December 3, 2025 • 28 mins
On this Salcedo Storm Podcast:
Dr. Frank Contacessa is a board certified internist who has been providing personalized, concierge care to his patients for over 25 years. He preaches lifestyle and nutrition, rather than drugs and quick fixes.
Dr. Frank Contacessa is a board certified internist who has been providing personalized, concierge care to his patients for over 25 years. He preaches lifestyle and nutrition, rather than drugs and quick fixes.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
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Down by breaking a major story.
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Speaker 7 (00:42):
President Trump issued one of the strongest statements on the
use of the auto pin in the Beijing Biden regime.
As you all may or may not know, Beijing Biden
was in charge of absolutely nothing. Beijing Biden was a
mental incompetent who who was run by Obama handlers, who
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was sheltered from the press, who ran from his basement
and capture the presidency. In the entire four years this
country was run by unelected, nameless, faceless Marxists, and the
auto pen was the mechanism by which they ruled in
Beijing Biden's name. And they I like to know who
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they are, and President Trump is taking steps to perhaps
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this on the second of December at about I guess
that would be about six o'clock Eastern Ish. Any and
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the administration of Joseph R. Biden Junior, are hereby null
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or any other legal document so signed please be advised
that said document has been fully and completely terminated and
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This includes general White Rage Millie. These individuals are going
to be in some legal limbo.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Now. If only we could do.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
Things like this for Obamacare, I guess I can. I
can state that Obamacare was passed by Congress duly elected
members of Congress, even though they had to they had
to do some shenanigans to deem it passed. There's a
whole bunch of legal challenges in wrangling to that, but
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at any rate, since its passage, you was passed on.
Everything about Obamacare was lies. And I've got to tell you,
folks that Obamacare has been terrible from day one. And
it's not me saying it. Left wing comedians in a
montage that we found online saying it, have a listen.
Speaker 8 (03:16):
Speaking of things that are sucking Obamacare. The government just
announced that next year premiums are going up by twenty
five percent. I haven't seen Obama hat something so high
since she stopped wearing mom jeans. It explains why the
picture on the Obamacare website has gone.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
From this to this.
Speaker 8 (03:40):
So there it is affordable healthcare will just never work
for this country. Insane medical bills are as American as
hot dogs apple pie and the thirty six hundred dollars
hospital bill to remove the hot dog lodged in your
apple pie hole. And it's not the whole you think.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
And Actable Care Act continues to be terrible. First, there
are technical problems with the healthcare dot dov website. Now
comes news that not enough young and healthy Americans are
signing up for coverage, which is crucial for the success
of the program. The way insurance works is you need
all the young, healthy people to pay for insurance and
not use it until they get old and unhealthy. And
(04:21):
so far, only a quarter of the two point two
million people who signed up for between eighteen and thirty
four twenty four percent. The White House was hoping for
closer to thirty eight percent. Why they would hope.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
That I don't know.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
They expect young people to buy insurance at the same
time the PlayStation four comes out. You know, if you
want young people to sign up, maybe you shouldn't have
made the loss. You can stay on your parents' plan
until you turn twenty six a weeks. What kid is
going to say, you know, no, thanks mom and dad,
I got the premiums covered at the deadline to sign
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up is March thirty first. In my experience of running
at young people to do something, all I have to
do is tell them specifically not to do something right,
or we have ten free lives and candy crush of
the first ten million subscribers. Just to make sure the
younger people do sign up, the Obama administration is rolling
out a new ad campaign that's targeted specifically at the
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young and vibrant.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Hi.
Speaker 9 (05:13):
I'm Alex and this is my wife, Martha, and we're
both approaching the big six to zero, and.
Speaker 10 (05:17):
We have healthcare issues to deal with.
Speaker 9 (05:19):
I take blood pressure medication and lebit yes and Martha's
got beta blockers and something for her osteoporosis.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
It's not cheap, but fortunately we don't have to pay
for it.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Well you do, that's right, you.
Speaker 10 (05:31):
Young people are king for our direct and our douthors not.
Speaker 9 (05:34):
To mention our social security and our medicare when we
retired of Boca and you know why, because you don't
vote we do.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
That's right.
Speaker 11 (05:42):
I hope you enjoyed that burning Guy festival on Martha.
Speaker 9 (05:45):
Let's go find that Levitra Oh the Affordable Care Act
next time. Maybe pick up a newspaper, a.
Speaker 10 (05:51):
Newspaper now here in the States, we're still working out
some of the fine print on our new healthcare system
right now. There's been some talking to the President of
United States. Was less than one hundred percent with some of.
Speaker 9 (06:00):
This healthcare rhetoric.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
If you like your current plan, you will be able
to keep it.
Speaker 10 (06:07):
Didn't you say if we like our current plan, we'll
be able to keep it.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Let me repeat that, if you like your plan, you'll
be able to keep it.
