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December 15, 2025 75 mins
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Chris & Sean talk about the evolution of radio and media as Chris blasts fake-Republicans in Indiana. 
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, I'm you happy? Keep books? Neil Smith and old
Buck Buddy. Are you hearing Neil?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Neil? I miss you, man. I have a question. We
respect for.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Me down breaking a major story. Chris, congratulations score podcast. Well,

(00:42):
I'm not gonna lie. I was incredibly disappointed. Actually disappointed
is the wrong word. I was angry, ticked off. You know,
I think I told this story on the podcast before
I know, I've told it on radio and television. You
guys remember Barack Hussein Obama and his first months in office.
His rhetoric was so convincing, so soaring. I actually dared

(01:06):
to believe for a moment that he could actually fulfill
some of the promises that he maybe transcended politics. I
believed him for about a month until he just proved
to be another Marxist, a rank and file Marxist, anti American, kook,
freaking nut. And at that point, his betrayal of our nation,

(01:27):
his betrayal of everything American, it stung even greater. It
made my anger even greater, because why I dared to
believe that he was something that was transformational. He actually
believed in his own in his own propaganda. I guess

(01:47):
for lack of a better term, because there was there
was never anything there with Barack Hussein Obama. He was
a media fabrication, a fabrication in his own mind. So
for me, when those who we come to rely on
those who we trust betray us, it makes the betrayal

(02:08):
in my mind anyway a thousand times worse. Some will say,
you know, murder is murder, or a crime is a crime.
You know, it doesn't matter. Some people say this in
the argument against this idea of a hate crime. You
killed somebody. Oh, but it's worse because you were hateful
when you were doing it. And it's like I dead

(02:29):
is dead, right, A lot of people say that dead
is dead. And a lot of people will say, well,
if somebody wrongs you, somebody wrongs you, it doesn't matter
what their intent is. You were wrong to me, at
least on this particular metric, this measure. When somebody wrongs me,
who won my trust? That's when I really get ticked off.

(02:52):
And when the Indiana Republicans in the Senate, when they
killed a straightforward, clean redistricting map in Indiana that would
have yielded two extra Republican seats in in furtherance of
keeping leftists out of power so they can't harm us anymore.

(03:12):
I really got angry because it was a betrayal. And
you know what they did it for. According to reports,
these fake Republicans did it for campaign cash, so they
could go out there and campaign and tell us how
great they are after they just shoved the dagger into
our backs, all on this premise that, oh, yes, you

(03:36):
can vote Republican or Democrat. They're all Americans. No, it's
not the case anymore. And those who are in the
Republican Party who want to pave the way to make
sure that Democrats can continue to harm me in mine,
you are my enemy. Those Indiana Senate Republicans are the
enemy in my opinion of me, my family, this country,

(03:59):
this state of Texas, and which I'm broadcasting. They are
an enemy. Why because they wanted to put Democrats in
charge of our lives. That's just how I see it.
And folks, it's it goes so deep, and I think,
if we want to go back to Obama, one of
the first betrayals was this imposition of socialized medicine in Obamacare.

(04:24):
We put together a montage on the Salsado Show on Newsmax.
I put this together I guess it was last week.
This is Jonathan Gruber. Folks, this is the cat, the
kind of person that these fake Republicans are defending. How
many of you remember the lies, the disdain these leftists

(04:48):
had when they were lying about Obamacare, shoving Obamacare down
our throats. And these are the people that Indiana Senate
Republicans wanted to empower over us. Let's just take a
walk down Amnesia Lane, shell Way, because a lot of
Americans have forgotten the treachery of these socialists in these
Marxist you know what, I haven't listen.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
There's a third video that emerged today featuring Mit economist
Jonathan Gruber, one of the architects of Obamacare, suggesting, in
his view, the voter's lack of sophistication helped Obamacare supporters
push the bill through this quote. I'm going to play
for you. This bite is about taxing insurance companies with
the knowledge that those costs would be passed on to
the consumer. Let's play that sound.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
We just tax the insurance companies, they passed it on
higher prices.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
That offsets the tax break we get.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
It ends up being the same thing. It's the very
clever you know basic exploitation of the of the of
the lack of economic understanding the American voter. This bill
was written in an incursured way to make sure CBO
did not score. The mandate is Paxice' debus for the
mandate taxes to build buy okay, so's written to do that.
Just like how people transparency, lack of transparency is a

(05:57):
huge political advantage. He made it explicit the healthy to
see people get money.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
It would not have passed.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
It's crazy, absolutely crazy, these people would do this to us,
And I've got to be honest with you, folks. I
have no patience I have as a Christian, I shouldn't
say this. I can't say I don't forgive them. I'm

(06:24):
not going to forget what they did. At some point,
if I'm able to stop the harm, if I'm able
to stop the destruction of our country and our people,
then perhaps one day I can forgive them. But I
will never forget. I can't forget who and what these

(06:47):
people are. And I can't forget that everybody has known
from the very beginning who and what these people are.
You guys, I think I played this a few weeks back,
but it bears repat. This is a comedian montage, and
this is as you know, a lot of left wingers
in this country, they get their news and information from

(07:08):
these these kook left wing comedians. There's no excuse. They
won't be able to tell us, folks, these Democrat voters,
these socialist voters, these fake Republicans who are enabling these
these democrat leftists and socialists. They will never be able
to say, well, we didn't know, we didn't know. These

(07:28):
were the comedians that were commenting. Who were commenting, I
should say, alleged comedians who were commenting on Barack Hussein
Obama's imposition of socialized medicine and the complicity of the
Democrats in ruining one sixth of the US economy and
the greatest healthcare system in the world.

Speaker 6 (07:47):
Listen, speaking of things that are sucking Obamacare, the government
just announced that next year premiums are going up by
twenty five percent. I haven't seen Obama takes something so
high since you stopped wearing mom jeans. It explains why
the picture on the Obamacare website has gone from this to.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
This the Hindenburg.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
So there it is.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
Affordable healthcare will just never work for this country. Insane
medical bills are as American as hot dogs apple pie
and the thirty six hundred dollars hospital bill to remove
the hot dog lodged in your apple pie hole and
not the whole you think.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
And a Portable Care Act continues to be terrible. First
there were technical problems with the healthcare dot doub website.
Now comes news that not enough young and healthy Americans
are signing up for coverage, which is crucial for the
success of the program.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
And the way insurance works.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
Is you need all the young, healthy people to pay
for insurance and not use it until they get old
and unhealthy. And so far only a quarter of the
two point two million people is signed up for between
eighteen and thirty four twenty four percent. The White House
was home hoping for closer to thirty eight percent. Why
they would hope that, I know they expect young people
to buy insurance at the same time.

