October 10, 2025 • 31 mins
On this Salcedo Storm Podcast:
Jennifer Galardi is a Senior Policy Analyst for Restoring American Wellness is The Heritage Foundation’s DeVos Center. Jennifer's work has appeared in several news and media outlets including the Epoch Times, The Federalist, The New York Sun, and Blaze Media.
Jennifer Galardi is a Senior Policy Analyst for Restoring American Wellness is The Heritage Foundation’s DeVos Center. Jennifer's work has appeared in several news and media outlets including the Epoch Times, The Federalist, The New York Sun, and Blaze Media.
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Senator Rand Paul gave an interview. Actually, I wasn't an interview.
I think he was actually speaking at a conference. He
was sitting in front of a whole bunch of people
at the Heritage Foundation, and well, this is Children's health
defense is who he was speaking in front of. And naturally,
with all the things going on with healthcare lately, and
with what kind of decisions have been made by past
(01:06):
regimes and Anthony Fauci and the World Health Organization, all
that kind of stuff, it's on everybody's mind. Here's what
Senator Paul had to say.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
My wife and I, Kelly, been married about thirty five
years now. And I travel to Washington every Monday and
then back home at the end of the week. And
I get home and I expect, you know, a hug,
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I knock on the door and she greets me, and
you know what, she asked me, how come Anthony Fauci's not.
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In jail yet.
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So I've been getting that greeting for the last couple
of years and she's still expecting me to have miracles to,
you know, put Anthony Fauci away. And it's not like
we haven't tried. I you know, sent two official letters
to the Department of Justice under Biden. I've resent those
under President Trump as well. But it has been made
more difficult, you know, since he was pardoned by the
auto pen who knew an auto that a machine could
(02:01):
pardon someone. But it has been made more difficult. But
it is something that the truth of the matter and
the truth about what went on is incredibly important because
whether or not he is judged by a criminal court,
he will be judged by history. And how he is
judged by history has to do with what happens to
all of us in the next pandemic. And I say,
(02:22):
never again, never again do we let them invade our churches,
our schools, our businesses. Never again.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
I'm with him, never again. We should not allow that
ever again. But you know, I'm also not with him
when he says whether it's by you know, a court
or by history, no, I want it to be a
court his eminence. Doctor Fauci needs to face a reckoning
for what he did to us. It's a must. I'm
(02:52):
going to have to call it a requirement. It's going
to have to be done. Back in twenty twenty two,
I've already played some excerpts from this interview that doctor
Robert Malone gave to Maha Films. And this is a
fantastic interview, folks. If you can find it on doctor
Malone's substack, I highly recommend it. It's an hour and
forty five minutes. It's an eye opener. And my doctor
(03:15):
Malone released this because he says, this is me before
I've been put through really the political ringer, which is
he believes has influenced his outlook, which he's probably right,
And what a great man he is to be able
to say, Look, I might be compromised now because of
all the political garbage it has been thrown my way,
(03:37):
or it may have destroyed my objectivity a little bit,
but this back in twenty twenty two is me at
my purest, you know, pure scientist, trying to figure out
what was going on with the so called medical establishment.
Here he is talking about how the medical establishment the
government tried to silence experts. Listen to this.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
If you ever in your life career seen this type
of censorship where qualified experts are speaking about their view
of things, giving expert opinion, if you will, based on
what's happening, and it's completely shut down, and people are
applauding the fact that the censorship is happening because they
(04:19):
don't want to scare people or spook people away from
getting the vaccine. That that's the only thing, that's the
only thing that matters, is that the vaccine, that people
get this vaccine.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
And that we get universal vaccination. Okay, no, it's unprecedented.
I've never seen it. My peers have never seen it.
There is in the Federal Register, honest to God, in
nineteen eighty four, there is a section that speaking about
polio vaccines, in which the federal government asserts that any information,
(04:49):
whether true or not, which would cause vaccine hesitancy is
to be suppressed. So this is out there, it's documented,
is nineteen eighty four of in US policy for a
long time. And I assert that what we've got is
twentieth century thinking about communication and information management coupled to
(05:11):
amazingly powerful twenty first century technology. Fueled by this cross
horizontal integration of the pharmaceutical industry, the tech industry and
media is able to enforce a narrative and they're doing
it in a way that's never been possible before.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
You know, doctor Malone has been on this podcast and
on my radio show, my television show talking about what
this all culminated into and how it was deliberate, how
it was government coordinating it. He called it a syop. Later,
not in twenty twenty two, he had to go through
three years of analysis to figure out what was going on.
(05:49):
He would ultimately call it a syop, and it was
a campaign to keep people in the dark about the Chinaviris,
jab about the Chinaviris origins, all of it.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
In bioethics research, medical ethics, there's a thing called informed consent.
There's many things, but that's one of the critical ones,
which is basically saying, before you do a procedure on
a given individual, you have to inform them of what
the potential risks are of the procedure and they have
to accept that before you go ahead and do it.