Speaker 11 (06:17):
I thought that was what you said.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
Speaker 11 (06:22):
Want to add any caveats to that, because it sounds
kind of definitive.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
We will keep this promise to the American people. If
you like your doctor, you will be able to keep
your doctor. Period. If you like your healthcare plan, you
will be able to keep your health care plan period bad.
Speaker 10 (06:45):
First of all, I do not think you're supposed to
read the punctuation in the speetures. I'm pretty sure you
sposed this boy.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
And second of all, how would.
Speaker 10 (06:57):
That definitive statement sound postinglementation of said new Healthcare Act
when it has become abundantly clear that you cannot always
keep your plan or your.
Speaker 12 (07:04):
Doctor if you have or had one of these plans
before the Affordable Care Act came in the law and
you really liked that plan, what we said was you
could keep it if it hasn't changed since the laws passed.
Speaker 13 (07:22):
No, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 11 (07:25):
What you kid was you you can keep it period?
Speaker 10 (07:33):
Now what you said?
Speaker 11 (07:33):
What you said there was more like, you can keep
your healthcare plan ellipses comma because it may no longer
meet the minimum requirements, or your insurance company may stop
offering individual plans, or some other odd bureaucratic, unintended offshoot
period emoticon denoting a combination of embarrassment and arrogance.
Speaker 10 (07:57):
Did I do that?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Did I do that? President Erkele? Did do that?
Speaker 7 (08:02):
Folks? We have been dealing with the cancer of Obamacare
ever since it was crammed down our throat, worthless piece
of garbage socialist law by a worthless piece of garbage
socialist political party known as Democrats. And we've got to
find a way out of it or else it's going
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to destroy us. It will destroy healthcare. Well, the finest
healthcare system in the world has already destroyed. How do
we rebuild it? Those are the questions I'm going to
be asking a medical professional right here on the Salsado
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much BS as Obamacare is. What if you're under sixty five?
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Speaker 2 (09:04):
Including surgeries.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
You pick your doctors and hospitals. There are private plans
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Speaker 7 (12:17):
Obamacare has failed. Obamacare was constructed to fail. Obamacare was
designed to get you hooked on government spending, to try
to pad the pockets of political constituencies for politicians, and
to enslave you, to condition you to accept government control
over your healthcare. How many of you have fallen for it?
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How many of you have said, oh, yeah, well, you know,
if it's a choice between my premiums going through the
roof and having government swoop in. Folks, They did it
to you with Social Security too. It was just every
bit of scam as Obamacare is. And look, I've got
people that always call me up saying, oh, social Security
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is not an entitlement.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I paid end to that.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
No, you gave money to government on a promise that
government would fulfill its promise. And government broke every promise
with social Security, as they are breaking every promise with Obamacare.
Like your plan, keep your plan, like your doctor, keep
your doctor. An average family afore is going to say
fifteen hundred dollars a year. Never happened, Never will because
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socialism can't succeed. Let's talk to doctor Frank Katasasa. He's
a board certified internist who's been providing personalized concierge care
for his patients for over twenty five years. Preachers lifestyle
and nutrition, folks, rather than drugs and quick fixes.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Doc.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Welcome back, Hey, good morning, Chris. Great toive you with you.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Obamacare just give me a view from thirty thousand feet up.
The results of Obamacare in the medical landscape, well.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Chris has been an absolute disaster. Every promise that was
made has been going back on. We can look at
our own insurance bills and premiums are through the roof.
They've at least doubled. And by the way, the money
is not going to doctors. You know, that's what I think.
People say, I spend so much money on my healthcare,
the doctors must be really making out, and that's not
the case at all. You know, they really the only
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people making out of the insurance companies in the middlemen.
You know, if somebody has a surgery and you know,
they build ten thousand dollars, the surgeon does not get
ten thousand dollars. You might get, you know, six or seven,
eight hundred dollars. So it's just something like that. All
the rest go to the insurance companies in the hospitals
and all of this. So it's been a nightmare. It's
difficult to get services for people trying to get drugs approved,
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or if somebody needs a cascan or an MRI, the
process has become even harder. It affects the way doctors
can practice. It affects the relationship doctors have with their patients,
and it's become corporatized instead of personalized the way it
should be. And that's one of the reasons I kind
of broke with the system and went into sort of
concierge medicine where I can practice more freely and provide
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much better care to my patients. Unfortun it comes with
a price.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
Teck, Well, that's correct. Because you have the deck courtesy
of government. The deck is stacked against you. The deck
is stacked against those who are in private practice. And
again you said, all the goodies go to corporate America,
to the insurance companies, and you get these impersonal, big
conglomerates that are gobbling up private practices. You gave a
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stat to me the other day when I was filling
in for David Harris Junior. That was astonishing. I looked
it up and confirmed it that since Obamacare. When Obamacare
was first implemented, sixty percent of doctors were in private practice.