Speaker 7 (09:06):
The PlayStation four comes out.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
You know, if you want young people to sign up,
maybe you shouldn't have made the lass. You can stay
on your parents' plan until you turn twenty six. A
week one kid is going to say, you know, no,
thanks Mom and dad, I got the premiums cover nowt.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
The deadline to sign up is March thirty first.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
In my experience of when you get young people to
do something, all you have to do is tell them
specifically not to do something right, or give ten free
lives in candy.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Crush to the first ten million to five.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Just to make sure younger people do sign up, the
Obama administration is rolling out a new ad campaign that's
targeted specifically at the young and vibrant.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Hi.

Speaker 7 (09:45):
I'm Alex and this is my wife, Martha, and we're
both approaching the big six to zero.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
And we have healthcare issues to deal with.

Speaker 7 (09:51):
I thake blood pressure medication, yes, and Martha's.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Got beta blockers and something for her osteoporosis. It's not cheap.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Unfortunately, we don't have to pay for it.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Well you do.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
That's right, You young people are paying for our thurbat and.

Speaker 7 (10:06):
Our doctors, not to mention our social security and our
medicare when we retired of Boca and you know why.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Because you don't vote and we do. That's right. I
hope you enjoyed that Burning Guy festival on Martha.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Let's go find that levitra.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Oh.

Speaker 7 (10:20):
The Affordable Care Act next time, maybe pick up a
newspaper asaper.

Speaker 8 (10:25):
Now hear in the States, we're still working out some
of the fine princh on our new healthcare system right now.
There's been some talking to the President United States was
less than a hundred percent honest with some of.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
His healthcare rhetoric.

Speaker 7 (10:34):
If you like your current plan, you will be able.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
To keep it.

Speaker 8 (10:39):
Didn't you say if we like our current plan, we'll
be able to keep it.

Speaker 7 (10:43):
Let me repeat that, if you like your plan, you'll
be able to keep it.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
I thought that was what you said.

Speaker 7 (10:52):
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

Speaker 8 (10:54):
Want to add any caveats to that because it sounds
kind of definitive.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
We will keep this promise.

Speaker 7 (11:01):
To the American people. If you like your doctor, you
will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you
like your healthcare plan, you will be able to keep
your health care plan.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Period.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Bad.

Speaker 8 (11:17):
First of all, I do not think you're supposed to
read the punctuation in this feature.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
I'm pretty sure you're supposed to just like that sum
for about it. And second of all, how would that.

Speaker 8 (11:30):
Definitive statement found post implementation of said new Healthcare Act
when it has become abundantly clear that you cannot always
keep your plan or your.

Speaker 7 (11:37):
Doctor if you have or had one of these plans
before the Affordable Care Act came in the law, and
you really liked that plan. What we said was you
could keep it if it hasn't changed since Wall's passed.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
No no, no, no no no.

Speaker 9 (11:57):
What you kid was.

Speaker 8 (12:00):
You you can keep it.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Period.

Speaker 8 (12:05):
Now what you said, what you said there was more like,
you can keep your healthcare plan ellipses comma because it
may no longer meet the minimum requirements, or your insurance
company may stop offering individual plans or some other odd
bureaucractic unintended offshoot period emoticon, denoting a combination of embarrassment

(12:26):
and arrogance.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Did I do that? Did I do that? President Erkele
did that? And what has you know John Stewart gone
on to do since that? That airing all those left
wing comedians, they have defended socialists and Marxists. They've they've
looked the other way to make sure the very same

(12:51):
people that lied to impose socialized medicine on this country
ruin one sixth of the US economy, destroy the greatest
healthcare system in the world. They look the other way
and allowed them to continue to do all that harm. So, folks,
I don't know where you are, let me tell you
where I am. Here's where I am. I have no patience,

(13:11):
no forgiveness, no quarter to these individuals who sat there
joked about the destruction of our lives at the hands
of these leftists and Marxists that sold this destruction. And
it's not just healthcare, it's everything that they do on lies.
And then that like these Republicans, these fake Republicans in

(13:32):
Indiana turn us over, sell us out for campaign cash
to these very same people doing all of this destruction.
I am done. I am absolutely done. And I brought
this up on the radio show last week, and I
think it's it's something that I don't think these these
fake Republicans and these leftists understand. They're playing with fire.

(13:57):
All over social media. You're hearing rumblings of a civil war.
And it's not going to be liberals versus conservatives. It's
not going to be Republicans versus Democrats. It's going to
be the masses against a bunch of Charlatans, a bunch
of crooks who have whether they be in the biased press,

(14:21):
whether they be in government whether they be these left
wing extremists who tried to sell us out using our
own damn money and our own damn country. And I've
got people talking out there on social media about civil war.
I would love to avoid all that, and we can
if we stop giving these people power over us. Remember, folks,

(14:43):
the criteria that I'm going to be using I think
you should be using too, coming into the next election
is simple. The primary election. How well have you defended
me and mine from left wing extremists. Now, these Senate
Republicans in Indiana, these lose these nut jobs that they

(15:03):
have not done anything to protect their voters. They've sold
out their voters. So every single one of them deserves
to be out on their ass, that's my opinion. And
not all of them are up for re election this
primary season, but those who are should be gone. That's
if our people are paying attention. And that's the sad thing.

(15:25):
I don't know that we are. I don't know that
so many of us aren't out there just so wrapped
up on our own lives that we don't even realize
those who are stabbing us in the back what the
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Speaker 2 (19:16):
Man.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
We're counting down. What have we got when? This will
air ten days until the Big Man makes not You
the Santa Claus makes his appearance on Christmas Day.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, I'm not. I haven't been feeling too Christmas y yet,
so I'm looking forward to getting into the season. I'm
going to see my mother and my sisters in Washington State,
so that'll be good.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, well, you know nothing, the grand babies would cure that.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
You know, the grand babies will be in Florida at
Disney World visiting Carolyn's brother.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
I see, Okay, So I'm just saying there's nothing that.
I was at a Christmas party last night and I
got to actually I held a baby. I've held a
baby since my own children, but actually fed this baby,
which is the first time I've given a baby a bottle.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
In eighteen Well I thought you meant breastfed, shut up dude.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Eighteen years. Yeah, eighteen years. And it's like, oh man,
I'm starting to think about that time in my life
where maybe grand children in the future. And then I
kind of got excited about Christmas because as I get older,
it's getting a little more difficult to get into the season,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, I mean it's probably a little easier for you. You
have family around, you have somebody to go look at
lights with, you have, you know, somebody to sit there
and watch stupid Christmas movies with. But I do not,
so it's a little tougher for me to get into
that kind of stuff. I didn't really enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Did it invite you to Thanksgiving? You could have?