(06:21):
There seems to be no informed consent, as by of fact,
the oppostion informed consent. We're trying to we're trying to
hide information from the people who are receiving this thing,
who are basically being told by entrusted leaders that you
do this, and you're almost a patriotic duty that you
do more than almost.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
If you don't do it, you're killing people. And if
you share information as I do, that is bit grounded
in science. That's the dirty dozen, I think they called
it in these people. I've ever seen phone calls asserting
that I'm killing people by speaking out.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Killing people by putting out information. Can you guys remember this,
Remember this is twenty twenty two when this interview was happening,
and they were telling us, if we didn't vaccinate our children,
we were killing grandma. If we told the truth about
the lack of ethics of government, the lack of testing
on the vaccines, if we told the truth about all
(07:23):
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and many of us were like, oh man, maybe we
should just take it, Maybe we should just take it
just to get out of these lockdowns, government imposed lockdowns.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Folks.
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and how do we prevent it from happening again. The
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Let me get out to our guest, because this has
been very fascinating folks that that the Party of Science
has been anything, but it's been the Party of politics,
and left wing politics at that, and science has been sacrificed.
Let's discuss it with Jennifer Gallardi. She's a senior policy
analyst for Restoring American Wellness the Heritage Foundation to Boss Center.
(12:00):
Jennifer's work has appeared in several news and media outlets,
including The Epic Times, The Federalist, New York Sun, and
The Blaze Media.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Jennifer welcome, Thank you, It's so great to be with you.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Nice to have you up the Trump HHS Secretary, mister Kennedy,
and the President himself announcing a possible link between a
see of menifin use in pregnant women and a link
to autism. Tell us what the facts tell us about this.
The studies foreign against this hypothesis.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
The studies have gone both ways. The most recent one
out of Harvard correlated tilon holersa minifine use during pregnancy
with possible neurodevelopment neurodevelopmental outcomes, negative neurodevelopmental outcomes, including autism ADHD.
But this is really not a departure from previous recommendations.
(12:53):
Starting in the twenty tens, research began to raise questions
about the safety of cedamnifin during pregnancy, and there were
plenty of seats that suggested potential associations between again prolonged
or high dosage A sedamnifin use and adverse outcomes. A
twenty twenty one consensus statement signed by ninety one scientists
(13:14):
called for caution in using a cedamnifin during pregnancy, stating
the same potential risks. So this really wasn't anything groundbreaking
in my opinion. This was used to open the window
to really discuss what I think Kennedy is pointing to
and what a lot of research is showing, even though
it hasn't been transparent, is that there is a link
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between autism and if not vaccines directly the vaccine schedule
and the amount of vaccine children are getting at a
very young age. So I think what this was was
a political move by Trump to maybe give Kennedy some cover,
and more importantly, because the media has been so determined
(13:58):
to create a gap between AHHS and the Executive Office,
really solidify his support for Kennedy and say there's no
daylight between us. I'm on board. I am supporting what
Kennedy does. I'm supporting AJHS and all of the appointees
that are concerned with this issue.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
I want to get to vaccines in a minute, but
let's wrap up Thailand, because I actually, I actually thought
the same thing that you did. That this is starting
the conversation. This is what tailan All wrote on their
own website March seventh, twenty seventeen. Quote, we actually don't
recommend using any of our products while pregnant. Thank you
for taking the time to voice your concerns today. So
(14:40):
all of these left wing kooks and nuts and freaks
who are out there saying that the president is that
tailand All is going to sue the daylight side of
the federal government that they're going to that this is
somehow quack science that is being put out there. The
makers of Thailand all themselves do not recommend using their
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products while pregnant.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Correct, And you know, as Trump is wont to do.
He comes out, you know, like a bull in a
china shop, doesn't speak nuanced, doesn't speak you know, softly,
carry a big stitch. He just says it's not good,
don't take it. And then you've got someone like Oz
that goes on Fox News and says, listen, it's not
never take Thailand all. It's take Thailand all judiciously. It's
(15:27):
like talk to your doctor. These are common sense things,
and Trump's communication skills just aren't the same. And that's
why people like him, right, and that's why he stirs
up controversy. But really it's it's just a return to
common sense. Like everything in this administration, it's like stop
popping pills every time you've got a little acre paint,
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stop just using things without any discrimination.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Well, and not only that, it's it's look, the President
is saying, look, why would you risk it? That's what
he says, say don't take if you're pregnant, because and
he said this in the press conference, he's got a
lot of friends whose children are autistic, and full disclosure,
I have an autistic member of my family as well.
So my family in particular has looked at this three
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ways from Sunday, as all families impacted by autism have.
But look, why risk it? Is what the President was
saying in your right in his boom in China shop,
common sense way of expressing it. No, he doesn't do nuance.
He just said why would you do that? And of
course all these left wing nut jobs go out there
and start popping thailandol for no reason, which is of
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course against any medical professionals recommendations. Last thing on Thailandol.
Then I want to get to what I believe the
crux of where you want to go and where I
want to go with this. This is a list of
headlines from CNN. This shows you how dishonestly this is
being covered. And I think this goes into the discussion
you and I are about to have about vaccines. I'm
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going to read a series of headlines for you, Okay.
The first one is twenty sixteen, See a menfin during
pregnancy may increase risk of hyperactivity in kids. Then twenty
seventeen study links to CEEDO menifit in pregnancy to ADHD,
but experts question results. Let's see twenty twenty one common
painkillers should be investigative for possible risks developing fetuses, experts say.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
So.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Those are CNN headlines leading up to twenty twenty five
when Trump's on the scene, and this is what all
CNN And here's what CNN wrote after this announcement from
the Secretary and the President. Trump links autism to a
set of menfit use during pregnancy despite decades of evidence
it's safe. That's after CNN is spent decades saying, hey,
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it may not be safe. Now they're saying there's no evidence.