That's down to forty two percent now, a twenty percent drop.
And that's because of Obamacare and the government working to
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destroy one sixth of the US economy.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Correct, that's right, Chris. You know what happens, and this
happened to me. Earlier in my career. I had a
private practice with a partner, you know, just old school
out of you know, basically my partner's house with a
shingle out front. You can't do that anymore because after
a few years we were part of a small group.
The small group grew into a bigger group. The big
group got gobbled up by a large conglomerate corporation. And
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you know, for a little while it's okay, but it
turns into a numbers game. They grow statistics that well,
you're not getting enough of these units. You're not put
doing it out enough prog I was working, I was
seeing up to I had four thousand patients in my practice.
I was seeing twenty five to thirty office visits a day.
It's very difficult to provide proper care when you're seeing
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thirty people a day, so they make it almost impossible,
and they keep making you chase these bonuses that they've thrown. Well,
we'll give you a little bit more if you can
just see more people, But then the quality suffers. Like
I said, the only way out is to go into
really private medicine and divorce yourself from the system. But
they have stacked the deck against primary care. They've stacked
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it against being in private practice. If you're not affiliated
with a big company, then you also can't negotiate with
the ship's companies. So, for example, if United Healthcare tends
to pay you, let's let's say one hundred and ten
dollars for an office visit, Well, if i'm you know,
doctor Frank Incorporated, I go to say, United, you know
that's really not enough that can you give you like
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one hundred and forty per visit? They're like, no, if
you don't like it, then just don't take United health Care.
But a corporation can go in and say, hey, we
have six thousand doctors in our corporation. You're going to
pay us one hundred and forty or we're going to
walk and that United Healthcare won't be able to have
any patient seen by any of our six thousand doctors.
So you have to be part of some sort of
larger or entity if you're going to go negotiate with
the insurance companies.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
Yes, and you know what you just described. Everybody the
problem because lost in this entire discussion was discussion about
the patient, was discussion about health care. It's all about
leverage and money and these these corporations, and of course
government and government is getting in the way. And I
believe we ought to be kicking insurance companies and government
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out of our healthcare. Here's a President Trump said on
true Social Well quote. Democrats claim to be working for
the little guy and driving down your health insurance, but
the Obamacare scam goes straight to their best friends in
the insurance industry. They're making a killing while health coverage
only gets worse. If Democrats get their way again, they're
in for another huge payday at the expense of the
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American people. No deal, Republicans should give money directly to
your personal health savings accounts that I expanded in our great, big,
beautiful bill. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
And he includes a chart that shows the growth in
the stock value and the stock prices of these insurance
companies post Obamacare, which is obscene. We're talking about one
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thousand percent increases in stock values of these insurance companies.
United Health Group is the big winner there and then,
but they're all there. Signa Humana ATNA, which by the way,
is pulling out of the exchanges. So my question to you,
doc is what does a world without insurance company copanies
and without government sticking its unwelcome big nose into our
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medical care, what does it look like?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Chris?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
You know it really it can be made so much simpler.
And if we kind of go back to a little
bit the way it was forty and fifty years ago
with a caveat so you have to make medicine where
there's a little bit of competition. So what should happen
is that when when someone's born, you should get a
Social Security number and a health savings account, a tax
free health savings account that your family, your parents can
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start to put money into from a young age. And
instead of thousands of dollars on insurance premiums that really
just go into the pocket of the insurance companies, you
put this into this account that grows over time. It
can be invested, it can it can ride the stock market,
so that by the time you know, you're in your
fifties or sixties or seventies, you could have one hundreds
of thousands of dollars in this account. Now that can
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be used for your routine care. Because really insurance, health
insurance isn't really insurance. It's not like car insurance or
home insurance where you only use the insurance if your
house for doundar if you get into a car accident.
Health insurance is just deferred payment and they're deciding when
and who to pay. So if you have to go
to a US so you have to get a chess
dextrac and the one place charges one hundred dollars, another
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place charges one hundred and forty dollars. Well, if you're
spending your own money, you're going to find where it's cheaper.
And once you've done that, you create competition among health
care providers where everyone's going to compete for your business.