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
I so appreciate it. I know that was.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
No.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
I enjoyed my day watching a hit on football, So yeah,
exactly it was good. And and in your underwear, in
my underwear, and and stuff like that. Is especially Thanksgiving,
I think, is so family oriented. Sure that I would
have felt out of place and intrusive in that well.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
You know what, what you wouldn't have and because you know, buddy,
you're just well no.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
I mean, you can't control my feeling. Well, I know,
but you wouldn't be as accommodating as possible, right, But
I'm still going to feel that way just because I'm me.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Ye, well, you know what I will. I will say
that at the the aforementioned Christmas party, we made out
like bandits. We had the gift exchange, so my wife
got a a one of those Bluetooth speakers, which is
you know, they're getting cooler and cooler and better sounding
every day. And then I and let me tell you

(21:58):
what happened at this this party. There was there were
eight prizes, and the way you would give away the
prizes is everybody got one hundred dollars in virtual cash,
and they had this app that has horse races on it,
and then everybody bets and then you see the odds
of the horses, and then the host pushes play and

(22:20):
you project it up onto your TV screen and it's
a freaking race. I mean, it's it's already happened, right.
They just put these colors on these horses, then match
the colors on the match the colors on your app,
and there's actually horse racing going on six races, ran
one hundred dollars of virtual cash and whoever has the

(22:40):
most at the end prizes won through eight right, you
know what, I picked up an Apple Watch.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Wow, Okay, an.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Apple Watch, dude. I was like over the moon. That
was really cool. So very I've had a wonderful Christmas
season so far, and you know, I'm still I'm I'm
not still feeling it, although it did get a dipped
down into the thirties last night, so now at least
the weather's cooperating.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
So yeah, no, I love Christmas time. It's my It's
also my mother's birthday, right, and so yeah, Christmas has
always been really special. And thinking back to kids, man,
I mean my dad was a cop in the seventies
with four kids, so he didn't make hardly anything, but
we always had, you know, quite the bounty under the tree.

(23:29):
It was. It was pretty amazing. And they would always,
you know, forewarn is that this year is going to
be kind of tough, so just be prepared. And then
you'd we had a basement in Colorado and you'd walk
downstairs and it's just halfway across the room filled with presents,
you know, yeah, and amazing, just amazing. I don't know

(23:49):
how they did it.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
What was the what was the best? The best Christmas
you can remember as a kid, and the gift you got, like,
oh my gosh, I can't believe I got this.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
I don't really have anything like that. I mean, nothing
super special, because it was also super special. It just
that awe of walking down and seeing how many presents
there were and realizing how much my mom and dad

(24:23):
must have struggled to do that. You know. Yeah, so
I don't. I mean, cars and motorcycles have been my
fascination my whole life. So that was pretty much cars
and bicycles and motorcycles and tools and stuff like that

(24:43):
is all stuff I've got. You know. One of the
funny I mentioned tools because one of the more memorable
ones was when I was adult, probably she's man thirty
five or so and five.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, I have you know, worked my in my garage
out of little toolboxes, piles of tools, you know, you know,
disorganized sets or mismatched stuff. Yeah. Well my folks got
me a really nice, big, tall, three cabinet craftsmen toolbox.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
That was pretty cool, you know.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
I there there were one gift I remember one Christmas
where the wife and I did really really well, and
so we got our our family members. This is when
when these were all the rage. Uh remember when Costco
was selling those outdoor heaters that were run by you know,
pro paane tanks and so i, and they were like
some of like six hundred and seven hundred bucks at

(25:50):
the time, it was They're pretty expensive, but they were cool.
And then you know you could actually put a heater
up outside and be and be comfortable with those those radiant.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Heater put rage.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, yeah, I said, well, yeah, I mean about a
three foot around that. I mean you could you could
cover a table of people sitting down anyway. So that
that was one of the greatest gift giving that when
the family were like, oh my gosh, I can't believe
we got this. When I was twelve, twelve or thirteen,
I got a stereo, my first stereo, and that's that

(26:23):
was like the best Christmas because you know, I was
either had a walkman or you know, a boom box
that I that I was playing all my stuff on,
but this one was a full blown turntable and tape
cassette at the time. That was cutting edge at the time,
and speakers and I had my own stereo. I remember that.

(26:45):
I remember under the tree going, oh my gosh, best
Christmas ever.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah. Yeah, it's just I love the season, and I
am very mushy when it comes to things like driving
around and see the Christmas lights. I mean, you you
live far from in a lot more. Yeah. One of
the more famous ones in Texas the Interlocking Community where
nearly every house does something and you're in line in

(27:10):
your car for four hours as you make your way
through the whole entire neighborhood. And and it's real well done,
and they have traffic under control, and it's pretty cool.
And a lot of the people who decorate their houses
are out there with you know, hot chocolate or candies
or whatever, just hanging out and enjoying that you're coming

(27:32):
to see their house. So yeah, we do that. It's fun.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
I told Christina that I wanted to when when everybody
came home, wanted to get the girls together and and
get out and do something like that and look at that.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, it's it's a blast. I enjoy it. I do
it every I've had the opportunity to do it every
two three years, and it's it's really fun.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, enjoy it. Well, what's going on in your days, man?

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah? Just working. And just last week we had a
huge order of three hundred and thirty parts and and
and two trips to Garland. Oh my god, dude, I
haven't had to drive past the great Wall of three
sixty in almost two years.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Well, you're gonna have to explain to some of the
folks who are out of our geographic area what the
hell that means.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Everybody knows DFW.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Right, Dallas was fort Worth.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yes, they could not be more different. It is just
two completely different vibes.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Which ones do you prefer?

Speaker 2 (28:37):
I prefer the fort Worth side. So I am much
more laid back and rural. And even though fort Worth
is a huge town, I'm not, you know, in fort Worth.
I'm a fort Worth adjacent.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
But I'm fort Worth adjacent.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, I'm out in the country. I'm in Parker County. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Make it sound like some sort of condition. I'm not
fort Worth, I'm fort Worth adjacent, right.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
But yeah, and so three sixty is kind of the
dividing highway in between Terran County and Dallas County.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, folks, but you got to know three sixty runs
north south north, south. Yeah, yeah, wud you got three
sixty running north south. You've got I twenty and I yes,
I thirty, I twenty running east west, and they bisected
and it kind of defined, kind of is the dividing
line between the Fort Worth side of the Metroplex and
the Dallas side of the Metroplex.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah, so there you go. So I haven't had cause
to go east of three sixty for a very long time, right,
And we had some parts that needed to get out
in a rush, some very very expensive parts. So we
needed to get them out to get paid. And so

(29:58):
I had to go to Garland, which was, according to
the map on my phone, hour forty five minutes from
my house.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Damn, damn.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
And it was basically go there, drop them off on Wednesday,
and then go there and then drive back to the
shop and can.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
That's how big DFW is, by the way, Yeah, from
one end of the other. You're you're spending two hours
on the road. That's how big the Metroplex is.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
It's always crazy to me that. Oh and I wasn't
even out of the Metroplex. I mean, you know, it
just I was just on the edge of it. But
it's always amazed me that this is just one radio market,
one TV market where you know, like in Washington, d C.
And Baltimore they're about the same distance apart, two totally