Doesn't this show the derangement of the left wing media.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, it shows TDS on full display. As far as
I'm concerned, I mean, you really have to be I
don't want to stay mentally unwell. But there's something he's triggered,
something people and anger and a resentment that have never
seen before that a pregnant woman just to spite President Trump,
or just to say stick it to them, so to speak, well,
(18:11):
just down tiland All, you know, and say like ha ha,
I'm going to take tyland All when they're pregnant. So
their anger, resentment hate for Donald Trump overrides they're concerned
about their baby, which common sense would say, why would
I tell I would argue that they probably didn't even
have symptoms, right, there's maybe taking one pillogy. I didn't
(18:32):
seek to be fair. I didn't see women like downing
tiland All. But still it's just it's just not common sensical.
And I think Trump has really broke particularly liberal women's brains.
I've written a lot about liberal women, having been one myself,
and you know, Jesse Kelly has called mental disordered, and
(18:53):
I maybe wouldn't go so far, but there's something in
their hearts that's not right, that leads to this kind
of behavior, this retribution, and for no reason, for no
real logical reason. No, I think I can't really explain it.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
And I marveled that we could actually be seeing, if
there is a link that has proven between autism and
tail and all, we could be seeing Trump arrangement syndrome
leading to the catastrophe that is autism with these displays
from these these women. And I would go far as
to call it a mental disorder. If your hatred of
somebody would cause you to intentionally put your baby at
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potential risk, I think that is a mental disorder, and
it exclusively impacts and afflicts the left.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Folks.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
We're talking to Jennifer Gallardi. She is a senior policy
analyst for Restoring American Wellness at the Heritage Foundation's devoce Center.
So let's see and I talk about where I think
the Secretary, where I think the President was going talking
about the vaccine schedule. I was talking to a medical
professional just the other day who did an analysis on
the vaccine schedule rules that we have here in the
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United States. Because we are seeing the spike, and only
we are seeing the significant spike in autism cases. One
in thirty one, I think is the last of males.
One in thirty one males born is on the spectrum.
At some point she did a comparison this medical professional
across the globe and their vaccine schedules, and they're they're
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virtually the same in all of the countries, but they
don't suffer from this rise in autism. So the speculation
was that maybe it's a combination of our diet, a
combination of the toxins that are our food that megafood
is putting inside of our of our food, and the
aggressive vaccine schedule. What is your research found?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, I mean it's really hard to parse this stuff
out because there have been so many changes to our diet,
to our vaccination schedule, to environmental I was just reading
an article in National Review asking if our water systems
contain fetal tissue and chemicals from abortion pills. I mean,
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there's so many factors in this that it's going to
be really hard to pinpoint one thing. And I think
that's why you heard Kennedy and Oz and all these
people saying it's like, we need to research all of
these things and exercise caution. So why don't we remove
with the announcement to get back to Thailand, or why
don't we remove any sort of possibility right, just like
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you said, just take caution as much as you can
when you have a pregnant child, because honestly, we don't know.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Drink filtered water, if you can eat better, if you
can try to buy organic, if you can't get your
eggs from a local farmer, if you can all of
these things. We see this in the administration with this
cross agency approach to health and everything, not just pregnancy.
But it's like we've so rapidly changed our environment that
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it is going to be difficult. And my concern is
that this is become so politicized. Health and medical advice,
which is bizarrenomy, has become so politicized that if Kennedy
does put out a report that says, for example, that
the vaccine schedule is overloaded, there is a link to autism,
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people are not going to listen to that advice because
it comes from them. They're going to say, oh, their
science is bias, with their science is biased, when over
and over again it was the quote unquote experts during
the experts during COVID who showed us their bias. Yes,
I honestly don't think. And you've got Kennedy, you've got
someone who was a Democrat in a Republican led administration.
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You've got Jay Badicharia Marty McCarey, who, as far as
I can tell, are the least political doctors and experts
in their field that you could have probably possibly found.
But just because they're in the Trump administration again, pds
will tell people don't.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Trust them, right, And you know what, and I've got
to say that it was the left that politicized medicine.
It was the left that politicized healthcare, absolutely, and they
did and they didn't do it to the benefit of
our health. They did it for the benefit of their politics,
to the point of saying, well, you know, I remember
Gavin Newsom coming out and saying, well, if you gather
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ten people or more in a business situation, that's okay,
but if you gathered ten or more in a church setting,
you know you can't do that. And it was so
blatantly politically obvious and non scientific. Look back to the vaccines, though,
I think my wife and I when we were deciding
to have to vaccinate our children, we said, look, we
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turned out relatively Okay, so we're going to put our
children on the gen X vaccine schedule and not their
recommended millennial slash gen Z vaccine schedule. And we got
pushedback from from these pediatricians, and they were hounding us
to the point to where and now I'm actually hearing
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that sometimes the pediatricians either fire the patients if they
don't comply, or they'll report you to CPS or child
protective services in your respective states if you don't, if
you don't do it their way. And I would encourage parents, look,
just take a break, tap the brakes, go back to
what we know isn't resulting in one and thirty one
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males being born with autism. Go back to that vaccine schedule,
take it slow, don't overload their immune system, and certainly
don't be injecting them with stuff they don't need right now. Like,
what was it? What is the it's the HPV. Yeah,
they have be shots, the MMR, measles, mumps, rebella all
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at once, get them separately. Take your time, exactly, take
your time. What is your research saying about. Let's just
tap the brakes a little bit. Let's have a look
at what was working and maybe not an elimination of vaccines,
but are rethinking of vaccines. And also with this, then
medical science has progressed such a degree to where once
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terminal afflictions, if you catch it, you can whether it,
beat it and be and have natural immunity rather than
vaccinated immunity. Shouldn't we be considering.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
All of it?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
We should? I mean you just stated it. Listen, you
know again, COVID was such an eye opener for people
where we saw hospitals and doctors being paid to or
at least being rewarded yes for increasing vaccinations. So I
think if we need to get over the hurdle in
the meantime, the most important thing we can enact is
(25:37):
a medical freedom policy. Right, so you get to choose,
parents get to choose in lieu of not having maybe
the best information right now about vaccines or doubts or whatever.
