they will. So
let's say that you live in a home and you
go out and do something in a paranormal investigating and
it's known to have demonic infestation. And you say, come on,
dmon I dare you to do something? And now you
have an attachment and you take you go home, and

(01:42:12):
now you have demonic infestation. Everybody is affected by that.
It's not just the individual, it's everybody. Yeah, and then
mass all, yeah, thank you for my My mass is
on Sunday at six pm since Sandar time. No, no, Amanda, No,
I cannot.

Speaker 3 (01:42:33):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
People who are who don't believe in God are more prone.
Absolutely no, because just because you don't believe in God
doesn't mean that you have no value. And that's what
I think is a dangerous territory when people say, well,
you don't believe in God, so you don't have any value. Yeah, Well,
whether that person believes in God or not, God believes
in them, and that person is still created in God's image.

(01:42:54):
So out of your house and get them out of
my drink. Okay. So here's the deal. If you're having
issues and you're wanting my help, here's what you gotta do.
And this is a requirement. It really is non negotiable
only because I have so many social media platforms. I
can't keep up, because I have twenty one thousand messages

(01:43:17):
here on TikTok alone. So what you got to do
is you got to go to Bishop jameslonglong dot com.
Then click on the paranormal link. A member of the
Society of Saint Benedict will reach out to you and
they will begin the process. It's free and so therefore

(01:43:37):
that's our requirement, all right. So if someone passes away,
does it mean that they go to Does that mean
that they go to heaven or health? First of all,
the demon does not possess their soul. The demon possesses
the body completely, two different things. So and let me

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make this one. Let me say this. Listen to this
very clearly. Now I'm telling you right now, there's so
many people. There's armchair theologians. People will tell you that
Christians cannot be possessed. That is wrong, plain and simple.

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Roman Catholic exorcists will tell you the same thing. People
who tell you Christians can't be possessed, They are telling
you incorrectly. They are wrong, plain and simple. They're incorrect.
The exorcism that I have worked the majority of them
were Christians. And I tell you why people think just

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because you're a Christian that you're immune to demonic attack. Hello,
if you're a Christian, can you still have free will?
And you can still go to a location a paranormal
Let's say you want you still want to paranormal investigate,
and you go out and you say, is there anyone here?
Can you make a noise? That's the invitation do something.

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I dare you to do something to me. You've now
given the invitation. You're still a Christian, but you've made
a terrible choice because you've now given the demonic an
invitation to do something to you. To know you, to
know that it is there. So the idea that you're
a Christian and you can't be possessed it is incorrect.
You still have free will. And I'm telling you now everybody,

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everybody and Catholics are Christians. I don't understand this. Crathletes
are not Christian. Nonsense. What is a Christian? You accept
Jesus Christ, your Lord and Savior. I'm Catholic. I accept
Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior. Therefore the conclusion must
be I'm a Christian. So messaging artificial No, artificial intelligence.

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You got to be careful though with artificial I'm not
a fan of artificial intelligence. I think it can be
useful in some ways, but you got to be careful
with that. You got to be careful with that. Absolutely. Yeah,
is it truly if you go into a place a
paranorm and you invite demons can wait years for years. Absolutely,

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one hundred percent. And people always say, well, what happens
if you watch a scary movie? Can you be possessed?
Do you realize in how many people would be possessed?
I think people going to get sometimes to the extreme.
I mean Jaws technically is a scary movie. So if
you go watch Jaws, that means you're going to be possessed.

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I mean, I think people got to be relaxed a
little bit. However, if you're susceptible, if you're not strong
in your faith, you know you might want to avoid. Now,
one thing that I will never do is I will
never watch a scary movie that has incantations. Won't ever
do it. So if they are chanting demon names and
they're invoking demon names, I'm not watching that. No, I'm not.

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I don't participate that yep, can evil enter your home
as it filled with blessed religious objects one hundred percent
as a matter of fact, again, so let's use the example.
Let's just use a Wiji board you bring. You have
religious artifacts all over your home and you have a
Wija board, which again is don't mess with Wigi boards.

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Nothing good will come from them, no matter what anyone
tells you. The moment you give a spirit permission to
control your hands to move the planchet, that is a
form of possession, that is the imitation, then you have
demonic infestation. As a matter of fact. One sign of
demonic infestation is religious objects are desecrated. So religious objects

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will be thrown. A matter of fact, I had a
I don't have it with me now, but I had
a crucifix and one of the beams on the cross
caught fire from a tea light candle and the beam
was all the way up here and it was like
a torchlight that actually caught it on fire. So right, yeah,
that's right, Dot Campbell. It's not not not not smart.

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You gotta be gotta be smart about that. So hold
on one second, everybody, For those of you who are
listening to this on podcasts. We're gonna say good night
to you guys.