(30:44):
different markets. Yeah, you know, all up and down California,
all different markets. But anyway, yeah, so just four hours
in Dallas traffic and I was spent this week, plus
the other parts that I was working on, had to
get out and got all those done, and so it's

(31:07):
all good, but it was it was kind of an
exhausting week and then we'll work this week.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Is it the traffic that bugs you or is it.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Just yeah, I mean four hours in a car drug
in traffic, just it'll just wear you out.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
You know.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
That's that's half a day's drive and I haven't gone anywhere.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, you know, And that's the most exasperating part because
you think it even though you were doing something productive,
it's just like.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Man, I can't well, I didn't have anything to look
forward to at the end of the trip, right, well exactly. Yeah.
Normally if you're driving four hours, you're on vacation and
you know you're gonna be in the bad lands of
New Mexico, so enjoying something like that. Yeah, but no,
not so much. And so it will work this week.

(31:58):
I think we got quite a few things backed up,
but then next week it pretty much shuts down until
the end of the year. So I which is nice,
you know, to have the break, but when you don't
work and don't get paid, it's gonna be a tough one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah, I hear that. I hear that, And you know
what it's It just seems to be the case at
least the last couple of years with me. Where Christmas
time when a you're spending a lot of money, but
that's when when things start to break. Have you noticed
that that Maybe it's just my imagination, Maybe I'm just
oversensit to it, because you can over sense that to
it because you see money flying out the door for gifts, right,

(32:42):
and then all of a sudden things start come and
do you know yeah, yeah, and it's just like wait
a minute. It's like, oh man, this is this is
the time where I actually set aside some money for gifts.
But that's when a whole bunch of other stuff either
starts breaking or I got to spend money on stuff
I wasn't anticipating spending money on. And it's like I
guess it's good all around for everybody, because, uh, you

(33:04):
got to get certain things, you got to get repaired,
certain things you've got to get done. So you know, well,
I'm glad to hear that that you you actually can
appreciate not having to make that commute every day. You know,
maybe since it's been over a year or a year
and a half now, since since then in March, if

(33:27):
you had the and and there's a reason why I'm
asking this, which will come become clear to the audience
and in due course, but do you ever find yourself
going you know, if you could go back, would.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
You if I mean yes, if I could go back.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Just to what you were doing, not not not to
just what I was doing, just to what you were doing. Yeah,
the situation you left, could you if you were offered
to go back to it, would you go No?

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Not for I mean if they wanted to double my pay,
then I would think about it.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
That's the definition of not nothing nothing changes, you just
go back.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
No. I was, I was as depressed as I could
possibly be without being diagnosed clinically depressed, which I which
I probably could have been.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
You probably could have been.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, you know, had I gone to see somebody. I
had never been so down in all my life where
I would just wake up scream the F word, knowing
that I had to go some place that I hated,
surrounded by people that I hated.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, you know, And that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
I mean. If I could go back to two thousand
and five, when I was on the morning show, We're
writing comedy, I had friends, hell yeah, because it was
the best part of my life, you know, it was,
it was incredible, But then it all changed.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
I've had the privilege of being part of founding crews
for for two startups, and they were so unique and
it's nothing that has been replicated before or since. And
when when you when you've been part of something that's
that special, it's you know that all expression, you can't

(35:22):
go home again. It's so true, It's so true, you
just can't. It's you strike gold. You're lucky to strike
gold once in a career, and I've I've been lucky
enough to strike gold twice. And when when that happens
to you and then you watch it all go to pot,
it it does something to you, It really does it.

(35:44):
Disappointment doesn't even quite cover the range of emotion that
happens because it's it is like, and I guess the
closest equivalent I can say is you go, man, this
could have been something so damn special, and it's like,
it's like a missed opportunity, right, and nothing feels worse

(36:05):
than that, Nothing feels worse than that. And you know,
and you had it for thirty years, right, well, maybe
not thirty years, but I mean no, I.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Was at WBA for for thirty years. I mean the
first couple were part time, and then I finally got
on full time and I was on the morning show
for twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Twenty five years, wow, and.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Then two years of just misery.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
You know, you know, all things considered, dude, I gotta
be honest. Even though as much as how tragic it
was the way it ended in our business, it is
so out of the realm of what you struck for
twenty five years, I don't know that it's ever happened

(36:55):
to me that long. Yeah, right, what I what I
described was by Paris and a flash in the pan,
and it was it was wonderful while it lasted, but man,
alive to and no wonder you were so depressed when
you lost it.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yeah, right, Yeah, because I got to see other people
enjoying what I was doing. Other people who I don't
feel had the talent that I had, certainly not the
relationships that I had with the you know, the host
and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Well did they really enjoy it or was it just
I mean, seriously, you.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Know I was thinking about that.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
That chemistry is you can't buy that.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
No, But I mean, but so the day I got fired,
they posted the job for part time, no benefits nine
to fifty an hour. Wow, that's how much it was worth.
I guess. Yeah. So, I mean, what I was making

(37:58):
was not breaking the bank and guarantee to you, and
so it's just it's just shocking that that's what they
did see.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
But what I'm my point when asking you that was
you had something that was unique. It was special. And
again those of us in our business that have been
privileged enough to experience that. For all you folks out
there have never been in media, just let me tell
you when you find something like that, when you click
and you guys are you guys are putting out magic

(38:31):
on the either radio or on the television, and it
just all clicks. It's so unique and maybe you know
maybe it isn't just just in in in television or media.
Whenever you find that in any working situation where your
day will you get up and it's not work, you
look forward to seeing the people you work with. Yeah,

(38:51):
and and you love what you do, and that that's
when it stops becoming work. And that's and I don't
think Sean, when you said you watch other people, you know,
well what you do say.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
To finish that thought was, I was the people that
took my jobs over are still there. And one of
them is a young kid. He's been there, you know,
probably four years now, and I was just thinking that
he's all gung ho and he's, you know, doing what
I was doing, like where he used to be, And

(39:28):
in thirty years they're going to do the exact same
thing to him. Oh and he's going to be like, well,
what the hell, I'm not making any money? Why am
I getting fired when I'm doing my job?