The best approach I think would be to enact a
medical freedom policy where you're not fenalized for not giving
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your kid, you know this, seventy two shot lists before
they're three, and that you get to say, well, we're
going to take more of the gen X approach. I
feel the same way I actually asked my mother if
she would send me in my vaccine records, and it
was like ten to twelve shots.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yep, right, yep.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Jumping to like, I think it is thirty before the
three or thirty five before they're three, and by the
time they're eighteen, it's seventy something right with the with
the re upping of them and stuff like that, So
you know, if we could. We're actually working on some
model legislation for medical freedom bills, and that really kind
of gets you over the hump of having to know
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exactly about the vaccines and again letting doctors. Restoring first
of all, the doctor patient relationship that has to be there.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
It's so hard the.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Way our medical system is set up, yep, but restoring
that doctor patient relationship, finding someone you trust. Listen, I
look at doctors, quote unquote firing a patient like I
look at a job. An employer. Firing an employee is like,
usually it's for the better, right, Usually it works out
for the better. You find a doctor more aligned with
your values, your beliefs that you shouldn't be punished by schools,
(27:12):
by nursery care, by anybody for not adhering not adhering
to the insane schedule right now. So I think medical
freedom is primary. The other thing I did want to
bring up that was hinted at in the press conference
that has been talked about a lot in the MAHA
movement but hasn't really been pushed mainstream, is looking at
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a population that does not vaccinate their kids. Yes, and
Trump mentioned it the Amish. That was like the bomb
to me, Like the fact that he's mentioning that was
just a he just blew the window open.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
But remember, remember, though, Jennifer, the Amish, not only do
they have a reduced because some of them do vaccinate,
but some of them have even even among those who
do vaccinate, they have all the stuff that you already mentioned,
the non chemically invaded, invaded food products, that it's all natural.
They have a very basic maybe even paleo. I guess
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you would classify it as kind of a diet with
no additives, no preservatives, no artificial chemicals, and food dies.
And so it's that type of environment that I think, hey,
if it works. And by the way, that that type
of diet is replicated around the globe in various countries
where they also have vaccines, but not at the extent
and the and the and the the overwhelming extent that
(28:36):
we have it here in the United States. Plus they
have organic foods and they have foods they don't have
a lot of pesticides and chemicals and genetically modified foods.
I think we got to take it all into consideration
as part of this all the above approach and get
back to what works, what we know works, and that
that does entail, as you're saying, medical freedom and the
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ability to get government off your back when you are
making these decisions about you and your family.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
And I think that's key, yeah, because you know, I'm
not foolish enough to think everybody's going to go ahead
and laid an amage lifestyle. And we're seeing the pushback
on even changes to the USBA to try to get
healthier school lunches, right, you know, because the food pyramid
gave us such poor information about diets. But to try
(29:23):
to get around that now it's you know, it's like
driving a truck through a wall. It's just really difficult.
So if you could just allow parents to make the choices,
let's educate. I always look at it kind of how
we did smoking campaign. It took a while, right, it
wasn't an over nine six. It's probably ten to fifteen
(29:43):
years to really convince people that this was bad from you.
We had doctors recommending people smoke, you know, So it
took the paradigm took a long time to shift. But
I think what Kennedy his AHHS crew is doing, they're
doing it at excellent job of messaging, an excellent job
of getting the education out there. Now people could just
(30:05):
get around their tds and use some common sense and
listen really to what they're saying and then make informed choices.
I think we can turn the ship around, but it
isn't going to happen overnight. We're in it for the
long haul. We're in it past this election cycle. But
we also want to make sure. For me, one of
my goals is to make sure this becomes a platform
(30:27):
of the Republican Party. Absolute has completely abandoned these issues.
If Republicans don't take it up, and if we don't
start voting based on these issues, you know, we're going
to have a longer haul road to hoe and if
we can get Republicans on board with them, but they've.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Got bested interests too, So yeah, exactly, it's a challenge
to DEMI two Democrats. I would say, look, love your
family and love your children more than you hate this
country and hate Trump.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
All right.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
That's that's the only advice I would give. Jennifer Galardi,
analyst for restoring American wellness in the Heritage Foundations Devace Center.
Thank you very much, appreciate the visit.
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Senator Rand Paul gave an interview. Actually, I wasn't an interview.