So healthcare becomes cheaper and you can spend your own
money unless you have a catastrophic event. You get an illness,
you need surgery, and you're going to have a catastrophic
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insurance plan, which would be pennies on the dollar, would
probably be a couple one hundred dollars a year to
provide catastrophic insurance in case God forbids you need one
hundred thousand dollars surgery, or you have cancer, you need
chemotherapy R. Something's ridiculously expensive. And then that catastrophic insurance
kicks in.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Yeah, I used to in a former life, I was
in insurance. So I saw what Obama can did to
catastrophic policies, folks, which you had to understand, as catastrophic
policies were cheap, they were inexpensive. They could have taken
all the money that they spent on Obamacare, the trillions
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of dollars they spent in Obamacare, and they could have
bought every American in this country, and they could have
bought several other countries catastrophic loss policies to guard them
against the catastrophic cancer diagnosis or you get hit by
a bus. It was that cheap Obamacare destroyed, destroyed the
catastrophic loss market, and they did it intentionally. So and
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doctor contessas, I want to to give another example. I
think about what you're talking about, because this is a
real world example. I can verify. This is an actual
emergency room bill. And the bill was a total of
six thousand, fifty five dollars and ninety four cents. Right,
that's the er visit bill. Now, because this person was
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cash pay that that six thousand fifty five dollars and
ninety four cents was nearly cut in half to three thousand,
four hundred and eight dollars and forty nine cents. That's
a real verified bill because they decided not to go
through insurance. Isn't the insurance come? Aren't the insurance companies
the entire insurance industry adding a layer of costs that
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Americans can no longer afford.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Most definitely, And I would say you could even negotiate
probably a better price than that. Most hospitals are happy
to have the cash payment. You could probably even get
it lower than that. And once you create the competition
that I'm talking about and they want your business, you'll
see prices drop. You know, competition works in economics one
oh one. You start to compete for business and you'll
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see you know, cost starts that come down. And you
hear it all the time. Where you know, a health
care provider, you know they'll charge the retail prices six
hundred dollars, but they're only getting you know, one hundred
and eighty of that. So what's the whole point of it?
You know, why why are we playing this game? Let's
get back to you know, a retail market where people
are using their own funds. It's just really that simple.
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But the people who are losing out are a very
powerful insurance lobby, and it's going to be very difficult
to make those changes happen fighting against the stream of
those powerful lobbies.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Well, you took me right where I wanted to go,
doctor Frank, Countessessa is our guest right now, Folks, board
certified in turnist, and I want to ask you if,
let's say, there is a ground swell of Americans who
actually get a freaking clue, who actually understand how they're
being manipulated to compromise their health and to path the
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pockets of insurance companies and huge conglomerates in the medical
care industry. The Republicans are being faced right now with
a vote coming up in December to continue throwing massive
more good taxpayer money after bad and massive massive payments
to continue this farce that is Obamacare, which has failed.
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They're going to be asked to vote to triple down
on Obamacare's failure to hide the malfeasance of government. I
have said that any Republican who votes in the affirmative
for this is will be given no quarter you are.
You are with this vote, you are now among the
ranks of the enemy. If you were if you were
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counseling any Republican who was going to vote to continue
these subsidies to hide the cost of health of socialized medicine. Basically,
what would you what would you counsel these Republicans to do?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I'd like to find a group of courageous Republican lawmakers,
a group from the House and a group from the Senate,
get together with people like me and you and they couldn't.
Let's come up with a real plan presented to the
American people in a simple way. Because you know what,
people are smarter than we give them credit for. And
if you if you put it in simple terms like
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we just did, I think you could create that groundswell.
I think you could create that to change the system.
And listen, this is the administration to do it. I mean,
he's already broken down so many barriers and changed so
many things that we just assumed were the only way
to do it. I think if he got a courageous
group of lawmakers from the House and the Senate, it
can be done well.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
With the exception of Rand Paul, it looks like President
Trump is on his own. It's Trump and it's Rand Paul.
Nobody's talking about Obamacare and how much of a failure
it is. Nobody is connecting the dots between a government
that just denied millions of people, illegals and American citizens
alike food, and how stupid it would be of the
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American people to give that same government the power over
our healthcare. I mean, where the rubber meets the road,
isn't that the cautionary tale that not only has this
government proven that it will take food out of people's mouths.
And I'm going to play a SoundBite of Dick Durbin
who admitted yesterday on the Senate floor, the Democrats starved
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children for their politics.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Listen to this.
Speaker 13 (26:05):
Many of my friends are unhappy. They think we should
have kept our government closed indefinitely to protest the policies
of the Trump administration. I share their opinions of this administration,
but cannot accept a strategy which wages political battle at
the expense of my neighbor's paycheck or the food for
its children. Mister President, I yield the floor.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
Would we not doctor be insane as a people to
give a government that has already proven. It will starve
us for its own political gain to give it power
over our healthcare for sure.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
You know, remember the words of Reagan, those scariest words
in the English language are from the government, and I'm
here to help. Government doesn't do things well, they just don't,
you know. And if you have to put this much
money of subsidies, government money, taxpayer money into a program
just to keep it alive, it's clearly not working. It
was never it was really never intended to. The math
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never worked out, it never made any sense. So it's time.
It's time to just tear it up and start from scratch.