Speaker 1 (39:43):
You know? And that that was my whole point in
asking you, is because the status of not just where
you used to work, folks, I can tell you the
status of media in general is in flux. And I
don't know that they're is that there is a place
out there right now. Certainly, sean that experienced that has

(40:06):
any close to the experience that you are, that you
had experience for twenty five years, I don't think it
exists right now, in particular where in the old realms.
I'm not saying it's not out there. I'm just saying
in the in the corporate media environment that we're in today,
I'm fairly confident it doesn't exist.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah. I mean there's still a few guys here in
town Hawkeye from ninety six three KSCS. I mean, he's
been there for thirty years, and the guys at the
ticket they've been there for a long time. But other
than that, you know, you think back, especially if you've
lived in different communities, that there were guys that you

(40:48):
got up to listen to on the radio. You know,
there were guys that were your friends. You thought that
that drove you to work every day and just had
a great time. And I just don't hear that any more.
With a very few examples. Yeah, And it's sad. It's
sad to me because I think radio is still so

(41:10):
important and I I haven't fully gotten on board with
the Spotify's or with the podcasts or the audio books
or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Well no, wait a minute, that being said, man I folks,
which you probably I've actually not shared this. I did
share it with Sean this week the Soalsado Storm podcast
of our of our weekly offerings, yours and my visit Buddy.
They they it resonates the most, we get the most
downloads from the show behind the show.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
But let's get you away from the stupid politics.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Stupid politics. Yeah yeah, you know, saving the country so
stupid whatever whatever they have.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Seriously, but the people who listen to you are listening
to you all week long, or listening to other conservatives
well media, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
I mean that, that's the whole thing. That's that's why.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Look, you got to get away from it. I do
That's what I'm going to talk different stuff.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Why do you think you and I do this? Why
do you think we do this?

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Like last week, you got your jolly's off saying TV
Guide covers and seventies.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
I put it that way a whole I wouldn't. I
didn't get my jollies off of TV Guide. It was
just it was nostalgia. You you dude, you got to
get out more of you're thinking. If you're thinking that
was Jolly's because seriously, dude, it.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Was just nostalgia. And I'm you know, but that's that's
why I think this. You did share the dynamics with me,
and I'm so appreciative that people actually might listen to
what I have to say. I don't. I still am
baffled by that. I don't care about what I.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Say half the time, you and me both, I mean.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
But no, it's pretty neat man. Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah, but see, And again I think that's what and
not not that we're we've come close to making that
type of impact, But when you're talking about about the
industries to this day, I remember growing up in San
Diego and two of the biggest radio shows that I
remember bits from, I mean, and this was this is

(43:20):
thirty forty years ago. Uh, there was a program called
Jeff and Jerr. They got really big in San Diego.
But then in response to them, a competing radio station
hired somebody called the Dawn Patrol and it was a
guy they named Dave Rickards And there's Cookie Chainsaw Randolph

(43:42):
and Shelley Dunn. They ended up becoming DSc. They evolved
over the years. They dumped the Dawn patrol moniker. But
these guys became the most successful longest uh longest, I
guess serving Kings of morning talk radio. And it wasn't
Eve talking, right. They were on a music station, so
it wasn't even job. But but you know, they didn't

(44:02):
they didn't play much meats.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
They're probably playing four songs on an hour. It was
basically a talk show.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Basically a talk show. And you've never laughed so hard
in your life. But I to this day I remember
bits I still you know.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, my sister was stationed in San Diego and sent
me the set of Theirs once and it was great.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
You actually heard DSc.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah, really, yeah. I wish I could find the cassette
because they had some really great bits on there. And
that was as I was. I think I was in
Denver at the time at Cool one oh five, where
I was I was coloring to well, I was, I

(44:45):
was a production assistant. I mean, no, I'm just saying nothing.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
It just it shows you where the business is coming.
There actually was a station.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Called Cool one of it's still there by the day.
I played oldies. Now I think it's classic rock, which
is eighties and nineties. In the early two thousands, which
they consider classic rock. Oh my gosh, yeah, I know
it's crazy, but back in the day, in that day,
they had like a lot of stations. They had a

(45:13):
morning show and an afternoon show that was like a
morning show, so they had, you know, a lot of
people on there and then goofing around at bits and
the time that I was at the station, and then
I got to know the afternoon guys, and early early
early started writing or started pitching lines to them, you know,
back then. And then when I when I got here

(45:34):
to Dallas and got in with the great hal Jay,
started doing the same thing. And then that turned into
some of the funniest comedy that radio has ever heard,
I in my opinion, and I got to write it.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Well, you know, and that's see when I got here.
When I got here to Dallas, the Dallas Fort Worth area,
I found because he because it was it was. And
actually hal J tells this story about about our dear
friend Tyler Cox, who one of the greatest programmers ever
to be in the business. I know he'll he'll he'll

(46:08):
tell me that's not really what happened. But he has
credited folks with finding Rush Limbaugh of discovering Rush Limbaugh.
But Tyler Cox UH took this country music station where
how hal Jay was working at and hal j goes
in and begs him, don't don't turn us into talk radio.
But it but it ended up being one of the

(46:31):
greatest moves, not only UH for DFW Radio, but for
hal Jay himself and what he was able to parlay
and bring to the talk radio world. My children and
I think, I know I've told you this before, but
I told him this story and he he loves it.
When whenever I would have always hal Jay on in
the morning when I was taking the kids to school, right,

(46:51):
so my daughter started calling him the funny man, the
radio funny man. That's how they knew him. It's so
and I was.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
I was sitting across the desk from him, pitching funny
lines in his ear, which was just the you know,
the biggest thrill of my life and to hear. And
I'm not the ego type that would need credit. How
I would always try to give it, but I would
just say, dude, it sounds natural when you say it,
even though it's the line I just gave you. Please

(47:23):
just don't say anything about it. Just just go with
it because I don't care. You know, once the thought
leaves my head and it's out there in the ether,
it seems like it should be everybody's at that point,
So I don't really care that I was never Now
you know, here I am struggling to pay the bills
with my measly little part time machinist job because I

(47:47):
didn't make good life choices, but because I followed the
art instead of the money. But I was never one.
I was so satisfied with being behind the scenes. And
just like an end of the industry, radio has a
ton of behind the scenes people. And so it never

(48:08):
bothered me that I wasn't a talent. You know that,
because I knew to be a talent, I would probably
have to leave. I would probably have to move several times.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
But what did I say when when you see and
again it's a testament to our friend hal Jay that
he wanted to give you the credit. But you know
what did I say when when I first met you?
And you know we got folks. What you didn't know
about is that, you know, there was some pushback from
me incorporating Sean because he was doing he was working
with me on my radio show, and there was pushback
because it was I was told it was called the

(48:38):
Chris Alsado Show, and I said, yeah, but you know what,
it's not all me. And I guess knowing that, how
did that and knowing what my instinct was, that's kind
of what we what drove us, that's what made us
probably you know, uh well, and that's not typical, not
typical of the of our industry.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yes, but yeah, that's what separates the good guys from
the bag. Because I remember my very first radio station.
How I got into radio is I wanted to be
in radio since I was probably about eight or nine
years old when I saw Wolfman Jacket American graffiti Wow,
and thought, damn, that's that'd be fun. That's so cool, star.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Rolling Battlestrig Galacticato do you know that?