I think he was actually speaking at a conference. He
was sitting in front of a whole bunch of people
at the Heritage Foundation, and well, this is Children's health
defense is who he was speaking in front of. And naturally,
with all the things going on with healthcare lately, and
with what kind of decisions have been made by past
(01:06):
regimes and Anthony Fauci and the World Health Organization, all
that kind of stuff, it's on everybody's mind. Here's what
Senator Paul had to say.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
My wife and I, Kelly, been married about thirty five
years now. And I travel to Washington every Monday and
then back home at the end of the week. And
I get home and I expect, you know, a hug,
a kiss, maybe a martini. When I get to the door,
I knock on the door and she greets me, and
you know what, she asked me, how come Anthony Fauci's not.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
In jail yet.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
So I've been getting that greeting for the last couple
of years and she's still expecting me to have miracles to,
you know, put Anthony Fauci away. And it's not like
we haven't tried. I you know, sent two official letters
to the Department of Justice under Biden. I've resent those
under President Trump as well. But it has been made
more difficult, you know, since he was pardoned by the
auto pen who knew an auto that a machine could
(02:01):
pardon someone. But it has been made more difficult. But
it is something that the truth of the matter and
the truth about what went on is incredibly important because
whether or not he is judged by a criminal court,
he will be judged by history. And how he is
judged by history has to do with what happens to
all of us in the next pandemic. And I say,
(02:22):
never again, never again do we let them invade our churches,
our schools, our businesses. Never again.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
I'm with him, never again. We should not allow that
ever again. But you know, I'm also not with him
when he says whether it's by you know, a court
or by history, no, I want it to be a
court his eminence. Doctor Fauci needs to face a reckoning
for what he did to us. It's a must. I'm
(02:52):
going to have to call it a requirement. It's going
to have to be done. Back in twenty twenty two,
I've already played some excerpts from this interview that doctor
Robert Malone gave to Maha Films. And this is a
fantastic interview, folks. If you can find it on doctor
Malone's substack, I highly recommend it. It's an hour and
forty five minutes. It's an eye opener. And my doctor
(03:15):
Malone released this because he says, this is me before
I've been put through really the political ringer, which is
he believes has influenced his outlook, which he's probably right,
And what a great man he is to be able
to say, Look, I might be compromised now because of
all the political garbage it has been thrown my way,
(03:37):
or it may have destroyed my objectivity a little bit,
but this back in twenty twenty two is me at
my purest, you know, pure scientist, trying to figure out
what was going on with the so called medical establishment.
Here he is talking about how the medical establishment the
government tried to silence experts. Listen to this.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
If you ever in your life career seen this type
of censorship where qualified experts are speaking about their view
of things, giving expert opinion, if you will, based on
what's happening, and it's completely shut down, and people are
applauding the fact that the censorship is happening because they
(04:19):
don't want to scare people or spook people away from
getting the vaccine. That that's the only thing, that's the
only thing that matters, is that the vaccine, that people
get this vaccine.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
And that we get universal vaccination. Okay, no, it's unprecedented.
I've never seen it. My peers have never seen it.
There is in the Federal Register, honest to God, in
nineteen eighty four, there is a section that speaking about
polio vaccines, in which the federal government asserts that any information,
(04:49):
whether true or not, which would cause vaccine hesitancy is
to be suppressed. So this is out there, it's documented,
is nineteen eighty four of in US policy for a
long time. And I assert that what we've got is
twentieth century thinking about communication and information management coupled to
(05:11):
amazingly powerful twenty first century technology. Fueled by this cross
horizontal integration of the pharmaceutical industry, the tech industry and
media is able to enforce a narrative and they're doing
it in a way that's never been possible before.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
You know, doctor Malone has been on this podcast and
on my radio show, my television show talking about what
this all culminated into and how it was deliberate, how
it was government coordinating it. He called it a syop. Later,
not in twenty twenty two, he had to go through
three years of analysis to figure out what was going on.
(05:49):
He would ultimately call it a syop, and it was
a campaign to keep people in the dark about the Chinaviris,
jab about the Chinaviris origins, all of it.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
In bioethics research, medical ethics, there's a thing called informed consent.
There's many things, but that's one of the critical ones,
which is basically saying, before you do a procedure on
a given individual, you have to inform them of what
the potential risks are of the procedure and they have
to accept that before you go ahead and do it.
(06:21):
There seems to be no informed consent, as by of fact,
the oppostion informed consent. We're trying to we're trying to
hide information from the people who are receiving this thing,
who are basically being told by entrusted leaders that you
do this, and you're almost a patriotic duty that you
do more than almost.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
If you don't do it, you're killing people. And if
you share information as I do, that is bit grounded
in science. That's the dirty dozen, I think they called
it in these people. I've ever seen phone calls asserting
that I'm killing people by speaking out.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Killing people by putting out information. Can you guys remember this,
Remember this is twenty twenty two when this interview was happening,
and they were telling us, if we didn't vaccinate our children,
we were killing grandma. If we told the truth about
the lack of ethics of government, the lack of testing
on the vaccines, if we told the truth about all
(07:23):
of it. And I recall folks, you know the lockdowns,
and many of us were like, oh man, maybe we
should just take it, Maybe we should just take it
just to get out of these lockdowns, government imposed lockdowns.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Folks.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Remember two weeks or what was it, two weeks to
stop the spread whatever it did, of course didn't work,
so a lot of people are focusing on, Wow, how
did our current structure allow for such a thing to happen,
and how do we prevent it from happening again. The
opening bit, if you will, came courtesy of the Trump administration,
the Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior.