But it might be a great opportunity to start over
and create the kind of system that we're talking about.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Doctor Frank Countessessa is a board certified and turnus who
has been providing personalized concierge care to his patients for
over a quarter century. If they if folks out there
want to reach out to you on social media, where
can they go?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
You can find me on x A Dr Frank two
seven to three or on Instagram Dr Frank concent Desto.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
Thanks Doc, appreciate the appreciate the consult Thank you, Chris.
That's going to do it for the Salsato Storm podcast.
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Speaker 7 (00:42):
President Trump issued one of the strongest statements on the
use of the auto pin in the Beijing Biden regime.
As you all may or may not know, Beijing Biden
was in charge of absolutely nothing. Beijing Biden was a
mental incompetent who who was run by Obama handlers, who
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was sheltered from the press, who ran from his basement
and capture the presidency. In the entire four years this
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is of no legal effect. Thank you for your attention
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This includes general White Rage Millie. These individuals are going
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Speaker 2 (02:29):
Now. If only we could do.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
Things like this for Obamacare, I guess I can. I
can state that Obamacare was passed by Congress duly elected
members of Congress, even though they had to they had
to do some shenanigans to deem it passed. There's a
whole bunch of legal challenges in wrangling to that, but
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at any rate, since its passage, you was passed on.
Everything about Obamacare was lies. And I've got to tell you,
folks that Obamacare has been terrible from day one. And
it's not me saying it. Left wing comedians in a
montage that we found online saying it, have a listen.
Speaker 8 (03:16):
Speaking of things that are sucking Obamacare. The government just
announced that next year premiums are going up by twenty
five percent. I haven't seen Obama hat something so high
since she stopped wearing mom jeans. It explains why the
picture on the Obamacare website has gone.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
From this to this.
Speaker 8 (03:40):
So there it is affordable healthcare will just never work
for this country. Insane medical bills are as American as
hot dogs apple pie and the thirty six hundred dollars
hospital bill to remove the hot dog lodged in your
apple pie hole. And it's not the whole you think.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
And Actable Care Act continues to be terrible. First, there
are technical problems with the healthcare dot dov website. Now
comes news that not enough young and healthy Americans are
signing up for coverage, which is crucial for the success
of the program. The way insurance works is you need
all the young, healthy people to pay for insurance and
not use it until they get old and unhealthy. And
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so far, only a quarter of the two point two
million people who signed up for between eighteen and thirty
four twenty four percent. The White House was hoping for
closer to thirty eight percent. Why they would hope.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
That I don't know.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
They expect young people to buy insurance at the same
time the PlayStation four comes out. You know, if you
want young people to sign up, maybe you shouldn't have
made the loss. You can stay on your parents' plan
until you turn twenty six a weeks. What kid is
going to say, you know, no, thanks mom and dad,
I got the premiums covered at the deadline to sign
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up is March thirty first. In my experience of running
at young people to do something, all I have to
do is tell them specifically not to do something right,
or we have ten free lives and candy crush of
the first ten million subscribers. Just to make sure the
younger people do sign up, the Obama administration is rolling
out a new ad campaign that's targeted specifically at the
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young and vibrant.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Hi.
Speaker 9 (05:13):
I'm Alex and this is my wife, Martha, and we're
both approaching the big six to zero, and.
Speaker 10 (05:17):
We have healthcare issues to deal with.
Speaker 9 (05:19):
I take blood pressure medication and lebit yes and Martha's
got beta blockers and something for her osteoporosis.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
It's not cheap, but fortunately we don't have to pay
for it.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Well you do, that's right, you.
Speaker 10 (05:31):
Young people are king for our direct and our douthors not.
Speaker 9 (05:34):
To mention our social security and our medicare when we
retired of Boca and you know why, because you don't
vote we do.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
That's right.
Speaker 11 (05:42):
I hope you enjoyed that burning Guy festival on Martha.
Speaker 9 (05:45):
Let's go find that Levitra Oh the Affordable Care Act
next time. Maybe pick up a newspaper, a.
Speaker 10 (05:51):
Newspaper now here in the States, we're still working out
some of the fine print on our new healthcare system
right now. There's been some talking to the President of
United States. Was less than one hundred percent with some of.
Speaker 9 (06:00):
This healthcare rhetoric.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
If you like your current plan, you will be able
to keep it.
Speaker 10 (06:07):
Didn't you say if we like our current plan, we'll
be able to keep it.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Let me repeat that, if you like your plan, you'll
be able to keep it.
Speaker 11 (06:17):
I thought that was what you said.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
Speaker 11 (06:22):
Want to add any caveats to that, because it sounds
kind of definitive.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
We will keep this promise to the American people. If
you like your doctor, you will be able to keep
your doctor. Period. If you like your healthcare plan, you
will be able to keep your health care plan period bad.
Speaker 10 (06:45):
First of all, I do not think you're supposed to
read the punctuation in the speetures. I'm pretty sure you
sposed this boy.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
And second of all, how would.