Speaker 2 (49:22):
But back in back in those days, you know, you
did have your guys that you would tune into every day.
They would drive you to work, like I said, and
I just thought that would be the coolest career. And
so so I walked into this radio station and said,
how do I get into this? And they said, well,

(49:44):
you can hang out if you want and just see
how it goes. And you know, ask questions and the
jocks won't care that they don't mind. And of course,
how it always happens, always happened, is two weeks later,
somebody doesn't show up for a shift. Dude, they say, hey,
you want to do it? And I said absolutely, And
you know, forty years later, here I am getting fired

(50:06):
from a top five market.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
But dude, that's how it happened with me too, you
know I showed up.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
No, it's how I mean, nearly every radio dude has
that exact.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Same story exactly, and you know, hey, what can I do?
I'll run sandwiches, I'll clean your toilets.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, you know that was basically I said, well, if
you want to organize the record library, I'm like, hell,
yeah I do. So, yeah, it was. It was pretty cool.
Where was I going to go with that story? Though?
But I just about about the good Yeah, the good
guys in radio, So the morning So eventually I got
on from six to midnight, I mean midnight to six

(50:43):
in the morning when the morning show guy took over,
and he had been in the bigger leagues and was
probably a raging alcoholic and he was a total dick.
And you know, so guys like that don't usually stay
at the top for very long, real long, unless they're

(51:04):
just incredible talents, which I don't think he was because
he was at a low wide FM station, Greally, Colorado. Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
King of his particular hill, you know.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah, and so he you know, had been in the
big time, had experienced that, but now he was where
he was, and he would get infuriated if I didn't
pull every single one of his cards for all his.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Show, folks a cart a cart is. And it's basically
an old eight track tape, yeah that h Yeah, it
was an eight track tape that they.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Had only one element, only one sole or one song.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
So yeah, and that's what the radio stations used to
run off of.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah, now it's all computerized, but so and it's just nice,
uh polite customary procedure to pull the first hour of
commercials and songs for the guy coming on after coming
on exactly just so he so, because usually you're you're
right up to the top of the hour, especially at
a music station, so you got about you know, three

(52:10):
or four minutes, unless you're playing American Pie or something,
You've got you know, three or four minutes, three or
four minutes to Can you.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Still remember the times on some of your the songs,
the Alcus and times.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Yeah, when you had to go, you had to go
take a dump, you know, you'd put on on something
like that bird. Yeah. But uh yes, if you if
you're hearing one of those seventeen minute long songs, songs
exactly somebody is in the bathroom stairway.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
To Heaven something like that.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
But uh so, so it was just always just polite
just to pull the first hour of songs.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
And it was a professional courtesy, folks.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
That's what.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
That's what when you would take over the next shift
for the guy, uh you would always pull his first
hour so we could come in and just concentrate on
his first break and have to worry about pulling all
of his songs. So this so, this douche bagger, I wanted.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
You to pull his higher out best show come in,
you know and just screaming me for not pulling all
four hours of a show. And it's just I just vowed.
I never wanted to be like that dude. Yeah, but
you know, having never been a major talent, but but
being to bring that word back again, talent A Jason,

(53:29):
I never minded you know.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
That's never been you. And that's that's the that's the biggest,
the biggest issue I've always had with you, because, folks,
some of the funniest bits that you have ever heard
on Dallas Fort Worth Radio have been created by Sean.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Some of the greatest stuff that you ever heard Sean created.
And that's that's the issue that I've had with you,
because you know, and that's why guys like Hal and
guys like me have always tried to give you the props.
And maybe it's also the reason why this is one
of the podcasts that gets the most high ratings on

(54:05):
on the Salado Storm podcast, is that you do have
something worthwhile if it's just if it's just a common
man perspective, but you look at it in a way
that is funnier than how and guys like me and
Hal recognize that.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Right every report card I ever ever got, every single one.
It's a great kid. But I love having him in school.
But if he'd only.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Apply by himself exactly.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
It's been a lifelong struggle, man, And I don't know
how to change that. I don't know because I think
this one are too lazy and uh and still not
confident I mean, the confidence is what it's all about.
And I don't have that. Well, I never have, and
it's I don't know how you how you change that

(54:54):
other than you know, a bunch of positive feedback where
you build up more and more confidence. But dude, and
it's not like I've never you know, my my parents
fully supported me and they always but uh.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
I mean, it wasn't like your parents didn't support you
and that they always talked you down. It was just
it's frankly, it's what it's what every self help guy
tells you. There's a there's a folks, I'm gonna I'm
gonna use a little unnecessary cursing here because it's the
name of the book. It's called Unfuck Yourself, and it's
a series of books out there by. It's a Scottish guy, Sean,

(55:32):
and this is what he talks about, Get the hell
out of your own way. Get out of your way
and you'll be surprised what you can do. And that's
and I again, I don't want to put you on
the couch and social souh and analyze you in a
in a psychological way. I'm just saying that, you know,
we've all got these hang ups and that's that's part
of the conquering of life. The biggest, the biggest struggle

(55:54):
you're gonna encounter in life, is you right? That's what
they say.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
And and how to how to change that behavior is difficult,
especially I think older, and especially like in my case
where I don't have a lot of people around me
giving me positive feedback.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Well, but life, you know, kicked you in the nuts,
seriously with this layoff, and look at what you've done.
It takes a hell of a man to redefine himself
and give yourself a little damn credit. And I mean,
I don't know how many times I've told you this
on the podcast, but give yourself some damn credit. You're
what sixty ish somewhere on there, I'm sixty yeah, and
so and to have to reinvent yourself at this time

(56:34):
of your life, go back to school, learn a new trade, dude. Seriously,
it is just it's amazing if you stop and think
about it. And I wanted folks to hear because I've
been threatening to play this folks. This isn't a planned bit.
This is something that happens when you have a bunch
of guys and maybe if you're lucky enough to have

(56:57):
Carlo Marion as part of your your news reading team.
It could also be a gal too. When you have
a bunch of people that click and and our talented people,
a mistake can turn into comedy goal. Listen to this.

Speaker 9 (57:11):
No, it is snacking bacon, snacking bacon. Yes, I used
to date a girl named Dolores.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Snack and bacon.

Speaker 7 (57:20):
Right.

Speaker 11 (57:21):
Yeah, they have gard is selling snacking bacon. It is
eight half strip served in a sleeve. It's got sweet
black pepper seasoning.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (57:33):
And you can take it on the go.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (57:36):
It's also bacon that's becoming a thing now. Yes, big
thick bacon.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Yes, okay.