(08:00):
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Speaker 5 (11:39):
Let me get out to our guest, because this has
been very fascinating folks that that the Party of Science
has been anything, but it's been the Party of politics,
and left wing politics at that, and science has been sacrificed.
Let's discuss it with Jennifer Gallardi. She's a senior policy
analyst for Restoring American Wellness the Heritage Foundation to Boss Center.
(12:00):
Jennifer's work has appeared in several news and media outlets,
including The Epic Times, The Federalist, New York Sun, and
The Blaze Media.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Jennifer welcome, Thank you, It's so great to be with you.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Nice to have you up the Trump HHS Secretary, mister Kennedy,
and the President himself announcing a possible link between a
see of menifin use in pregnant women and a link
to autism. Tell us what the facts tell us about this.
The studies foreign against this hypothesis.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
The studies have gone both ways. The most recent one
out of Harvard correlated tilon holersa minifine use during pregnancy
with possible neurodevelopment neurodevelopmental outcomes, negative neurodevelopmental outcomes, including autism ADHD.
But this is really not a departure from previous recommendations.
(12:53):
Starting in the twenty tens, research began to raise questions
about the safety of cedamnifin during pregnancy, and there were
plenty of seats that suggested potential associations between again prolonged
or high dosage A sedamnifin use and adverse outcomes. A
twenty twenty one consensus statement signed by ninety one scientists
(13:14):
called for caution in using a cedamnifin during pregnancy, stating
the same potential risks. So this really wasn't anything groundbreaking
in my opinion. This was used to open the window
to really discuss what I think Kennedy is pointing to
and what a lot of research is showing, even though
it hasn't been transparent, is that there is a link
(13:37):
between autism and if not vaccines directly the vaccine schedule
and the amount of vaccine children are getting at a
very young age. So I think what this was was
a political move by Trump to maybe give Kennedy some cover,
and more importantly, because the media has been so determined
(13:58):
to create a gap between AHHS and the Executive Office,
really solidify his support for Kennedy and say there's no
daylight between us. I'm on board. I am supporting what
Kennedy does. I'm supporting AJHS and all of the appointees
that are concerned with this issue.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
I want to get to vaccines in a minute, but
let's wrap up Thailand, because I actually, I actually thought
the same thing that you did. That this is starting
the conversation. This is what tailan All wrote on their
own website March seventh, twenty seventeen. Quote, we actually don't
recommend using any of our products while pregnant. Thank you
for taking the time to voice your concerns today. So
(14:40):
all of these left wing kooks and nuts and freaks
who are out there saying that the president is that
tailand All is going to sue the daylight side of
the federal government that they're going to that this is
somehow quack science that is being put out there. The
makers of Thailand all themselves do not recommend using their
(15:02):
products while pregnant.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Correct, And you know, as Trump is wont to do.
He comes out, you know, like a bull in a
china shop, doesn't speak nuanced, doesn't speak you know, softly,
carry a big stitch. He just says it's not good,
don't take it. And then you've got someone like Oz
that goes on Fox News and says, listen, it's not
never take Thailand all. It's take Thailand all judiciously. It's
(15:27):
like talk to your doctor. These are common sense things,
and Trump's communication skills just aren't the same. And that's
why people like him, right, and that's why he stirs
up controversy. But really it's it's just a return to
common sense. Like everything in this administration, it's like stop
popping pills every time you've got a little acre paint,
(15:47):
stop just using things without any discrimination.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Well, and not only that, it's it's look, the President
is saying, look, why would you risk it? That's what
he says, say don't take if you're pregnant, because and
he said this in the press conference, he's got a
lot of friends whose children are autistic, and full disclosure,
I have an autistic member of my family as well.
So my family in particular has looked at this three
(16:12):
ways from Sunday, as all families impacted by autism have.
But look, why risk it? Is what the President was
saying in your right in his boom in China shop,
common sense way of expressing it. No, he doesn't do nuance.
He just said why would you do that? And of
course all these left wing nut jobs go out there
and start popping thailandol for no reason, which is of
(16:33):
course against any medical professionals recommendations. Last thing on Thailandol.
Then I want to get to what I believe the
crux of where you want to go and where I
want to go with this. This is a list of
headlines from CNN. This shows you how dishonestly this is
being covered. And I think this goes into the discussion
you and I are about to have about vaccines. I'm
(16:54):
going to read a series of headlines for you, Okay.
The first one is twenty sixteen, See a menfin during
pregnancy may increase risk of hyperactivity in kids. Then twenty
seventeen study links to CEEDO menifit in pregnancy to ADHD,
but experts question results. Let's see twenty twenty one common
painkillers should be investigative for possible risks developing fetuses, experts say.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
So.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Those are CNN headlines leading up to twenty twenty five
when Trump's on the scene, and this is what all
CNN And here's what CNN wrote after this announcement from
the Secretary and the President. Trump links autism to a
set of menfit use during pregnancy despite decades of evidence
it's safe. That's after CNN is spent decades saying, hey,
(17:41):
it may not be safe. Now they're saying there's no evidence.