Speaker 10 (06:57):
That definitive statement sound postinglementation of said new Healthcare Act
when it has become abundantly clear that you cannot always
keep your plan or your.
Speaker 12 (07:04):
Doctor if you have or had one of these plans
before the Affordable Care Act came in the law and
you really liked that plan, what we said was you
could keep it if it hasn't changed since the laws passed.
Speaker 13 (07:22):
No, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 11 (07:25):
What you kid was you you can keep it period?
Speaker 10 (07:33):
Now what you said?
Speaker 11 (07:33):
What you said there was more like, you can keep
your healthcare plan ellipses comma because it may no longer
meet the minimum requirements, or your insurance company may stop
offering individual plans, or some other odd bureaucratic, unintended offshoot
period emoticon denoting a combination of embarrassment and arrogance.
Speaker 10 (07:57):
Did I do that?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Did I do that? President Erkele? Did do that?
Speaker 7 (08:02):
Folks? We have been dealing with the cancer of Obamacare
ever since it was crammed down our throat, worthless piece
of garbage socialist law by a worthless piece of garbage
socialist political party known as Democrats. And we've got to
find a way out of it or else it's going
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to destroy us. It will destroy healthcare. Well, the finest
healthcare system in the world has already destroyed. How do
we rebuild it? Those are the questions I'm going to
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Speaker 7 (12:17):
Obamacare has failed. Obamacare was constructed to fail. Obamacare was
designed to get you hooked on government spending, to try
to pad the pockets of political constituencies for politicians, and
to enslave you, to condition you to accept government control
over your healthcare. How many of you have fallen for it?
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How many of you have said, oh, yeah, well, you know,
if it's a choice between my premiums going through the
roof and having government swoop in. Folks, They did it
to you with Social Security too. It was just every
bit of scam as Obamacare is. And look, I've got
people that always call me up saying, oh, social Security
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is not an entitlement.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I paid end to that.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
No, you gave money to government on a promise that
government would fulfill its promise. And government broke every promise
with social Security, as they are breaking every promise with Obamacare.
Like your plan, keep your plan, like your doctor, keep
your doctor. An average family afore is going to say
fifteen hundred dollars a year. Never happened, Never will because
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socialism can't succeed. Let's talk to doctor Frank Katasasa. He's
a board certified internist who's been providing personalized concierge care
for his patients for over twenty five years. Preachers lifestyle
and nutrition, folks, rather than drugs and quick fixes.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Doc.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Welcome back, Hey, good morning, Chris. Great toive you with you.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Obamacare just give me a view from thirty thousand feet up.
The results of Obamacare in the medical landscape, well.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Chris has been an absolute disaster. Every promise that was
made has been going back on. We can look at
our own insurance bills and premiums are through the roof.
They've at least doubled. And by the way, the money
is not going to doctors. You know, that's what I think.
People say, I spend so much money on my healthcare,
the doctors must be really making out, and that's not
the case at all. You know, they really the only
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people making out of the insurance companies in the middlemen.
You know, if somebody has a surgery and you know,
they build ten thousand dollars, the surgeon does not get
ten thousand dollars. You might get, you know, six or seven,
eight hundred dollars. So it's just something like that. All
the rest go to the insurance companies in the hospitals
and all of this. So it's been a nightmare. It's
difficult to get services for people trying to get drugs approved,
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or if somebody needs a cascan or an MRI, the
process has become even harder. It affects the way doctors
can practice. It affects the relationship doctors have with their patients,
and it's become corporatized instead of personalized the way it
should be. And that's one of the reasons I kind
of broke with the system and went into sort of
concierge medicine where I can practice more freely and provide
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much better care to my patients. Unfortun it comes with
a price.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
Teck, Well, that's correct. Because you have the deck courtesy
of government. The deck is stacked against you. The deck
is stacked against those who are in private practice. And
again you said, all the goodies go to corporate America,
to the insurance companies, and you get these impersonal, big
conglomerates that are gobbling up private practices. You gave a
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stat to me the other day when I was filling
in for David Harris Junior. That was astonishing. I looked
it up and confirmed it that since Obamacare. When Obamacare
was first implemented, sixty percent of doctors were in private practice.
That's down to forty two percent now, a twenty percent drop.
And that's because of Obamacare and the government working to
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destroy one sixth of the US economy.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Correct, that's right, Chris. You know what happens, and this
happened to me. Earlier in my career. I had a
private practice with a partner, you know, just old school
out of you know, basically my partner's house with a
shingle out front. You can't do that anymore because after
a few years we were part of a small group.
The small group grew into a bigger group. The big
group got gobbled up by a large conglomerate corporation. And
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you know, for a little while it's okay, but it
turns into a numbers game. They grow statistics that well,
you're not getting enough of these units. You're not put
doing it out enough prog I was working, I was
seeing up to I had four thousand patients in my practice.