Speaker 11 (57:42):
It's also featured on their sweet black pepper, black pepper
bacon breakfast sandwich.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (57:49):
Dunc And made other announcements Wednesdays, including Irish Creek flavord
coffee you're not going out, I know, and then the
flavor also uh uh. It can be added the hot,
iced and frozen coffees.

Speaker 9 (58:04):
Trouble with that one is you can't highlight it and.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Play no stop just stupid.

Speaker 9 (58:08):
You can't even go there.

Speaker 11 (58:09):
So it is snacking bacon available at restaurants starting today.

Speaker 9 (58:13):
But I want so many emails on your slip up
there can we morning day? No, I'm going to I'm
bringing that out now for now. You never do that,
would never do this to you, Sean?

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Was that seven thirty nine, twenty or thirty?

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Stop?

Speaker 9 (58:31):
I'm not gonna give up on this one. You might
as well stop reading this hammer because that doesn't matter anymore.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
It doesn't matter, I know, get.

Speaker 9 (58:37):
A hammer away.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Stop. I'm not going to go ahead.

Speaker 11 (58:42):
Throw back Thursdays coming up. Yeah, let's have a laugh
with that, okay, it will be as good as the
money cooking traffic dude, mony, how are you? By twenty
West Fountain at FF four twenty nine?

Speaker 1 (58:58):
From traffic to sports to the what Sean was doing?
The technical operations and the board op to the the
Great Brian Estridge, by the way, the Great Byron Estridge.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Yes, Brian as his name is. What did I say, Byron?

Speaker 1 (59:16):
I said Byron Brian Estridge. See there you go. I
can't make that into something funny. Brian Estridge. Yes, by
the way, who does the voice of the horn frogs, folks.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
The words of the horn frogs? And also quite the
entrepreneur he is h owns almost every college bowl game
for radio.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Does he really?

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Yeah, he really does. That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
That's pretty freaking cool.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
You know, so, folks, when you when you can take
a screw up like that and uh and turn it
into comedy gold, That's what when Shawn and I talk
about talent, when when Seawan and I talked about but
see notice it was everybody and Seawan was referenced in there,
because that's just when when you get that type of

(01:00:00):
of chemistry, it's something that you that you don't let
go number one, if you know what you're doing. Number two,
it's rare. It's rare in any business.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
And to start off, you asked you if I would
go back, if I could go back under those circumstances.
Hell yeah, under that, under that. But how it became
how it is now, how it was when I left,
Oh my god, dude. And I so empathize with people

(01:00:34):
now who say they hate their jobs because I spent
a whole career looking forward to going to work every day,
loving it, and then the last two years happened, and
I can really sympathize and empathize with people who have

(01:00:54):
those jobs worth it, just can't you know, I will
I wish they I wish you could just shake them
and say, you know it, just tried something, because it'll
it'll probably work out, but then it may not and
you may lose your house, you know. So I don't know.
It's it's always really scary, but dang, if you're not happy,

(01:01:17):
just try to get there. That's all I would have
to say.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
I talked to the wife and said, you know about
you know, because throughout our lives, you know, there's always
been decisions to make, and she goes, you know, frankly,
do you know how rare what you do is? I mean,
because most of my career I have looked forward to
going into work every day, and you know, all the

(01:01:42):
what did you call it, all the silly political stuff,
all the stupid political stuff that you know, saving the
fing country, you know, that stupid stuff like that. But
it was something that I was driven to do and
it didn't seem like work. When when it's a mission
doesn't seem like work, you know, and uh, when when

(01:02:02):
you strike gold like this folks, and you're and you
don't work a day in your life, I mean, glom
onto it as long as you can and treasure it
because it could like Sean's testifying right now, could be
could be gone like that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
And if if you're not there trying to get there,
trying to find something that makes you happy, or you know,
if you have some kind of interest, like go to
your local community college and just learned something. Yeah, you know,
if nothing else, just to distract yourself from that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
And that was the part of the conversation where Sean
just disappeared, folks, I mean, he just went away. And
so in the he's back, Now, what the hell happened?
As I say, where did you go?

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
As the old Jack Barwood said, Okay, So, uh, I
was just telling people, you know, go find something to do. Yeah,
go on to hobby, go go to community college, learn something.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Well, that's what I'm doing right now, and I'm learning
the I'm learning to do computer aided drafting.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
And uh, when we come back after the new year,
we are starting a new uh, a new course and
it requires new software. And so while we've been doing
the podcast here, I've been downloading the Autodesk Inventor software
that finally.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
It required a restart, didn't you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
No, it didn't require restart. It finally downloaded. So I
was just shutting everything down, you know down, just shut
down the whole computer instead of just shutting down the
different programs. So yeah, this whole computer stuff. I'm still
getting used to it. Idiot. I'm so sorry about that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
No worries. You know, it was a It was a
good time for a point of the arture anyway, because
there was something happened this last week. And again, I
don't want to get into so much of the politics
of it. It's the human emotion that I felt, and
I think a lot of people felt, the President felt
from what happened. Now, you know how I feel about

(01:04:18):
about what the leftists have done to this country the
last twenty thirty years. Hell, we've just been talking about,
I believe, some of the outflow of leftists and left
wingers and how they've impacted our industry, in particular the
company that you and I used to work for. But
what happened in Indiana, I don't know if you've heard

(01:04:40):
about this. There is a move around the country by
spearheaded by President Trump because he's the one with the backbone,
to redistrict in states where the Republicans have control, to
mirror states like Massachusetts and Vermont and other where Republicans.

(01:05:01):
Even though the Republican voting base is forty percent plus
in those states, they have zero representatives in Congress. Right,
that's because of jerrymandering. Nobody's suggesting it's illegal, nobody's suggesting
it's not what you're supposed to do. But while the
Democrats have been busy doing that, the Republicans are busy
sitting on their asses and going, well, that's not fair.

(01:05:23):
We've got morality, we don't care. So but Trump has said, look,
you're gonna get your butts headed to you if you
don't start dishing out what you've been taking. Right, So,
the big beautiful maps in Texas, we've got plus five
here some other states adding our legislature.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
I'm surprised it went through as well, just like I'm
surprised it didn't happen, just like Indiana did.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Well, it almost didn't. But if it wasn't for Governor
Abbott and for the president, and for President Trump's strong
voting base in Texas, it probably wouldn't have happened. But
Indiana twenty one of their senators folks air quotes. Republicans
killed the redistricting map, which would have added two more
Republicans in crucially needed seats inside of Indiana, again handing

(01:06:08):
Democrats the medicine they've been dishing out. There are six states,
if you ask Rocks, six states with forty percent plus Republicans,
zero Republicans and the legislatures. So what what? What The
emotion I was feeling was one hundred percent betrayal. And
it is. It's one thing to say, well, you know,