Doesn't this show the derangement of the left wing media.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, it shows TDS on full display. As far as
I'm concerned, I mean, you really have to be I
don't want to stay mentally unwell. But there's something he's triggered,
something people and anger and a resentment that have never
seen before that a pregnant woman just to spite President Trump,
or just to say stick it to them, so to speak, well,
(18:11):
just down tiland All, you know, and say like ha ha,
I'm going to take tyland All when they're pregnant. So
their anger, resentment hate for Donald Trump overrides they're concerned
about their baby, which common sense would say, why would
I tell I would argue that they probably didn't even
have symptoms, right, there's maybe taking one pillogy. I didn't
(18:32):
seek to be fair. I didn't see women like downing
tiland All. But still it's just it's just not common sensical.
And I think Trump has really broke particularly liberal women's brains.
I've written a lot about liberal women, having been one myself,
and you know, Jesse Kelly has called mental disordered, and
(18:53):
I maybe wouldn't go so far, but there's something in
their hearts that's not right, that leads to this kind
of behavior, this retribution, and for no reason, for no
real logical reason. No, I think I can't really explain it.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
And I marveled that we could actually be seeing, if
there is a link that has proven between autism and
tail and all, we could be seeing Trump arrangement syndrome
leading to the catastrophe that is autism with these displays
from these these women. And I would go far as
to call it a mental disorder. If your hatred of
somebody would cause you to intentionally put your baby at
(19:32):
potential risk, I think that is a mental disorder, and
it exclusively impacts and afflicts the left.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Folks.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
We're talking to Jennifer Gallardi. She is a senior policy
analyst for Restoring American Wellness at the Heritage Foundation's devoce Center.
So let's see and I talk about where I think
the Secretary, where I think the President was going talking
about the vaccine schedule. I was talking to a medical
professional just the other day who did an analysis on
the vaccine schedule rules that we have here in the
(20:01):
United States. Because we are seeing the spike, and only
we are seeing the significant spike in autism cases. One
in thirty one, I think is the last of males.
One in thirty one males born is on the spectrum.
At some point she did a comparison this medical professional
across the globe and their vaccine schedules, and they're they're
(20:21):
virtually the same in all of the countries, but they
don't suffer from this rise in autism. So the speculation
was that maybe it's a combination of our diet, a
combination of the toxins that are our food that megafood
is putting inside of our of our food, and the
aggressive vaccine schedule. What is your research found?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, I mean it's really hard to parse this stuff
out because there have been so many changes to our diet,
to our vaccination schedule, to environmental I was just reading
an article in National Review asking if our water systems
contain fetal tissue and chemicals from abortion pills. I mean,
(21:05):
there's so many factors in this that it's going to
be really hard to pinpoint one thing. And I think
that's why you heard Kennedy and Oz and all these
people saying it's like, we need to research all of
these things and exercise caution. So why don't we remove
with the announcement to get back to Thailand, or why
don't we remove any sort of possibility right, just like
(21:28):
you said, just take caution as much as you can
when you have a pregnant child, because honestly, we don't know.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Drink filtered water, if you can eat better, if you
can try to buy organic, if you can't get your
eggs from a local farmer, if you can all of
these things. We see this in the administration with this
cross agency approach to health and everything, not just pregnancy.
But it's like we've so rapidly changed our environment that
(21:56):
it is going to be difficult. And my concern is
that this is become so politicized. Health and medical advice,
which is bizarrenomy, has become so politicized that if Kennedy
does put out a report that says, for example, that
the vaccine schedule is overloaded, there is a link to autism,
(22:17):
people are not going to listen to that advice because
it comes from them. They're going to say, oh, their
science is bias, with their science is biased, when over
and over again it was the quote unquote experts during
the experts during COVID who showed us their bias. Yes,
I honestly don't think. And you've got Kennedy, you've got
someone who was a Democrat in a Republican led administration.
(22:40):
You've got Jay Badicharia Marty McCarey, who, as far as
I can tell, are the least political doctors and experts
in their field that you could have probably possibly found.
But just because they're in the Trump administration again, pds
will tell people don't.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Trust them, right, And you know what, and I've got
to say that it was the left that politicized medicine.
It was the left that politicized healthcare, absolutely, and they
did and they didn't do it to the benefit of
our health. They did it for the benefit of their politics,
to the point of saying, well, you know, I remember
Gavin Newsom coming out and saying, well, if you gather
(23:17):
ten people or more in a business situation, that's okay,
but if you gathered ten or more in a church setting,
you know you can't do that. And it was so
blatantly politically obvious and non scientific. Look back to the vaccines, though,
I think my wife and I when we were deciding
to have to vaccinate our children, we said, look, we
(23:37):
turned out relatively Okay, so we're going to put our
children on the gen X vaccine schedule and not their
recommended millennial slash gen Z vaccine schedule. And we got
pushedback from from these pediatricians, and they were hounding us
to the point to where and now I'm actually hearing
(23:59):
that sometimes the pediatricians either fire the patients if they
don't comply, or they'll report you to CPS or child
protective services in your respective states if you don't, if
you don't do it their way. And I would encourage parents, look,
just take a break, tap the brakes, go back to
what we know isn't resulting in one and thirty one
(24:20):
males being born with autism. Go back to that vaccine schedule,
take it slow, don't overload their immune system, and certainly
don't be injecting them with stuff they don't need right now. Like,
what was it? What is the it's the HPV. Yeah,
they have be shots, the MMR, measles, mumps, rebella all
(24:40):
at once, get them separately. Take your time, exactly, take
your time. What is your research saying about. Let's just
tap the brakes a little bit. Let's have a look
at what was working and maybe not an elimination of vaccines,
but are rethinking of vaccines. And also with this, then
medical science has progressed such a degree to where once
(25:04):
terminal afflictions, if you catch it, you can whether it,
beat it and be and have natural immunity rather than
vaccinated immunity. Shouldn't we be considering.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
All of it?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
We should? I mean you just stated it. Listen, you
know again, COVID was such an eye opener for people
where we saw hospitals and doctors being paid to or
at least being rewarded yes for increasing vaccinations. So I
think if we need to get over the hurdle in
the meantime, the most important thing we can enact is
(25:37):
a medical freedom policy. Right, so you get to choose,
parents get to choose in lieu of not having maybe
the best information right now about vaccines or doubts or whatever.