I was seeing twenty five to thirty office visits a day.
It's very difficult to provide proper care when you're seeing
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thirty people a day, so they make it almost impossible,
and they keep making you chase these bonuses that they've thrown. Well,
we'll give you a little bit more if you can
just see more people, But then the quality suffers. Like
I said, the only way out is to go into
really private medicine and divorce yourself from the system. But
they have stacked the deck against primary care. They've stacked
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it against being in private practice. If you're not affiliated
with a big company, then you also can't negotiate with
the ship's companies. So, for example, if United Healthcare tends
to pay you, let's let's say one hundred and ten
dollars for an office visit, Well, if i'm you know,
doctor Frank Incorporated, I go to say, United, you know
that's really not enough that can you give you like
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one hundred and forty per visit? They're like, no, if
you don't like it, then just don't take United health Care.
But a corporation can go in and say, hey, we
have six thousand doctors in our corporation. You're going to
pay us one hundred and forty or we're going to
walk and that United Healthcare won't be able to have
any patient seen by any of our six thousand doctors.
So you have to be part of some sort of
larger or entity if you're going to go negotiate with
the insurance companies.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
Yes, and you know what you just described. Everybody the
problem because lost in this entire discussion was discussion about
the patient, was discussion about health care. It's all about
leverage and money and these these corporations, and of course
government and government is getting in the way. And I
believe we ought to be kicking insurance companies and government
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out of our healthcare. Here's a President Trump said on
true Social Well quote. Democrats claim to be working for
the little guy and driving down your health insurance, but
the Obamacare scam goes straight to their best friends in
the insurance industry. They're making a killing while health coverage
only gets worse. If Democrats get their way again, they're
in for another huge payday at the expense of the
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American people. No deal, Republicans should give money directly to
your personal health savings accounts that I expanded in our great, big,
beautiful bill. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
And he includes a chart that shows the growth in
the stock value and the stock prices of these insurance
companies post Obamacare, which is obscene. We're talking about one
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thousand percent increases in stock values of these insurance companies.
United Health Group is the big winner there and then,
but they're all there. Signa Humana ATNA, which by the way,
is pulling out of the exchanges. So my question to you,
doc is what does a world without insurance company copanies
and without government sticking its unwelcome big nose into our
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medical care, what does it look like?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Chris?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
You know it really it can be made so much simpler.
And if we kind of go back to a little
bit the way it was forty and fifty years ago
with a caveat so you have to make medicine where
there's a little bit of competition. So what should happen
is that when when someone's born, you should get a
Social Security number and a health savings account, a tax
free health savings account that your family, your parents can
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start to put money into from a young age. And
instead of thousands of dollars on insurance premiums that really
just go into the pocket of the insurance companies, you
put this into this account that grows over time. It
can be invested, it can it can ride the stock market,
so that by the time you know, you're in your
fifties or sixties or seventies, you could have one hundreds
of thousands of dollars in this account. Now that can
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be used for your routine care. Because really insurance, health
insurance isn't really insurance. It's not like car insurance or
home insurance where you only use the insurance if your
house for doundar if you get into a car accident.
Health insurance is just deferred payment and they're deciding when
and who to pay. So if you have to go
to a US so you have to get a chess
dextrac and the one place charges one hundred dollars, another
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place charges one hundred and forty dollars. Well, if you're
spending your own money, you're going to find where it's cheaper.
And once you've done that, you create competition among health
care providers where everyone's going to compete for your business.
So healthcare becomes cheaper and you can spend your own
money unless you have a catastrophic event. You get an illness,
you need surgery, and you're going to have a catastrophic
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insurance plan, which would be pennies on the dollar, would
probably be a couple one hundred dollars a year to
provide catastrophic insurance in case God forbids you need one
hundred thousand dollars surgery, or you have cancer, you need
chemotherapy R. Something's ridiculously expensive. And then that catastrophic insurance
kicks in.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Yeah, I used to in a former life, I was
in insurance. So I saw what Obama can did to
catastrophic policies, folks, which you had to understand, as catastrophic
policies were cheap, they were inexpensive. They could have taken
all the money that they spent on Obamacare, the trillions
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of dollars they spent in Obamacare, and they could have
bought every American in this country, and they could have
bought several other countries catastrophic loss policies to guard them
against the catastrophic cancer diagnosis or you get hit by
a bus. It was that cheap Obamacare destroyed, destroyed the
catastrophic loss market, and they did it intentionally. So and
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doctor contessas, I want to to give another example. I
think about what you're talking about, because this is a
real world example. I can verify. This is an actual
emergency room bill. And the bill was a total of
six thousand, fifty five dollars and ninety four cents. Right,
that's the er visit bill. Now, because this person was
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cash pay that that six thousand fifty five dollars and
ninety four cents was nearly cut in half to three thousand,
four hundred and eight dollars and forty nine cents. That's
a real verified bill because they decided not to go
through insurance. Isn't the insurance come? Aren't the insurance companies
the entire insurance industry adding a layer of costs that
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Americans can no longer afford.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Most definitely, And I would say you could even negotiate
probably a better price than that. Most hospitals are happy
to have the cash payment. You could probably even get
it lower than that. And once you create the competition
that I'm talking about and they want your business, you'll
see prices drop. You know, competition works in economics one
oh one. You start to compete for business and you'll
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see you know, cost starts that come down. And you
hear it all the time. Where you know, a health
care provider, you know they'll charge the retail prices six
hundred dollars, but they're only getting you know, one hundred
and eighty of that. So what's the whole point of it?