(01:06:33):
let's have comedy see you know, not comedy comittee, meaning
let's have a nice relationship with Democrats. It's quite another
to after everything the Democrats have unloaded, from the law
fair to Obamacare, to everything that they've done, Arctic frost,
everything I've been telling you about on that uh, the crossfire, hurricane,

(01:06:55):
all of the illegality being foisted politically from the Democrats
on the Republicans. For Republicans to sit there and say,
you know what, yeah, I know the Democrats have really
screwed up everything, Open the borders, law fair, the terrible economy,
but we still think they deserve the right to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
To you, pet that it's not that they think they
deserve the right, it's that they hate Trump that much
and like they or not, Trump's the leader of the
party right now, and if you don't like him, you
probably ought to get out of the party, which is
fine with me. Leave because hopefully every one of those
twenty one bastards are going to be primaried anyway, primaried

(01:07:34):
right out of their seats, and that'll teach them, let's hope.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
But how many times how many times have you and
I had this conversation about you know, you you expect
the Republican Party to be a yeah, an opposition party, right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
I've said it multiple times on the show that one,
if you reach across the aisle to the left, if
you're a Republican reaching across the aisle, you should have
your hand lopped off like an Iranian pickpocket. And the
other thing I've I've always maintained is that the Republican
Party ought to start acting like Democrats because Democrats walk

(01:08:15):
in lockstep. Democrats are tenacious, they will hold nothing back.
This Party of the high Road. Don't like it. That's
that's not the way politics is anymore, probably the way
politics has.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Ever been, never been, never been.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Yeah, So you better get on board and you better
start playing by their rules because even though they're not
in the majority, we can't decide on a good set
of rules. So that's that's why we got to do
what they've been doing for the last you know, how
however long.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
You know, if this hurt just you know, Republican lawmakers
and ruined Republican lawmakers, I don't think I'd give a
rats ass. But you see, the problem is is when
these Republicans cave, they hurt us. Oh yeah, right, That's
that's why I care if if, if, if the Democrats

(01:09:11):
weren't enabled and empowered to dishout harm to us, I
wouldn't give a damn. I I wouldn't care if if
John Corner or Mitch McConnell or any one of these
these those twenty one rhinos in Indiana, I wouldn't give
a damn what happened to them. But it's the fact
that that they saw fit, and this is what gives
me fits they saw fit to say, you know what,

(01:09:33):
I think that the Democrats deserve the And again, whether
whatever their motivation was out of hatred of Trump, whatever
their motivation, is the fact that we're going to be
the ones to pay the price for it, not them. Yep,
that's what ticks me.

Speaker 8 (01:09:48):
Am.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
I keeping you up and that that's that's what ticks
me off the most. And I think and that this
isn't this isn't just about the policies or the politics.
For me, this is trusting somebody to have a certain
set of values, because that's what you ran on. You
ran on a certain set of values and you thought,
you know what, screw it, screw it. And there's a

(01:10:09):
level of betrayal in there that I can't even put
into words to you, and how much it just chaps
my hide. And like you said, Iranian pickpocket, they all
ought to be out of jobs. They they ought to
be condemned. I just can't abide by by people who
would make promises to our faces. We elect them, and

(01:10:32):
then the first chance they get, the dagger comes out
right in our backs. I just can't. I can't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
And you, well, I mean, yeah, you're you're probably gonna
have to do it unless you just totally disassociated because
that's the way our side does it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Well that's not my side. I haven't been a Republican
in many moods, right, but you know what I mean, Yeah,
Well that's the way they do it. And that's and see,
and this is the problem, I think, and I mean
this is the God's honest truth. On social media, I
have been seeing, I mean, with Trump in office, people
are recognizing that, oh my gosh, we just can't leave

(01:11:13):
it up to Trump and oh Trump's got this. No,
you've got to and you've got to do some work
out there to help him. And I have been seeing
mentions of civil war. And it's not going to be
Republicans versus Democrats, not going to be conservatives versus left wingers. Man.
What I'm seeing is people recognizing the corruption of these

(01:11:34):
people in office. It's going to be we the people
versus these charlatans, and it's not going to know any
sectional boundaries or any partisanship. And you know what, I'd,
as I said in the in the intro bringing you
on shown, I'd prefer to avoid all that. I really would.
But it's like when you give the people no choice, saying, hey,
no matter how you vote, you're ft either way. I'm sorry, man,

(01:11:58):
And that that's when it gets real, that someoney gets
real for people, and that they're playing with us man.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Yeah, And you know there's there's a faction out there
that would sacrifice the mid terms to hurt Trump because
they think eventually that the that the Bush Pence Romney's
of the world will get back in power.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
To what end?

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Yeah, I don't know what they're thinking, man, because I
don't think like that, So I have no idea what that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
But I'm just saying, Okay, so Romney gets back in
power or his ILK or John.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Corney gets powered specifically, but yeah, their.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
ILK gets in power, Corny and McConnell, Romney, the moderate squishes. Okay,
to what end? What? What? What do you want to
have happened? Oh? Yes, so we can cave into the
Democrats unopposed. Right, That's that's ultimately what they're after, as
far as I can tell.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
So, yeah, you just have to go back in your
particular congress person and when you when they were fighting
for your vote, and you listen to how they defended Trump,
how maga they were, and now listen to what they're saying,
and that's going to show their true colors and you
should vote accordingly because the vast manority worthless.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Yeah, And you know, I don't listen to what they're saying, folks,
watch what they're doing, because the same they'll have maga
maga and America first coming out of their mouths as
there as again stabbing the dagger into your back and
enabling Democrats. And I'm sean, I'm with you. Every one
of those Indiana Republicans in that Senate should should be

(01:13:47):
primary lose their jobs.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
I find it unconscionable after the scope of what Democrats
have done to us, and it's been significant, it's and
it's it's created a great deal of harm for measurele
harm for our people. I find it unconscionable that you
want to keep those shrubs in power. M just amazing
to me. Well, buddy, hey, we are marching toward our

(01:14:12):
date with the fat Man. So I am hoping that
you continue to get into the Christmas spirit as a
days as the days roll on.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
And yeah, so week from tomorrow, be headed up to
Washington State. You've never been up there, so it'll be
pretty neat.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
You're gonna love it up there, as long as you
don't stay too long. You don't see you don't see
the don't see the sun very much up there. There's
that part of the country. There's a lot of depression
up there, only because it's a lot of rain, you know,
not to mention it's it's popular with a bunch of
left wing loons, I mean family. But beautiful country, beautiful country.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Yeah, so I'm looking forward to it just to be nice,
have fun, my man. Hi, the peace see.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
It that right there is going to put a wrap
on this Ilseado Storm podcast till we visit. But again,
my friends, remember this, A society's worth isn't measured by
how much powers stolen by government. A society's worth is
measured by how much power is reserved for you and me,
We the people, keep fighting for freedom out there, my friends,
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