The best approach I think would be to enact a
medical freedom policy where you're not fenalized for not giving
(25:59):
your kid, you know this, seventy two shot lists before
they're three, and that you get to say, well, we're
going to take more of the gen X approach. I
feel the same way I actually asked my mother if
she would send me in my vaccine records, and it
was like ten to twelve shots.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yep, right, yep.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Jumping to like, I think it is thirty before the
three or thirty five before they're three, and by the
time they're eighteen, it's seventy something right with the with
the re upping of them and stuff like that, So
you know, if we could. We're actually working on some
model legislation for medical freedom bills, and that really kind
of gets you over the hump of having to know
(26:39):
exactly about the vaccines and again letting doctors. Restoring first
of all, the doctor patient relationship that has to be there.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
It's so hard the.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Way our medical system is set up, yep, but restoring
that doctor patient relationship, finding someone you trust. Listen, I
look at doctors, quote unquote firing a patient like I
look at a job. An employer. Firing an employee is like,
usually it's for the better, right, Usually it works out
for the better. You find a doctor more aligned with
your values, your beliefs that you shouldn't be punished by schools,
(27:12):
by nursery care, by anybody for not adhering not adhering
to the insane schedule right now. So I think medical
freedom is primary. The other thing I did want to
bring up that was hinted at in the press conference
that has been talked about a lot in the MAHA
movement but hasn't really been pushed mainstream, is looking at
(27:36):
a population that does not vaccinate their kids. Yes, and
Trump mentioned it the Amish. That was like the bomb
to me, Like the fact that he's mentioning that was
just a he just blew the window open.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
But remember, remember, though, Jennifer, the Amish, not only do
they have a reduced because some of them do vaccinate,
but some of them have even even among those who
do vaccinate, they have all the stuff that you already mentioned,
the non chemically invaded, invaded food products, that it's all natural.
They have a very basic maybe even paleo. I guess
(28:13):
you would classify it as kind of a diet with
no additives, no preservatives, no artificial chemicals, and food dies.
And so it's that type of environment that I think, hey,
if it works. And by the way, that that type
of diet is replicated around the globe in various countries
where they also have vaccines, but not at the extent
and the and the and the the overwhelming extent that
(28:36):
we have it here in the United States. Plus they
have organic foods and they have foods they don't have
a lot of pesticides and chemicals and genetically modified foods.
I think we got to take it all into consideration
as part of this all the above approach and get
back to what works, what we know works, and that
that does entail, as you're saying, medical freedom and the
(28:57):
ability to get government off your back when you are
making these decisions about you and your family.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
And I think that's key, yeah, because you know, I'm
not foolish enough to think everybody's going to go ahead
and laid an amage lifestyle. And we're seeing the pushback
on even changes to the USBA to try to get
healthier school lunches, right, you know, because the food pyramid
gave us such poor information about diets. But to try
(29:23):
to get around that now it's you know, it's like
driving a truck through a wall. It's just really difficult.
So if you could just allow parents to make the choices,
let's educate. I always look at it kind of how
we did smoking campaign. It took a while, right, it
wasn't an over nine six. It's probably ten to fifteen
(29:43):
years to really convince people that this was bad from you.
We had doctors recommending people smoke, you know, So it
took the paradigm took a long time to shift. But
I think what Kennedy his AHHS crew is doing, they're
doing it at excellent job of messaging, an excellent job
of getting the education out there. Now people could just
(30:05):
get around their tds and use some common sense and
listen really to what they're saying and then make informed choices.
I think we can turn the ship around, but it
isn't going to happen overnight. We're in it for the
long haul. We're in it past this election cycle. But
we also want to make sure. For me, one of
my goals is to make sure this becomes a platform
(30:27):
of the Republican Party. Absolute has completely abandoned these issues.
If Republicans don't take it up, and if we don't
start voting based on these issues, you know, we're going
to have a longer haul road to hoe and if
we can get Republicans on board with them, but they've.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Got bested interests too, So yeah, exactly, it's a challenge
to DEMI two Democrats. I would say, look, love your
family and love your children more than you hate this
country and hate Trump.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
All right.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
That's that's the only advice I would give. Jennifer Galardi,
analyst for restoring American wellness in the Heritage Foundations Devace Center.
Thank you very much, appreciate the visit.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Great talking to you, Chris. Thanks again.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
That right there is going to put a rap on
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untill we visit again. My friends, remember this, A society's
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out of control government. A society's worth is measured by
how much powers reserved for you and me, we the people.
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