You know, why why are we playing this game? Let's
get back to you know, a retail market where people
are using their own funds. It's just really that simple.
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But the people who are losing out are a very
powerful insurance lobby, and it's going to be very difficult
to make those changes happen fighting against the stream of
those powerful lobbies.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Well, you took me right where I wanted to go,
doctor Frank, Countessessa is our guest right now, Folks, board
certified in turnist, and I want to ask you if,
let's say, there is a ground swell of Americans who
actually get a freaking clue, who actually understand how they're
being manipulated to compromise their health and to path the
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pockets of insurance companies and huge conglomerates in the medical
care industry. The Republicans are being faced right now with
a vote coming up in December to continue throwing massive
more good taxpayer money after bad and massive massive payments
to continue this farce that is Obamacare, which has failed.
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They're going to be asked to vote to triple down
on Obamacare's failure to hide the malfeasance of government. I
have said that any Republican who votes in the affirmative
for this is will be given no quarter you are.
You are with this vote, you are now among the
ranks of the enemy. If you were if you were
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counseling any Republican who was going to vote to continue
these subsidies to hide the cost of health of socialized medicine. Basically,
what would you what would you counsel these Republicans to do?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I'd like to find a group of courageous Republican lawmakers,
a group from the House and a group from the Senate,
get together with people like me and you and they couldn't.
Let's come up with a real plan presented to the
American people in a simple way. Because you know what,
people are smarter than we give them credit for. And
if you if you put it in simple terms like
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we just did, I think you could create that groundswell.
I think you could create that to change the system.
And listen, this is the administration to do it. I mean,
he's already broken down so many barriers and changed so
many things that we just assumed were the only way
to do it. I think if he got a courageous
group of lawmakers from the House and the Senate, it
can be done well.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
With the exception of Rand Paul, it looks like President
Trump is on his own. It's Trump and it's Rand Paul.
Nobody's talking about Obamacare and how much of a failure
it is. Nobody is connecting the dots between a government
that just denied millions of people, illegals and American citizens
alike food, and how stupid it would be of the
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American people to give that same government the power over
our healthcare. I mean, where the rubber meets the road,
isn't that the cautionary tale that not only has this
government proven that it will take food out of people's mouths.
And I'm going to play a SoundBite of Dick Durbin
who admitted yesterday on the Senate floor, the Democrats starved
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children for their politics.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Listen to this.
Speaker 13 (26:05):
Many of my friends are unhappy. They think we should
have kept our government closed indefinitely to protest the policies
of the Trump administration. I share their opinions of this administration,
but cannot accept a strategy which wages political battle at
the expense of my neighbor's paycheck or the food for
its children. Mister President, I yield the floor.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
Would we not doctor be insane as a people to
give a government that has already proven. It will starve
us for its own political gain to give it power
over our healthcare for sure.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
You know, remember the words of Reagan, those scariest words
in the English language are from the government, and I'm
here to help. Government doesn't do things well, they just don't,
you know. And if you have to put this much
money of subsidies, government money, taxpayer money into a program
just to keep it alive, it's clearly not working. It
was never it was really never intended to. The math
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never worked out, it never made any sense. So it's time.
It's time to just tear it up and start from scratch.
But it might be a great opportunity to start over
and create the kind of system that we're talking about.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Doctor Frank Countessessa is a board certified and turnus who
has been providing personalized concierge care to his patients for
over a quarter century. If they if folks out there
want to reach out to you on social media, where
can they go?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
You can find me on x A Dr Frank two
seven to three or on Instagram Dr Frank concent Desto.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
Thanks Doc, appreciate the appreciate the consult Thank you, Chris.
That's going to do it for the Salsato Storm podcast.
If you have not done so already, folks, pick up
the brand new book, The Rise of the Liberty Loving Latino.
It is out in bookstores December ninth. You can pick
up a copy on pre order and save yourself some
money and remember this until we visit again. A society's
(27:55):
worth isn't measured by how much power is stolen find
out of control government. A society's worth is measured by
how much power is reserved for you and me, we
the people. You keep fighting for freedom out there, my friends,
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